Cyberpunk 2077 David Vs V (Explained)
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- Опубликовано: 28 окт 2022
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Cyberpunk 2077 is an open-world, action-adventure story set in Night City, a megalopolis obsessed with power, glamour and body modification. You play as V, a mercenary outlaw going after a one-of-a-kind implant that is the key to immortality. You can customize your character’s cyberware, skillset and playstyle, and explore a vast city where the choices you make shape the story and the world around you.
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V vs Maine/David's crew.
@@intoodeep3808 I’ll work on this after the next VS video! Got this request roughly 3x now.
V takes Speed
Literally it's the same thingLiterally the same thing I'm gonna say twice just you understand He's gonna be the same no matter what
They’re the same Adam smasher lmao
endgame V is strong af and can clap smasher and david like flies
Martinez and David are the same people but I agree as the video shows 😅
@@sandevastated1 oof i miss tapped names i wanted to say about smasher
V can clap nerfed Adam Smasher, Adam Smasher in the game is a joke, hes so much weaker than displayed in every other piece of media hes in I dont think V would be able to kill Adam Smasher in all honesty
@@maderator3672 Adam smasher in anime is 10x stronger than in game and ingame boss is joke
@@maderator3672 on the lore smasher is the same shit plus if you dont upgrade rightly fight can take like minutes 3? Or 5
A man that fucks up arasaka only comes around every 50 years.
600th
too bad that Johnny did not fuck up Arasaka alone. It was a militech funded operation with Morgan Blackhand as the leader
@@johnnywalker3862 somebody brushed up on their lore I see. Honestly I love the implication that Johnny either hated Morgan Blackhand or was so self absorbed he never thinks about him and so he doesn't come up. Also the implications of potential false memories.
@@davidbright6117 Most probably, Arasaka edited his engram in order to remove any evidence related to Morgan Blackhand and Militech. Maybe with the phantom liberty DLC, some parts in cyberpunk story will be revealed to us.
@@johnnywalker3862 honestly I completely agree and I hope that is the case. I think that would be absolutely badass. I'm super hyped for the dlc and I hope they give us lots of juicy details to sink my teeth into
V is what David thought he was
that's cold
He really be "that guy"
damn TRUE
V is a little bitch pushover tf you mean
And v doesn't even think that he is special he just doin his things
V is a schizophrenic demigod of the cyberpunk universe
He is not schizophrenic , Johnny's personality really is in his head bcz of the relic and other people heard johnny too
@@atif45602 depending on how you play V might be shizophrenic 😂😂
The no bitches is cap, pulled Panam harder than Johnny pulled Vs life out of his brain.
V gets way more bitches than David fr, Panam, Kerry, Judy, River, stout, ect so yeah it’s a massive cap
Same
He can romance any female and some other guy
DAMN
Also, Meredith he slept with for an epic blunt weapon
You're putting a teenager up against cyberpunk 2077's version of jesus
Teenager who was bio-enhanced out the ass, yes.
By the end David was so bio-enhanced that he literally looked like a whole ass adult.
Also from what we know cyber-psychosis does not discriminate
@@TheBigLime111 well seeing how cyberpsychosis is shown in the game + V can have a quickhack to cause cyberpsychosis i doubt V would go cyberpsycho hes just op
@@biulixerv cant go cyberpsycho cause of the bio chip
@@ritodaman yeah hes juet op
V can solo David and his team while being sick and having an attack from the fragment
@@astek.lenartowicz true
If david wasnt exhausted, he could have won againts smasher,
@@christopherlormant8083 Maybe last longer but winning? Adam wasn't even taking it seriously.
@@christopherlormant8083 wank cope and seethe fanboy
@@christopherlormant8083 nope
I love David, but let's be real...V is a damn solo and is stronger than David's whole crew combined...especially being a Netrunner too. He/she accomplishes way more impressive feats like beating Adam Smasher alone, fighting whole gangs alone (defeating leaders like Royce, Sasquatch, Tyger bosses), taking down 17 cyberpsychos ALONE, capable of breaking into Mikoshi ALONE, going beyond the blackwall and surviving, winning all the street fights in the city, being able to chrome literally anything and not go crazy, and most importantly being able to come back to life with the relic chip. (Examples include the headshot from Dexter and Placide flatlining V remotely only for Johnny to rez V).
V getting clapped twice only to come back from the grave twice 😂
Like it’s really difficult to imagine a bad ending for V. Where as David was destined for a bad ending.
@@teamnecrocasters2210 "But...but...muh big anime explosions!" - the anime dickriders probably.
