Would love to see you react to the movie Election. Random thought stemming from SJP and Matthew Broderick being married, I suppose. Thanks for your content, sis. Sending love and light your way. ❤
Much like your sister I remember watching bits and pieces of reruns when I was way too young because sex and the city was everywhere and it was every icon's fav show but then when I was an actual teen I watched a couple of full episodes and I remember being so disappointed!! I hated Carrie, I thought it was stupid and very much not the fun feminist positive show I was expecting and I just gave up on it
You should definitely watch Living Single. It's far more progressive and speaks about working in your twenties and thirties in corporate America with natural hair, being a single woman in the workplace, dating in your twenties in New York City as Black people, has fashionable people and healthy relationships, etc. It's the show Friends stole word for word
I know this is controversial from a black person, but Friends was a better show than Living Single. And it’s as much of Seinfeld clone and a redo of Living Single.
i tried watching it in 2019 and all i remember is samantha is great and carrie thinks everyone is a freak/weirdo hahah i got annoyed and didnt finish the show
@howvery_ how is that your take? I literally never understand the people who shit on carrie but love Samantha, Samantha is like the definition of internalized mysgony and pick me
I never understood why people thought it was feminist...especially when Miranda, a confident and successful lawyer, kept chasing after a man who was so insecure, he broke up with her because she out-earned him and cheated on her (instead of constructively working on their sex life WITH her) because she didn't feel like having sex with him after having a BABY. Also, they did Blair Underwood dirty. Hands down.
Sex and The City honestly could have doubled as a horror series because the way Carrie was OBSESSED with Natasha and borderline stalking her throughout the series was giving ‘Single White Female the Remix’.
Yes! She is my fav of the girls. Despite how much they tried to play her and down her, she was the only one with her head on straight throughout the series.
Also, not being able to have a kid naturally. She's that type of person that plans things out years in advance. So, having fertility issues and divorcing made her more likable. I really couldn't stand her the first few seasons.
@LasBlackUnicrn I always felt like she was the only one who was truly passionate about her work. Like Samantha and Miranda were hardworking and heading toward the top of their fields (Carrie didn't seem to challenge herself enough to care), but Charlotte brought others into her work and really cared beyond "this is my job and I need to be successful." And it feels like a real assassination of her to just make her quit with no internal conflict when she married Trey. Like, yes, she had a life plan and probably would quit eventually to be a mom, but the way it came about has always made me mad.
Can't remember who said it, but my favorite quote about SatC was "it's a group of women acting like gay men, because the director wasn't allowed to make a show about gay men." When you look at it that way it makes a lot more sense. Either way I'm glad it exists lol.
I’m not sure where to find that a good thing or bad thing. Considering how the main lead is fundamentally an awful person, yet the show usually keeps taking her side.
I enjoyed how charlotte out of everyone surprisingly did what even Miranda the cynic was incapable of doing was ditch a man who did not match with her standards. Even though she was optimistic she knew the type of life she wanted if a man didn’t offer that she left.
That’s mainly cuz Charlotte (and Samantha) knew exactly what type of relationship they wanted. If I’m Carrie or Miranda and not completely sure, “what I want” is more malleable than I realize. Charlotte KNEW she wanted to be a mom, just like Samantha KNEW she never wanted to be one. Meanwhile, Carrie in S6 is over here contemplating if she wants kids or not ONLY because Ptrovsky said he wouldn’t want more.
Charlotte was one of the group members who 1) pressured Miranda to keep her baby because she was struggling with fertility herself smdh and 2) told her to take him back on the bridge. Crazy how they uplifted her but she didn't return it to Miranda much....meanwhile Carrie took advantage of her
@@pixiestxNyomouf crazy how earlier when charlotte needed her wedding to be special what did Miranda scream at her.. oh right “you get a day not a week” and when she asked them help to pick out a wedding dress the spent that time doing what 👂make it about themselves again even her wedding day wasn’t safe. They’ve shown time and time again that she means nothing to them.
that scene with the ladies taking off their burqas was actually shown in one of my cultural anthropology classes as an example of orientalism and ethnocentrism it is BURNT in my memory
That entire movie was so freaking gross. As a woman living in the middle east, it's blatantly clear that no one involved in the making of the move ever visited Abu Dhabi, much less did any research about Middle Eastern culture or values.
@@thelemurofmadagascar9183I assume it was sponsored by the tourist department heavily so that they were also limited in what they could write? Idk i just find it hard to believe that someone would write that
You talking about not dating up early 20's or after college is very relieving, bc I am 23 and have never dated anyone, and it feels like a STRUGGLE to be in that place
I was an introvert queer boy stuck in a homophobic cult till I was 24. My peers at the time also started to desperately match me with god-fearing women. I got out and started dating and had lots of fun, but I felt really awkward and weird for a year or two. It's not your scenario, but you start when it fits and you can enjoy it! Or just do other stuff you like. :)
@@honks9484With whom? Partnerting with the wrong person can ruin both yours and your potential children lives. I hate that peer/social pressure to force things, that arent naturally happening. Esp. when women are socialised to "wait" for Prince Charming and their "they lived happily ever after", while men are socialised to go out in the world and have adventures, women arent the goal, they are the optional prize. These 2 core expectations dont even match!!!
45:27 what’s crazy is that the vogue spread you see in the movie WAS ACTUALLY PRINTED IN VOGUE before the movie came out, it was a double spread of the Carrie shoot and then a separate SJP wedding shoot as well. It was wild.
oh wow, i love that the most recent example of 'breaking the 4th wall' that i know of (granted i'm young gen z) is with the gossip girl reboot a few years ago, when they made instagram accounts for all the characters & gossip girl itself and when a new episode aired & dropped blog posts in the show they posted them on instagram in real time too
@kittystew yes, yes it is! Get past the first five episodes (as it is somewhat of a slow burn) and you'll definitely be hooked! I started it during the pandemic, but stopped because the first episode wasn't what I thought. But after it came onto Netflix this year, that's all I was watching. Until I couldn't 😂
Once I started thinking all of Carrie’s friends were figments of her writer imagination representing either her career aspirations, sex drive, or hopes for love it was over for me.
The fact that this show was considered revolutionary and progressive just shows how hard it was to be a woman in the 90s. This, and Queer as Folk, for lgbtq, problematic as hell, but it was all we had!
I only watched anime and anime in the 90s/early 00s was genuinely progressive. Not a lot of bisexual representation back then, but there was some (mainly everyone in Ranma 1/2 and almost everyone in Sailor Moon). Also, cis het crossdressing was heavily represented.
I'm still not over how Carrie said something like, "Its my fault too. I made the wedding bigger than us." and then the settled for the court house wedding like that was the right choice all along????? All for the same guy who had said he never wants to get married again but immediately gets married to someone else?!?!?! Aaaaaa
My aunt always tries to defend Big for standing Carrie up by saying "well she knew he didn't want this big extravagant wedding" And it's like, if it was that big of a deal then they should actually communicate about it, and either split down the middle or tell he wasn't doing it instead of JILTING HER???
But he didn’t even know how big the wedding had gotten until like the week of at the rehearsal dinner. Low key ky was all lily’s fault for hiding Carrie’s phone. I also don’t know why big didn’t try calling any of the other girls to get in contact w/ her though 🤦🏾♀️
I agree with you. that's not an excuse to leave your spouseat the alter. At that point, if overriding the wishes of your spouse and also being so avoidant of broaching your discomfort to the extent that you leave your spouse at the alter, are happening BEFORE even getting married, idk how either expected the marriage to last after that. Like they've been together on and off for 8 yrs and their communication is no better than day 1. That should've been the confirmation both needed to not get married to each other and end things permanently, history be damned. sunk cost be damned .
Agreed, I'm so sick of this trope where film/show tries to downplay a character's culpability, framing their actions more as if they're being compelled instead of having any sort of autonomy.
that scene when Samantha got back Richard and Carrie talking about”the next column is desperate women who would believe anything” the way i would’ve OFFF on Carrie cause she was the LAST person at the table to call somebody anybody desperate like bitch is u serious
If the first thing you say to your fiancé for standing you up is, "I knew you would do this!" Honey...then why did you want to marry him??? Carry is sooo annoying.😒
right? why would you want to marry someone you had any amount of doubt in? let alone someone who has given you infinite reasons to doubt them for the better part of a decade?
I remember at one point, Miranda was debating her options when she realized she was pregnant and got chewed out by Charlotte who had realized she couldn't have kids...and i hated that so viscerally...yes women do do that argument...but grrr.
I have been under fire FOR YEARS whenever I give the opinion that Charlotte peer pressured and projected onto Miranda about getting an a.bortion because SHE couldn't get pregnant....I stand firm in saying Miranda regretted having Brady and Steve on multiple instances (verbally and indirectly) since...Samantha was the only good friend to Miranda as well because Carrie still used her
It's impossible to explain to people who aren't old enough to remember just how much of a phenomenon SATC was. You could go to the mall and buy T-shirts and notebooks that said "I am a " in AUSTRALIA. That shit was a cultural touchstone. Which is wild when you consider that Carrie freaked out about a game of spin the bottle and Miranda said to her child "white guy with a baby, wherever he's going, we go". Like it was racist, it was homophobic, it was full of body shaming, it was such a problem, but it was a truly liberating piece of media.
