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Should You Buy The i7 4790 in 2023? - The $40 CPU That Runs Anything
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Today we take a look at Intel's i7-4790, the ultimate budget gaming CPU from 9 years ago that still packs a punch today! Despite its age, this processor offers incredible performance in modern games, making it an absolute steal at just $40. Equipped with Intel's fourth-generation "Haswell" architecture, the i7-4790 features advanced technologies like integrated voltage regulation, and Hyper-Threading making it an 8-core CPU. It may not be overclockable, but its base clock of 3.6GHz and single-core boost up to 4GHz make it a powerhouse for gaming. With impressive results in games like Cyberpunk and Halo Infinite, this CPU proves that age isn't a factor when it comes to gaming performance. Don't miss out on this incredible deal that combines affordability and top-notch gaming capabilities!
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:24 Haswell Architecture Improvements
2:37 Why The 4790 Is Still A GREAT Choice
3:54 Windows 10
4:09 Cinebench R23
4:34 Cyberpunk 2077 1440p Medium
5:11 Crysis Remastered 1440p High
5:42 Valorant 1440p High
6:12 CS:GO 1440p Medium
6:44 Halo Infinite 4k? Low
7:16 GTA V 1440p High
7:41 Beamng.Drive 1440p Normal
8:05 COD Warzone 1440p High
8:34 PUBG 1440p Low
8:58 i7 4790: The Conclusion
10:00 Now Go SUBSCRIBE!
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Hello everybody and today we're gonna be taking a look at one of best budget gaming CPUs out there! Its the i7 4790, and even though it came out 9 years ago its $40 price point and performance in modern games makes it an exceptionally good deal. Were gonna be taking a look at how it holds up in a few different titles, and Ive got the video split up into chapters if you want to skip ahead, but for now weve got to find out what made this processor so good.
The i7-4790, released back in May of 2014, was a part of Intel's fourth-generation “Haswell” processors and was one of the fastest CPUs in the world.
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Whether you were playing games or using it in a workstation, this processor offered enthusiast performance, with enthusiast pricing. Now, Intel used something called the tick-tock model. No, not the app, its a production model that guided their approach to releasing new processors. Essentially, every microarchitecture change was called a tock, and was followed by a die shrink of the process technology, known as a tick. So as part of the tock phase Haswell brought forth a new architecture, but didnt shrink the lithography like ivy bridge did.
As part of this architecture, Intel also released what they called an "integrated voltage regulator" which was placed on the CPU. Previously, the Voltage regulator module, the VRM, was located on the motherboard, but for Haswell intel moved the function to the die which allowed for finer control and more efficient power delivery to the processor.
And the 4790 was sure to take advantage of this, offering top notch performance with a power draw of only 84 watts. Unfortunately you cant overclock this processor, but the K variant, which you can overclock, was the first CPU to have a base clock of 4ghz. The non K variant, the one we have, has a base clock of only 3.6GHz but does have a single core boost up to 4ghz.
Now, there was a bunch of different versions of this processor, namely the 4790 K, S, and T. The K was unlocked and by far the most capable, the non suffixed verison was the base model we have, while the S and T variants came with lower TDPs and subsequently lower clock speeds with worse performance. So, Id recommend staying away from those.
However, they all had 8 mb of L3 cache using Intel smart cache technology. Essentially, it just shared the actual cache memory between all the cores of a multicore CPU. On a related note Haswell was also the first architecture to feature an L4 cache. This was only present on the R variants of a few different CPUs, but goes to show just how advanced the architecture was.
Another feature that made this chip fantastic was the inclusion of Hyper-Threading. This allowed for a single physical processor core to behave like two logical cores by executing multiple software threads simultaneously. This greatly improved multitasking performance, and also CPU intensive tasks that utilzied multiple threads. So even though theres only 4 physical cores, logically it acts like an 8 core.
But, it had competition: AMD's FX series. Now, back in the day I owned a fx 9590 and based on first-hand experience I can say intel had much better offerings. AMD chips, such as the 8350, did offer more quote unquote cores at a lower price point, but the 4790 had better single-threaded performance and overall efficiency. Also AMD got sued over falsely advertising its FX CPUs, so intel was definitely a better choice.
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DO NOT use this product as croutons for a salad...
Don't tell me how to live my life!
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@@PinkyTech😂😂😂😂
well now I wanna do it...
I currently run an i7 4770 with an rtx2060 with 32gb ddr3 and I can confirm that 4th gen still kicks ass.
no botteneck?
@@user-sy5pe6ks2f like 2%
I just ordered a new PSU and a RTX 2060 Super 12GB (yes, that's a thing.) So that will be my build in about a week. The 1050 Ti (best card the stock PSU would support) already punches way above is weight class.
Also upgrading the memory to 32 GB, and replacing the SSD. The one that came with the rig (refurbished Dell Optiplex 9020) sucks- slower than a good HDD.
