This is an amp that Mesa Boogie has needed to introduce for a very long time. New sound and a new look without venturing too far from what they are known for. This amp sounds incredible. Great demo.
not sure if you guys gives a damn but if you are bored like me atm you can stream pretty much all the new movies on InstaFlixxer. I've been binge watching with my gf for the last days :)
I just got this amp last week. To be fair I’m still in the honeymoon phase but so far I’m impressed by it. Still getting used to it. It’s got a great clean and overdriven sound. Takes pedals well too. Thank you Mesa Boogie for making such a great amp.
@@warnistt For me, the master volume is very transparent so you can get great tones are reasonable volume. At 50 watts, its definitely loud so don't expect bedroom level practice, but I use mine to for practice in a small rec room in my basement and I'm able to get great sounds without my ears bleeding or my neighbors hating me. Note that the half power switch does not correlate to half volume. It reduces the volume a bit, but it's more for changing the feel/response than it is for dropping the volume way down. Also, they changed the labelling on the 50w/25w switch since technically, the clean channel is ~40w and the Drive/Hi is ~60w (according to the Mesa website) likely as a result of the extra gain stage in the preamp when in Drive/Hi modes.
WHen I saw this vid I said I was going to get one of these Mesa amps finally. It arrived today and I have to say it's even better than I imagined Mesa. You have earned a new loyal patron and I will now be jumping into some other Mesa products ASAP. Glad to be a part of the Mesa crowd finally.
I was JUST about to pull the trigger on a Fender Deluxe Reverb until I started looking into this amp. I wanted the Fender for the cleans to run my pedal board through, but I am going to spend a little more and grab a FIllmore 50. This amp has it all!!
This is like the heir apparent to the Studio/Caliber series. As a proud owner of a '92 Studio .22+ (one of the best amps I've ever owned), I'm totally on board with this.
@@capitanvonchickenpants8492 It's definitely not for everyone. The two things people seem to dislike about the Studio: 1) Shared Gain knob & tone stacks between the Rhythm & Lead Channels 2) Hard to 'dial in'. I tend to like darker, warmer tones for both my clean and distortion; personally, I was able to quickly get a round, wooly "fusion" tone from the lead channel without the clean being muddy, so the shared EQ doesn't bug me at all. Being a small, open-back 1x12 enclosure, it's definitely more mid-range forward in general (which I'd also great for my preferences). I dunno - it's lightweight, rugged, super portable, very loud, versatile and highly affordable. As far as vintage tube combos go, I think the Studio .22 is a real hidden gem.
Hi, I've owned and gigged every model of boogie starting with a mkiv simul-class combo back in 1990. I thought I'd finally got the greatest amp on the planet!! I was wrong...same applied to every one I've owned since...!!!
Sounds very good and Organic !? Wonder why you didnt’use the Fillmore speaker in those ? The Fillmore is the best speaker ever made since Pre Rola’s !!
FWIW, I find even the "Clean" channel of my F-50 has too much gain, so I run 12AU7 (gain = 19) tubes in V1 & V2, rather than the stock 12AX7s (gain = 100). Which, you know, is some thing you can do to any amp to tame its gain. 19^4= 130K, 100^4 = 100M
I have used on other amps the 12AT's....which i think are around the 70% gain....with the 12AU's you need to use them on a 50W plus amp or you can loose too much volume....just my opinion....isn't it great to have the options at our fingertips
I love everything about the "Fillmore" Small & portable, Circuit isn't loaded down with too many switches, The best pedal platform with 50 watts of 6L6 power, and look......a second duplicate channel to do what ever the hell ya want!