@elleofhearts8471 This was a time when female sexuality wasn't really allowed to be publicly discussed. The vibrator episode was the first time a conversation about female pleasure was really made acceptable in mainstream media. It was hugely liberating for women, particularly women over 30. Like 50 Shades of Grey, it was absolutely awful representation in almost every way, but it was important.
@@neverstoppedme You seemed to have misunderstood. Allow me to clarify. The impact SATC has had on public dialogue, visibility, variety, and validity of female sexuality isnt what im questioning here. As a woman myself, I understand how the show was revolutionary for its time and i give the show as much credit. What im more referring to are the caveats you included at the end of your comment, which highlights the glaring flaws of the show that gets glossed over in the course of mostly uncritical praise. Which is to say, SATC is liberating but only if youre skinny, but if only youre not lgbt, but only if youre white, but only if youre able bodied, but only if youre rich, but only if youre straight presenting, but only if youre a college graduate, but only, but only, but only. Theres so many caveats to who SATC represents and who its inviting to celebrate ostensibly straight femininity and sexuality, that who its liberating force impacts narrows and narrows the closer you examine the contents of the show. Its not a show youre invited to bring your whole self to or will leave with your whole self intact. That is not true liberation. No one is free until were all free and SATC harms just as much, if not more than it helps, in my opinion. I dont expect any show to be perfect. I know that every piece of media is a product of its time. I know that no show can be all things to everyone all the time, but i think SATC gets excessive uncritical praise for being a supposed "foreward thinking paragon of pu ssy pride", and it just isnt that for many important reasons. One of them being how its a show wanting to defy the limitations of socially imposed directives on female sexuality and femininity but also reinforces and validates limitations on femininity and female sexuality in the same breath. If SATC is to be deserving of as much praise as it gets, I expect that it wouldve been a lot better in many critical facets that are just as crucial as se x and femininity are to the female experience and identity. I believe we all deserve better. And i give due credit to the fact that the possibility of a better show wouldnt even be an option if SATC didnt exist as a measuring stick future shows will be measured against in the first place.
@@elleofhearts8471I couldn't agree more with every single thing you've just said. I'm fat, queer, disabled and poor, I don't identify with a single one of those women. I respect SATC's legacy, but I don't *like* the show, and I think it did an awful job at tackling every subject it tried.
In the past few years, this type of content has become my way of watching stuff I might be slightly curious about, but don't actually want to spend time on -- with the added benefit of feeling like you're not watching alone
Seeing Charlotte get confronted with things that maker her uncomfortable will never not be funny. The faces the actress makes and those shrill squeaks and squaks are so camp.
I'll never forgive SATC for the episode centering around bisexuality. It was so dated and uncomfortable. Darren Star and Sarah Jessica Parker owe me a settlement for the pain that episode caused me. I watched it and immediately contracted mesothelioma.
This is slightly embarrassing but I watched SATC with my grandmother. She would always try to catch me off guard asking what they were talking about and I played dumb saying i didn't know, but every Sunday she would ask "ain't our girls on?" And we would watch the show together, I guess we both learned lessons during that time. 😂❤️😂❤️
here to say u should ABSOLUTELY do a deep dive video on girlfriends! it’s one of my comfort shows & would LOVE to hear ur thoughts & how u think it should’ve ended ❤
recently got into a relationship at 29, after being (fully) single for 5 years and (casually) single for 10 years (dated around just to meet ppl and then got bored so i decided to be fully single). i told my sisters who are in their early 20s this: "if all things go smoothly, you will never have your single life again, so don't ever let it go until someone is rlly worth it....or if you're ready to let it go" . i love my boyfriend, but i would have hated being in a relationship any time before 25
this might sound a little corny but i really appreciated reading this. im in my early twenties but the fact that i’ve only had one short-lived relationship makes me feel disconnected from other people my age. it’s very reassuring to see your experience, so thanks for sharing. i wish you all the best with your new relationship ☺️
i've just ended an engagement with a man i've been with for 7 years... i'm 26 right now and really excited to spend the time to really get to know myself as an adult. thank you for this it brings a small sense of comfort to know it's possible to meet other people in the future, i just need to be single for a while
@@michelleb1433 good for you for doing what is best for you. im excited for you to get to know yourself and i hope you find all the happiness you deserve ☺️💛
@@lokiawriter8077 hey, thank you! glad it made you feel better, not corny at all, i think there's a pressure to find someone the moment you reach 20...esp w all tht bs abt women being worse after 25 (i'm bi and i have always thought women are wayyy hotter after 30). i have always been happy single and people constantly projected on me and alot of ppl assumed a lot of things about me. it can get irritating sometimes, but its so much better than going on date after date just wondering why you even bother making time for people you barely even know. so yeah....if you find someone, that's great! don't hesitate to explore that growth, but being single is equally just as rewarding. you tend to know what you want better anyways cos you already know how happy you can be for years, and it will take a rlly special person to make you sacrifice that happiness sometimes, and make you want to bring them into your life, as well as being part of their life. all the best to you too! enjoy your singlehood while you can~
Aleksandr Petrovsky gets his flowers from me because that’s THE Mikhail Baryshnikov, THE Misha. Carrie couldn’t handle not being the center of attention, and that’s why she broke up with him. The slap felt stupid and out of nowhere
They wanted Big and Aiden back so bad 🤬. They had to throw in Domestic Violence to run her off. Only type of abuse Carrie ever ran from too because Big was emotionally, verbally and spiritually abusive. (Not including the age and maturity gap he fed into unlike Alex)
Same, could never hate him. He had his life together and actually liked Carrie for who she was with her crazy ass. But that girl loves drama and wants to find a problem with everything. Like girl, you are living in Paris. Go out there make friends and meet people. It may take you a minute but you going to find your grove. They did his character so dirty
@@jacquelinelugo5518 Carrie never had high expectations or goals for herself sadly. She wanted to be a mistress turned kept woman for Big (she wanted to be Natasha so bad but didn't have poise or taste, she was cheap and playful) when she could've literally been a Queen. Kennie would call this "accepting the love you think you deserve"
@@jacquelinelugo5518Carrie said she liked an Oscar de la Renta dress in a magazine and he said, “Oh I can get it from Oscar,” very casually because that was LITERALLY his friend, and she had it on by the next day. Carrie was an idiot 😭😭😭😭😭
I wish that they would have just let it end when it did. The bit of the reboot I’ve seen they kind of make Carrie the only non problematic one but Carrie was always the most problematic in the way she interacted with race and sexuality.
The Golden Girls weren't actually that old though - I'm always surprised to remember their canon ages and thea actress' ages. Dorothy is 55 in the first season - and I remember Samantha turning 50 during SaTC.
As someone who moved to Abu Dhabi two years after Sex and the City 2 came out (and who started watching the show the same year, probably watching the movie in 2013 or so) that movie was HORRENDOUS. The script was so bad that Abu Dhabi wouldn't even let them film there (because of the morals? Representation of the city? Unsure). The middle eastern scenes were filmed in Morocco, I think. I would have LOVED to see them talking with women of the middle east and learning about how feminism and Islamic traditions are merged in the more affluent and "westernised" parts of the middle east as well as things concerning women in the less affluent places. Everything they did regarding women in the middle east was such a "I spent a week in Abu Dhabi and that makes me an expert" vibe. Cheap, shabby, untethered from reality, un-nuanced, vomit-flavored Cap'n Crunch shit.
Same. Especially when you read The Quran and learn how by doctrine women are allowed to be modest, to vote, divorce, excercise birth control, etc. , there's something to be said (American here, btw, born, raised, and living).
I think the show did a decent job showing the consequences of the characters' bad and better choices. Because, unironically, I learned so many red flags and what not to do from watching this show back then! Carrie and Miranda were the most miserably unhappy characters, though the other two weren't great either. I read it like... the show was about women who had issues and hangups regarding romance, but at least they had each other. I seem to remember laughing at their bad choices.
I really loved the episode when she realized she couldn't buy her apartment when it went condo, because she'd bought accessories, AND was in deep debt. That snapped my aughts self out of the Need It mentality right quick.
Almost dropped my phone when I saw this notification 😭Sex and The City has become one of my favorite shows, and it was my mother’s favorite too. While i agree that these characters constantly dry humped my last nerve, I love the show all the same. And now Kennie has found it, AND, made a video about it! Best of both worlds ❤️
Before this series came out, there was The Rules, which was this oddly popular retrograde self-help book to find “Mr. Right.” Charlotte was meant to be a quintessential Rules girl. That’s why she is the way she is. I will say, in the first movie, they initially talked about a small courthouse wedding and she was into it until she got sucked in to the whole spectacle. That’s what freaked Big out. Harry was truly the best of all of the partners.
They REALLY brow beat Kim Catrall into even doing one movie - she made 'Ice Princess instead before agreeing' and even more so for the second. The third was rumored that she would be sexting someone that ended up being Brady unknowingly and she was RIGHTLY disgusted. I know you said you aren't interested in 'The Carrie Diaries' but I honestly encourage it because Carrie is MUCH more tolerable and the story in many ways is both better and different, based more on the actual novels, and I would recommend it for sure.