When I get done, I'll have about $800 into a PC that would cost you twice that at least from one of those custom PC builders. Has all the aesthetics of a concrete block, but who cares? I don't like RGB anyway.
I could spend around $70 for a new triple-fan case and the adapters to put the Dell guts into it, but won't bother unless the new setup has cooling issues. At that point the only thing stock will be the MOBO.
@ostlandr Sounds awesome! It won't disappoint you. I still have my 1050Ti, I installed it in a PC I built for my son, but for some reason Warzone doesn't start. I don't know if it's because of the gpu though.
I run an i3 4th gen with no graphics card and 4gb ram. And I can confirm it kicks my ass
Yup, I bought my i7 4790k nine years ago, and still using it to play starfield and baldur's gate 3. Have a big Noturia fan along with 32GB of DDr3 ram. NVME and few SSD to boot. Nvidia RTX 3060 12 GB does all the hard work.
Run the memory at 2400 Mhz cl11 if possible (@1.65V max). You see a noticeable performance improvement over the "typical" 1600 Mhz RAM frequency, today in modern games.
Nocturia lmao
@@Wushu-vikingразница 2 процента
With 1600 ram speed is worth it upgrading from i5 4570 to i7 4790? I have a non oc motherboard?
@@user-qh2gj9nz8z i7 4790 cant oc so yes
I hope this channel remains reviewing old gaming hardware. There are too many new gaming hardware review channels now and not enough old hardware gaming review channels to see if old hardware can still hold up with modern games. Besides a good sum of people are on a tight budget now given the current economic situation and can only afford to buy old hardware like this, so it helps out a lot .
Totally agree. I am in the middle of another system refurb. Using an i5 4570 as the cpu.
@@computerrefurbishment9748 i just built a system recently based on AMDs AM4. Even going ultra budget for gaming on newer hardware, using a Ryzen 5 5600G, and 16gb of DDR4 3200 ram, it set me back 485 dollars total, that included a B550 mobo, a case and a PSU. Sure i could have built it even cheaper and saved 45 dollars, but i wanted a good PSU. I plan on upgrading to a GPU in 6 months, probably to a Radeon 6650XT, but i didn't want to go over 500 dollars on this build right now. So in the mean time i'll just do some light gaming. My old AMD FX system had to get retired.
It'll stay like this for a long time. If given the option to spend 300 bucks on a new ish budget gpu, or 300 budget on some flagship monstrosity from 2007, I'm choosing the cars from 07. (Plus I'm broke to so don't expect any brand new parts for years)
@@computerrefurbishment9748 I'm still suffering with a i5 4460 😢
@@computerrefurbishment9748 I'm on a i5 4590 and still holds up with everything I throw at it with an RX570 4GB 1080p low/med on most things. Going to pick up a cheap i7 4790 in a couple of days and that will do until I do notice real issues. Entire system with 16GB DDR3 1600, 1TB SSD, 128GB SSD boot drive and a 22" 1080p Dell monitor, £150 (190USD)for the lot.
I recently bought the i7 4770 for €35 to upgrade from an i3 4th-gen in my HP prodesk, works great. Paired with 32gb ram and sata ssd, the PC is flying
Ur looking good
it is flying.. until you find some frame drops
@@khaledahmad7204remember he upgraded from a i3 4th gen, that i7 4770 is going to be a heaven for our man and certainly he ain't going to play games like starfield with this CPU, (maybe😅)
My main PC still has a 4790K @ 4,4 GHz, that I bought back in 2014 when it was released. I have just upgraded RAM to 32 GB, GPU to a 3070, and replaced HDDs with SSDs. I have never before had a CPU last this long.
3070 with 4790k?u play on 4k?
@@care2023 Yes, 4K whenever possible.
Same here but I buyed recently rtx 4070 ti !
I like the processor too, rebuilt one for the kids and one for another kid going into college. But as far as frame rates go even the 12th gen i3 which is pretty cheap, and you can find motherboards reasonably priced, you should pull 40 more frames a second and what you're currently getting.
But where the difference really shows is also 100% faster on processor between that 12th i3 and the same 4th gen i7.
Such a GPU is a waste with that CPU
Love this CPU. I still have my previous computer that I built with the 4790K and it's overclocked to 4.6 GHz all cores with decent temps (water cooled with well vented case).
Had no problem running Cyberpunk 2077 for the first seven months paired with an overclocked GTX 1660ti.
Now it's just my spare computer hooked up to my den TV.
I used a 4790k for years. I loved it. I used it with a Noctua NH-D14 which cooled it brilliantly. It is so good it now cools my 3900X great. Keep up the good work dude!
That's awesome. And thank you, will do
I still use the 4790 to this day, it's safer than the 6 to 11 generation CPUs, doesn't have the Downfall vulnerability later models have. I don't play games, I design games..
I had bought a i7 4790k when it was brand new, I remember that it was a big deal when it was released, had played a lot of witcher 3 with this chip. I had a gtx 780 paired with it as well sheesh times have changed. it had ran hot with even a noctua NH-U12S at 4.4ghz all core oc. its still impressive how that locked chip run games now a days!
