great video, amazing craft, i've looked at the making of video and just don't quite understand how the vtol wings work. are they classed as a separate craft? hoping to build something cool like this soon, even if its just to go to orbit and dock with my space station. btw amazing vid again you have a new subscriber, all the demos and other vids are great for ksp keep them coming :) ( i know they take a while though )
The original video was stock hinges, they still are stock hinges just the engines are modified a little. And for that, meh. Much worse crimes have happened than changing stats so that a craft that flew a year ago can still fly like it did. It wasn't a big deal for me, the stock hinge VTOL wing was still amazing even if it would require another engine on each side. I can't do hinges at all and that's the big thing for me with the video.
Guys, he admitted that it is technically “cheating.” He’s not trying to hide it. Even if this is cheating, building something like this requires a lot of skill.
I am sure that Harzatish is not reading your or my coment because he finisht his Last Video for 3 years so his Chanel is out stopt i thougt that he is Doing more Videos but he left his channel with 67000 suscribers 😔
Problem is, if you mod the game and say "this is modded", then it's not cheating, it's modding. Cheating is when you say it's stock and then mod your parts to have no dry mass and/or your engines to have higher thrust and Isp. Then nobody can replicate your achievements not because you are better than them, but because you have an unfair advantage - i.e., you are cheating. If you provide the list of mods you used so that they can try to do the same without the handicap, then it's not cheatnig.
Yeah, after he got caught, there was certainly no admission before then. Lance Armstrong eventually admitted he cheated after he got caught, that doesn't make all of his victories suddenly ok.
Your first Mun landing is always the hardest. By the time you're experienced enough to do something like the mission in this video, it'll probably feel easier than the first time you reached Kerbin orbit. All you have to do is overcome the doubt and have confidence that you can reach this level of expertise.
Just as you were coming in for the runway I thought "Isn't it amazing how you can come to land on a tiny runway just after travelling billions of kilometres between planets?" Then you decide to land... elsewhere.
Hazard-ish owning up to his "cheating" in the description really undoes damage towards his reputation for me. Not that cheating to make an awesome vehicle would put a damper on his reputation realistically. Keep it up, bud!
yes i even made up a later theroy saying this well hazard-ish might have been messing around with gravity before and might have accidentally left it on
there a way to not cheat, while keeping cool look, however, this requires non stock way, use B9 aerospace's jet engines, they are much more powerful than stock jet engine, and some of them can rotate, the infernal robotics will allow you to make tilt wing easier as that mod has parts that can rotate.
Jeez guys, really making sure this guy is hurting for increasing the thrust of his engines to give us a cool design. Im so glad one debunking video on one of his many high quality videos is really a valid reason to call him a dirty cheater or taking the easy way out.
yes he admitted it but as you can see this video was made 2 years ago he ganged the description after being debunked by matt lowne, this is just a clarification but I still love his channel and content and I forgived him
This was added after some other fellow KSP RUclipsrs called him out on making an edited craft. If they hadn't called him out I highly doubt that he would have added that in the description. Not to say that I don't like other videos from Hazardish,, it's this one video and the fuel thank to Tylo one that make him look bad.
Building an SSTO with stock tilting wings was great, going to Laythe and back with it without refueling was great too. Landing on the VAB when you got back was just being a show-off!
Always a treat to find a new Hazard-ish video in my subscriptions feed, and it never disappoints! Quality like this is totally worth waiting for, keep up the awesome work!
Wow. So much appeal to emotion down here, in the comments section. Yes. He faked it. I know. I don't care. I still watch his videos and I still look up to him. What he can do is impressive. Start behaving appropriately for your age and learn to leave things in the past.
Oh, so engine stats were improved to allow this beauty to do this mission. It's still a gorgeous build and video. Anyone that's pissed about the 'fake'-ness, do you also believe all the movies you watch are reality?
I think a lot of people need to calm down, I know Matt Lowne proved that this video was fake but that doesn't give people an excuses to rally against hazardish saying 'he doesn't deserve his subscribers' and that he is a 'cheater'. I am sure that not all Harzardish's videos are cheats. All we need is better clariety when cheats are used, because to be honest I don't care if this video is fake as obviously some real time and effort was put into this and from a cinematic stand point it is excellent. As long as Hazardish makes clear when he uses cheats and when he doesn't just keep what you are doing man. Edit: This could have all been a honest mistake as Harzardish had a lot of mods installed at the time therefore he could has accidently used a more powerful engine. (In the build video for the tiltwing you can see the RAPIER engine is slightly more powerful). I think Vaos's video explains it best
I actually agree with you when it comes to videos like this, but for his Tylo reddit challenge video, he definitely deserves all the hate he is getting. Those challenges are supposed to be actual tests of skill using the in-game stock physics and him cheating at it, if found out to be deliberate, shows a lot for his character.