Thats totally something her charater would do tho 😂 Samantha slept with charolettes brother after she asked her not to, and tried to give her details about what a good lay her brother was
Kennie's rant about the courthouse wedding had me laughing so hard I started crying and had to watch it twice 😂😂😂 it has been a very rough week, thank you for that
I know I know you said you wont cover the reboot, but Kennie i swear the ridiculousness of that reboot will have you DYING! you will crack the fuck up at how hard they are trying and failing.
Sex and the City had some serious biphobia problems. I remember one episode where Carrie broke up with a guy just because she found out he was bi, and then the way the other women talk about Samantha's relationship with a woman was the same "bisexuals don't exist" type thing (one of the many frustrating, harmful stereotypes we deal with constantly) and even tho the show shows that Samantha did care about this woman it also ends their relationship by Samantha going "actually i can't live without dick" which is another one of the classic bisexual stereotypes ("lesbians should never date a bi woman bc she will never be satisfied without a man") 🙄 as a queer person I prefer Friends honestly, at least the lesbian couple were shown as loving people and good parents and the joke was that Ross' *ex-wife* was a lesbian and not just that lesbians exist. Sex and the City sometimes feels like wall to wall harmful stereotypes whenever they try to touch on queerness.
exactlyyyy, people who think Friends was mocking lesbians need to rewatch this show fr - Ross is the one who's being ridiculed. his ex-wife is shown as a good and likeable person (which is insane tbh, cause she literally cheated on him) and his dynamic with her partner would be absolutely the same if her partner was a man, cause it's mostly rivalry and snarky remarks
Agree, the bisexual erasure hurt me as a 20 something who watched the show when it first came out. (No pun intended.) It took me many years to address my queerness.
I was also too young for SATC at the time but finally watched it in my late 20’s and I remember being most frustrated by Charlotte, not Carrie because though she was insecure at times she was also very self righteous and judgmental. She always ends up contradicting her standards and becoming a hypocrite, but it never stops her from being close minded when the next plot point arrives.
Posted ten minutes ago?! The algo has truly blessed me this Monday Edit: Kennie yelling about Big is cathartic and I've never even watched SATC. HE DOESN'T RESPECT YOU, CARRIE. LEAVE HIM
Carrie doesn't respect herself either the way she allows big to treat her time after time. Even when he's the one to break things off, she still takes him back and maintain contact with him. Carrie is the perfect example of why you should love yourself first and foremost. Don't be a Carrie.
Yeah this was my experience with it too. Loved it as a teen, love to hate watch it now. But it’s also still a comfort. I love seeing 90’s NY too. There’s a certain feeling to that show that’s comforting
I think that made me so mad about how it ended between Samantha and Smith is just another facet of how lazily the movies were written: She leaves him using the same line WORD FOR WORD that she said when she broke up with Richard. "I love you, but I love me more." Absolutely not.
SATC was my comfort show after every breakup. More towards my late 20's/early 30's. After a breakup, I watched every episode of the six seasons, over and over again in the evening for a year. Not because it was good, just comfort I guess?
I watched it many times for this exact reason. It's trash TV, but it's so comforting and seeing them turn men that ain't shit into comedic material helped me to process the men in my life that weren't shit. I also didn't have girlfriends to dissect and gossip about these things so in a way, the show made me feel less alone with the break ups
If you're looking for recs check out the Hulu series 'The Great'. It'a fictionalized period piece about Catherine the Great, a german woman who married the Russian emperor then overthrew him, became empress, and ushered the Enlightenment into Russia. The writing and the acting is so hilarious and smart and just well executed, it's such an underrated show!
Kim Catrall turned down the third movie due to the script. She originally said 'maybe' because there were things she liked about the series, was friends with some of the actors (minus SJP), but when she brought up issues with the third movie, apparently the creators, producers, SJP etc bullied her more and tried to pressure her to take the role so that basically cemented it and she flat out refused. Rumour has it that they were trying to make Samantha and BRADY at thing! As in Miranda's son (the one she babysat) who would've been like 16 or 17 at the time... KC thought that was horrible and inappropriate., which it is. So yeah, very good thing there was no third movie. After the bullying KC cut ties with all of them apparently. It wasn't until season 2 of AJLT that she had a small cameo. It was a desperate attempt to get viewership up because everyone hates the show. I don't know why KC said yes to that because she was in like, 3 series alt the same time so she didn't need to.
Yeah!! I JUST finished binging it now that it's on Netflix. I didn't get to watch it when it was airing because I was too young. But now I get it. I can see why the girls and the gays of the time loved it so much
Being 50 + and having living through the SATC era as a college student young professional -those girls were entertaining but ANNOYING. And I spent the whole time being confused by Carrie. Because she wasn’t good to the good boyfriends and wasted time obsessing over the bad ones. But the dialogue was always fun to watch. And the fashion was kinda like seeing some thing that looked interesting but I had no desire to duplicate.
Correction: Girlfriends is the seasoned version of Sex and the City. Not a knockoff, just a more seasoned version with a hell of a lot more flavor 🤷🏾♀️
I feel like there were so many partners who started out good (robert, aiden, berger) but the writers basically assassinated their character because they wanted Miranda to be with Steve and Carrie to end up with Big. Like I can point out so many times when they did a 180 and became a completely different person to justify Miranda/Carrie breaking up with them. Don't even get me started on what they did to Samantha's girlfriend Steve specifically has always demanded everything on his own terms. He never even accepted a compromise, it was always him having a temper tantrum whenever Miranda sets a boundary and then sulking until she came around.
I'm a Gen Xer and Sex and the City was a new concept and never seen before when it came out. That's why it was a cultural phenomenon, it was new and targeted towards the 20/30 somethings before. I fell in love with designer shoes watching this show. I look back and yes they are all annoying, especially Carrie I wouldn't watch it all again. Friends was my jam. I'm a new follower and love, love, love your content. Your BMAAB got me laughing so hard!
Totally agree with you about waiting before marrying. Why do you have to be pushed into getting married before you know yourself? Don't make that sort of commitment until you're sure. It honestly weirded me out to learn that people get married without even living together for any length of time.
Unfortunately, I see people emotionally abuse sex in serious relationships as well as marriages. It's not only casual relationships that need to be called out. They treat their partners and their health carelessly. Procreate recklessly. After a while they treat it as a contract rather than an emotional experience. They don't treat their partners or potential partners with respect. They don't regard sex as something that can affect their health. They treat it as a favor rather than a mutual experience. They don't respect consent or boundaries. A lot of people just aren't mature or emotionally safe enough for sex regardless of their relationship status or age.
I do know plenty of woman with good husbands that never lived together before getting married but the thing is they knew who they were, what they wanted and did not confort with less and in other hand have friends that pass of one bad relationship to another even we they live with their partners for several years. So I think is it not about if you live or not together before but about self-steem and knowing yourself, that has been so far the difference between good and bad relatioships.
It really has been everywhere. All of a sudden everyone is doing a video on sex and the city and I'm only experiencing it second hand. I'm hooked on watching it through other people.
@@chinyereugwu9431 I feel this, he definitely made some incredibly bad decisions but at a point he was sort of emotionally entrapped by her. My housemate rewatched SATC last summer, and I had just gone through a brief fling with someone with Carrie Bradshaw's relationship energy (inappropriately possessive, deeply insecure, should really consider living single for a little while and just seeing what kind of personal development can come from getting to know yourself as an individual) and like. I get why it could be hard to leave, and I get how it could be hard to keep it from going on for too long, and it's also kind of impossible to actually communicate effectively with a person like that because they won't actually listen to the words coming out of your mouth. And I'm honestly speaking more about Carrie and Big's relationship than my personal experience. The times I would briefly sit and watch a scene from SATC it was pretty often Carrie instigating a conflict with Big over absolutely nothing, or if it was actually something, the issue didn't really warrant a conflict. He wasn't the best man but he would have probably been better in different circumstances.
@@chinyereugwu9431he kinda is he had a secret wife then cheated on her WITH Carrie, planned to move to Paris without her, cheated on her multiple times, stalked her when she had a bf,etc
I had 2 boyfriends in my teens and then didn’t date again until I was 30 when I met my current fiancé. While having no adult dating experience before we got together meant there was a bit of a learning curve for me navigating things in the beginning, I still think it was better than dealing with a bunch of BS in my twenties. More importantly, it gave me time to learn to get to know and love myself. I struggled with low self esteem and depression throughout my twenties. It was awesome to feel perfectly content with myself alone and THEN add a companion to my life. (Not that I think most should wait until they’re 30. I just had a lot of work to do when it came to loving myself)
I was SO into it in the early 2000's. I started watching it on '04 during my first semester of college. I thought it was so progressive and insightful. I tried to rewatch it in my 30's... Oh, boy. My opinion very much so changed.
Tbh as someone who got into a serious relationship right at 18, not dating in college is the best advice you could give. Its something I wish I wouldve done. You have the rest of your life for all that stuff. Focus on you first
I'm loving that so many of the commentators I've found for SATC deep dives have been Black/BIPOC women! Goodness knows their input should have been considered decades ago, but here we are.