I still run the 4790 system that I built in 2016. If it didn't bottle neck the 3080 that I bought last year so bad, I might still use it daily. It's my own couch steam machine today.
I've had this cpu literally a few weeks ago, I've upgraded to 11600kf, it's still a pretty capable CPU but I can definitely feel the difference after upgrading! if you want a no non sense gaming CPU it's a solid choice.
I just got mine from an old work PC and the clock falls to 3.6GHz after a few seconds in Cinebench, no matter my settings in BIOS. I got like 40C temp and it consumes around 32W of power during Cinebench R23, I also got a similar score to yours. I don't quite understand why it consumes so little power and why it always goes down to 3.6GHz. Any suggestions?
This video is so well made, a huge thumbs up! The production is insane, definitely worth more followers, just subscribed to your channel! Hope the RUclips algorithm kicks in soon!
Ay I'm glad you liked the video, really appreciate it. More coming soon :)
I run a pair of E5-2667 v2 (same era, slightly slower top speeds, far bigger Cache) with a GeForce GTC 1070 to this day. Thinking about a GPU upgrade sometime next year, way before I even consider a CPU/Mainboard swap. Excellent CPU generation!
Make sure you get the Intel Chipset drivers, I've found that makes a massive performance improvement with an HDD. The default Windows drivers appear to work ok (and don't report any errors in the device mangler) but the performance difference is huge and VERY noticeable.
Didn't even know about that. Thanks, will do
tell me how
I built my kids the i5 4730k new back in the day. They were very little and are still playing with it today. I paired it with an old 980 ti and seems to be a good fit for their uses. I have considered upgrading it to the 4790k but I am not sure the hyperthreading is really worth it. I personally have a 4930k and with a 1080 ti it still runs games fine for me. I am finally considering upgrading (no avx2), I have gotten into emulation and there are a few emulators that I need more cpu. My old PS3 and Xbox 360 have died on me finally.
I built a Core i7-4790K system 7 years ago and it's still my daily driver. I have a Core i7-8700K as my gamer now but this 4th Gen just keeps on kickin' it! If it ain't broke - Don't mess with it!
Great vid! Thank you for creating & posting it. I’m finishing a 13th gen i3/ AMD 7600/Windows 11 build for my son this week. His current hand-me-down system (i3-4130/AMD 6600/Windows 10) will be the guest pc or for us to game together while sitting next to each other. I’m considering upgrading the CPU for his old system after I finish the new one for him, so this here is exactly the video I was looking for.
Glad you liked the video! A 4790 would definitely be a good upgrade for that 4130 system. The i3 is still decent, but the 4790 is flawless in day to day tasks, and capable at gaming
Another important benefit of haswell is that they were the 1st generation to support avx 2 instructions unlike the previous gens. This will make this gen age much better in my opinion.
Very nice review though I believe that your planned upgrade to an SSD is really necessary. I briefly used a HDD in a secondary PC that have with an i7 920 @4Ghz and it was a constant bottleneck even when I downloaded simple programs.
Yep for modern games and emulation a great cpu.
I still run an i7 4770.
16 gigs ram
Rx 580
DayZ
Beamng
GTA v
Rdr2
It still does what I need. Pretty robust generation of hardware albeit quite dated.
@@rockandrollemergency 4770 к _4400 _16 gb 2400 .11.13.13 _6800 xt _ 4 k ,I'm not even thinking about changing the processor!
On the cooler, old HP system motherboards don't use a standard mounting size for the cpu cooler. The G1 Tower has a larger (flat, fan on top) cooler that uses the same mounting. It was proprietary (non ATX) along with the rest of the motherboard. The tower also used a case exhaust fan. You will need to find another board if you want to upgrade cooler and power supply. It also dose not have the options to overclock. Still they were built to run all day for years on end in a business environment. I just retired my HP G1 800 I7 4790 tower last week.
Up until last week, I have been using a 4790k, which I had upgraded from a 4790 about four years ago. It has lasted many years for me. It has been almost a decade. Previously, I had an FX-8350. When I switched, I upgraded the motherboard, with one that had a built-in NVME drive. I then got a BlackMagic card, so I could record from the 4790 machine.
I have a 4790k on a z97 motherboard running with 32GB of DDR3-2400 cl11 RAM in XMP, and a RTX 4070 video card. It run all my games easily at 4K resolution in High to Max. settings at 60 fps. By example I have almost constant 60 fps in Cyberpunk 2077 with DLSS on Quality Mode. Same constant 60 fps in Far Cry 6 and other games.
I bought a Devil's Canyon, Z97 mobo, and 32 Gb ddr3 near a decade ago to upgrade an older system and have had zero problems with it since assembly. I did add a 2080 a few years later. Some games I can play in 4k with setting all the way up, others I have to use a lower setting. But I've yet to find a game or app I can't run smoothly.