There are many videos of modded KSP, and they are very impressive. That's not the problem here. The problem is that he used non-stock parts, and then dishonestly presented his footage as stock. Even now, after fessing up, he still hasn't mentioned his upgraded parts in his list of mods used. Cheating bastard.
@@Mrcake0103 This tilt wing SSTO isn't a challenge, it's still the product of hard work. Do you get ridiculed for playing games your own way when not doing a community challenge? I'd understand if this was a challenge but it's not.
To be honest, I think this is why he cheated with this SSTO, he made a really cool looking SSTO with a really cool concept, that being tilting wings, anyways, after creating it, no matter what he did, it did not work, but it was just to cool to scrap, so he cheated. He just should have clarified he cheated in the first place
Coming back to this 3 years later and I don’t even think this is cheating at all- he is making stuff for entertaining and for inspiring us and things always work out differently in different versions so if he is ‘cheating his viewers’ that’s not really the case- he also has shown many times he edits things so that pretty much clears it all up
ReStarT you mean, let me lie about an accomplishment I recorded with cheating and then let all these people shower me with praise for 10 months straight until someone calls me out on it and proves what I claimed to do was a total lie? Naw bruh.
Joe Blazer Exactly. And not saying you don't have a right to be pissed, just saying that you should think of what to do in this kind of situation before hitting "send".
what.juste what. i 've been waiting to see that beast fly since your stock hinges video, and i didn't expect better (better than this would be hard tough) ps : so i'm not the only one who collects samples in sandbox mode ;) PS2: my reaction when i saw you weren't aligned on the runway : on the left...ON THE LEFT NOW ... oh wait...no...no...please don't do it ... i never landed any vtol there, you can't... wait he's doing it... assh*le.
Incredibly impressive!!! What I find especially amazing is that you managed to pull off such a complex design while still maintaining excellent aesthetics. I tip my non-existent hat off to you good sir.
Meanwhile at my KSC: YAY!!! I finally made a rocket that is capable to go at over 0.07 m/s and 0.1 meters above the launchpad without making Kerbin explode or summoning the Kraken!!!
I mean, it's still a nice video. And the biggest part of the craft - the hinges that allow for the whole V-tol thing switching thing - are unmodded. Increased engine stats really isn't that much of a big deal.
Well he wasn’t wrong for doing it though. Sure it’s a bit cheaty, but I understand why he did it. He explained why in his interview with Matt lowne, that he had this design back before they changed the engine stats, and he promised he’d make a video about it, so when he did, he learned that the engine stats had changed so he had to do some tweaking to make it work.
Hazard-ish, I have noted before I see ways to optimize it for sheer performance and overall functionality, but that doesn't seem to be what you're about. You want to do with some gusto. Even going to the Mun, the most mundane of destinations, with the proper sense of style and in a way no one has done before will still be impressive and a good watch. Keep at it.
I think all the critisism is a bit harsh. I thought the KSP community was too nice to do such an attack on Hazard-ish. The original video was great and I don't feel played at all even though I know it is not possible. The focus on the video was the tilt-wing mechanism and flying to Laythe was a nice illustratuon. I really wish Hazard-ish and Lowne would collab
Lands on the V.A.B. *Drops Mike." This is incredible, I don't know which one is more impressive, the 3.6 ton rocket to Eeloo or this. Great Job! Thanks for the awesome video!
LOL. I've done some mighty impressive things, myself. But a tilt-wing VTOL landing on the VAb at almost Bingo fuel, that will never not be cool. Although I am only a little over 250 hours, so I have a long way to go.
You're amazing. I wish you will do a making-off, when we see how many try and retry you do for a video like this (and how you make your decisions and stuff)
Hazardish it's clear that you put a lot of effort into making this and other videos but it is sad to see you took the easy way out. You were and inspiration to me and were one of the reasons I bought the game in the first place. Please try to make your videos legit. This isn't a reason people should start hardcore hating either, it's a learning experience for everyone. Please be more honest next time.
hazard-ish was the first one who make this Aircraft,matt lowne make this 2 months ago,Meanwhile hazardous make it on 2017,i dont know how much months ago
Hazard-ish I know that you fudged engine stats and all that, but honestly the design of this craft is wonderful and it genuinely inspired me back when I first saw it. I had immediately gone and made a tilt-wing VTOL SSTO of my own, and to this day it's honestly the craft I'm the most proud of! It can deliver a small payload to LKO and that's perfectly fine for me. I really hope that the backlash has cooled down, and it seems at least to me that it has. You've explained and apologized more than enough, and I really respect you for that and i respect Matt for going about it respectfully. You're incredibly talented and creative and this one mistake has no business hurting your ability to keep making awesome crafts going forward. Godspeed you beautiful bastard.
@6:50 engines are burning but fuel consumption rate is 0.00 how is this stock? Don't get me wrong I think your video is awesome and that VTOL SSTO was sick as tits and the first tilt wing in KSP I've ever laid eyes on. But how was your fuel consumption at 0.00 during burn?
