‘Weight Lifted’: Jodi Hildebrandt's Niece, Alleged Victim Reacts to Child Abuse Plea

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    Jessi Hildebrandt says they were surprised that their aunt, a former Utah mental health counselor and business partner of vlogger Ruby Franke, is actually being held accountable for her actions. Law&Crime’s Jesse Weber followed up with Jessi to get their reaction to Jodi’s guilty plea and expected prison sentence, years after Jessi’s own alleged abuse.
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  • @LawAndCrime
    @LawAndCrime  5 месяцев назад +27

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    • @nuckinfuts7610
      @nuckinfuts7610 4 месяца назад +1

      Why do you CONSTANTLY insist on showing images of the underage victims? And now you're even saying their names?? There's a reason why legal/court documents don't even reveal that, regardless of what their abusers already revealed about them.

    • @archipiratta
      @archipiratta 2 месяца назад

      ​@@nuckinfuts7610because the information is already in the public record. They had a whole RUclips channel with 2M+ subscribers! Use some common sense bro 🙄😒

  • @phototristan
    @phototristan 5 месяцев назад +936

    It's crazy that Jodi's niece actually reported her to the police previously and the police never did anything.

    • @DoWaTiWaNnA
      @DoWaTiWaNnA 5 месяцев назад +61

      Yes so sad what she did to that girl and how many other😢

    • @luciaconn6788
      @luciaconn6788 5 месяцев назад +53

      Jodi's guilty plea was probably on advise of counsel as the children's tale of torture would've generated much sympathy. Happy the niece filially got justice.

    • @Ms.Prairie
      @Ms.Prairie 5 месяцев назад +47

      Jodi would’ve been cementing herself in the Mormon church and Utah psychology community at that point too.
      I’m so happy Jessi got some semblance of justice, but I almost wish that case could be reopened. There should be no statute of limitations when there’s recorded evidence that went completely unchecked and essentially doubted.

    • @silversmoke6
      @silversmoke6 5 месяцев назад +40

      @@Ms.Prairie i find it so strange that the US has a statute of limitaions for serious crimes.
      In my country there isnt really a time limit, and its up to the defense to raise undue delay as a defense.

    • @mschenandlerbong8539
      @mschenandlerbong8539 5 месяцев назад +2

      The legal and law systems are both very very preferential to women. Mom says it's ok, they just trust that it's ok.

  • @coll4455
    @coll4455 5 месяцев назад +303

    She didn’t want the children to testify because she knew it would have been way worse for her not because she cares she’s a monster and has been doing this for decades

    • @godzillamanstreb524
      @godzillamanstreb524 5 месяцев назад +19

      Exactly

    • @kerrysmiles
      @kerrysmiles 5 месяцев назад +22

      Yep... And the church liked it 😢
      The church was sending people to an abusive therapist here at LDS family services in New Hampshire too. Unlicensed seems to be a common story I hear from folks harmed by LDS family services. Ours was awful. He messed me up for a while 😢

    • @HappyLizK
      @HappyLizK 5 месяцев назад +4

      Agree

    • @michellebaxterneedovey7103
      @michellebaxterneedovey7103 5 месяцев назад +15

      Totally agree, her pleading guilty is to protect herself not the children. She doesn’t want more details coming out.

    • @Fee212
      @Fee212 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@kerrysmilesIf you're a member of my church; The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints then you know that's untrue. President Nelson would never tolerate this injustice, child cruelty or being unlike Christ.

  • @janicedevereux2839
    @janicedevereux2839 5 месяцев назад +148

    Funny how Ruby came to this realization that she was isolated from her family and being manipulated so quickly after her arrest 😂
    And her arrogance is still there… she had to get that “ with my deepest regret from my children, guilty “.
    Her only regret is getting caught.

  • @Stray..
    @Stray.. 5 месяцев назад +275

    I imagine her desire to not have the children testify was less for them and more for her. She clearly doesn’t care about the children, she just didn’t want them to tell all the gory details about her.

    • @lynseyjones1146
      @lynseyjones1146 5 месяцев назад +21

      And she knows she’s gonna lose anyway

    • @heathercoon3451
      @heathercoon3451 5 месяцев назад +29

      I'm pretty sure a trial would have exposed evidence Jodi and Ruby are lovers. They don't want that out there.

    • @Stray..
      @Stray.. 5 месяцев назад

      @@heathercoon3451 That would’ve set the Morman church in a tizzy. They do love their patriarchy.

    • @gracenurse3365
      @gracenurse3365 5 месяцев назад +13

      Exactly. I was thinking the same thing re: “concern about putting the victims through further trauma.” Neither Franke nor Hildebrandt want even steeper sentences.

    • @amusingkiwi1981
      @amusingkiwi1981 5 месяцев назад +3

      Definitely

  • @kristinphillips3650
    @kristinphillips3650 5 месяцев назад +120

    The old saying, “There is no loyalty among thieves.” Ruby was apparently notoriously cruel to her kids before Jodi came on the scene. Both women deserve max sentences imo.

    • @GiGi_to_3
      @GiGi_to_3 5 месяцев назад +10

      Right, u don't just start doing that bc of some1 else. It has to already be in you & that is what they had in common. Wishing those kids as healthy of a life as any1 could have in this cruel world.

