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I think Clay respects his father too much, and can’t wrap his mind around someone he respects making a conscious decision to hurt the people he loves. Since that’s confusing for him, he believes cheating is something that can’t really be controlled. my theory at least. he def needs therapy
Yes completely agree. It felt like at the wedding Clay's dad was even subtly pushing him to say no by not encouraging him to say yes at all. And clay has a really weird relationship with his dad where he craves his dad's approval
In that way hes still really immature, many people grow up seeing their parents being hypocritical and realize they lie like anyone. That clay hasn't gotten here is really concerning.
I commend Trevor for coming to the reunion. Most villains try to hide but he actually showed his face. The way he was dragged? Amazing. The damn near 2 minute awkward silence? LEGENDARY. Him asking to leave like a little schoolboy asking to use the restroom? *Brilliant* The way they ignored him and kept dragging him? ICONIC! This is what I’m here to see, top tier entertainment. 10/10!
I would’ve almost felt bad except I remembered how he threatened to leak his ex’s sex tape to her family if she leaked their texts then I didn’t care again
I'm not surprised he got up and left instead of trying to sit there for an hour and try to defend himself. Like all you can do is a walk of shame stage left.
Clay didn’t come on the show to marry somebody he came on the show and used the show and whatever woman he chose (it didn’t have to be AD) as a vehicle for therapy and to basically “test drive” a marriage scenario and how he would behave in said scenario , and the conclusion he came to is he know he’s gonna cheat bc of unresolved baggage, and he already knew that and that’s great he acknowledged that, but ultimately he didn’t need to come on the show to reaffirm things about himself he already knew, he just wasted AD’s time lol
Clay has trauma from his father taking him along on his cheating sprees. I think by his father exposing him to that and him not understanding enough to tell his mom he probably felt like he also cheated on her in a sense which is why he speaks as if cheating isn't a choice because little Clay didn't have the choice of not "betraying" his mom when his dad dragged him along and he has carried that "helplessness" into his adulthood.
Kennie, let me first say that I been following you since you were in Korea doing k-beauty. As a black African woman who sometimes feels like my views are too "out there" for my fellow black girls, that long rant at 37:01 is the most seen and heard I've ever felt. I see and feel these things in the exact same way. I'm so proud to be a longterm home skillet biscuit. May we be the generation that gets to walk away and not get a weak "yeah" when we tell the men that terrorised our lives and left a trail of trauma that they didn't treat us right. LET THAT 🥭
I relate so hard to the failed Danish tears. I finally got a warm croissant from this bakery I like, and I dropped it when some lady bumped into me. It was the last one 😢
oh my god that’s so tragic, like genuinely there have been days where that would’ve been the very last straw for me !! and even if it’s not the last straw, that’s a day-ruiner right there. wishing u many more croissants my fellow internet stranger 🙏
I genuinely think if jess didn’t have a kid, jimmy would’ve picked her over Chelsea. I know a lot of people think he only picked Chelsea because she said she look like Megan Fox and was blinded from that moment on but I really think it was mainly because Jess had a kid and he wasn’t trying or ready to be a step father. Just my opinion
Just the clips you showed of AD’s mom make me suspect Mom is caught in the eternal parental dilemma of trying to figure out how to tell your kid that something is a really really bad idea without triggering your kid’s “That means it’s the best idea ever!” reflex.
I got to this video late. But when Kennie asked about what goes through the mind of someone who is forced to face their actions, in regards to Clay's dad. It's indeed the self-loathing. My grandfather had this exact conversation with my grandmother. Though he was a lot more remorseful than Clay's dad. It was just like an instant "What have I done with my life ?. At the end of the day, my grandmother and grandfather loved each other till he passed away, even though divorced. But he was forced to look at what his life could've been if he had just been good to her , and therefore to his family.
Don't stone me but I do see Sarah's point of view. She was in the love is blind experience like everyone else. Under a different circumstance her talking to an engaged man would be unacceptable but in a show where you're already dating someone at the same time as someone else to me it's understandable everything was fresh, they've gotten to know each other on a deep level, and she fell in love. The blame falls 100% on Jeremy because he chose incorrectly and was too chicken to break it off instead of being dishonest to his ex fiance like he did. Also I find it strange that no one had the same energy for the lady with the daughter when she did the same thing. She was able to breeze past it.
I really loved your comment about Black women and feeling the need to be ride or die/ therapists in relationships! I do think there's a lot of social stigma and like expectation for how Black woman should be and act in relationships! BUT YES PLEASE NORMALIZE NOT FEELING LIKE YOU HAVE TO STICK THINGS OUT IN RELATIONSHIPS, we don't always need to play the healer/ the unconditional lover ESPECIALLY when it is hurting us or draining our own energy!
I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t constantly checking if Kennie had uploaded her vid on this mess. I don’t watch the show but with the amount of commentary vids about the reunion that got recommended to me I knew it was going to be a good ride.
Jeramey doesn't understand that it's still inappropriate to have long conversations in a car with your ex until 5am when you have a fiance... He seems to think it's fine as long as they didn't bang
Really loved your rant. While I haven’t been in a romantic relationship, I’ve been in situations where I felt like I was giving and giving and never receiving. While I’m glad I’m not in those situations anymore, I still feel like giving to be helpful but not receiving help because I don’t need it. It’s a bad habit to stop 😅
Re: 1:03:00, it reminds me of when Howard Stern doubted Freddie Prinze JR and Sarah Michelle Gellar's staying power to Freddie and bet him it wouldn't last. Stern said Freddie would be a different person at 35. Freddie said that's alright because she would be a different woman. It's RECIPROCAL.
i love how insightful your thoughts are. you have a beautiful way of expanding on important topics from a unique perspective while also including some comedic relief for the heavier subjects. it truly elevates your content to another level. always looking forward to your videos!!
Kennie, OMG. You look so. damn. GOOD. with the slicked back, tight ponytail and a little braid!!! GORGEOUS. You always look amazing, and this is yet another style hit
not even 12 minutes in and i can tell you this is EXACTLY what i needed. Kennie completely redoing the fight with chelseas whine is a golden bit of comedy
I can relate to being on edge (of a bridge); I cried while getting waxed (bc I felt like shit, not pain) this past Friday and my esthetician dried my tears.