A nice Fuzz pedal on the clean channel.....or a mild boost/OD for pushing the "Drive & Hi" channels over the top would be the only gain pedals I would use with the Fillmore...... Randall & Co refined some pretty bitchin sounds under the hood.... Using medium to hi- gain pedals would seem a huge disservice to what's already on tap.
very impressed with the design of this amp... it has all the features i am looking for and more... the Andy Timmons video with this amp is even better... tone for days
they are beautiful. my goodness, almost like ampeg-ish huh? i love the look and sound! mesa ,to me has been about the "boogie" or drive tone. thats just my opinion. i always wanted a mesa to have the superior cleans ,but catering to the metal world i think i didnt find that in them this may fill that spot now
This Fillmore, the Tweed, and Lonestar all have amazing cleans. They have a bio up, they never meant to make the metal amp, it was a byproduct of great clean circuitry that just got beautifully built on. People do think of the rectifier and that metal treadplate when thinking of boogie yes, because it's so dominant in rock and metal, (and a lot of fun to play). But they started like a lot of brands, modding fender amps for more. Check out they're lineup sometime. As a clean player myself, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Good luck. Rock on
Would be nice a 20/10 watts combo, with all the features included on this Filmore 50. And with a CLEANER CLEAN, not overly bright, shrill and metallic like VOX or some Fender. On this video I still can hear distortion with the "clean" channel. I don't know, maybe it's because the guys still used some gain. Would be nice to hear 3 separate and complete videos: CLEAN (without and with pedals), drive (without and with pedals) and hi gain. Thank you!
Was looking for a new amp wanted a mesa rectifier or mark 4 I like the cleans and pushed on the rectifier and the hi gain options but I really like mesa reverb the mark 4 has that i listened to lots of fillmore videos than I heard this one and went out and bought one should be here I few days i cant wait I've been through lots of gear but this may be the one lol just the fender and les paul sounds at the end sold me
Why pay more for a mesa boogie? two years later: I bought a lone star special and love it. easily the best amp i have ever owned, it sounds great at beadroom volume levels!
I like what mesa did on this amp. Despite this model came much simpler than other models, i believe that this Filmore still has many switches. Why not to simplify much more the circuit? Like the previous F50 model, really beautiful sounding amp and damm simple to use. Much More stable circuit (from simplicity point of View). Mesa unlike other amp builders, has the tone!!! Why not to get rid of unnecessary whistles. Pd. Mesa amps are the Best i've ever bond with. Simply love the sound. Cheers!
What does it do that a lonestar doesn't? Saw Robben Ford at yoshis in 2007, there was a lonestar special on stage. Could have been the keys amp but assumed it was for guitar. Anyway, this amp sounds 😎
I'm interested in this amp primarily because I prefer simpler, lower gain amps, and I current play an early F-50 combo. Why do all the examples here sound so *muddy*? From the tube chart in the owner's manual, I see you've made both the fx loop and the reverb tube-driven, plus an adjustable negative feedback Presence control, which is very welcome. But, you've also eliminated the Contour feature. I think the kicker though is, the addition of the triode/pentode mode switch, which I really wish I had on my F-50.