The tilt-wing is technically comprised of two separate crafts- the wing, and the body. These couple together for horizontal flight and seperate for the VTOL mode. In that instance, the engines were throttled up on the wing, but I had switched to the main body of the craft, which has 0 thrust, to control the decent.
+Hazard-ish Ahh I see now. Wasn't buying Milo's explanation of consumption rate less than 0.01 with 8 engines burning. But your explanation makes perfect sense. Awesome build man.
Man are you a photographer? Almost every scene in these videos is wallpaper worthy. Also your landing approaches are so precise they look TAS. How on Kerbin do you do that! ^_^
So what if he modified the stats of the engines? It’s a great video with great editing and cinematography. It’s meant to entertain and that’s what it does
Hazard-ish do you think you can make a Moho SSTO without re-fueling, I've only seen two on RUclips (TurboPumped's- ruclips.net/video/nX3PX0MkN8M/видео.html and Hypnautical's- ruclips.net/video/5-nAopxwd9I/видео.html ) since the Aero update. I know they're really hard to make so that's why i think you can do it!
It's not hard per-se getting to Moho and back, just time-consuming. Aside from having to baby your engines to keep them from catching fire more than desired, it's just Dres.
The build video and this one were awesome! Now I'm discovering a bit of a controversy over them, but who really cares? It's a fun, entertaining video! Still impressive mechanics and production! I imagine it took a huge amount of time and energy and mental capacity to make it all happen! So I appreciate it.
His thrust limiter is set to pretty much 0 though and he is slowing down even without the engines running later on. So that might have just been for the show-effect... (or he really used up less than 0.5 units of Lf - depending on engine thrust limiting which is not shown it might be possible) I agree with ML in general but in this case I would give him the benefit of the doubt.
You make the best KSP videos by far. Not only your designs and skill are amazing, but man those camera shots... they are beautiful. I know it takes ages for you to make one of these videos, but they are unique and really worth it.
I love how the video title of this used to be normal. Then it was changed to something like The Infamous Tilt-Wing Video And now it's The Fake Tilt-Wing Video
I watched a video about different version of ksp has different mass and threat on engines like the engine that hazardish used. From 4:00 of this video I can see the interior of the spacecraft is different than 1.22 version, is this matter?
So many people are unsubbing, and I understand why. They have their reasons, and they are all well founded in fact and math. This is all going to hit you hard, and you will have to figure out how to deal with all of this. I will not unsubscribe. You may have deceived people, but I will give you a chance to redeem yourself and return to your status of the best ssto maker the game has ever seen. I will not choose a side. I will just let you deal with this yourself, and help you when called, but only if it is for the right reasons. This video is amazing nonetheless, and you are great at cinematics. Good luck, and best wishes to you. Deal with this how you see fit, and have a great day.
I'm sorry to say this but the mission isn't possible because he would have ran out of fuel on the descent to Laythe because if you notice he had his engines on and they weren't using fuel...
The tilt-wing is technically comprised of two separate crafts- the wing, and the body. These couple together for horizontal flight and seperate for the VTOL mode. In that instance, the engines were throttled up on the wing, but I had switched to the main body of the craft, which has 0 thrust, to control the decent so it looked like no fuel was being used when it actually was. When I re-dock the wing module you can see that the whole craft has less total fuel.
Another happy landing
Hazard-ish
*cough cough* What's the situation captain?
No no no, that's just...NO. Did you sell your soul to a demon or something in exchange of your talent or what ?
nah. He's just better than you. I've been to laythe once
In my view the struts are evil!
great video, amazing craft, i've looked at the making of video and just don't quite understand how the vtol wings work. are they classed as a separate craft? hoping to build something cool like this soon, even if its just to go to orbit and dock with my space station. btw amazing vid again you have a new subscriber, all the demos and other vids are great for ksp keep them coming :) ( i know they take a while though )
Got to admit that he has dignity to keep this up for criticism.
The original video was stock hinges, they still are stock hinges just the engines are modified a little. And for that, meh. Much worse crimes have happened than changing stats so that a craft that flew a year ago can still fly like it did. It wasn't a big deal for me, the stock hinge VTOL wing was still amazing even if it would require another engine on each side. I can't do hinges at all and that's the big thing for me with the video.
Guys, he admitted that it is technically “cheating.” He’s not trying to hide it. Even if this is cheating, building something like this requires a lot of skill.
I am sure that Harzatish is not reading your or my coment because he finisht his Last Video for 3 years so his Chanel is out stopt i thougt that he is Doing more Videos but he left his channel with 67000 suscribers 😔
@@galilelollel9658 WE BACK BOYS
This usually happens to me when I spend 30 hours making a craft and it doesn't work
I agree, strongly. I can't do a DUna mission with 200+ hours on the game :|
If you cheated that's fine if you say you did but if you try and hide the fact you cheated it's not ok
Problem is, if you mod the game and say "this is modded", then it's not cheating, it's modding. Cheating is when you say it's stock and then mod your parts to have no dry mass and/or your engines to have higher thrust and Isp.
