Not to start anything but my personal favorite Spider-Man is this one right here. For once he looks like a teenager in high school. When Peter is talking Ned into disabling the "training wheels protocols" he complains that Tony treats him like a kid, as he jumps up and down on the motel bed. LOL
I really like that they chose not to show the origin of his powers or how it goes down with Uncle Ben. Its part of the story you already know, they didnt need to try and reinvent it for the movie
this version of spiderman is much more comic book accurate. He makes jokes when fighting bad guys pretty often. I will say though he does have an arc in later movies where he grows more mature with his age of course. so its not like hes a high school kid every movie. tom holland is my favorite mainly because of the accuracy of the comics and the broader story of the mcu including him
Karen a.k.a the suit lady’s voice actress is Jennifer Connelly, wife of Paul Bettany, who was the voice actor of Jarvis, now playing the role of Vision.
@LaerteSatan You keep saying Brooklyn. The 2008 Incredible Hulk movie features a battle between Hulk and Abomination in Harlem. That is on the island of Manhattan, not Long Island where you find Brooklyn. But its all good, friend! I like the 2008 Hulk movie too. It is 100% part of the MCU as the second film. The other Hulk film in 2003 I only saw once and ... it was pretty bad. That is the one we try to forget, lol.
The bomber jacket with the fur collar that the villain wears is intentional to evoke imagery of his comic book costume. He's The Vulture and his old costume is very very camp comic villain but it has a white fluffy/feathery ring around his neck.
Spiderman in the comics was just a kid and this is the best portrayal of that. Tobey's and Andrews were further from traditional Spiderman. Also Spiderman in the comics WAS a smacktalker. A smartass kid with superpowers.
They already done the origin story of spiderman with toby and andrew that the writers felt like they didn't need to go through that again which i appreciate. I wish they would do that with batman
Not to mention the TV shows and video games that have been coming out for decades. People know Spider-Man's origins some way or another by this point 😂
Toby was a 27-year-old man when he played Peter Parker as a high school student which I found ridiculous. He was over 30 when he graduated. Not realistic. At least Tom looks like a high school student. He is so much closer to the comics.
@@robertrouse4503 dude. Tom is close to 30 himself. He doesn't look like a teenager anymore either. The next Spider-Man movie is gonna need another 5 year time jump to make spidey sense.
From what I understand the writers also took into account the criticism that movies like batman and other popular comic book movies rehashing the origins of a character that they had seen so many times before. By this point everyone knows how Peter Parker gets his powers you can gloss over it with the conversation he has with Ned and continue on with the story and show how he grows into portraying Spiderman.
Tom hollands Spiderman is the best one, most comic accurate. Hes supposed to be a high school kid figuring things out, and hes supposed to mature over time which he will as u watch more. He also cracks jokes a lot in the comics while fighting bad guys. I cant stand when ppl have toby Mcguire bias
Sounds like u have the same bias. Everyone has their own favorite which has a lot to do with when a person watched them , folks who grew up on the raimi version usually likes that one , the younger crowd who grew up on the MCU and tom Holland tend to lean more towards that one
That final end credit scene with Cap was a self aware meta scene. By this time everyone expected end credits so in theaters, after waiting for something, at the very end Cap comes on talking about waiting for something big and being disappointed. It's brilliant!
The thing is, the picture that Liz drew would have been strange from a 13 or 14 year old, so they kind of painted themselves into a corner (pun intended)
Two things about this movie: 1) Toomes look is to mimic a Vulture, with the fire of his collar looking like the feathers around the vulture's neck. 2) the scene where Peter let's all the debris us from an actual Spider-Man comic. It's from a story sc m arc called "If This Be My Destiny". In the comic, Doctor Octopus buries him under tons of rubble and threatens to hurt innocent people and the ones he loves. This is when Spider-Man did drop and realizes he had to protect everyone.
First, I like the choice of calling the movie Homecoming; not just because of the dance, but also because (due to the arrangement Marvel had with Sony) this was the first Spider-Man movie made by Marvel, sort of celebrating his homecoming to the MCU. The comic has been going since the 60s, so there are lots of versions of Spider-Man. I loved the earlier movie versions but think I like this version more, because the constantly wise-cracking high school Peter is closer to what I remember from when I was reading the comics many years ago. And yes, everyone is attracted to Aunt May. I, like many others, have had a crush on Marissa Tomei for decades.
I appreciate that they had Peter as a teenage and didn't go back over his origin again. It's been done so many times you really don't enjoy the story. It's like the person who tells the same story over and over. You get bored.
The fur on his jacket was an attempt to make him look more like the comic book version of The Vulture - he had fur (or light coloured feathers) around his neck
It also creates a contrast between his character and his reality. He says that billionaires like iron man “don’t care about people like us” or “the little guy” however, he himself looks very well off, which he is.
The fur on Vulture's flight jacket is a nod to his look in the comics. His classic comic appearance includes a green body suit with a white fur collar and green wings.
Fun fact! Arron Davis the guy buying the weapons from the main bad guys (or the guy with the ice cream in his car) is actually miles Morales' uncle Arron! He is seen in spiderverse in a cage and miles looks at him and says "hey" :) I think that's so cool!! Especially since Tom Holland (Peters actor) says he hopes to bring miles to the mcu one day
this version of spider-man is most similar to the Ultimate version of spider man where Tony Starks is his mentor and provides him with techy suits. Ultimate Marvel are comics that are like reboots. X-men, Hulk, they all have them.
Everything that they show Peter’s suit doing is because of what happened to Tony previously. The automatic parachute was from when Tony was unconscious and fell in the first Avengers movie. The heated suit was because of Iron Man 3. The Karen AI is designed to be calm and supportive. There’s more examples than this. Looking forward to you both finishing this journey.