    • @adriannespring8598
      @adriannespring8598 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@GiGi_to_3 ssssoooo much truth here.

  • @94OaxEm
    @94OaxEm 5 месяцев назад +99

    At least they have daily meals and a bed . The jail isn’t even as harsh as they were to those kids 🤦🏽‍♂️.

    • @onwednesdayswewearpink2761
      @onwednesdayswewearpink2761 5 месяцев назад +6

      The other prisons will be F'ing with them...stealing their food ECT.

    • @stephanyhdz92
      @stephanyhdz92 5 месяцев назад

      We can't be so sure of this with others there too

    • @dolly6782
      @dolly6782 5 месяцев назад +3

      No when they are sentenced & sent to prison they will not have it easy, inmates will definitely let them know what they think..

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 5 месяцев назад

      I never being in prison and I am planing on not going ever. The food, accommodations are horrible. They do not take I showers every day. The food is like bologna sandwich, hotdog, mac and cheese. Maybe a fruit every here and there. Many gain weight after only a few months in prison. It is not about nutrition, but keeping them alive, that’s it. Both of them are having a hard time, for sure.

    • @povang
      @povang 2 месяца назад

      Female prison are very nice, clean, and safe. Female prisons are held to a much higher standard than mens.

  • @kerrysmiles
    @kerrysmiles 5 месяцев назад +118

    OMG if she gets 60 years I'll cry. I hope so. As someone that suffered at the hands of a LDS family services 'therapist' this means a lot.

    • @chiberjuberdourado2487
      @chiberjuberdourado2487 5 месяцев назад +14

      I’m sorry you experienced that horror.💛

    • @user-uu1hv8nv6i
      @user-uu1hv8nv6i 5 месяцев назад +3

      I agree with you

    • @Jettypilelegs
      @Jettypilelegs 5 месяцев назад +2

      Much love 💕

    • @hayleyashton5854
      @hayleyashton5854 5 месяцев назад +5

      I’m so sorry that happened to you. Sadly Utah’s law caps the maximum sentence of 30 years for this crime, even though technically it should be 60. Lots of Utah’s laws I don’t understand!

    • @softestsoftmatter
      @softestsoftmatter 5 месяцев назад

      I’m sorry you went through all that suffering 💔 If they don’t get their punishment here - they WILL get it when they leave the Earth. God sees everything 🙏🏼 Please be easy on yourself ♥️✨🌷

  • @dreamonqt
    @dreamonqt 5 месяцев назад +191

    Jodi pleaded guilty because of the enormous amount of evidence and people to cooperate that her behavior and treatment of the children was an established and ongoing behavior for years. She is hoping for less time by pleading guilty. I hope the judge gives her the max.

    • @bradleypaulus2926
      @bradleypaulus2926 5 месяцев назад +17

      Everyone does.

    • @JoBlo321
      @JoBlo321 5 месяцев назад +9

      We always hope that and then the judge comes back and disappoints everyone.

  • @buzzkillnten1746
    @buzzkillnten1746 5 месяцев назад +198

    Every child deserves parents..not every parent deserves children.

  • @brianna3965
    @brianna3965 5 месяцев назад +229

    Absolutely disgusting for Jodi to tell the kids they’re evil for acting like normal children and having emotions. Making them believe they are at fault, so disgusting. I hope they’re getting the therapy and love they deserve

    • @JoBlo321
      @JoBlo321 5 месяцев назад +8

      If they are still with the LDS church and have contact with their father...my guess is they aren't!

    • @_Nat_A_
      @_Nat_A_ 5 месяцев назад +11

      I don’t think Kevin has custody of any of the minor children. They may all need to be in specialized therapy while with CPS. Kevin will have to do things to prove he is a safe custodian parent, like intensive therapy to unravel the crazy beliefs he and Ruby were easily led to believe by Jodi.

    • @Starfish2145
      @Starfish2145 5 месяцев назад +11

      The Mormon church has been covering for and promoting this woman for years

    • @Lucaz99
      @Lucaz99 5 месяцев назад

      @@Starfish2145barely did they know she hated them and wanted to form her own cult, dumbasses

    • @camcat26
      @camcat26 5 месяцев назад +4

      Shari, the oldest sister, currently has custody and has mentioned being a fan of therapy. Given that she’s 20 and a full-time student, I’m not sure what she’s able to provide, who’s helping her, and how people helping her feel about therapy

  • @coll4455
    @coll4455 5 месяцев назад +156

    I’m so proud of Jesse! Thank you for speaking out and sharing your story

    • @georgewashington3555
      @georgewashington3555 5 месяцев назад +4

      yes Jesse is impressive , beautiful and eloquent. All the best Jesse and happy new year.

  • @gtaylor6937
    @gtaylor6937 5 месяцев назад +42

    Those dark bags under poor Russell's eyes in so many photographs is chilling. I've never seen a young kid have them - he must have been malnourished and stressed for long periods of time. Poor kid.

  • @angelbusby1100
    @angelbusby1100 5 месяцев назад +249

    Jesse amazes me with her strength. They are very articulate and so brave to be in the public eye. I hope Jodi has seen at least one of the interviews Jesse has given. I would love to see Jodi’s face at the hearing in 8 months when she sees Jesse in the courtroom. Jesse deserves all the peace and joy this world has to offer.