I once got a Dell Tower with a i3 4170 cpu and I put in a 4790 cpu and it was thermal throttling. I did a bit of research and Dell put a smaller/weaker fan on the i3 cooler than the i7, they used the same heat sink. I put a bigger/better fan on the heat sink and temps lowered with no more throttling.
Bro we have same system with dell tower with i3 4170 but I am going to buy 4790 , would you recommend me to buy it , please share your opinion.
You didn't ask my opinion if that ship except the motherboard that you have that is a well investment especially if you're getting a more powerful air cooler consider even getting the 4790k I have a Dell 3090 optiplex with a 1660 super I play triple games all the time with a 700 watt PSU Overkill but I didn't want to have any issues if I wanted to upgrade in a future
Nice video, subbed. I've really enjoyed this generation. Currently have on my second rig this CPU and am about to throw it in a Silverstone rvn02 with blower Rtx 2080, nvme 2Tb 970 Evo. I've played Assassin's Creed Origins maxed out at 1440p on this rig, good stuff. I think as DLSS keeps getting better, hardware requirements should keep going down. Anyways, go re-up building, better for the environment and just fun.
What a video, honestly if I didn't look at the sub count, I'd think you have at least 200k. Well done man
Keep building up your rig, getting more solid test results and you'll have tons of subscribers. You present well
Thank you & will do. Glad you enjoyed the video
got mine in a $20 HP 800 SFF rig w/ all new peripherals, threw in 16gb cl9 ram, an ssd, and a sff gtx 1650 (no bottleneck until u go 6600/3060). works great for mid tier gaming. runs windows 11 just fine w/ one registry hack
I have a question. I'm still pretty new to computer hardware. Is the CPU and GPU not running at 100% at 4:35 a thermal issue or Cyberpunks bad optimization
I believe that would be more of an optimization issue. Typically when devices get to hot they decrease clock speeds to consume less power and output less heat. Don't quote me on that though
I have a LGA 1150 motherboard and my current CPU is the i5-4570. should I get this CPU you showcased in this video?
Watching this and doing all my video editing with a i7-4790, this CPU was worth every penny but after all these years I think it's time for an upgrade. Right now I'm looking for a decent and cheap setup with new CPU, Motherboard, GPU card, any combo suggestions for these 3 things would be welcome, thanks.
did the same upgrade from a 4130 to a 4790 on my main pc. LIFE CHANGING. buying a new gpu today.
Ooh nice. Moving up in the PC hardware world
Just as a point of comparison to your 4277 CB23 Score (due to 3.6Ghz all core), I just ran CB R23.2 on my 4790K, running at 4.6Ghz all core @1.23V (since 2015 - same solid OC setup) with Kingston 1866 DDR3 Ram (CL10), and I got a score of 5596 (priority normal for CB) and 5695 (priority Realtime for CB). So, there is actually a lot of headroom in the 4790K SKU compared to the non-K SKU with a small cooler. Its now my daughter/family PC since I built my 7800X3D PC recently, and I still find it very responsive (highly optimized bloat free Windows 10) and usable in games paired with my trusty EVGA FTW3 1080Ti. I also tested the 4790K system with 4090 (for science), and most games it could play fine enough at 4K60Hz on my OLED TV, but obviously the 4090 was barely pushed in most games even at 4K with the 4790K. Still, its served me well over the years and continues to do so as a family/kids PC.
Amazing Video!!! What Software do you use to display the framerates as well as the GPU and CPU usage while in game?
fpsmon. It costs money though, but MSI Afterburner is free
How do you get past the min spec on games on steam?? Cyberpunk 2077 min is Core i7-6700. I have an i7-4770 and steam tells me computer doesnt meet specs. I have an rtx3060 also.
Hey man if your capture card is causing problems with tearing win 10 has built in screen recorder I think the shortcut is win+shift+r it may impact performance a bit but I don't think it'll cause tearing
Don't really wana record locally though, can impact performance
I'm running i5 4690k at 4.2GHz + GTX1060 and in CS2 I get drops below 100 FPS and my Low 1% FPS is not pleasant. I wonder if upgrading to i7 4790k would help me with these drops or the better option is to stay with my i5 4690k and replace my 1060 with 2060 or similar.
Same processor here and the best solution the overheating or thermal throttling is to delid and replace the hardened TIM similar to normal thermal paste (not STIM). you can use any thermal paste or branded thermal paste, but as for me, I used liquid metal and added the IHS back.
Test: ambient temp is 30C | Snowman MT6S dual fan 6 heatpipe tower
Before delid: idle around 45C to 50C | Premiere pro, Prime 95, Cinebech R23 will go beyond 100C quickly
After Delid: idle 35C | Premiere Pro and Cinebench R23 - 65C | Prime 95 - 75C
50C is normal temperature
@@Steve-mp7by not in idle
I have had mine for 9 years, mines 4790k hopefully it will still be ok for starfeild either way i got my moneys worth out of this and have overclocked it to 4.6ghz
Good Video. Is There A "Best" Motherboard For This CPU? I Would Like To Move Up From The One I Have. Thank You.
