Why Brexit Failed the UK

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  • @2and20
    @2and20  10 месяцев назад +28

    Tell us: Do you think Brexit was a good idea?
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    • @mori1bund
      @mori1bund 10 месяцев назад +28

      What really shocks me is that there are still 33% who think Brexit was a good idea... 🤣

    • @jcvastgoed1490
      @jcvastgoed1490 9 месяцев назад +9

      It was a great idea for the EU. If they didn’t leave themselves , we would have kicked them out eventually. Bad trading partner to have .

    • @mori1bund
      @mori1bund 9 месяцев назад +3

      @petertimmermans8425 This! 👍😁

    • @fridolinoberboersch9425
      @fridolinoberboersch9425 9 месяцев назад

      Yes of course

    • @fridolinoberboersch9425
      @fridolinoberboersch9425 9 месяцев назад

      @petertimmermans8425 Sou der simply wiring EU without UK is dominated from eastern countries which only are members because of the money they get

  • @bertoverweel6588
    @bertoverweel6588 10 месяцев назад +872

    Brexit was a great idea, no other country in the EU wants to leave, and we don't miss the English exeptionalism.

    • @AndriyValdensius-wi8gw
      @AndriyValdensius-wi8gw 10 месяцев назад +216

      Brexit has been a great success. Lots of previously British based business have moved to the EU.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +84

      Haha I guess if you look at it from the EUs perspective…
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    • @zedtrek
      @zedtrek 10 месяцев назад

      Brexit was a disaster for all Europe, not only the UK. The exceptionalism was bad, that's true and now will make the possibility on the UK rejoining an impossible political battle.

    • @chrisaris8756
      @chrisaris8756 10 месяцев назад +22

      It’s that European arrogance that triggered Brexit.

    • @bertoverweel6588
      @bertoverweel6588 10 месяцев назад +163

      @@chrisaris8756 Nope, the lies of Farage, Mogg, Johnson.

  • @helenhiggs6171
    @helenhiggs6171 9 месяцев назад +444

    52% of UK citizens did NOT vote leave. 52% of those who voted did; 36% of the electorate, 27% of the country. There should have been a super majority for such a constitutional change

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +40

      Ya I’m aware of this, but the broader point is that support has declined.
      I agree with you. Such a slim margin probably isn’t enough to decide such a major change. Plus 1 day of voting isn’t reasonable either.
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    • @adamlea6339
      @adamlea6339 9 месяцев назад +54

      Those who didn't vote are irrelevant, which is why it is important to use your right to vote.

    • @martijnkeisers5900
      @martijnkeisers5900 9 месяцев назад +4

      Exactly.

    • @SabreSix1980
      @SabreSix1980 9 месяцев назад

      If it had been legally binding it would have needed more stringent conditions, but then that was part of the con that was Brexit. They knew they would never get that many people to vote leave, so they made the referendum non-binding, then after the vote acted as if it had been.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +12

      @@adamlea6339 this!

  • @PascalGienger
    @PascalGienger 9 месяцев назад +98

    Brexit was a huge success! - For Dublin, Paris, Amsterdam and Frankfurt., the ferry port of Cork (ferries to France - all inside the EU), the city and port of Rosslare (also ferries to France), Roscott and Cherbourg in France...

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +4

      Haha wait a minute…those aren’t in the UK!
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  • @Der_Dolmetscher
    @Der_Dolmetscher 9 месяцев назад +267

    I remember Farage almost screaming: „We’re going to be the new Singapore on Thames!“ and I remember the red bus with the UKIP ad („We send £350.000.000,- to Brussels every week. Why not finance our NHS with it instead? Vote leave!“)
    I‘ve been watching this circus from my Swiss home with my Welsh husband, thinking to myself how ugly this operation is going to end. And I was sad, I must admit. My in-laws still live in Wales and I’ve been to the UK many times. (Among the five universities I studied at, one is in West Yorkshire, where I lived for two years.) I‘m one of the rare German Anglophiles, who grew up with British sitcoms and British literature. While most of my friends in high school wanted to see Florida and California, I was set on visiting the Scottish Highlands. I‘ve always felt deeply connected to the British culture, even though no one in my family can claim British roots.
    My husband voted to remain, but it wasn’t meant to be. This summer, he’ll get his Swiss passport, so he can return his UK one, and close this chapter once and for all. We‘ll still be visiting the beautiful island. But only as tourists.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +45

      It is an absolute shame. This is the byproduct of a nation losing sight of the really issues and “finding” a scapegoat to solve their problems. Now it is clear that the problem is still here but the EU isn’t.
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    • @Maykilcan
      @Maykilcan 9 месяцев назад

      UK did it to control borders and prevent non-white immigration. They failed.

    • @Ramy-ql3tr
      @Ramy-ql3tr 9 месяцев назад +3

      Farage is prob comparable to Singapore’s grassroot-level, not their leaders.

    • @andrewjones-productions
      @andrewjones-productions 9 месяцев назад +8

      Your husband is going to find that he simply cannot return his UK passport. It will be returned to him by the UK authorities as to renounce one's citizenship of the UK, you must go to court to do so. Of course, he needn't renew his passport or use it, but it is to my mind, one more example of a self-inflated opinion the English led UK has of itself. As a Welshman in Japan, I have not applied for Japanese citizenship as I am hoping that one day in my lifetime, I will be able to travel on a Welsh passport. The disUnited Kingdump is finished.

    • @sazaki1999
      @sazaki1999 9 месяцев назад +9

      If he truly knows anything about Singapore, he would have NEVER championed for leaving one of the best international markets in the world.
      We survived by trading with every country that we could. Without the international markets, Singapore will never survive.

  • @liosscip
    @liosscip 10 месяцев назад +170

    Well.. the upside is: we lost this painful member of the eu, which always wanted to get extra rules granted

    • @colinsmith1288
      @colinsmith1288 10 месяцев назад +2

      But the eu is now becoming like a prison not to dissimilar from the USSR. Many countries are following this root including the Uk with ETA in 2025 for eu citizens. The world is getting smaller not bigger.

    • @liosscip
      @liosscip 10 месяцев назад +33

      @@colinsmith1288 sad you feel this way, but that's not a view everyone shares

    • @perjensen3047
      @perjensen3047 10 месяцев назад +33

      @@colinsmith1288 , it is? As an EU citizen I must admit I have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. Prison? What are you on about?

    • @colinsmith1288
      @colinsmith1288 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@perjensen3047 All the eu is becoming is a new iron curtain. Except many eu countries are seeing massive population declines. Central control of vassal states. This exactly what Putin wanted. The beneficiaries of this arrangemant are Amerca,India and Russia. The baltic states are almost now empty of any sizeable population other than Poland. The eu is being played like a chess game with the even bigger players of the world. We in the Uk can see this because we have been played and lost already. Putin is a very smart man.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +27

      EU is far from a USSR style prison. Anyone who has lived in a autocratic closed off regime could tel you that!
      However, the EU does have many flaws. For example, their energy policy is something folks will study for decades as the silliest energy policy known to mankind!

  • @teddyboysdontknit810
    @teddyboysdontknit810 10 месяцев назад +238

    Introducing trade problems with our nearest neighbours was never a good idea.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +23

      Ya it’s quite strange that folks didn’t see this coming. Propaganda is powerful I guess!

    • @georgesdelatour
      @georgesdelatour 9 месяцев назад +2

      How many free trade agreements have an executive, legislature, judiciary, currency and central bank, and are talking about acquiring an army?

    • @connormclernon26
      @connormclernon26 9 месяцев назад +9

      @@2and20nostalgia, thinking the UK is still an Empire, when it’s not anymore.

    • @karlbassett8485
      @karlbassett8485 7 месяцев назад +2

      And yet the UK will grow faster than France and Germany this year and is forecast by the IMF to grow faster than France, Germany, Japan and Italy next year, and only slightly behind the US ( 1.6% for the UK, 1.9% for the US )

    • @karlbassett8485
      @karlbassett8485 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@georgesdelatour This. So many people still think of the EU as little more than a free trade, free movement deal. That was how it was sold to us Brits in the seventies when we joined.
      But the aim of the EU was always to become a United States Of Europe. It is a political union. Strangely independence is always seen as a great thing for Ireland, Scotland etc but when the UK wants it suddenly it's "stupid", "racist", "xenophobic" etc.

  • @greenfrog8871
    @greenfrog8871 9 месяцев назад +281

    shouldn't the tag line be : "Brexit, self inflicted harm"

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +8

      If I was a good writer, then yes! Haha
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    • @drastberry1454
      @drastberry1454 9 месяцев назад

      Harm.. More like suicide..

  • @immortalsofar5314
    @immortalsofar5314 9 месяцев назад +128

    I had the freedom to work in 27 different countries and now I'm trapped in the backwater where I was born. Seems to me, I've lost a lot of sovereignty and the people who tell me what to do today are the same people that told me what to do yesterday.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +7

      Sorry to hear. Have talked to a lot of folks in similar situations and can only imagine how it feels

    • @harveygould6543
      @harveygould6543 9 месяцев назад +1

      It would of worked but us so called British people didn't work together, like are government.

    • @ericnicholls3955
      @ericnicholls3955 7 месяцев назад

      CANZUK FTW!

    • @karlbassett8485
      @karlbassett8485 7 месяцев назад +1

      That "freedom" came at a high cost in democracy to everyone else. You essentially want everyone else in the country to accept less democracy just so you can move a bit easier.