The way I waited for you to cover this knowing that there was no way I was going to watch it but I was for sure going to listen to you talk about it is insane
I know Clay needs (and is now getting) therapy, but AD needs therapy too! People don’t just become fixers. She needs to figure out why she can’t yet feel “good enough” just as she is without make validation or approval.
I was going to show my friend your channel and then she said "Her? Oh she's funny." She knew who you were already and that made me happy. I think it's great to experience your essence through your videos.
So I'm late to discovering Kennie, and this whole series. Spent the past week binge watching the playlist. I just gotta say, I so so so enjoyed your commentary on the couples, and individual dynamics. All of the things you saw in a person, and what might be the root of it, and also what characteristics like those could lead to. I enjoy watching commentary on these types of shows, but I usually lose interest fast cause it's just dramatizing the drama. But your commentary was not only entertaining as fuck, but so refreshing, and honestly made me think of myself and how I have acted in relationships. I really saw myself in I think it was the Jackie/Marshall situation. I saw myself in both of them in ways I've acted towards different partners. It was a sobering moment to see the bad outcome of what could have been for me if I hadn't stopped in my tracks and changed. Anyways, thanks for suffering through these shows for our entertainment 💕✌🏾
0:51 Omg, girl, I feel you. I have been there. I once cried while watching an episode of Project Runway. My roommate walked in and I was laughing while balling my eyes out explaining to him how it feels to real but it so obviously dumb.
I don't watch Love is Blind, so idk what you're talking about tbh, but I'm feeling super emotional right now, so I am SO here for this energy. I love it. 😂
you being hormonal was me all week at work this week. i work at costco and sometimes they rotate me into doing cart runs for 2hrs at a time and i wanted to die 😊😭 sometimes i go to the back of the parking lot and let out a guttural scream. it's very nice.
So excited for the commentary, I needed something to listen to on the way to work. Just as I was about to go out the door, my body died and decided motivation wasn’t a thing today. No judgement on the PMS day.
I just don't understand how Clay could idolize his dad when the real parent who should be given that respect and love is his mother! I really think that Clays dad is the root of all his cheating and intimacy problems. He was so deeply involved in his dads shitty behavior as a child that he internalized all the cheating as something you can't control to continue idolizing his dad comfortably. It's almost sad to think that Clay lacks insightfulness and hasn't moved on from his childhood mindset of making excuses for his dad, but then again, seeing how he took advantage of AD's "I can fix him" tendencies and sympathy for him makes me less inclined to feel sympathetic for Clay myself 🤷🏽♀️
I totally understand your crying over absolutely everything and nothing while hormonal. It's so annoying. You're so valid and real for being open about hormones being bullshit. ❤
I do really understand clay for not being ready but still wanting to continue with AD. Love grows over time. You don’t have to know if you want to marry a person a couple weeks later meeting them. I’ve been with my boyfriend for a year now and I didn’t know if I could see myself marrying him right away. Now I see it and now I really love him but it took time. If you “love” someone right away, that’s not love that’s attraction, sparkles, butterflies. Not love. Love needs time. Love needs to develop and grow by truly getting to know the person, warts and all, not just the way they present themselves in the first weeks/months.
I have a theory: ADs mom and AD put on love is blind season 4 on purpose. Not on season 5 (the latest) or season 1 (the beginning) because of tiff and Brett. I believe they wanted to show clay that if him and AD got married, they could be that beautiful black excellence love story and be featured on covers of magazines and all that comes with it.... That's why Clay choked at the altar he knew it wasn't responsible. And why AD went so hard playing victim because she needed a good narrative towards her regardless
I have seriously been waiting for this. I don't watch the show at all and watch your commentary. Other youtubers have been talking about it but I refrained from watching, waiting for your video. So I know something happened, but I dont know what.
40:48 ya know how I got my fixer upper fixed up? I didn’t date him 😂 we were friends for years as we fixed ourselves (woooo therapy!) and now that we’re actually adults we’re like oh, ok, we can try this now. If we started at the beginning? I bet his name would make me puke, we were both toxic af in our late teens/early 20s.
The grossest part from Clay was him still coming up to badger her after, leave her alone, let her move on, now they flirting on the reunion. He managed to have his cake and eat it too, while making AD look a fool.
"okay body" had me in TEARS 😭😭 man WHAT? there's nothing wrong w complimenting your bride's looks but i feel like it just highlighted how shallow his affections for her were
“Okay body” is something you say later on when y’all are dancing or something. Saying it as SHE WALKS DOWN THE AISLE??? So unromantic lol. It saddens me that he doesn’t have any respectable gentleman to look up to.
yeahhh real. like i’m someone who doesn’t get complimented on my body a lot, so it would mean a lot to me to hear something like that, and i STILL wouldn’t want to hear it *as i’m walking down the aisle.* like, you should be crying or going “woah” or otherwise marveling at ME, not just my body, and i will do the same for my partner one day !! but i suppose it’s hard to expect them to have that kind of reaction when they’ve only dated for two months. it’s never going to be the wedding you wanted because it’s on reality tv lol
She then responded with “see the material” which is based on her looks and body. It’s so sad cause she’s allowed her worth to be reduced like that. Yes, AD you are gorgeous but girlie no. And I wished she had brought up the sexualisation of her body by the cast at the reunion. It’s even worse when he knew he’d say no in that moment, knew he didn’t want marriage from the start because of his fears and bullshitted some shit about finances after his dad gassed him up - AFTER AD said she wasn’t going to date you with a no. I still think it was the right decision cause he did need work and AD shouldn’t need to wait around if he wasn’t willing to or unable to (not the same things in every situation) pour into her the same away she would. She was willing to wait until he was ready in her own words, captain save a ho. Blessing in disguise.
Honestly, the way Clay talks about cheating makes me think he’s afraid it’s genetic & that, because his dad was a cheater, he’s inevitably going to end up the same. It’s probably compounded by the fact his dad involved Clay in his cheating escapades & modelled that behaviour to him from a young age. I’m glad he’s finally getting the help he needs & I hope he is able to get to a place where he no longer fears himself.
As a Black woman, we are also socialized to believe that a man will change for the”right woman.” That’s also why we take on a lot of “we are not enough.”
