France to sue teen for falsely accusing head teacher in headscarf row | BBC News
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- Опубликовано: 27 мар 2024
- France's Prime Minister Gabriel Attal has said a teenage girl will be sued by the state for falsely accusing her headteacher of striking her in a heated exchange over her wearing an Islamic head-covering.
The head teacher insisted that the pupil remove her head-covering inside the school, in accordance with French law.
He resigned after death threats circulated on social media.
The Islamist threat to French schools is taken extremely seriously since the murder of two teachers.
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All false acusers need to be held acountable.
Your ex still causing you trouble?
except women
It wasn't proven that it's false. There isn't evidence so it's her words against his. It's victim blaming.
@@DarkCreed86No wonder you have your neighbours hair.
@@Planet_Xplorer Not proven false? LOL. The burden of proof falls on those who make the claim.
Quite a few years ago, here in Australia, a Muslim woman, in full burka, was pulled over by a police officer for a random breath test. He asked her to lift her head gear so he could ID her with her photo and she went on to cry " rape". It went to court, this woman had her extended family outside the court abusing the police, only to leave with their tails between their legs when video evidence, from the police vehicle, proved her wrong. She was charged with making false allegations. These people think they are above the law and somehow think their religion can save them from their wrong doings.
The moral to the story is not to allow Muslims to reside in your country. Once they get a stronghold on govt they'll want Sharia.
😂😂😂all western countries teaches India about secularism……now all western countries feeling the pressure on one religion…..India is facing this issue very long time……in elections they always support far left to destroy countries culture….. so wait for it….
I remember that incident
Lucky he captured everything on his small camera
Some migrants are miserable in their old country and they continue being miserable here in Australia
Well, according to the BBC, Islam should save them. According to other European countries it can't!
Because in order for Islam to dominate ,the ends justifies the means
Amazing how the BBC recognises the Islamist threat to French schools but does not recognise the threat to the British way of life.
BBC is doing the same for India too..biased journalism
Muslims doesn't work in uk...they live in uk unemployment benefits.....only work for Muslim people is reproduction.....change demographics....bbc will hold torch too in support of Muslim 😂😂
@@sumanachakravarty2004 ...and journalism in India is totally unbiased right? lmao Every regime is running it's own agenda and yours is no different.
They feel BRITISH is heaven and already Surrendered
Spot on
This is not a headscarf row. This is a false accusation row.
Tell that to the girl.
@@derekferguson2328 Don't get me wrong, I fully support France in this court case. But the headline of this video is a bit misleading. That's all.
@@CuriousCyclistI think it's the headscarf incident followed by DEATH THREATS that is more relevant than false accusations in this case.
Using the scarf.. i.e.her religion to score political points for Islam
What is a row
I think France has to take false accusations of this sort very seriously and they are right to sue. They need to lock people up for making death threats to teachers as well.
If she was a Christian, then it wouldn’t matter. The problem is Islam and they’re going to sue her instead, why not sue Islam?
@@Penny-mk7fv Because simply a Christian doesnt react this way.
@@Penny-mk7fv Christians are not allowed to show the cross in France's public schools.
@@Penny-mk7fv You're mistaken when you think this is an "anti-islam thing".
Instead, it is a Secularism thing. So wearing things that indicate Christian beliefs will, and are treated the same way as Muslims beliefs; they will be asked and told to keep their personal beliefs at home, and not in the public school system.
The same would go for any other religious items.
Probably including mock-religious items, like wearing a pasta-strainer on your head. :p
@@samnous2002 yes, but Christians are going around beheading people and screaming their heads off in the process. The core issue is Islam should be sued
Having lived and worked in a Muslim country I will say only this… don’t give Islam an inch.
As one living in a "evangelical christian" centric country (America) Don't give those religious nuts an inch either. but here we are Evangelical Sharia laws all over the USA.
Exactly!!🙏🇬🇧
oh my god, did they do something to you? Or they've always been like that?
Colonialist
Ok Western Terrorist
The victim card has been activated
I once witnessed a hit and run ,a child was knocked off her father's bike by two morrocan boys in another car,the police invited me into the wagon to take my statement Andi saw boys outside the car making throat cutting gestures at me.I have always been tolerant of Islam,but the evidence against them is piled high to the sky.