    • @MbisonBalrog
      @MbisonBalrog 6 месяцев назад

      How you work all those countries without stealing job from someone else in that country? You can still vacay

  • @Alex-pr6zv
    @Alex-pr6zv 9 месяцев назад +74

    As a German resident, I used to buy regularly from the UK - books, music, single malt releases, food, miscellaneous items, but have done so very rarely since, as it makes no sense at all. For example, a couple of weeks ago I bought something online in the UK for 20 GBP. By the time the item arrived, two weeks had elapsed and Deutsche Post wanted another 11 EUR before handing it over - 5 EUR customs/import duties and a 6 EUR flat rate fee for the paying of duty upfront. This is just for a small item with a relatively low nominal value, so as you can imagine big ticket items are prohibitive. Luckily, we have Ireland in the EU, and you can source a lot of products locally, e.g. cheese.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +14

      This is so important. Leaving the EU has destroyed many British businesses as their largest customers were EU nations. Why buy from the UK when it’s a huge in the behind now!

    • @odp74
      @odp74 9 месяцев назад +9

      As a French i had exactly the same bad experience. I used to purchase online from great cloths companies in uk and last time i had to pay an additional 30€ to the delivery man for an order of 60€ ! I must say it was the very last time i made an order from them...

    • @HieronymousCheese
      @HieronymousCheese 9 месяцев назад +6

      I have to concur. I used to buy LOADS of stuff from Britain, from all those small businesses on Ebay who could pop their goods into an envelope/box and ship it to me (in the EU) in a few days. No muss, no fuss. That has now completely stopped, and I hear the same story from numerous people around me. What an act of self-harm!! Utterly stupid.

    • @GiveMeAnOKUsername
      @GiveMeAnOKUsername 8 месяцев назад +1

      Which regime is demanding these extra fees?

    • @jeffstranks1055
      @jeffstranks1055 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@GiveMeAnOKUsername The EU of course. This is what they do and have always done with products coming into the EU from outside it, i.e. from 3rd countries. The UK, god help us, voted to become a 3rd country by leaving the EU, so those fees now apply to the UK as well as to the USA, Brazil, Australia, New Zealand ... get my drift? Excellent example of shooting yourself in the foot.

  • @paologat
    @paologat 10 месяцев назад +101

    I would have voted Leave if I had been given the opportunity. Unfortunately, as a EU citizen, I couldn’t vote in UK, and the EU doesn’t have a mechanism to expel member states under any circumstances.
    UK never shared - and too many in UK actively oppose - the EU’s political goals. UK was mostly interested in economic benefits for itself, and had extorted huge privileges from the other members.
    Please don’t come back until you are willing to accept the rules of the club in full.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +10

      I didn’t appreciate how much resentment the EU had towards the UK. Very interesting to hear EU member comments!
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    • @LudwigVaanArthans
      @LudwigVaanArthans 10 месяцев назад +18

      ​@@2and20de Gaulle was right about the UK, so it's good it left on its own
      it can go back to being the sick man of Europe and be bailed out by the IMF a second time once it defaults on its debt

    • @paologat
      @paologat 10 месяцев назад +22

      @@2and20 no resentment against UK as a country. UK doesn't have a duty to share the EU's values and political goals (which in my opinion it never did). However, UK shouldn't have been allowed to join the EU (and it shouldn't be allowed to join again) without explicit and unreserved commitment to those goals.
      Much of the responsibility for the current situation lies with the EEC politicians that allowed UK to join in the 1970s without demanding clarity on what UK was signing up to. And with those that acquiesced to Thatcher's demands for privileges, instead of showing her the door.

    • @franswiggers601
      @franswiggers601 9 месяцев назад

      Stop blaming others for your own stupidities ​@@paologat

    • @thedangerzone9399
      @thedangerzone9399 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@2and20UK had nothing of value to offer. Only took benefits like a professional vagrant. 😂 I'm enjoying the shitshow.

  • @tomtedude
    @tomtedude 10 месяцев назад +101

    The Brits had it all when they where part part of the EU ... Now they understand, the glory days of the empire are gone, how does it feel to be a non important global player, been all alone ?
    Tiny country, no important resources, nothing specially to offer ... wake up call - reality is tuff, good luck Brits!

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +5

      I’m assuming you’re not a fan of the UK? This whole situation is fascinating because it’s kind of a big “told you so”…
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    • @franswiggers601
      @franswiggers601 9 месяцев назад

      Britain is irrelevant and brings nothing to the table but two aircraft carriers with not enough planes.

    • @Maykilcan
      @Maykilcan 9 месяцев назад +11

      @@2and20noone in the world is fan of UK.

    • @romansmusic1722
      @romansmusic1722 9 месяцев назад +10

      @@2and20As a bit of an anglophile from Northern Europe myself who spent 7 years in the UK up to 2020, I personally don't necessarily dislike the UK itself but its inflated 'being British' arrogance and outdated imperial posturing. I witnessed firsthand quite a few Brits over the age of 40 (and their kids) blame immigrants and the EU for issues like the country's waning businesses and industries, poor immigration control and chant about 'independence from the EU'. Granted, this lot consumed (and still do) traditional news media outlets like the BBC and Daily Mail, who in turn were either compromised from within or actively printed scandalous stuff to deliberately play on the public's fears and prejudices. Even if you take away the media misinformation, the mindset of 'Britain ruling the waves' was still there because the most recent imperial move which brought a sense of British pride was the Falklands War of 1982, when the UK was already an EU member. The Brits were fed this toxic imperial mindset for too long and never understood how well they had it as an EU member compared to other member countries. The empire died a slow and invisible death, which has taken only until now for them to notice. And I left the UK in 2020 disappointed.

    • @nooshoff
      @nooshoff 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@romansmusic1722agreed, it will be a hard lesson for a lot of people in the UK. But I suspect the best lessons are the hardest learnt

  • @Toddel1234567
    @Toddel1234567 9 месяцев назад +49

    Hello and greetings from Germany. There will be no such thing as the UK being able to re-enter the EU quickly and everything will be fine. I think if it is negotiated, it can take at least 8-10 years. And then the question arises, do we as the EU, after the experience with the UK, want to do this at all. I think there are strong reservations about that. The process is complete and now good luck and goodbye GB. The problems that exist, you have to go through on your own.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +7

      Ya I think rejoining won’t happen.
      However, there are some cracks forming in the EU as populism increases. Will be fascinating to see how it all plays out.
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    • @michaelrowsell1160
      @michaelrowsell1160 9 месяцев назад

      Trump will cause the reunification of all of Europe including Britain and Ukraine .

    • @jeffreyday4004
      @jeffreyday4004 9 месяцев назад

      auf wiedersen Toddel, the EU would love UK back, nothing to do with German or other EU citizens - you don't get it do you,

    • @mildlydispleased3221
      @mildlydispleased3221 8 месяцев назад +2

      Pretty much nobody under 40 supports Brexit, the old people who voted for this and the desire to rejoin will be impossible to ignore.

  • @Ethilirion
    @Ethilirion 9 месяцев назад +62

    "UK's sworn enemy France" for real ? Can we keep out of the "enemies" talk, since for once in 1000 years France and the UK weren't at each other's throat ? That's gotta be the saddest part of Brexit in my opinion. That the Brits would figure "fuck everyone and let's go at it alone" when everyone strived as a bloc. As a Union. The UK stepped on a dream, on the greatest alliance the european continent as known in 2000 years. That's what pisses me off the most. People only thinking about their short, little lives, not seeing 20 centuries of history telling us that we're better as friends than not.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +10

      The story is a sad one. The hatred Brit’s have for other European nations is not because they are different but rather because they are similar (the classic mimetic rivalry).
      At the end of the day, the UK was going through tough times and decided to scapegoat the EU. But now they are learning (albeit slowly) that it was never because of the EU. Sometimes it’s best to look inward and collaborate to resolve issues, rather than go nuclear.
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    • @tygattyche2545
      @tygattyche2545 9 месяцев назад +14

      Well, as a german i am happy not being the sworn enemy or most hated villain just for once...

    • @Ethilirion
      @Ethilirion 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@tygattyche2545 Germany and France have been allied ever since the end of WW2, what do you mean for once ...

    • @saddoncarrs6963
      @saddoncarrs6963 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@2and20 Stop saying "Britain" and "The UK" when you mean "England".

    • @HieronymousCheese
      @HieronymousCheese 9 месяцев назад +4

      I absolutely agree. France is no more a "sworn enemy" than any other nation. We are siblings, closely related by blood, who might have the occasional argument, but are still FAMILY. Viewing other EU countries as "enemies" is exactly the mentality that led to Brexit happening, and it not until the British learn to play nicely with others (instead of being the sulking child) that Britain will prosper again.

  • @stefans.6858
    @stefans.6858 10 месяцев назад +68

    Since over 30 years I am visiting London after beeing an Imperial College Student. I have noticed that by now EU migrants have been replaced by Indians or Pakistanies in Hotels or Restaurants. So is this now any better?

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +8

      It’s the reality and I mention it at the end of the video. The UK economy is not robust and has decaying productivity which requires immigration to offset GDP declines.
      Brexit has been an all around disaster
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    • @malahammer
      @malahammer 9 месяцев назад +6

      The joys of their old "empire".

    • @Purple_flower09
      @Purple_flower09 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@2and20 there has been no 'GDP declines'. Where do you find this rubbish?

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +9

      @@Purple_flower09 literally the Office for Budget Responsibility..

    • @Rage_Harder_Then_Relax
      @Rage_Harder_Then_Relax 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@Purple_flower09 I see you didn't counter the second point by @2and20 of the "Office for Budget Responsibility? Is that because you couldn't win the argument and decided to run away? LOL

  • @arianbyw3819
    @arianbyw3819 9 месяцев назад +68

    Brexit was never meant to benefit the public, but they fell for it. It was about making the rich richer.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +8

      I would argue that the reality is that the rich are split. I work in high finance, and most folks I knew on the street were very opposed to brexit. Brexit presented a potential threat to the dominance of London and also created a lot of financial uncertainty. This is why the markets did not price Brexit, very few thought it would actually happen.
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    • @jewulo
      @jewulo 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@2and20 You are talking about the wrong rich. The commenter meant the landed-gentry - the lords and ladies of the manors.