THAT part…and so much romantic literature (which I consumed as a romlit nerd)opines on how WE as black women have to sacrifice our peace to be the peace for everyone else but ourselves. Dare I say it’s almost diabolical…
It’s time for black women to be more critical. I’m not listening to someone who’s teaching me a lesson that does not not live in reality - when men are shitty, they often continue to be shitty to women no matter what. So all women need to get out as soon as possible when you realize that person is a project. Men are the easiest thing to get.
My mother once said this to me in reference to a narcissistic, abusive ex that I was with for nearly 5 years after I finally built up the courage to leave his ass for good 🙃needless to say, therapy is going well...
If you're acting as your partner's therapist, then don't be surprised that once their done their supposed growth, they'll move on from you. That's because the dynamic was on you taking care of him, and him focused on himself, that's not romance. Romance is meant to be reciprocated by both, and when that doesn't happen, one or both end up miserable.
From the jump also he was saying he likes to be babied, that term isn't wrong in certain context but it was blatantly apparent he wanted her to baby his feelings and faults. I just don't understand how you could say you care about a person and then not tell them you don't want to get married in private and then try to make her feel bad about her reaction to it.
@@melvv18 I mean that's basically what I said lol, he wanted his feelings to be babied but then when he did something that hurt her he didn't seem to be able to return the favor
Thanks to being a therapist to them for 6+ years, only to discover that when I needed them (my temporarily homeless era, if you will) they left for someone else they'd been hanging out with that whole summer, then blocked me and then slandered me publically for becoming "manipulative" (read: needing their attention and for them to stop disappearing to hang out with their "friend" lol), I've decided I'll just be single. I'll never treat me wrong 💖🥲
this is about an older episode but i thought this was important to show just how heavily edited and revised this show is. a youtuber who goes by 'psychology in seattle' has a contact who works on the show and they said that there was actually a whole segment where AD talked about being uncomfortable with the "bean dip" situation and voicing her concern about her body constantly being the subject of attention and getting hypersexualized/objectified all the time. the psychologist made sure to say, "why have the segment where her body was always the topic of discussion and then not have her own voice heard? there was no point for its inclusion unless it was racially motivated and to sanitize laura's character and make everyone who targeted AD look better."
I'm honestly at the point where I wish Black women would stop appearing on these shows at all. It just doesn't serve us collectively or individually. The media already has a vested interest in portraying us a certain way and you cannot win the battle against an editor
@@Kay-kg6ny THISSS! These dating shows tend to be edited so we're perceived in a negative light. I noticed this is especially true for darker-skinned women. I wish we would stop auditioning to be cast on these dating shows forreal. I hate to see the mistreatment.
100%, I never understood why it was glossed over as a "teehee I'm such a jokester" when it's like really REALLY wierd and gross. I almost wish somebody had made a similar statement about Jeremy (before the cheating part) cause I bet it would have been hell on earth.
People are mad that Clay got all the way to the altar (after voicing his doubts) just to reject her. I mean he knew he wasn’t ready for marriage. Instead he humiliated AD in front of her family and wasted the time of everyone that attended.
But the thing is , AD annoys tf out of me too because even after, she’s still playing games with him. I no longer see her as a victim of him but a willing participant
@@Momogizibo Oh, absolutely, I agree! I honestly wouldn’t have given him a chance after how voiced the importance of looks in the pods, but that’s just me 🤷🏽♀️
One time I sobbed at the grocery store because there was a single sweet potato on the ground in a random aisle. Like - someone dropped it and just *left* it there??? 😢😢😢😢
Chelsea said in an interview that when they had that fight about Jimmy going out without her, they didn’t show that he actually lied to her and he had told her/FaceTimed her saying he was going to bed and then a few minutes later he accidentally buttdialed her back and was with his girl friends and was talking about which bar they wanted to go to. Editing did her DIRTY with that one! He lied lied
@@Hilo-gk3ix I can only assume its because of what the LIB team has done to her in edits that she might not even want to speak up about it on the same damn show. Hell I'd keep my mouth shut and just wait to be interviewed by others who haven't already done me dirty too.
On AD & Clay’s wedding: Khadija Mbowe just put out a FANTASTIC video echoing Kennie’s sentiments about black women in particular and “struggle love” and I highly recommend everyone watch it!
I honestly believe Jimmy doesn't love Chelsea and didn't want to be with her ever since he saw her out of the pods. He just didn't want to look like the bad guy on tv
Netflix seriously needs to revamp/restructure their casting process due to so many of the contestants on the show have been exposed for being concerningly problematic or for being fake/clout chasers. Their negligence with casting has compromised the safety of the contestants (there have been multiple contestants that have had domestic abuse allegations come out) and resulted in other contestants (who are there for clout) ruining the premise of the whole show. At the rate that they’re going, the company’s messiness is going cause their viewers to stop watching the show.
Right? The Lacheys were like “we don’t want people coming here motivated by fame” so stop reaching out to influencers through IG to come on your show???
ya as fucked up as it is for the trevors to want to come on this show, at the end of the say it's the producers of the show whose responsibility it is to prevent so many people like that from even being able to get on the show. like how are regular people on the internet so much better at sleuthing that professionals who are supposed to do that job lol
"There's something about lying that makes your scalp issues more visible". Yep. That's how I got over my 2 year high school crush. He lied to me and then suddenly I discovered he had greasy smelly hair the entire time.
i really wish they would have addressed Kenneth and Brittney more. not the gay rumors cuz that is irrelevant but mostly why he seemed so cold towards her and essentially stone walled her. And also how she coped with that and was able to deal with the gaslighting and coldness he showed toward her. i feel like they let him off too easy compared to everyone else.
From what I’ve heard, the breakup scene that we saw between them was a renactment and they had already had a civil conversation breaking up before they got back from the tropical trip. If it is true that production made them fake it for the camera then it would make sense that they let them off easy at the reunion and didn’t fully dive into it
@@LikeNewMonae that would make a lot of sense because in the beginning they were one of the most talked about couples and they got like 2 minutes at the reunion.
While kenneth being "cold" and "stone walling" was hard to watch, I truly don't think it was malicious or something to tear into him for. Some people are just very dry communicators, I had an ex like this. She got very dry during fights, but she definitely cared and that was seen through her actions. The show is edited in a way that I'm not too sure Kenneth was completely an asshole
Kenneth acting like everyone else didn’t take off two weeks of work and had to play catch up when they got back. He’s a principal, not a surgeon with patients waiting on their death bed. Is there not a vice principal at the school who can handle things in his absence?