Then nobody can replicate your achievements not because you are better than them, but because you have an unfair advantage - i.e., you are cheating. If you provide the list of mods you used so that they can try to do the same without the handicap, then it's not cheatnig.
Well, he admitted that he was cheating, so I would say it's OK.
Yeah, after he got caught, there was certainly no admission before then. Lance Armstrong eventually admitted he cheated after he got caught, that doesn't make all of his victories suddenly ok.
I ment that if he said it in the start of the vid that he cheated it's ok
Think about it he still made a stock hinge that would still be entertaining
Domas Kubilius yep
*Lands for the first time on mun today*, sees: "Fully Stock Single Stage Tilt-Wing VTOL To Laythe"
kill me plz
Hunting Teemo why? it should motivate, not discourage you? you think any of these KSP wizards got it right and complex from the very beginning?
For most of them - no, but Hazard-ish definitely has some black magic going on and there is no way he was ever bad.
Hunting Teemo: think of it as inspiration.. Don't let.. Le.. THIS, diminish you.. Strive to be like the, to be gud
Your first Mun landing is always the hardest. By the time you're experienced enough to do something like the mission in this video, it'll probably feel easier than the first time you reached Kerbin orbit. All you have to do is overcome the doubt and have confidence that you can reach this level of expertise.
What you did was quite an accomplishment!
10:17 4 rocks on the entire surface of Laythe and you manage to run over all of them... feels like something out of The Odyssey by Bill
Dat Quantum Tunneling!
Solid Banana this video is fake.
John Doe lets spread the news, shall we?
Solid Banana it's fake
Solid Banana yeah, hes got some cheats or something going on. I found out the hard way that rocks WILL fuck up a plane
aaaaaaaand its bullshit. Math does not lies.
the delta v, the mass and the fuel dont match up. besides you would never be able to lift that with just 8 rapiers.
There is something seriously off with this ship's dry mass, is what's happening.
@@lithobreak3812hey,starship V1 has this problem too😂using 100 ton payload
Just as you were coming in for the runway I thought "Isn't it amazing how you can come to land on a tiny runway just after travelling billions of kilometres between planets?"
Then you decide to land... elsewhere.
Camicus - No because it is fake
Camicus - have you see Matt lownes vid?
It's fake
Everyone shut the hell up, We all know its fake, Camicus knows it, AND YOU DONT HAVE TO FREAKING REPEAT IT A MILLION TIMES
Thanks ^-^
@@camicus-3249 they got r/woooosh ed
Hazard-ish owning up to his "cheating" in the description really undoes damage towards his reputation for me. Not that cheating to make an awesome vehicle would put a damper on his reputation realistically. Keep it up, bud!
Ferociousfeind I would be fine If he’d done that in the first place, or put it in the actual video.
yes i even made up a later theroy saying this well hazard-ish might have been messing around with gravity before and might have accidentally left it on
Great build hazard-ish!!! but how about next time lets try not to cheat... K?
TheFinny THIS is the kind of comment I was looking for. Have an upvo- no. This should be top comment.
I guess this story with Matt and Hazard-ish will only increase the view count of the video, so it's kinda black pyar, which helps
there a way to not cheat, while keeping cool look, however, this requires non stock way, use B9 aerospace's jet engines, they are much more powerful than stock jet engine, and some of them can rotate, the infernal robotics will allow you to make tilt wing easier as that mod has parts that can rotate.
Some people use mods but i just edit the game data to make engine isp OP
Also he built it before 1.0 with the changes on aerodynamics, so i guess thats what happend.
Please someone correct me If im wrong
"another happy landing"
omg prequel memes are EVERYWHERE, EVEN IN LAYTHE!
lucas13flu watch Matt lownes vid
It's fake
Just did man. So fucking disapointed. I'm just waiting for hazardish to respond to the drama and depending on it I'm gonna unsub.
lucas13flu the craft, it's fake, but that reference was spot-on
@@imanukekaboom3715 the craft isn't fake the only things he did was change the engine configs in the game files and disable reentry burn
@@honeydew5022 so what? lol
It's been 84 years........
Matthew Payton worth every second
Matthew Payton uts fake
Holy s*** I'm old
I dont care if the engine stats were tweaked, this is some damn fine stuff! Rewatched at least 5 times so far! Love the retowave.
Kerbal: if you look under the mün in the telescope you should see jool!
Kerbal’s son: wait I see a crazy looking plane heading for one of its moons
It’s impossible to see that plane at astronomical distance
@@kerbodynamicx472 it's a joke
Jeez guys, really making sure this guy is hurting for increasing the thrust of his engines to give us a cool design. Im so glad one debunking video on one of his many high quality videos is really a valid reason to call him a dirty cheater or taking the easy way out.