Hi Gemma - Thanks for the kind words and your enthusiasm for the Fillmore 50! Regarding your comment about the samples being muddy, I have some thoughts... and a genuine question. The question first... Do you have any links to videos/demos (hopefully somewhat comparable tonally and circuit-wise) that you believe is NOT muddy and/or good example(s) of the tone(s) you would expect to hear? I'm also interested to know what your reference listening system is... headphones, studio monitors, earbuds? We take a great deal of care and pride in delivering demo audio that is a) reflects the sound of the amp -as accurately as possible- as it sounded in the room when captured, b) not hyped or overly 'engineered', and c) essentially not post-processed or EQ'd except for output optimization ('mastering') for optimal RUclips levels, etc. We seek a final output that reflects a balanced response over the massive array of listening devices ( from earbuds to full-on, legitimate studio monitoring) and we DON'T seek 'slick' production or anything outside the reality of what was captured. As we often shoot with no less than 3 cameras, we have a set of on-camera stereo mics that 'surround' the capture and serve as a reference for the general room tone. That audio is frequently referenced while we determine our mix of a dedicated stereo room mic that we add to taste (generally 10-15%) to the pair of close mics that we almost always end up with a 50/50 or 45/55 blend of a Shure SM57 and Shure KSM313. Some people may expect to either hear commercially 'polished' (read: Bright) mixes, or 'hyped' mixes with boosted bass, punch and highs - mixing that often aligns with how commercial music is most often finished and/or what is proven to be what the human ear tends to find more inviting/pleasing. One specific thing we don't seek in our demos are tones that are especially bright. Our observation is that most people to seem to understand that if they want a sound to be brighter than what they hear, they will dial in Treble AND Presence controls -higher- to achieve the amount of brightness they want. OTOH, when the sound is bright/harsh, demo listeners and commenters 'label' the AMP as being inherently bright (undesirable), disregarding that there are Treble and Presence controls to adjust (lower) for their perceived preference, beyond the other variables in play like guitars, pickups, techniques, styles, FX, attack, etc. We're not specifically trying to make demos dark, but we're sensitive to making stuff sound harsh as people seem less able to "do the math" when tones lean bright. The Fillmore 50 is by no means a muddy amp and we would hope that it would be obvious that TWO high frequency controls of any amp should allow one to dial in brightness to taste, especially given our track record for making amps with "controls that work". Unfortunately, settings and dialing to taste rarely seems to be bought up in comment streams and discussions versus just, "too much of something or not enough of something else". Perhaps our leaning toward warm is what your describing as muddy? Bottom line - there's a million ways to make an amplifier demo and a million ways that people would seemingly prefer a demo to be made... If there were a surefire way of doing online sound demos, everyone would be doing it that way. But - it's sound, and it's DEEPLY subjective and also highly subject to a thousand outside listening variables after uploading and another thousand or so in the capture process. Despite doing our best, it's probably impossible to please everyone (or even a slight majority), but this is our process at the moment, subject to refinement and change as we learn more about what helps people make important musical instrument choices in a medium that attempts to stuff a dynamic and highly personalized three-dimensional audio experience into a linear, highly variable and barely two-dimensional tunnel of a listeners available listening tools and subjective preferences. Thanks for reading and genuinely interested in your thoughts and any examples you might share that reflect what you think a great demo sounds like. Hope this helps!
I rarely comment on RUclips videos, however - I’ve just bought the Filmore 50 combo. I play classic hard rock. Have Mesa Boogie produced their best amp since the MK IIC+ ? I think so 👍🏻😀
My main amp is my f-100. It’s a beast of an amp. I redid the tolex in candy green. Amazing cleans and crunch. The high gain leaves a little to be desired but I only go there for leads.
After a couple years I finally pulled the trigger. I’m an older guy, and although I’m not looking forward to moving it because of the weight, The tone I’ve been looking for is all over this thing!
If you ever do an update to this model there are 2 features I'd really like to see added: 1) Power attenuator like TC-100 and California Tweed have 2) Update to footswitch and footswitchable functions to include switchable Channel, Reverb, and FX Loop. (Instead of two separate footswitches for Channel and Reverb).
I liked it enough to trade in a half-stack for one. My back is getting old, what can I say? When putting it through more intense paces at home, I found the MC90 speaker really harsh at higher volumes. Down on the floor with a plexiglass screen in front of it helped, but on a stand pointed at the back of my head was brutal. I swapped out the speaker for a Cannabis Rex, and it was a huge difference. I could actually turn the treble knob past noon and find some nicer tones. It doesn't project to the sides as well, but looking straight into the speaker is much better. The unfortunate aspect of the swap was that I had to remove the reverb tank to make space for the deeper speaker. But, my pedal board has a reverb that works well up front, or going into the effects loop. I've been experimenting with other speakers through an extension cab, without any super satisfying results. About the only thing I haven't tried is a Mesa Fillmore 75 speaker, since I don't have one. The experimentation will continue...I do recommend trying a Cannabis Rex, though. As the demo shows, proper mic selection, placement and post EQ makes this a very versatile amp with the MC90. Plenty of power, nicely designed and laid out. My back is much happier, my ears are still searching. Likely scenario is going back to the MC90 on floor isolators and plexiglass deflector. Seems to fill the room with a broader frequency spectrum in a band rehearsal/live gig scenario.