@@TheDawnofVanlife a surgeon, or more accurately a hospital, is going to have people that take over for the leave a principle may not. that's entirely up to funding, in my area the principal is also the area superintendent there is no back up. So likely it was a group of teachers attempting to handle his work while he was gone.
@@TheDawnofVanlife this is such a disappointing and mediocre monded comment. Taking off time for some dumb crap LIKE THIS reflects poorly on his character and if you don't think so, I'd like yo guess you're a product of trash education.
Look I can’t even say nun cause I cried after I dropped my grinded weed on the backseat of my suv 😭😭 shit looked like I sprinkled parsley everywhere 😭😭😭😭
I think the greatest thing on this entire season is that, not only did Clay's mom get to say her piece to his dad, but she got to do it in front of a very large and sympathetic audience. To me, that would feel incredibly satisfying after experiencing such betrayal.
As a psych major working towards a career as a psychologist, I 100% agree with you. We’re taught in school to NEVER counsel our friends and family because it’s 1. A conflict of interest and 2. Not our job in that relationship. You’re bound to give bad advice and cause more harm than good
I one day realized my friend who was getting her masters to be a therapist was such a good listener because she never offered her opinions lol, just asked gentle questions to get more information. So I was like 'does it bother you when people go off about their problems to you' and she basically said 'no but I have been trained not to offer my friends therapy so I can mostly just listen.' A bit eye-opening.
also, it is very telling to me that clay's father only spoke about HIMSELF before his son's wedding. even going as far as saying that he was "living vicariously through" clay. all clay did, all season was talk about himself CONSTANTLY. it's interesting how clay's father issues manifest themselves in his behaviour! an endless cycle of trauma
People are mad about the "okay body" remark but what really got me heated was how not ONCE in his "vows" did he mention what he liked about her, just what she DOES for him yet she still said I Do. When AD said she'll paint her nails red to match red flags in episode 1 she really meant it. I hope she heals and starts putting herself first.
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Clay treats cheating like it’s part of his family’s medical history.
Honestly 🤣💀
He talks like it's hereditary and he's waiting for it to surface within himself
Top tier take
I just bursted out laughing LMAOOOOOOOO
Clay was treating cheating like it was a history of cancer
I think Clay respects his father too much, and can’t wrap his mind around someone he respects making a conscious decision to hurt the people he loves. Since that’s confusing for him, he believes cheating is something that can’t really be controlled. my theory at least. he def needs therapy
Great point!
Yes completely agree. It felt like at the wedding Clay's dad was even subtly pushing him to say no by not encouraging him to say yes at all. And clay has a really weird relationship with his dad where he craves his dad's approval
100%, this is so insightful
I was just thinking that.
In that way hes still really immature, many people grow up seeing their parents being hypocritical and realize they lie like anyone. That clay hasn't gotten here is really concerning.
I commend Trevor for coming to the reunion. Most villains try to hide but he actually showed his face. The way he was dragged? Amazing. The damn near 2 minute awkward silence? LEGENDARY. Him asking to leave like a little schoolboy asking to use the restroom? *Brilliant* The way they ignored him and kept dragging him? ICONIC!
This is what I’m here to see, top tier entertainment. 10/10!
They were making an example of him for others in the future
As they should because what do you mean “can I leave now?” No, you’re gonna sit there and be held accountable for the shit you did.
I would’ve almost felt bad except I remembered how he threatened to leak his ex’s sex tape to her family if she leaked their texts then I didn’t care again
I'm not surprised he got up and left instead of trying to sit there for an hour and try to defend himself. Like all you can do is a walk of shame stage left.
I'm sure he only came because he is on the other show and wants to clean up his image before it airs.
The way Clay thinks cheating is hereditary and fated to happen is INSANE
Yeah, the trauma is definitely real.🥴
Yeah if not becoming like your parents was easy. There wouldn't be so many issues and discussions around it lol
Clay didn’t come on the show to marry somebody he came on the show and used the show and whatever woman he chose (it didn’t have to be AD) as a vehicle for therapy and to basically “test drive” a marriage scenario and how he would behave in said scenario , and the conclusion he came to is he know he’s gonna cheat bc of unresolved baggage, and he already knew that and that’s great he acknowledged that, but ultimately he didn’t need to come on the show to reaffirm things about himself he already knew, he just wasted AD’s time lol
i avoided all the love is blind content i could so i can get the pure unfiltered experience of kennie's commentary. highlight of my saturdays
😂same
Clay has trauma from his father taking him along on his cheating sprees. I think by his father exposing him to that and him not understanding enough to tell his mom he probably felt like he also cheated on her in a sense which is why he speaks as if cheating isn't a choice because little Clay didn't have the choice of not "betraying" his mom when his dad dragged him along and he has carried that "helplessness" into his adulthood.
Kennie, let me first say that I been following you since you were in Korea doing k-beauty. As a black African woman who sometimes feels like my views are too "out there" for my fellow black girls, that long rant at 37:01 is the most seen and heard I've ever felt. I see and feel these things in the exact same way. I'm so proud to be a longterm home skillet biscuit.
May we be the generation that gets to walk away and not get a weak "yeah" when we tell the men that terrorised our lives and left a trail of trauma that they didn't treat us right. LET THAT 🥭
I relate so hard to the failed Danish tears. I finally got a warm croissant from this bakery I like, and I dropped it when some lady bumped into me. It was the last one 😢
oh my god that’s so tragic, like genuinely there have been days where that would’ve been the very last straw for me !! and even if it’s not the last straw, that’s a day-ruiner right there. wishing u many more croissants my fellow internet stranger 🙏
@@plushdragonteddy Many thanks to you, kind stranger. 😪
Croissants are absolutely worth crying over, imho
I genuinely think if jess didn’t have a kid, jimmy would’ve picked her over Chelsea.
I know a lot of people think he only picked Chelsea because she said she look like Megan Fox and was blinded from that moment on but I really think it was mainly because Jess had a kid and he wasn’t trying or ready to be a step father. Just my opinion
I totally agree. He genuinely liked her but couldn’t get pass the fact that he might have to step in and become a father to her daughter
Just the clips you showed of AD’s mom make me suspect Mom is caught in the eternal parental dilemma of trying to figure out how to tell your kid that something is a really really bad idea without triggering your kid’s “That means it’s the best idea ever!” reflex.