The thing is these people only respect extreme force so you show them extreme force and you’ll get the respect they demand
You can’t be tolerant of intolerant people and expect them to change for the better. They will never change.
ISLAM IS A CURSE to any peaceful religion. we Indians are suffering every day cause of islamic brutality. Here they will convert hindu girls under false identity and marry them. and if girls resist. they will kill them.
Finally Europeans are opening their eyes towards horrors of Islam and How they play victim card
They are raised in hatred for non believers. They eat, breathe, in that mindset. Westerners don't realize how serious it is and the level of explicit hate they grow up in. We tend to imagine what we want to imagine about how it goes but the truth is , most never make any effort to actualy listen and pay attention to what the reality is. "it is a tiny minority" no , this is just some magical spell for westerners, it is just not true.
She needs a prison sentence. Everyone who threatened him also needs a prison sentence.
Unfortunately not going to happen
That’s silly. She is a child. The suit is good enough. But the law is dumb and inciting folks, it’s targeting for sure, and anti freedom
If muslims do not like adhere to France rules they should leave, law is for all religion
Why should they leave? Should white, French convert Muslims leave their indigneous lane. I think not, Mr Bharat.
@@cyriuxx5750 then converted should adhere should not follow extremism.
@@cyriuxx5750 you are no longer french if you decide to promote the muslim ideology of violence,intolerance,inability to coexist, and vileness.afghnistan and pakistan would be better off
I mean that's what France has told us when they invaded Morocco.. You should leave your country because you are wearing a scarf 😅
@@muruganr4517In what world is covering your head extremism?
All who accuse falsely should be prosecuted and jailed.
And, where appropriate, deported
This girl provoked death threats against the head teacher through her lies. She needs to be held accountable, the same as her community.
This ruined a Teachers career..he was threatened and falsely accused of a serious allegations...she should be deported and banned from living in France.
In the past there was a case where the Muslim students B headed the teacher, so horrific!!
@@keithtan6210More then once
by the way, a person checking on teens clothing is already not a teacher. there are other names for that and they need medical help.
@@zorton7461 you, sir, speak nonsense
@@zorton7461The student need to be in a madarsa not in school.
meanwhile we totally abandoned the teacher in Batley, who did NOTHING wrong, and now lives in hiding and in fear with his wife and family.
What happened?
The UK is over. I just watched a video where a Muslim attacks a guy and the British cops arrest the victim.
@@rk-kb5rw The teacher taught about the events of Charlie Hebdo and received death threats. Lost his job, had to go into hiding, state ignores him.
Yes the difference between the UK and France
@@rk-kb5rw my reply keeps being deleted. use a search engine for teacher and batley
10 years in prison should fix her attitude.
No...... deportation! Period. She must be sent back with all her family back where they came from.
Remember, similar situations have happened before and cost innocent teachers their lives.😢
The people making threats need to be tracked down and charged.
They will be. I believe that arrests have already been made.
absolutely!
The reality is many were also coming from outside the country.
And deported.
Good and she needs to go to jail. I'm sick.of this. That poor teacher.
Sick? Go see a doctor
@@iq-ride9329Really. See a doctor before it's too late . . . *Quran 65:1, 4* "When divorcing women, know their waiting period. For women past the age of menstruation, their waiting period is 3 months - and those who have _NOT_ menstruated yet as well.
*Sahih al-Bukhari vol 5 bk 58:236* “Allah's Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) married Aisha when she was a girl of 6 years of age, and he consummated that marriage when she was 9 years old”
*Sahih al-Bukhari vol 7 bk 62 nr 64* “Allah's Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) married her when she was 6 years old and he consummated his marriage when she was 9 years old”
@@iq-ride9329It's you that needs to do that mate as you seem to be in sympathy with this whole episode.
@@BritishNaturalist-vb8hj He kisses stones
kids don't go to jail but parents will be held liable if the girl is found guilty, better so they'll be getting a visit from children's protective services.
Good on you France, at least you have the spine to stand up to these peacefuls
the french are just perverts thats all!!
Absolutely spot on. It's a shame the Headteacher had to leave, however at least the government has the b*lls to do something about it.
