I am suddenly struck with the profound significance of returning to earth after 2.6 years. Not only are you finally returning home, to where everyone you've ever known is, but there's a sense of ennui there. 2.6 years is an entire chapter of your life. That station, and maybe those bases, will have become it's own home to you. It's just like any change that comes with life I suppose. The heartbreaking totality of moving your life somewhere new, or returning to where you once knew. It is a wildly esoteric and yet intensely familiar situation.
I believe I recall reading somewhere that the command leader of Apollo 17 said some along the lines of "People talk about living and work on the moon, but I did you know I had a job and I had a house..." he was much more reflective on the experience then his partner who realized since it was the last Apollo mission and time was short he had to focus on the tasks at hand as there wasn't going to be another chance to get this scientific data.
@@SD352-68 Which is why it won't be done with *current* (that is, chemical) propulsion... Even solid-core nuclear-thermal won't cut it for that distance. It'll have to be gas-core NTRs at least, maybe nuclear salt water rockets, or if possible, fusion (I don't expect any amendments to the Outer Space Treaty that would allow nuclear pulse). Scott Manley took an interesting look at this: ruclips.net/video/QEZv_OXA_NI/видео.html
I haven't seen a cinematic KSP video of this higher quality since Maccollo's RSS Venus mission: ruclips.net/video/ONP9jS14toE/видео.html Really touched the sweet spot for me.
@@40watt53 I'm very sure chemical rockets would still exist by the time we get around colonising the outer solar system. Currently they're the best for launching things into orbit, I doubt we'd develop anything better for that job in the next 100 years ( i may be wrong), plus Methane is quite easy to find in our solar system so it makes for a sensible fuel option. And no before you ask nuclear engines are a very bad idea for launching stuff, in space YES theyre great, launching fuck no:D
This is so creative! The use of the balloon and heli-rover on Titan threw me for a loop, I had no idea they were coming. I could tell every inch of this mission was meticulously planned out, and I love it!
Ksp2 is more of a cartoon ish game, and I like it that way, as it makes it more approachable for people new to space stuff. However, I bet mods will come out to make it look stunning
@@AHHHHHHHH21 I tried to play ksp2 on start of access , and tired yesterday .back then, and now I struggling to put a simple rocket to the moon and it soo laggy sometimes, interface looks familiar but something wrong and it seems much harder to craft the same stuff …
@@AHHHHHHHH21visuals aren't what makes anything approachable. Its the gameplay. And the fact that ksp2 runs like garbage on a big chunk of consumer hardware destroys any idea of 'approachability'.
Yay, he's back! No wonder this video took so long if the mission duration is literally 2.6 years :D By the way: Merry Christmas and a happy new year to everyone reading this comment.
With traditional engines (he used a fusion engine for the main ship) this same mission would take around 17 years to complete. 8 years one way from Earth to Saturn and 8 years back
This is something that KSP2 will hopefully have in terms of rocketry and parts, absolutely beautiful looking! UPDATE: looks like KSP 2 will have some futuristic stuff, considering the developer of FFT is on their team, KSP 2 may not come with stuff like this in the base game but mods will definitely bring this and alot more update 2: ksp 2 sucks update 3: ksp 2 might come back, for science update is pretty good update 4: its joever for ksp 2
Fun fact: Titan is the second most habitable body in the solar system. This is, for the most part, because the atmospheric pressure on Titan is so high that you wouldn't need a full space suit to take a walk on its surface, though you should pack your best winter clothes, as the average surface temperature comes in at around -182°C, and you'd still need an oxygen mask to breathe on Titan, as its atmosphere is not breathable to humans. However, due to the high surface pressure, you would not need a pressure suit to breathe there, provided the oxygen mask outputs the right pressure.
@@222cubing8 The pressure in and off itself would not be a problem. What is important for breathing is that 1: You get a certain pressure of oxygen, and 2: You get a certain percentage of it past some amount of pressure While our lungs are not made for 1.4 atmospheres, if you do the math, it does work out.
Actually, Venus is more habitable in the upper atmosphere where you would only need and oxygen mask and a plastic suit for acid protection, assuming you are standing on a floating vessel
@@TheDennys21 Well, while you probably would need a suit that covers your full body and has active heating to not freeze to death after more than a few minutes, you wouldn't need a full on space suit. The reason you need one on the Moon is that the Moon is in a vacuum. This makes it impossible for you to breathe, even if you have an oxygen mask, because the pressure difference is too big. Your lungs couldn't move the air around, even if there was enough of it for you to breathe, because the pressure difference between the inside of your lung and the outside of your chest would be too big. However, Titan's atmosphere is dense enough that, provided you had an oxygen mask designed for the enviornment, you very much could breathe there, so you wouldn't need a full on pressure suit. Furthermore, any coverings over your face you would need would mostly be to prevent frostbite from liquid hydrocarbon (which, by the way, it rains on Titan), but the atmosphere itself doesn't contain any irritating gases, so you could do without for some time if you had to.
man you are criminally underrated. This is some fantastic film making, your projects are so well edited and your style of presentation is incredible. love your content, keep it up mate.