@@teamnecrocasters2210 David was strong, but he was constantly playing with his limits, so when he met someone capable of the same achievements without hitting his limits (Adam Smasher), he couldn't possibly win.
@@teamnecrocasters2210 I mean the bad ending for V is they just kill themself 🤓🤓🤓🤓-me
V in anime would be so much better, imagine the fight with smasher.. Game bossfight was dogshit💀
It’s not that David is weak, It’s just that V is that much better.
Weaker in game or not, V still canonically obliterated Smasher.
David A/S Tier, V god tier in cyberpunk verse
Not only did he Adam smash Adam smasher he did while actively dying for silverhandosis
@@collincaperton6718and he did it easily 😅 I take down Adam while my level is around u30
ngl Smasher at end game was a joke - even with 2.1 update - they cuda done our boy Smasher a lot tougher LOL A shame he went down so easy by V ngl
@@BigLDmy guy 2.1 buffed him significantly. He has a sandy now, moves just as fast as you with one when he activates it, forces netrunners to do physical damage or else their cyberdeck gets deactivated, can't take damage while switching phases, gets up in your face more, and buffed damage and health. Try on very hard don't fear the reaper, he can one shot you on that, even if the fights easy, you can't afford to get hit anymore, and it takes a lot longer than before. If you really think it's too easy, fight him with the eonc mod enabled.
V is literally two NC legend's in one single body
David needed the Cyberskeleton to break into Arasaka, and even so, he was only able to hold off Adam Smasher for a short time before getting stomped. V just rolled up and flattened everyone in the building, INCLUDING Smasher.
Facts niggas keep forgetting that
Yeah. Like I think everyone kinda overlooks how David *NEEDED* that cyberskeleton just to deal with the militech attack squad out in the badlands, never mind fighting smasher. V steamrolls militech compounds then charged arasaka, potentially alone, and soloed smasher with possibly nothing more than kiroshi optics, a decent ballistic compressor, and a basic cyberdeck. If they chromed out more then it get even easier for them. But at minimum they only had those three things.
@@nikik5567maybe it's because he was a teenager clearly out of his league? David was a street kid with a talent for cyberware.
@@spaceman6_6 V is canonically like five years older than David, not twenty years older. This isn’t some “different worlds” comparison. David is 17 when the show starts, 18 by the time he storms the tower in the cyber skeleton. V is 23, that’s not enough of an age gap to matter in this context. Also, V is a streetkid, nomad, or former corpo. None of those backgrounds give him any kind of intrinsic edge over David.
@@nikik5567V is 27 according to 2.0 patch
Just one note. V is a Solo, not because V necessarily wants it, just because no one wants to cross V's way. If you speak with Rogue with no missions, and ask her for jobs, she'll say that when V tried teamwork, everyone died, including Saburo, but V survived, stole the Relic and escaped the one of the most powerful and dangerous company in the world, got a shot on head by Dex, survived and "Killed" him (Yeah, it was Takemura but no one knows it in Afterlife). Literally no one wants to mess with V, there are no gigs and jobs on V's level... V's case/story is hella similar to Morgan Blackhand's story on this aspect
also explains why every fixer in town is so inclined and friendly to V, especially compared to how we see fixers act in the show.
V is an absolute powerhouse, that will complete the job no matter what, and absolutely annihilate you if you dare try to fuck them over.
for me it's partially because V is dying, so they are essentially constantly in a milder version of this "panic mode" all humans go into in dangerous situations, your eye temporarily take everything in instead of filtering useless information, your body ignore it's own limits for the sake of survival (there have been cases of everyday people casually lifting a car while hurt to save someone, and not even flinch.)
even behaving in groups becomes easy, the twin towers evacuation ? wasn't some kind of chaotic mess, sure there were a few people who fell and stuff, but overall it was an extremely fast pace yet spontaneously organized evacuation.
Wakako knows what happened to dex
@@suserano7566 that’s besides the point. There are still plenty of other reasons why people don’t want to mess with V.
That’s not what a solo means. David is a solo, so his Rebecca and Maine. Being a solo doesn’t mean working by yourself, they’re called that because they’re essentially one man armies. Solos are the combat specialists in Cyberpunk.
@@zachrobinson6801 "Being a solo doesn’t mean working by yourself" going off 2020 tabletop Solo does mean the individual is capable of working by themselves. You don't need to setup an entire chain of command for them or have middlemen or stuff. You hand them over a job and they are expected to do it. Also they often do not align themselves to any gang or fixer thus called solo.