Kris Dilbeck (1st guy in the demo with the tele) should absolutely hands down demo every new “non-metal” amp Mesa puts out. Fer-realz. (JP should do the metal ones) Andy Timmons can demo whichever/whatever he wants. 😆
Of course this is subjective: The "Clean" pre-amp setting on the Mark V:25 is really great, but I run it on 'Fat'. Either way, give it some gas and this little Mesa head shines. The Lonestar Channel 1, 100 watt setting is loud, clean and beefy. Between them, if you can't get a great sound from guitar, cord and amp, you're not trying hard enough, in my opinion. I don't have any boost, distortion or overdrive pedals(all sold) because both Mesas fill the bill for me and I don't have physical room or the budget for a 3rd amp.
There's not dealer around here that has them. But here's the deal...If I want 50 watts I switch the Lonestar down to 50 and run 'Tweed' mode. If I want 25 watts, I just crank the crap out of the Mark V:25. Plus I don't need two channels. If this was a single channel amp with less circuitry then I'd consider, but that's not what Mesa does, do they? For me, the Lonestar running 100 watts is the ultimate for the money for my style and volumes.
I've been trying to get a Fillmore 50 tone out of my Lonestar at 50W... get's most of the way there on it's own. I've actually come to realize the Lonestar shines by itself although it does take pedals very well... a circular journey but it's been a fun one. lol
Are the cleans comparable to the Lonestar or Express 5:50 plus? 6L6s . Seems like the clean from the express and the crunch from the express in the same amp which is what I’ve been after. Am I on the right track?
Easily comparable, Adam, and some havce been sayiong they like the Fillmore just as much or more. It doesn;t have quite the headroom of the Lone Star 100w (of course), but people have been saying they hear it as being a little more open. The gain channels are like a classic overdrive pedal in DRIVE, and HI is like vintage styled tweed/brit hybrid circuits for medium gain. Hope this helps and thanks for your interest!
How do you compare Mark V 25 to Fillmore? I got a chance to play it a little bit and it was so easy to dial in. I was able to get a compress sound. I got Mark V but now I want this. Should I
Gosh dang im scared to death of Mesa. I wanted one since I was a teen, got a MKV 90w that stayed in repair. It was deemed a "lemon", got a 2nd one completely free, same thing. Man I want to love them but I got burnt pretty bad b/c of the Marks. Was super excited to see this was vintage inspired, classic, etc, but they're still going to stuff 6 modes in it? It sounds good though and I hope you all keep inspiring artists
So from looking at the photos of this amp on your website I see the footswitch only works for reverb on/ off ? so you can't switch in the middle of a song between clean and dirty with a footswitch correct ? hmmmm
Thanks for the kind words, Tricko. I'm guessing the tiny bit of clip on the first playing example when digging in might suggest to you that it's not sparkling clean, but it's in there. Note that the Gain on that example is around 1:00. If you want the amp to be pristine clean, Gain around 11:00 with the Master high or all the way up is where that will happen. Anyway - I'd humbly suggest sparkling clean is easily in the amp. Thanks for watching and taking the time to commnent!
I have the 50 watt head. Has anyone had problems with the reverb doing strangs, like not working, or the reverb on the right channel changing the volume, instead of reverb? Also have had both channels set at 12 o' clock on all knobs, but one side sounds compressed/muffled while the other is bright and clearer? HELP MEEE PLEASE!!!
Welcome to the next series of Mesa amps you'll be able to buy for $600 used on craiglist in about 5 years or so. Btw nothing wrong with that at all, just an amazing deal on some hidden gems!
isn't this similar to the lone star classic with the 6l6's? (which i love and own btw). sounds great anyway, seems maybe like a lower wattage twin with a drive channel, which is fantastic. take my money please...
