I'm a health care assistant and a large hospital in the South of England, I had no clue about the problems student/junior doctors are facing despite working along side them. the prospect of taking action against it is very exciting and inspiring to me, as another NHS worker that's already struggling with the cost of living crisis. best of luck!
Thanks Ollie - you have my full support. A daughter to a medic, a wife to a medic, a mum to a medic and also a NHS worker;in the last 25 years I have seen enough to realise major changes are needed for our junior doctors - the life stem of our NHS.
Hello, F2 here. A lot of hospitals may try to get clinical year medical students to come in for “learning opportunities” whilst the strike is ongoing. Whilst it will be good learning, they will essentially use you guys to fill the gaps and do some of the F1/F2 jobs. I’d suggest you refrain from attending non compulsory placements.
I personally think nurses and doctors need to unitise I.A as this would have maximum impact and demonstrate to the government that we won’t accept the ongoing insulting practice of thanking us yet not appreciating the work we undertake.
@@OllieBurtonMed RCN ballot is from beginning of September I think. We are in for interesting times. The problem with nurses is voter apathy and that’s why previous votes on IA never occurred. I’m very interested to see what will happen from my perspective. As an ACP working on the junior doctor rota, will very much be a case of working to rule if IA isn’t coordinated as we need to ensure support for each other’s profession! I very much recall the last junior doctors strike which definitely made its voice heard at the time and was strongly supported by both the consultant body and other HCPs.
Allow me to take this time to thank you and everyone working behind the scenes soo much for the betterment of the NHS, as a foreign 4th-year medical student who fell in love with the quality of care in the NHS and aspire to work with such a team I feel for all of them who sacrifices soo much during their medical school biting on the humongous debt of student loan, spending most of your own time away from your family and privet life to serve the community as an FY1 and so on with one of the best care out there, I hope the government takes a positive step to save the system and its pillars.
I just love you Oliver. You are a true brilliance to our society and to the Junior Doctors (who basically run the NHS) of this country. I wish you and your colleges all the best in this dispute, along with my 100% support.
Great video and advice , hopefully the government do sth and agree to restore our payment without the need to strike, but if not, we're United together
You need to see an occupational therapist at your medical school, or ask a suitable professional for advice. I really doubt an FY2 will be able to provide an accurate response to this, hence the lack of a reply.
Didn't have an awful lot to say but would broadly agree. I have a mild benign essential tremor that has caused no issues at all but will depend on your particular circumstances
I think both Sunak and Truss have said they want to legislate to prevent essential public services from taking industrial action. Is this likely to affect this at all?
Good question and the answer is it could do - partly would depend on whether they would actually follow through on that (Truss has already shown for example that she will readily flip-flop to meet the populist demand) and the length of time it would take to actually pass that legislation.
@@OllieBurtonMed What are your opinions about large-scale defiance of such a law, were it to be passed? i.e. do you think it's likely doctors would strike anyway given the significant momentum already gathered, under the principle of not being able to punish / fire every doctor?
@@benreynolds5830 I genuinely don't know unfortunately Ben. It would be a very different ask for people to be risking their medical license or training number. Many people simply wouldn't be able to do it.
@@OllieBurtonMed There's more than enough of them to get >100,000 signatures on a petition to trigger a debate in Parliament. The point here is the most are unwilling to show any semblance of having a spine. The last two years have proved that comfortably. They pass unlawful legislation because they know the people it affects will lie down and take their beating.
Who to blame for this mess? Blame the people who for the last decade and more have voted for tax cuts over NHS funding. The Tories will continue their dismantling of the NHS and they will do so with the backing of the British public who will vote for more tax cuts at the next election. People always get the politicians they deserve.
hopefully your strike will show you how much the public care about your greed in a time of global collapse the money has to come from somewhere and the public cannot afford it. when doctors actually start to do something about the waiting list currently at 9 Million maybe we will give you some support. you are not worth the money you are paid now. best advice is find another job.
Hi mate - going to take this opportunity to remind you that waiting lists have almost nothing at all to do with doctors themselves, and everything to do with the number of doctors we have, which is controlled by the government. Hope that helps.
@@pewpewshit9153 foreigners outside the USA would have to do training again and pass all the exams. Cant simply get a doctor’s job if that’s the route you choose to take
Whilst I agree with yours, and all other medical staff plight; what is occurring here has happened to nursing and AHP staff in the NHS for well over a decade now. I am not saying what is happening is right or fair, I am just saying that your statement at the beginning of the video that junior doctors are not getting the pay rise that “all other NHS staff” are getting is not entirely accurate if you were to scrutinise the pay history of these other staff groups for the last 12 years and balance it against the rate of inflation. It actually works out as a pay cut when you lol at what was originally mapped out for these staff groups on the AfC programme, especially when you factor in what the original (and now failed) KSF programme was supposed to achieve.