    • @SASMADBRUV7
      @SASMADBRUV7 7 месяцев назад

      Mate that's not true. The reason brexit happened wasn't to make the rich richer, it was just a way to reduce immigration. No one who voted cared about trade deals, it was just to get less people to come in. And it's failed horrifically

    • @MbisonBalrog
      @MbisonBalrog 6 месяцев назад

      But the little guy has to compete with other Euros during EU.

  • @angryconsultant
    @angryconsultant 10 месяцев назад +168

    Brexit was the worst thing to happen to Britain 😢

    • @uweinhamburg
      @uweinhamburg 10 месяцев назад +1

      After colonialism, which made Brits conceited and lazy. The results can be seen centuries later, the same will go for Brexit!

    • @clarissagafoor5222
      @clarissagafoor5222 10 месяцев назад +16

      an absolute disaster!

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +4

      It was definitely not a positive, given the economic changes and detriments to Britain’s global standing

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +30

      Should I make a video about British colonialism? It’s crazy how much they stole from the rest of the world

    • @marksimons8861
      @marksimons8861 10 месяцев назад +1

      We could have been invaded by Russia.

  • @AtheistNationalist
    @AtheistNationalist 9 месяцев назад +42

    "We are going cut off free trade with the largest trade union of the World, which also happens to include some of the most financially affluent countries in the entire world. What could possible go wrong?"

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +1

      famous last words!
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  • @giancarlopellizzari1751
    @giancarlopellizzari1751 9 месяцев назад +237

    It was all about racism. Now there is a price to be paid.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +36

      Ya exactly. Scapegoating the wrong thing to solve all of their issues. Now there’s more problems than ever, but no EU. Hmm what a surprise!
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    • @rogerk6180
      @rogerk6180 9 месяцев назад +13

      Immigration has 4 folded last year lol. All from outside of europe.
      All while migration from eastern europe to western europe has reached all time lows as the wage gap has been shrinking every year.
      The migration issue was one that was solving itself rather quickly over time. Probably why there was such a rush to get things done..

    • @TomTom-vi6vp
      @TomTom-vi6vp 9 месяцев назад +2

      lol don’t be daft. Can you even name your 5 EU presidents 😂😂

    • @Purple_flower09
      @Purple_flower09 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@2and20 the UK is less racist than most EU countries. That was the result of a large piece of research funded by the EU and involved asking people of colour about their experiences. You could always look it up, but being in your own way bigoted, you won't. Who needs research when you already made up your mind?

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +8

      @@Purple_flower09 this I actually agree with. I think the UK is less homogenous than most EU countries and is on average less racist

  • @papagairood
    @papagairood 9 месяцев назад +20

    The problem with the UK is they wanted “the cake and eat it too”.
    They wanted all the benefits of the EU membership but doesn’t want to take any responsibility.
    They managed to opt out from the Schengen agreement to halt free movement from 3rd national foreigners moving within the block.
    They had seperated visa system.
    They wanted to keep the pound as their currency. The pound stays.
    But they don’t want immigration.
    Take a look EFTA countries, like Switzerland, it is not part of the EU, but part of the Schengen agreement, and Swiss nationals are enjoying the same benefits as EU nationals, without being in the EU.
    The UK had a chance to become another EFTA member but the only downside was “immigration narratives” they were pushing it to the public.
    Shame it happened, it was very short sighted and fueled by pettiness.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      Ya it’s very interesting. It’s a failure of leadership and vision in my opinion. Very sad

    • @ocanica3184
      @ocanica3184 9 месяцев назад

      There are many EU countries with opt outs or avoiding their EU obligations, are they short sighted and petty too?

    • @papagairood
      @papagairood 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@ocanica3184 Some EU members opt out not using the euro and keeping their currencies but still part of the Schengen agreement.
      Ireland is using the euro but is not part of the Schengen agreement because of the situation at the border in Northern Ireland with the UK.
      Here are just some example i can show you. Like i said, UK wants everything without putting any efforts.

    • @karlbassett8485
      @karlbassett8485 7 месяцев назад +1

      Some factual errors there. The UK staying out of Schengen did NOT halt free movement at all. Schengen and Free Movement are not the same thing. The UK had the same free movement rights as France, Germany etc.
      What "separate visa system" are you talking about?
      We kept the pound (thank you Labour!) but so have other EU members kept their own currency.
      EFTA members still have to obey EU laws in many areas, being in the Single Market, so cannot make their own laws in these areas.

  • @perjensen3047
    @perjensen3047 10 месяцев назад +77

    I think we safely can conclude that history will be very unkind to those who advocated Brexit. No matter what their current narrative is, in a decade or so, when people will look at this unbiased, historians will just shake their heads in disbelieve.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +13

      I agree with you. Folks like Boris and Nigel have absolutely ruined their legacies and I imagine in a decade from now it’ll be much worse…
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    • @SirBlade666
      @SirBlade666 10 месяцев назад +7

      If people learned at history rather than mythology Brexit would never have happened.

    • @rogerk6180
      @rogerk6180 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@2and20 wouldn't be surprised if both of them are gonna be pushing for rejoining in a couple of years. They don't care, all they want is attention.

    • @Purple_flower09
      @Purple_flower09 9 месяцев назад

      So you made your conclusion after two years?

    • @SuperFlashDriver
      @SuperFlashDriver 8 месяцев назад

      Maybe Britain Should Join The United States, And Have Britain be the second version of the US if you ask me...Wouldn't be a bad idea to try if you ask me.

  • @fiddley
    @fiddley 10 месяцев назад +43

    How are there STILL 33% that think that was a good idea?

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад

      This might be the bigger question!
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    • @geofflepper3207
      @geofflepper3207 10 месяцев назад +5

      Perhaps the people who have the attitude, "Sure we did something stupid that worked out badly but the important thing is that it was our stupid idea"?

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад

      @@geofflepper3207 bahaha. There are many comments saying just this. I think of the EU as the mafia in some ways. There are pros and cons; however, once you join you best not leave unless you want to lose an arm and a leg!

    • @ColinBarrett001
      @ColinBarrett001 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@geofflepper3207 English isolationism and exceptionalism are the very last dregs of the British empire. Arrogance always turns in on itself - and pride comes before a fall.

    • @stephanguitar9778
      @stephanguitar9778 6 месяцев назад

      They won a pissing competition 8 years ago and don't want to lose that glory.

  • @edcoad4930
    @edcoad4930 10 месяцев назад +49

    Just started watching. The reason is idiotic, jingoistic, unqualified politicians.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +1

      People around the world disagree on all matter of subjects but I have yet to meet a human being who thinks politicians are high quality and or qualified. Sad.
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  • @AlexGys9
    @AlexGys9 10 месяцев назад +32

    David Davis: "There will be no downside to Brexit, only a considerable upside".
    Indeed, the other EU27 countries were either too dumb to figure that out or impatiently waiting to follow Britain's lead.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад

      Haha I guess there’s no downside if you’re the EU?
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    • @garyb455
      @garyb455 10 месяцев назад +1

      Do you ever wonder why you feel poorer than you did 10 or 20 years ago ? Its all because of the failure of the EU over decades. Consider how much the EU has already declined relative to the United States. Fifteen years ago, according to the IMF, the GDP of the Eurozone was just under $14 trillion, while the U.S. economy was marginally bigger.Today, the Eurozone’s GDP is just under $15 trillion, a modest rise by any standards. But the U.S.’s GDP has roared ahead to $25 trillion, making its economy 60 per cent bigger than the Eurozone. That’s a lot of relative economic decline for the Euro area in just a decade and a half.The failure of Europe to keep pace with America has taken its toll on living standards. The average EU country is now poorer per head than every state in America bar Idaho and Mississippi. In 1990 America accounted for 25 per cent of global GDP, the EU a little above that. Today, America still accounts for 25 per cent of global GDP but the EU’s share has consistently slipped. It is now just over 14 per cent and falling. America has outperformed the EU on every economic indicator that matters. Since 1990 the U.S. working age population has risen from 127 million to 175 million, a rise of almost 40 per cent, while Europe’s has gone from 94 million to 102 million, a rise of only 9 per cent. We need less EU and a lot more USA

    • @adhiwicaksono6149
      @adhiwicaksono6149 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@garyb455Lots of word from the recession guy, too bad it didn't actually contribute to GDP huh?

    • @ahgversluis
      @ahgversluis 10 месяцев назад +11

      ​@@garyb455I'm really curious to find out when the UK Iis applying to be the next United State 😂
      The economic growth of the US is mainly down to population increase, mostly through migration, actually.

    • @AlexGys9
      @AlexGys9 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@garyb455 Compared to 10 or 20 years ago, even adjusted for inflation, I am not poorer but richer. My house is paid for, I earn more, have more money in the bank and despite my risk aversion I even started investmenting.

  • @sahilm2002
    @sahilm2002 9 месяцев назад +21

    “And declare independence..”
    Err… what was the UK declaring independence from?

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +5

      From being enslaved by the EU duh! A system they voluntarily joined!

    • @chrisdrakes2332
      @chrisdrakes2332 9 месяцев назад +3

      This is what gets me, if we werent an independent nation then how the fuck could we leave in the first place? We made that decision? We have autonomy? What are they on about?

    • @karlbassett8485
      @karlbassett8485 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@2and20 "We" the people never agreed to join. We agreed to join a simple free trade, free movement area in the seventies, and were promised we'd always be able to veto anything we didn't like etc.
      Then over the years governments, Tory and Labour, signed treaties that turned a free trade free movement area into a full political union.
      WE were never consulted or asked if we agreed to that. John Major signed the Maastricht treaty without even a manifesto mandate!
      "WE" never agreed to join a political union.