Good vid!! Haswell was a massive improvement over Ivy Bridge, not only in core architecture and efficiency but we also got AVX2 instructions, crucial for many modern titles
RUclips commenter suddenly faced with Name game that uses avx2 challenge can’t answer and deletes account in shame
@@threesixtydegreeorbits2047 ....what?
Ive been running my 4790k for years now. I got it back in 2020 for around $60. I have it paired with a 1080ti and 32gb of RAM. Theres a little bit of bottleneck but im able to play games like Cyberpunk, Baldurs Gate 3 and FF7:R with no issues.
Thnaks for this awesome video. I appreciate all your work.
Ay glad you liked it
Not sure if it counts for the refresh models, but Haswell original has a micro code bug allowing overclocking on non k models. Haven't achieved it on my gt70, but i have read a handful of posts on forums of people achieving over 4ghz on 4700mq.
I'm gonna look into that. Sounds awesome
hey bro ,great video , i have i5 4690k on a hp workstation should i upgrade to i7 4790 . worth it or not .
which card will be better pair for xeon e3 1230 v3 { same as i7 4790} rtx 2060super or gtx 1660 super and i only have ddr 1600mhz ram in my pc
What a big coincidence!! From my various gigs, I'm writing this comment with the one that has this boy inside. Still paired with the old GTX 980 Titan, Asus Z97pro wifi mobo, Samsung 850pro 1T, 32gigs of Geil RAM. Up until now NO problems whatsoever. Had to replace PSU 2 years ago.
My newest setup with a i9-13700k, 64 gigs of RAM, Gigabyte RTX 3080Ti, ROG Strix Z790-A Wifi, 2T Samsung nvme SSD, 1000W Coolermaster PSU altogether didn't even cost half the money than that old one...
What's the software used for performance overlay here?
what would you recommend for better cooling on CPU i7 4790?
I recently redid two pcs with a 4790k and a 4770. Both were delidded and i used noctua 2nd gen paste. They both pull 100% at around 165. It's a good processor if you're going to do some basic computer tasks.
Keep making videos like this , enjoyed watching
Will do, glad you enjoyed
Im still running my 2014 I7 5960x . Its still going strong 9 years later. My main gaming system has a 5800x3d . The 5960x is in my livingroom PC where i game at 1080p on my TV set with my steam controller.
haswell also uses thermal compound for thermal coupling the IHS and with its age that thermal compound will probably needs some retouch
I delidded my 4790k and applied some thermal paste inside the IHS and it dropped up to 20 degrees C from peak! Thats running it overclocked at 4.8Ghz as well.
Running the Bench option in CPU-Z, i get 535 points single thread, 2700 points in multi thread. For comparisons sake, my laptop with a 12th Gen i7-1265u gets 668/4560 points respectively.
The thermal problems with the Haswell CPU's was mostly due to a cheap thermal paste used inside the IHS and many enthusiasts were actually delidding them and swapping the paste to liquid metal (myself included) which reduced the temps almost 20 degrees.
You definitely don't need to use more thermal paste though, you already used too much.
Mine has the stock air cooler (Dell Optiplex 9020) with an upgraded Noctua fan, and it just doesn't get hot. I just upgraded the processor and very carefully used good thermal paste though.
This problem was corrected by Haswell Refresh, replacing it with a higher quality paste. 4790 and 4690 are Haswell refreshes, like many xeons for socket 1150 (for example, xeon 1241v3)
@@icewater4723 Can't say that's entirely true. My 4690K ran quite hot and replacing the paste with liquid metal brought down the temps by 15 degrees. Everyone was delidding their Haswells back then, refresh or not.
@@Remu- Definitely liquid metal will be better. The first Haswells generally had overheating problems, but the Haswell Refresh was a little better. Intel called the new thermal paste "T.I.M." It was better than on the old Haswells, but this, of course, was marketing and it was far from Artik MX4, not to mention liquid metal.
I only use 10oz of cpu grease on my pc!!! lol So, what is the metrics overlay software that you use for benchmarking? FYI : The 2060 series of nvidia gpus are a good match for the i7470. I currently have a 1060 6gb- a more economic and lighter tdp option. The RX 5700 xt is not bad either but high tdp.
Yeaah used a bit to much paste. Also the software I used was fpsmon
i ran the i7-4790 for a long time i loved it i paired it with a FE GTX980 and it slayed so many games its still a very good option, but for near the same money you can get an HPz440 and slowly upgrade it for dollars and you will have a very nice rig, my current rig is a HP z440 with a E5-2699v3 which is equal to a i7-10700 and the cpu costed me 43$ the desktop was 80$ i bought a ram kit a 16x4 64gb kit at 2133mhz for 60$ and i tossed in a 2080ti and i can play anything on ultra 1440p with over 100 fps in most titles, but the best part about the z440 is its upgrade path is enormous you can go up to v4 xeons and get 2400mhz ram and make it a tank! Great vid would love to see more!