Really loved this film. The biggest complaint i see from Spider-Man fans is relating to how Spider-Man is so connected to Tony Stark and the world of the Avengers so early in his Spider-Man journey, even getting his first real suit from Tony Stark. But i do think this put's a nice spin on the character connecting him to Tony like Peter's the son Tony always wanted. I think fans just wanted Peter to work his way to the top like the comics where he begins all by himself with only his friends and Aunt May and over the course of years develops relationships with The Fantastic Four, Avengers, Daredevil, X-Men etc. Its not until his college years that Spider-Man started to take part in big crossovers and by Civil War in the comics Peter was in his early to mid 20s. The reason why we didn't get an origin story is mostly nicety because both Spider-Man (2002) and The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) already went over the whole origin story and I don' think Sony wanted to do that again for the MCU. But Marvel back during The Avengers (2012) did come to Sony with the idea of adding Oscorp Tower in the New York Skyline of Avengers which would've connected The Amazing Spider-Man to the MCU with Andrew Garfield. This never happened and when Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014) was being worked on Marvel came to Sony with the idea of adding Age of Ultron's Avengers Tower to the Manhattan Skyline in Amazing Spider-Man 2 but once again this never happened. Then Amazing Spider-Man 2 released and it didn't do the best so Sony and Marvel finally made the deal to add a new Spider-Man to the MCU. If we got Spider-Man earlier for the MCU then we'd most likely have an origin story with a few solo Spider-Man films throughout High School and College and then introduce Spider-Man into the world of The Avengers with Civil War, maybe have a scene in one of the Spider-Man films where Peter meets Iron Man for the first time while attending College putting him in his early 20s for Civil War. Ned is a very interesting character pretty much replacing Harry Osborn as Peter's best friend for this movie. Edward "Ned" Leeds was a reporter for the Daily Bugle, and the abusive husband of Betty Brant who is played by Angourie Rice in this film, yeah I can see why he was changed for the film. The Ned we see in this film is much more inspired by Ganke Lee the friend of Miles Morales AKA Spider-Man of Earth-1610, The Ultimate Universe. Again Harry was used in the other movies so I can see why they wanted to go for someone else. In the Mainline comics Peter doesnt meet Harry, Gwen or MJ until he attends College so maybe they'll introduce Harry later down the line
Like other's have said Spider-Man is more the jokey type like how Robert Downey Jr plays Tony Starks. In the comic's the joking is his nerves and to distract the (basically annoy villains)
Fun fact, the Principal’s Grandfather was in the Howling Commandos with Steve Rogers, that’s why he did all those videos as a favour. You can see the photo of him in the Principal’s office above the drawers.
Spider-Man isn't supposed to be more grown up and serious. He's supposed to be a smart-ass wisecracking high school kid who's younger than, and in many ways more immature than most other Marvel heroes. Tom Holland's Spider-Man is a much more faithful adaptation of the Spider-Man from the comics than Tobey Maguire's or Andrew Garfield's, and that has way more to do with the writing than anything else.
About Vulture doing the right thing: that was mostly in defence. Exposing SM identify targets not only him and his family, but also friends and especially love interests, including Ex. Meaning exposing SM to 3rd parties = harming own daughter. Regardless how big criminal Vulture is, he would not risk daughter for easy revenge.
Getting it is a Bentley is truly a car-lover's thing. I have noticed it before in other reactions, and I haven't even gotten to the Fast and Furious playlist yet.
The thing is that Peter was getting serious tunnel vision during the first half of the movie, he was so desperate to be an Avenger that his head was'nt on straight and he began to rely too much on his new suit. And it all came to a head on the ferry where he put himself at a huge disadvantage against an enemy who can fly and has access to very destructive weapons. His arc in this movie is learning to love the Peter Parker part of his life and accepting that he still has growing up to do as a hero. Tony also had to learn how to be a good mentor in this movie, he failed to communicate to Peter that he had been listening and had he done so Toomes would've been arrested right there on the Ferry. Remember without the suit Toomes is just a guy and he knew that.
The school he goes to is inspired by an actual NYC High School, "Bronx High School of Science", which is a public school, but you have to qualify for in order to get into (my dad went there for High School). BTW, Caltech, where I went to college, had an amazing number of people who had gone to Bronx HS of Science. So... really good school.
Tristan is right. This whole ordeal, the entire movie, could have been resolved by either Happy or Tony telling Peter "Thanks for the tip, we've got someone working on it. You don't need to do anything else. Good job Spider-Man." Instead every time Peter tries to get in contact with either of them they're like "shut up kid, get lost."
Yep. They seem to do this a lot in movies, not just the MCU. Where a simple phone call would've avoided a whole lot of trouble. Or even face-to-face communication. Tony has all the world's most advanced technology at his disposal, but he forgets how to communicate.
Thor Ragnarok is great movie it was my favourite movie until Avengers infinity war came out and before you watch thor Ragnarok memorize ending of thor the dark world more importantly memorize which character was where at end of thor the dark world this will going to help you for thor Ragnarok
Yea at different points in the comics and in different versions, Peter has romantic arcs with MJ, Liz Allen and Gwen Stacy and others. in the comic spider man ALWAYS talks and jokes with his enemies and he is usually immature.. The Tobey Mcguire was too serious for me personally, since im a comic book fan first. but the mainstream loves tobey.
Fun fact the principal at Peter Parker School grandfather was part crew in Captain America the the first avenger. He was the guy that said I'm from Fresno Ace
I quite liked they didn't make it another "Peter gets bitten by a spider" story. Rehashing the same stuff again, and again, and again, and then some more, and again, and again, and again... it gets boring. Also, as far as I can tell, not rehashing a standard Spiderman enemy and instead linking it to something that actually happened in the MCU -- also good.
The tiger mascot is paying homage to Mary Jane calling Peter Tiger and the white fur around Vultures neck is also from the comics. If you look closely to the picture in the principles office, you'll see it's from the war that Cap fought in and it's the principles grandfather who is actually the same guy lol
I always thought this felt more like a Miles Morales story than a Peter Parker story, but I’m good with it! The cast feels like everyone Miles Morales should have been with.
For us really old Spider Man comic book fans Tom Holland is much closer to the OG. Peter Parker is an awkward teenager, but when he's Spidey he's very snarky. Like when he confronts the ATM robbers and says "Whoa! The Avengers! Good to see you guys" Classic Spidey talk. His mentorship with Tony gives us the Stark hi tech Spidey suit, which is awesome. Also, the fur around Keaton's neck is a nid to the original Vulture. In the comics he is a really old, skinny man, with a green wing suit and white collar. Thus version is much better. I own all the Spider Man movies and I think Holland captured the duality of Peter/ Spidey the best. The acebe where he realizes Liz's dad is the Vulture is played so well. Holland plays it so well, as he just fumbles with the sudden Holy Shit! moment. It's so good, because we know why, but Toomes thinks he's just nervous about his date with his daughter. Soon enough you"ll understand why us comic book fans feel this is the best Spidey 😁
Yup, I thought Tobey's Peter was awkward enough and Andrew's was a bit too charismatic, but Andrew's Spidey had the snark and even though Tobey's did it didn't feel as natural or razor sharp. It doesn't help some of the script he was given has aged in worse ways. Tom's combines both in a much tidier balance. As far as romance arcs go, Andrew and Emma Stone's chemistry was electric, Tobey and Kirsten's whole thing just got on my nerves if I'm honest and Tom and Zendaya's is, again, a good middle ground.