    • @cindyb8775
      @cindyb8775 5 месяцев назад +22

      very well said. and Jesse is so beautiful. A beautiful eloquent person

    • @levithewonderdog335
      @levithewonderdog335 5 месяцев назад +16

      ​@@cindyb8775totally agree she is both so intelligent and eloquent!

    • @parrotsandmore7446
      @parrotsandmore7446 5 месяцев назад +4

      Oh I’m sure if Jesse is her niece, her sister/ family members have told her all about Jesse’s interviews!

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 5 месяцев назад +21

      Just a reminder, Jesse is know as they/them. Of course you don’t know, maybe next time. It is hard to keep up with that.

    • @angelbusby1100
      @angelbusby1100 5 месяцев назад +12

      @@laurenmay2098 thank you for that. I thought I changed it but have since edited it.

  • @LeiJ1111
    @LeiJ1111 5 месяцев назад +40

    Maybe the teacher who used to call Ruby because the little girl forgot her lunch and didn't have anything to eat will be mad that this specific charge has been dropped. Ruby's answer was that it was the girl fault because she was in charge of making it herself. She did starve her kids before Jodi. She's not sorry, she's sorry she got caught and even the hearing show was for the cameras.

  • @GloriaW888
    @GloriaW888 5 месяцев назад +22

    Jodi’s favorite emotion is anger? Some of the stuff she said are a red flag! She is a perfect definition of distortion!

  • @patrickcoppens2164
    @patrickcoppens2164 5 месяцев назад +199

    Considering everything this young woman endured at the hands of the monster she had as an Aunt it is amazing that she has such absolute control of her thoughts and emotions. Considering the situation she is an eloquent and articulate speaker. Hopefully all of this will help her heal.

    • @laura121684
      @laura121684 5 месяцев назад +1

      *woman

    • @JohannaVanWinkle
      @JohannaVanWinkle 5 месяцев назад +4

      We only wish the best for this young woman! So brave.... and a survivor! I hope she keeps speaking out!

    • @levithewonderdog335
      @levithewonderdog335 5 месяцев назад +15

      ​@laura121684 oh stop with being the"word" police! It could have just been a typo. Try concentrating on the actual subject and not correcting people's grammar ugh!

    • @laura121684
      @laura121684 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@levithewonderdog335 First off, I wasn't even speaking to you, so I have no idea why you're even triggered. Second, it's likely not a typo, as I see the same error all over the internet. And finally, you're not my boss, my mother, or my father. If I wish to be the "word" police, then I shall.

    • @levithewonderdog335
      @levithewonderdog335 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@laura121684 oooh touchy touchy lol..

  • @judistocker1811
    @judistocker1811 5 месяцев назад +29

    So happy RF was strong enough to get away and get help. It would be awesome to hear from that wonderful neighbor during the sentencing of both. He is the kind Angel RF and EF needed

  • @janicedevereux2839
    @janicedevereux2839 5 месяцев назад +39

    If Ruby actually had the “deepest regret for my children” she would OWN what she did to her children.
    Instead, she blames it on her partner. Blaming someone else for what they did to HER CHILDREN is not taking ownership at all.
    If she was truly regretful, she wouldn’t be blaming anybody but herself .

    • @user-gf8wu4yo3h
      @user-gf8wu4yo3h 4 месяца назад

      We’ll it was she threatened to take the kifs

    • @taylors445
      @taylors445 2 месяца назад

      @@user-gf8wu4yo3hI think you’re mistaken about Ruby. Yes she was manipulated by Jodi but she was still an active participant in her children’s torture. They have recently released her private journal where Ruby documented a lot of the horrific abuse she was inflicting upon her own children. She got some kind of sick satisfaction from hurting her own children.

    • @OmEvul1415
      @OmEvul1415 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@taylors445 That means she's a sadist and not manipulated. Jodi gave her a space and opportunity to indulge in her darkest desires.

  • @VeeLondon1449
    @VeeLondon1449 5 месяцев назад +226

    Did Jodi and Ruby plead guilty, in the hope that it will stop details like making Eve jump into/onto a cactus, multiple times. This is absolutely pure torture. I’m horrified by these women.

    • @ShanieCakesss
      @ShanieCakesss 5 месяцев назад +4

      Wwll those details are public. Simply a plea

    • @ShanieCakesss
      @ShanieCakesss 5 месяцев назад +10

      Now minor children don't have to testify

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 5 месяцев назад +32

      Nope, it will be available 30 days after sentencing. They made a deal, IMO because their bishops visited them and probably pushed toward a plea. The church does not wanted the limelight, that’s for sure.

    • @AllisonNelson-zu2bx
      @AllisonNelson-zu2bx 5 месяцев назад +8

      WHAT?!! 😮

    • @cuckertarlson5310
      @cuckertarlson5310 5 месяцев назад +5

      They didn't have a choice. Their lawyers probably weren't going to attack the kids.

  • @user-qt7nq5xl1m
    @user-qt7nq5xl1m 5 месяцев назад +38

    This lady pled guilty so the truth would not be recorded or heard by the public. I am certain it was worse than what we have heard so far.