Does this mean they'll always work alone? obviously not but they are absolutely capable of it
Theoretically, depending on your playthrough, V could solo all of Arasaka tower including Adam Smasher, while having nothing more than a Kiroshi Eye cybernetic implant. And they’re doing this while nerfed by the relic lmao
That’s how I did it. I basically played Cyberpunk 2077 like Doom Eternal - hot swapping between shotgun, rifle, and pistol
My thoughts for my first playthrough were basically “IM A HUMAN, AND IM COMIN”
@@wisemankugelmemicus1701 "I got places to go, and legs to go there, and nothing will stop me."
@@ledocteur7701 CORRECT
Adam Smasher more like Adam Dickrider lmaooo
Don't forget the Ballistic Coprocessor. New sight AND grip.
There’s the good and bad because of the relic.
The good being he has access to “resurrecting” when Dex and Placide try to zero him. He also has knowledge and information from Johnny, even though we find out some of it is unreliable.
Bad being his sick, and the damn thing is killing them.
V is literally like a more op version of David's whole crew combined... Like
Lucy: netrunner
David: fast sandevistan and crime guy....
Rebecca: heavy duty weaponry
V: literally all of that but even stronger
David: I can only use Sandevistan twice a day
V: wanna see me do it 30 times in 2 minutes
David used it 10 times in 1 day in the first episode he has a high tolerance for cybernetic enhancements
@@PolygonV2... Damn... V can use it every 5 minutes
@@t8kabr8km85 wanna see me do it again?
@@yuudaitamako1467 man the cooldown is 2sec for V's sandevistan
David: i'm built different
V: haha............quickhack goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
V: your funny ‘deploys end yourself quickhack’
Well technically v (male or female) has many love interest lol
Yeah but before the end even if youve done the sidequests, V feels alone, like they dont belong anywhere really, like they have no family, nomad ending is about the only ending where V really has a true connection with people
@@Lle_Bbobby_Sur true that's also why that's the only ending I went for since it seemed the happiest dispite still seeming sad at the same time
@@Lle_Bbobby_Sur Finally someone said it
@@sandevastated1 I mean it’s not so bad. If you choose the right options for the glory ending, V and his love interest are only going on a temporary break. Better than being dead lol
@@Lle_Bbobby_Sur I play with male V, although I love the "don't fear the reaper" ending, I think V's is happy in "the sun" ending, he found a family and Panam
Interesting take on V's apparent immunity to Cyberpsychosis:
While it has been hinted that the Chip does do that, I remember reading the tweets of a Cyberpunk loremaster.
The guy explained that a person's resistance to Cyberpsychosis scales on their humanity. The higher the stat, the more resistant to going psycho. The guy theorized two things:
1. David has incredibly high Humanity, given how he was chromed out from Neck to Toe and before that, spammed the hell out of a military grade Sandy without the meds.
2. Despite allegedly using the chip as a Cyberpsycho insurance policy, V (in theory) had a higher humanity rating than David's. And he thought it to be miles higher, considering that not once through the game did V's psyche falter, and depending on the endings, he faced his death like brave man expecting the inevitable or feared for his life like any rational human being.
Think I read a theory similar to this. Mainly about the mental state of the mind. Some even said if David didn't get mind fked by JK's BD, he might have not gone over the edge.
As David went through more chrome, he also lost more of his humanity side. Only person that kept him grounded was really Lucy. She even managed to bring him back from Cyberpsychosis. She was his humanity.
V basically had Johnny to keep him from going over the edge. Plus also the relic helps in a sense. V kept his compassionate humanity even if he borges out.
@@jjlim3768 I agree with that first part as well
@@jjlim3768 not to mention David was younger than V when a LOT of tragic stuff happened, not to mention even though he had his crew they died one by one or betrayed him
Meanwhile V had Jackie, Judy, Kerry, Panam, rogue... The list goes on
@@jjlim3768 Plus V doesn't really "borg out" in the same way David did. V's body plan stays basically the same, he'd still recognise himself if he looked in the mirror (well, usually).
He always picks the option that matches his natural body, so he doesn't have the same dissociation risks David and Maine ran into.
The hallucinations Maine and David both had makes it clear that in their heads they still saw themselves as the scrawny kids they started out as, regardless of how they actually looked. V's mental model of themself looks like...well, how they look.
So just like how Cyberpsychosis is really a possible outcome of a bunch of factors coming together, V has a bunch of factors acting at once to stop him going over the edge:
* Restricting himself to implants his body can handle (represented by stat requirements) and don't significantly alter his appearance.
