Uproar in France after school hijab row: French 'laïcité' explained • FRANCE 24 English

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  • Опубликовано: 27 мар 2024
  • Prime Minister Gabriel Attal on Wednesday defended French secularism following the resignation of a Paris school principal who received death threats after asking a student to remove her Muslim veil on the premises. Secularism and religion are hot-button issues in France, which is home to Europe's largest Muslim community. In 2004, authorities banned school children from wearing "signs or outfits by which students ostensibly show a religious affiliation" on the basis of the country's secular laws which are meant to guarantee neutrality in state institutions. FRANCE 24’s Charli James tells us more about French “laïcité”.
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Комментарии • 127

  • @marktwain6609
    @marktwain6609 Месяц назад +114

    We have failed to mention that the poor headmaster received death threats for enforcing a law. How can this be acceptable?

    • @vaibhavsingh1937
      @vaibhavsingh1937 Месяц назад +16

      I think this is acceptable when we talk about peaceful religion😅

    • @elizabethr4107
      @elizabethr4107 Месяц назад +1

      Precisely

    • @maheepsingh1729
      @maheepsingh1729 Месяц назад

      Exactly, its all because of Europe’s hyper secularism

    • @Scidzcopter
      @Scidzcopter Месяц назад +7

      it is not, this is why the gov is suing the teenager that did those threats, and her parents might get all they rights revoked ( included their French passport )

    • @theinngu5560
      @theinngu5560 21 день назад +1

      Anyone making a death threat should be immediately deported. Absolutely unacceptable.

  • @amoghars
    @amoghars Месяц назад +72

    Simple solution. Those who want to wear hijab in France, please exchange them for those who don’t want to wear hijab in Iran.

    • @andin3720
      @andin3720 5 дней назад

      After the exchange France will see an increase in the average IQ and Iran will see a decrease.

  • @CyborgZeta
    @CyborgZeta Месяц назад +89

    As an American, I appreciate France's commitment to secularism. We could use that here.

    • @elizabethr4107
      @elizabethr4107 Месяц назад +5

      Absolutely

    • @DSan-kl2yc
      @DSan-kl2yc Месяц назад

      That's not a commitment to secularism. That has nothing to do with secularism.
      In the US that would be taking away people's rights.
      It's hypocritical of France. This is some stalinist style beliefs.

    • @garciapedro7554
      @garciapedro7554 15 дней назад

      @@DSan-kl2ycwhy is it hypocritical?

  • @vjrdy8397
    @vjrdy8397 Месяц назад +24

    Wherever they are they want their special rights and resort to violence. Not justFrance!

  • @neoflying
    @neoflying Месяц назад +35

    Being an indian . I saw Islamic hypocrisy here regarding head scarf …always follow law of the land .as follow in Islamic rule state ..other wise leave it

    • @DSan-kl2yc
      @DSan-kl2yc Месяц назад

      No effing democracy works by just leaving it when a law is crap.
      People work to get it changed.
      Like telling white abolitionists to leave the country if they don't like black chattle slavery.

    • @OmarOsman98
      @OmarOsman98 5 дней назад

      I’m Muslim but I agree

  • @AchyutChaudhary
    @AchyutChaudhary Месяц назад +22

    I think because of communal tensions like this based on Religions, 🇫🇷France has long been against supporting countries like 🇹🇷Türkiye joining the 🇪🇺EU.

  • @Nidal_Co
    @Nidal_Co Месяц назад +34

    vive la laïcité!

  • @mohammadinthiyaz7422
    @mohammadinthiyaz7422 Месяц назад +28

    I like french secularism bcoz it treats everyone equally . British also adopt this type of law. People with strong religious beliefs should go to religious schools.

    • @ZaydAliKhan
      @ZaydAliKhan Месяц назад

      We will follow our culture at any cost 😊

    • @disdoncable
      @disdoncable Месяц назад +12

      @@ZaydAliKhan That cost will be a one-way air ticket back to Pakistan. I'm very glad you're willing to pay that cost :)

    • @mohammadinthiyaz7422
      @mohammadinthiyaz7422 Месяц назад +7

      ​@@ZaydAliKhan no one stopping you, I think there are religious schools in France and religious freedom guaranteed in French constitution with some restrictions and those are equally applicable all religions.