  • @ΔημητρηςΜπεκιαρης-μ2κ
    @ΔημητρηςΜπεκιαρης-μ2κ 9 месяцев назад +12

    Also UK used to attract some of Europe's top students at its universities who would then go on to work there thus strengthening the economy and sciences. Post Brexit however the same students would have to pay enormous ammounts of money to attend and therefore choose other EU institutions.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      This is a great point. They tried offsetting this by introducing the top 50 university visa, but we will see how that does

  • @veramentestanco
    @veramentestanco 9 месяцев назад +11

    The UK's historic euroscepticism is a saga that’s been brewing for decades, way before the Brexit drama unfolded. It's like the UK's relationship with the EU has always been a bit of a love-hate affair, more on the rocky side, you could say. A large section of the UK population felt that the EU was like this overly fussy parent laying down loads of rules and regulations, which some argued were keeping the country from reaching its full potential.
    This sentiment isn't exactly baseless; the EU can be a bit clunky and bureaucratic, not always the poster child for efficiency and innovation. Think of it like a well-meaning but slightly overbearing parent who insists on a curfew just when the party's getting good. It means well, but boy, does it love paperwork!
    This feeling played right into the hands of right-leaning parties and media outlets. They found it super convenient to point the finger at the EU for just about anything that wasn’t going right. Economy's in a bit of a pickle? Blame the EU. Fishing industry struggling? That’s the EU for you again. It was like the EU became the go-to scapegoat for a whole host of issues, regardless of whether it actually had anything to do with them.
    This narrative sold well because it was simple and it gave people a clear "villain" to rally against. It’s easier to blame a big, faceless entity like the EU than to tackle the complex web of domestic and global factors that actually underpin most issues.
    This strategy worked a treat for rallying support, especially among those who felt left behind by globalization and the modern economy. It tapped into a deep-seated desire for sovereignty and control, fueling the push for Brexit with the promise of taking back control from the EU’s grasp. And well, we all know how that chapter ended. It's a classic example of how powerful the narrative around blame and sovereignty can be in shaping political landscapes.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      Couldn't have said it better myself. It is the story of Apollonius telling the Ephesians to stone the blind beggar. The Ephesians were suffering an unnamed plague, one that I would argue was born of mimetic conflict. Upon killing the innocent man, the Ephesians felt relief, release and freedom from their plague. But sadly, it is only temporary, and eventually another scapegoat must be found. The cycle repeats. This time it is the EU. Next, who knows...

    • @adamlea6339
      @adamlea6339 9 месяцев назад

      The irony is many of those so-called beaurocratic EU rules that were apparently a motivation for Brexit were put forward by the UK.

    • @Purple_flower09
      @Purple_flower09 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@2and20 you couldn't have said it at all, never mind better. This person, unlike you, actually understands Brexit.

    • @noelfleming3567
      @noelfleming3567 9 месяцев назад

      Well said sir fantastic comment ❤

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl 7 месяцев назад

      Billionaire James Dyson got the huff with the EU over the way they specified vacuum cleaners should be tested and became a prominent Brexiteer ......... then moved his company HQ to Singapore close to his Malaysian factories.

  • @Sabamike192
    @Sabamike192 9 месяцев назад +26

    Yes, it was 8 years ago. Many leave voters have since died and most young voters, several of whom were under 18 back then, are supporters of rejoining. So the demography has changed. Another referendum today would be vastly different.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +3

      This is a very interesting point and I agree it explains some of the trend change.
      Sometimes it’s hard to stomach when the old make decisions for the young. Even though the young have to live with it for much longer

    • @hpvspeedmachine4183
      @hpvspeedmachine4183 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yes in the next 20-30 years 😂😂

    • @Hattonbank
      @Hattonbank 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@2and20It's a bit like old, intolerant, conservative male politicians deciding on reproductive rights for young women (GOP in the USA)

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      ​@@Hattonbank I see where you are coming from, but I think these issues are very different. Abortion rights are centered around two key questions: (1) when is the fetus considered a living being with rights, and (2) does the woman's right to her body supplant a fetuses right to life?
      This is far less murky and is related to young people being at a strategic disadvantage to vote for things in their favor due to population dynamics and influence.
      Theoretically, pro-life and pro-choice advocates should be at an equal advantage or disadvantage.

    • @MagicalKid
      @MagicalKid 9 месяцев назад

      I'm guessing many of them died to COVID as well

  • @Paul-p1p6m
    @Paul-p1p6m 10 месяцев назад +10

    350 million per week for NHS promise, minus 20 billions effective, Brexit is a net gain for Europe, thanks. Encore, Again, leave so we do not have in Europe the blockade of Britain in our EU Parliament.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад

      I didn’t realize how happy folks in the EU were about this!
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  • @adrianduggan4739
    @adrianduggan4739 9 месяцев назад +14

    Honestly Brexit has and will always place a huge strain on Irish-British relations, which is unfortunate because the past 20 years previous were probably the golden years of a positive relationship. Not only on an economic level does it place so much bureaucracy and barriers but on a diplomatic level it’s a huge headache where the Irish Government have to just hope that each new British government will act in good faith. With British politics I wouldn’t be holding my breath. Ireland can’t even distance itself from Britain completely - although where we can we should and we have, we have to try harder regarding good will because of Northern Ireland

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +1

      This is something I need to study more but my peripheral reading suggests this is absolutely true.
      The lack of stability in the UK government does not instill confidence and introduces so much variability in policy, temperaments and more.
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    • @franswiggers601
      @franswiggers601 9 месяцев назад +1

      The Irish are no longer interested.

    • @Purple_flower09
      @Purple_flower09 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@2and20 yes do some reading and beef up your anti British bigotry to a whole new level.

    • @michaelrowsell1160
      @michaelrowsell1160 9 месяцев назад

      You shelter behind the UK and NATO.

  • @DD-sr9xm
    @DD-sr9xm 9 месяцев назад +9

    It’s just mistake compounded upon mistake. Leave, bad idea. Type of brexit, hard brexit, bad idea. Do nothing to prepare for brexit, bad idea. Do nothing to address brexit issues as they arise, bad idea. Pressure media to be cheerleaders for brexit and avoid criticism, bad idea. The Tories should be outlawed as a political party given the damage they have done.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      Politicians focus on winning votes not on delivering results. Really sad :(
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    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl 7 месяцев назад

      I had high hopes for Theresa May getting us a good deal, but Brexiteer politicians weren't going to be happy until someone told the Germans where to shove their Frankfurters.

    • @karlbassett8485
      @karlbassett8485 7 месяцев назад

      You do know that it was a Labour MP running the official leave campaign, right? She came up with that infamous buss and the £350m a week slogan.

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl 7 месяцев назад

      @@karlbassett8485 It was who endorsed it that was the problem. Boris stood next to the bus for nine minutes while trying to outdo Nigel Farage in Euroscepticism (who as you have said was running a different campaign).

  • @Capt.DanInJapan
    @Capt.DanInJapan 10 месяцев назад +26

    Only 5 seconds in and you have already made a factual error. It wasn't 52% of UK citizens, it was 52% of those who voted. The single largest demographic was people who, for whatever reason, didn't vote.

    • @jodocusonbenul
      @jodocusonbenul 10 месяцев назад

      One could also argue it's way more than 52%. Iirc only 37% voted, which means 63% really did not give a toss, and implicitly accepted either outcome. Which could be interpreted as 82% either voting for or implicitly accepting brexit. Whatever you do, you can in no way argue only 19% voted for brexit. It's all academic anyway, 52% of those who voted, voted for brexit, and the rest is history.

    • @Capt.DanInJapan
      @Capt.DanInJapan 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@jodocusonbenul Or weren't allowed to vote. Your interpretation is flawed because you could twist that number to mean anything.

    • @jodocusonbenul
      @jodocusonbenul 10 месяцев назад

      @@Capt.DanInJapanAnd you're not twisting things?

    • @Capt.DanInJapan
      @Capt.DanInJapan 10 месяцев назад

      @@jodocusonbenul I'm curious, how do you think I am doing so? I have made no claims, I have only stated factual data.

    • @jodocusonbenul
      @jodocusonbenul 10 месяцев назад

      @@Capt.DanInJapanPlaying dumb, are we? You were implying only 18% voted for brexit. But like I said, it does not matter, not one tiny little bit. Brexit is a done deal, no matter much energy people are apparentely are willing to waste, eight long years on.

  • @DMP9
    @DMP9 10 месяцев назад +28

    Great video! You should do one focusing on the non-economic impacts. I’m a Brit living in the U.S. at the moment and honestly, it’s so depressing looking at the U.K. knowing that we’ve basically destroyed everything we once had going for us as a country. It makes me wonder how many other Brits feel similarly depressed, exhausted, and/or cynical about the current state of our once great country.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you really means a lot! I’ll definitely look into it. And it is super sad.
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    • @garyb455
      @garyb455 10 месяцев назад +2

      Do you ever wonder why you feel poorer than you did 10 or 20 years ago ? Its all because of the failure of the EU over decades. Consider how much the EU has already declined relative to the United States. Fifteen years ago, according to the IMF, the GDP of the Eurozone was just under $14 trillion, while the U.S. economy was marginally bigger.Today, the Eurozone’s GDP is just under $15 trillion, a modest rise by any standards. But the U.S.’s GDP has roared ahead to $25 trillion, making its economy 60 per cent bigger than the Eurozone. That’s a lot of relative economic decline for the Euro area in just a decade and a half.The failure of Europe to keep pace with America has taken its toll on living standards. The average EU country is now poorer per head than every state in America bar Idaho and Mississippi. In 1990 America accounted for 25 per cent of global GDP, the EU a little above that. Today, America still accounts for 25 per cent of global GDP but the EU’s share has consistently slipped. It is now just over 14 per cent and falling. America has outperformed the EU on every economic indicator that matters. Since 1990 the U.S. working age population has risen from 127 million to 175 million, a rise of almost 40 per cent, while Europe’s has gone from 94 million to 102 million, a rise of only 9 per cent. We need less EU and a lot more USA

    • @Mugtree
      @Mugtree 10 месяцев назад +5

      Agree with you. I was on holiday recently in Italy and when thinking about going home it depressed me. There is no joy in the UK anymore. It is just a miserable place to be with now sight of things getting better

    • @michaelrowsell1160
      @michaelrowsell1160 9 месяцев назад

      I live in Spain and glad I got out 25 years ago ,but do feel sorry for the many who lost their freedom of movement .

