393 Cleveland Stroker - First Start
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- This is the first start up of a 393 Cleveland Stroker that I've been meticulously building over the last several months. It's been a great learning experience for me as I was able to not only plan and assemble the components for the engine, but design and build the test stand as well.
Here are the specs for this engine:
Edelbrock dual plane aluminum intake manifold -- For run in only, switching to Weiand X-celerator 2V that has been converted to FI for later.
Edelbrock Alloy heads -- CNC Ported by Cam Research in Englewood, CO
1.73:1 ratio Harland Sharp Rocker Arms
Probe 393C stroker kit (10669-030-PS-F393C):
4340 Forged steel crank, 3.85" stroke, Nitride Hardened
Probe H-beam forged steel rods, 5.956 long
Probe forged pistons, 16cc dish, 2618-T61 Aluminum, Full Floating
Rollmaster CS3130 -- Timing Set
Powerbond Harmonic Balancer
Custom ground hydraulic flat tappet Camshaft
Oil Pan -- Aluminum 10 Qt. -- Dennis Quella -- Pantera Performance
Edelbrock Water Pump -- Flow Kooler Thermostat
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I had a stock Clevland 4v in my 1972 torino gt. At 30. Mph you could destroy a set of L 60 tires. Which i did often. Man i loved that car
Hp , and Torque numbers? Love those old Cleveland's! Powerhouse small blocks!
I really like the neutral color of their hearing protection, blends so well with the skin it's almost as if they're not wearing any at all.
At the beginning we were working on dialing in the timing. But if you watch to the end you’ll see that we both put on hearing protection.
Sissies wear ear protection!
Plus its easier to ignore the battle axe if youre deaf!
And fyi as an helicopter field mechanic I loooooove going to the drags WITHOUT sissy plugs! 😉
Funny I never do that when im sighting in my guns
😂
Your neighbors must love you. :)
Great motor best strocker ,wished i lived next door
The guy who hit the starter wasnt surprized it fired up that quickly his m8 freaked out lol,my clevlands start 1st go as well.
I added the engine specs to the description. The engine is for a Pantera, so the bellhousing bolts up to a ZF. Thanks
I'm hoping to show my 351CJ stroked to 426 cu. inch. 4.030 bore X 4.170 Stroke 8.70 compression motor soon. I used the 4V CJ heads. With manley heavy duty under cut valves. 2.19 intakes with only bowl matching, 1.71 exhaust with heavy porting. I used a small circle roller cam conversion from crane. Duration at .050 .220 in 230ex. Lift .589in .612ex. Shows you how long ago I started this project. I used the best of everything. The goal was to super charge it some day.
Are you planning on boosting it? Thought that may be why the low CR and special attention to the exhaust ports.
Yes, the plan was to break it in with a carb then aluminum build up pads on the manifold to switch to 5.0. SFI fuel injection. Then add a pro charger with or with out intercooler. My plans got side tracked indefinately due to unemployment. The motor is build and has run a few times. Broke in but timing and carb settings haven't been done yet. By timing I mean I haven't recurved the mechanical advance to match the motor. . The carb is another matter. Driving it is the only way to set that. Just don't have the money right now.
George .Montgomery 351cj?huh
The crank kit was from Speed-O-Motive. They went under some years back. Tells you how long ago I started this project. The kit consist of a turned down 400M crank, (4.170 stroke), H beam rods, I opted for high silicon forge pistons because they are made closer to the size of cast piston so you don't get piston 'slap' when the engine is cold, but you don't have the expansion that pure forged has. I also used total seal second ring. They balanced the assembly. I added a street fluid damper, and a NHRA approved flywheel and had the whole assembly re-balanced to with in one gram. I believe you can get a similar kit from Probe Industry if they are still around. There are a few that still make them but they only go to 393 and 406 cubic in. I haven't got around to video taping it yet. I have pics buried somewhere. So it will be awhile because I'm been so busy lately caring for my elderly father.
My kit was rated to 700hp and 7000rpm by speed-o-motive. The Mains are turned down to the cleveland journal size, 351-400M are bigger. The rod journals are off set turned to small block chevy size of 2.00 inches to get the stroke. I worked at a engine machine shop for 2 years. From commercial to race engines. Never saw a broken or twisted cast crank shaft that didn't throw a rod piston end first. It was that lose rod end that jammed against something that caused the damage. Cast cranks are far stronger then anything you can throw at them. The H beam rod length and piston pin location on piston are custom. I don't remember the specs on those..sorry.
that was a fast start up
Could listen to that all day! :)
DAMM, cleveland 393 are awesome, MONSTER SOUND
smaller POWER
i agree that cleveland must make around 450 hp
Did it ever get put in the Pantera? I'd love to see/hear that. :)
I beat the hell out of a 351 Cleveland for many years. 4bbl open chamberheads Crane cam can't remember spec's Tubular Automotive headers
8 single tubes #4 & #8 crossed over to other side Toploader 391 gears in a 66 gt.
I would that for a alarm so I hear that first thing every day
Awesome, but I'm a little shocked that you didn't use a roller cam & lifters. Any particular reason?
Great engine..sounds very very nice...What are you specs for design and build the test stand ? I have a cleveland also and have been assembing parts for about a year.. Thanks,
that was cool!
Sure would like to see the plans for the engine stand, where did you get the cable for the throttle??? or how did you make that??? Looks like 2 x 3 box tubing and some angle iron. I can do that no problem and the gauges rad and all. Just wonder about the throttle you made thanks.
Ear protection keeping his neck warm apparently and no fire extinguisher.
purrs like a kitten!
This needs to go into a 72 Torino Sport Fastback 4speed with 3:23:1 posi gears. ZOOM ZOOM!!
No, it belongs in a 1970 Mach 1.
Great sounding engine. Also going to build a stand here. Any specs on the engine? Stroker kit, heads, cam, compression and what kind of bellhousing is that?
No roller lifters?? Or I miss it in description??
So There's A Cleveland MTR.Plant Again,Original One Closed in 74 ?? Or Specs.Just the Same?
That was it's break in.......
That was about 3 minutes of it's break in. I ran it for about 30 minutes the first time. With a sound like this, it was hard to turn it off:>)
Did the guy think it was gonna be quiet?
do u know what the compression in psi is? I'm looking to build a stroker but have to stay under 155 psi. thanks. and vaccum more then 15 inches
Glidden put on everybody back in the day with a cleavland and they try to say a Ford won't run.B.S.
how could he time it at such high rpm?
0tube0user , setting the full advance timing determines top out or desired redline rpm range attainable.
Glad you said it so I didn’t need to lol
Oh look his wife has a new type of split dress. How nice.
Could you put some mufflers on the ends of the headers? No?
yes you can I used header hookups using cherry bombs back in 1980.Added cut outs couple years later,lived in texas then no problem
smart man check egt's
horsepower?
A bunch!
It sounds like its loading up on fuel a bit
like to know what carb he is using
Has ear muffs....covers one ear with his hand. 😕