@@lucalis032 it’s a joke, and if they left at the same time the endurance would have arrived like 8 months earlier and gone through the wormhole already, because the journey to Saturn was 22 months long, so a little under 2 years, while the trip in the video took 2.6 years Edit: actually nvm I now see the entire mission including the return lasted 2.6 years, so they would have arrived way before the endurance
Wow! Finally got the time to sit down and watch after Christmas madness. What a great follow-up to your previous video. Some thoughts: -I love the VentureStar-esque crew launch vehicle. Making it compatible with both Earth and Titan launch is an elegant solution. -So cool to see the inflatable-headshield interstage, blunt body upper stage reentry vehicle concept. The ITS-inspired(?) booster is neat too. -300 days to Saturn: wow. Ain't fusion fun! -A helicopter rover is exactly the right kind of madness that only a Titan mission can make people come up with. Such an alien-looking design. -The balloon-launched Titan ascent was a similar moment. Anything is possible on Titan it seems lol -I also laughed at the presentation of the Enceladus mission. After a 4 month stay in comparative luxury on possibly the most fun and interesting body in the solar system, I'm sure I wouldn't be too broken up about "just" taking a quick flags-and-footprints jaunt like that. I don't know to what extent you head-cannon this stuff, or if it's based on real concepts/research like the Jupiter mission was, but I wanted to ask- do you envision this architecture as doing the first crewed missions to Saturn, or is it a later/more mature design? Do you think this is a late 2000s mission or 2100s? Is the transfer vehicle capable of crew missions to Uranus/Neptune (with modifications), or do you envision starting from a clean slate if you ever pursue missions like those? Thanks for the wonderful content. Hope to see more from you in the future.
Probably early 2100s. But by then there would be sufficient infrastructure in the outer solar system so something like this could be used to transfer heavier payloads to anywhere in the solar system.
Thanks for your thoughts! There was definitely some head-cannon involved in making this, it would be pretty dumb to land on such an interesting moon like Enceladus and just plant a flag, just imagine another month of science on the surface :D The main technological hurdles are obviously the engine and fusion fuel storage, I'm certainly not a qualified person to talk about this but I would guess a mission like this is at least 100 years in the future (the HOPE study also proposed a fusion option using magnetized target fusion with similar performance to the engine in this video). I do hope we don't have to wait 100 years to see humans at Saturn, a mission with less payload (maybe only landing on Enceladus) would certainly be possible with the technology from my last video. Since the spacecraft itself comes back to Earth in one piece and the transfer time is only one year, I could see this as the beginning of regular missions to Saturn to build a larger colony, maybe even with people living permanently on Titan.
@@NessusKSP Assuming SpaceX starts sending people to Mars in 2031 (relatively conservative but a little optimistic too), and Starship launch cost gets down to low single digit millions (possible even without rapid reusability (although I think they will achieve that eventually within the next 5-10 years), just have to have a large fleet of fully reusable rockets), I think we will see an unprecedented growth of the "space economy". Assuming this happens, its reasonable to imagine there could be a decently sized colony at Mars by 2050 (anywhere between tens of thousands to around a hundred thousand people possibly). Once you have a colony at Mars with tens of thousands of people, you could go from there to Ceres and from Ceres to Jupiter and so on. That kind of development would probably put any first humans to Saturn sometime in the 2070s-2090s I imagine. Another way of getting to Saturn potentially much sooner in the future is if plasma magnet sails are used, which could be feasible if the launch costs lower enough that testing them by non-government/non-profit groups becomes feasible. In that case I think people could go to Saturn by the 2050s.
@@fork9001 NTR Isp is inversely proportional to molar mass after decomposition. LCH4 decomposes to HCx radicals and hydrogen/protons at NTR temperatures so you get 60-80% of LH2 performance without the retarded headaches that come along with LH2 handling.
@@johnsteiner3417 That's exactly my point, they were theoretical, but now they are standard and have been improved upon for years tot he point where we can't imagine a world without them.
Funny thing is, most of the issues preventing us from actually doing this is budgetary, the technology is basically there already, we just don't have the money to actually do it.
Absolutely astonishing. I really, reallllllly like the immense attention to detail and cinematicness while retaining the hard logistics of the mission. I probably should go pick up my jaw from the basement...
Fantastic. Your execution of streamlined designs, parts, and modularity would make an actual NASA project manager proud. Now that you have that BEAST in orbit, you can use it for more and more missions!
I’m pretty sure it’s unrealistic. Titan has a dense atmosphere and lower gravity than Earth but still this balloon doesn’t look nearly voluminous enough to displace several tons of atmosphere (especially to rise up to 60km).
@@40watt53 Good point, does this mean you need like 9 times less balloon volume? That’s still only a factor of 2.1 for the balloon diameter thanks to the square cube law.
Saturn is gorgeous, and you made something almost prettier, not to mention the detail and believability of everything just from the sheer confidence and care put into presenting it.
Wow. Just. WOW! I got KSP for Christmas last year, and have fallen in love with the immensely prosperous opportunities the game presents the playerbase. This is a shinning example of what can be accomplished. Not only is the gameplay beyond anything I could dream of making, but it is seamlessly edited and was a delight to watch. Keep up the amazing work, and I hope Nasa, SpaceX, Firefly, or some other space organization hires you. Keep up the good work!
Ksp is absolutely meaningless if you're trying to become an actual aerospace engineer or something in the rocket science field. Sorry to break it to you. I was a very good ksp player, went to uni for aerospace engineering and flunked out. Never went to a party, never once drank or did drugs, I studied more than anyone in my hall (no seriously, I studied like 5 hours a day), got a tutor for calculus, but I was a terrible test taker and could not get good grades no matter what.