  • @greybeardp
    @greybeardp 9 месяцев назад +5

    Actually, 52% of UK voters didn't vote to leave the EU. 37% voted to Leave; 35% voted to Remain; and 28% didn't bother to vote.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      I am aware!

  • @ColinBarrett001
    @ColinBarrett001 9 месяцев назад +12

    I would like to thank the brexiters. My housing, food, fuel and cost of living are now all so much cheaper! I now have a beautiful old farmhouse set in 3.5 acres of parkland gardens with a swimming pool and a barn for my classic cars. I never had any of this before brexit and I wouldn't have had it without brexit! I achieved all this by simply following the example of the leaders of brexit and the Leave campaign.
    I moved to France! 😅😅

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      This is the best comment anyone has made. I thank you for your service.
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    • @daktari999
      @daktari999 6 месяцев назад

      Too funny! This is indeed the best comment!

  • @darthamar4042
    @darthamar4042 9 месяцев назад +11

    I'm still waiting for someone to tell me about the bright side? Guess that would be a very short article.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      It would be indeed 😂!
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    • @markblance8492
      @markblance8492 9 месяцев назад

      What, you didn’t get your unicorn…. Write to Bojo and Fartage, they must be looking after it for you

    • @darthamar4042
      @darthamar4042 9 месяцев назад

      @@markblance8492 Hi Mark. Have you considered you might be on the autistic spectrum, given that you haven't picked up on the sarcasm in my comment?

  • @wotreplays8896
    @wotreplays8896 9 месяцев назад +6

    It was worth it for UK as they can become racist towards immigrants and EU can't do nothing about it

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      Make Britain British again

    • @Purple_flower09
      @Purple_flower09 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@2and20 I refer you to the large EU funded research which found the UK less racist than most EU countries. Look it up.

    • @karlbassett8485
      @karlbassett8485 7 месяцев назад

      @@Purple_flower09 Yep, that was a huge survey the EU did in 2019 that concluded the UK was just about the LEAST racist country in Europe. Plus of course have you seen our current Prime Minister?

  • @leocordeiro81
    @leocordeiro81 9 месяцев назад +7

    Actually it was only 23% of UK citizens that voted to leave, 52% is just from the people who voted at all.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +1

      I’m aware of this!!! But the vote is what counts

    • @j.c.6238
      @j.c.6238 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@2and20Well make sure you say the correct information in your future content then

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +1

      Sounds good. Next time I will say that "52% of voters voted to leave the UK; however, there is no statistical analysis that confirms whether this is a statistically significant representative population and therefore we cannot affirm that the majority of the population would have voted to leave, nor can we say the minority"

  • @shobhapaul9009
    @shobhapaul9009 10 месяцев назад +10

    52 % of british people did not vote for Brexit. 52% of those who VOTED voted for Brexit. Not 100% of Brits voted. I didn't get to vote because I was in hospital, as were millions of others. The vote should not have been limited to just 1 day. Voting was not even for the full 24 hours of that 1 day

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +1

      This is a wonderful point! It is also an issue of apathy. Most vote stay voters didn’t imagine this outcome in their wildest dreams. If the polls had shown vote leave winning I bet droves of people would have come out.
      Thank you for commenting :-)

    • @geofflepper3207
      @geofflepper3207 10 месяцев назад +2

      People could vote only on one day? That was a ludicrous policy.
      There should have been many days on which to vote.
      And obviously 50% plus one should not be the requirement to make such a major change like Brexit. At least 55% if not 60% yes vote should have been required to make a change that was so drastic and was going to be so expensive and complicated to carry out and would br so hard to reverse if it didn't work out well.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +1

      @@geofflepper3207 ya it is definitely absurd. I think the vote stay side thought this outcome was so unlikely that they were caught flat footed. Markets hadn't priced this in at all, which is a great indicator of expectation.
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    • @shobhapaul9009
      @shobhapaul9009 10 месяцев назад +2

      @2and20 Apathy! That was the word I was looking for. Thank you. I think the problem with the British is that if we Hate something (Europe), we protest and moan loudly. If we Like something or are simply indifferent to it (Europe), we just don't bother. Heaven forbid we should applaud the benefits of something.

  • @aleccullen2696
    @aleccullen2696 9 месяцев назад +6

    Since Thatcher and perhaps even earlier, Britons have elected idiots into power. It was part of a worldwide phenomenon, but the Britons made a proper feast of it, as did their American cousins. Carl Bernstein put his finger on it: “We are in the process of creating what deserves to be called the idiot culture. Not an idiot sub-culture, which every society has bubbling beneath the surface and which can provide harmless fun; but the culture itself. For the first time, the weird and the stupid and the coarse are becoming our cultural norm, even our cultural ideal.” The ongoing effect of Brexit will be the disintegration of the United Kingdom. If Belfast wants to avoid following the fate of Grimsby, it needs to return to Europe by joining the Republic of Eire. And that's just for starters. BoJo and Farage will be able to look at their handiwork with great satisfaction as the wreckers of the Great in Great Britain..

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      Very thoughtful comment. I will say this though, the traditional political class is also very flawed and stupid. The nationalistic sort are morons reacting to cultural change, while the neo-liberal/conservative class are morons because they think they are so smart they can plan their way through everything. The sweet spot (as usual) is somewhere in the middle. However, we have not seen such a leader in a long while, and I imagine we won't forever. Boring, simple and thoughtful is unelectable :(
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  • @RichFlemingRealtor
    @RichFlemingRealtor 10 месяцев назад +7

    You can’t “turn back the clock to the good ol’ days”. GB is not the economic power it was even 50 years ago.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад

      Absolutely agree! Unless of course the decide to pay india a visit again…
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    • @georgesdelatour
      @georgesdelatour 9 месяцев назад

      When we joined the EEC/EU, 30% of our GDP was in manufacturing. When we left it was just 9%.
      In the 19th century, Friedrich List warned Germans that free trade with the UK would destroy German industry and make them "drawers of water and hewers of wood for Britain”. It turned out that free trade with Germany in the late 20th century did the same in reverse for the UK.

  • @saddoncarrs6963
    @saddoncarrs6963 9 месяцев назад +7

    England, once the seat of a strong union and a mighty empire, has been on a long slow bumpy downward spiral since WW1. During this period the country was handed two olive branches - North Sea oil and membership of the Common Market/EU. Both opportunities were squandered. I'd say that England has a ways to go yet but, by all accounts, there is no reverse gear and the nation appears to be heading inextricably towards a rather rocky bottom. There is no empire left, and soon no union.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      I wish I could write like you!
      I agree with you on this. England (like any country) can still turn the ship around but it’s getting harder by the day. The recent musical chairs in government hasn’t helped and the lack of a cohesive vision for englands future is alarming.
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    • @Purple_flower09
      @Purple_flower09 9 месяцев назад

      This comment is copy and paste that the commenter puts all over the internet.

    • @ocanica3184
      @ocanica3184 9 месяцев назад +1

      This decay isn't exclusive to Britain but to pretty much of western Europe. Germany is going through deindustrialization due to energy costs and competition from China, France is losing Françafrique to Russia and probably the CFA Franc soon after. Europe has been stagnant for almost two decades, cannot defend itself without America and populism is growing at a concerning rate across the continent. There's far too much nasal gazing in these threads. Brexit is bad but Europe as a whole isn't much better.

  • @sailawayteam
    @sailawayteam 10 месяцев назад +8

    Interestingly, 33% of the citizens is about the same fraction of the electorate that voted for leave. Too few cared at all. I hope Americans don't make the same mistake in November.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +2

      Ya those who wanted to leave went out to vote in masses while those who wanted to stay sat around thinking their vote wouldn’t make the difference.
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    • @shobhapaul9009
      @shobhapaul9009 10 месяцев назад +3

      I don't think that they couldn't be bothered, I just think that it could never happen. They were mistaken in thinking that there were not enough people who would believe the Brexiteers lies.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +2

      Agreed!
      There is no accountability to politicians manipulating numbers. For example, Boris Johnson’s bus - he was dead wrong.

    • @Nick-xf5hr
      @Nick-xf5hr 9 месяцев назад

      Brexiteers won because the biased press in the uk backed brexit. People were misinformed and lied to.

  • @patatacaliente8270
    @patatacaliente8270 9 месяцев назад +5

    "The dark side of Brexit"? Has there ever been a bright side to it?

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +1

      Farage leaving the UK?

  • @martynjones8560
    @martynjones8560 9 месяцев назад +8

    Brexit mentality: "If I shoot myself in the foot, I'll be able to run faster".

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      For freedom!

  • @Crevulus
    @Crevulus 9 месяцев назад +5

    You have grossly oversimplified the arguments on immigration.
    I voted Remain and volunteer with refugees. I'm pro-immigration, generally speaking.
    For you to say "people wanted Britain to look more British" falls into the same trap that the Remain campaign fell into. It was happy to label Leavers as racists, and bring their entire argument down to bigotry. So it got complacent. It ignored the valid fears that people have about immigration that weren't addressed by the Remain campaign. Nor have they been addressed by politicians since.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      You raise a fair point. I probably could have discussed the fears related to immigration in more detail, and also mention that not all of the issues with immigration related to pure xenophobia. However, I would say much of the fear was racism.
      The UKs pre-Brexit migration rate was relatively low compared to most first world economies with similar age demographics. People pointed the finger at immigrants taking jobs and lowering quality of life, when the issue was deeper.
      Lastly, I do think immigration can have negative impacts on quality of life, especially lower income people. It reduces leverage in wages and places more pressure on social services.