I love Mesas and really want to like this one, but it has this weird, rolled-off, muddy thing going on, like there's a blanket over it or the guitars all have their tone controls rolled down. I'll have to check one out in the wild and see what's really going on.
Hi Nate - Interesting that you find it/hearing it muddy/rolled-off. Can I ask what you're listening to the demo with? Headphones, earbuds, computer speakers, monitors? There';s no shortage of brightness and detail if needed with the Fillmore but curious what you're listening with. Thanks for your interest!
Unsure about the Fillmore 50, but - with other Mesa amps... roll the bass down or increase treble and presence for more clarity. YMMV but it got rid of my Lonestar 2x12's wet blanket :)
I being a player and a former Mesa authorized repair person jumped off there repair roster when there channel switching went to a JFET muting arrangement. Working on there amps turned in to gnat surgery. One thing that I will say in there favor is that there tech support dealing with other authorized techs I always found very favorable.
This is an amp that Mesa Boogie has needed to introduce for a very long time. New sound and a new look without venturing too far from what they are known for. This amp sounds incredible. Great demo.
Many thanks, Bridges. Appreciate the kind words. :D
not sure if you guys gives a damn but if you are bored like me atm you can stream pretty much all the new movies on InstaFlixxer. I've been binge watching with my gf for the last days :)
@Lian Javier yup, I have been watching on instaflixxer for months myself =)
@Lian Javier yea, I've been watching on InstaFlixxer for years myself =)
@Lian Javier Definitely, have been watching on instaflixxer for months myself =)
Love the tones from this beauty... can't wait for my custom shop order to get here.
I just got this amp last week. To be fair I’m still in the honeymoon phase but so far I’m impressed by it. Still getting used to it. It’s got a great clean and overdriven sound. Takes pedals well too. Thank you Mesa Boogie for making such a great amp.
Can the sweet spots be reached at small club volume or is it a loud monster ?
@@warnistt For me, the master volume is very transparent so you can get great tones are reasonable volume. At 50 watts, its definitely loud so don't expect bedroom level practice, but I use mine to for practice in a small rec room in my basement and I'm able to get great sounds without my ears bleeding or my neighbors hating me. Note that the half power switch does not correlate to half volume. It reduces the volume a bit, but it's more for changing the feel/response than it is for dropping the volume way down. Also, they changed the labelling on the 50w/25w switch since technically, the clean channel is ~40w and the Drive/Hi is ~60w (according to the Mesa website) likely as a result of the extra gain stage in the preamp when in Drive/Hi modes.
best review and tones out of all the amp videos i've ever seen, its simply the best.
WHen I saw this vid I said I was going to get one of these Mesa amps finally. It arrived today and I have to say it's even better than I imagined Mesa. You have earned a new loyal patron and I will now be jumping into some other Mesa products ASAP. Glad to be a part of the Mesa crowd finally.
The chap with blue Tom A guitar was very enthusiastic . Sounded great
I was JUST about to pull the trigger on a Fender Deluxe Reverb until I started looking into this amp. I wanted the Fender for the cleans to run my pedal board through, but I am going to spend a little more and grab a FIllmore 50. This amp has it all!!
Thank you, Eric!
Wow! This is a GREAT sounding amp! Nice job, Mesa!
Many thanks, Jason! Much appreciated. :)
I can hear Jimi Hendrix sounds with that gain barely tweaked just right!
Oh my goodness. Those sounds from the Tele and the P-90 Les Paul... weeeoooo those are on another level.
Awesome amp. I think this will put mesa on the top of the wish list again
Omg this is not the amp we deserve but the amp we need. 💓
You said it best bro🤣
This is like the heir apparent to the Studio/Caliber series. As a proud owner of a '92 Studio .22+ (one of the best amps I've ever owned), I'm totally on board with this.