Description: "PLEASE NOTE: Engine stats were increased in order to make this video."
People: "Fake"
Dani Paunov thank you.
yes he admitted it but as you can see this video was made 2 years ago he ganged the description after being debunked by matt lowne, this is just a clarification but I still love his channel
and content and I forgived him
This was added after some other fellow KSP RUclipsrs called him out on making an edited craft. If they hadn't called him out I highly doubt that he would have added that in the description. Not to say that I don't like other videos from Hazardish,, it's this one video and the fuel thank to Tylo one that make him look bad.
Building an SSTO with stock tilting wings was great, going to Laythe and back with it without refueling was great too.
Landing on the VAB when you got back was just being a show-off!
Erik Warnes I can barely land a kerbal to the VAB helipad
Comes back and Lands on the vehicle Asemblybuilding on a few drops of fulle!
Conclusion: Mind Blown
Always a treat to find a new Hazard-ish video in my subscriptions feed, and it never disappoints!
Quality like this is totally worth waiting for, keep up the awesome work!
Wow. So much appeal to emotion down here, in the comments section.
Yes. He faked it. I know. I don't care. I still watch his videos and I still look up to him. What he can do is impressive.
Start behaving appropriately for your age and learn to leave things in the past.
Exactly.
Delay it’s a joke dumbass
But we cant trust him. How many videos had he cheated on? It seems as if his trustworthiness has gone.
Awesome video! I think I'm going to re-watch that video where you built this VTOL SSTO for inspiration! :D
Oh, so engine stats were improved to allow this beauty to do this mission. It's still a gorgeous build and video.
Anyone that's pissed about the 'fake'-ness, do you also believe all the movies you watch are reality?
I think a lot of people need to calm down, I know Matt Lowne proved that this video was fake but that doesn't give people an excuses to rally against hazardish saying 'he doesn't deserve his subscribers' and that he is a 'cheater'. I am sure that not all Harzardish's videos are cheats. All we need is better clariety when cheats are used, because to be honest I don't care if this video is fake as obviously some real time and effort was put into this and from a cinematic stand point it is excellent. As long as Hazardish makes clear when he uses cheats and when he doesn't just keep what you are doing man.
Edit: This could have all been a honest mistake as Harzardish had a lot of mods installed at the time therefore he could has accidently used a more powerful engine. (In the build video for the tiltwing you can see the RAPIER engine is slightly more powerful). I think Vaos's video explains it best
I actually agree with you when it comes to videos like this, but for his Tylo reddit challenge video, he definitely deserves all the hate he is getting. Those challenges are supposed to be actual tests of skill using the in-game stock physics and him cheating at it, if found out to be deliberate, shows a lot for his character.
Freak80MC I suppose but we will have to wait a see what Hazardish says when he explains
There are many videos of modded KSP, and they are very impressive. That's not the problem here. The problem is that he used non-stock parts, and then dishonestly presented his footage as stock. Even now, after fessing up, he still hasn't mentioned his upgraded parts in his list of mods used.
Cheating bastard.
@@Mrcake0103 This tilt wing SSTO isn't a challenge, it's still the product of hard work. Do you get ridiculed for playing games your own way when not doing a community challenge? I'd understand if this was a challenge but it's not.
To be honest, I think this is why he cheated with this SSTO, he made a really cool looking SSTO with a really cool concept, that being tilting wings, anyways, after creating it, no matter what he did, it did not work, but it was just to cool to scrap, so he cheated. He just should have clarified he cheated in the first place
The production quality of this video is freaking off the charts mate. Beautiful work!
Marcus House Hahahaha, i see what you did there
its faked
nothing here would actually work, I tried
off the charts...
*but it’s fake.*
Coming back to this 3 years later and I don’t even think this is cheating at all- he is making stuff for entertaining and for inspiring us and things always work out differently in different versions so if he is ‘cheating his viewers’ that’s not really the case- he also has shown many times he edits things so that pretty much clears it all up
Beware the Matt Lowne subscribers....
How can you make turning parts??? Like I have been making crafts, and some designs require turning parts, but I dont even know how to get them...
You got called out, son.
Peter Marsh He was forgiven already.,
By who? He lied for views. Just as shady as clickbait fake ass thumbnail pics.
Joe Blazer Let's see you get put into his situation and see how you react.
ReStarT you mean, let me lie about an accomplishment I recorded with cheating and then let all these people shower me with praise for 10 months straight until someone calls me out on it and proves what I claimed to do was a total lie? Naw bruh.
Joe Blazer Exactly. And not saying you don't have a right to be pissed, just saying that you should think of what to do in this kind of situation before hitting "send".
