Caravelle Jet Crashes on Takeoff at Stockholm Airport - Transwede Sud Aviation SE-210
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- On 6 January 1987, a Caravelle registration SE-DEC, tried to takeoff from Stockholm airport bound to Alicante, Spain, but a sudden nose drop took the pilots by surprise.
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I used to fly with Transwede Caravelle From Gothenburg to Östersund in 1987-1988 when doing my miliiary services in the Airforce , it was a beautiful aircraft
Really like how you end most of your videos showing the accident plane flying smoothly in its best form. Its a really cool touch. Keep up the good work
Thanks
Yeah, agree. The same plane in happier times; it's strangely poignant.
The plane this video is about was 17 years old, that isn't ancient as far as jet airliners go. This model was in production until 1972. It was in operation at the same time as Boeing 727's, 737's and the McDonnell Douglas DC-9. In fact, all of these planes used the same engine.
I have to admit that, even at the time, the design did look old. Especially in the US, the Boeings and the DC-9 all looked much more modern, even though they were all contemporaries.
There were two primary reasons the design looked "older" than it really was. First, the forward part of the fuselage was the same as the DeHavilland Comet, a dedign from 1949.
Second, it was designed and built in France.
When I was a kid, learning about all the different airplanes, my grandfather, who worked for United airlines, explained it to me this way;
If you see a plane you don't know, and it's ugly, it is probably a British design. If you see a plane you don't know, and it's FUGLY, it is almost certainly a French design.
A few years later, he ammended that by adding, "unless it's a Concord."
The first French built Caravelle were in commercial operation in 1955. The B 727 in 62. The DC 9 in 65. The largest charter operator of Caravelles in the world were Sterling Airways and their final Caravelles were the 10B model that remained in Sterling's fleet until 1992 when the last example was retired. Sterling were launch costumer for the Caravelle 12, prolonged and with higher passenger capacity and longer range. The final Sterling Caravelle flight took place on 15 January 1992 between Luxembourg and Copenhagen, operated by OY-STI. Sterling Airways at one point had 36 Caravelles, the largest single company Caravelle fleet in the world. Sterling Airways held maintenance certifications to be able to make full main overhauls of the Caravelle and did so.
As far as I have been able to track. The last former Sterling owned and main overhauled Caravelle in operation, besides museum planes, were flying semi refined gold ore for an Australian mining company. As the market for then truly exotic long distance destinations began to come to life in late 70´s early 80´s in the Scandinavian market Sterling operated a Caravelle 12 weekly in the holiday season from Copenhagen to then Ceylon emptying two full fuelling´s underway.
When Sterling Airways founder and sole owner, the priest, Elief Krogager, were nearing the end of his life he sold the company of in a full transaction. Many believe to preserve his life´s work. Unfortunately this turned out to be the beginning of the end for Sterling that later declared bankruptcy, in what many considers a highly suspicious way, hereunder the writer of this comment. After 5 years of selling of assets cheap and hundreds of millions spent on lawyers for the process, there still were many money left! Many point to Hans Christian Kjær as the mastermind behind this odd and sad "event" that by many have raised questions. It left 1800 highly qualified people on the street. A sad end for a proud company that once were the worlds largest charter operator. No Scandinavian airline have since been able to obtain maintenance certification to make main overhauls of any larger commercial jets.
Caravelle had such style that DC-9 nor any other plane never came close to it. Caravelle forever!
It's hard to believe that such an ancient aircraft was still around in the late 80s. It looks like a first-generation jet built when piston engines were still in use.
I was surprised, too. The Caravelle was a very handsome a/c, however.
@@gordonbergslien30 I flew out of Omaha on one in1960, pulled up into very steep climb spilling water from galley down aisle, reason given was unexpected traffic conflict from Offut AFB. Beautiful plane , one of my favorites of many in my life. Don Geddes ATP CFI
It used the nose and cockpit of then De Havilland Comet to save time and money
Doesn't matter if it was aged or old, If they focussed to good maintenance they were reliable and not computer driven... Lots of old B 707, DC 8, BAC 1-11, Trident 2 or 3B were in service in Europe an built the backbone of daily business travel or tourism, I miss those old birds !
@@keithloughrin6981Such a beautiful nose and cockpit window design!
Never heard of that one ! My first time flying was on a Caravelle :) it was 1973 from Paris to Bastia (Corsica) wonderful flight !