About AD, it's bot about being nice, but about wanting what you want so bad that you will dismiss your own intuition and intelligence.
I got to this video late. But when Kennie asked about what goes through the mind of someone who is forced to face their actions, in regards to Clay's dad. It's indeed the self-loathing. My grandfather had this exact conversation with my grandmother. Though he was a lot more remorseful than Clay's dad. It was just like an instant "What have I done with my life ?. At the end of the day, my grandmother and grandfather loved each other till he passed away, even though divorced. But he was forced to look at what his life could've been if he had just been good to her , and therefore to his family.
The way I yelled “FINALLY” when I got this notification
Don't stone me but I do see Sarah's point of view. She was in the love is blind experience like everyone else. Under a different circumstance her talking to an engaged man would be unacceptable but in a show where you're already dating someone at the same time as someone else to me it's understandable everything was fresh, they've gotten to know each other on a deep level, and she fell in love. The blame falls 100% on Jeremy because he chose incorrectly and was too chicken to break it off instead of being dishonest to his ex fiance like he did. Also I find it strange that no one had the same energy for the lady with the daughter when she did the same thing. She was able to breeze past it.
I really loved your comment about Black women and feeling the need to be ride or die/ therapists in relationships! I do think there's a lot of social stigma and like expectation for how Black woman should be and act in relationships! BUT YES PLEASE NORMALIZE NOT FEELING LIKE YOU HAVE TO STICK THINGS OUT IN RELATIONSHIPS, we don't always need to play the healer/ the unconditional lover ESPECIALLY when it is hurting us or draining our own energy!
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t constantly checking if Kennie had uploaded her vid on this mess.
I don’t watch the show but with the amount of commentary vids about the reunion that got recommended to me I knew it was going to be a good ride.
Jeramey doesn't understand that it's still inappropriate to have long conversations in a car with your ex until 5am when you have a fiance... He seems to think it's fine as long as they didn't bang
Really loved your rant. While I haven’t been in a romantic relationship, I’ve been in situations where I felt like I was giving and giving and never receiving. While I’m glad I’m not in those situations anymore, I still feel like giving to be helpful but not receiving help because I don’t need it. It’s a bad habit to stop 😅
Re: 1:03:00, it reminds me of when Howard Stern doubted Freddie Prinze JR and Sarah Michelle Gellar's staying power to Freddie and bet him it wouldn't last. Stern said Freddie would be a different person at 35. Freddie said that's alright because she would be a different woman. It's RECIPROCAL.
I love how all those men were reacting to Clay lol.
i love how insightful your thoughts are. you have a beautiful way of expanding on important topics from a unique perspective while also including some comedic relief for the heavier subjects. it truly elevates your content to another level. always looking forward to your videos!!
Kennie, OMG. You look so. damn. GOOD. with the slicked back, tight ponytail and a little braid!!! GORGEOUS. You always look amazing, and this is yet another style hit
not even 12 minutes in and i can tell you this is EXACTLY what i needed. Kennie completely redoing the fight with chelseas whine is a golden bit of comedy
the shaky crying voice going ”let me tell you about love is blind 😭😭😭” is honestly so appropriate
Jimmy is far from innocent, he is full of it!! He’s a master manipulator and strategist. Chelsea is absolutely unbearable.
I can relate to being on edge (of a bridge); I cried while getting waxed (bc I felt like shit, not pain) this past Friday and my esthetician dried my tears.
The way I waited for you to cover this knowing that there was no way I was going to watch it but I was for sure going to listen to you talk about it is insane
am I the only one who sees red whenever jeremy speaks 💀 his voice is so ARRRGHGD
I know Clay needs (and is now getting) therapy, but AD needs therapy too! People don’t just become fixers. She needs to figure out why she can’t yet feel “good enough” just as she is without make validation or approval.
37:31 the very long rant portion, girl I needed to hear that. I’m not gon listen tho but thank u speaking on it 😭
Your Chelsea impression is devastatingly accurate
I was going to show my friend your channel and then she said "Her? Oh she's funny." She knew who you were already and that made me happy. I think it's great to experience your essence through your videos.
Struggle love ain't it and never will be!
So I'm late to discovering Kennie, and this whole series. Spent the past week binge watching the playlist.
I just gotta say, I so so so enjoyed your commentary on the couples, and individual dynamics. All of the things you saw in a person, and what might be the root of it, and also what characteristics like those could lead to. I enjoy watching commentary on these types of shows, but I usually lose interest fast cause it's just dramatizing the drama. But your commentary was not only entertaining as fuck, but so refreshing, and honestly made me think of myself and how I have acted in relationships. I really saw myself in I think it was the Jackie/Marshall situation. I saw myself in both of them in ways I've acted towards different partners. It was a sobering moment to see the bad outcome of what could have been for me if I hadn't stopped in my tracks and changed. Anyways, thanks for suffering through these shows for our entertainment 💕✌🏾
Hey Kennie, if you’re looking for an ultra-messy show I suggest Temptation Island on USA. It’s the Ultimatum but turned up a notch
It feels like I’ve been waiting FOREVERR for your reaction to Trevor 😄
Girl I got off work yesterday and was waiting for this. I almost watched the show itself 😭♥️
For the reunion I loved that they weren’t skipping over (most) things but it was so much time spent on old contestants
0:39 This opening is alarming, but makes me so excited for the rest of this video
0:51 Omg, girl, I feel you. I have been there. I once cried while watching an episode of Project Runway. My roommate walked in and I was laughing while balling my eyes out explaining to him how it feels to real but it so obviously dumb.
Weepy hormonal Kennie is hysterical in such a relatable way, I'm nearly crying laughing 😅😂
your chelsea impression is spot on i'm dying
I don't watch Love is Blind, so idk what you're talking about tbh, but I'm feeling super emotional right now, so I am SO here for this energy.
I love it. 😂
you being hormonal was me all week at work this week. i work at costco and sometimes they rotate me into doing cart runs for 2hrs at a time and i wanted to die 😊😭 sometimes i go to the back of the parking lot and let out a guttural scream. it's very nice.