    • @karlbassett8485
      @karlbassett8485 7 месяцев назад +1

      True. And look at Ireland in the last few days. Suddenly that are really unhappy about lots of asylum seekers and want them thrown out of Ireland, destroying their tent city and rounding them up and putting them in camps. And not a peep from the people who have spent years calling the UK racist and xenophobic. Apparently wanting to kick asylum seekers out is fine when it is Ireland doing it.

  • @user-hm4cd8eh1i
    @user-hm4cd8eh1i 9 месяцев назад +6

    For us here in ireland brexit was a great idea as we are now the only English-speaking eu country and FDI has increased dramatically here since brexit

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      A whiskey to that!!!

    • @ocanica3184
      @ocanica3184 9 месяцев назад

      There are several English speaking countries in the EU

    • @karlbassett8485
      @karlbassett8485 7 месяцев назад +1

      And now you are bitching about asylum seekers and trying to throw them out of the country.

  • @habohabo9696
    @habohabo9696 9 месяцев назад +5

    I liked the report, however I don‘t agree with the statement that France is the ‚sworn enemy’ of the UK. They are two friendly countries competing economically. They have not been enemies for centuries now. They might be each others biggest rivals but not enemies.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      Appreciate the comment! It was a bit of a cheeky comment on my end. I recognize they aren't sworn enemies.
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    • @trthib
      @trthib 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@2and20Nothing "cheeky" about that kind of SYSTEMIC bully attitude and comment comming from britts....!

  • @DanielHowardIRE
    @DanielHowardIRE 9 месяцев назад +3

    The only part is the UK that's booming economically is Northern Ireland ironically. Why? Because of the Good Friday Agreement, there can't be a hard border on the island of Ireland. That's meant that NI is aligned to the EU in terms of trade. Trade is exponentially increased between the two parts of Ireland. It's speculated that Brexit has been the biggest push towards Irish unification as a result. Only time will tell!

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      Haha have a guinness for me!!!
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    • @ocanica3184
      @ocanica3184 9 месяцев назад

      Northern Ireland runs a fiscal deficit, the exact opposite of booming. The last time it was a net contributor was in the 1930s

  • @tobiwan001
    @tobiwan001 9 месяцев назад +4

    Ah. Don't forget that the British population was the only one opposing a European Army. That was also a great prediction. Not that we could use one right now...

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      Somewhat related, NATO has been a huge screw up. We need to reduce militaries not expand.

  • @macflod
    @macflod 9 месяцев назад +5

    Why brexit failed?
    There isn’t really a why, It was always going to fail. Why implies it might have succeeded but this, or any version was never going to succeed.
    The more interesting question is, why was it voted for?
    In short. 1. primarily English exceptionalism, xenophobia and deference( and i mean English, not the other 3 nations of the UK).
    2. Add to this, the Print media overwhelmingly in favour of it and decade or more of anti EU grooming
    3. Lastly and it links with number 1,, plain old nostalgia and the peoples dissatisfaction with their current situations.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      The good ol days are just that...
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  • @sng1867
    @sng1867 9 месяцев назад +11

    Why? Brexit is the only example I can think of where a country imposed a trade embargo on itself

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      Great way to put it
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    • @MbisonBalrog
      @MbisonBalrog 6 месяцев назад

      But that protects domestic companies from foreign competitors. Brits need to learn to make and do everything on their own. Be better for it. Look at Russia? Every one sanction then but they thrive.

  • @bjornk9638
    @bjornk9638 9 месяцев назад +3

    This video does not even consider the political, diplomatic, and social benefits that the EU brings.
    But as a proud EU citizen, in retrospect, I'm inclined to view Brexit as a success. The UK has often been obstructive towards deeper EU integration. Brexit also improved public attitudes to the EU and dampened hard Euroscepticism. I would, of course, like to see our British friends rejoin the EU, but only if we can be sure that, this time, they are fully committed to Europe.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      I would argue that those benefits are academic fodder but don’t hold substance in the real world.
      Economics (in my opinion) drives pretty much everything. Without economic incentive nothing gets done and nothing lasts.
      The three things you mentioned only matter in the context of economics at the end of the day

    • @bjornk9638
      @bjornk9638 9 месяцев назад +1

      If Economics drives everything, Brexit would never have happened. Though it undeniably is very influential, I don't value Economics as much as you do, though I won't get into that debate.
      The UK abolishing numerous pieces of EU legislation did impact. The obvious being freedom of movement and working, studying abroad, and dual citizenship, but also things such as air, water, and food standards negatively impacted the British (though these could of course be reversed as these are political decisions).
      Other examples include:
      Brexit also affected British cooperation with EU MSs in policy areas such as Security, Space, & Science.
      Britain's bargaining power in negotiations is significantly weaker in diplomatic affairs.
      After Brexit, the UK would become a rule-taker instead of a rule-maker. It obviously isn't part of the EU's decision-making process (which it had considerable influence over) yet will have to conform to EU standards (For access to the internal market) and is stimulated to follow EU policy in other areas.
      None of these things happen in a vacuum either. The last example, Britain being a rule-taker, does have very real implications for its ability to make its own economic policy.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      I see where you’re coming from but my point is as follows:
      If people are doing well economically nothing else matters. The frustration with immigrants wouldn’t matter if people didn’t feel economically disadvantaged or left behind.
      I do agree that other things matter but the only benefit countries should ever contemplate in decision making is economics and in select circumstances doing what’s ethical

    • @bjornk9638
      @bjornk9638 9 месяцев назад

      @@2and20 Then we disagree on this core aspect of life and governance. Even in times of economic prosperity, social frustrations and power politics can take precedence over rational economic decision-making. Anyways, we won't get far, I hope we can agree to disagree.

    • @Purple_flower09
      @Purple_flower09 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@bjornk9638 I'm always encouraged when someone from an EU country says they would like to see the UK back, dependent on the UK buying into the whole EU package. It's obvious to everyone now that the UK had not been participating in the whole EU project in the right way. This is because the English never believed in it except for the trade aspect. Sadly I doubt this perception in England will change. Being worse off in some respects won't, I believe, lead the English to change their perspective. It's likely the UK will never apply again and this is the main reason. The English simply don't believe in the project. Greetings from Scotland - we'd like to be closer to the Nordic countries, if a way can be found.

  • @portman8909
    @portman8909 9 месяцев назад +4

    Scotland should be able to vote another indy ref. Majority voted to remain in the EU.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      The downfall of being part of the not-so "United" Kingdom. Super sad.
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  • @terryfinnie2146
    @terryfinnie2146 10 месяцев назад +14

    The brexit referendum was supposed to be a advisory referendum,david davis conned you all(Brexiteers).

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад

      What a crazy situation!
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    • @almor2445
      @almor2445 10 месяцев назад

      Lmao David Davis only became an mp because of my step father and he loved the eu! 😆

    • @georgesdelatour
      @georgesdelatour 9 месяцев назад +1

      450 of the 650 MPs elected in the 2017 General Election had voted Remain in 2016. Yet most of them felt under an obligation to carry out the result, even though they clearly didn't want to.

    • @karlbassett8485
      @karlbassett8485 7 месяцев назад

      False. Stop pushing this Remainer lie. Everyone, literally everyone, on both sides, said if we voted to leave we WOULD leave. No one, no one at all, was saying it was "just advisory". This myth is being pushed because in the UK ALL referendums are advisory. Parlaiment always has the power to overturn any referendum, so technically ALL referendums here are "advisory", unlike say Ireland whose constitution requires issues like this to be decided by referendum and their parliament and government MUST obey the referendum result.

  • @ptptpt123
    @ptptpt123 5 месяцев назад +1

    "Why having a supranational government making laws for British soil from abroad was good for Britain" as your video proves, EU is anti-trade with anyone from outside of EU. Protectionist racket for uncompetitive European industries. Brexit gave Britain the power to do well by itself, but government incompetence isn't able to replace that EU integrated business links that were lost. Sovereignty is priceless.

  • @gmcgrath123x
    @gmcgrath123x 9 месяцев назад +4

    Cheers David Cameron....

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      Weak leader haha

  • @colinsmith1288
    @colinsmith1288 10 месяцев назад +5

    If the Uk can get over it's xenophobia and have freedom of movement and trade with countries like Turkey,Albania,even Malaysia l can see benfits for all these nations and the Uk.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +1

      Fingers crossed!
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    • @karlbassett8485
      @karlbassett8485 7 месяцев назад +1

      The UK has joined the Pacific free trade deal, so there are lots of countries we can trade with there.

  • @maraboo72
    @maraboo72 9 месяцев назад +3

    What is the benefit of the music in the background? I stopped watching after 20 sec.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      We’ve received the opposite feedback from a lot of folks that without music they disengage quickly. We are still trying to figure it all out and I appreciate the comment.
      If you have it in you, I would appreciate you giving the video a try!

    • @angryconsultant
      @angryconsultant 9 месяцев назад +1

      Jeez don't be a dinosaur, have you ever been to a movie without background music or score?

  • @Ronnet
    @Ronnet 9 месяцев назад +5

    As suggested by the title, there is also a bright side to brexit?! Should make a video on that. The Tories are still looking for one of those illusive benefits afterall.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      I’ll ask them to commission my research. Times are tough can’t be making propaganda for free ;)

  • @Truthseeker1515
    @Truthseeker1515 9 месяцев назад +4

    It's been catastrophic.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      Ya very sad

  • @Gudha_Ismintis
    @Gudha_Ismintis 8 месяцев назад +1

    This was painful to watch from start to finish - the truth hurts.

  • @23merlino
    @23merlino 10 месяцев назад +10

    don't forget that EU trade agreements with other countries (as far as i understand) prohibit those countries entering into a trade agreement that is more beneficial to other countries, eg; britain than it is to the EU...