I began my flight attendant career in 1985 on board Caravelle SUPER 10 version // 114 passengers with EUROPE AERO SERVICE french charter airline till 1990 and AIR INTER french airline got the 130 pax version CARAVELLE SUPER 12 !!! So noisy at the back !!! the rear galley was just between the 2 engines ;;;;;;; And sometimes the two engines were not synchronized !!! mmmmm my gooooodness !!! ROOOOOOAAAAR RROOOOOOOAR was the music !!!! 😂😂😂
I know the captain on that flight, his wife, daughter and son. All aviation people. I worked for him in Air Operations of Europe. (AIR OPS). L-1011. Thomas Johansson. He used to joke about him being the only pilot to crash a Caravelle at Arlanda. 🤣
Another great vid thanks 🙏
Nitrogen found in a hyd. line? Maybe a bladder burst on a hyd. accumulator at an inopportune moment. Saw that a couple times on DC-8s years ago.
I regret never to have flown the Caravelle . Air France was still flying them from Orly to Nice in the late 80s before retirement .
Air France wfu the Caravelle in April 1981.
CVR Transcript of Transwede Sud Aviation SE-210
3:20 F.O: Airspeed alive.
4:12 CAPTAIN: Abort!
4:16 the plane smashes into the runway and bounces back in the air
The most horrifying part of this accident, the flight attendants cancelled beverage service and the fasten seatbelts sign was never turned off.
What do you mean? They never started any service, and I know the captain on that flight, and his wife. She was purser. I have more insight into that accinent than most others. Or are you bein ironic?
A handsome aircraft was the Caravelle. You can tell it has design elements from the Comet.
The Caravelle was a beautiful aircraft. No wonder it originated in France, the country of this planets most beautiful language.
Love how you show the smoky exhaust, and continue the flight until it stops. A few problems with the lights not being destroyed, and no trail in the snow, but fine video.
The crash investigation report should have added as a foot note ; ah, we are unaware of a certain cause of this incident as of now.
Last Caravelle I saw was parked on the West French military ramp at N'Jamena, T'Chad - 1989.
The flaps seem to be fully retracted, unless they were able to magically retract them before crash landing, it would likely be a contributing major and likely cause.
The Caravelle was a beautiful aircraft,and had quite a long service life.A defiinte first generation jet,the early ones had a drag shute.l think the last one was retired in Africa sometime in the early 2000s!
Great video
For every 727 built, Boeing had to pay patent royalties to the French for the aft mounted engine configuration they pioneered.
Yes, wonderful CGI, very clever simulation.
Awesome video! … 👍
I’m not trying to be disrespectful but in these video clips the plane’s sound like a tin cans when rolling and taking off, also keep in mind that this was around 1987 when Frank Lorenzo, from Continental Airlines, deliberately bankrupted Eastern Airlines to get his parent company Continental Airlines into the United States market, the airline industry then quickly evolving then leading up to the merger of Continental purchasing United and then Frank Lorenzo, the mastermind, retiring.
Swissair 306 next?
MPC, Sorry Interrupt You But What Happened To The Recreation Of *Flightline Flight 101?*
U mean fin air 101?
I have to update it
The Caravelle was still in use at that time. The accident happend but not in this way. Every one can see that this is fake. How do I know? I was a resqueleader at STH-ARN at that time. However al went well, no one got hurt.😁
Then you know more than the people who investigated.
Four flight attendants for only 21 passengers?
Yes but it had been deiced so if they proved it was ice they need to speak to driving team also if a plane has been deiced can the crew still switch on the planes deicer as well
Sempre più realistici
Any one read the accident report? Where did the nitrogen come from? Bad accumulator bypassing nitrogen charge to system??
Did they not do flight control checks on taxi out ???
MPC why dont u use Xplane12?
Morcego
First, I guess............
09/09/24 13:13PM BRA
Does anyone really need to know?🤔
@@Lauriedriver i guess so, bcz there some who don't believe without proofs lol
@@YeahYeahBruhBruh🤷♂️🤦🏻♂️whatever.
@@Lauriedriver Bruh
So essentially everything was fine and the flight crew panicked for no reason. Got it.
The video mentions surface icing on the elevators - which would have prevented positive climb, and nitrogen in the hydraulic lines - which gave erroneous feedback to the captain. Those were the two causes found by investigators. Any help?