I feel season 2 to the first half of season 4 was its most solid run. A lot of that stretch hasn’t aged that well. But that stretch also felt like a show taking risks and investigating its characters and their flaws. After that stretch it became increasingly materialistic, redundant, un-fun, and Carrie came off less like a flawed protagonist and more and more like a complete airhead dedicated to repeating the same mistakes of which we’re supposed to find adorable and aspirational. The remainder was watchable and a bit of a guilty pleasure. But when I think of actual decent SATC I think of that season 2 to the first half of 4 stretch. Honestly, Gilmore girls (as flawed as it was sometimes), is probably the best “watching white chicks” show from that era. Too bad Lauren Graham and Kelly Bishop never got their awards due. SATC did have its moments and its solid runs and it was groundbreaking in its own way. I will give it that. And yes, the second movie and reboot did nothing but line pockets and malign whatever legacy was built.
@@fromlissawithlove we weren't allowed to watch South Park 😅 it was more religious reason "because they talked about the devil" in grandma's words...ah I snuck and watched i
As someone who was adopted internationally and loves my mom, international adoption hell adoption is…….complicated but the good news is that my orphanage is closing because there are simply not enough babies. Honestly I was really lucky with my mom and I have a feeling one of the reasons is because there wasn’t the religious/civilizing aspect to my adoption but my mom was forced to go through a Christian adoption agency which is very telling.
The SATC movies and reboot RUINED the characters completely. Steve would’ve never cheated on Miranda in the original show and I was devastated when they had him do it in the second movie.
Thank you sooo much for this part at 26:40. I'm 19 and never dated before, and I was starting to feel like I'm missing out, even though I never wanted to date until I was done with college. my strength is renewed 🙏🏽
As a fledgling ace twenty something in the nineties, there was always too much sex and not enough city for me. I couldn’t believe what boring lives the women seemed to have. What about concerts, lectures, museums? Why is Carrie spending thousands of dollars on shoes and not a dime on books? Why are they wasting all their time on men when there’s so much to explore?!
I haven’t seen the show but I find it hilarious that people universally use the word “annoying” as the first descriptor of Carrie’s traits, when introducing her.
I remember being like 14 and coming across an episode of the series in the middle of a very judgy monologue about single people or single friends when you are in a relationship and the imaginary pressure or expectations of only going out with other couples because blablabla more incredibly vapid judgement .... I felt my brain melt, it was crazy
It's a good revisit. I watched it when I was a teen. I love Samantha she was the only real friend. Also I identified with Lynn. And I loved she dated Tricky in the show. I was a huge fan of his music in the early 90s.
I love Massive Attack, but Lynn always dated the ugliest men in the show. I know she was the “artsy” one, so for her, money and looks never mattered, but they could have done her better in the show 😂
@pinkmazohyst I loved her free spiritedness, back then when the show came out. I was a teen and I rarely saw any depiction of the quirky weird black women on TV. Her not caring about money is something I couldn't do lol. I related a lot to Toni too. Those two were polar opposites but their messiness was definitely the same lol
“And just like that” i think is worth a video in its own simply because that show is INFURIATING and your commentary on it would be hilarious and wildly entertaining!
As a person in my 40s wanna drop in and say , HBO was hella expensive, and the DVD sets costs $100+ ehich was super expensive, so i might have downloaded the series using peer to peer .
My mom loved this show. When she got the DVD box sets she really hoped to watch it with me when I was old enough, but we never did. Instead we bingewatch DEATH IN PARADISE on BritBox when I visit. Based on how you're describing these plotlines, it's probably for the best cuz in my 20s I already had a f***ed up perception of healthy relationships & was brainwashed by multiple factors to just ignore red flags. Carrie & Mr. Big would've messed me up more. Gotta love Charlotte's intense angry eyes in that one scene. "NO!! NO!👀"
"I don't recommend dating before 21" 100% agree. Dating before your frontal lobe is fully developed just creates immature relationships and can keep you from self growth.
Carrie was Big's side girl. He even gave her a shut up ring! I love how we have reexamined Carrie all realizing "Damn this girl sucked" Not Samantha though she was perfect to me
"the sopranos and sex in the city, the two genders" really got me because it's sooo true! I remember as a kid my parents would watch both of these when airing but I couldn't being a little kid
Carrie was wishy washy, gaslightly, and so annoying that I'm still not sure if it jumpstarted the Sarah Jessica Parker hate or if it was just always there and we didn't notice it.
idk i think it was part that but also just internalized misogyny. i remember growing up in the early 2000s and the only thing i knew about sjp was that people somehow thought she was ugly and loved to hate her for it.
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Would love to see you react to the movie Election. Random thought stemming from SJP and Matthew Broderick being married, I suppose. Thanks for your content, sis. Sending love and light your way. ❤
Kennie please watch Desperate Housewives, you'd love I swear.
Much like your sister I remember watching bits and pieces of reruns when I was way too young because sex and the city was everywhere and it was every icon's fav show but then when I was an actual teen I watched a couple of full episodes and I remember being so disappointed!! I hated Carrie, I thought it was stupid and very much not the fun feminist positive show I was expecting and I just gave up on it
You should definitely watch Living Single. It's far more progressive and speaks about working in your twenties and thirties in corporate America with natural hair, being a single woman in the workplace, dating in your twenties in New York City as Black people, has fashionable people and healthy relationships, etc. It's the show Friends stole word for word
Great podcast called worst idea of all time did those movies. It is crazy watching them freak out having to repetitively watch bag movies
Girlfriends was just the universe balancing itself out after Friends ripped off Living Single.
Facts. There are only like 7 story structures anyway.
I was JUST going to comment this when something told me to scroll down to find my shared kindred thoughts 😂
I know this is controversial from a black person, but Friends was a better show than Living Single. And it’s as much of Seinfeld clone and a redo of Living Single.
@@liteflightify I don’t fully agree but I hardly think Friends was a bad show. I always enjoyed it.
Yeah they were messy too
I think it was iconic for its time because women were living on their own terms however, it was never as progressive or feminist as it aimed to be.
Well because it was written by gay men 😅
i tried watching it in 2019 and all i remember is samantha is great and carrie thinks everyone is a freak/weirdo hahah i got annoyed and didnt finish the show
@howvery_ how is that your take? I literally never understand the people who shit on carrie but love Samantha, Samantha is like the definition of internalized mysgony and pick me
@@katc2040 its 5 years ago i just said i dont remember much hahah all of them are on the pick me side of things if we're gonna talk about that though
I never understood why people thought it was feminist...especially when Miranda, a confident and successful lawyer, kept chasing after a man who was so insecure, he broke up with her because she out-earned him and cheated on her (instead of constructively working on their sex life WITH her) because she didn't feel like having sex with him after having a BABY.
Also, they did Blair Underwood dirty. Hands down.
Sex and The City honestly could have doubled as a horror series because the way Carrie was OBSESSED with Natasha and borderline stalking her throughout the series was giving ‘Single White Female the Remix’.
She even looked like her with the curly blonde hair
yall are so dramatic
Not just Natasha but Big’s first ex-wife, his mother …
Straight up stalking terror.
The real horror is how many cigarettes Carrie smoked per day.😐
Recognizing that Carrie is straight up stupid isn’t internalized misogyny, it just means your brain is fully functioning 💃🏽✨
RIGHT
"Straight up stupid" What did she do to you?? LOL. All the characters in the show are objectively "stupid".
I hated Carrie so much
And I can’t BELIEVE the audience was made to believe that Carrie and Big were end game and that this was “lOvE” yuck.
@@lrs1519IT IS CIS HET PROPAGANDA I KNOW ITTTT
no one:
carrie: big is moving to paris
😂
I love those TikTok’s. They’re always so spot on.
Chuuu 😂😂
She should've thrown his ass straight into the Seine lmao!
Hey Chuzuus!!! ❤
I felt like Charlotte became more human after the divorce. The divorce did a lot to help her grow.
It humanized her fur sure.
Yes! She is my fav of the girls. Despite how much they tried to play her and down her, she was the only one with her head on straight throughout the series.
Also, not being able to have a kid naturally. She's that type of person that plans things out years in advance. So, having fertility issues and divorcing made her more likable. I really couldn't stand her the first few seasons.
@LasBlackUnicrn I always felt like she was the only one who was truly passionate about her work. Like Samantha and Miranda were hardworking and heading toward the top of their fields (Carrie didn't seem to challenge herself enough to care), but Charlotte brought others into her work and really cared beyond "this is my job and I need to be successful." And it feels like a real assassination of her to just make her quit with no internal conflict when she married Trey. Like, yes, she had a life plan and probably would quit eventually to be a mom, but the way it came about has always made me mad.
She still got scammed into marring down afterwards
Can't remember who said it, but my favorite quote about SatC was "it's a group of women acting like gay men, because the director wasn't allowed to make a show about gay men." When you look at it that way it makes a lot more sense. Either way I'm glad it exists lol.
In the Simpsons, Patty and Selma describe a show called "Nookie in New York" in almost exactly the same terms 😂
I’m not sure where to find that a good thing or bad thing. Considering how the main lead is fundamentally an awful person, yet the show usually keeps taking her side.
I enjoyed how charlotte out of everyone surprisingly did what even Miranda the cynic was incapable of doing was ditch a man who did not match with her standards. Even though she was optimistic she knew the type of life she wanted if a man didn’t offer that she left.
This! Charlotte knew what she wanted and got it.