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +1

      Ya many of the new agreements the UK has are pretty much carbon copies of old ones under the EU.
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    • @23merlino
      @23merlino 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@2and20 - yep, did so this morning straight after listening to your unbiased analysis... :-)

    • @georgesdelatour
      @georgesdelatour 10 месяцев назад

      I doubt such a legal prohibition - if it exists - would be justiciable. Suppose the EU negotiates a trade deal with the imaginary country of Ambrosia. During the negotiations, Ambrosia agrees to all of the things on the EU’s shopping list, while the EU agrees to only half of the things on Ambrosia’s list. They finalise a trade deal on those terms. But once the trade starts flowing, it still leads to Ambrosia exporting more to the EU than the EU exports to Ambrosia.
      This sort of thing happens all the time. The giant economy of China has negotiated trade deals with the much smaller economies of Switzerland and South Korea. In both cases, the smaller countries actually have export surpluses with China.

    • @rogerk6180
      @rogerk6180 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@georgesdelatourit just means that if that country next starts negotiations with the uk, and it gives the uk better trading terms then the eu. Those better trade terms will automaticly start applying to the eu as well.
      And that indeed is part of all eu and usa trade deals with other countries.

    • @georgesdelatour
      @georgesdelatour 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@rogerk6180 I don’t even think that makes any sense.
      Imagine the UK is negotiating a trade deal with Ambrosia at the same time as the EU is negotiating one. One byproduct of the EU being much bigger than the UK is, EU negotiators will be under pressure to protect certain French, Italian, Spanish etc products and brands which the UK doesn’t care about at all. So it will be in the best interests of the EU for the trade deal with Ambrosia to be more limited than the UK deal. The EU doesn’t want their market flooded with Ambrosian competitor products, while the UK doesn’t care, because it doesn’t have any domestic manufacturers of those products. So the UK can happily agree to a quid pro quo with Ambrosia which the EU can’t. For the UK, there’s probably a net benefit to consumers in replacing more expensive French products with cheaper Ambrosian products. It makes UK consumers richer.
      I imagine that trade between China and the USA is more managed and controlled than trade between China and Switzerland. The USA probably doesn’t want as much free trade with China as Switzerland does, because it has a broader range of domestic producers to protect.
      The UK is a now member of the CPTPP. I can’t believe that the EU could negotiate a free trade deal with the CPTPP which goes further than full CPTPP membership.

  •  6 месяцев назад

    Hay 2 and 20
    We need more frank and unfiltered (but fact backed) vids like this !

  • @Probablyacowtbh
    @Probablyacowtbh 10 месяцев назад +8

    I wonder where that Brexit bus went, £350mil per week for the NHS despite escalating wait times? Our current PM having a cute conversation with American private health insurers prior to getting his current position as PM (which he was never voted for, I'm sure his billionaire wife' family are happy for though)

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +1

      Haha this has to be the saddest and funniest thing about Brexit. The bus!
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    • @michaeladkins6
      @michaeladkins6 10 месяцев назад

      richi will fly out on election night.

    • @karlbassett8485
      @karlbassett8485 7 месяцев назад

      @@2and20 That bus that was from the official leave campaign that was run by a LABOUR MP.... She made the infamous £350m a week claim first.

    • @karlbassett8485
      @karlbassett8485 7 месяцев назад

      Boris passed a funding bill in 2019 that gave the NHS an extra £33.9 billion a year.
      That's TWICE that £350m a week figure.
      The NHS did get that money, and far more.

  • @senwod70
    @senwod70 9 месяцев назад +1

    Giving the Agincourt salute makes more sense when youve defeated 10,000 french knights, not to your largest block of peaceful trading partners.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      Only if someone told Nigel this...
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  • @michaelwear2252
    @michaelwear2252 9 месяцев назад +3

    It worked for its financial backers. Lord Vestery, of the horse meat scandal wanted to import substandard meat, banned by the EU. Aaron banks wanted to sell financial packages the EU wanted to ban. David Davis and Tate and Lyle, wanted to import cheap cane sugar undercutting British Sugar and 9000 sugar beet farmers. Even Danial Hannan advised hedge funds to bet against the pound. It worked for some.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      The rich keep getting richer :(

    • @karlbassett8485
      @karlbassett8485 7 месяцев назад

      The UK just walked away from trade deal talks with Canada because Canada wanted us to lower beef standards and the UK refused.

  • @ppckrtt
    @ppckrtt 9 месяцев назад +2

    There are no "new" trading barriers for small and medium companies. Customs tariffs and regulations were already in place and still are. Just Britain decided to become a third country, for which they apply.
    But to answer the opening question: Yes, Brexit was a success - for the rest of the EU, as we got rid of an annoying member. Unfortunate however, that your role had been swiftly assumed by Hungary

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      This is what I mean, but thanks for clarification.

  • @LynxLord1991
    @LynxLord1991 10 месяцев назад +7

    Funny how when you "settle" in those nation by force its okay but when they wanna settle in yours its not XD

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +1

      Hmm not sure I’m understanding what you’re saying, can you explain further?

    • @LynxLord1991
      @LynxLord1991 10 месяцев назад

      @ I just find it funny how much UK "hates" immigrants but their ancestor try forcing everyone to be more British in the past and now when people want to be British they don't want them. I know every EU nation has trouble with immigration but the UK seems to be the one who have the hardest time with the idea of others.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад

      This is an interesting point for sure. When times are tough for folks they scapegoat, it is the natural tendency. In the UK's case, the slow down of economic progress outside of London became an immigration issue -- even though that is far from the truth.

    • @LynxLord1991
      @LynxLord1991 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@2and20 Well yeah that a common enough ploy by Politicians but thats were the biggest nr of the public usually goes wait a minute that makes no sense and to completely ignore the possitive of EU for that is mindboggling to me

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +1

      @@LynxLord1991 passion clouds judgement unfortunately. I wish folks were more pragmatic. The saddest part: those who voted leave are most negatively impacted by Brexit...

  • @Silverfish-qv8ig
    @Silverfish-qv8ig 9 месяцев назад +2

    You can't say Brexit was a bad idea after such a short amount of time. Brexit is a long term project. It needs to be analysed more thoroughly than this and over a truly longitudinal period.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +1

      I can accept this but so far it has had very negative consequences. I belief is that the UK will continue to decline as it lacks a true competitive advantage

    • @Silverfish-qv8ig
      @Silverfish-qv8ig 9 месяцев назад +1

      Perhaps... But there certainly could be. Corporate tax rate at 12.5% would be a start. Then you must remember that British education and British top-tier Graduates are some of the finest in the world. London is still very much a global hub. The British are expert users of the English language. Britain is a cultural hub. Britain has a truly open economy. Brits are advanced users of Web functionality and early adopters in most tech. Britain has a fantastic pharmaceutical and medical framework for development of medicine, inoculations etc. Britain is a cultural powerhouse even now and a significant influencer of hollywood. All of these in conjuction will ensure that Britain continues to have a competitive advantage moving forward, whether part of the EU or not.

    • @Silverfish-qv8ig
      @Silverfish-qv8ig 9 месяцев назад +1

      And on the topic of immigration, as per your other sections, this is massively impacted by larger geo-political issues that would have existed with or without Brexit. This includes immigration from Hong Kong and Ukraine. With EU immigration, figures would have been closer to the 1 million mark. And I feel the 'doesn't look British' point is below you. Albanians don't look British. Neither do Eastern Europeans. Your point seems to tread on slightly racist grounds.

    • @Purple_flower09
      @Purple_flower09 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@Silverfish-qv8ig the content creator is basically a bigot or just very clumsy with language.

    • @Purple_flower09
      @Purple_flower09 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​​@@Silverfish-qv8ig interesting the channel didn't want to engage with your strong points here. I was always against Brexit but it happened and the UK has to find ways of moving forward. I would add to your list of UK assets a powerful tech sector that sold £2.4 billion of services to Germany in 2023.

  • @sarahernst
    @sarahernst 10 месяцев назад +3

    Your channel is amazing, keep pushing!!

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад

      Thank you! Appreciate the support :)

  • @ashm9953
    @ashm9953 7 месяцев назад +1

    If you don't want Indian immigrants maybe don't send mixed signals by having Chicken Tikka Masala as your national dish.

  • @D59hawk
    @D59hawk 9 месяцев назад +9

    Most stupid move Britain ever made!

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      It wasn’t a smart move to say the least!
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  • @julianosvonskingrad7009
    @julianosvonskingrad7009 9 месяцев назад +2

    What confuses me the most is the way these very important debates are held: You just scream your BELIEVES into the room and the press your hands on the ears. A lot of those devastating brexit consequences could have been easily seen. At least if you wanted to. But brexiteers just went for "We want to believe in this reality!".

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      The downfall of democracy. Unless people are willing to educate themselves you will always have this. Very sad :(

  • @karenchristinewise7833
    @karenchristinewise7833 10 месяцев назад +6

    It was 52% of the votes cast. It was not 52% of the electorate. Please do your research. It doesn't bode well when the first "fact" is wrong. Also, the country's name is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It is spread over the islands of Great Britain and Ireland. Great Britain is England, Wales and Scotland. Northern Ireland is on the island of Ireland and is two thirds of the province of Ulster (6 counties out of 9). Greetings from the Republic of Ireland and former British colony.

    • @jmxtoob
      @jmxtoob 10 месяцев назад +1

      Came here to add this. It was closer to 26% of the population, and lower if you count the millions disenfranchised (e.g. UK citizens living in the EU at the time of the vote)

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +3

      We are aware of the difference but the broader point still stands that support has declined based on polling data

    • @daviddunne4737
      @daviddunne4737 9 месяцев назад

      Cheers. It looks like Northern Ireland has a decent future courtesy of the dreaded 'protocol'. Northern Ireland economy was best performing of the UK. But Brexit looks like a very British Fcukup (excuse the French as they say. 😊 They should have listened to Steve Bray and ignored Boris the Liar and his acolytes. Jacob Rees Smugg even relocated part of his business to Dublin.. Cead míle fáilte. Speaks volumes for what he really thought of WRECKSIT. Regards.