@@bailey2517 Dude, you arent supposed to take it literally. You would have to be an idiot if you think that a video game can get you a job at NASA lmao. This just seems like an excuse to target your vent at someone else.
Absolutely beautifully made. The Craft, the mission, the visuals... It felt Zen and Epic at the same time. I already knew you were a great modder, but watching your videos kind of makes me doubt you're a real person. How can you be this good at everything :D Happy Holidays o/
Amazing! Well done! Bravo! As someone who considers Titan my “sweetheart” among the terrestrial bodies, I am absolutely in love with this video! Delighted to see that you’ve incorporated a lifting body design for the descent onto Titan, I’ve been raving about that for some time now! What really amazed be here was the fast paced ground station construction. It had a sort of simple yet complex elegance to it. Like trailer homes in space, such an obvious yet ingenious solution. I really have to give you props for that. The 330 day transfer as well, that I hadn’t even considered. I guess the future is brachistochromic, isn’t it? “If I shoot for Saturn and miss, at least I’ll land among the stars” said the wayward colony, zipping out of Earth’s gravity well at hundreds of kilometers per second, strapped to the business end of a fusion reactor. This is an incredible mission you’ve put into cinematic form. Well done! PS Like everyone else, I have to admit I gave a chuckle at the helicopter rover scene. I’m sure it’d work, one of the many benefits of Titan’s peculiar environment, but it is really reminiscent of the opening dialogue of the Bee Movie, “its wings are too small for its body, yet it flies anyway, because it doesn’t care what you think”!
Blown away by all the work that had to go into this. The mods, the great framerate, with the mods. The amazing textures and detail and the great shots to explain the mission. Thank you for spending the time to do this!
This might be the best KSP video ever made, absolutely fantastic! Thank you for all the effort that went into this, truly! I hope there is another video coming some day
Wow. I think that’s really cool. I think it’s especially interesting how the secondary stage could be recovered and how the first stage looked a lot like it’s from a SpaceX rocket.
Idk why, but that stubby helicopter/rover taking off and slowly doing camera fly-bys had me busting out laughing. KSP can take one of the most serious scientific subjects of space exploration and add just a hair of goofy elements, and that's why I LOVE this game.
This is really impressive! Far Future tech, let alone Near Future tech is so hard to work with, especially considering you’re doing this on RO/RSS! Well done!
Amazing! I would go as far as to say I’m even more impressed by the editing than the gameplay itself. But even that was just phenomenal. It brought a smile to my face when the little helirover lifted off the ground along with On the Beautiful Blue Danube. Great video!
I un-liked it... just so I could like it again :) My gosh that was an extremely well thought out and executed mission! I've never seen anything quite on this level before. All of the sequences were very well recorded and put together too. I especially enjoyed the balloon ascent... that caught me so off guard and definitely surprised me. Kudos to you.
Amazing!!! A simple 'Like' could not justify the appreciation I have for the amount of efforts that not only went into creating the vehicles and conducting the mission, but to also create an amazing video from the captured footage is absolutely Above and Beyond. Great Job
It's amazing how the community is able to push OG KSP to the level Squad can't even dream of. But at the same time I would imagine the immense amount of time it takes to achieve this level of visual quality and structral stability (for the craft) via modding. *_FOR SCIENCE!!_*
If this mission were to happen in real life, I couldn’t even imagine how much money it would cost to make and how long it would take for that whole space station to be made and then how long it would take to get to Saturn and come back!
@@albertvanderheiden7419 Not if they used starships and designed the vehicle to be as cheap as possible. But we all know the only way that'd be possible if SpaceX was leading it, at least based on the current state of NASA.
@@therealist3495 In the current state of NASA and Congress's interests this mission would never even leave the pen that would be used to draw on the drawing board
It is just genius! I love this film, I would watch more of this kind of films. Beautiful editing, nice execution of the mission, well prepared. Please, make more video like this. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year as well!
Eu tenho KSP, mas parece que tenho um jogo completamente diferente desse aí da tela, me sinto jogando a versão infantil perto dessa magnificência mostrada no vídeo. Espetacular, estou sem palavras.
O sentimento é Exatamente o mesmo pra mim. É difícil construir uma máquina capaz de rodar a versão modded desse jogo sem lag e sem consumir todo o RAM.
LOVE! the idea of the trip you put forth. Not sure id trust a balloon to airlift my massive spaceship. But all great concepts. These are the types of minds we need. Imagination.
Damn that's beautifull ! I always wondered how y'all are making those very precise meetings in orbit. Everytime I tried to do a space station by assembling piece by piece in orbit, it went wrong D:
Man, i'm speechless.. this is SO COOOL TO WATCH. Please make more videos like this one! And keep doing it on KSP 2 when the time comes. PLEASE! PLEASE!
I wrote the comment above when I was just watching the firsts 10 min of the video. Now he is balloooning a shuttle to titan's extratosfere, jesus.... omg. I'm speechless man! haha
THATS WAS THE BEST VODEO I'VE EVER SEEN it was so emotional when the Crew Returns i c actually WAS in Tee Space Ship an i dropped a Tear because of my Family i Meet Alain After 2,9 Years. IWAS LITERALLY THE CREW 🤧😢😌 Thanks für the best Time Offizier my Life!!!!