* Strong personal connections to keep him grounded.
* The chip and Johnny acting as a buffer and motivator to stay focused and clear-headed.
* Having already died once meaning he has no illusions about his own mortality or thinking he's special.
An interesting take is the player playing V is the cyberpsycho because the player can decide to run over a group of civilians in a mai mai car just to fight maxtac and get some exp. Or kill the dad in Regina's Dirty Biz gig just to laugh at the kid while he cries.
Bruh, Adam smasher tossed David around like a toy when he had the most advanced mech suit ever. V bullied adam smasher with a pistol.
In some cases, V claps adam with a dildo knife
ngl, pistols and katanas are too op in cyberpunk.
they really are XD @@LucaPagliarini-zi6jo
In my two playthroughs, Adam Smasher got utterly bullied twice.
One, him losing to a bald V wearing a yellow suit and red boots in just one punch, and
Two, him losing again to a half-naked V with just a vibrating sex toy. (BFC 9000)
Adam Smasher:
“Who the f*ck are you?”
V:
“One punch, one punch is all I need to defeat you.”
"You should only fear a 30 year old man if he is in a job that men die on their 20s."
Cereallus Killus 2000 - 2077
But v is in his 20s he’s 22
@@youngflashy7181 He used to be 27, but CPR retconned it
@@greaterbuttHes 22 now?
@@ErenDenizMert something like that, yeah.
the line goes : Never underestimate a old man in a young man's career
“No bitches”💀😭
V after one shotting Adam smasher with legendary comrades hammer: “Well, what now?”
I love David. His legend status I believe was well earned.
But let's be honest.
Canon end game V is literally a walking death god. Dude literally walked through the front door of Arasaka to play 'fk around and find out'.
Adam Smasher, the best Arasaka had to offer. Cutting edge tech with experience as a merc to back it up. Got destroyed by V.
Mil spec Sandevistan good but not enough to clap V.
About that mil spec Sandy.... Davie's Sandy could be outdated by now, given Vs story is a year after David has passed
@@danielllitpek2014I don’t think it’s outdated after only a year…but yeah who knows?..could be..David’s strongest cyberware is the Sandevistan…while V’s strongest cyberware is the Relic…which is slowly killing V but at the same time not letting him die…V can’t really die canonically…he survived Dex’s headshot and even Placide’s kamikaze bomb that fried the Netwatch agent like a chicken..V is just too fucking OP..pretty bad matchup for everyone…I don’t think even Blackhand would have a shot against him
@@donchi1234 It's stupid to compare David and V, cause it's anime and game they working by the different rules.
If look on implants and experience David will be still stronger even he just was only 18 years boy.
V doesn't have any experience, like it's show as he make some small things with Jackie and then fucked up in Kompeki cause think they are elite.
Besides storyline goes around from 2 to 3 weeks, and fuck how he abble to become super power aka Sayan?
It's just bullshit, with bullshit joke boss who reminds disabled than scary Adam Smasher who nobody wants to mess up.
@@MrDaemonic6We dont know how long V was working
@@ErenDenizMert He went to NC from Atlanta where he lived a year, before as we can get from conversation from Padre he tried to has new life but couldn't.
As born in Glen he probably was working as an assistant, bring me that and that.
When he returned he hasn't got any implants (i'm not counting his deck), and looks how they work with Jackie was the same, simple deals where V getting smashed face, only first big deal it was Kompeki where they fucked up.
So as I said no real experience, only from getting a bullet in his head and storyline in 2-3 weeks he became a slain machine which is stupid as fuck.
V has Skippy and that's enough 🤣🤣
V has a dildo, that’s better
BAD USER!!!
Time to annoy the kid with the AI.
People always give David the speed/agility part of these lists like V can’t also have a mil spec Sandy😭
And it really wouldn’t matter if he used anything else. Beserk: don’t matter what David throws at him he ain’t doing any damage. Quickhack: end yourself quickhack
V is like itachi and full sends it the whole way even tho he is becoming blind, coughing up blood, hallucinations, whole world against him and full well knew he is going to die... but not with out his name still on the tips of people's tongue, One thing I will always give mega props to cd project red, is they made you feel like the MAIN CHARACTER, might just be me but being v and being able to talk shit to a massive group of chooms and they back down beacuse I tell them how mf chromed up I am, without all the glitches cyberpunk is my favourite game
The only reason he is immune to cyber psychosis is because of Johnny
@@mid1429 we know already.