@@TheChiraagG Good summary. I agree with virtually everything you say. Although, I think I like Zendayah's MJ more than Emma's Gwen. That's not because there's anything wrong with Stone's performance, it was great. It's just the snarky performance by Z was great. Her reply of "I just come here to draw people in crisis" had me laughing so much. Some people might argue that's not MJ from the comic books. I don't care. I'm old (as old as Spidey himself) and know the comic book MJ well, diverting from the comic book doesn't bother me 😁
@@caseybean1305 oh yeah she's a great MJ, I enjoy the snark and it works well for the teenage setting. Again nothing bad but that chemistry between Gwen and Peter is great. Both Zendaya's MJ and Emma's Gwen are resourceful, smart etc with Kirsten's MJ falling into damsel in distress tropes too much. That's more the product of the writing of the immature comic movie adaptation landscape at the time though I think. Also, Toomes as played by Keaton is excellent, agreed. His motivation is understandable and his redeeming elements are just teetering on the right side (not giving up Peter when in prison, not killing him outright beforehand and giving him a chance to remove himself from his business).
@@TheChiraagG Absolutely agree, Keaton's Toomes was fantastic. The car scene with Peter is one of the best and most tense scenes in the entire MCU, thanks to Keaton. Just behind the car scene is the reveal moment. They got me there. When Liz's front door opened and it was Toomes I felt the same shock as Peter. Holland played that whole scene perfectly I could feel his almost spinning disorientation, as he tried to process the shock. Don't get me wrong. Stone's Gwen was great and I even like Durst. Although your observation of her as too much damsel in distress is probably fair. That, as you pointed out, s likely writing, not Durst. I like things about each one of them. That's why NWH is so great. Holland comes closest though to capturing Peter completely. The scene in Civil War where he says..... "You have a metal arm? Cool" That is so Spidey. Or as Falcon has hold of him and is flying away and Peter is saying "you have the right to remain silent" 😂😂 That's the Spidey I know and love. 😁
They deliberately tried to differentiate this movie from the previous version. No origin story and more use of other MCU elements. It’s intentional that you don’t get to see him swinging through tall city buildings like every previous ones.
Maybe nobody mentioned this yet, but the Russo brothers who directer amongst others Captain America: the Winter Soldier were also director of several Community episodes (including the painball ones). That’s why you’ll see so many Community cast cameo’s.
9:39 Not that it's going to change much but for both Spider-Man (2002) and The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) they were both bitten at 17 instead of 15 like the comics and of the MCU so I guess it's better than them trying to pass as 15 year olds but still they don't pass as 17 even though some 17 years old look like their much older. For those original films I think they just wanted to get Peter out of the High School environment as in the comic Peter graduated high school in The Amazing Spider-Man #28 (1965) so that's only 28 issues of Peter being a High School student. Most of Spider-Man's important stories took place while he was in College or after he graduated in ASM #185 (1978) so for the films they just wanted to skip most of the High School setting as they can so they made Peter get bitten two years later. The reason why alot of people today think the High School setting was a much bigger part of Spider-Mans lore is thanks to Ultimate Spider-Man. This was a new re-imagined and modernized universe beginning with Ultimate Spider-Man (2000). This Spider-Man run solely focused on Peter as a High Schooler while also bringing in MJ, Gwen, and Harry into the same environment rather than Peter meeting them at College. The The Spectacular Spider-Man (2008-2009) cartoon did the same thing by focusing on his High School years and so alot of people grew up with a High School Peter Parker. For older Spider-Man fans who grew up on the Mainline comics the High School setting played a tiny part and went by in a few issues. It's why the 1990s Spider-Man Animated Series took place during Peter's College Years as that's what alot of people grew up reading.
I highly recommend the DCAU if you think the MCU is good the DCAU will blow you away. There are so many beautiful moments from the DCAU. It's the peak of comic book adaptations. I wish reaction channels would give the DCAU a chance they are missing out on some amazing animated shows.
The science teacher thattakes peter to washington for the trip is the same scie tice in the computer lab in the incredible hulk movie when banner shares the pizza when looking for his info on curing himself from the hulk
Liz not having a date for the homecoming dance is probably *the* most unrealistic part of this entire movie. IRL, I guarantee it she'd have already been asked by about 10 guys with 1 confirmed yes, 3 immediate back-up guys, and at least 3 additional "just in case" guys hanging around in her orbit.🤔
@havok6280 - Do you really think that out of at least 200 guys within 2 years of her own age(meaning Freshmen through Seniors, since Liz was a Sophomore), that there wouldn't be a measly 5% of them with the cojones to ask her to the dance?🤔 Law of averages in the real world aren't in favor of your argument.🤷♂️
@FreddyKurganNimmo it has nothing to do with averages. And where do you get the figure 200? It is an elite science high school. The student body is likely much smaller than that. My sister's high school for example had 50 students in her graduating class. Further, like Peter, they probably assumed she already had a date.
The principal peter was talking to is the same guybut playing different character from captain america the first avenger he played that character and plays his gra dson
If you haven't seen the Andrew Garfield Spiderman films, please make sure you add them to your list. Maybe after Endgame. All the Spidey flicks are part of the story (at least Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield. Not sure about Italian Spiderman)
the message is clear. 2nd watch confirmed. *i mean this only as a joke based on the comments on the last video, please don't take seriously... unless it is a 2nd time watch.
I think it's good that they didn't show Spider-Man's backstory. It's been covered so many times in movies, TV shows and comics, seeing it AGAIN would be pretty boring and, honestly, in my opinion a bit unneeded. This way, they have more time to focus on the new stuff, like his relationship with Tony.