  • @esteemedmortal5917
    @esteemedmortal5917 5 месяцев назад +40

    Well, if it’s any consolation to Jesse, no one believed Jodi’s lawyer when they said she was concerned for the kids

  • @2rific_2
    @2rific_2 5 месяцев назад +32

    Neither of these women are sorry or remorseful. They are only sorry that they were caught. Ruby and her "with sorrow for my family and my chidren.....guilty" remark was not convincing. It just seemed as if she said that hoping to sway the Judge when it comes time for sentencing.

    • @f.miller9522
      @f.miller9522 5 месяцев назад

      I'm thinking the mother knows what she's done. I think she thought that what was happening was weird. Unfortunately, not weird enough.

    • @mschenandlerbong8539
      @mschenandlerbong8539 5 месяцев назад +3

      I don't think they are sorry, but they are afraid. Jodi more than Ruby. Ruby isn't quite all there. Jodi knows exactly and precisely what's she done.

    • @f.miller9522
      @f.miller9522 5 месяцев назад

      @@virtuserable wow, they told you all of that?

  • @lorrainemingrino9928
    @lorrainemingrino9928 5 месяцев назад +40

    Seeing a smiling Evie in a video you just showed reminded me of a prayer she wrote that her egg donor showed her audience it said “Heavenly Father please help me to survive” I believe her prayer was answered when her brave brother escaped and ran for help! I pray for them all the time and the other children also! Jessie is so brave thank you for bringing Jessie on!

    • @bexproctor360
      @bexproctor360 5 месяцев назад

      It's so sad, if my grandchild ever prayed just to survive? And the fact that Ruby her mom thought that it was cute ? I mean come on ??

  • @nrivera4380
    @nrivera4380 5 месяцев назад +18

    Jodie probably didn't want her niece and all potential witnesses testifying against her and letting the world know how wicked she was and is.

  • @sinead187
    @sinead187 5 месяцев назад +113

    I'm having a hard time believing the husband knew nothing of what was going on with his children. Poor children. It's sad to say but there wasn't one fit adult in there lives to parent them. Not one.

    • @Mike_Jones281
      @Mike_Jones281 5 месяцев назад +20

      Yeah. For some reason, they are giving him a pass.

    • @4fNReal-
      @4fNReal- 5 месяцев назад +10

      Innocent til proven guilty, remember?! He hadn't even been in contact with them for over a year, as per Jodie. And I believe things were maybe not ideal for awhile, but I think things got EXTREMELY WORSE, with Jodie present...

    • @trishayamada807
      @trishayamada807 5 месяцев назад +12

      Not being in contact for over a year….reread that and explain how that’s being a good parent.

    • @nadzach
      @nadzach 5 месяцев назад +4

      Oh, yeah. There were reports of him pushing radical Mormon ideas in the classes he taught. Must have bee bad because he was teaching at a Mormon college. I imagine he was too busy "dating" to think about kids. I think he's the type who just wants to sue somebody. Anybody. I hope the kids are kept away from him.

    • @ritamariekelley4077
      @ritamariekelley4077 5 месяцев назад +4

      IMHO, Kevin needs to be investigated and arrested. He was complicit. Oh wait, it's Utah.

  • @janwilliams1781
    @janwilliams1781 5 месяцев назад +31

    Forced the child to jump on a cactus? OMG she’s evil!

    • @Rey-it3sg
      @Rey-it3sg 2 месяца назад +1

      The way Ruby describes her as cuddling with the cactus reminds me eerily of the Mother Monkey Experiment. Poor baby would rather fling herself into a cactus and stay there then have to be held by her evil mother.

  • @AngelaJaramillo-ll2hq
    @AngelaJaramillo-ll2hq 5 месяцев назад +20

    They Both deserve very lengthy prison sentences.

  • @brie3679
    @brie3679 5 месяцев назад +33

    I just wanna hug Russell and Eve and tell them they are good. Their hearts are good. They are the furthest thing from evil. They’re both such good kids.

  • @Jenn-ie5vf
    @Jenn-ie5vf 5 месяцев назад +69

    I think Ruby was so excited to be able to be even more abusive to her kids then she already was and have someone support her in that. Enter Jodi

    • @mississippiqueen3175
      @mississippiqueen3175 5 месяцев назад +11

      I agree, I don't think Ruby is a victim of Jodi. Birds of a feather...

    • @bexproctor360
      @bexproctor360 5 месяцев назад +2

      God that's so depressing, completely true ! But god so depressing 😢

  • @burbie1342
    @burbie1342 5 месяцев назад +31

    We are dealing with some truly evil spirit within this lady. If anger is her favorite emotion. Wow that says it all.

  • @lovebeeslovebees5055
    @lovebeeslovebees5055 5 месяцев назад +33

    I have heard the niece speak about her abusive ordeal; absolute travesty that her parents, the police, and no one in her church did anything or suspected anything; and these child abusers got away with this while having a channel on YT!

  • @tdhawk7284
    @tdhawk7284 5 месяцев назад +36

    I’m not an Utah resident, so I don’t know what is going on wrt accountability of the LDS Church and state CPS. Jodi got the most referrals from the LDS Church. CPS received numerous complaints about both Jodi and Ruby but DID NOTHING. Someone needs to be held accountable.