Great mission, great video - amazing and inspiring. I'm gonna try something similar (once I'm done with all other projects, lol). Couple of lessons learned: no need for individual rovers/carts to transport every single base component - one could save mass by using a single cart and having the components support themselves (then this very same cart could be used to drive the crewed truck around). Also, I'd lift the manned vehicle on its own engines before switching to a balloon, avoiding a potential collision between the wings and ground (and also for roleplay value: one could want to make sure the engines are still working after 4 months in Titan's atmosphere).
You create the most amazing videos! I have been using some of your old configs you have shared, but I am wondering if there is a possibility you might share your configs and scripts for us plebs? I know you have spent hours upon hours on perfecting them, and it just looks amazing to pull something like this off. I would also watch you on twitch if you were to stream there ;)
Получил удовольствие от просмотра. Сам отыгрываю много в КСП и восхищен некоторыми инженерными решением из этого видео. Вы большой перфекционист. Спасибо за труд.
Well done! We enjoyed watching this!
Thank you so much! And thanks for making such an amazing game, I'm looking forward to KSP 2 ;)
How did THE ksp comment this!? Im impressed
Wow
1. Why does this only have 4 replies when im watching this?!
2. Well done, you watched your game grow
3. When is KSP2 coming out?
oh my god
I am suddenly struck with the profound significance of returning to earth after 2.6 years. Not only are you finally returning home, to where everyone you've ever known is, but there's a sense of ennui there. 2.6 years is an entire chapter of your life. That station, and maybe those bases, will have become it's own home to you. It's just like any change that comes with life I suppose. The heartbreaking totality of moving your life somewhere new, or returning to where you once knew. It is a wildly esoteric and yet intensely familiar situation.
This is exactly how I felt
I believe I recall reading somewhere that the command leader of Apollo 17 said some along the lines of "People talk about living and work on the moon, but I did you know I had a job and I had a house..." he was much more reflective on the experience then his partner who realized since it was the last Apollo mission and time was short he had to focus on the tasks at hand as there wasn't going to be another chance to get this scientific data.
@@SD352-68 Which is why it won't be done with *current* (that is, chemical) propulsion...
Even solid-core nuclear-thermal won't cut it for that distance. It'll have to be gas-core NTRs at least, maybe nuclear salt water rockets, or if possible, fusion (I don't expect any amendments to the Outer Space Treaty that would allow nuclear pulse).
Scott Manley took an interesting look at this:
ruclips.net/video/QEZv_OXA_NI/видео.html
although it is long, its LEAGUES shorter than if the craft used a standard Saturn transfer
and i am stuck thinking how this monstrosity of a ship turns
Gorgeous mission and video! The shots around Saturn are the most stunning I've seen in a ksp video. I'm a fan
U are real u can be verified
The biggest honor a ksp video can get: Stratzenblitz commenting
@@therobot1080 indeed
I haven't seen a cinematic KSP video of this higher quality since Maccollo's RSS Venus mission: ruclips.net/video/ONP9jS14toE/видео.html Really touched the sweet spot for me.
Whoa! This guy commented here!
“Getting this ISRU to work on Titan will be quite difficult.”
*throws fuel line into ocean*
“Okay everyone, back in the ship.”
Actually yeah wouldn't Titan be a good refueling destination, if chemical rockets would still be used at a time when you could do that?
@@40watt53 for lifting off and putting things into orbit yes, theyre good at that
@@40watt53 I'm very sure chemical rockets would still exist by the time we get around colonising the outer solar system. Currently they're the best for launching things into orbit, I doubt we'd develop anything better for that job in the next 100 years ( i may be wrong), plus Methane is quite easy to find in our solar system so it makes for a sensible fuel option. And no before you ask nuclear engines are a very bad idea for launching stuff, in space YES theyre great, launching fuck no:D
It uses nuclear thermal propulsion so yeah. If it needed oxygen ice is essentially rock there and they already have a nuclear reactor.
*ignites engine and catches entire planet on fire*
Virgin: Expendable lander
Chad: Reusable lander
Wizard: B A L L O O N
Old man: balloon AND house
The engineer: space elevator
Gigabrain: Just don't leave.
Thad: Debug console
Gad: TELEPORTING
This is so creative! The use of the balloon and heli-rover on Titan threw me for a loop, I had no idea they were coming. I could tell every inch of this mission was meticulously planned out, and I love it!
Hell yes!
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That awkward moment when this looks leagues better than KSP2…
Ksp2 is more of a cartoon ish game, and I like it that way, as it makes it more approachable for people new to space stuff. However, I bet mods will come out to make it look stunning
@@AHHHHHHHH21 I tried to play ksp2 on start of access , and tired yesterday .back then, and now I struggling to put a simple rocket to the moon and it soo laggy sometimes, interface looks familiar but something wrong and it seems much harder to craft the same stuff …
@@madzak9847 was talking about the visuals, not the gameplay
@@AHHHHHHHH21visuals aren't what makes anything approachable. Its the gameplay. And the fact that ksp2 runs like garbage on a big chunk of consumer hardware destroys any idea of 'approachability'.
Yay, he's back! No wonder this video took so long if the mission duration is literally 2.6 years :D
By the way: Merry Christmas and a happy new year to everyone reading this comment.