Your computer build sounds awesome, may have to steal that idea.. And glad you liked the video!
Still using my 4790k alongside a more recent 3090. Probably should upgrade but so far it runs new games flawlessly at 60-120fps 4k which is all I need it to do
A 4790k and a 3090? That is a wild combination but you know what.. it kinda makes sense
@@Jaindike At higher resolutions like 4k it's been documented that a pairing like this actually doesn't bottleneck too much. At 1080p or less it'd be noticeable though. Many of the bigger tech channels on YT have talked about it.
Haswell brought a major set of new instructions... primarily AVX2 but also gather, BMI1,2, ABM and FMA3
Later architectures bring AVX512 - but with rather patchy support
And of course, who can forget POPCNT (can it run Apex Legends), introduced with AMD FX and Intel 1st gen
I have one 4770, 4770k and 4790k they all run things just fine. I have a few newer machines but three get used every weekend.
Can the i7 4790 with it's onboard graphics work wekk with a 1440p monitor? just for youtube and twitch viewing.
Yep! It should be capable enough for that
I am still using my 4790K today and it is mainly for music production. But I run mine at 4,8GHZ (ALL CORES No Turbo) with extremely tight memory timings. usually a 4790K will not turbo when all cores are loaded but the way I overclock I have it configured with 4,8Ghz as the standard speed and then it will still run at this speed with all cores fully loaded. I have it Lapped and undervolted to keep the TJ below 80C at all times to run in this speed even then it pulls up to 130+ (I have a Dark rock PRO 3 air cooler) watts but it is a problem with the built in voltage regulator making it impossible to run it at this speed without Intel Extreme Tuning utility and this is a huge problem in itself because I cannot find a windows 10 compatible version that works with my system so I am stuck with win7. But I can guarantee that I have amongst the highest performing 4790K in the world in this config in 2024. Even though it have a tough life running 4 screens and heavy live rendering
im still using my i7 3770k sadly my motherboard cant support overclocking which is its stock boost clock into 3.8mhz i paired it on rx 580 8gb 2304sp clocked by 1400mhz core and 2100mhz mem its still great in 2024 seeing the fastest 3rdgen intel is great old gen must be still having videos like this because of budget or just great deal on build
Been running the K version with a 2060 since 2060, and it's done well with whatever I've thrown at it at 1080p, even if newer releases have not been kind (Says me who pretty much plays older games, hoi4 and football manager these days XD ). Obvious CPU body-hitters like Cyberpunk and Ubisoft games did make it struggle to keep up (Even we happy few these days is hitting it harder than the graphics which is... Confusing), but it's good to see older hardware can still keep up.
You could've delidded the processor and replaced the thermal paste inside the die, that should get rid of the throttling issue. Older Intel CPU's were known for their thermal paste degredation, which your 4790 surely has since it’s a 9 year old CPU. This is also why delidding became popular with Intel CPU's.
Yep, sometimes higher watts tdp degrates quicker than lower tdp
@@AntiGrieferGames That’s not the point, the point is that your results could’ve shifted differently if you decided to delid the CPU. Speaking from experience, I tried that years ago with my 5 year old 7700K which was throttling like crazy and I just thought maybe it’s reaching its end of life. But it had a second life and was in pristine condition after I delidded, performance was just like out of the factory.
I'll look into that, think it could solve some of issues. Thanks
I had my OG build that lasted forever. i54690k 8GBRam GTX 970 Right when call of duty battle royal came out thats when it tapped out my build. Still have her for media streaming and emulators in the house.
My son plays on my old ddr3 machine. 4790 locked with a gtx 1060 6 gig. He's playing starfeild right now. It's a little grainy but it doesn't stutter or anything.
That's not a bad little machine. Fantastic little starter machine
Those temps are normal? im running the same CPU in a SFF machine (stock cooler) ;=)
The place of production may be important. I have the Malaysian and Vietnamese versions. Vietnam for some reason has temperatures 10-15 degrees lower... I also read that the Vietnamese version with the K extension has greater potential.
I have the 4790K, i built my PC in 2014 & i still use it everyday, still runs everything with no issues, never even changed the thermal paste, i plan to build a monster pc next year so this cpu would have lasted me a decade!
IM STILL USING THE 4790k TOO BRO! i need to repaste bc now my temps are getting higher but this thing has ran non stop like a f***ing champion. still runs basically any game i need to, although i dont get 1440p 144fps most of the time (still running a rx 580 4gb and 16gb ddr3). honestly legendary cpu. i dont wanna upgrade till i really need to haha
I'm using the same Cpu with 16gb ddr3 ram in a bog standard dell. Just added a 1060gtx and a hand full of old ssd drives. And to be honest I only have a 60hz screen and most games run at over 60fps. So really I can't be more happy with it. You don't need a whole lot to play games. Might upgrade the 1060 to a 2060 or 2080 or something like that in the future. I'm only a casual gamer today so it's perfectly fine :)
Aside from my son's PC which runs modern Ryzen hardware, every PC in my house runs older hardware with SSDs.