    • @silversmoke6
      @silversmoke6 5 месяцев назад +10

      Its not a coincidence that it wasn't taken seriously. A lot of top political figures are LDS. I suspect most of law enforcemt is too.

    • @user-gt7rv3tw6q
      @user-gt7rv3tw6q 5 месяцев назад +1

      I'm not a Utah resident either.
      These are sectarians.Nothing good ever happened to them.The history of sectarianism speaks directly about this-there are many problems with the law.
      I had to read Dvorkin's works about sects.There is so much evil in them nowhere in the history of the church.
      Stay away from them please.
      With the respect you deserve.♥️♥️♥️Happy New Year!

    • @mschenandlerbong8539
      @mschenandlerbong8539 5 месяцев назад

      @@silversmoke6That's totally irrelevant. Most of the state is LDS. Just like saying a Baptist would never be held accountable in a majority Baptist state. The LDS leaders either didn't know or couldn't prove what was going on. Listen to Jessie talk about how smart and manipulative and tricky her aunt was. Convincing. So please don't just say, the LDS are responsible. That's ridiculous.

    • @silversmoke6
      @silversmoke6 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@mschenandlerbong8539 except baptists arent a single unified religion with a shared doctrine. The LDS is akin to scientology and other such cults. It is absolutely relevent that people in positions of political power rub shpulders woth LDS leaders and are very happy to sweep things under the rug for a price
      Dont be so fking naive

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 5 месяцев назад +5

      The lds is very strong in the area. There is no way people will be held accountable for anything. By the way, the plea deals, I am sure the church is the one pushing both of them to just plead guilty and not shame more the church. It is horrible, but they have a lot power. Just like the university of Idaho destroying the house before the trial? I believe the church is even more powerful.

  • @Liciablyth
    @Liciablyth 5 месяцев назад +16

    Hildebrand's niece - thank you so much for your psycho-social maturity and clarity - despite your imprisonment and torture. So glad you are around to help educate everyone about these crimes. It is shocking that Hildebrand was doing to others what she was claiming they were being punished for. It is bizarre to me that associates - church and counselling etc. associates did not know or knew and did nothing about these crimes. Were they complicit -either by action or inaction?

  • @MrE001
    @MrE001 5 месяцев назад +10

    She absolutely wouldn't want the kids to testify, not because she doesn't want to harm them, but because if they did; their testimonies would be detrimental and damning to her case

  • @aok2727
    @aok2727 5 месяцев назад +33

    Jesse is so articulate and what she said had happened in her experience proved to be much of that the Franke children suffered. I am so sorry for what all three of these children experienced

  • @kimcwhite6509
    @kimcwhite6509 5 месяцев назад +10

    Ha, everything that Jodi stated in that video about 'distortion' is EVERYTHING she did to people in her so-called 'counseling!' She just made crap up as she went. How awful that she was allowed to treat her niece so horribly for years! She should've been put in prison for those actions.

  • @whenimonmymoon6822
    @whenimonmymoon6822 5 месяцев назад +54

    I'm really happy for all of Jodi's victims, getting the chance to hear her plead guilty must help heal a small bit of their pain. I'm really happy for Jessi though, this has to be so validating and affirming. ❤

  • @VeeLondon1449
    @VeeLondon1449 5 месяцев назад +58

    Hoping that Jessi feels vindicated, as they wasn’t believed for so many years. And they’re experience/pain dismissed by their family. I hope their parents/family have embraced and apologised to Jessi. Wishing all harmed, healing and peace.

  • @sassyess696
    @sassyess696 5 месяцев назад +32

    It’s not a tactic to save face, it’s a tactic all undeniably guilty parties use to perhaps minimise the length of their sentence and, to avoid more coming out. If, you had any chance of beating the charges against you, your lawyer would advise you accordingly. Both, Franke and Hildebrandt pled guilty because, they were never going to be found not guilty if it went to trial.

    • @gaiagreen2690
      @gaiagreen2690 5 месяцев назад

      True - unless there is real regret and remorse, as Ruby claims, or care for children's healing, as Jodi claims. In which case they would care less about themselves and maybe even accept the punishment as deserved. But there is no real insight and no regret in any of them. They both claim to be sorry but they behave like ordinary criminals, only interested in saving their ars*s. THAT is the ugly detail which is bothering everyone. Fake tears but real egoism.

  • @Fee212
    @Fee212 5 месяцев назад +9

    That neighbour sounded so upset and distressed at the sight of this boy's emaciated state and infected wounds. Poor man. 😢

  • @Taureanfitness
    @Taureanfitness 5 месяцев назад +11

    I think Jesse and any other victims that went to the police that were ignored. They should file a civil lawsuit

  • @jsunami
    @jsunami 5 месяцев назад +14

    Don't think that kind of trauma ever goes away completely~

  • @gaylegoodman9097
    @gaylegoodman9097 5 месяцев назад +9

    The 911 caller, breaking down, sounding like he’s wanting to cry, is heartbreaking. It adds so much to what he is witnessing. 😢😢😢

    • @ritamariekelley4077
      @ritamariekelley4077 5 месяцев назад +1

      He was crying, that's how horrific it was for RF.