    • @AuxaneST
      @AuxaneST Месяц назад +8

      @@ZaydAliKhan No problem with that just study online from home for free or sign up to a private religious school. Public schools are secular. End of. Following your culture/enforcing your own religious belief on yourself or insisting on breaking the law and not respecting the freedom of conscience of other minors under the responsibility of the State's education system and their right to a studying environment free from any form of proselytism is not a right but a crime.

    • @ZaydAliKhan
      @ZaydAliKhan Месяц назад

      @@disdoncable Pakistan but i am Lebanese 🤔

  • @suprauro
    @suprauro 25 дней назад +2

    France and Europe has become in a multicultural reality and need strong rules loke this to manage the chaos.

  • @Maliceless100
    @Maliceless100 Месяц назад +16

    WISH America had this fair law. Magic proverbs or Harry Potter books or whatever mythology shouldn't dictate policy. Plus, Muslim school girls could care less about hijabs; they just want approval from religious parents _(and classmates)._

    • @DSan-kl2yc
      @DSan-kl2yc Месяц назад

      It's unfair. You reveal you only like it because of some hatred for Muslims. Which is the most nonsensical thing in the US.

  • @PozoBlue
    @PozoBlue Месяц назад +7

    France24 used to one of my favorite news sources but lately it has become biased and with a bunch of woke American journalists. Do not like.

  • @Axbneht
    @Axbneht Месяц назад +5

    When your tolerance results in non-tolerant violence, make sure to do the right thing

  • @Praveen-zi7fn
    @Praveen-zi7fn Месяц назад +2

    Same everywhere

  • @motherhoodsbeauty9279
    @motherhoodsbeauty9279 Месяц назад +1

    Good luck French! These people would never listen to them

  • @nadim.9571
    @nadim.9571 Месяц назад +10

    Love france from iran

  • @deekang6244
    @deekang6244 26 дней назад +1

    Keep France!

  • @Saqeynjoro
    @Saqeynjoro Месяц назад +22

    Definition of western democracy;

    • @user-fk2fs3hk8w
      @user-fk2fs3hk8w Месяц назад +17

      If you don't like it.... Get out

    • @Vishwajeetvpsingh
      @Vishwajeetvpsingh Месяц назад +11

      Get out if you don’t like it! When I visit Saudi I don’t drink alcohol or eat pork! If you live in Rome live like romans it is as simple as that. If you don’t like French values go to Afghanistan.

    • @AuxaneST
      @AuxaneST Месяц назад +2

      Indeed. Not ironically. BASED.

    • @Saqeynjoro
      @Saqeynjoro Месяц назад

      @@SeaJay_Oceans so stop telling the world that you are the good guys

    • @AuxaneST
      @AuxaneST Месяц назад +6

      @@Saqeynjoro But on this particular matter we definitely are. Other subjects are irrelevant to this debate.

  • @rravisankar3355
    @rravisankar3355 26 дней назад

    There are no religious requirements to violate dress code.

  • @chinaiscommittinggenocidei4924
    @chinaiscommittinggenocidei4924 Месяц назад +13

    Dont like it then leave. 👏

  • @arunpanat8157
    @arunpanat8157 26 дней назад +2

    France should be truly secular. To respect every faith is not the secularism . Secularism means state rules by its own laws and not under any pressure or any sympathy of any religion . Those laws are or must be practical enough and only for the betterment of the state .

  • @wandaholmes7125
    @wandaholmes7125 14 часов назад

    Iran is probably where they would be most comfortable or Afghanistan.