FACTSS DUDE this means you've played the Side Job in that little diner that was about to get robbed by a few guys
Fax
Now we talking lmao u had me in the first half ngl
Also did you call Johnny Being in Vs head
Silverhandosis 💀💀💀 ayo
The no bitches one gets me personally
@@scoopsyboii9996 time to speedrun getting ass in cyberpunk2077
What about silverhandestivan?
It's because technically speaking he's a cyberpsycho, he's hearing voices and talking to himself. To people passing by they don't know he has Johnny silverhand in his head. Even then try explaining that to someone without sounding crazy
@stayfro5ty214 It's explained in the game, during the mission where you talk to takemura in Tom's diner. Initially V talks to silverhand out loud but after Johnny points out that you don't need to, you just talk to him in your head.
V is essentially a God in Night City.
V can solo whole arasaka personel and chief security and dark legend of NC being Adam Smasher while being basically on his death bed, and he's also immune to cyberpsychosis most likely thanks to relic. There's really no competition
Holy shit. You got me at the beginning. I was locked and loaded and ready to go to war with you. My bad. Thought you were a casual or one of those people that only watched the anime lmao
Felt that
V getting -1 at "No Bitches"
Had me laugh hard 😂😂
V is the greatest legend in Night City history. David is just another legend. Great on his own, but can’t top the king. V became a living legend, which isn’t normally possible.
Pretty sure David isn't a legend but an Edgerunner. Edgerunner are those that are almost legends, almost.
@@brosephstinson1297 He’s got a drink in the afterlife. He’s a legend.
@@brosephstinson1297He is considered as a legend…he got his drink in the Afterlife…El Capitan also said he was a legend
V solos all of arasaka tower and adam smasher while David couldn't beat smasher with the robo fucktron
David was destined to lose to Adam Smasher tbh. I think if he wasn't exhausted, on the verge of cyberpyschosis and 'plot' he would've at least survived like Blackhand or beat Smasher or tied.
@@sandevastated1 I feel like he could have at least kept up with him if he hadn't gotten jumped by Miltech beforehand and wasn't tired, like you said
Well... nothing ever works out the way you want it to in Night City
V using the sandevistan every 10 seconds with no repercussions
Welp v got keanu in his head and That's pretty op.
I imagine him talking shit about David the whole time they would be fighting
Biochip + killed Adam smasher + no cyberpsychosis + strong enough to save love interest + literally can't die + is cyber jesus + is able to instantly master any weapon + Skippy + is able to go to space + Johnny is his choom
Falco: You and David have alot in common
V: RAAAA BUT I AINT A BITCH WITH MOMMY ISSUES RAAAA
Factsssss
For real! Some people forget that V is essentially on the same level as Solos like Smasher and black hand. Except V doesn't have any top of the line corpo chrome upgrades like Smasher. The only corpo tech V has is the relic, and that's something they stole and wasn't even given to them.
Vs above smasher fs considering you can body him easily all by your self
In that fight no matter how powerful David is , he's literally another NPC to V
@@Ordoabchao-x9k also V casually biltzs smasher who in edgerunners was bullying David for people who thinks David is faster and implants doesn't effect him at all except for 1
V>David in every Case
V didn’t die from anyone only person that killed v was himself
You forgetting Dexter Deshawn?
@@sandevastated1 i mean it was when V first did a "big job" like he didnt know anything and all but like if it was mid game or end game V dex wouldnt even be able to shoot V
@@canrdbleusacre5086well he still died is the point lol and even after you have the chance to flatline from Placide hack on you and then revived again by the relic.
Much better than your first V VS David video choom
Bro the paragraph I was gonna write was gonna be insane before I heard the wake up to reality
💀💀
V is the legend of nightcity, David is another gravestone in desert…
If you think about it, it almost seems like David uses a Kerenzikov, not a Sandevistan. He mostly uses it in short bursts, with little to no cooldown inbetween, which is way more similar to a late-game Kerenzikov (mine slows time by 99% for 5 seconds, with 3 seconds cooldown inbetween). That doesn't really change anything in the end, but it's interesting to me nevertheless. I guess you could however use it as a point for V, since they could counter Davids Sandevistan with a Kerenzikov, while using some other operating system to have the edge in slowed time, probably Berserk imo.
Except that kerenzikov slows down the user’s perspective, while Sandevistan makes the user extremely fast, just like David.
Yeah it's a cool theory. I feel as if David's military grade sandevistan is a hybrid between the 'Falcon' and the 'Warpdancer' as well as has some Kerenzikov similarities.