  • @tammykelsey7877
    @tammykelsey7877 5 месяцев назад +30

    Sending love, peace, and healing to Jesse and all of the other victims! ❤️🙏✌🏻

  • @sarahh6329
    @sarahh6329 5 месяцев назад +5

    Jodi's house is up for sale for $5.3m. if anyone is curious about how far that little boy had to run to escape this, its 854 w tawgoo ct, ivins. The listing should popup.

  • @lisalovesphotography
    @lisalovesphotography 5 месяцев назад +22

    Gosh, Jessi is so intelligent, so well spoken, so clear in expressing themselves. I’m so glad they are healing and never fully bought in to the crap their aunt was trying to feed them.

  • @cat_lady_ballerina
    @cat_lady_ballerina 5 месяцев назад +34

    Jessi is a remarkable person. I wish them the best in life, as they have overcome so much and are an advocate in these moments that I cannot even imagine how this them feel.

    • @theresawilliams3341
      @theresawilliams3341 5 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you for using their correct pronouns. ❤

    • @blister9366
      @blister9366 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@theresawilliams3341shes a female.

    • @silversmoke6
      @silversmoke6 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@blister9366they are nonbinary. Dont be a knut. Read the room.

  • @kittykatFL23
    @kittykatFL23 5 месяцев назад +45

    Jessie is such a strong human. I wish them the absolute best! Their story has been such an important part of getting a fuller picture of this tragedy. The church is hiding their faces but they have a big part to play in this.

    • @MarceldeJong
      @MarceldeJong 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah the LDS church had a lot to answer for!

  • @ritajoerger8601
    @ritajoerger8601 5 месяцев назад +19

    This most lovely young lady has good strength, very articulate of pain experienced. I truly wish, pray this special lady will soar high in joy and peace despite the HORRIBLE pain she experienced and remembers Dont know your name..but will remember you..Cannot imagine doing this to my family...much less their children.

  • @rebeccaketner816
    @rebeccaketner816 5 месяцев назад +14

    I’m so, so glad Jessie is being a constant voice for the truth! Thank you.

  • @charleen2074
    @charleen2074 5 месяцев назад +17

    Jody does not care about the children. She cares about the mountain of evidence between Ruby and her children

  • @childtimematters513
    @childtimematters513 5 месяцев назад +20

    Both need at least 10 years per charge. 👍

    • @foxibot
      @foxibot 5 месяцев назад

      They were looking at 90 years each. So I imagine they will get at least 10 and maybe more. Just because they took a plea doesn’t mean they get a free pass.

  • @roxanne2881
    @roxanne2881 5 месяцев назад +19

    It would be nice if Jesse could talk to R and E later down the road, to assure them this wasn’t their fault, as they were told. I know it’s a lil different, as their own mother participated, but it could help the 3 of them, if they knew Jesse went thru the same thing. I say Ruby and Jodi deserve the same sentence.

  • @ircjesselee
    @ircjesselee 5 месяцев назад +7

    Good thing anger is her favorite emotion because she'll have a lot of that when commissary is sold out of Cup o' Noodles 😂

  • @Jaya-zn7vr
    @Jaya-zn7vr 5 месяцев назад +7

    I've seen we she lived. While Hildebrandt is talking distortion, she is literally on the floor above the 2 tortured children tied up in her basement! Distortion much?

  • @rosemarykarlsson593
    @rosemarykarlsson593 5 месяцев назад +16

    Excellent interview, please have her back often!

  • @NCYogini
    @NCYogini 5 месяцев назад +10

    Thanks for a great interview!!! So happy you gave Jesse this platform and room to speak and be heard. Hope she continues to heal💙

  • @suitcase6698
    @suitcase6698 5 месяцев назад +22

    Yes, what Ruby did was horrific and she absolutely needs to be held accountable but we cannot set Jodi aside. As Jessi mentioned the tactics are Jodi which she used for about 15 years

    • @silversmoke6
      @silversmoke6 5 месяцев назад +2

      I dont think anyone is setting Jodie aside...

  • @judygillespie3242
    @judygillespie3242 5 месяцев назад +13

    Praying for your healing Jessi. Stay strong.

  • @erubaba9010
    @erubaba9010 5 месяцев назад +21

    How ironic, she said control was being in distorsion, and both were control psycos.

    • @2rific_2
      @2rific_2 5 месяцев назад +6

      Don't forget that she also said: bullying, blaming, aggression, entitlement. Both Ruby and Jodi have always been in distortion.

  • @randomvintagefilm273
    @randomvintagefilm273 5 месяцев назад +36

    Jesse is so insightful and intelligent. I'm so glad she has been able to overcome the trauma with her head held high.

    • @abelis644
      @abelis644 5 месяцев назад +5

      they... and their.
      Jessi requests to be addressed to by the pronouns they/them.
      Thank you on their behalf.

    • @randomvintagefilm273
      @randomvintagefilm273 5 месяцев назад +1

      @abelis644 my bad, she is a nutcase then

  • @daniellealexander7392
    @daniellealexander7392 5 месяцев назад +11

    When I see these two women, I see the faces of pure Evil! Thank you, Jessie. You are so brave and so strong. Your voice has and will continue to make a difference.