  • @willoanz
    @willoanz 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you for the remarkable reportage, precise, well argumented and well illustrated.
    A fair and serious piece of work; well done guys !

  • @jamesmulrooney3309
    @jamesmulrooney3309 9 месяцев назад +4

    I was too young to vote in 2016 but i would have voted remain if i was

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +1

      The old choosing for the young. The ever repeating vicious cycle

  • @Eclivs0
    @Eclivs0 7 месяцев назад

    All the support, keep creating longer content, great channel

  • @stefans.6858
    @stefans.6858 10 месяцев назад +3

    UK has to offer: Tourism, Finance and Pop Music.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +3

      The Queen? Oh wait…
      Too soon?

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад

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    • @barryboom717
      @barryboom717 10 месяцев назад +2

      Pop music! Have you listened to the shit we're pumping out recently? Yes, we're responsible for some of the greatest bands to have graced the stage but we've fallen off a cliff since those days.

    • @georgesdelatour
      @georgesdelatour 10 месяцев назад +2

      The deindustrialisation of the UK happened while we were inside the EU. If you read the economic proposals of the most pro-EU organisations like the Resolution Foundation, they insist we have to stay essentially a services-only economy. The only voices arguing for bringing back manufacturing at scale come from people like the SDP and John Mills.

    • @jameshennessy9174
      @jameshennessy9174 9 месяцев назад +2

      Pop music by bands who are now restricted from touring Europe lol

  • @Garcwyn
    @Garcwyn 9 месяцев назад +2

    You can only measure the failure of Brexit but the huge success it has had in European unity and public perceptions. Among other things. Precisely the opposite of what the Brexit popes wanted. Remember the “domino effect”?
    If you are unsure if one team lost just look if the other team won. That should tell you

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +1

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  • @abbush2921
    @abbush2921 9 месяцев назад +3

    There was a bright side ?

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +2

      EU doesn’t have to deal with the UK anymore?
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  • @hudldevice1092
    @hudldevice1092 9 месяцев назад +1

    The UK was never suited to the EU; De Gaulle recognized this. The UK is better off out of the EU and the EU is probably more homogeneous without the UK.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      Ya probably true

  • @DeeFibbs
    @DeeFibbs 9 месяцев назад +3

    7 Oct 2021 - Intel's CEO Pat Gelsinger has said a planned Intel chip fabrication plant will go to the EU and not Britain
    SANTA CLARA, Calif., March 15, 2022 - Intel today announced the first phase of its plans to invest as much as 80 billion euros in the European Union over the next decade along the entire semiconductor value chain - from research and development (R&D) to manufacturing to state-of-the art packaging technologies.
    Brexit has been great for the EU

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      Ya FDI has been redirected to the EU from Uk and it only makes sense.
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  • @NXNX7
    @NXNX7 9 месяцев назад +6

    Jail terms for Farage, Johnson, Cummings and Gove should be dished out to right some of these wrongs.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      Farage should be forced to be in exile in the European Union haha
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    • @philipmarsden7104
      @philipmarsden7104 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@2and20 No he shouldn't. One of the first things he sought to do was gain German citizenship to benefit from the right of travel within Europe.

  • @TheEclipse5
    @TheEclipse5 10 месяцев назад +2

    It was baffling why Britain left the EU..... They went from the very head of the big boys table, to a middling position surrounded by bigger boys..... You do can't haggle in that position.....

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад

      It was an absolutely misinformed decision. Very sad!
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    • @georgesdelatour
      @georgesdelatour 9 месяцев назад

      From the moment the UK joined the EEC, it sought to reform the CAP. It raised the matter all the time, and got nowhere. The first reform of the CAP happened in the 1990s, when the USA threatened the EU with a full trade war if it didn’t change course. It turned out that only the USA could make the EU adopt a longstanding UK proposal.

    • @ocanica3184
      @ocanica3184 9 месяцев назад

      The only big boys at the table are the US and China 😢

  • @leonardo_Fabri
    @leonardo_Fabri 9 месяцев назад +3

    Great job with the channel. Keep up this good work mate, your insight are spot on!

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

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  • @malahammer
    @malahammer 9 месяцев назад

    Most of us in Ireland understood the problems that Brexit was to bring and were amazed that so many believed the lies and tainted nostalgia. Such major vote should never have been a simple YES/NO vote without all the relevant data to allow for an informed decision. But no one in the UK actually knew what would happen.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      Ya it is a failure of democracy. Such a vote needs to be given more time and thought. People need to be given the facts not political poison
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  • @remcovanek2
    @remcovanek2 9 месяцев назад +3

    Why brexit failed? It was always a fail. Together you are stronger, especially in trade.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      Agreed, this will be a lesson for future generations to learn from!
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  • @ajvanmarle
    @ajvanmarle 8 месяцев назад

    0:06. 52 percent of UK citizens did NOT vote for Brexit. Approximately 72 percent of the voters turned out and 52 percent of those voted in favour. That comes down to about 37 percent of the voters.

  • @erickvillegas8327
    @erickvillegas8327 9 месяцев назад +3

    The UK really hampered its own ability to be competitive on the world stage. All we need now is for the tories to say the reason why the UK is on the decline is because of all the red tape and regulation that the EU is forcing on the UK alone even though the UK is in Europe and should receive equal treatment like the other European nations. Hmm... if only there was a way in which commercial goods were allowed to more easily travel to and from the UK with little to no paper work. 🙄

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      If only there was a way… 😂
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    • @erickvillegas8327
      @erickvillegas8327 9 месяцев назад +1

      @2and20 I am really impressed with your channel. I thought it definitely would have at least a million subscribers and was surprised when I saw so few subscribers. I'll subscribe to help you get there just keep up the high quality. Thanks for the reply.✌️

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      Really appreciate the kind words, we definitely will keep up the quality, we have a video coming up soon on India that we think you’ll like !

  • @TheDunningKrugerEffectisReal
    @TheDunningKrugerEffectisReal 9 месяцев назад +1

    I remember 10+ years ago I stumbled into Nigel Ferage, a representation of the stereotypical, quick witted, sarcastic British politician, at first I thought it was nothing more than an attempt to stop somewhat the force of fundamental Islam in Britain and to "free" the U.K from perhaps what seemed like representation from bureaucrats in Brussels. Years later when Brexit became headlines I could not believe they were actually heading in a direction that can put the islands in peril, to see how connected the economies were and how reliant the system is built around partnerships, unions, etc. The economies are tangled, simple as that, like a drunken partying whore with gum on her hair the next morning.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +1

      This is key. The UK had so much skin in the game. But the idea meant more than the pragmatic reality.
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  • @edwardbrady5843
    @edwardbrady5843 10 месяцев назад +6

    First brexit now they are spending your taxes on an unwinnable war in Ukraine and genocide in Gaza, well done britian 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +1

      Don’t worry maybe we can rejoin the EU? Haha

    • @edwardbrady5843
      @edwardbrady5843 10 месяцев назад

      @@2and20 No you can't just join the EU.Ha ha ha.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  10 месяцев назад +2

      Don’t worry I bought a book just for this: How to Rejoin the EU for dummies haha
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    • @edwardbrady5843
      @edwardbrady5843 10 месяцев назад

      @@2and20 haha.

    • @Don-Coyote-De-Transylvania
      @Don-Coyote-De-Transylvania 10 месяцев назад +2

      It was nice when you was saved from nazi but when it comes to help other nation in the same situation...."we don't do that here" mode activated.

  • @giovannitoninelli3009
    @giovannitoninelli3009 8 месяцев назад

    “It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”

  • @valeria-militiamessalina5672
    @valeria-militiamessalina5672 4 месяца назад

    As a citizen of Europe I applaud and support the UK's decision to leave the Union, I never thought they ever belonged or fit in, every one is better off like this.

  • @MoonLight-gm6zm
    @MoonLight-gm6zm 4 месяца назад

    I'm from Germany and Brexit came as a shock. It was the UK's choice to leave the EU and my guess is they didn't think it though. They didn't appreciate being a part of the EU, and now they've realised what they've lost. Too late.

  • @richardsimms251
    @richardsimms251 9 месяцев назад +1

    Brexit was not understood by the average voter in Britain. It was an emotional decision and not one based on science and common sense.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад

      Decisions like this shouldn't be rushed, and voters need to be properly educated with facts not propaganda. However, in the case of most votes, propaganda is everything.
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  • @dannywinters4336
    @dannywinters4336 9 месяцев назад

    it is a prime example of be careful what you wish for. There would have been people who voted for brexit who didn't want to leave but to protest about the government at Westminster

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +1

      true!

  • @gilibrasil
    @gilibrasil 9 месяцев назад +1

    I live in the EU and I don’t buy more stuff from UK because I was taxed. Imagine how many don’t do the same. It’s only losses. Brexit was a big mistake.

    • @2and20
      @2and20  9 месяцев назад +1

      A lot. It’s materially impacted smaller businesses

    • @gilibrasil
      @gilibrasil 9 месяцев назад

      It's sad reality. I wonder how many are struggling with that decision. @@2and20

    • @karlbassett8485
      @karlbassett8485 7 месяцев назад

      Offset by Brits who now don't buy stuff from the EU because of the same tariffs and taxes. So those Brits now buy stuff from British suppliers, just as you now buy stuff from EU suppliers. So it's not a one way street, that is bad for the UK and the UK only. It averages out.

  • @old.not.too.grumpy.
    @old.not.too.grumpy. 8 месяцев назад

    The opening is wrong, wasn't 52% of the population that voted to leave.
    The turn out for the referendum was 72%
    37% of the adult population voted to leave the EU in 2016. The rest either voted to say or didn't vote at all

  • @ryanf6530
    @ryanf6530 6 месяцев назад +1

    It's clear that the UK made the right decision to leave the EU. It has a greater level of democratic control over its own laws, borders and money. If you look at poor GDP growth in the EU's major economies, it's clear that the big issue has been the war in Ukraine and high natural gas prices not Brexit.