I think how the game potrays that 'relics' only allow you to talk to the 'dead'
the engram is a prototype version that stores someone's consciousness on a body.
So I think the anime does the same but with David's military sandevistan, so it's possibly some type of prototype that was deemed too dangerous after driving most people 'pyscho'. My theory atleast.
I can already hear the fanboys for David come running
This would be like a 2 second long fight since V can easily turn David into a cyberpsycho 😂
Had me on the first half ngl. I was like not true
I consider V to be almost literally a god in the Cyberpunk 2077 universe.
One may be built different
But the other is a legend
The way smasher dog walks David is all the proof you need. Smasher ripped off the cyberskeleton arms like they were nothing and his Sandevistan kept up with David's. V wins No diff at all.
If you have any doubts about who is stronger, just remember V acted solo mostly after the heist and truth to be told the 'Don't Fear The Raeper' ending makes a lot more sense because practically, he has been going solo and why does he need to team up now?
Bro V wins every category. He wins every category against every cyberpunk character 😂
Besides speed with david dudes basically the flash but with bad stamina but I agree with the rest
You don’t get it bro. V has access to the same mili tech Sandevistan David had that made him so fast.
@@cyslammerx8011bro had everything David had and more
Hot take
I think Vs story is better than davids. Hes a guy with big dreams but rapidly losing himself and as the player you can see that by how he turns into Johnny the more you progress into the game
Not really a hot take Vs character had a lot more room to grow
yeah david is just an idiot
I mean a character that survived and kept having an ongoing story is bound to be better than a character who died in 8 episodez
I agree with you. I might be a bit biased because I've read Neuromancer but the idea of a terminally ill protagonist with a limited amount of time to save themselves and leave their mark on the world appeals to me :D
V literally took out adam smasher alone, David, alone beside he can't even do it with his whole goddamn crew
Lmao, those Vs who complete sidequests first then the story would Slap Everyone in the NC, but it's a shame that we couldn't chrome both Berserker and Sandevistan, if we could, we literally create a Kratos in NC
You can with mods!
Fr, lol, V is fucking ridiculous, not at all what I expected when I first played the game. They were way too OP by the end.
It’s pretty hard to say David is better at anything when V is just a personality, you can make them as fast, as smart, or as strong as you want; you can even give V all the same cyberware as David now😂 V is basically the Dragonborn of Night City
See David couldn’t clap Adam smashers cheeks like me
They need to make a animated version for V that looks like the trailer
In the new update, it seems V is no longer immune to cyberpsychosis, but becomes increasingly resistant to it as your levels go up.
Everyone keeps trying to say Adam Smasher was stronger in the anime but I think you're missing the actual point. Adam Smasher wasn't stronger, David was just that much weaker than him. He never stood a chance, Adam Smasher is the Cyberpunk endgame in both the game and ttrpg. V on the other hand, is just that much stronger than him. V has no issues at the end of Cyberpunk as assuming you didn't purposefully hold back, you stomp on him and it's not saying Adam Smasher was weaker, he wasn't. V was just that good.
V is a god
NC LEGEND, THE GOD OF MERCS.
@@sandevastated1 Legend for sure. Morgan Blackhand is the latter though.
My samurai build would turn David to mist by the time he'd realised I was there
David Martinez is also a legend of Night City
died to smasher- David
KILLED smasher- V
i think we all know who wins lol
David- got one shotted by smasher
V- beat smasher to death with a dildo
V the giga mega chad
David: I’m built different
V: I can use hacks from the Blackwall
David: the *WHAT WALL!?*
in phantom liberty, V is now able to get David’s Sandevistan and recharge it with each kill, something david couldn’t do, so V is even faster
It's not just in phantom liberty, it's in the 2.0 update. That Sandy is monstrous
Which sandevistan is?
@@encrypted.v1822 Apogee Sandevistan, you have to be LV 40 or 50 (I don't remember) before you can buy it from vendors
@@encrypted.v1822 did you ever find it
He got biches meaning panam
don't forget he also had Meredith stout... if you played your cards right even if it was for a 1 time thing
Even the red chick wanted him as a 'bodyguard'
You can fuck Judy as a female character too.