My PC - Intel Xeon E5-1650 w/GTX 1060, Daughter PC - i7-4770 w/RX 580, HTPC - i7-4790 w/ GTX 1660 Super.
They all still scream along and serve us well. Love Intel 4th gen.
1 little trick is that you could use z87/97 mobo to lock the boost freq to all 4 cores on the i7. that could squeeze out a bit more performance
Ooh I did not know that. Thanks
This channel deserves more subscribers. Go ahead. Great content.
Ay thanks man. Appreciate it
Well,my PC at home is i7-6700k with a upgraded RTX3060TI(former is GTX970),NOW play all 3A games well on 1080P resolution..
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Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm running starfield on an I7-4770k at 1080 no problem at all. I thought for sure I needed 6 cores to run it, but I only needed to update my video card. Got a 6600XT, but it seems like that is overkill as well. Runs on ultra for most settings. I'm not a FPS nerd, so I don't know or care, but the game runs just fine. Loading screens are not any longer than FO4 or Skyrim.
What NVIDIA graphics card can be put on the i7 4770 at most so that it does not create a bottleneck or not so much?
by the look of temps, i bet termal paste between cpu diode and IHS is in need of replacing, you should delit it.
A couple years ago, I upgraded my system to a Dell Optiplex 7020, which seems to be the standard for el cheapo builds. It and a GTX 970 runs pretty much everything I need in spite of their age, and that includes the emulation of systems like the Playstation 2 and GameCube.
I would recommend getting Haswell xeons, since they are cheaper yet work on almost all motherboards. I snatched up a Xeon E3 1241 v3 (equivalent of an i7 4770) for only $20. Pair that with 16gb of DDR3 ($15) and an RX580 ($50) and you have the best price to performance ever.
Definitely will check those out, thanks!
Great video! What do you think about upgrading from an FX8320 to an i7 8700k? I've had my FX8320 based PC since mid 2020 that was gifted to me. I recently saw a listing on my local Offerup that has an 8700k computer for $300. It comes with everything except the power supply and hard drive(s). The GPU is a 1060 6GB blower style and it has 16GB of RAM. It seems like a good deal after I looked up the cost of the CPU, GPU, and motherboard. Then add the RAM, case, and AIO cooler to the price on top of everything else.
I do think that's a decent price for the system, I'd be hard pressed to find those parts for cheaper.
i7 8700k is a great CPU even now.
Bro an i7 8700k do your research it will not lie to you grab that CPU that is an amazing CPU
I think i7 Haswell would still have some punch for years to come.
Yes it's nearly obsolete and almost irrelevant for the latest GPUs but if you see it from price stand point i think you could build a maximum spec PC with minimum budget.
If you think 4th gen Core i7 is cheap enough then try to look for its closest siblings: Xeon.
For certain model the pricing is ridiculously low that would make the price - performance factor even better.
For example: i managed to grab a Xeon E3 1265L v3 from Aliexpress for USD 25; FYI, this particular Xeon is similar to i 4770T 45W tdp that priced around 50 USD in Indonesian market.
DDR3 modules are also dirt cheap, 30-35 USD for total 32GB.
Pair those Xeon, DDR3 with office PC such as HP ProDesk 600/800 G1 and you'll have a decent platform that could handle upto 160W graphics card (undervolted gtx1070 or rtx2060-3060) using original 320W psu. Nice.
My recent build (Xeon 4C/8T + DDR3 32GB + ssd + HP ProDesk + RTX 2060) only cost me USD 225; all grabbed in 2nd-hand market.
In my opinion, Haswell is still a strong contender for low budget powerful system because of its great availability in cheap parts.
Though some games you will also get a considerable amount of stuttering too depending on what you play and some games are asking for better CPU as min requirement...
Anyway last year still under the pandemic I bought a Asus Sabertooth Z77 + I7 3770K + 2x8 GB DDR3 + Nvidia GT730 for 150€ which for Europe was a nice price since just the CPU was around 100€ but it's not like the PC was worth much at all other than the motherboard which I love the old Sabertooth...
Still running a delidded 4.8ghz 4790k with a 5700xt. GPU busy shows perfect sync in all the games I play, I've even got a bit of headroom. I still see myself using it for another Year or two. Best value part that I've ever bought- never had a PC part last so long!
That 4790 is running very hot- I have a regular 4790 in my backup pc and it never gets above 65 under load with a cheap air cooler.
Pretty solid built you got there. The i7 4790 is awesome
And yeaaah, I definetly need new cooler
I have a i5-4460 + gtx960 + 550w psu, if i upgrade to i7-4790k + gtx1660 super, is the 550w psu enough to supply?
I think that should be enough. I'd recommend using an online power supply calculator though
Im not a gamer that much but I have a i7 4790 paired with 32gb ram and 1080ti doing video editing and vfx and I may say this is still a beast!