"I almost cried...just then...AH" I felt that 0:28
I love Russell just crawling around in the background - so cute 😭❤️
SAME ABOUT THE PMS KENNIE 😭 ive cried three times today 😭
So excited for the commentary, I needed something to listen to on the way to work. Just as I was about to go out the door, my body died and decided motivation wasn’t a thing today. No judgement on the PMS day.
I just don't understand how Clay could idolize his dad when the real parent who should be given that respect and love is his mother! I really think that Clays dad is the root of all his cheating and intimacy problems. He was so deeply involved in his dads shitty behavior as a child that he internalized all the cheating as something you can't control to continue idolizing his dad comfortably. It's almost sad to think that Clay lacks insightfulness and hasn't moved on from his childhood mindset of making excuses for his dad, but then again, seeing how he took advantage of AD's "I can fix him" tendencies and sympathy for him makes me less inclined to feel sympathetic for Clay myself 🤷🏽♀️
I can watch 90 videos on LIB but yours is the only one that matters
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO....TURN IT UP!!!!😫😩
IM GOING HOME FROM VEGAS RN AND IVE BEEN WAAAITING FOR THIS ✨🤍
Kenny I would love to see you in the show omg that would be so funny
Your Chelsae portrayal is on point 😂😂😂😂 Hmmm, that chick is something else 😳😮💨
I totally understand your crying over absolutely everything and nothing while hormonal. It's so annoying. You're so valid and real for being open about hormones being bullshit. ❤
I do really understand clay for not being ready but still wanting to continue with AD. Love grows over time. You don’t have to know if you want to marry a person a couple weeks later meeting them. I’ve been with my boyfriend for a year now and I didn’t know if I could see myself marrying him right away. Now I see it and now I really love him but it took time. If you “love” someone right away, that’s not love that’s attraction, sparkles, butterflies. Not love. Love needs time. Love needs to develop and grow by truly getting to know the person, warts and all, not just the way they present themselves in the first weeks/months.
Unfortunately this is love is blind. It’s about marriage not finding a bf or gf. Even though I think that would be much more reasonable
I have a theory: ADs mom and AD put on love is blind season 4 on purpose. Not on season 5 (the latest) or season 1 (the beginning) because of tiff and Brett. I believe they wanted to show clay that if him and AD got married, they could be that beautiful black excellence love story and be featured on covers of magazines and all that comes with it....
That's why Clay choked at the altar he knew it wasn't responsible. And why AD went so hard playing victim because she needed a good narrative towards her regardless
i turned away for a moment and the series of BLEEPS sent me
I appreciate you talking about the real effects of PMSing on life during those days
Girl you should watch the perfect match its absolutely insane
I have seriously been waiting for this. I don't watch the show at all and watch your commentary. Other youtubers have been talking about it but I refrained from watching, waiting for your video. So I know something happened, but I dont know what.
25:32 all the bleeps are sending me into orbit😂😂😂😂
40:48 ya know how I got my fixer upper fixed up? I didn’t date him 😂 we were friends for years as we fixed ourselves (woooo therapy!) and now that we’re actually adults we’re like oh, ok, we can try this now. If we started at the beginning? I bet his name would make me puke, we were both toxic af in our late teens/early 20s.
"he's a legion."
the chug at the beginning is SUCH a MOOD
17:21 Eminem's Just lose It, chorus
almost threw out my back dodging Love Is Blind content because I wanted to save myself specifically for Kennie's video about it
The grossest part from Clay was him still coming up to badger her after, leave her alone, let her move on, now they flirting on the reunion. He managed to have his cake and eat it too, while making AD look a fool.
i just found your videos yesterday and I LOVE THEM!! you make me laugh so much
Ahhhhhhh, I’ve been waiting 🤩
Nice flowers kennie😏
Look at the MATERIAL is crazy
LOOL seeing Kennie on Love is Blond would be hilarious!!
I think this season a lot of ppl related to AD, me one of them, as a darker skin women trying to navigate love and societal pressures and self love
“i am on the edge. and it’s not of glory, it’s of a bridge.” genuinely have never related to kennie more than in this moment.
she’s always so real omg
Same
The wayyyy I felt so seen 😭
YESS
Never felt more seen in my life honestly.
"okay body" had me in TEARS 😭😭 man WHAT? there's nothing wrong w complimenting your bride's looks but i feel like it just highlighted how shallow his affections for her were
“Okay body” is something you say later on when y’all are dancing or something. Saying it as SHE WALKS DOWN THE AISLE??? So unromantic lol. It saddens me that he doesn’t have any respectable gentleman to look up to.
yeahhh real. like i’m someone who doesn’t get complimented on my body a lot, so it would mean a lot to me to hear something like that, and i STILL wouldn’t want to hear it *as i’m walking down the aisle.* like, you should be crying or going “woah” or otherwise marveling at ME, not just my body, and i will do the same for my partner one day !! but i suppose it’s hard to expect them to have that kind of reaction when they’ve only dated for two months. it’s never going to be the wedding you wanted because it’s on reality tv lol
She then responded with “see the material” which is based on her looks and body. It’s so sad cause she’s allowed her worth to be reduced like that. Yes, AD you are gorgeous but girlie no. And I wished she had brought up the sexualisation of her body by the cast at the reunion.
It’s even worse when he knew he’d say no in that moment, knew he didn’t want marriage from the start because of his fears and bullshitted some shit about finances after his dad gassed him up - AFTER AD said she wasn’t going to date you with a no. I still think it was the right decision cause he did need work and AD shouldn’t need to wait around if he wasn’t willing to or unable to (not the same things in every situation) pour into her the same away she would. She was willing to wait until he was ready in her own words, captain save a ho. Blessing in disguise.
To me it sounded like he was a girlfriend of hers 😬 he’s in the closet. Hard.
@@SmellMyKnee15Y'all need to stop projecting because you most likely had a bf cheat on you with a man. It's sad.
The way Clay talks about cheating like its a demon lurking around ready to take over his body and soul is hilarious
I think he enjoys cheating and he’s only using his Dad’s history as an excuse/ crutch of why he does it. If he really wanted to, he would.
Lmao perfect description
😂 this is it
And he doesn't want to get better at being faithful? That seems suspicious how he sees cheating is something that happens...