That’s mainly cuz Charlotte (and Samantha) knew exactly what type of relationship they wanted. If I’m Carrie or Miranda and not completely sure, “what I want” is more malleable than I realize. Charlotte KNEW she wanted to be a mom, just like Samantha KNEW she never wanted to be one.
Meanwhile, Carrie in S6 is over here contemplating if she wants kids or not ONLY because Ptrovsky said he wouldn’t want more.
Charlotte was one of the group members who 1) pressured Miranda to keep her baby because she was struggling with fertility herself smdh and 2) told her to take him back on the bridge. Crazy how they uplifted her but she didn't return it to Miranda much....meanwhile Carrie took advantage of her
@@pixiestxNyomouf crazy how earlier when charlotte needed her wedding to be special what did Miranda scream at her.. oh right “you get a day not a week” and when she asked them help to pick out a wedding dress the spent that time doing what 👂make it about themselves again even her wedding day wasn’t safe. They’ve shown time and time again that she means nothing to them.
Carrie was always so mean to Charlotte and Samantha
And expected the MOST from them too, financially and emotionally
Carrie's a horrible person.
Samantha was way more of a good friend to Carrie. Than she deserved.
Carrie is a self centered bad friend
Don’t forget about the time she sent Aiden to help Miranda when she was sprawled out naked on the bathroom floor!
that scene with the ladies taking off their burqas was actually shown in one of my cultural anthropology classes as an example of orientalism and ethnocentrism it is BURNT in my memory
We watched the ENTIRE MOVIE in my international relations “Muslims & the West” class. What a doozy
That entire movie was so freaking gross. As a woman living in the middle east, it's blatantly clear that no one involved in the making of the move ever visited Abu Dhabi, much less did any research about Middle Eastern culture or values.
yikes scene
@@thelemurofmadagascar9183I assume it was sponsored by the tourist department heavily so that they were also limited in what they could write?
Idk i just find it hard to believe that someone would write that
You talking about not dating up early 20's or after college is very relieving, bc I am 23 and have never dated anyone, and it feels like a STRUGGLE to be in that place
Me too! I feel this way rn also 23. And my family is already pressuring me to get married and have kids😭
I was an introvert queer boy stuck in a homophobic cult till I was 24. My peers at the time also started to desperately match me with god-fearing women. I got out and started dating and had lots of fun, but I felt really awkward and weird for a year or two. It's not your scenario, but you start when it fits and you can enjoy it! Or just do other stuff you like. :)
You dont have to force it, if you dont feel like it.
💜
@@honks9484With whom? Partnerting with the wrong person can ruin both yours and your potential children lives. I hate that peer/social pressure to force things, that arent naturally happening. Esp. when women are socialised to "wait" for Prince Charming and their "they lived happily ever after", while men are socialised to go out in the world and have adventures, women arent the goal, they are the optional prize. These 2 core expectations dont even match!!!
@@honks9484oh dear god, as someone who got married at 37….there is NO RUSH…enjoy your life!!
45:27 what’s crazy is that the vogue spread you see in the movie WAS ACTUALLY PRINTED IN VOGUE before the movie came out, it was a double spread of the Carrie shoot and then a separate SJP wedding shoot as well. It was wild.
oh wow, i love that
the most recent example of 'breaking the 4th wall' that i know of (granted i'm young gen z) is with the gossip girl reboot a few years ago, when they made instagram accounts for all the characters & gossip girl itself and when a new episode aired & dropped blog posts in the show they posted them on instagram in real time too
The two HBO genders being The Sopranos and Sex & The City, and here i come driving up in my lime green third gender: Six Feet Under.
YES
Six Feet Under was HUMAN. That's what made it timeless and beautiful.
I absolutely loved this series!
I've watched the first episode twice (once a few years ago and once again last month) and couldn't get into it. is this my sign to continue with it?
@kittystew yes, yes it is!
Get past the first five episodes (as it is somewhat of a slow burn) and you'll definitely be hooked!
I started it during the pandemic, but stopped because the first episode wasn't what I thought. But after it came onto Netflix this year, that's all I was watching. Until I couldn't 😂
The reason Big is the Endgame man is because he and Carrie match each other's awful.
Yes 👏
Once I started thinking all of Carrie’s friends were figments of her writer imagination representing either her career aspirations, sex drive, or hopes for love it was over for me.
The fact that this show was considered revolutionary and progressive just shows how hard it was to be a woman in the 90s. This, and Queer as Folk, for lgbtq, problematic as hell, but it was all we had!
I only watched anime and anime in the 90s/early 00s was genuinely progressive. Not a lot of bisexual representation back then, but there was some (mainly everyone in Ranma 1/2 and almost everyone in Sailor Moon). Also, cis het crossdressing was heavily represented.
its the relatability, almost everything they went through could be applied to our dating lives in 2024
You had me at "this is all we had!" 😭
Cant mention Queer As Folk without The L Word! 😂😂
@@justadjustor8993 Ah The L Word, where the actress for the bisexual character admitted to forgetting that her character was supposed to be bi. 🤦
I'm still not over how Carrie said something like, "Its my fault too. I made the wedding bigger than us." and then the settled for the court house wedding like that was the right choice all along????? All for the same guy who had said he never wants to get married again but immediately gets married to someone else?!?!?! Aaaaaa
My aunt always tries to defend Big for standing Carrie up by saying "well she knew he didn't want this big extravagant wedding"
And it's like, if it was that big of a deal then they should actually communicate about it, and either split down the middle or tell he wasn't doing it instead of JILTING HER???
But he didn’t even know how big the wedding had gotten until like the week of at the rehearsal dinner. Low key ky was all lily’s fault for hiding Carrie’s phone. I also don’t know why big didn’t try calling any of the other girls to get in contact w/ her though 🤦🏾♀️
I agree with you. that's not an excuse to leave your spouseat the alter. At that point, if overriding the wishes of your spouse and also being so avoidant of broaching your discomfort to the extent that you leave your spouse at the alter, are happening BEFORE even getting married, idk how either expected the marriage to last after that. Like they've been together on and off for 8 yrs and their communication is no better than day 1. That should've been the confirmation both needed to not get married to each other and end things permanently, history be damned. sunk cost be damned .
Agreed, I'm so sick of this trope where film/show tries to downplay a character's culpability, framing their actions more as if they're being compelled instead of having any sort of autonomy.
@@LasBlackUnicrn😂I blamed Lily too! Shame on us for blaming a child for grown folks problems!
@@pamelapride2199 lmao Lily was trouble!!
that scene when Samantha got back Richard and Carrie talking about”the next column is desperate women who would believe anything” the way i would’ve OFFF on Carrie cause she was the LAST person at the table to call somebody anybody desperate like bitch is u serious
😂😂😂 so true!
and just like that we realize why it was her karma to get broken up with on a post-it note
Right lol
If the first thing you say to your fiancé for standing you up is, "I knew you would do this!" Honey...then why did you want to marry him??? Carry is sooo annoying.😒
right? why would you want to marry someone you had any amount of doubt in? let alone someone who has given you infinite reasons to doubt them for the better part of a decade?
😂🤣🤣
I remember at one point, Miranda was debating her options when she realized she was pregnant and got chewed out by Charlotte who had realized she couldn't have kids...and i hated that so viscerally...yes women do do that argument...but grrr.
I have been under fire FOR YEARS whenever I give the opinion that Charlotte peer pressured and projected onto Miranda about getting an a.bortion because SHE couldn't get pregnant....I stand firm in saying Miranda regretted having Brady and Steve on multiple instances (verbally and indirectly) since...Samantha was the only good friend to Miranda as well because Carrie still used her
It's impossible to explain to people who aren't old enough to remember just how much of a phenomenon SATC was. You could go to the mall and buy T-shirts and notebooks that said "I am a " in AUSTRALIA. That shit was a cultural touchstone. Which is wild when you consider that Carrie freaked out about a game of spin the bottle and Miranda said to her child "white guy with a baby, wherever he's going, we go". Like it was racist, it was homophobic, it was full of body shaming, it was such a problem, but it was a truly liberating piece of media.
Sounds like real life. It was problematic to be sure but most people are.
well when you put it like that, who exactly was the show liberating for?
@elleofhearts8471 This was a time when female sexuality wasn't really allowed to be publicly discussed. The vibrator episode was the first time a conversation about female pleasure was really made acceptable in mainstream media. It was hugely liberating for women, particularly women over 30. Like 50 Shades of Grey, it was absolutely awful representation in almost every way, but it was important.
@@neverstoppedme You seemed to have misunderstood. Allow me to clarify. The impact SATC has had on public dialogue, visibility, variety, and validity of female sexuality isnt what im questioning here. As a woman myself, I understand how the show was revolutionary for its time and i give the show as much credit.
What im more referring to are the caveats you included at the end of your comment, which highlights the glaring flaws of the show that gets glossed over in the course of mostly uncritical praise. Which is to say, SATC is liberating but only if youre skinny, but if only youre not lgbt, but only if youre white, but only if youre able bodied, but only if youre rich, but only if youre straight presenting, but only if youre a college graduate, but only, but only, but only.
Theres so many caveats to who SATC represents and who its inviting to celebrate ostensibly straight femininity and sexuality, that who its liberating force impacts narrows and narrows the closer you examine the contents of the show.