Didn't expect it to hold up that well with VFX, nice
4790 with id cooling tower cooler from amazon is solid, it keeps it cool no problem. 20$. Paired with a 1070ti or a comparable card is a golden combo that can give you solid 1080p gaming.
My 4790k + 2080ti still performs reasonably well these days.
mine has been used very thoroughly for 9 years and it still going strong
Nice. As long as it's running cool it's going to last for years to come
I have the i7-4790s, it was in an old thinkcentry e73z AIO from my mother's friend who's company was giving them away or something, I ended up getting this in like 2019 and now I'm thinking to buy some power supply and Frankenstein a gpu outside of it using a pcie riser xd
Wait.. you can use a external psu for the GPU?, I've tryed it also, But everytime i play games my display just blank after a while, just for browsing it's blank again, but.. the cpu fan, pc fan, internal psu fan, and vga fan and external psu fan also running, can you help me?🙏
I've never had that issue. I bought a 24 pin connector with a switch to turn the psu on, and simply connect its pcie power to the gpu. Works like a charm with any system
@@Jaindike I see then i try your Tips next time, Thank You 👍
running the 4790 non k on a MSI z97 PCMate mobo you can actually oc it to run 4ghz turbo all core. my wife runs this with 32gb @2400mhz and a MSI GTX 1070 seahawk x
Thanks for sharing. I have a i7-4770. I've been impressed with my gaming experience. How did Intel lose their lead over AMD? These older quad cores were phenomenal.
While games bottlenecked on a single thread, and Intel has superior single-thread performance, this was true.
AMD at the time had trash architecture and so-so single-thread performance.
Look up what AMD was offering around this time. The FX chips were absolute garbage.
I have an old 4790k system that was built with a mid range mobo. I can't even find a replacement mobo with similar specs, much less any improvement. Fast overclocking memory is hard to find, and almost always grossly expensive. If all you want is a basic 4790k system, it can be cheap, but value goes way out the window of you want premium mobo or memory.
My high school threw away a lenovo thinkcentre desktop m73 i pulled the motherboard and it worked, it came with all that you needed a hdd the ram everything worked it has an i5 4590 wich has the same tdp has a i7 4790 I also grabed the psu that the pc had wich for some odd reason it was sticked with industrial grade adhesive I needed 3 people to pull form it so that the adhesive finally came loose, and I took the power button because i actually didn't know the model of the computer until i saw the name in the bios and searching for the motherboard by itself didn't yield any results I'm planing on grabing a cheap normal atx 500w psu and using a 24pin to 14 pin adapter this is because the psu that came with the computer only has a 14 pin conection and a cpu power conector and what I'm planing is pairing an i7 4790 with an RX 580 form sjs it would end up costing 142€ wich seems a good deal for a computer with a rx580 and a i7 4790 and a 500w psu and i'm also putting a new cpu cooler because I don't trust the one that came with the computer to be able fend off an i7 4790. Granted I got half of the pc for free but well sometimes luck is actually in your favor
I'm running a 4790 with a Noctua nhd15, while it struggles in some games higher settings, it is still smashing it in 2023. I want to upgrade, but I'm in no rush
Same im still using i7 4790 + rx6600xt if ever my cpu will die what will the best replacement for it " Budget gaming cpu" TYIA
It's a great CPU, especially for the price. My 4790k was $30 more than yours but it was worth it for that 4.6GHz overclock they all seem capable of without touching the voltages. I have no regrets bottlenecking my second hand 3070 with it
What cinebench R15 results do you get at 4.6? just curious
In Cinebench R23 I got 4619 stock. Running it at 4.6 brought it up to 5300. Are the scores compatible across Cinebench versions?
I did manage to reach 5600 at an all core of 4.7 but while it would finish Cinebench every time, it would crash in games after about 15 minutes even with a little extra voltage. I don't know enough about OCing to make it stable there so I stuck with 4.6
@@NoName5589 thank ya!
Yup, 4.6GHz all core overclock with decent temps.
My top score on cinebench r23 for multi core is 5538 at overclock of 4.6 all core at 1.3 v for 4790k
I currently have a i5-4690k and was wondering if it bottlenecks my rtx 3060. I think it does but I was thinking of upgrading to the i7 4790 or the k version of it. Could you give me your opinion on this please🙏
I mostly play cyberpunk 2077 but I see my cpu hitting 100% usages all the time and just wanna make sure I'm using full capability of my rtx 3060 if it is being bottlenecked.
get the i7 4790 & never look back it has a gold standard reputation
I had a 4790k and a gtx 980 in my pc back then. It was the first pc i got myself where i decided on the parts myself (before that i bought prebuilts and laptops in stores).
Nowadays i only build myself btw
I have about a dozen computers of different ages, and at least three of them are Haswells. Old AF and runs great!! One is in my iMac, one is my CentOS box, and one for the grand kids to play on.