Same to you! 🎄
You too buddy!
Thank you mate!
As to you my friend
With traditional engines (he used a fusion engine for the main ship) this same mission would take around 17 years to complete. 8 years one way from Earth to Saturn and 8 years back
7:43 it looks like that scene from interstellar. Epic work.
This is one of the most well thought out, designed, and executed missions I’ve ever seen in KSP. Congrats!
ruclips.net/video/ToYHqgB2Oqg/видео.html
You may like this one then! This mission actually visits every major moon of Saturn.
ruclips.net/video/C11uK_SHhcw/видео.html
This has to be the most impressive KSP mission I've ever seen. So elaborate and we'll edited. Well done
This is something that KSP2 will hopefully have in terms of rocketry and parts, absolutely beautiful looking!
UPDATE: looks like KSP 2 will have some futuristic stuff, considering the developer of FFT is on their team, KSP 2 may not come with stuff like this in the base game but mods will definitely bring this and alot more
update 2: ksp 2 sucks
update 3: ksp 2 might come back, for science update is pretty good
update 4: its joever for ksp 2
hopefully
And graphic
@Dũng Papercrafter "would have"
@@ArcXDZ if they follow through with their promises unlike every other game
@@idkanymore6897 huh I don't remember writing this comment but yeah, I'm optimistic that KSP2 will be one of the best simulators yet
Fun fact: Titan is the second most habitable body in the solar system. This is, for the most part, because the atmospheric pressure on Titan is so high that you wouldn't need a full space suit to take a walk on its surface, though you should pack your best winter clothes, as the average surface temperature comes in at around -182°C, and you'd still need an oxygen mask to breathe on Titan, as its atmosphere is not breathable to humans. However, due to the high surface pressure, you would not need a pressure suit to breathe there, provided the oxygen mask outputs the right pressure.
it would be too pressurized
@@222cubing8 The pressure in and off itself would not be a problem. What is important for breathing is that
1: You get a certain pressure of oxygen, and
2: You get a certain percentage of it past some amount of pressure
While our lungs are not made for 1.4 atmospheres, if you do the math, it does work out.
Actually, Venus is more habitable in the upper atmosphere where you would only need and oxygen mask and a plastic suit for acid protection, assuming you are standing on a floating vessel
How would you not need a space suit at -182?
@@TheDennys21 Well, while you probably would need a suit that covers your full body and has active heating to not freeze to death after more than a few minutes, you wouldn't need a full on space suit. The reason you need one on the Moon is that the Moon is in a vacuum. This makes it impossible for you to breathe, even if you have an oxygen mask, because the pressure difference is too big. Your lungs couldn't move the air around, even if there was enough of it for you to breathe, because the pressure difference between the inside of your lung and the outside of your chest would be too big. However, Titan's atmosphere is dense enough that, provided you had an oxygen mask designed for the enviornment, you very much could breathe there, so you wouldn't need a full on pressure suit. Furthermore, any coverings over your face you would need would mostly be to prevent frostbite from liquid hydrocarbon (which, by the way, it rains on Titan), but the atmosphere itself doesn't contain any irritating gases, so you could do without for some time if you had to.
every christmas he gives us presents, petition for nessus to be the new santa claus
man you are criminally underrated. This is some fantastic film making, your projects are so well edited and your style of presentation is incredible.
love your content, keep it up mate.
If you zoom enough, you can see the Endurance arriving at saturn too
I always loved that scene from interstellar
@@will2brown50 It made you feel small and insignificant
where an when
When?
@@lucalis032 it’s a joke, and if they left at the same time the endurance would have arrived like 8 months earlier and gone through the wormhole already, because the journey to Saturn was 22 months long, so a little under 2 years, while the trip in the video took 2.6 years
Edit: actually nvm I now see the entire mission including the return lasted 2.6 years, so they would have arrived way before the endurance
That centrifuge deployment was beautiful, almost organic...
I'm still so amazed what people can get done in kerbal. One of the greatest games of all time.
The talent of the modding community especially is just jaw dropping, some of the amazing things they make possible is awe-inspiring
Never thought I needed a venture star strapped to the top of a starship booster until now. Great work!
A VentureStar lifting off from the surface of Titan carried on a gigantic balloon...
Wow! Finally got the time to sit down and watch after Christmas madness. What a great follow-up to your previous video. Some thoughts:
-I love the VentureStar-esque crew launch vehicle. Making it compatible with both Earth and Titan launch is an elegant solution.
-So cool to see the inflatable-headshield interstage, blunt body upper stage reentry vehicle concept. The ITS-inspired(?) booster is neat too.
-300 days to Saturn: wow. Ain't fusion fun!
-A helicopter rover is exactly the right kind of madness that only a Titan mission can make people come up with. Such an alien-looking design.
-The balloon-launched Titan ascent was a similar moment. Anything is possible on Titan it seems lol
-I also laughed at the presentation of the Enceladus mission. After a 4 month stay in comparative luxury on possibly the most fun and interesting body in the solar system, I'm sure I wouldn't be too broken up about "just" taking a quick flags-and-footprints jaunt like that.