Its not a show youre invited to bring your whole self to or will leave with your whole self intact. That is not true liberation. No one is free until were all free and SATC harms just as much, if not more than it helps, in my opinion. I dont expect any show to be perfect. I know that every piece of media is a product of its time. I know that no show can be all things to everyone all the time, but i think SATC gets excessive uncritical praise for being a supposed "foreward thinking paragon of pu ssy pride", and it just isnt that for many important reasons. One of them being how its a show wanting to defy the limitations of socially imposed directives on female sexuality and femininity but also reinforces and validates limitations on femininity and female sexuality in the same breath.
If SATC is to be deserving of as much praise as it gets, I expect that it wouldve been a lot better in many critical facets that are just as crucial as se x and femininity are to the female experience and identity. I believe we all deserve better. And i give due credit to the fact that the possibility of a better show wouldnt even be an option if SATC didnt exist as a measuring stick future shows will be measured against in the first place.
@@elleofhearts8471I couldn't agree more with every single thing you've just said. I'm fat, queer, disabled and poor, I don't identify with a single one of those women. I respect SATC's legacy, but I don't *like* the show, and I think it did an awful job at tackling every subject it tried.
I love that whenever I see a video from Kennie it’s usually a movie/ show I don’t plan on watching. I’m literally just here to listen to Kennie talk
Same!
In the past few years, this type of content has become my way of watching stuff I might be slightly curious about, but don't actually want to spend time on -- with the added benefit of feeling like you're not watching alone
Seeing Charlotte get confronted with things that maker her uncomfortable will never not be funny. The faces the actress makes and those shrill squeaks and squaks are so camp.
I'll never forgive SATC for the episode centering around bisexuality. It was so dated and uncomfortable. Darren Star and Sarah Jessica Parker owe me a settlement for the pain that episode caused me. I watched it and immediately contracted mesothelioma.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It really was awful (especially as a bisexual Coloradan)
😂 not the mesothelioma!
Have you looked into your eligibility for compensation?!
well it could've actually happened. Carrie is based on a real woman named Candace.
@@chaosspy6723 they couldn't have taken some creative liberty and rewrite it? Or better yet, cut it?
This is slightly embarrassing but I watched SATC with my grandmother. She would always try to catch me off guard asking what they were talking about and I played dumb saying i didn't know, but every Sunday she would ask "ain't our girls on?" And we would watch the show together, I guess we both learned lessons during that time. 😂❤️😂❤️
awww that’s so sweet!
here to say u should ABSOLUTELY do a deep dive video on girlfriends! it’s one of my comfort shows & would LOVE to hear ur thoughts & how u think it should’ve ended ❤
THIS!! Pls!!
Agreed!! I really hope she does this 🥺
Cosigned! Please please PLEASE! 💗
recently got into a relationship at 29, after being (fully) single for 5 years and (casually) single for 10 years (dated around just to meet ppl and then got bored so i decided to be fully single). i told my sisters who are in their early 20s this: "if all things go smoothly, you will never have your single life again, so don't ever let it go until someone is rlly worth it....or if you're ready to let it go" . i love my boyfriend, but i would have hated being in a relationship any time before 25
this might sound a little corny but i really appreciated reading this. im in my early twenties but the fact that i’ve only had one short-lived relationship makes me feel disconnected from other people my age. it’s very reassuring to see your experience, so thanks for sharing. i wish you all the best with your new relationship ☺️
i've just ended an engagement with a man i've been with for 7 years... i'm 26 right now and really excited to spend the time to really get to know myself as an adult. thank you for this it brings a small sense of comfort to know it's possible to meet other people in the future, i just need to be single for a while
@@michelleb1433 good for you for doing what is best for you. im excited for you to get to know yourself and i hope you find all the happiness you deserve ☺️💛
@@lokiawriter8077 hey, thank you! glad it made you feel better, not corny at all, i think there's a pressure to find someone the moment you reach 20...esp w all tht bs abt women being worse after 25 (i'm bi and i have always thought women are wayyy hotter after 30). i have always been happy single and people constantly projected on me and alot of ppl assumed a lot of things about me. it can get irritating sometimes, but its so much better than going on date after date just wondering why you even bother making time for people you barely even know. so yeah....if you find someone, that's great! don't hesitate to explore that growth, but being single is equally just as rewarding. you tend to know what you want better anyways cos you already know how happy you can be for years, and it will take a rlly special person to make you sacrifice that happiness sometimes, and make you want to bring them into your life, as well as being part of their life. all the best to you too! enjoy your singlehood while you can~
Aleksandr Petrovsky gets his flowers from me because that’s THE Mikhail Baryshnikov, THE Misha. Carrie couldn’t handle not being the center of attention, and that’s why she broke up with him. The slap felt stupid and out of nowhere
They wanted Big and Aiden back so bad 🤬. They had to throw in Domestic Violence to run her off. Only type of abuse Carrie ever ran from too because Big was emotionally, verbally and spiritually abusive. (Not including the age and maturity gap he fed into unlike Alex)
@@pixiestxNyomoufEXACTLY. Y’all can never get me to hate the Russian. Boring was what Carrie’s wild and goofy ass needed 😂
Same, could never hate him. He had his life together and actually liked Carrie for who she was with her crazy ass. But that girl loves drama and wants to find a problem with everything. Like girl, you are living in Paris. Go out there make friends and meet people. It may take you a minute but you going to find your grove. They did his character so dirty
@@jacquelinelugo5518 Carrie never had high expectations or goals for herself sadly. She wanted to be a mistress turned kept woman for Big (she wanted to be Natasha so bad but didn't have poise or taste, she was cheap and playful) when she could've literally been a Queen. Kennie would call this "accepting the love you think you deserve"
@@jacquelinelugo5518Carrie said she liked an Oscar de la Renta dress in a magazine and he said, “Oh I can get it from Oscar,” very casually because that was LITERALLY his friend, and she had it on by the next day. Carrie was an idiot 😭😭😭😭😭
I wish that they would have just let it end when it did. The bit of the reboot I’ve seen they kind of make Carrie the only non problematic one but Carrie was always the most problematic in the way she interacted with race and sexuality.
I felt myself aging as you explained media in 1998.
LMAO same 😂
I graduated hs in 1998😂
Oww… owie oww
I'm glad "Girlfriend's" was a knock off of "sex and the city" because "Friends" did that to "Living Single" and became highly successful.
I clicked so fast, hoping it won't get taken down again😬😮💨
Saaaaammeee!!!
1:20 “SLIGHTLY” younger Golden Girls is a crazy stray for those women to catch 💀
The Golden Girls weren't actually that old though - I'm always surprised to remember their canon ages and thea actress' ages. Dorothy is 55 in the first season - and I remember Samantha turning 50 during SaTC.
As someone who moved to Abu Dhabi two years after Sex and the City 2 came out (and who started watching the show the same year, probably watching the movie in 2013 or so) that movie was HORRENDOUS. The script was so bad that Abu Dhabi wouldn't even let them film there (because of the morals? Representation of the city? Unsure). The middle eastern scenes were filmed in Morocco, I think. I would have LOVED to see them talking with women of the middle east and learning about how feminism and Islamic traditions are merged in the more affluent and "westernised" parts of the middle east as well as things concerning women in the less affluent places. Everything they did regarding women in the middle east was such a "I spent a week in Abu Dhabi and that makes me an expert" vibe. Cheap, shabby, untethered from reality, un-nuanced, vomit-flavored Cap'n Crunch shit.
Same. Especially when you read The Quran and learn how by doctrine women are allowed to be modest, to vote, divorce, excercise birth control, etc. , there's something to be said (American here, btw, born, raised, and living).
I think the show did a decent job showing the consequences of the characters' bad and better choices. Because, unironically, I learned so many red flags and what not to do from watching this show back then! Carrie and Miranda were the most miserably unhappy characters, though the other two weren't great either. I read it like... the show was about women who had issues and hangups regarding romance, but at least they had each other. I seem to remember laughing at their bad choices.
I really loved the episode when she realized she couldn't buy her apartment when it went condo, because she'd bought accessories, AND was in deep debt. That snapped my aughts self out of the Need It mentality right quick.
Almost dropped my phone when I saw this notification 😭Sex and The City has become one of my favorite shows, and it was my mother’s favorite too. While i agree that these characters constantly dry humped my last nerve, I love the show all the same. And now Kennie has found it, AND, made a video about it! Best of both worlds ❤️
Not “dry-humped in my last nerve” lmaooooo
Friend I’m so sorry but I’m stealing “dry-humped my last nerve”.
I’m a credit you in real life though I promise 💀💀
@@tariqthomas9090 you got it 😭💀
Before this series came out, there was The Rules, which was this oddly popular retrograde self-help book to find “Mr. Right.” Charlotte was meant to be a quintessential Rules girl. That’s why she is the way she is.
I will say, in the first movie, they initially talked about a small courthouse wedding and she was into it until she got sucked in to the whole spectacle. That’s what freaked Big out.
Harry was truly the best of all of the partners.
They REALLY brow beat Kim Catrall into even doing one movie - she made 'Ice Princess instead before agreeing' and even more so for the second. The third was rumored that she would be sexting someone that ended up being Brady unknowingly and she was RIGHTLY disgusted.
I know you said you aren't interested in 'The Carrie Diaries' but I honestly encourage it because Carrie is MUCH more tolerable and the story in many ways is both better and different, based more on the actual novels, and I would recommend it for sure.