No one stood up for the Batley School Teacher in the UK.
the uk is fucked
It is just the West everybody is crying about things but wants to stand up for anything
Yeaaah BBC talk to your country yourself
cos he was a freak!!!
As a Brit it's not natural for me to say this, but bloody good on you, France 👍
I agree. Problems require solutions, and France is being exceptionally modern in their approach.
No offense but they won’t do sh*t. In 10years france will be overpopulated by Muslim and there will be nothing they can do
It's easy these days to accuse teachers and stir problems. Imagine the trauma suffered by the Headteacher. His life would be ruined because of a wanton act of malice.
Too late already....
Of course you would say that, people can wear what they want… the western media are trying to spread hate on Islam, it’s all a big plan
I remember in the late 70s, I was in elementary school, i think, in the 5th or 6th grade. There was a girl that wore a scarf, and her family was offended by the USA flag in the class room an as wanted it taken down. Quite a few kids told her they were offended by her scarf she wears. Well, her parents wanted the flag taken down also, so of course, the school board got involved, and she was kicked out of school. Goes to show they have been trying to do irrational things even back then. When they came to America, they took an oath to the American Flag, and there they were discriminating against it.
Send them home...
A religious extremist lying…..you don’t say.
Shocking!🤣
Who is the extremists , the lawmakers forcing women girls what to wear and not wear
@@zainzoala1083the law is same for all, if you don't like it go to Afghanistan.
the law is made by democratically elected members who are funded by French taxpayers. (not religious heads and imams). If you have problems with the law isn't it better to leave for a country that sympathises with your beliefs?
Also I don't see anyone condemning the threats to the teacher. Most of you are silent! The moderate ones hold the body while the extremist takes care of the head...
Islam the religion of peace 😂😂😂😂
@@SaharshJeetSinghWoow Go to Afghanistan and should I say you go to Russia. I didn’t know it was for you or others to tell what a woman can wear and can’t wear 😂😂😂
Way to go France👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾.. don't fall for the lies and threats of these lunatics. The rest of Western world should learn from France.
France is an Islamic country though, and they’re blaming the women for her religion‘s barbarism. 🤦
@@Penny-mk7fv France is a Christian country
@@Penny-mk7fv Are you mad? Since when France is a Islamic country ? They are not they a Christian country even through it is secular now
@@ileanaacacostaacosta1813 if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it’s a duck. The French are killing their teachers no different than Islamic countries 🤷
@@Penny-mk7fvare u dumb?
Religion of peace, making false accusations during Ramadan. 🤯
allowed and encouraged to lie to non believers any time of the year. It's in the book. Don't ever expect anything loyal, true , generous , it's not christianity.
Deport if necessary.
What is it to deport when they are for a lot of them French citizens from birth and grew up there
And for a big chunk from French mothers ?
Best comment. Agree.
one of the teachers killed a few years ago was also falsely accused, that is not the first time this has happened.
WHY ARE WESTERN COUNTRIES BENDING OVER BACKWARDS FOR OTHER RELIGIONS CULTURE, IF THESE IMMIGRANTS DONT LIKE THE WEST THEY MUST GO BACK O WHERE THEY COME FROM YOU DONT GO INTO SOMEONE ELSE HOUSE AND CHANGE THE WAY PEOPLE LIVE THERE
Beauty of islam
Of course there were death threats its the religion of peace
White Christian Hitler
🇮🇱👍
It's rent free in your mind
I called their religion a terrorist camp on Instagram once, and not only were my dms full of the "Peaceful" people telling me they'll murder me and murder my family , but they all reported my account for abuse...
Instagram then permanently banned my account on the claim that I was rallying violence against people...
Very interesting, considering I was the one getting the death threats...
So Christianity is a religion of peace as well lol
If u don't want to follow the country laws ..get out!!!
What a menace to the entire world!
Sueing someone doesn't help society, but deporting them does
But it is the first step. This Muslim girl and her family should be put on surveillance and one more break of French law must be deported and blacklisted.
Don’t give these evil cults an inch.