I don't know to what extent you head-cannon this stuff, or if it's based on real concepts/research like the Jupiter mission was, but I wanted to ask- do you envision this architecture as doing the first crewed missions to Saturn, or is it a later/more mature design? Do you think this is a late 2000s mission or 2100s? Is the transfer vehicle capable of crew missions to Uranus/Neptune (with modifications), or do you envision starting from a clean slate if you ever pursue missions like those?
Thanks for the wonderful content. Hope to see more from you in the future.
Probably early 2100s. But by then there would be sufficient infrastructure in the outer solar system so something like this could be used to transfer heavier payloads to anywhere in the solar system.
Thanks for your thoughts! There was definitely some head-cannon involved in making this, it would be pretty dumb to land on such an interesting moon like Enceladus and just plant a flag, just imagine another month of science on the surface :D The main technological hurdles are obviously the engine and fusion fuel storage, I'm certainly not a qualified person to talk about this but I would guess a mission like this is at least 100 years in the future (the HOPE study also proposed a fusion option using magnetized target fusion with similar performance to the engine in this video). I do hope we don't have to wait 100 years to see humans at Saturn, a mission with less payload (maybe only landing on Enceladus) would certainly be possible with the technology from my last video. Since the spacecraft itself comes back to Earth in one piece and the transfer time is only one year, I could see this as the beginning of regular missions to Saturn to build a larger colony, maybe even with people living permanently on Titan.
@@NessusKSP Assuming SpaceX starts sending people to Mars in 2031 (relatively conservative but a little optimistic too), and Starship launch cost gets down to low single digit millions (possible even without rapid reusability (although I think they will achieve that eventually within the next 5-10 years), just have to have a large fleet of fully reusable rockets), I think we will see an unprecedented growth of the "space economy". Assuming this happens, its reasonable to imagine there could be a decently sized colony at Mars by 2050 (anywhere between tens of thousands to around a hundred thousand people possibly). Once you have a colony at Mars with tens of thousands of people, you could go from there to Ceres and from Ceres to Jupiter and so on. That kind of development would probably put any first humans to Saturn sometime in the 2070s-2090s I imagine. Another way of getting to Saturn potentially much sooner in the future is if plasma magnet sails are used, which could be feasible if the launch costs lower enough that testing them by non-government/non-profit groups becomes feasible. In that case I think people could go to Saturn by the 2050s.
@@fork9001 NTR Isp is inversely proportional to molar mass after decomposition. LCH4 decomposes to HCx radicals and hydrogen/protons at NTR temperatures so you get 60-80% of LH2 performance without the retarded headaches that come along with LH2 handling.
I wouldn’t consider Titan to be the most interesting and fun body, that would be earth. Titan would be next though.
**NASA engineers and mission planners furiously taking notes in background**
Some of these technologies are only theoretically possible, so don't get your hopes up.
@@yesseru Same was true of rockets. Don't be a naysayer. People declaring what's impossible should step aside from the people making it work.
@@johnsteiner3417 That's exactly my point, they were theoretical, but now they are standard and have been improved upon for years tot he point where we can't imagine a world without them.
@@yesseru But for congress it could've happened in the 1990s. Look up Skylon by a UK company, Reaction Engines.
Funny thing is, most of the issues preventing us from actually doing this is budgetary, the technology is basically there already, we just don't have the money to actually do it.
This is one of the coolest KSP videos I've seen. 2.6 years with near(ish) future tech, really awesome to see a realistic Saturn mission play out
Hnestly this was astounding. The sound, the scope and scale, the planning, everything. Its otherworldly yet so familiar.
Absolutely astonishing. I really, reallllllly like the immense attention to detail and cinematicness while retaining the hard logistics of the mission. I probably should go pick up my jaw from the basement...
Oh look! A rover! So weird solar panels...
*Rover starts flying*
mission control: what the fu-
This has to be one of the coolest KSP videos I've watched in a while. Well done!
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Fantastic. Your execution of streamlined designs, parts, and modularity would make an actual NASA project manager proud. Now that you have that BEAST in orbit, you can use it for more and more missions!
absolutely love the shot at 16:08 of this massive thing just being gracefully lifted up by a balloon
I’m pretty sure it’s unrealistic. Titan has a dense atmosphere and lower gravity than Earth but still this balloon doesn’t look nearly voluminous enough to displace several tons of atmosphere (especially to rise up to 60km).
You would be surprised how little it can take, I designed a 200ish gram “boat” out of a single sheet of tinfoil and it could carry up to 1.299 kilos
@@Mike-oz4cv Bro, this is a sixth the gravity and 1.5x the atmosphere. That balloon is certainly enough.
@@40watt53 Good point, does this mean you need like 9 times less balloon volume? That’s still only a factor of 2.1 for the balloon diameter thanks to the square cube law.
When the math is mathing: this comment section
Damm I thought the Jupiter Mission you made was the best KSP project I've seen but this is just massive
Well done, can't wait for the Uranus mission
"Considerably bigger scope than [the Jupiter mission]"
Woah. Can't wait to watch! Thanks for the upload.
Saturn is gorgeous, and you made something almost prettier, not to mention the detail and believability of everything just from the sheer confidence and care put into presenting it.
Wow. Just. WOW! I got KSP for Christmas last year, and have fallen in love with the immensely prosperous opportunities the game presents the playerbase. This is a shinning example of what can be accomplished. Not only is the gameplay beyond anything I could dream of making, but it is seamlessly edited and was a delight to watch. Keep up the amazing work, and I hope Nasa, SpaceX, Firefly, or some other space organization hires you. Keep up the good work!
yes
He doesn’t own ksp 😂😂😂
@@pumpkinh3d286 wat?