even river's sister hits on male V so I mean c'mon
Yet by phantom liberty..all that washes away
Ok David is a kid and v is older and more experienced but still he was sick and dying because relic still managed to enter arasaka hq fuked everyone in that building and kill Adam Smasher and survive soul killer and went alone to old net came back .. David only could fight in last episode bcz he had arasaka mech tech and a team.. David didn't have experience relied to much on tech
Now V is faster because he can get David's sandevistan
V is what you make of them. They literally have the choice to become whatever they like. A netrunner, a Merc with a sandevistan or a berserk mod, or they could become a solo copy of David. The only thing we can't do like David is shove the projectile launcher inside our gorilla arm, but either way, if you actually play 2077 and go for the best ending you'd see V will always be better than David. V was killed, sure they had a relic bringing them back, but that relic was basically a reverse tumor, it treated V's conscience as the tumor trying to wipe them out. They had to put up with constant malfunctions, and if you choose to upgrade them to the fullest, V ends up going through major cyberware upgrades, as much as David did, without taking any meds to keep them sane. The creator explained the relic caused v to not go cyberpsycho since they shared a body with basically two brains. Johnny was there to take the load off, and if you saved V he still doesn't have the issue of cyberpsychosis. Not only that but V goes through the entire game, depending how you play being either stealthier, quicker, or stronger than David ever was. V becomes strong enough to take down Adam smasher, something David couldn't do with a cyber skeleton. Yes he was going cyberpsycho, but that doesn't change anything once you realize you could do a "minimal" cyberware run, only getting the upgrades needed at the start as V in order to play the game. V can go through the entire game just like that and still beat the undefeatable. It's just no matter how you look at it, v is always going to be one of the top legends of night city. V is the only one to get a drink at the afterlife while still alive, they are the only one to take down the monster that was smasher, and they were able to destroy Arasaka plans by letting the AI based off of Alt's construct get into Mikoshi and merge all the constructs they had into herself. Honestly with the speculation that David might be alive or as a construct could be plausible, but until we see more, we can't say for sure, and if it is him as a construct, that still means he is dead and now probably inside of Alt kinda like how V or Johnny end up depending on your end choice.
Imagine v as an old man sitting enjoying his legandary status retired and then boom whole ass Arasaka army tries to kill him the camera pans out and we see hundreds of dead agents and v in the middle grinning as a nuke is about to hit him and he opens his arms and accepts death
When you play the game on normal difficulty, that's how powerful V actually is.
I never knew Edgerunners was based in 2076
V still solos
Pls do V Vs Silverhand or Adam Smasher 2076 VS V/David
Sure but V vs Silverhand is a bit one sided, unless you want Prologue V vs Johnny.
Adam Smasher 2076 from the Anime, right?
Yeah, Prologue V and anime Smasher
@@sandevastated1Adam Jensen from Deus ex would beat both
Yeah, it’s because of Johnny’s engram that is/was uploaded to the matrix, so now V has almost an immunity to going cyberpsycho
On top of that engrams have an unlimited cyberware capacity without any of the other major side effects, due to it just being a copy of that person’s consciousness
now , after 2.0 update , you can get the same sandevistan as David's
Great vid but i gotta be honest V takes all besides backstory thats the only thing David has on V
I can see why you think that way, thanks for watching regardless
@@sandevastated1 ur shorts r cool af u should definitely make sum more at least i think so i seen all of them idk why they don’t have more likes
@@vxabyss5498 Thank you, I appreciate it. I will make some more for sure just been a bit sick atm, but V vs Maine's crew is next, followed by Adam Smasher 2076.
Facts. V is just OP. David just has a better backstory and technically actual character development. Thats about it
adam smasher vs V ? also, i can’t be the only one that hopes that it would be female v vs david if the two really met
I can do this video but we already know the outcome to be honest. V wins 😅
@@sandevastated1 ik, i just really love seeing v outmatch him 😌
@@L.tHL. I’ll do it just for you, but don’t tell anyone! :)
@@sandevastated1 appreciate it choom 🤭
Some people saying that david is cooler cause he went to arasaka and stuff ... Bruh there is literally a secret mission were V LITERALLY Forced Intrusion Arasaka SOLO and fkd up every floor then smacked adam smasher like it wasnt a big deal with him 💀💀💀💀
Bro got me in the first half ngl
How about Jackie Wells vs David Martinez
17 year old David or 18 ?
@@sandevastated1 which one do you prefer
Bruh you really want to toss Jackie on a burning pire huh? It's not even a competition.
@@sandevastated1 instead do ordo or takahmara , idk their names exactly but guy with the red face mask and guy that sounds like Hanzo from overwatch
@@FVCK-TH1S Sandayo Oda and Goro Takemura!