🤔 I find it very insulting that when non-Muslim women go to an Islamic country, they have to dress accordingly with local clothing, head scarves and custom as a sign of respect to that culture. But when Muslims come to Western countries, no such mutual consideration is given. *If Muslims want to practice religion in a secular society then do so on their private time in their own social setting, not in public institutions and spaces.*
Sorry but no, we've got christians here you know, and they wear whatever they want.
@@ToqaTaha-pv8dw : And where is that?
@@pohanahawaii Egypt, you can even Google it, we've got hundreds of churches, I've got one near me actually and lots of Christians in my neighborhood.
@@pohanahawaii and let's not forget Lebanon, Tunisia, Morocco, Algeria, Jordon, even Palestine itself, UAE of course
@@pohanahawaii Even Saudi Arabia was building a church as far as I remember which is - not surprisingly - something I detest, Saudi Arabia is like Vatican to us but what can we do about it.
Are you noticing a pattern with these people, BBC???
That'y what happens if you let those people into your country!
Good. She needs to be sued!!
I have question for you what if that was your daughter and she was harassed by a Muslim teacher in class room would you believe her? Or ask for evidence
She should be in jail at least
Up to 20 year
@@user-nr1rw4jt5yHarassed? She was asked to take off her headscarf according to law. And she is only wearing it out of religious chauvinism in any case.
@@ankit-sq6ohat least up to?
DIFFERENT COUNTRIES have DIFFERENT LAWS, therefore people that go to OTHER COUNTRIES should adapt to the LAWS of the OTHER COUNTRY, this is what called INTEGRATION, if said person (without looking at ethnicity, religion or anything else that differentiates us people) doesnt ADAPT to the LAWS of the OTHER country than THEY SHOULD BE PUNISHED @@user-nr1rw4jt5y
Imagine if that was a Christian girl and the teacher received death threats. You, BBC, would be calling it ‘far right extremism’. Double standards comes to mind.
No they wouldn't. They would call it what it is...Christian Extremism.
It’s happening all the time Christian Nationalists are accusing teachers and librarians of horrible things just to rile people up and scare them into giving up their rights
French citizens, empower yourselves to reclaim control of your country.
Please take your country back. Fight for it.
If any scholar refuses to follow the rules of the learning institution then they must be suspended and deported to country of birth or parents birth
Good for France. People must obey the laws of countries they are guests in. They are in France, not Afghanistan.
Muslim population been living in France for ever and a day. If Islam is foreign to France, then, so is Christianity and Judaism
@@iq-ride9329Fairy tales.
@@iq-ride9329keep posting the same nonsense 😂😂😂
Why would a french girl be in Afganistan other than her own country 💀
@@loredanatagliaferri5339 keep posting the same nonsense
Offended by everything , ashamed of nothing.
They are the same everywhere.
Always
Yes
Agree 👍
That's absolutely correct!
Disgusting behavior by the girl.....lets hope she learns a leason on court
They won't live by French laws in France; but demand others live up to their laws.
Back in her country she wouldn't even be allowed to goto school 😅
I agree. Deport.
Because Western women are paragons of virtue...
Yes she should proudly follow sharia also its a gift of islam
@@StimParavane At least western women can go to school
@@StimParavane If you don't like the West, keep living in your shitty ass country and don't you dare touch anything that we have acomplished in our country. (As a western woman :) )
A religious person acting violently? What a surprise
A religion that promotes violence does not see right or wrong.
Which religion? The Islamic?
Say the religion.
Only one openly
@@fragrantbloomIslam
These people are so so evil
BBC must be heartbroken having to report this. They avoided telling you one of the murdered teachers was also falsely accused, unless I missed it
France has the right approach. In the Uk we prefer to sheepishly back down from every confrontation like this.
Wish all European countries would be like France and stop being bullied by these terrorists! Bravo France.
@@blackgirlsrock264 Or send them back
@@blackgirlsrock264 Its like how your grandmother may wear one when the weather is cold. I don't see why its such a huge problem for France to ban the headscarf. Hijab? okay, but headscarf? what the hell is the big deal, please explain.
a hijab is religious, just wear a hat if its cold. if the law stats you CAN'T, move country. I'm fine with hijabs in england but if your country has other rules just follow em
Well, the French have a more developed 'shine' in many ways. It's easy to take notes and tell people about it, problem solved! Still, uh, I like my British friends, even the Scots and Irish. Very colorful if you ask me. Sheep you say...... some, always. Go meet some shepherds instead then, you'll miss the sheep.