Ksp is absolutely meaningless if you're trying to become an actual aerospace engineer or something in the rocket science field. Sorry to break it to you. I was a very good ksp player, went to uni for aerospace engineering and flunked out. Never went to a party, never once drank or did drugs, I studied more than anyone in my hall (no seriously, I studied like 5 hours a day), got a tutor for calculus, but I was a terrible test taker and could not get good grades no matter what.
@@bailey2517 Dude, you arent supposed to take it literally. You would have to be an idiot if you think that a video game can get you a job at NASA lmao. This just seems like an excuse to target your vent at someone else.
Loved the fantasy parts like a fusion engine and a working Starship heavy booster
Absolutely beautifully made. The Craft, the mission, the visuals... It felt Zen and Epic at the same time. I already knew you were a great modder, but watching your videos kind of makes me doubt you're a real person. How can you be this good at everything :D
Happy Holidays o/
This was like watching a movie! Truly one of the greatest ksp videos I’ve ever seen
This is exactly what i want to see possible stock in KSP 2, and I love that realistic skybox!
Amazing! Well done! Bravo! As someone who considers Titan my “sweetheart” among the terrestrial bodies, I am absolutely in love with this video! Delighted to see that you’ve incorporated a lifting body design for the descent onto Titan, I’ve been raving about that for some time now! What really amazed be here was the fast paced ground station construction. It had a sort of simple yet complex elegance to it. Like trailer homes in space, such an obvious yet ingenious solution. I really have to give you props for that. The 330 day transfer as well, that I hadn’t even considered. I guess the future is brachistochromic, isn’t it? “If I shoot for Saturn and miss, at least I’ll land among the stars” said the wayward colony, zipping out of Earth’s gravity well at hundreds of kilometers per second, strapped to the business end of a fusion reactor. This is an incredible mission you’ve put into cinematic form. Well done!
PS Like everyone else, I have to admit I gave a chuckle at the helicopter rover scene. I’m sure it’d work, one of the many benefits of Titan’s peculiar environment, but it is really reminiscent of the opening dialogue of the Bee Movie, “its wings are too small for its body, yet it flies anyway, because it doesn’t care what you think”!
The long awaited return… Amazing work!
Im crying of joy watching these visuals, my PC is crying of pain trying to render it.
Blown away by all the work that had to go into this. The mods, the great framerate, with the mods. The amazing textures and detail and the great shots to explain the mission. Thank you for spending the time to do this!
This is already one of my all time favorite KSP videos
first i watch the JWST launch, then this masterpiece
a good day for space fans
Give a prize, or an oscar or nobel to this man! Now this is my second favourite sci-fi space movie after interstellar! Amazing job!
Great job! Both mission itself and camera work was stunning! And really cool spacecrafts.
Ur saturn video is impressive
This might be the best KSP video ever made, absolutely fantastic! Thank you for all the effort that went into this, truly!
I hope there is another video coming some day
Wow. I think that’s really cool. I think it’s especially interesting how the secondary stage could be recovered and how the first stage looked a lot like it’s from a SpaceX rocket.
Idk why, but that stubby helicopter/rover taking off and slowly doing camera fly-bys had me busting out laughing. KSP can take one of the most serious scientific subjects of space exploration and add just a hair of goofy elements, and that's why I LOVE this game.
This is really impressive! Far Future tech, let alone Near Future tech is so hard to work with, especially considering you’re doing this on RO/RSS! Well done!
Love the Shuttle inspired S turns. Totally not necessary but great bringing that bit of history into the re-entry sequence.
Amazing! I would go as far as to say I’m even more impressed by the editing than the gameplay itself. But even that was just phenomenal. It brought a smile to my face when the little helirover lifted off the ground along with On the Beautiful Blue Danube. Great video!
This is the most well planned, elaborate, perfectly designed mission i've ever seen on KSP, good job mate.
This channel is the very definition of QUALITY over QUANTITY
Post or not your vids are incredible and I hope your doing well. Merry Christmas!
This would be the coolest mission ever if it were to be done in real life!
I un-liked it... just so I could like it again :) My gosh that was an extremely well thought out and executed mission! I've never seen anything quite on this level before. All of the sequences were very well recorded and put together too. I especially enjoyed the balloon ascent... that caught me so off guard and definitely surprised me. Kudos to you.
Absolutely wonderful. I could totally see this as CGI for a professional hard sci-fi show.
У меня нет слов, дух захватывает от увиденного.
Храни тебя Господь!
Да уж , классный мультик !)
This absolutely exceeded my expectations ^-^ I hope you do more
Really creative using wind turbines for energy, since solar panels would definitely not work
Thank you so much for including all the mods you've used. This video was gorgeous.
Those RUclipsrs upload very rarely (like 2 times a year)
But their content is very good
I might steal some of the general starship-like LV configurations from you for later :P
Amazing!!! A simple 'Like' could not justify the appreciation I have for the amount of efforts that not only went into creating the vehicles and conducting the mission, but to also create an amazing video from the captured footage is absolutely Above and Beyond. Great Job
Insane design and cinematography, good job !!!