Im Sorry for the update breaking your ssto dude 😔
what.juste what.
i 've been waiting to see that beast fly since your stock hinges video, and i didn't expect better (better than this would be hard tough)
ps : so i'm not the only one who collects samples in sandbox mode ;)
PS2: my reaction when i saw you weren't aligned on the runway : on the left...ON THE LEFT NOW ... oh wait...no...no...please don't do it ... i never landed any vtol there, you can't... wait he's doing it...
assh*le.
Don't get mad dude, he faked it all.
Sashagamer614 it's fake
i've seen matt's vidéo guys
@@Sashagamer614 they get r/woooosh
modded or not, this is still very impressive
Incredibly impressive!!! What I find especially amazing is that you managed to pull off such a complex design while still maintaining excellent aesthetics. I tip my non-existent hat off to you good sir.
Everyone's angry about the cheating... he admitted to it and apologized... calm down.
Meanwhile at my KSC:
YAY!!! I finally made a rocket that is capable to go at over 0.07 m/s and 0.1 meters above the launchpad without making Kerbin explode or summoning the Kraken!!!
Antonio Tiano this vid is fake watch Matt lowne
Yep... but I think some people are exaggerating, spamming this everywhere...
SoarkRoll please see my comment with the links in it. then you can see the whole story, not just that first video.
u got a subscriber for bold honesty. politicians should take notice.
So majestic and graceful. Outstanding work, as always!
Even though its fake, it looks cool
Yay!! It's finally here! I've been awaiting this video for ages.
Dude, you have the balls to still have this on youtube. For me, i respect that.
I mean, it's still a nice video. And the biggest part of the craft - the hinges that allow for the whole V-tol thing switching thing - are unmodded. Increased engine stats really isn't that much of a big deal.
Well he wasn’t wrong for doing it though. Sure it’s a bit cheaty, but I understand why he did it. He explained why in his interview with Matt lowne, that he had this design back before they changed the engine stats, and he promised he’d make a video about it, so when he did, he learned that the engine stats had changed so he had to do some tweaking to make it work.
NO WAY! That landing was insane!
Hazard-ish, I have noted before I see ways to optimize it for sheer performance and overall functionality, but that doesn't seem to be what you're about. You want to do with some gusto. Even going to the Mun, the most mundane of destinations, with the proper sense of style and in a way no one has done before will still be impressive and a good watch. Keep at it.
Now thats a spaceship.
I think all the critisism is a bit harsh. I thought the KSP community was too nice to do such an attack on Hazard-ish.
The original video was great and I don't feel played at all even though I know it is not possible.
The focus on the video was the tilt-wing mechanism and flying to Laythe was a nice illustratuon.
I really wish Hazard-ish and Lowne would collab
Can you really see jool from kerbin? Wow!
Aidan Pratt probably with the infrared telescope
Lands on the V.A.B. *Drops Mike." This is incredible, I don't know which one is more impressive, the 3.6 ton rocket to Eeloo or this. Great Job! Thanks for the awesome video!
LOL. I've done some mighty impressive things, myself. But a tilt-wing VTOL landing on the VAb at almost Bingo fuel, that will never not be cool. Although I am only a little over 250 hours, so I have a long way to go.
Although, landing on the VAB with a VTOL isn't by itself the greatest thing ever, I'm just saying after landing on Laythe it sure seems amazing.
he also returned basically without using fuel for most transfers until he returned to the home planet... that's some planning
Don't get too encouraged... The video is fake, go watch Matt Lowne's video.
Nicholas Boswell it's fake
Never in a million years would I be able to do that complicated of a mission.
Great work and videos, keep it up dude.
Hersheyspace successful aerobrakes and gravity assists are hard and requires experience
Please can you leave craft file, I have problems with building it
даня панихин Anyone would have problems building it. He used cheats to make it work.
@@patricklinnett1819 well ohok , i guess ill just TAKEOFF THE NORMAL WAY !!!
by the first 10 seconds, you've already got me hooked.
Damn.
I don't care if the configs were edited. It was a mistake, he admitted to it.
This is like a....
HYDRA
To do this without breaking ground is insane, let alone without mods this dude is crazy good at ksp
video is fake wath matt lownes video
Wait
You're amazing. I wish you will do a making-off, when we see how many try and retry you do for a video like this (and how you make your decisions and stuff)
You landed on the heli-pad!?
Holy fuck.
When he was approaching the VAB I was like: "No, no he can't just land on the top". And then my jaw dropped :D
I was just like, "No no no don't you dare... ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!? WHAT IS THIS WITCHCRAFT?!?!"
Falsone Plays This is fake. Go watch Matt Lowne's vid.
Martian 24 You kidding or...?
No. Go watch Matt Lowne's de-bunking vid
just love the epic scenes you put in, like the fly-by at 10:21
Hazardish it's clear that you put a lot of effort into making this and other videos but it is sad to see you took the easy way out. You were and inspiration to me and were one of the reasons I bought the game in the first place. Please try to make your videos legit. This isn't a reason people should start hardcore hating either, it's a learning experience for everyone. Please be more honest next time.
hullo dragon
hazard-ish was the first one who make this Aircraft,matt lowne make this 2 months ago,Meanwhile hazardous make it on 2017,i dont know how much months ago
I waited so long for this...