  • @chellegoodfriend
    @chellegoodfriend 5 месяцев назад +34

    I always enjoy watching interviews with Jessi, they are so eloquent and well spoken

    • @jenniferjennifer9973
      @jenniferjennifer9973 5 месяцев назад +4

      Drop calling HER they it’s legit embarrassing

    • @silversmoke6
      @silversmoke6 5 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@jenniferjennifer9973whybare you so obsessed with other peoples use of "they"? Stop beingbsuch a big baby

    • @silversmoke6
      @silversmoke6 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@jenniferjennifer9973 honestly, what a fragile little man you are

    • @abelis644
      @abelis644 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@jenniferjennifer9973
      SHAME ON YOU.
      HIDEOUS!!!

    • @Smash_Nash
      @Smash_Nash 5 месяцев назад

      ​@jenniferjennifer9973 poor snowflake had "their" feelings hurt 😂

  • @pineapplebandit1785
    @pineapplebandit1785 5 месяцев назад +18

    My question to Jesse is. Since everything that has come out about Jodi , the charges, her pleading guilty. Has jesses parents reached out to her to apologize for their part in handing over their daughter to Jodi?

    • @HeidiThompson7
      @HeidiThompson7 5 месяцев назад +4

      They said in the Mormon Stories interview that their parents are major rug sweepers. Sweep it all under the rug and pretend everything is fine. From what I've seen their parents haven't changed their tune. I hope that it changes but I don't think they'll ever apologize to Jessi. I really don't think people like that are capable of that.

  • @depoquest7928
    @depoquest7928 5 месяцев назад +13

    He was lucky to get away. Horrible parents and Jodie.

  • @punky19761
    @punky19761 5 месяцев назад +17

    I wish Jesse all the best in life from here on out!! 🙌🏽 All that education did not cultivate a conscience in Jodi. I hope she gets the longest possible sentence. I hope Ruby and Jodi both do. We’re not at all surprised that anger is your favorite emotion, Jodi.

  • @kchristine7064
    @kchristine7064 5 месяцев назад +10

    So thankful for Jesse. Continue to fight like you are! You are amazing!

  • @theperfecthousewife4399
    @theperfecthousewife4399 5 месяцев назад +6

    Once they are sentenced and in big girl prison, let's see if they make it the 8 months once the other inmates hear what they've done to children...yikes

  • @Mindyhartwick
    @Mindyhartwick 5 месяцев назад +10

    I hope they get an attorney for the kids and sue the pants off of Jodi in a civil case.

  • @beareeves4923
    @beareeves4923 5 месяцев назад +11

    Neither of these women will receive a lengthy sentence. First they will get credit for the time they have currently served. They will get the minimum one year for each admission of guilt. That means credit for time served subtracted from 4 years. Then they get parole.

    • @onwednesdayswewearpink2761
      @onwednesdayswewearpink2761 5 месяцев назад +5

      Emily D bakers said more than 4 def. but wouldn't speculate beyond that

    • @calebmcintosh1991
      @calebmcintosh1991 5 месяцев назад

      That's up to the judge. Nothing in either plea deal holds the judge to reduce the sentences.

  • @Mari-go5hc
    @Mari-go5hc 5 месяцев назад +6

    Hidden True Crime did a zillow tour of Jodi's house. Its up for sale for over 5 million! Its unbelievable. Also shows the room where Rubys young daughter was held. It a mircle the boy was able to get out. The hous was over ten thousand square feet.

  • @rhiannonrose4841
    @rhiannonrose4841 5 месяцев назад +5

    Her definition of distortion is literally everything her and Ruby Did!

  • @sandrafunny957
    @sandrafunny957 5 месяцев назад +3

    It seems SHE'S "distortion" by her own description

  • @martinezanamaria26
    @martinezanamaria26 5 месяцев назад +3

    Her family owes her an apology for no protecting her

  • @jenicdarling9425
    @jenicdarling9425 5 месяцев назад +6

    The older kids who weren’t there with the lil ones were cleaning the mom’s friend house who’s also involved in the company. That woman had to kno something and went along like why are u having ur friends kids clean ur house??? She said she was asked to watch em and thought oh ya I could, my house needs to be cleaned anyway like what?!

    • @moestein6972
      @moestein6972 5 месяцев назад

      As someone raised in a very strict LDS family, we were expected to earn our keep every day. This often includes cleaning and cooking for members of the church. Usually they rewarded us with some sugary treat we didn't get at home. Sugary foods were only allowed at church events, or rewarding acts of service.

  • @angels0auras
    @angels0auras 5 месяцев назад +7

    Totally agree with the neice.
    The trial would have brought out all the nitty gritty details.

  • @IzzyMariel
    @IzzyMariel 5 месяцев назад +13

    Jesse is an absolute rockstar!!!

  • @amykru
    @amykru 5 месяцев назад +17

    I love Jessi! Jessi and Jesse - Justice for Jessi! Thank you for speaking out against Jodi!

  • @angelaame6148
    @angelaame6148 5 месяцев назад +5

    I'm sure anger is prevalent in the jail she's in .. Let's see if it remains her favorite emotion...

  • @denisewaller307
    @denisewaller307 5 месяцев назад +14

    Jesse is a beautiful well spoken young woman. May she continue to heal and offer support to the other victims❤️

  • @Velvetfish2
    @Velvetfish2 5 месяцев назад +6

    “The invisibility of harm” if not for the visible wounds ..would we know? Good point!