Thats totally something her charater would do tho 😂 Samantha slept with charolettes brother after she asked her not to, and tried to give her details about what a good lay her brother was
@@katc2040 I mean there's a difference between that and having her sex someone - albeit accidentally - that she has known since he was a baby.
Carrie dairies and Carrie sex in the city are completely different people lol I refuse they are the same character
Agreed! I really liked it and was sad when it got canceled.
@@jennamore6925 i think that's definitely a credit to AnnaSophia Robb's charm and likeability
Kennie's rant about the courthouse wedding had me laughing so hard I started crying and had to watch it twice 😂😂😂 it has been a very rough week, thank you for that
The way she yelled in a whispery voice, “You EMBARRASSED me, in VOGUE!” 🤣
I know I know you said you wont cover the reboot, but Kennie i swear the ridiculousness of that reboot will have you DYING! you will crack the fuck up at how hard they are trying and failing.
Truth be told I hvn’t seen the movies But I have seen most of the episodes. “Embarrass me in public so make up to me in public” rings so true.
ahhh yes my comfort show at night along with "The Nanny" lmao
oh my god, the nanny was my mom's favorite tvshow from the 90s, and ive loved it ever since she introduced me to it
niles & cc's banter was legendary
I’d kill for Kenzie to talk about The Nanny
@@alexlove6025 we can manifest together 👌 in the meantime, mina le did an amazing video about the fashion from the show
Same!
Sex and the City had some serious biphobia problems. I remember one episode where Carrie broke up with a guy just because she found out he was bi, and then the way the other women talk about Samantha's relationship with a woman was the same "bisexuals don't exist" type thing (one of the many frustrating, harmful stereotypes we deal with constantly) and even tho the show shows that Samantha did care about this woman it also ends their relationship by Samantha going "actually i can't live without dick" which is another one of the classic bisexual stereotypes ("lesbians should never date a bi woman bc she will never be satisfied without a man") 🙄 as a queer person I prefer Friends honestly, at least the lesbian couple were shown as loving people and good parents and the joke was that Ross' *ex-wife* was a lesbian and not just that lesbians exist. Sex and the City sometimes feels like wall to wall harmful stereotypes whenever they try to touch on queerness.
exactlyyyy, people who think Friends was mocking lesbians need to rewatch this show fr - Ross is the one who's being ridiculed. his ex-wife is shown as a good and likeable person (which is insane tbh, cause she literally cheated on him) and his dynamic with her partner would be absolutely the same if her partner was a man, cause it's mostly rivalry and snarky remarks
Agree, the bisexual erasure hurt me as a 20 something who watched the show when it first came out. (No pun intended.) It took me many years to address my queerness.
One of the most consistent recurring jokes in The Golden Girls revolved around Rose being from St. Olaf.
"Back in St. Olaf ... !"
St Olaf Minnesota I believe
I was also too young for SATC at the time but finally watched it in my late 20’s and I remember being most frustrated by Charlotte, not Carrie because though she was insecure at times she was also very self righteous and judgmental. She always ends up contradicting her standards and becoming a hypocrite, but it never stops her from being close minded when the next plot point arrives.
Posted ten minutes ago?! The algo has truly blessed me this Monday
Edit: Kennie yelling about Big is cathartic and I've never even watched SATC. HE DOESN'T RESPECT YOU, CARRIE. LEAVE HIM
He isnt even that much into her!!!
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Carrie doesn't respect herself either the way she allows big to treat her time after time. Even when he's the one to break things off, she still takes him back and maintain contact with him. Carrie is the perfect example of why you should love yourself first and foremost. Don't be a Carrie.
Now I want a Girlfriends video.
Cuz Joan tapdanced on our nerves.
Petition please
Fun fact: Friends was inspired by (ripped off) Living Single with Queen Latifah, Kim Fields, etc.
I tried to watch it whenever I could as a teenager. Now as a 32 year old, I love laughing at and trashing everything they do and say.
Yeah this was my experience with it too. Loved it as a teen, love to hate watch it now. But it’s also still a comfort. I love seeing 90’s NY too. There’s a certain feeling to that show that’s comforting
Yea I'm going to need you to make a Girlfriends video now. It's one of my all-time favorite sitcoms.
Same.
I think that made me so mad about how it ended between Samantha and Smith is just another facet of how lazily the movies were written: She leaves him using the same line WORD FOR WORD that she said when she broke up with Richard. "I love you, but I love me more." Absolutely not.
I'm so happy this came back up. They took my girl down!
SATC was my comfort show after every breakup. More towards my late 20's/early 30's. After a breakup, I watched every episode of the six seasons, over and over again in the evening for a year. Not because it was good, just comfort I guess?
I watched it many times for this exact reason. It's trash TV, but it's so comforting and seeing them turn men that ain't shit into comedic material helped me to process the men in my life that weren't shit.
I also didn't have girlfriends to dissect and gossip about these things so in a way, the show made me feel less alone with the break ups
At 22, still in college, I can tell you that I don't feel completely ready to date seriously, and I never have. I'm still getting my life together.
If you're looking for recs check out the Hulu series 'The Great'. It'a fictionalized period piece about Catherine the Great, a german woman who married the Russian emperor then overthrew him, became empress, and ushered the Enlightenment into Russia. The writing and the acting is so hilarious and smart and just well executed, it's such an underrated show!
Well I’m sold on checking this show out!
Kim Catrall turned down the third movie due to the script. She originally said 'maybe' because there were things she liked about the series, was friends with some of the actors (minus SJP), but when she brought up issues with the third movie, apparently the creators, producers, SJP etc bullied her more and tried to pressure her to take the role so that basically cemented it and she flat out refused.
Rumour has it that they were trying to make Samantha and BRADY at thing! As in Miranda's son (the one she babysat) who would've been like 16 or 17 at the time... KC thought that was horrible and inappropriate., which it is. So yeah, very good thing there was no third movie.
After the bullying KC cut ties with all of them apparently. It wasn't until season 2 of AJLT that she had a small cameo. It was a desperate attempt to get viewership up because everyone hates the show. I don't know why KC said yes to that because she was in like, 3 series alt the same time so she didn't need to.
Yeah!! I JUST finished binging it now that it's on Netflix. I didn't get to watch it when it was airing because I was too young. But now I get it. I can see why the girls and the gays of the time loved it so much
Being 50 + and having living through the SATC era as a college student young professional -those girls were entertaining but ANNOYING. And I spent the whole time being confused by Carrie. Because she wasn’t good to the good boyfriends and wasted time obsessing over the bad ones. But the dialogue was always fun to watch. And the fashion was kinda like seeing some thing that looked interesting but I had no desire to duplicate.
It was a time.
Correction: Girlfriends is the seasoned version of Sex and the City. Not a knockoff, just a more seasoned version with a hell of a lot more flavor 🤷🏾♀️
Back before RUclips snatches it again😅 i see the work you do to fight RUclips off and way. Shout out to ad roll Kennie
I feel like there were so many partners who started out good (robert, aiden, berger) but the writers basically assassinated their character because they wanted Miranda to be with Steve and Carrie to end up with Big. Like I can point out so many times when they did a 180 and became a completely different person to justify Miranda/Carrie breaking up with them. Don't even get me started on what they did to Samantha's girlfriend
Steve specifically has always demanded everything on his own terms. He never even accepted a compromise, it was always him having a temper tantrum whenever Miranda sets a boundary and then sulking until she came around.
Carrie can be Stan from The Golden Girls
This is the best answer tbh 😂😩 Spot on.
I just died laughing!!! You're spot-on!!! 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dumb bajagaloop 😂
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I'm a Gen Xer and Sex and the City was a new concept and never seen before when it came out. That's why it was a cultural phenomenon, it was new and targeted towards the 20/30 somethings before. I fell in love with designer shoes watching this show. I look back and yes they are all annoying, especially Carrie I wouldn't watch it all again. Friends was my jam. I'm a new follower and love, love, love your content. Your BMAAB got me laughing so hard!
Totally agree with you about waiting before marrying. Why do you have to be pushed into getting married before you know yourself? Don't make that sort of commitment until you're sure. It honestly weirded me out to learn that people get married without even living together for any length of time.
Made me realize that is why a lot of the lifelong mormons appear stunted
Unfortunately, I see people emotionally abuse sex in serious relationships as well as marriages. It's not only casual relationships that need to be called out. They treat their partners and their health carelessly. Procreate recklessly. After a while they treat it as a contract rather than an emotional experience. They don't treat their partners or potential partners with respect. They don't regard sex as something that can affect their health. They treat it as a favor rather than a mutual experience. They don't respect consent or boundaries. A lot of people just aren't mature or emotionally safe enough for sex regardless of their relationship status or age.
I do know plenty of woman with good husbands that never lived together before getting married but the thing is they knew who they were, what they wanted and did not confort with less and in other hand have friends that pass of one bad relationship to another even we they live with their partners for several years. So I think is it not about if you live or not together before but about self-steem and knowing yourself, that has been so far the difference between good and bad relatioships.
It really has been everywhere. All of a sudden everyone is doing a video on sex and the city and I'm only experiencing it second hand. I'm hooked on watching it through other people.
just started the vid i hope there is a lot of shaming mr.big 🙂↕️ i cant believe people in the 90s were rooting for his character ??