We could learn from this in the UK, we still have a teacher living in hiding because of Islamist death threats, who has had absolutely no help from our useless government!!!!!
Same here in Canada. They can say anything but we are not allowed. Double standards.
Why banning modesty clothing at first place ..?? France is so bizzare .... and extreme ...
@@kebeleteeek4227you can leave if you don't like the law
@@94503 France = falsehood ... and muslims don't have the attitude "leave it if you think it's false" ...
@@kebeleteeek4227 France is by their laws a Secular Country. NO displays of any religion are permitted in public, government run institutions (eg government offices, courts, hospitals, schools, army). No Christian crosses, no Sikh turbans etc. You say 'Modesty Wear', and indeed it may be modest. But the headscarfs worn by the three girls, at a French public school, are only affiliated with the Muslim faith. Therefore, against the Law (2004).
Just don’t let them in…
Same thing happened in India, Bangladesh. False accusations, not following school dress code and then death threats! The religion of peace for you
Why don't they just go to Islamic schools which will allow Islamic costume etc.... why expect all the schools to bend the rules for her? Yes she should be sued. The teacher should also sue her for slander and spreading misinformation on the internet to incite hatred and claim damages against her.
Good
The state should sue her/her family
She has ruined this man's life and she should be held responsible for her false allegations
France has to now pay for their mistakes...........
Playing the victim card gets you a trip to the court
poor teachers have to face these extremist radicals while teaching and maintaining a safe environment.
Calm down 😂
@@DarkCreed86two people were litteraly killed because of this in the last 5 years.
Thats more or less incitement of murder in my eyes
@@DarkCreed86no ne is true many teachers are sacred to speak against students, for exemple many biology teachers are not willing to speak about evolution or sexual matters due to extremism in some schools. Moreover many teachers have been killed because they dared to challenge the views of a more and more radicalised ppl !!
@@DarkCreed86The man had to lose his livelihood because of death threats. Death threats that became reality for other teachers. What is there to be calm about?
And then they complain there’s not enough teachers. I wonder why?
Good for France. Accusations like this can end a persons career, in this case even their life. 😮🇬🇧🌈♥️🙏
Accusation coming out from teens? Those teens' lives might get ruined
@@245xanxuslet’s hope so.
@@245xanxusOh my. She should escape from awful France . . . and seek asylum in Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan or Saudi Arabia, where she'll be given a new lease on life.
@@user-4m9-dr80h4 the irony is, going to all those places(except Afghanistan) is a better option. Atleast there she won't be treated as a third class citizen infact she would be able to eat what she wants and wear what she likes which, is odd since this freedom is supposed to be linked to developed countries like France yet, she is not allowed to eat halal food anymore in France and she's not allowed to wear veil.
@@245xanxus but they are not french anyway, so jist respect their rules.
False accusers should be charged ? This should not be controversial at all. Lie and report a made up crime then serve the punishment your victim could have gotten. Simple fix to keep liars in check - consequences! Shocking concept I know but way back in the 2000s consequences helped deter idiots
Double jail time for false allegation accusers
They should be PROSECUTING her, not merely suing her.
Agreed. There should be jail time for this
theres likely no law for this so you can't prosecute anything. trial is the best option because it will set a precedent to draft a new law from. think before posting.
Deporting her.
@@twichytail If they wanted to prosecute her, I'm sure they could find something. The French equivalent of incitement to violence. The problem isn't the law but the will. And by your own admission, you don't actually know - you're just assuming. So perhaps you should take your own advice and not lecture others on whether they should post or not.
@@regolith1350 incitement to violence would imply she acted with the intent to provoke others into action, which proves problematic as to how do you prove she intended for the teacher to get death threats? its so much easier to just sue. you literally have no idea what you are saying.
Don't back down, keep your laws in place and don't let the Islamic people tell you how to run your schools, country etc. They murdered two Parisian Citizens, hold them accountable, give those families the justice that should have never been needed. Prime Minister do your duty to your citizens and your Country.
