Fuel Injection = Fool Injection. Aftermarket Fuel Injection and the Dumbing Down of America!
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Follow along as I explain why fuel injection is NOT better than a carburetor and why fuel injection is part of the dumbing down of America!
Totally true. Very happy with my Holley and my Rochester
On my 390 I built I got the best of both worlds. I put a new old stock Holley 4011 spread bore on it. It looks like an old Autolite 4100 sitting there under the air cleaner but its spread bore with vacuum secondaries. So fuel economy and power when I need it with the simplicity of a Holley!
My dad used to be totally biased on fuel injection. He always talked about getting a Holley sniper on his Bronco. But now I think I’ve finally shown him and others that carburetors are far more reliable than any aftermarket fuel injection. Carburetors are awesome and like you said with a little common sense they will never let you down. Great video!!!😎
Thank you. Carbs work and will continue to work for many more years. They aren't going away anytime soon which is great news for us lol
As usual a wealth of good information in layman's teams so I understand it. Thanks for the carburetor calculations that's some good Info.
Thank You for your kind words!
You have a good point with the carburetor CFM requirements. I put the 500 CFM Summit carb on my 390 and it runs great with it. Really good low-end response and I've ran it to 5500 RPM with that carb and it still had more in it if I let it. But lots of people run a bigass 750-780 CFM on the same engine I have. I felt no difference in high end power going from 600 to 500 CFM but definitely picked up some on the low end.
Absolutely. It seems people don't understand how much bottom end they are giving up by running a carb that is too big on the street. it's the same thing as running a Victor Jr intake on the street. Yes they will work but you're going to give up quite a bit on the bottom end because there is no air velocity below 2,00-2,500 rpms. That's why I said it's all about the engine combination. I've seen a lot of engines that would run way better with a Holley 500cfm two barrel and intake than they did with a750cfm four barrel and big single plane intake.
I’m 60 years old and an old school carb guy, I would rather go cross country with a carb over EFI any day, if I break down at least there’s a good chance I can fix it, when my wife’s car had a misfire I had to break out the scanner to figure out what the problem was, great video 👍😁
Yes!!! You can get parts for a Holley carburetor at most any auto parts store if you're broke down. But if you break down with an aftermarket fuel injection system you're going to be waiting on Summit or Jegs to make a delivery lol
I couldn’t agree more with you everything I have except my 7.3 power stroke is carbureted including my bikes you sir are funny but truth
Well a lot of people don’t like me because I tell it like it is but I won’t let that stop me from telling it like it is lol
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Some very good points said very funny.
Nowadays you can get a system called "The Carb Cheater" to dial in your air fuel ratio better than FI and it will maintain those ratios driving from the beach to the mountains.
Thunderhead 289 on here, a Ford guy invented the gizmo. It looks really slick, I would get one of those before I would get fool injection for an old pre FI car.😎👍
Oh yes...I've seen those on his video's. I would also do that before I went full blown fuel injection set up. If it was to mess up it would be easily reversible beside the road
I've thought about trying one. The AFR's swing so wildly on my 64 galaxie when the heat builds under the hood its crazy. I can go from a 13:1 idle to 10:1 and running like crap during prolonged idling on hot days from the heat build up and there's nothing I can really do about it other than open the hood. During those conditions, once I go down the road a mile or so everything returns to normal. It's not the carb, as I have had two different types of carburetors on there with the same results. I think the carb cheater would help a lot with that situation.
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It's either gonna work or it ain't.😁👍
If you get one and try it let us know if it fixes it@@MattsRageFitGarage
@@BlackLabGarage I've done some more research on it and once they come back in stock I'm gonna buy one and try it out.
too right. carbs rule.
They really do and will rule for years to come!
I like them both…efi and carb
@@TheRossillini I like factory EFI systems but aftermarket EFI is too problematic
@@BlackLabGarage depends on the setup man I have a 460 efi with obd1 and that shits garbage but I’m running a torque storm supercharger and I’m going to try Holley’s super sniper.
@@TheRossillini I know there has been people use the mass air and computer from the fox body mustangs on their trucks which is a great improvement
@@BlackLabGarage I think it’s all cool because there’s still things happening in the industry such as the innovation of the efi systems.
@@TheRossillini multiport fuel injection will always be better than throttle bottle fuel injection. My biggest gripe with aftermarket fuel injection is it takes very little to make it go haywire or not run at all. But you don’t hear that much about it on here. It’s only the success stories that you hear about mostly on here. But what are you really gaining with aftermarket fuel injection? Fuel economy? The difference between a properly sized and tuned carb and aftermarket fuel injection would be negligible and could go in favor of either one on a given day. One of the FE groups that I’m in, some of them running aftermarket EFI can’t get the fuel mileage I have with a carb. You can let the EFI control the distributor but I recurve my distributors and adjust the vacuum advance so there isn’t a big advantage there either? I just don’t see where there is a $2,000 advantage of aftermarket EFI over a properly set up carbureted engine.
I’ll keep my modified edelbrock for off-roading.
I know Edelbrock carbs have a bad reputation for off roading because of their design. I'm genuinely curious as to how yours is modified to make it good for off road use?
Off-road needle and seat, sealed off the fuel transfer slot in between the fuel bowls and converted to dual feed. It’s a thunder avs 2 800 cfm for my square body. Nothing fancy just to keep it going across ditches and hill climbs like the dunes.
Ahhhh ok. The AVS is a better carb than the old AFB design. I'd say the dual feed helps it out a lot on hills.@@JeremyFrazelle-or1mt
The annular boosters really help throttle response. I was really impressed with my Brothers so I bought one for my 454.
That's one thing I love about the Holley 4010 and 4011 series carburetors. They use annular boosters in them@@JeremyFrazelle-or1mt
I have 2 dentsides both 351 modifieds one with a tunnel ram with 2 edelbrock four barrels and the other one with a 650 cfm. People ask me all the time to change to efi and I say no way. Carburetors on my trucks forever!!!
There really isn't an advantage to efi when a carb is properly sized and tuned along with the rest of the engine. I definitely don't see a $2000 improvement or advantage.
So true my friend.
500 cfm carb best for most all motors in trucks
Yep...you get throttle response, low end power, and fuel mileage staying smaller. I think 500cfm is fine for anything 400 cubic inches and smaller and staying around 4500-5000 rpms which most street and truck engines do. I do think that 500cfm might run a little lean on 460 cubic inches though. I've even had 600cfm Edelbrocks run too lean on a 460 before. But a 600cfm Edelbrock does not flow what a 600cfm Holley does.
@@BlackLabGarage got 83 f150 302 2 barrel is plenty to me its motorcraft 2150
@@user-zy1qd4rs8j The best running Autolite/Motorcraft I ever had was an Autolite 2V that came off of a 1968 429 2V. It was the 1.33 venturi size. I had it on a 289 engine and it ran great. That's the only 1.33 size Autolite I have ever owned so far. All of the rest have been 1.21 and 1.23 size.