Great reaction! The MCU version of Spider-Man is probably the closest to the comics version when it comes to his personality, both as Peter and as Spider-Man, and I like the fact that Tom Holland looks and acts like a teenager. That was the whole selling point of Spider-Man when Stan Lee and Steve Ditko first created him - he was the same age as the kids who were reading the comics, so readers could relate to him far more than they could relate to a 40 year-old millionaire like Tony. Up until then, teens in comics were always relegated to being a side-kick, such as Robin (Batman), Bucky (Captain America), Speedy (Green Arrow), etc. Spider-Man was the first time that a teenage hero had their own solo comic and it's one of the reasons he became so popular. I wasn't a fan of giving Spider-Man the Stark-tech suit at first, but I guess it makes sense in the context of the MCU and the relationship they built up between Peter and Tony.
Fun fact: Donald Glover being here is a big reference to BTS production and comic stuff. Donald Glover was up for the role of Peter in The Amazing Spider-Man (2012), and was even Stan Lee's pick for the role (Lee believed race was inconsequential for Peter). Glover lost the role to Garfield largely due to Sony's contract literally saying Peter had to be white, and in response, comic writer Brian Michael Bendis created the character of Miles Morales using Glover as a model, to have a black Spider-Man in the comics. The character Glover plays in this film is Aaron Davis, who is the uncle of Miles Morales. Also, you don't have to worry about HYDRA anymore, they're dead for good now. Wanna find out how? Watch Marvel's Agents of SHIELD where you can learn how HYDRA got destroyed!
In the comics, Gwen Stacy was Peter's high school girlfriend. M.J. was his college girlfriend. The web shooter cartridges are comic-accurate unlike the Tobey Maguire movies where the web shooter is organic.
Best live action Spider-Man film next to no way home and amazing Spider-Man 2012, I like Spider-Man 2 but tobey was a great adult peter but awful Spider-Man, Tom nails both sides
also if you back to Iron Man 2 during the final battle with the drones, there's a little kid in an Iron Man mask that Tony saves and he's like "Nice work kid", that's a young Peter
@LaerteSatan they don't know, because there's no way anyone could. They just want to drop their little facts that make them seem knowledgeable about marvel, despite the fact that at this point like 90% of marvel fans have never read a comic in their life.
20:50 that's not actually true. Spiderman has actually more raw power than Cap. But yes cap can give a very good fight due to his battle experience tho. Then again in civil war BOTH Cap and Spidey were pulling their punches so we never actually would know who's better🤷♂️
20:51 Captain can't do shit to Spiderman, it just the plot armor there lol spiderman is way too stronger than Captain. and Nostalgia is the big factor to like old spidermans, people who hated andrew's spider now are fan of andrews spidy
If yoy look like that, Peter was never in any danger in the car, he could snatch that gun away and break the guy;s arms 10 times before he could even blink.
@@harish123az in civil war peter was not trying to harm anyone just had fun with avengers here he acted like 16 year kid found that her gfs dad is the vulture, spidy is powerful though, peter never tries to kill.
Not to start anything but my personal favorite Spider-Man is this one right here. For once he looks like a teenager in high school. When Peter is talking Ned into disabling the "training wheels protocols" he complains that Tony treats him like a kid, as he jumps up and down on the motel bed. LOL
I mean I like the high-school aspect, but at the same time he's borderline infantalized.
@@virtualshark9203Infantalized? This cast doesn't act any less mature than any other American high school out there.
I really like that they chose not to show the origin of his powers or how it goes down with Uncle Ben. Its part of the story you already know, they didnt need to try and reinvent it for the movie
Exactly... we've already seen it in two films at that point so why revisit that?
@@Timmayytoo Yeah, we only need to see Batman's origin story, again and again and again and again
*flashbacks of Zack Snyder's slow motion death of the Waynes*@@JRSiebz
I swear, if I see those goddamn pearls hit the ground one more time...
this version of spiderman is much more comic book accurate. He makes jokes when fighting bad guys pretty often. I will say though he does have an arc in later movies where he grows more mature with his age of course. so its not like hes a high school kid every movie. tom holland is my favorite mainly because of the accuracy of the comics and the broader story of the mcu including him
Andrew Garfield's version is far more comic accurate especially in tasm 2.
Karen a.k.a the suit lady’s voice actress is Jennifer Connelly, wife of Paul Bettany, who was the voice actor of Jarvis, now playing the role of Vision.
Jennifer also played Betty in the hulk movie that's not part of the MCU
@LaerteSatan no it's not
@LaerteSatan if it was it'd be on Disney plus marvel time-line
@LaerteSatanhe was referring to the 2003 Hulk movie which Jennifer Connelly starred in, not the 2008 incredible Hulk movie.
@LaerteSatan You keep saying Brooklyn. The 2008 Incredible Hulk movie features a battle between Hulk and Abomination in Harlem. That is on the island of Manhattan, not Long Island where you find Brooklyn.
But its all good, friend! I like the 2008 Hulk movie too. It is 100% part of the MCU as the second film. The other Hulk film in 2003 I only saw once and ... it was pretty bad. That is the one we try to forget, lol.
This version is more in line with the comics than the 2000s Spider-Man. He's suppose to be a teenager.
Andrew is still the most comic accurate.
@@Mrsplifferdoodle in opinion it's Tom.
The bomber jacket with the fur collar that the villain wears is intentional to evoke imagery of his comic book costume. He's The Vulture and his old costume is very very camp comic villain but it has a white fluffy/feathery ring around his neck.
Spiderman in the comics was just a kid and this is the best portrayal of that. Tobey's and Andrews were further from traditional Spiderman. Also Spiderman in the comics WAS a smacktalker. A smartass kid with superpowers.
Andrew is literally the most comic accurate.
They already done the origin story of spiderman with toby and andrew that the writers felt like they didn't need to go through that again which i appreciate. I wish they would do that with batman
Not to mention the TV shows and video games that have been coming out for decades. People know Spider-Man's origins some way or another by this point 😂
Toby was a 27-year-old man when he played Peter Parker as a high school student which I found ridiculous. He was over 30 when he graduated. Not realistic. At least Tom looks like a high school student. He is so much closer to the comics.
@@robertrouse4503 dude. Tom is close to 30 himself. He doesn't look like a teenager anymore either. The next Spider-Man movie is gonna need another 5 year time jump to make spidey sense.