_Cheats were used in the making of this video._
Guess where I found that and stop the hating. Please. He admitted it!
Scrolling through the comments post-exposed:
80% Negative/Strongly Negative response
15% Neutral response
5% Positive/Strongly Positive response
Hazard-ish, you are really the boss about SSTOs.
I love that you did ! Congratulation !
Hazard-ish I know that you fudged engine stats and all that, but honestly the design of this craft is wonderful and it genuinely inspired me back when I first saw it. I had immediately gone and made a tilt-wing VTOL SSTO of my own, and to this day it's honestly the craft I'm the most proud of! It can deliver a small payload to LKO and that's perfectly fine for me.
I really hope that the backlash has cooled down, and it seems at least to me that it has. You've explained and apologized more than enough, and I really respect you for that and i respect Matt for going about it respectfully. You're incredibly talented and creative and this one mistake has no business hurting your ability to keep making awesome crafts going forward. Godspeed you beautiful bastard.
Took you a while didn't it? No problem though, i can understand, this shit must take ages! Amazing job!
Also, that plane is an amazing beast
@6:50 engines are burning but fuel consumption rate is 0.00 how is this stock? Don't get me wrong I think your video is awesome and that VTOL SSTO was sick as tits and the first tilt wing in KSP I've ever laid eyes on. But how was your fuel consumption at 0.00 during burn?
in KSP 0.00 is different from 0, 0 means no consumption, 0.00 means consumption rounds to below 0.01, so he just had his engines at VERY low throttles
The tilt-wing is technically comprised of two separate crafts- the wing, and the body. These couple together for horizontal flight and seperate for the VTOL mode. In that instance, the engines were throttled up on the wing, but I had switched to the main body of the craft, which has 0 thrust, to control the decent.
+Hazard-ish Ahh I see now. Wasn't buying Milo's explanation of consumption rate less than 0.01 with 8 engines burning. But your explanation makes perfect sense. Awesome build man.
It's fake, that's why. See Matt Lowne
@Hazard-ish... Bruh
Couldn't expect less from your endings, man haha
The Day and Night cycle on Laythe with Jool in the background and the shadows of the moons on its surface, amazing
u just can't do it the easy way nowadays
MrOverfloater unless you cheat like this guy did
How did you calculate kerbin-kerbin gravity assist on your return? Is there a way to see your semi-major axis or orbital period in stock?
Now I can see why you don't upload often- magic like this takes time!
that's why i kept my subscription!!
Kerbal ogic This is fake watch Matt lowes video
get rid of it, this video is FAKE AS FUCK. go watch Matt Lowne's video
Hanna Sheratsky no he faked it
Hanna Sheratsky this video is fake.
FINALLY! ALMOST A YEAR IN THE MAKING AND IT'S HERE!
Harry Summers More like a year of cheating.
And people like you suck non-stop hating
Man are you a photographer? Almost every scene in these videos is wallpaper worthy. Also your landing approaches are so precise they look TAS. How on Kerbin do you do that! ^_^
Damian Reloaded have you see Matt lowne a vid? It's fake
I never considered that possibility to be out of the question. The videos are still amazing. I hope the children don't get too upset about it tho. ^_^
@@honeydew5022 Its well known. But the cinematography is still impressive.
I'm pretty sure this is the exact tilt wing ssto he made a tutorial on,so there's that.
Why can't I like the video a hundred times??!!
Fake or not, I think it is awesome!
So what if he modified the stats of the engines? It’s a great video with great editing and cinematography. It’s meant to entertain and that’s what it does
I recon they lowered the gravity
Hazard-ish do you think you can make a Moho SSTO without re-fueling, I've only seen two on RUclips (TurboPumped's-
ruclips.net/video/nX3PX0MkN8M/видео.html and Hypnautical's- ruclips.net/video/5-nAopxwd9I/видео.html ) since the Aero update. I know they're really hard to make so that's why i think you can do it!
It's not hard per-se getting to Moho and back, just time-consuming. Aside from having to baby your engines to keep them from catching fire more than desired, it's just Dres.
Moho Doesn't burn engines anymore.
Myah, a Mohole SSTO then? Are you satisfied?
Baxter, don't encourage him, he's gonna make another fake video after that word of encouragement.
AstroMoo2 Minecrafter yeah I just finished watching that. Maybe I'll ask Bradley whistance to do it
The build video and this one were awesome! Now I'm discovering a bit of a controversy over them, but who really cares? It's a fun, entertaining video! Still impressive mechanics and production! I imagine it took a huge amount of time and energy and mental capacity to make it all happen! So I appreciate it.