Automatic deportation for such an act.
Lying that someone has hit you when they have not is very wrong. The teacher would have been killed for something that he didn't do.
(No corroborating proof and going to court, ie. it’s word against word so we don’t know if it was a lie or not)
They still might! It's about the headscarf!
It's known as taqqiyah
@@JT_Gamble there were two other girls with her who apparently did not corroborate her story
@@fireworxz When in Rome!
Poor teacher . We need teachers .
Was he really a teacher or hijab police 🤣🤣🤣
@@zainzoala1083We should all stop Islam. It is cancer..
@@zainzoala1083 The law of the land says no outward display of religious practice on government grounds............you want to come to our countries...you follow our laws. Why leave your countries in the first place then?
Wow… the Islamic girl is so honest!
Islam has destroyed our Beautiful Country Iran‼️
Free Iran from tyranny barbaric regime ✌️✌️
There should be witness testimony...if the teacher lied, he or she should be fired...
The teacher did not lie
Just ban the dam thing and be done with it
It begins with a headscarf and concludes with adherence to Sharia law.
Spot on! Give them an inch , and they will 'take' a mile.
Thankfully everyone now appears to have woken up to what they're all about.
@@S-North didnt they say that about feminists in the 60s? now women dont have to fear being fired for not pleasuring their boss...
Islam don't like us....
it begins with checking on headscarf, then checking on their underwear. what a immoral country and immoral people supporting it
But now we have to contend with the occasional feminazi. Too much privelege leads to a power trip and abuse, becoming the same type of powerful evil it once sought to defeat. @@OZzo1
Keep this a thing. If you make false accusations with no proof you should receive twice the punishment.
Well, the death threats really twisted this a bit. "False accusations"... I think the French are carefully cutting through the BS here. Religion can be volatile, and academia is the battleground. They will not be slacking off, I assure you. The French are quite protective of what they have built.
This is the level we have sunk to, death threats to teachers.
Not only sue,, deport them..
Good for France. Time to make them toe the line and make them accountable.
Well said!💯
😂😂😂 Who is them ???
@@zainzoala1083 , if you don’t know you are either one of them, or have been living under a rock on Pluto……..
White people during covid:
The elites are forcing us to do stuff - this is fascism and communism!
Also whites when it comes to little hijbai girls:
YEHHH THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD TELL YOU WHAT TO DO!
@@zainzoala1083 People who worship a false prophet.
Religion of peace 🙄
Yep religion of peace unlike u hate preacher
@@goldfinga786able 🇮🇱👍
@@goldfinga786ablehow are death threats part of a religion of peace?
@@goldfinga786able please don't reproduce
@@goldfinga786able So you're saying the Paper-and-Ink Idols are BS? We believe you.
*Quran 9:29* "Fight against those who do not believe in Allāh or in the Last Day."
*Quran 8:12* "I shall cast t____r into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike them upon the necks and strike off every fingertip of them."
*Quran 9:111* “Allah has indeed purchased from the believers their lives and wealth in exchange for Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah and k__ or be k____.”
*Quran 9:123* “Believers! Fight against the disbelievers who are near to you; and let them find harshness in you. Know that Allah is with the God-fearing. O ye who believe!”
*Quran 47:4* “So when you meet those who disbelieve, strike their necks until, when you have inflicted slau _______ upon them, then secure their bonds, and either confer favor afterwards or ransom them until the war lays down its burdens. That is the command. And those who are k______ in the cause of Allah . . . never will He waste their deeds.”
After they are done with her the teacher should take her to court to, and why is she not in jail
They didn't know the rules prior to attending school?
Most peaceful religion strikes again
Peaceful religion with most liberals. Its like perfect match
Thank you for your racist hatred
@@guff95671) Islam is a religion, not a race. 2) If you like these people so much, you move there and live with them. See how that goes.
@@guff9567how to tell the world you're ignorant/stupid
@@guff9567they choose to be Muslims. They could all become apostates, but they refuse. So they must face criticism like any other ideology.
Ok, I am from Turkey, I say; good for France! If she is so deeply devoted to her slavery-by-choice, she should go to Iran or something. If she doesn't want to enjoy the freedom and a civilized society, then why force her to stay there?