From what I understand the writers also took into account the criticism that movies like batman and other popular comic book movies rehashing the origins of a character that they had seen so many times before. By this point everyone knows how Peter Parker gets his powers you can gloss over it with the conversation he has with Ned and continue on with the story and show how he grows into portraying Spiderman.
I mean, Pattinson's Batman is not an origin story, it's year one bat's, but not origin.
" And you wander why you waited for so long for something so Disappointing" Captain America was to Funny for that 😂
Tom hollands Spiderman is the best one, most comic accurate. Hes supposed to be a high school kid figuring things out, and hes supposed to mature over time which he will as u watch more. He also cracks jokes a lot in the comics while fighting bad guys. I cant stand when ppl have toby Mcguire bias
Sounds like u have the same bias. Everyone has their own favorite which has a lot to do with when a person watched them , folks who grew up on the raimi version usually likes that one , the younger crowd who grew up on the MCU and tom Holland tend to lean more towards that one
Have you heard about andrew garfield 10 y old ???
No that title definitely belongs to Andrew.
That final end credit scene with Cap was a self aware meta scene. By this time everyone expected end credits so in theaters, after waiting for something, at the very end Cap comes on talking about waiting for something big and being disappointed. It's brilliant!
"8 YEARS LATER" is the biggest gaffe in the MCU. It's clearly 4 years later.
Yeah, that is really weird. How could they mess that up?
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@@testfire3000 Sony.
"A few years later:"
The thing is, the picture that Liz drew would have been strange from a 13 or 14 year old, so they kind of painted themselves into a corner (pun intended)
They didn’t need to do a 3rd Spider-Man origin movie, we already know the basics; high school teen, bit by a spider and uncles passes
Excited for Thor: Ragnarok you guys will love it
These guys have adjusted the their voice over volume and movie volume so well. Good work !!
Two things about this movie: 1) Toomes look is to mimic a Vulture, with the fire of his collar looking like the feathers around the vulture's neck.
2) the scene where Peter let's all the debris us from an actual Spider-Man comic. It's from a story sc m arc called "If This Be My Destiny". In the comic, Doctor Octopus buries him under tons of rubble and threatens to hurt innocent people and the ones he loves. This is when Spider-Man did drop and realizes he had to protect everyone.
The best live action Spider-Man film
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks this! Totally for sure agreed.
People are so stuck up to not admit tobey spidey was poorly written and has zero chemistry with mj. They're the hightop films crowd
The car ride to homecomming... You can cut that tension with a knife. SO intense.
First, I like the choice of calling the movie Homecoming; not just because of the dance, but also because (due to the arrangement Marvel had with Sony) this was the first Spider-Man movie made by Marvel, sort of celebrating his homecoming to the MCU. The comic has been going since the 60s, so there are lots of versions of Spider-Man. I loved the earlier movie versions but think I like this version more, because the constantly wise-cracking high school Peter is closer to what I remember from when I was reading the comics many years ago. And yes, everyone is attracted to Aunt May. I, like many others, have had a crush on Marissa Tomei for decades.
His villain name is the Vulture.
I appreciate that they had Peter as a teenage and didn't go back over his origin again. It's been done so many times you really don't enjoy the story. It's like the person who tells the same story over and over. You get bored.
“I’m looking at porn” stops any and all follow up questions.
The fur on his jacket was an attempt to make him look more like the comic book version of The Vulture - he had fur (or light coloured feathers) around his neck
It also creates a contrast between his character and his reality. He says that billionaires like iron man “don’t care about people like us” or “the little guy” however, he himself looks very well off, which he is.
He’s also bald like a vulture
The fur on Vulture's flight jacket is a nod to his look in the comics. His classic comic appearance includes a green body suit with a white fur collar and green wings.
6:35 the door moment with Tony and Peter was improvised but they liked it so much they kept it in the film
Fun fact! Arron Davis the guy buying the weapons from the main bad guys (or the guy with the ice cream in his car) is actually miles Morales' uncle Arron! He is seen in spiderverse in a cage and miles looks at him and says "hey" :) I think that's so cool!! Especially since Tom Holland (Peters actor) says he hopes to bring miles to the mcu one day
this version of spider-man is most similar to the Ultimate version of spider man where Tony Starks is his mentor and provides him with techy suits. Ultimate Marvel are comics that are like reboots. X-men, Hulk, they all have them.
Everything that they show Peter’s suit doing is because of what happened to Tony previously. The automatic parachute was from when Tony was unconscious and fell in the first Avengers movie. The heated suit was because of Iron Man 3. The Karen AI is designed to be calm and supportive. There’s more examples than this. Looking forward to you both finishing this journey.
People complain about mcu references in this film when it's like first on-screen Spider-Man go exist in a universe with other heroes
Really loved this film. The biggest complaint i see from Spider-Man fans is relating to how Spider-Man is so connected to Tony Stark and the world of the Avengers so early in his Spider-Man journey, even getting his first real suit from Tony Stark. But i do think this put's a nice spin on the character connecting him to Tony like Peter's the son Tony always wanted. I think fans just wanted Peter to work his way to the top like the comics where he begins all by himself with only his friends and Aunt May and over the course of years develops relationships with The Fantastic Four, Avengers, Daredevil, X-Men etc. Its not until his college years that Spider-Man started to take part in big crossovers and by Civil War in the comics Peter was in his early to mid 20s.
The reason why we didn't get an origin story is mostly nicety because both Spider-Man (2002) and The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) already went over the whole origin story and I don' think Sony wanted to do that again for the MCU. But Marvel back during The Avengers (2012) did come to Sony with the idea of adding Oscorp Tower in the New York Skyline of Avengers which would've connected The Amazing Spider-Man to the MCU with Andrew Garfield. This never happened and when Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014) was being worked on Marvel came to Sony with the idea of adding Age of Ultron's Avengers Tower to the Manhattan Skyline in Amazing Spider-Man 2 but once again this never happened.
Then Amazing Spider-Man 2 released and it didn't do the best so Sony and Marvel finally made the deal to add a new Spider-Man to the MCU. If we got Spider-Man earlier for the MCU then we'd most likely have an origin story with a few solo Spider-Man films throughout High School and College and then introduce Spider-Man into the world of The Avengers with Civil War, maybe have a scene in one of the Spider-Man films where Peter meets Iron Man for the first time while attending College putting him in his early 20s for Civil War.