FAKE!! (Edit) ok, sorry man. Awesome cinematically, awesome music, a very sincere apology, yeah. Sorry.
Awesome navigation, man, Im your fan now.
How did you make the wings move?
bananakawan13 Inferno Robotics I think
Cherry Bomba but the title says stock
bananakawan13 Idk then
Cherry Bomba read the title noob it says stock
Oh and very carefully obviously
I was dead-confused when you were going towards the VAB with next to no fuel. Well done!
he's literally using 0 fuel in 7:18 when the engines are clearly running
His thrust limiter is set to pretty much 0 though and he is slowing down even without the engines running later on. So that might have just been for the show-effect... (or he really used up less than 0.5 units of Lf - depending on engine thrust limiting which is not shown it might be possible)
I agree with ML in general but in this case I would give him the benefit of the doubt.
He is focusing main fuselage, so the fuel cunsumption is not shown. You can see that the engines are using fuel at 7:50.
i agree but the whole thing is fake check matt lowe he made a video proving it with the math to back it up
@@scaleslizard160 but you cant ignore the fact that the craft was awesome tho
Incredible mission, incredible video. My favorite shot is that reverse toward Jool at 5:48 - that whole sequence is just gorgeous.
Perhaps he used parts from an old version, and had to edit them to be the same in the new version?
I am 4 years late, but yes, in his interview with Matt lowne, he explains that that is why he modded the craft.
It’s fracked like siy
Hey Hazard, just a quick question. Why did you not contribute to the recently created youtuber space station? Were you not invited or did you decline?
I was invited and planned to be involved but had to drop out to IRL commitments :(
imagine how much more fancy it would have been o.O
Bummer. At least this project was a good replacement :)
Keep up the good work
he declined because cheats aren't allowed there...
;)
Hazard-ish Try making a giant donut in space!
Not going to deny it, that is one sexy spaceplane. I like the piping look from the size-0 tanks running along the sides.
Holy shit, after watching Matte Lownes video on disproving this, reading the entirety of the description is....sad.
Talking about the patreon thing in there.
You make the best KSP videos by far. Not only your designs and skill are amazing, but man those camera shots... they are beautiful. I know it takes ages for you to make one of these videos, but they are unique and really worth it.
In the words of the Romulan Senator from that Deep Space 9 episode: "It's A FAAAAAAAKE!"
I love how the video title of this used to be normal.
Then it was changed to something like The Infamous Tilt-Wing Video
And now it's The Fake Tilt-Wing Video
Nice cheats, bruv, you really impressed me...
SaBoTage nice cheats!
I'm so impressed...
SaBoTage It's not even proven that he used cheats. It's only suspected, with some evidence backing it.
SaBoTage It's not even proven that he used cheats. It's only suspected, with some evidence backing it.
with really strong evidence. dont try and defend hazard
oh man that shot of the joolian moons behind the mun at the start was fantastic.
That aerobrake at jool.... ur vids are just incredible man :D
Play "contact" by daft punk during that part for additional awesomeness!
Its completely faked.
It's fake, unfortunately.
Ray Crate this video is fake.
Nathan Wheeler DUDE, WATCH HIS VIDEO!!! THE NUMBERS AND SCIENCE!!
I watched a video about different version of ksp has different mass and threat on engines like the engine that hazardish used. From 4:00 of this video I can see the interior of the spacecraft is different than 1.22 version, is this matter?
So many people are unsubbing, and I understand why. They have their reasons, and they are all well founded in fact and math. This is all going to hit you hard, and you will have to figure out how to deal with all of this. I will not unsubscribe. You may have deceived people, but I will give you a chance to redeem yourself and return to your status of the best ssto maker the game has ever seen. I will not choose a side. I will just let you deal with this yourself, and help you when called, but only if it is for the right reasons. This video is amazing nonetheless, and you are great at cinematics. Good luck, and best wishes to you. Deal with this how you see fit, and have a great day.
WOW that's a really slim margin, and you still manage to land the thing THERE pinpoint. Amazing.
I liked this video, shame to learn the craft and trip were cheated in different ways.
Hey Hazard-ish, great video buddy!
Just wondering what sun flare set are you using?
I'm sorry to say this but the mission isn't possible because he would have ran out of fuel on the descent to Laythe because if you notice he had his engines on and they weren't using fuel...
The tilt-wing is technically comprised of two separate crafts- the wing, and the body. These couple together for horizontal flight and seperate for the VTOL mode. In that instance, the engines were throttled up on the wing, but I had switched to the main body of the craft, which has 0 thrust, to control the decent so it looked like no fuel was being used when it actually was. When I re-dock the wing module you can see that the whole craft has less total fuel.
+Hazard-ish well I'm glad you told me about that because I really enjoy your videos and I would like to hope you won't let me or your other fans down
4:30 I know it isn't stock, but I don't care. It's beautiful.
You make great video's and awesome crafts, but please dont give us false inspiration.