Lmao, at least one of the endings let’s V go to space 😂
David relied heavily on the sandy and was showing signs of psychosis even before getting the sandy (he watched XBD’s) David was never going to last long in Night City, V (though we haven’t seen any of her past and ofc this is all based on what path you choose) never showed signs of being a psycho, the only times you can get cyberpsychosis is when you go on a killing spree, which isn’t cannon and we know this is because V has a lot of dialogue where she is against needless killing, I remember during a mission when asked about killing no matter what option you pick she will always end up saying something along the lines of how killing is just a part of her life and she doesn’t feel any joy from it. (I refer to V as a female a lot because the creator of Cyberpunk 2077 said he and the crew don’t see V as anything more than a female so I like to take that as cannon)
Look I'm just happy knowing that if David were alive V would pull up on him and potentially work together
Nah V is a solo and he have no reasons to help David
People that work with V have this nasty tendency of ending up dead.
V is a solo for a reason.
V is a solo... nothing can change that like V's mates were most likely dead after... + V doesnt need anyone like V can enter and kill everyone in Arasaka and Adam samsher (while being on the death bed literally) and get to mikoshi ALONE, V also killed all gangs bosses and all V is the legend of NC, V is the god of cyberpunk like he/she is so ducking op in end game
they should’ve made a 18th cyberpsycho in the game. David. make it a storyline like he became a borg after being shot through the eye by smasher, and is now tearing up pacifica. but you have to kill every other cyberpsycho first, and you get the call from Mr Hands that David is still alive. if you kill David you get his Sandy
My guy David is dead my man. U don’t take a hand cannon shot through the head and live.
@@nikik5567Unless your name is V
@@andywidnes4624 even V never did that.
@@nikik5567 V took a gunshot to the head and survived... Tank
@@andywidnes4624 he came back because of the chip. Let’s not kid ourselves here. He died and came back.
I love how he putted "no bitches" Just to gave a few vantage to David, since we All know what V do in jig jig street after we close the game at 3 am
David: You got a Sandevistan?
V: A rudimentary implant
technically v has more bitches, there's two romantic interests to each V form, and in the sun ending you end up living good months with your bae
what are the 2
u can consider Judy she will have sex with you if you come to her in special car and female dress
@@blob6602 fem v has judy and river
and masc v has kerry and panam
@@goldencookie953let's not forget Meredith and the few other people that do flirt or hit on V like the Us Cracks and River's sister.
V solos the verse
The same verse
@@ItalianCat1 yes
It's like what Thane Krios said about Kai Lang after their first/last encounter in Mass Effect 3 "Well trained assassin, and he still couldn't finish off a dying man". Hell, we even run into cyberpsychos that use exo-skeletons (like what Brick uses if we fight him or help him when Militech attacks, if we tell him about the virus on the cred-chip Meredith put on it) and we still clap them psycho-cheeks. Hell, even when Placid tries to flatline us, we get back up, pissed as hell that he tried to zero us, and even scare the Voodoo Boyz who thought V was dead. It's like Punisher(2004 movie version) meets John Wick, we come back from the dead, and just a badass with guns and able to kill whoever gets in our way in a multitude of different ways.
David was a beast for sure, but V has one thing David lacks: Perk Points
David is only one man.
V is not.
Nice edit but I think you forgot that V can get the sandevistan as well but overall I think this pretty accurate and I’m confident that if V and David fought it would have been the same way David died in anime and V literally looking down at David just like how V looked down at Adam smasher and I find it funny that Adam smasher died the same way he killed David with smasher looking down at David then V looking down at smasher as he was killed
This and if you kit yourself out in the right way you can get a sandevistan with a cooldown of under 5 seconds
The sandevistan David has based on the anime, isn't in the game. David's sandevistan seems much more powerful than then 10% slow time for the Warp Dancer Sandevistan, you can see this on the final episode where David is so fast he's in 3 different places at once. However, just because David is faster doesn't mean he'd automatically win. Since V has a sandi too, he wouldn't 100% catch up but would still see him coming and just has to manuever, like Adam Smasher does etc.
Other characters without sandi's like Johnny would suffer greatly though.
@@sandevastated1 point made
I mean the Warp Dancer Sandevistan isn't the best one. There's the Militech Sandevistan that you can acquire as well, which slows time by 60% for 15 seconds.
@@zer0stars What’s the name for it? All I’ve seen for all sandevistan’s is 30% being the highest. Although I don’t think it matters much since no matter what sande V has, he’s not fast enough to be in 3 places at once.
One died to Smasher. The other smashed Smashed
O V sozinho dizimaria toda a equipe do David com extrema facilidade kkkkkk
Weeb moment
You got me