  • @hoptoit5910
    @hoptoit5910 5 месяцев назад +5

    The kids are going to spill the beans on their father eventually. That he’s not also locked up is just crazy.

  • @jmb5924
    @jmb5924 5 месяцев назад +4

    I love listening to the niece. It’s horrible what happened to her, and I’m sure her healing journey is a long one. She is so articulate, calm, focused and raises such intelligent analysis of Jodi’s actions. This young woman deserves a lot of support and love.

  • @dianamarie1652
    @dianamarie1652 5 месяцев назад +4

    There was more between Jodie and Ruby relationship, Jodie is a monster and they are equally guilty and I pray they get 60 years! I pray for continue healing for Jesse, and the Franke family. Thank God this little boy was able to escape and run to the neighbor. Thank God for the neighbor who acted quickly and did the right thing! Otherwise it could have been worse!!

  • @princekareem
    @princekareem 5 месяцев назад +8

    Has Jessi considered civil action against Jodi? Jodi has her $5m house on sale right now and will make several mill profit from that

  • @savannahhargis
    @savannahhargis 5 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you Jessie, for standing up against your abuser, and helping to make sure she never abuses another child in her life time.

  • @swannavon
    @swannavon 5 месяцев назад +9

    Jesse is remarkably intelligent, and they have a lot of courage.

  • @nancyreichenbach2938
    @nancyreichenbach2938 5 месяцев назад +13

    Knowing right from wrong . Ruby forgot? Sorry...she was wide awake and chose to allow all this to happen

    • @f.miller9522
      @f.miller9522 5 месяцев назад +1

      That doesn't mean she wasn't manipulated. Some people accept hook lines and sinker because of their personalities. Of course she's still guilty.

    • @nancyreichenbach2938
      @nancyreichenbach2938 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@f.miller9522 I could never be manipulated into being business partners with someone with that ideology. She clearly agreed with it.

    • @Jennchannel24
      @Jennchannel24 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@nancyreichenbach2938yeah also she’s an adult so it’s ridiculous to use that excuse she wasn’t a child manipulated she was a grown women with multiple kids in which she should know to care for but instead she hated them and wanted to see them in pain.

    • @f.miller9522
      @f.miller9522 5 месяцев назад

      @@nancyreichenbach2938 well, I don't think manipulation works that way. They didn't start out as partners. So there was a lot of time to screw with ones mind.

  • @courtneyvanpatten6345
    @courtneyvanpatten6345 5 месяцев назад +2

    But…wait….isn’t that list of distortion characteristics everything they were doing to the kids?!?! Do they believe distortion is good? I thought they said it was bad? Evil just doesn’t make sense I guess

  • @meleahwoodbury1975
    @meleahwoodbury1975 5 месяцев назад +2

    In case friends of the internet world are not familiar with this region of the country/state. I live in the same city as this was happening in. Summer here a brutal. 104 is about the average temperature range and the heat is dry and unrelenting. Think when you open your oven anf get blasted in the face with the escaping radiant heat. That is what it feels like stepping out of your car or front door of your home. I imagine it is similar to phoenix,az for those who are familiar. It is so incredibly unbearable. My heart dropped hearing some of the details of the charges regarding forced outside activities and work. It is a miracle these children survived this summer. My heart is heavy for this family for these sweet children

  • @snowwhite2524
    @snowwhite2524 5 месяцев назад +8

    Jessie's empathy for Russell and Eve is beautiful. Jessie is such a strong person and I hope that they find peace, healing, and happiness. ❤ I'm grateful that Jessie is going to go to Jodi's parole hearing to help hold Jodi accountable and keep her in prison where she can't harm anymore children.

  • @lorieatamian4532
    @lorieatamian4532 5 месяцев назад +7

    Why can’t they file new charges against Jody for what she did to Jessi? Since Jessi went to the police back then, shouldn’t their statute of limitations be preserved?

    • @silversmoke6
      @silversmoke6 5 месяцев назад +2

      No. Charges must be filed in order to stop time.

    • @maureenstevens6824
      @maureenstevens6824 5 месяцев назад +8

      I believe there should NEVER be a statute of limitation on ANY CRIME AGAINST A CHILD!!!

  • @bradleypaulus2926
    @bradleypaulus2926 5 месяцев назад +4

    Every single person hopes Jodi gets many many years in prison. She's a real monster.

  • @laraoneal7284
    @laraoneal7284 5 месяцев назад +2

    Why wasn’t the niece listened to when she reported HILDEBRANDT?

  • @effie3798
    @effie3798 5 месяцев назад +5

    All of her described traits of distortion is exactly what she did. Strange.

  • @zsasizen
    @zsasizen 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great interview! Thanks!

  • @cramaqueen2889
    @cramaqueen2889 5 месяцев назад +2

    I like the "mrs HELLdebrant" slip from the judge 😂

  • @carmenj5045
    @carmenj5045 5 месяцев назад +16

    I like this girl .. she’s going in a good direction.. 👍🏽👍🏽.. all the power to her

  • @Dj-zz
    @Dj-zz 5 месяцев назад +2

    Good grief. No mother treats a child like Franke & doesn’t know that it’s wrong. Now claiming that she was manipulated. That’s a trying to save your bacon tactic. Franke deserves 60 yrs. For sure 30 yrs. before parole eligibility.