Honestly, the way Clay talks about cheating makes me think he’s afraid it’s genetic & that, because his dad was a cheater, he’s inevitably going to end up the same. It’s probably compounded by the fact his dad involved Clay in his cheating escapades & modelled that behaviour to him from a young age. I’m glad he’s finally getting the help he needs & I hope he is able to get to a place where he no longer fears himself.
Jeramy’s mother realizing on camera that she raised an idiot was 10/10
As a Black woman, we are also socialized to believe that a man will change for the”right woman.” That’s also why we take on a lot of “we are not enough.”
THAT part…and so much romantic literature (which I consumed as a romlit nerd)opines on how WE as black women have to sacrifice our peace to be the peace for everyone else but ourselves.
Dare I say it’s almost diabolical…
Your own men are racist towards you. Must be a reason why. Yikes.
It’s time for black women to be more critical. I’m not listening to someone who’s teaching me a lesson that does not not live in reality - when men are shitty, they often continue to be shitty to women no matter what.
So all women need to get out as soon as possible when you realize that person is a project. Men are the easiest thing to get.
Too true. Doesnt help at all that we already were made to feel like we arent the "beauty preference" to the entire world.
My mother once said this to me in reference to a narcissistic, abusive ex that I was with for nearly 5 years after I finally built up the courage to leave his ass for good 🙃needless to say, therapy is going well...
If you're acting as your partner's therapist, then don't be surprised that once their done their supposed growth, they'll move on from you. That's because the dynamic was on you taking care of him, and him focused on himself, that's not romance. Romance is meant to be reciprocated by both, and when that doesn't happen, one or both end up miserable.
From the jump also he was saying he likes to be babied, that term isn't wrong in certain context but it was blatantly apparent he wanted her to baby his feelings and faults. I just don't understand how you could say you care about a person and then not tell them you don't want to get married in private and then try to make her feel bad about her reaction to it.
@@Shyknit Wanting babied isn't bad, if you're willing to do the same. The problem was, that he was using her for his growth and she ate it up.
@@melvv18 I mean that's basically what I said lol, he wanted his feelings to be babied but then when he did something that hurt her he didn't seem to be able to return the favor
@@Shyknit Yeah, I'm just agreeing lol
Thanks to being a therapist to them for 6+ years, only to discover that when I needed them (my temporarily homeless era, if you will) they left for someone else they'd been hanging out with that whole summer, then blocked me and then slandered me publically for becoming "manipulative" (read: needing their attention and for them to stop disappearing to hang out with their "friend" lol), I've decided I'll just be single. I'll never treat me wrong 💖🥲
this is about an older episode but i thought this was important to show just how heavily edited and revised this show is. a youtuber who goes by 'psychology in seattle' has a contact who works on the show and they said that there was actually a whole segment where AD talked about being uncomfortable with the "bean dip" situation and voicing her concern about her body constantly being the subject of attention and getting hypersexualized/objectified all the time. the psychologist made sure to say, "why have the segment where her body was always the topic of discussion and then not have her own voice heard? there was no point for its inclusion unless it was racially motivated and to sanitize laura's character and make everyone who targeted AD look better."
I'm honestly at the point where I wish Black women would stop appearing on these shows at all. It just doesn't serve us collectively or individually. The media already has a vested interest in portraying us a certain way and you cannot win the battle against an editor
Are you serious that would be amazing ton see 😭
Omg I love dr honda!!
@@Kay-kg6ny THISSS! These dating shows tend to be edited so we're perceived in a negative light. I noticed this is especially true for darker-skinned women. I wish we would stop auditioning to be cast on these dating shows forreal. I hate to see the mistreatment.
100%, I never understood why it was glossed over as a "teehee I'm such a jokester" when it's like really REALLY wierd and gross. I almost wish somebody had made a similar statement about Jeremy (before the cheating part) cause I bet it would have been hell on earth.
People are mad that Clay got all the way to the altar (after voicing his doubts) just to reject her. I mean he knew he wasn’t ready for marriage. Instead he humiliated AD in front of her family and wasted the time of everyone that attended.
I knew he didn't want her in the pods 🤦🏿♀️ this season was nothing but competition and insecurity blinding love
"I can work with this"
But the thing is , AD annoys tf out of me too because even after, she’s still playing games with him. I no longer see her as a victim of him but a willing participant
@@Momogizibo Oh, absolutely, I agree! I honestly wouldn’t have given him a chance after how voiced the importance of looks in the pods, but that’s just me 🤷🏽♀️
And then let his dad on camera to give a not so humble brag about his past sports accomplishments. Like sir, bye 😂
One time I sobbed at the grocery store because there was a single sweet potato on the ground in a random aisle. Like - someone dropped it and just *left* it there??? 😢😢😢😢
I'm so sorry you had to see that, hope you're in a better place now (without any forgotten potatoes lying around). ❤
@@frankensteinlivesTy ❤
One time I cried because I wanted ice cream and when I got it it didn't taste like how I wanted it to. PMS is a beast
I once dropped my bag of wonderbread and cried because HOW CAN I DROP BREAD IT'S DIRTY NOW I RUINED BREAD 😭😭.
Right like thats just so fkng rude. That sweet potato probably felt so alone😂
Chelsea said in an interview that when they had that fight about Jimmy going out without her, they didn’t show that he actually lied to her and he had told her/FaceTimed her saying he was going to bed and then a few minutes later he accidentally buttdialed her back and was with his girl friends and was talking about which bar they wanted to go to. Editing did her DIRTY with that one! He lied lied
Yeah these reality shows should never be trusted with how they set up people to fall into "storylines" and change the context of situations
OOF I have not heard this!!! What interview was it??
I wonder why she didn’t address it at the reunion?
@@spacebaby07 it was on Sarah Alysse’s podcast with Chelsea! Around 39 minutes in :) he is such a liar and got a great edit
@@Hilo-gk3ix I can only assume its because of what the LIB team has done to her in edits that she might not even want to speak up about it on the same damn show. Hell I'd keep my mouth shut and just wait to be interviewed by others who haven't already done me dirty too.
On AD & Clay’s wedding: Khadija Mbowe just put out a FANTASTIC video echoing Kennie’s sentiments about black women in particular and “struggle love” and I highly recommend everyone watch it!
Omg seconded! Yes!
YESSSSS IT WAS SO GOOD
Third it's amazing;!!