Ned is a very interesting character pretty much replacing Harry Osborn as Peter's best friend for this movie. Edward "Ned" Leeds was a reporter for the Daily Bugle, and the abusive husband of Betty Brant who is played by Angourie Rice in this film, yeah I can see why he was changed for the film. The Ned we see in this film is much more inspired by Ganke Lee the friend of Miles Morales AKA Spider-Man of Earth-1610, The Ultimate Universe. Again Harry was used in the other movies so I can see why they wanted to go for someone else.
In the Mainline comics Peter doesnt meet Harry, Gwen or MJ until he attends College so maybe they'll introduce Harry later down the line
Like other's have said Spider-Man is more the jokey type like how Robert Downey Jr plays Tony Starks. In the comic's the joking is his nerves and to distract the (basically annoy villains)
Infinity war is about to blow their minds 🤯🤯
Fun fact, the Principal’s Grandfather was in the Howling Commandos with Steve Rogers, that’s why he did all those videos as a favour. You can see the photo of him in the Principal’s office above the drawers.
Spider-Man isn't supposed to be more grown up and serious. He's supposed to be a smart-ass wisecracking high school kid who's younger than, and in many ways more immature than most other Marvel heroes. Tom Holland's Spider-Man is a much more faithful adaptation of the Spider-Man from the comics than Tobey Maguire's or Andrew Garfield's, and that has way more to do with the writing than anything else.
About Vulture doing the right thing: that was mostly in defence. Exposing SM identify targets not only him and his family, but also friends and especially love interests, including Ex. Meaning exposing SM to 3rd parties = harming own daughter. Regardless how big criminal Vulture is, he would not risk daughter for easy revenge.
Getting it is a Bentley is truly a car-lover's thing. I have noticed it before in other reactions, and I haven't even gotten to the Fast and Furious playlist yet.
Where it says 8 years later is really meant to say 4 years later
Yeah, I never understood that screw-up. Or why they've never fixed it.
@@RobFMDetroit apparently its in the marvel sacred timeline book ive seen breakdowns of the book on youtube
Fun Fact
This guy here was one of Captain America's buddies in World War ll
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The thing is that Peter was getting serious tunnel vision during the first half of the movie, he was so desperate to be an Avenger that his head was'nt on straight and he began to rely too much on his new suit. And it all came to a head on the ferry where he put himself at a huge disadvantage against an enemy who can fly and has access to very destructive weapons. His arc in this movie is learning to love the Peter Parker part of his life and accepting that he still has growing up to do as a hero. Tony also had to learn how to be a good mentor in this movie, he failed to communicate to Peter that he had been listening and had he done so Toomes would've been arrested right there on the Ferry. Remember without the suit Toomes is just a guy and he knew that.
I really love the score of this movie. I know the older movies have great scores too, but I think the Homecoming Suite hits perfectly.
The school he goes to is inspired by an actual NYC High School, "Bronx High School of Science", which is a public school, but you have to qualify for in order to get into (my dad went there for High School).
BTW, Caltech, where I went to college, had an amazing number of people who had gone to Bronx HS of Science. So... really good school.
Bunch of NYC nerds, sounds like the highschool of nightmares, im just joking but also kinda not
My 1st movie I watched in cinema since leaving High school
Tristan is right. This whole ordeal, the entire movie, could have been resolved by either Happy or Tony telling Peter "Thanks for the tip, we've got someone working on it. You don't need to do anything else. Good job Spider-Man."
Instead every time Peter tries to get in contact with either of them they're like "shut up kid, get lost."
Yep. They seem to do this a lot in movies, not just the MCU. Where a simple phone call would've avoided a whole lot of trouble. Or even face-to-face communication. Tony has all the world's most advanced technology at his disposal, but he forgets how to communicate.
RIP Stan the man. Last Spidey Cameo
I agree with you about the first Spider-Man trilogies I prefered but I still love this version of Spider-Man
Thor Ragnarok is great movie it was my favourite movie until Avengers infinity war came out and before you watch thor Ragnarok memorize ending of thor the dark world more importantly memorize which character was where at end of thor the dark world this will going to help you for thor Ragnarok
Yea at different points in the comics and in different versions, Peter has romantic arcs with MJ, Liz Allen and Gwen Stacy and others. in the comic spider man ALWAYS talks and jokes with his enemies and he is usually immature.. The Tobey Mcguire was too serious for me personally, since im a comic book fan first. but the mainstream loves tobey.
I think Spider-Man/Peter Parker here is 15 yrs old, hence why Tony wants him to keep being a hero in small cases (friendly neighborhood spiderman)
Fun fact the principal at Peter Parker School grandfather was part crew in Captain America the the first avenger. He was the guy that said I'm from Fresno Ace
I quite liked they didn't make it another "Peter gets bitten by a spider" story. Rehashing the same stuff again, and again, and again, and then some more, and again, and again, and again... it gets boring. Also, as far as I can tell, not rehashing a standard Spiderman enemy and instead linking it to something that actually happened in the MCU -- also good.
The tiger mascot is paying homage to Mary Jane calling Peter Tiger and the white fur around Vultures neck is also from the comics. If you look closely to the picture in the principles office, you'll see it's from the war that Cap fought in and it's the principles grandfather who is actually the same guy lol
That one teacher runs the Academic Decathlon at this school AND The Model U.N. at Greendale Community College.
Hands down the funniest post-credit scene in the MCU 😂
I always thought this felt more like a Miles Morales story than a Peter Parker story, but I’m good with it!
The cast feels like everyone Miles Morales should have been with.
I haven’t seen anyone point it out yet but Aaron David is Miles Morales Uncle Aaron who in the games became The Prowler
Y'all said vulture suck but for MCU fans he's one of the best villains of MCU
Gwen was high school. MJ was Next door neighbour after Gwen till they get Married.
That fur on his coat is to resemble classic vulture look
Karen/Suit Lady is married to Jarvis/Vision.
Jennifer Connelly and Paul Bettany have been married since 01/01/03.
For us really old Spider Man comic book fans Tom Holland is much closer to the OG.
Peter Parker is an awkward teenager, but when he's Spidey he's very snarky. Like when he confronts the ATM robbers and says "Whoa! The Avengers! Good to see you guys" Classic Spidey talk.