That's very correct, it's happened to all of us - it's just that junior doctors being deliberately excluded was part of what prompted the emergency meeting. Still of course a real terms pay cut as you say
Wow. Rapid response 🙏🏻. Having worked in the NHS for just under 20 years now, this cyclical degradation of value for NHS staff members across the board, and in particular medical staff, via pay restriction is what ultimately will lead to nobody wanting to enter into training posts and either remain staff grade eternally or seek employment with better pay and conditions abroad or in the private sector .The governments short sightedness on this issue regardless of which government is in power (although particularly Tory!) is nothing short of ridiculous.
I’m currently a junior and I’m sorry but let’s be real, nothing is going to happen. It’s alll a distraction. Do your time , get training done and leave the nhs with the so called “british training “ and the world is your oyster. Yours efforts are cute tho , keeps you busy I guess
@@craigthebrute7929 namely Australia, Canada , and some of the Middle East , essentially countries who still believe strongly in the British reputation and are ignorant of the fact of how behind and corrupt we really are,,, worse case, jjst stay in uk and rinse the NHS as locum for as long as possible before it all collapses :)
@@craigthebrute7929 Dcotors are in demand. The main restriction is language, which for many people in the UK means english speaking countries. If one knows another language that opens other countries.
@@sciencefliestothemoon2305 you cannot practice in the US without USMLE & repeating residency. You cannot train in Australia because most specialties prioritize home- grown grads.
I'm a health care assistant and a large hospital in the South of England, I had no clue about the problems student/junior doctors are facing despite working along side them. the prospect of taking action against it is very exciting and inspiring to me, as another NHS worker that's already struggling with the cost of living crisis. best of luck!
Thanks Ollie - you have my full support. A daughter to a medic, a wife to a medic, a mum to a medic and also a NHS worker;in the last 25 years I have seen enough to realise major changes are needed for our junior doctors - the life stem of our NHS.
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Really useful video and especially great point about the media. What can medical students do to support?
Join literally any union that doesn't have representatives employed by the same trust lmao
Hello, F2 here. A lot of hospitals may try to get clinical year medical students to come in for “learning opportunities” whilst the strike is ongoing. Whilst it will be good learning, they will essentially use you guys to fill the gaps and do some of the F1/F2 jobs. I’d suggest you refrain from attending non compulsory placements.
I personally think nurses and doctors need to unitise I.A as this would have maximum impact and demonstrate to the government that we won’t accept the ongoing insulting practice of thanking us yet not appreciating the work we undertake.
May actually happen just the way things have worked out - RCN is balloting now and junior docs soon - possible there may be overlap
@@OllieBurtonMed RCN ballot is from beginning of September I think. We are in for interesting times. The problem with nurses is voter apathy and that’s why previous votes on IA never occurred. I’m very interested to see what will happen from my perspective. As an ACP working on the junior doctor rota, will very much be a case of working to rule if IA isn’t coordinated as we need to ensure support for each other’s profession! I very much recall the last junior doctors strike which definitely made its voice heard at the time and was strongly supported by both the consultant body and other HCPs.
@@OllieBurtonMed do u hold a phd
Allow me to take this time to thank you and everyone working behind the scenes soo much for the betterment of the NHS, as a foreign 4th-year medical student who fell in love with the quality of care in the NHS and aspire to work with such a team I feel for all of them who sacrifices soo much during their medical school biting on the humongous debt of student loan, spending most of your own time away from your family and privet life to serve the community as an FY1 and so on with one of the best care out there, I hope the government takes a positive step to save the system and its pillars.
I just love you Oliver. You are a true brilliance to our society and to the Junior Doctors (who basically run the NHS) of this country. I wish you and your colleges all the best in this dispute, along with my 100% support.
Why isn't this viral amongst uk doctors yet?
It's really easy, tax everybody of the scale and you can have all the pay increases you want.....
Over 3000 nurses quit from Adelaide hospital I. Australia abc tried to say it was only 300
Great video and advice , hopefully the government do sth and agree to restore our payment without the need to strike, but if not, we're United together
Full support
Could you please answer me
Can a doctor work for NHS if he has essential tremors? And if yes what specialties he could pursue?
You need to see an occupational therapist at your medical school, or ask a suitable professional for advice. I really doubt an FY2 will be able to provide an accurate response to this, hence the lack of a reply.
Didn't have an awful lot to say but would broadly agree. I have a mild benign essential tremor that has caused no issues at all but will depend on your particular circumstances
When are we voting Ollie?
End of September/early October
I think both Sunak and Truss have said they want to legislate to prevent essential public services from taking industrial action. Is this likely to affect this at all?
Good question and the answer is it could do - partly would depend on whether they would actually follow through on that (Truss has already shown for example that she will readily flip-flop to meet the populist demand) and the length of time it would take to actually pass that legislation.
@@OllieBurtonMed ah okay. Thank you!