  • @malcolmsoh5648
    @malcolmsoh5648 28 дней назад

    laïcité does include not wanting to date drunk women? lol

  • @moveurfeet
    @moveurfeet Месяц назад +22

    British and Americans never understand well laïcité, even when they try to explain it...
    Yes, French public holidays are Christian (or sometimes a - religious) days.
    But it doesn't contradict the Laïcité.
    We French have our History and our culture. No one is compelled to celebrate Christian days. These days aren't "Christian" as they aren't religious anymore as public holidays.
    These are just LEGITIMATE cultural roots. The Laïcité doesn't mean we have to erase our History nor our culture. Nor that we need to have new public holidays based on Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc. These are not the roots / History of France. Muslims, Hindus, etc, must NOT try to compete and ask for special public holidays from a communautarian / sectarian point of view.
    They must adopt our History and culture, along with their own culture, as long as it doesn't oppose French values and laws.
    French public holidays are NOT anymore - thanks to the laïcité - , a Christian communautarist fact. They 're national memory and national areligious rule for every Frenchman / woman.
    The Laïcité just help preventing a religious group to impose its arbitrary rules in politics or in education. But the Laïcité is weakened by many muslims and by the far - left, the wokies and their liberal allies.
    The political parties talk a lot after each drama, but all they manage to do is to fight terrorism (our services prevent many attacks ... untill they'll fail again). They don't manage to fight islamism, even if it nourrishes the partition of France and also terrorism. They don't know (or don't dare to speak about) the fact that islamism (without the name "islamism" nor all its theories, but with its visions and its ways to behave and to take action) is rooted in the early Islam and in its holy books.
    And that Islamism must be treated as a dangerous sect of invadors and traitors threatening the society and the country.
    Muslims should be compelled to respect laïcité (like usually every non muslim does), or be treated as traitors.

    • @krdiaz8026
      @krdiaz8026 Месяц назад +1

      They could wear wigs and turtlenecks. The Jews adapted to laicite. Christians adapted to laicite. It's only the Muslims who keep making a fuss.

    • @chinaiscommittinggenocidei4924
      @chinaiscommittinggenocidei4924 Месяц назад

      Muslims are all colonizers though they'll never listen you should just deport them all.

    • @chinaiscommittinggenocidei4924
      @chinaiscommittinggenocidei4924 Месяц назад

      They are traitors they hate us.

    • @DSan-kl2yc
      @DSan-kl2yc Месяц назад

      It's hypocrisy. Because you're denying some people the act of their subculture.
      Children don't have the means to impose laws on adults. It's hypocrisy. You're imposing laws.
      No one is saying religious laws should be forced.
      But you've moved into the realm of controlling the person, and what's on their person instead of just the political institution.
      France's oppressive ideas should be challenged. They should be weakened. That's a normal part of culture. It happened to its sexism I assume.
      Laicite or whatever should be weakened till it makes sense.
      Till it can work on institutions without demanding sacrifice of the person for having some harmless trinket.
      Because that's banana bonkers

  • @kathysouza4565
    @kathysouza4565 Месяц назад

    spin it Ladies!

  • @barisayeem2634
    @barisayeem2634 Месяц назад +18

    Iran want to enforce hijab and France want to remove hijab..What's difference between Iran and france ?

    • @alextyy
      @alextyy Месяц назад +27

      Easy. One is right and one is wrong.

    • @fernandoalegria4240
      @fernandoalegria4240 Месяц назад +32

      In France it is not a death penalty offense.

    • @captainchaoscow
      @captainchaoscow Месяц назад +3

      Step down from your "Peace is War -War is Peace" mindset.

    • @barisayeem2634
      @barisayeem2634 Месяц назад

      @@fernandoalegria4240 But France gave lesson for democracy?If some country don't follow france wishes france sanctioned but who will sanction france ?

    • @eddyr1041
      @eddyr1041 Месяц назад +6

      Most women in iran dint hv access to job and dont vote.
      High infant and mother mortality in iran and high sid.

  • @sofiwuu3001
    @sofiwuu3001 26 дней назад

    No problème with the law...cause it's not passed that day...but the principal shouldnt touch the girl and tried to remove it himself. He may call police and arrested her, whatsoever. So, did he or did he not, touch the girl...for inforcing the law himself?
    Did he issue a warning first ? Sent her to retention for example? In anycase, he c'ant force to remove anything from her! It's breach of conduct.