His mentorship with Tony gives us the Stark hi tech Spidey suit, which is awesome.
Also, the fur around Keaton's neck is a nid to the original Vulture. In the comics he is a really old, skinny man, with a green wing suit and white collar. Thus version is much better.
I own all the Spider Man movies and I think Holland captured the duality of Peter/ Spidey the best. The acebe where he realizes Liz's dad is the Vulture is played so well. Holland plays it so well, as he just fumbles with the sudden Holy Shit! moment. It's so good, because we know why, but Toomes thinks he's just nervous about his date with his daughter.
Soon enough you"ll understand why us comic book fans feel this is the best Spidey 😁
Yup, I thought Tobey's Peter was awkward enough and Andrew's was a bit too charismatic, but Andrew's Spidey had the snark and even though Tobey's did it didn't feel as natural or razor sharp. It doesn't help some of the script he was given has aged in worse ways. Tom's combines both in a much tidier balance. As far as romance arcs go, Andrew and Emma Stone's chemistry was electric, Tobey and Kirsten's whole thing just got on my nerves if I'm honest and Tom and Zendaya's is, again, a good middle ground.
@@TheChiraagG Good summary. I agree with virtually everything you say. Although, I think I like Zendayah's MJ more than Emma's Gwen. That's not because there's anything wrong with Stone's performance, it was great. It's just the snarky performance by Z was great. Her reply of "I just come here to draw people in crisis" had me laughing so much. Some people might argue that's not MJ from the comic books. I don't care. I'm old (as old as Spidey himself) and know the comic book MJ well, diverting from the comic book doesn't bother me 😁
@@caseybean1305 oh yeah she's a great MJ, I enjoy the snark and it works well for the teenage setting. Again nothing bad but that chemistry between Gwen and Peter is great. Both Zendaya's MJ and Emma's Gwen are resourceful, smart etc with Kirsten's MJ falling into damsel in distress tropes too much. That's more the product of the writing of the immature comic movie adaptation landscape at the time though I think.
Also, Toomes as played by Keaton is excellent, agreed. His motivation is understandable and his redeeming elements are just teetering on the right side (not giving up Peter when in prison, not killing him outright beforehand and giving him a chance to remove himself from his business).
@@TheChiraagG Absolutely agree, Keaton's Toomes was fantastic. The car scene with Peter is one of the best and most tense scenes in the entire MCU, thanks to Keaton.
Just behind the car scene is the reveal moment. They got me there. When Liz's front door opened and it was Toomes I felt the same shock as Peter. Holland played that whole scene perfectly I could feel his almost spinning disorientation, as he tried to process the shock.
Don't get me wrong. Stone's Gwen was great and I even like Durst. Although your observation of her as too much damsel in distress is probably fair. That, as you pointed out, s likely writing, not Durst.
I like things about each one of them. That's why NWH is so great.
Holland comes closest though to capturing Peter completely. The scene in Civil War where he says..... "You have a metal arm? Cool" That is so Spidey. Or as Falcon has hold of him and is flying away and Peter is saying "you have the right to remain silent" 😂😂 That's the Spidey I know and love. 😁
EVERYONE knows Spider-Man's origin story by now.
They deliberately tried to differentiate this movie from the previous version. No origin story and more use of other MCU elements. It’s intentional that you don’t get to see him swinging through tall city buildings like every previous ones.
Maybe nobody mentioned this yet, but the Russo brothers who directer amongst others Captain America: the Winter Soldier were also director of several Community episodes (including the painball ones). That’s why you’ll see so many Community cast cameo’s.
9:39 Not that it's going to change much but for both Spider-Man (2002) and The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) they were both bitten at 17 instead of 15 like the comics and of the MCU so I guess it's better than them trying to pass as 15 year olds but still they don't pass as 17 even though some 17 years old look like their much older.
For those original films I think they just wanted to get Peter out of the High School environment as in the comic Peter graduated high school in The Amazing Spider-Man #28 (1965) so that's only 28 issues of Peter being a High School student. Most of Spider-Man's important stories took place while he was in College or after he graduated in ASM #185 (1978) so for the films they just wanted to skip most of the High School setting as they can so they made Peter get bitten two years later.
The reason why alot of people today think the High School setting was a much bigger part of Spider-Mans lore is thanks to Ultimate Spider-Man. This was a new re-imagined and modernized universe beginning with Ultimate Spider-Man (2000). This Spider-Man run solely focused on Peter as a High Schooler while also bringing in MJ, Gwen, and Harry into the same environment rather than Peter meeting them at College. The The Spectacular Spider-Man (2008-2009) cartoon did the same thing by focusing on his High School years and so alot of people grew up with a High School Peter Parker.
For older Spider-Man fans who grew up on the Mainline comics the High School setting played a tiny part and went by in a few issues. It's why the 1990s Spider-Man Animated Series took place during Peter's College Years as that's what alot of people grew up reading.
And of course, the MCU draws much more from the Ultimate universe than from the original.
I highly recommend the DCAU if you think the MCU is good the DCAU will blow you away. There are so many beautiful moments from the DCAU. It's the peak of comic book adaptations. I wish reaction channels would give the DCAU a chance they are missing out on some amazing animated shows.
The science teacher thattakes peter to washington for the trip is the same scie tice in the computer lab in the incredible hulk movie when banner shares the pizza when looking for his info on curing himself from the hulk
Is just me or the girl looks like the woman who kills charlie in Two and a half men?
Love your reactions! Grats from Brazil!
45:18 look at the photo in the principal’s office. It appears to be one of the soldiers from Captain America’s squad in the 40’s.
And in Peter class they have bruce banner photo
They skipped the origin because we on film twice
Loving and enjoying your Marvel journey; you're a cute couple and I like how you interact.
Liz not having a date for the homecoming dance is probably *the* most unrealistic part of this entire movie. IRL, I guarantee it she'd have already been asked by about 10 guys with 1 confirmed yes, 3 immediate back-up guys, and at least 3 additional "just in case" guys hanging around in her orbit.🤔
Disagree. High school boys can be intimated by hot girls. Comic book Flash would have asked her out, but MCU Flash is a nerdy DJ...
@macmel2160 loved to take her, yes. Have the nerve to approach her, no.