I love Khadija. Her videos are always so good
Yes, loved that video
"I want you... to be good to her" is SO giving "Reki, my love........... of skateboarding is because of you" 😭
god that line is amazing 💀
That scene ☠️🌴🌴
Nooooo, the flashbacks 😫.
Nah, but Imma need an mlm Love is Blind or the ultimatum NEOWWWW.
The English dub was wild😂😂😂 But I mean it said what we were all thinking
@@inosuke7002anime will literally never rise above "bitches, bros and nonbinary hoes"
I honestly believe Jimmy doesn't love Chelsea and didn't want to be with her ever since he saw her out of the pods. He just didn't want to look like the bad guy on tv
Netflix seriously needs to revamp/restructure their casting process due to so many of the contestants on the show have been exposed for being concerningly problematic or for being fake/clout chasers. Their negligence with casting has compromised the safety of the contestants (there have been multiple contestants that have had domestic abuse allegations come out) and resulted in other contestants (who are there for clout) ruining the premise of the whole show. At the rate that they’re going, the company’s messiness is going cause their viewers to stop watching the show.
Right? The Lacheys were like “we don’t want people coming here motivated by fame” so stop reaching out to influencers through IG to come on your show???
The fact that they intentionally reach out to some of these clout-chasing people and encourage them to apply is also kinda sus.
Hopefully it will change when Chelsea takes over. She has confirmed this season was casted before she took over so who knows
ya as fucked up as it is for the trevors to want to come on this show, at the end of the say it's the producers of the show whose responsibility it is to prevent so many people like that from even being able to get on the show. like how are regular people on the internet so much better at sleuthing that professionals who are supposed to do that job lol
@@zama_kay Yeah casting people like that isn't a "flaw" in these castings, it's a feature
"There's something about lying that makes your scalp issues more visible". Yep. That's how I got over my 2 year high school crush. He lied to me and then suddenly I discovered he had greasy smelly hair the entire time.
All the guys reacting to Clay saying no at the altar made me die of laughter, but it was also sweet. Especially that dad that just yelled "AH!" 😂😂
seriously it warmed my heart so much
Me too 😂
Loved it 😂 my husband also said ‘he’s a psychopath’ so hearing another man say that made me diiie 💀
I want a whole compilation video of all the men reacting to it 😂
It was my fav part
i really wish they would have addressed Kenneth and Brittney more. not the gay rumors cuz that is irrelevant but mostly why he seemed so cold towards her and essentially stone walled her. And also how she coped with that and was able to deal with the gaslighting and coldness he showed toward her. i feel like they let him off too easy compared to everyone else.
From what I’ve heard, the breakup scene that we saw between them was a renactment and they had already had a civil conversation breaking up before they got back from the tropical trip. If it is true that production made them fake it for the camera then it would make sense that they let them off easy at the reunion and didn’t fully dive into it
Kenneth is either gay or a pedo. The interactions were just too weird
@@LikeNewMonae that would make a lot of sense because in the beginning they were one of the most talked about couples and they got like 2 minutes at the reunion.
While kenneth being "cold" and "stone walling" was hard to watch, I truly don't think it was malicious or something to tear into him for. Some people are just very dry communicators, I had an ex like this. She got very dry during fights, but she definitely cared and that was seen through her actions. The show is edited in a way that I'm not too sure Kenneth was completely an asshole
You telling me Kenneth took off being a whole principal to FIND LOVE on a REALITY TV SHOW????? LMAOOOO
Lol this comment is hilarious, but it's only 2 weeks in the pods, then they go back to real life/ work.
Kenneth acting like everyone else didn’t take off two weeks of work and had to play catch up when they got back. He’s a principal, not a surgeon with patients waiting on their death bed. Is there not a vice principal at the school who can handle things in his absence?
@@TheDawnofVanlife a surgeon, or more accurately a hospital, is going to have people that take over for the leave a principle may not. that's entirely up to funding, in my area the principal is also the area superintendent there is no back up. So likely it was a group of teachers attempting to handle his work while he was gone.
@@verda_renee his students absolutely clowned on hom for this tho, its lowley embarrassing
@@TheDawnofVanlife this is such a disappointing and mediocre monded comment. Taking off time for some dumb crap LIKE THIS reflects poorly on his character and if you don't think so, I'd like yo guess you're a product of trash education.
Not the PMS tears about the DANISH 😂😂😂 girllllll
Look I can’t even say nun cause I cried after I dropped my grinded weed on the backseat of my suv 😭😭 shit looked like I sprinkled parsley everywhere 😭😭😭😭
@@OGseouliteok I would have cried too 😭 pms or no
@@OGseoulitenot parsley! 😭😭😭😭😭 Honey that hurt me and I don’t even toke a piece of a leaf.
@@OGseouliteHoney, my heart goes out to you! I've dropped ground weed on the front passenger seat floor and that is The! Worst! 😭
I think the greatest thing on this entire season is that, not only did Clay's mom get to say her piece to his dad, but she got to do it in front of a very large and sympathetic audience. To me, that would feel incredibly satisfying after experiencing such betrayal.
cheating is calling out to that one guy like it’s the green goblin mask 😭😭
As a psych major working towards a career as a psychologist, I 100% agree with you. We’re taught in school to NEVER counsel our friends and family because it’s 1. A conflict of interest and 2. Not our job in that relationship. You’re bound to give bad advice and cause more harm than good
I one day realized my friend who was getting her masters to be a therapist was such a good listener because she never offered her opinions lol, just asked gentle questions to get more information. So I was like 'does it bother you when people go off about their problems to you' and she basically said 'no but I have been trained not to offer my friends therapy so I can mostly just listen.' A bit eye-opening.
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That’s an excellent point! Really puts “fixer” relationships in perspective
also, it is very telling to me that clay's father only spoke about HIMSELF before his son's wedding. even going as far as saying that he was "living vicariously through" clay. all clay did, all season was talk about himself CONSTANTLY. it's interesting how clay's father issues manifest themselves in his behaviour! an endless cycle of trauma
People are mad about the "okay body" remark but what really got me heated was how not ONCE in his "vows" did he mention what he liked about her, just what she DOES for him yet she still said I Do. When AD said she'll paint her nails red to match red flags in episode 1 she really meant it. I hope she heals and starts putting herself first.