@@OllieBurtonMed What are your opinions about large-scale defiance of such a law, were it to be passed? i.e. do you think it's likely doctors would strike anyway given the significant momentum already gathered, under the principle of not being able to punish / fire every doctor?
@@benreynolds5830 I genuinely don't know unfortunately Ben. It would be a very different ask for people to be risking their medical license or training number. Many people simply wouldn't be able to do it.
@@OllieBurtonMed There's more than enough of them to get >100,000 signatures on a petition to trigger a debate in Parliament.
The point here is the most are unwilling to show any semblance of having a spine. The last two years have proved that comfortably. They pass unlawful legislation because they know the people it affects will lie down and take their beating.
Fantastic work Ollie. Informative as always. Support everything you are doing :)
This shouldn't just be junior doctors. This should be all grades.
Who to blame for this mess? Blame the people who for the last decade and more have voted for tax cuts over NHS funding. The Tories will continue their dismantling of the NHS and they will do so with the backing of the British public who will vote for more tax cuts at the next election. People always get the politicians they deserve.
The same in the Netherlands. The irony is that most hospital staff are left leaning, so they voted for this themselves.
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Great video Ollie
Keep up the good work Ollie. This time they'll take us seriously.
Most other industries are getting no pay rises and grateful to be in a job in uncertain economic times, just saying..
Respectfully, see my recent video on crab in a bucket mentality for why this response isn't helpful.
Thank you so much for keeping us all updated! I start med school in September and want to be as helpful as possible!
hopefully your strike will show you how much the public care about your greed in a time of global collapse the money has to come from somewhere and the public cannot afford it. when doctors actually start to do something about the waiting list currently at 9 Million maybe we will give you some support. you are not worth the money you are paid now. best advice is find another job.
Hi mate - going to take this opportunity to remind you that waiting lists have almost nothing at all to do with doctors themselves, and everything to do with the number of doctors we have, which is controlled by the government. Hope that helps.
Not gonna happen bro. U can strike but Theres no money to pay you. Be happy with what youve got.
Nah, Ill just leave nhs or go work in usa, canada, austrailia, or UAE. Why get paid shit and be in country that think like you?
@@pewpewshit9153 foreigners outside the USA would have to do training again and pass all the exams. Cant simply get a doctor’s job if that’s the route you choose to take
this is what we need more protests for the country the country is so miss managed for so long
Great video and point about the media! Keep them coming 👌🏽👌🏽
I am a international med looking to do f1 in Uk so I can’t sign up for the BMA is there something else I can do?
Other than sharing the news around probably not at this stage - but awareness is crucial!
MBBS IS A USELESS DEGREE.
because anyone can get one in dumbed down Britain.
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Whilst I agree with yours, and all other medical staff plight; what is occurring here has happened to nursing and AHP staff in the NHS for well over a decade now. I am not saying what is happening is right or fair, I am just saying that your statement at the beginning of the video that junior doctors are not getting the pay rise that “all other NHS staff” are getting is not entirely accurate if you were to scrutinise the pay history of these other staff groups for the last 12 years and balance it against the rate of inflation. It actually works out as a pay cut when you lol at what was originally mapped out for these staff groups on the AfC programme, especially when you factor in what the original (and now failed) KSF programme was supposed to achieve.
That's very correct, it's happened to all of us - it's just that junior doctors being deliberately excluded was part of what prompted the emergency meeting. Still of course a real terms pay cut as you say
Wow. Rapid response 🙏🏻. Having worked in the NHS for just under 20 years now, this cyclical degradation of value for NHS staff members across the board, and in particular medical staff, via pay restriction is what ultimately will lead to nobody wanting to enter into training posts and either remain staff grade eternally or seek employment with better pay and conditions abroad or in the private sector .The governments short sightedness on this issue regardless of which government is in power (although particularly Tory!) is nothing short of ridiculous.
I’m currently a junior and I’m sorry but let’s be real, nothing is going to happen. It’s alll a distraction. Do your time , get training done and leave the nhs with the so called “british training “ and the world is your oyster. Yours efforts are cute tho , keeps you busy I guess
Bull. The world isn’t your oyster. Unlike the UK, most other countries have very stringent immigration restrictions.
@@craigthebrute7929 namely Australia, Canada , and some of the Middle East , essentially countries who still believe strongly in the British reputation and are ignorant of the fact of how behind and corrupt we really are,,, worse case, jjst stay in uk and rinse the NHS as locum for as long as possible before it all collapses :)
@@craigthebrute7929 Dcotors are in demand. The main restriction is language, which for many people in the UK means english speaking countries. If one knows another language that opens other countries.
@@sciencefliestothemoon2305 you cannot practice in the US without USMLE & repeating residency. You cannot train in Australia because most specialties prioritize home- grown grads.
@@craigthebrute7929 but you can go to Australia as an sho and locum for good money?