Freedom? You thinking forcing people not to wear an item of clothing is freedom?
@@sugarzblossom8168 Your logic is twisted. Men in islamic countries force women to wear that thing or brain wash them from childhood to submission. With this context of reality, having a ban on such backwards practices cannot be held equal to forcing women to wear them in the first place.
@@7errafirma yes it can be especially since Islam is a religion not an ethnicity and people can be Islam regardless of what their family is.
Regardless of why they wear it they have chosen to.
That's like saying clothes should be banned because society had been brainwashed into thinking nudity is bad.
@@sugarzblossom8168 Your arguments are fallacies. That nudity example is pure false equivalency. You will never admit you're wrong. You'll keep coming back with more fallacies. I explained it perfectly. You are completely ignoring the context of reality.
@@7errafirmacan't admit to being wrong on an opinion. Your logic is speaking for Muslim women
Good on you France.
The parents lied when they signed the school rules so why would the child not follow their example 🙄
The sooner this gets sorted the better.
Days are over for different people if they want their laws they must go where they can live with their laws
Shame the UK can't be more tough on these types of extremist sick people.
Can't even protect your daughters for fear of being called racists. Anyone pointing it out is destroyed.
You know what this type of people are growing in number.. Better you find a place to hide..😂😂😂
@sadmanhafizsiam9604 I don't hide like a 😹. I'll take my savings and life the good life in the equator. 🖕
@sadmanhafizsiam9604 To hide from what exactly I fear nothing. One day, in not the so long distant future, I'll be moving to the equator on a beautiful peaceful island surrounded by nature. It's not just because of Islam it's getting way overpopulated here.......etc. Mr 😪man
Definitely
If this incident happened in the UK, the government will not support the school teacher.
It's becos they think they are untouchable and entitled that they can get away with this. Good on France to take to court
Peaceful community indeed spreading peace....😅
Samuel Paty was decapitated on the street in a Paris suburb in 2020 and Dominique Bernard was killed at his school in Arras five months ago.
That's awful.
😢
Very sad our governments are letting them run rampant in our countries.... They are getting bolder, and bolder.
Peaceful religion which attack teacher
What if ur child was attacked in school by the teacher
You prefer people to be raped?
@@goldfinga786able Then that's outrageous, but allegations should be true and not fake accusation.
@@goldfinga786ableisn't it funny your first thought is implying violence instead of civil resolution 😂.
@@goldfinga786ablethat would be crazy...if it happened
As a species, should we work towards outlawing all religious expression in the public sphere?
Yes
well not everyone worships satan like the french
No, Christianity is the best thing for this world. Never include it with Islam.
You can’t stop them so easily who believes firmly that life starts after death.
As a lifelong agnostic, I have very little time for _any_ organised religion. However, the thing that should be said is that I feel zero threat from any organised religion, bar one. If I were a public figure and publicly castigated Jesus, or Moses, or Krishna, or Buddha, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster, it’s very likely nothing would happen to me. If I publicly slagged off Muhammad, it’s quite likely there’d be a backlash and I’d be watching my back for the rest of my life. _That’s_ the difference. Just ask Salman Rushdie or the Batley teacher still in hiding 3 years after showing a caricature! Imagine living in a society where certain people are so offended by a cartoon, they threaten death to the person who showed it! For some reason, certain prevalent strands of Islam can’t take honest criticism, when it’s just a bunch of manmade ideas like all the rest.
It's built-in into this particular religion, it's a feature not a bug (according to some that practice it), it's not the largest but the loudest that takes over.
I feel the same way as an atheist. Every religion has it's extremists but Islam, at this point in history, has the most violent people in it's grasp and it generally comes from countries that are more backward, with views from Medieval times (e.g. Afghanistan, Iran, Yemen, Somalia). It's just not acceptable that anyone should think they have the right to take someone life, period, let alone over something as nonsensical as made up beings in the sky (supported by handpicked sections of religious text from thousands of years ago). Absurd. Why come to a free, Western country if you wish to practise Medieval-style intolerance and violence?