At least he's not as toxic as Carrie
@@chinyereugwu9431 I feel this, he definitely made some incredibly bad decisions but at a point he was sort of emotionally entrapped by her. My housemate rewatched SATC last summer, and I had just gone through a brief fling with someone with Carrie Bradshaw's relationship energy (inappropriately possessive, deeply insecure, should really consider living single for a little while and just seeing what kind of personal development can come from getting to know yourself as an individual) and like. I get why it could be hard to leave, and I get how it could be hard to keep it from going on for too long, and it's also kind of impossible to actually communicate effectively with a person like that because they won't actually listen to the words coming out of your mouth. And I'm honestly speaking more about Carrie and Big's relationship than my personal experience. The times I would briefly sit and watch a scene from SATC it was pretty often Carrie instigating a conflict with Big over absolutely nothing, or if it was actually something, the issue didn't really warrant a conflict. He wasn't the best man but he would have probably been better in different circumstances.
Most people weren't. We wanted her with Aiden until she fucked him over again.
@@chinyereugwu9431he kinda is he had a secret wife then cheated on her WITH Carrie, planned to move to Paris without her, cheated on her multiple times, stalked her when she had a bf,etc
@@periodt87secret wife?
Preschool adulthood is a great way to describe college 😂
The first sex & the city movie is my guilty pleasure comfort movie 😂😭
same. i watched it at least twice while i was unpacking lmao
Same I remember watching it with my mom at 13 it was one of the first rated r movies she let me watch
Omg me too 🥹 watched it after a bad break up and never stopped since
it's sooo good, carrie got what she deserved 😭😂
I had 2 boyfriends in my teens and then didn’t date again until I was 30 when I met my current fiancé. While having no adult dating experience before we got together meant there was a bit of a learning curve for me navigating things in the beginning, I still think it was better than dealing with a bunch of BS in my twenties. More importantly, it gave me time to learn to get to know and love myself. I struggled with low self esteem and depression throughout my twenties. It was awesome to feel perfectly content with myself alone and THEN add a companion to my life. (Not that I think most should wait until they’re 30. I just had a lot of work to do when it came to loving myself)
I was SO into it in the early 2000's. I started watching it on '04 during my first semester of college. I thought it was so progressive and insightful. I tried to rewatch it in my 30's... Oh, boy. My opinion very much so changed.
Tbh as someone who got into a serious relationship right at 18, not dating in college is the best advice you could give. Its something I wish I wouldve done. You have the rest of your life for all that stuff. Focus on you first
I'm loving that so many of the commentators I've found for SATC deep dives have been Black/BIPOC women! Goodness knows their input should have been considered decades ago, but here we are.
I feel season 2 to the first half of season 4 was its most solid run. A lot of that stretch hasn’t aged that well. But that stretch also felt like a show taking risks and investigating its characters and their flaws. After that stretch it became increasingly materialistic, redundant, un-fun, and Carrie came off less like a flawed protagonist and more and more like a complete airhead dedicated to repeating the same mistakes of which we’re supposed to find adorable and aspirational. The remainder was watchable and a bit of a guilty pleasure. But when I think of actual decent SATC I think of that season 2 to the first half of 4 stretch. Honestly, Gilmore girls (as flawed as it was sometimes), is probably the best “watching white chicks” show from that era. Too bad Lauren Graham and Kelly Bishop never got their awards due. SATC did have its moments and its solid runs and it was groundbreaking in its own way. I will give it that. And yes, the second movie and reboot did nothing but line pockets and malign whatever legacy was built.
I liked S1-3 and a bit of 4 as well. Beyond that, I feel like it was unwatchable.
I watched this with my mother as a child 🧍♀️
I watched the movies with my mom from Redbox 😅 she had the nerve to try and cover our eyes during the Miranda and Steve scene
@@pixiestxNyomouf I saw them in theaters with my mom and her friends I don’t even know how they let me in there 💀😭 for context I was born in 2001 😅
I mean, I watched (and STILL watch) South Park with my mom 😂. Sometimes the mom/daughter bestie boundaries overlap, lol.
@@fromlissawithlove we weren't allowed to watch South Park 😅 it was more religious reason "because they talked about the devil" in grandma's words...ah I snuck and watched i
I watched it with my sisters 🤣
As someone who was adopted internationally and loves my mom, international adoption hell adoption is…….complicated but the good news is that my orphanage is closing because there are simply not enough babies. Honestly I was really lucky with my mom and I have a feeling one of the reasons is because there wasn’t the religious/civilizing aspect to my adoption but my mom was forced to go through a Christian adoption agency which is very telling.
The SATC movies and reboot RUINED the characters completely. Steve would’ve never cheated on Miranda in the original show and I was devastated when they had him do it in the second movie.
He was totally a cheater 😂 always hated steve
Steve was too good for Miranda but some people need the drama to function
As someone who was cheated on by someone very like Steve, it can happen. All that felt really realistic to me. Down to caring for elderly parents.
idk i love steve but i could see him cheating, the complete character assassination of both him and miranda in the reboot was inexcusable tho 😭
Justin for Steve
I hate the reboot
The show's sudden popularity can easily be explained by the fact that it showed up on Netflix when it was previously only on HBO
love when at 27:37, kennie asks us “are you avoidant?” No i’m a Virgo Venus. It’s different 😭
Thank you sooo much for this part at 26:40. I'm 19 and never dated before, and I was starting to feel like I'm missing out, even though I never wanted to date until I was done with college. my strength is renewed 🙏🏽
YES. MA'AM. I rewatch this show all the time. IM SO GLAD YOUR DOING A VIDEO
As a fledgling ace twenty something in the nineties, there was always too much sex and not enough city for me. I couldn’t believe what boring lives the women seemed to have. What about concerts, lectures, museums? Why is Carrie spending thousands of dollars on shoes and not a dime on books? Why are they wasting all their time on men when there’s so much to explore?!
Because sex sells
sis i think we’re connected bc i just started watching sex and the city a few weeks ago and i’ve been obsessed NOW YOU DROP A VID ABOUT IT 😭😭
I haven’t seen the show but I find it hilarious that people universally use the word “annoying” as the first descriptor of Carrie’s traits, when introducing her.
I remember being like 14 and coming across an episode of the series in the middle of a very judgy monologue about single people or single friends when you are in a relationship and the imaginary pressure or expectations of only going out with other couples because blablabla more incredibly vapid judgement .... I felt my brain melt, it was crazy
46:40 oh this would’ve made me go gay too cuz WTF sir! The unearned audacity! 😭😭😭😭
It's a good revisit. I watched it when I was a teen. I love Samantha she was the only real friend. Also I identified with Lynn. And I loved she dated Tricky in the show. I was a huge fan of his music in the early 90s.
I love Massive Attack, but Lynn always dated the ugliest men in the show. I know she was the “artsy” one, so for her, money and looks never mattered, but they could have done her better in the show 😂
@pinkmazohyst I loved her free spiritedness, back then when the show came out. I was a teen and I rarely saw any depiction of the quirky weird black women on TV. Her not caring about money is something I couldn't do lol. I related a lot to Toni too. Those two were polar opposites but their messiness was definitely the same lol
to say sam is the only one who had a personality is wild, the'yre all so distinctively different and individual
I peeped the Inuyasha shirt 🤎
“And just like that” i think is worth a video in its own simply because that show is INFURIATING and your commentary on it would be hilarious and wildly entertaining!
omg a Girlfriends video would be so so good
I just binged it and watched the movies too. Its so crazy and omg Carrie always being out at 3 am in the park in NYC by herself . I was like 😮😮😮 😂😂😂😂
"they're annoying but i'm hooked" yeah that's the one
As a person in my 40s wanna drop in and say , HBO was hella expensive, and the DVD sets costs $100+ ehich was super expensive, so i might have downloaded the series using peer to peer .
My mom loved this show. When she got the DVD box sets she really hoped to watch it with me when I was old enough, but we never did. Instead we bingewatch DEATH IN PARADISE on BritBox when I visit.
Based on how you're describing these plotlines, it's probably for the best cuz in my 20s I already had a f***ed up perception of healthy relationships & was brainwashed by multiple factors to just ignore red flags. Carrie & Mr. Big would've messed me up more.
Gotta love Charlotte's intense angry eyes in that one scene.
"NO!! NO!👀"
"I don't recommend dating before 21" 100% agree. Dating before your frontal lobe is fully developed just creates immature relationships and can keep you from self growth.
Carrie was Big's side girl. He even gave her a shut up ring! I love how we have reexamined Carrie all realizing "Damn this girl sucked"
Not Samantha though she was perfect to me
"the sopranos and sex in the city, the two genders" really got me because it's sooo true! I remember as a kid my parents would watch both of these when airing but I couldn't being a little kid
Carrie was wishy washy, gaslightly, and so annoying that I'm still not sure if it jumpstarted the Sarah Jessica Parker hate or if it was just always there and we didn't notice it.
idk i think it was part that but also just internalized misogyny. i remember growing up in the early 2000s and the only thing i knew about sjp was that people somehow thought she was ugly and loved to hate her for it.
@@siennac1423that’s true! It’s wild, she looks incredible to me! So many misogynistic comments about her!