It's amazing how the community is able to push OG KSP to the level Squad can't even dream of. But at the same time I would imagine the immense amount of time it takes to achieve this level of visual quality and structral stability (for the craft) via modding.
*_FOR SCIENCE!!_*
If this mission were to happen in real life, I couldn’t even imagine how much money it would cost to make and how long it would take for that whole space station to be made and then how long it would take to get to Saturn and come back!
Probably the cost of the useless invasians of Afghanistan and Iraq.
@@albertvanderheiden7419 Not if they used starships and designed the vehicle to be as cheap as possible. But we all know the only way that'd be possible if SpaceX was leading it, at least based on the current state of NASA.
@@therealist3495 In the current state of NASA and Congress's interests this mission would never even leave the pen that would be used to draw on the drawing board
the design of the spacecraft is just WOAW, i'm fascinated
This is so epic! i'm watching it 5 times and still it's so cool :)
The transition at 1:25 is just beautiful. No cuts, and the music lines up perfectly! The mission is beautifully made as well
Total work of art, the whole thing. The best mods I think I've seen too.
It is just genius! I love this film, I would watch more of this kind of films. Beautiful editing, nice execution of the mission, well prepared. Please, make more video like this. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year as well!
Eu tenho KSP, mas parece que tenho um jogo completamente diferente desse aí da tela, me sinto jogando a versão infantil perto dessa magnificência mostrada no vídeo. Espetacular, estou sem palavras.
O sentimento é Exatamente o mesmo pra mim. É difícil construir uma máquina capaz de rodar a versão modded desse jogo sem lag e sem consumir todo o RAM.
LOVE! the idea of the trip you put forth. Not sure id trust a balloon to airlift my massive spaceship. But all great concepts. These are the types of minds we need. Imagination.
Damn that's beautifull ! I always wondered how y'all are making those very precise meetings in orbit. Everytime I tried to do a space station by assembling piece by piece in orbit, it went wrong D:
This is the one of the best video i known in the entire youtube. Ah, my favorite.
The X33 on the super heavy booster being a SSTO be like “am I a joke to you”
I’m also wondering what year we’ll have flying rovers in
It wouldn't be an SSTO without an aerospike and certainly not with NTR, but I get what you mean
Man, i'm speechless.. this is SO COOOL TO WATCH. Please make more videos like this one! And keep doing it on KSP 2 when the time comes. PLEASE! PLEASE!
I wrote the comment above when I was just watching the firsts 10 min of the video. Now he is balloooning a shuttle to titan's extratosfere, jesus.... omg. I'm speechless man! haha
A Christmas treat!
THATS WAS THE BEST VODEO I'VE EVER SEEN it was so emotional when the Crew Returns i c actually WAS in Tee Space Ship an i dropped a Tear because of my Family i Meet Alain After 2,9 Years. IWAS LITERALLY THE CREW 🤧😢😌 Thanks für the best Time Offizier my Life!!!!
incredible
Thinking about deep space missions like that terrifies me. You'd better hope your fusion engine doesn't get busted or you're not going home.
The second I saw this was uploaded, I clicked on it. You legitimately make some of the best KSP content I have ever seen. Keep it up!
Great mission, great video - amazing and inspiring. I'm gonna try something similar (once I'm done with all other projects, lol). Couple of lessons learned: no need for individual rovers/carts to transport every single base component - one could save mass by using a single cart and having the components support themselves (then this very same cart could be used to drive the crewed truck around). Also, I'd lift the manned vehicle on its own engines before switching to a balloon, avoiding a potential collision between the wings and ground (and also for roleplay value: one could want to make sure the engines are still working after 4 months in Titan's atmosphere).
wow! a nessus upload during the jwst livestream!
also can you (nessus) please send me your waterfall configs for sstu mod from the last video?
You create the most amazing videos! I have been using some of your old configs you have shared, but I am wondering if there is a possibility you might share your configs and scripts for us plebs? I know you have spent hours upon hours on perfecting them, and it just looks amazing to pull something like this off.
I would also watch you on twitch if you were to stream there ;)
I think you’re one of only two people crazy enough to do something like this
NESSUS, WHERE ARE YOU MAN?
Получил удовольствие от просмотра. Сам отыгрываю много в КСП и восхищен некоторыми инженерными решением из этого видео. Вы большой перфекционист. Спасибо за труд.
Very cool. Your computer must be an absolute beast to run this well with all visual mods and play in 4k. Would love to know how, color me jealous!
Lol my computer with an RTX 3070 TI would explode if I try to run this
Ahh finally someone who pit the mods in the video description. Thx, you don't knyhow much i appreciate it when creators do that. 🙏😊
C'est juste magnifique ! I love KSP
Damn I watched this over 10 times by now and I have no intend to stop
that flying rover killed me
and that titan launch too😆
The perfection and optimization of mission compositment showed this video is literally amazing. Every thought and idea around it, genius.
the movie-like soundtrack makes it more, enrapturing. one of the my favorite video in youtube.
It will be possible in real life if every country in the world collaborates and invests in such projects rather than nuclear weapons development.
Non-specific space agency: How do we get things into orbit.
Random guy: Strap a super heavy onto everything, duh.
In all seriousness great job!
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Honestly the music makes the perfect combination with the scenes from the video, you deserve more than that my ksp friend!
That recoverable second stage was beautiful.