    • @ErickHumboldt
      @ErickHumboldt 11 дней назад

      You don t know French law 😂😂e

    • @sofiwuu3001
      @sofiwuu3001 11 дней назад

      @@ErickHumboldt yes, américaine law c'est ce que 😬

    • @sofiwuu3001
      @sofiwuu3001 11 дней назад

      @@ErickHumboldt then it is what it is: people has right to defend themselves when feeling attacked or insulted. Too bad

  • @gcgfchjkjlklkcxfxdzs
    @gcgfchjkjlklkcxfxdzs Месяц назад

    Hypocrisy

  • @DSan-kl2yc
    @DSan-kl2yc Месяц назад

    The rest of the world would call it religious oppression.
    Personal artifacts are not the public institution. It makes no sense to apply it to people, let alone people visiting the building.

  • @iftinaxmad781
    @iftinaxmad781 Месяц назад +5

    Where is freedom of chose !!!!

    • @AuxaneST
      @AuxaneST Месяц назад +15

      Everywhere but taxfunded public schools for minors which are not places of worship nor religious or political proselytism but SECULAR HAVENS of factual learning.

    • @SeaJay_Oceans
      @SeaJay_Oceans Месяц назад +3

      French men have a right to date young muslim boys. Do you REALLY support freedom of homosexuality ?

    • @zombiekilla7463
      @zombiekilla7463 Месяц назад +5

      in your appartment

    • @jool7793
      @jool7793 Месяц назад

      You can choose to go back to your muslim country.

    • @moveurfeet
      @moveurfeet Месяц назад +3

      In most places : your home, streets, parks, marketplaces, trains, underground, buses, administrations (except in schools ; in the other administrations : not as a worker, but as a citizen looking for services / help).
      In schools we want all pupils to take a step away from their families' beliefs. It's not oppression, but a gift so as to help the pupil to experiment its national belonging, and fraternity with the other citizens ; and to choose what he/she wants. To build its own personnal views.

  • @flixer4K
    @flixer4K Месяц назад

    France must accept Shariah

    • @Scidzcopter
      @Scidzcopter Месяц назад +9

      Never gonna happen, DeGaulle left his mark

    • @user-fp9kb4yj1z
      @user-fp9kb4yj1z Месяц назад

      Never gonna happen Muslims just leave France

    • @deekang6244
      @deekang6244 26 дней назад +3

      No, they really don’t.

    • @user-fp9kb4yj1z
      @user-fp9kb4yj1z 26 дней назад

      Muslims must leave France

  • @gcgfchjkjlklkcxfxdzs
    @gcgfchjkjlklkcxfxdzs Месяц назад

    Then, remove Christian holidays from ur public holidays.

    • @deekang6244
      @deekang6244 26 дней назад

      Well, although Christmas has religious roots, many celebrate it as a cultural holiday. I do. So, then, it is not specifically religious.

    • @ErickHumboldt
      @ErickHumboldt 11 дней назад

      France has a christian culture, a christian history, now there is a law and respect it or leave France

  • @alieudarboe5408
    @alieudarboe5408 Месяц назад +2

    Secularism Must Not Contradict Freedom and Democracy!
    But is the same Secular France, and other European countries, also not the self-proclaimed champions and advocates of Freedom and Democracy?
    Why would you allow other students with all kinds of short and indecent clothings in the classroom, but disallow a female (Muslim) student who only wants to cover her body for the sake of decency and morality.
    The principles of Secularism should and must not, in any way, be in violation and contradiction of the principles and fundamentals of Freedom and Democracy.

    • @AuxaneST
      @AuxaneST Месяц назад +2

      Hairs are not an "indencent" body part especially not for a minor. Only perverts and misogynists would think that.

    • @MM-iy7gz
      @MM-iy7gz Месяц назад +2

      The problem is that the Muslim foe rejects freedom and democracy.

    • @sundars8031
      @sundars8031 Месяц назад +1

      Wherr is it indicated that others wore indecent clothes to school??.... Please define what indecent is,you delusional Islamic moron.

    • @sundars8031
      @sundars8031 Месяц назад +1

      Women don't go to schools wearing bikinis....If they want to study in an Islamic school,let them go back to one of their 51 regressive countries...This is not a place of worship and people come here to study and flaunt their religion.....Stop playing the victim card!

    • @zombiekilla7463
      @zombiekilla7463 Месяц назад +11

      religion must remain absolutely private