@havok6280 - Do you really think that out of at least 200 guys within 2 years of her own age(meaning Freshmen through Seniors, since Liz was a Sophomore), that there wouldn't be a measly 5% of them with the cojones to ask her to the dance?🤔 Law of averages in the real world aren't in favor of your argument.🤷♂️
@FreddyKurganNimmo it has nothing to do with averages. And where do you get the figure 200? It is an elite science high school. The student body is likely much smaller than that. My sister's high school for example had 50 students in her graduating class.
Further, like Peter, they probably assumed she already had a date.
"GOOD OLE SPIDERMAN" michael keaton looked creepy and cool as hell at the same time saying that lol
Im finally caught up with your MCU reactions! On to the next one :)
I can’t wait for you guys to see Thor Ragnarok. And…you’re SO CLOSE to Infinity War!!!
Vulture "I'll kill you, and everyone you love"
Peter: I love your daughter. You gonna kill her?
Vulture: Well played, Spiderman. Well played.
The principal peter was talking to is the same guybut playing different character from captain america the first avenger he played that character and plays his gra dson
The other guy in Jail is Mac Gargan Aka Scorpion
If you haven't seen the Andrew Garfield Spiderman films, please make sure you add them to your list. Maybe after Endgame. All the Spidey flicks are part of the story (at least Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield. Not sure about Italian Spiderman)
Great Reaction! You guys definitely need to watch The Amazing Spiderman with Andrew Garfield after the next Spiderman: Far From Home.
Do a First Times watching Disney's Sky High Superheroes Movie next!!
Tristan rocking 2 watches is a crazy flex
the message is clear. 2nd watch confirmed.
*i mean this only as a joke based on the comments on the last video, please don't take seriously... unless it is a 2nd time watch.
never seen that before but 2nd watch, as in rewatch is kinda funny
3:17 it's actually 4 years later instead of 8
I love the vulture theme music
The most pointless prediction for any movie is "Something's gonna happen." Yeah, somethings gonna happen for the movie to continue.
You guys jumped over Civil War / Winter Soldier/ The Black Panther????
Requires Movies Spiderman No Way Home
I think it's good that they didn't show Spider-Man's backstory. It's been covered so many times in movies, TV shows and comics, seeing it AGAIN would be pretty boring and, honestly, in my opinion a bit unneeded. This way, they have more time to focus on the new stuff, like his relationship with Tony.
Great reaction! The MCU version of Spider-Man is probably the closest to the comics version when it comes to his personality, both as Peter and as Spider-Man, and I like the fact that Tom Holland looks and acts like a teenager. That was the whole selling point of Spider-Man when Stan Lee and Steve Ditko first created him - he was the same age as the kids who were reading the comics, so readers could relate to him far more than they could relate to a 40 year-old millionaire like Tony. Up until then, teens in comics were always relegated to being a side-kick, such as Robin (Batman), Bucky (Captain America), Speedy (Green Arrow), etc. Spider-Man was the first time that a teenage hero had their own solo comic and it's one of the reasons he became so popular.
I wasn't a fan of giving Spider-Man the Stark-tech suit at first, but I guess it makes sense in the context of the MCU and the relationship they built up between Peter and Tony.
Bruh I just realised, why does tristan have two watches on?
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL SOOO MUCHHH!
Fun fact: Donald Glover being here is a big reference to BTS production and comic stuff. Donald Glover was up for the role of Peter in The Amazing Spider-Man (2012), and was even Stan Lee's pick for the role (Lee believed race was inconsequential for Peter). Glover lost the role to Garfield largely due to Sony's contract literally saying Peter had to be white, and in response, comic writer Brian Michael Bendis created the character of Miles Morales using Glover as a model, to have a black Spider-Man in the comics. The character Glover plays in this film is Aaron Davis, who is the uncle of Miles Morales.
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It's not Falcon it's Vulture.
Make sure you react to the amazing Spider-Man films they're flawed but Andrew is an incredible Peter parker Spider-Man
Spider-Man is supposed to be cheeky jokster (which tobey lacked) deadpoo!s look and personality Is partly based on Spider-Man just more violent
@@danielhead8123 Yep ! Lot of people say that Tobey was a good spiderman but honestly I Loved And Andrew's and Tom's fun loving spiderman more
In the comics, Gwen Stacy was Peter's high school girlfriend. M.J. was his college girlfriend. The web shooter cartridges are comic-accurate unlike the Tobey Maguire movies where the web shooter is organic.
Best live action Spider-Man film next to no way home and amazing Spider-Man 2012, I like Spider-Man 2 but tobey was a great adult peter but awful Spider-Man, Tom nails both sides
also if you back to Iron Man 2 during the final battle with the drones, there's a little kid in an Iron Man mask that Tony saves and he's like "Nice work kid", that's a young Peter
@LaerteSatan they don't know, because there's no way anyone could. They just want to drop their little facts that make them seem knowledgeable about marvel, despite the fact that at this point like 90% of marvel fans have never read a comic in their life.
Not to mention, Marvel Studios didn't have the rights to use Spider-Man or Peter at that time.
@@hypersleepdialogues8889 Tom Holland said that himself, they retconned that to be young Peter
@c-mc how would tom Holland know that? And who is they?
@@hypersleepdialogues8889 we live in the internet era, google it yourself
I've come to love this spiderman
Originally I was ok with it
20:50 that's not actually true. Spiderman has actually more raw power than Cap. But yes cap can give a very good fight due to his battle experience tho. Then again in civil war BOTH Cap and Spidey were pulling their punches so we never actually would know who's better🤷♂️
in a scenario if they both mad and try to kill each other then spidy would have won, like we saw what he did to goblin in no way home.
@@ro0t115 yep most probably!
20:51 Captain can't do shit to Spiderman, it just the plot armor there lol spiderman is way too stronger than Captain.
and Nostalgia is the big factor to like old spidermans, people who hated andrew's spider now are fan of andrews spidy
Cap is more experienced though.
@@Shritistrang Thats like saying a thin guy with experience can beat Eddie Hall
If yoy look like that, Peter was never in any danger in the car, he could snatch that gun away and break the guy;s arms 10 times before he could even blink.
@@harish123az in civil war peter was not trying to harm anyone just had fun with avengers here he acted like 16 year kid found that her gfs dad is the vulture, spidy is powerful though, peter never tries to kill.
Can you watch the dark knight