@@skullsaintdead Yeah, the thing about organised religion is that quite obviously it should be a private matter and not intrude the lives of those of us who find it anathema. Too often, Islam does this. It intrudes. I get that from no other organised religion: just Islam. 👍
@@titteryenot4524To be fair, as a woman (and someone that's bi, though more asexual, with lots of gay friends) Christianity definitely intrudes on my rights (e.g. if you're a woman in the US re: abortion; I'm Australian so it's not as bad) but in terms of terrorism and violence, Islam seems to be the worst of all the religious groups atm (and this changes through history, like in 1500s, you'd probably say Christianity because of Henry VIII and Church of England's break from Rome, and all the killings that took place over that). I 100% agree with your first sentence though, people practicing in their own homes, not oppressing others rights or trying to harass and/or assault, even kill them, is fine, just don't burden others with your faith.
@@skullsaintdead Great points, well made. You’re right about Christianity in certain places (most obviously, the US). I overlooked that. However, the thing with Islam is that I fear its aggressiveness in the sense that if I don’t toe _its_ line, there will be consequences. Quite possibly violent consequences. As I outlined in my OP. Even a damn caricature and certain Muslims are up in arms! It’s ridiculous, notwithstanding I’m aware that representing Muhammad pictorially is forbidden. I don’t care if it’s forbidden. I’m not a Muslim and if I wanted to show a picture of Muhammad, Islam should be able to cope with this. It just comes across as immature and so unsure of itself, in this regard. The literalist thing is deeply off-putting, too. That’s a big difference with much of modern-day Christianity: Muslims, by and large, take their ‘holy’ text quite literally. At least a good bulk of contemporary Christians have ditched the literalist thing when it comes to the Bible. (Leaving aside the US Bible Belt cranks!)
France needs to introduce a law that if a person gained citizenship from application and they then break the law they are exported back to their home country. That will give them all something to think about. She is now spending taxpayers money through her poor behaviour. A liability at large.
Michelle, pas belle. Muslim population been living in France for ever and a day. If Islam is foreign to France, then, so is Christianity and Judaism
also in Usa canada and australia and the rest of the world too. it does not matter how many genarations they have been living in the country for. They should be sent back where they originated from. those landthieves immigrants are the worst human beings
Great idea! 💯 There should be a legal instrument to revoke their citizenship. Break the rules of a country, be deported no matter the offense.
France should not even give citizenship away! Especially to their enemies
something like that almost happened, François Hollande wanted to revoke the French nationality if a person committed a crime but it is most likely illegal to do that so it never happened.
Same thing happens in Pakistan... where muslims accuse non muslims of blasphemy to get those people in trouble. France should punish that girl if proven guilty. Islam should not be "immune" to criticism.
I think the French should consider expelling such people who want to follow Sharia and not French law out of the country
Good. People who live in France but show no respect for its people, culture and laws need to be held to account.
no we do , like France did to OUR cultures , ressources .. ect when they were in our coutries without being invited . the ' held accoutable ' does not work ONE way . NOT anymore . and I am waiting for the day THEY are held accountable for the 500 years of damage they have done .
CyborgZeta, Are you referring to the traditional French people or the immigrants? I can see your comment both ways.
@@lous.1548wow those people are 500 years old? This is 2024.
@@lous.1548like Islamic invasions.... Like Ottoman Empire who forced jews to convert... Like Islamic invaders who destroyed temples in India and raped their women, etc.
The law being enforced at school only since 2023. So, you said people who are already french citizens and have their kids & grandkids should leave?
Good for France they're starting to wake up!
Only because the EU elections are coming up and the RN (Le Pen) are leading the polls quite strongly. This clash of cultures is only going to get worse.
😂 not yet still sleeping
False accusers need to be brought to justice.
Two teachers murdered "gruesomely" more like the religion of peace we are blessed just Charming
Peaceful people spreading peace.
What do you expect from all these incel losers in the game of polygyny?
Good for France, the treatment of teachers lately is horrendous, hopefully this will result in fewer false allegations
Deceitful people claiming the pious high ground are simply the worst.
Glad to know that at least the French have demonstrated that they've got bones to stand up against the bullies, not just the dough as our British political bogmire! 👎👎👎
Omg. Poor teachers.