Liking where you're coming from on this, JazzRock. Thanks for the kind words. :)
I have an ‘85 Studio Series, and I share your opinion. Cant wait to try the Fillmore. High probability it’s coming home with me!
My Studio 22+ was horrible
@@capitanvonchickenpants8492 It's definitely not for everyone. The two things people seem to dislike about the Studio:
1) Shared Gain knob & tone stacks between the Rhythm & Lead Channels
2) Hard to 'dial in'.
I tend to like darker, warmer tones for both my clean and distortion; personally, I was able to quickly get a round, wooly "fusion" tone from the lead channel without the clean being muddy, so the shared EQ doesn't bug me at all. Being a small, open-back 1x12 enclosure, it's definitely more mid-range forward in general (which I'd also great for my preferences).
I dunno - it's lightweight, rugged, super portable, very loud, versatile and highly affordable. As far as vintage tube combos go, I think the Studio .22 is a real hidden gem.
I love my Studio .22 and I'm loving the sounds of this Fillmore. I think I will be buying a THIRD Mesa!
Hi, I've owned and gigged every model of boogie starting with a mkiv simul-class combo back in 1990. I thought I'd finally got the greatest amp on the planet!! I was wrong...same applied to every one I've owned since...!!!
They make great amps as do other manufacturers. I sold my Mk 2 c plus a couple years ago. Bought in 1982 and was working great when sold.
as a metalhead,and no way primary target for this amp,this is hands down the best amp video on the internet,maybe ever.
Another gorgeous addition to the Mesa line!
Mesa, I'm pretty sure you've knocked it out of the park with this one.
Thanks, Mofong... much appreciated. :D
To the dear folks at Mesa/Boogie. I think I just found my next amp. This fits my "thing" to a T (for Tele!). I can't wait to give it a shot.
Nice, Jonathan! Thanks for taking the time to let us know and keep us posted as to what you think when you get a chance to check it out!
the custom finishes are exquisite
That tele boi is amazing
submarineofdoctors Kris Dilbeck (I believe that’s the correct spelling of his name - he works at Mesa doing customer service if I’m not mistaken)
Sounds very good and Organic !?
Wonder why you didnt’use the Fillmore
speaker in those ?
The Fillmore is the best speaker ever made since Pre Rola’s !!
A soft clipping MESA/Boogie? Is the world finally coming around from it's horrible high gain obsession? Love it!
Have you never played an F-Series Boogie?
I hadn't even heard of them but I just looked them up, thanks. :)
FWIW, I find even the "Clean" channel of my F-50 has too much gain, so I run 12AU7 (gain = 19) tubes in V1 & V2, rather than the stock 12AX7s (gain = 100). Which, you know, is some thing you can do to any amp to tame its gain. 19^4= 130K, 100^4 = 100M
I have used on other amps the 12AT's....which i think are around the 70% gain....with the 12AU's you need to use them on a 50W plus amp or you can loose too much volume....just my opinion....isn't it great to have the options at our fingertips
Check out the Blue Angel model as well. Great sounding class A amp
I love everything about the "Fillmore" Small & portable, Circuit isn't loaded down with too many switches, The best pedal platform with 50 watts of 6L6 power, and look......a second duplicate channel to do what ever the hell ya want!
NAILED IT, Auen! Thanks for the kind words and high level powers of observation. :D
A nice Fuzz pedal on the clean channel.....or a mild boost/OD for pushing the "Drive & Hi" channels over the top would be the only gain pedals I would use with the Fillmore...... Randall & Co refined some pretty bitchin sounds under the hood.... Using medium to hi- gain pedals would seem a huge disservice to what's already on tap.
Damn what a dream it would be to have this as a jam and concert amplifier :D :D
Love it, have to get one of these 👍🏼 Bravo👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
It really can do Fender cleans and Mesa chugg effortlessly! Me wants
very impressed with the design of this amp... it has all the features i am looking for and more... the Andy Timmons video with this amp is even better... tone for days
they are beautiful. my goodness, almost like ampeg-ish huh?
i love the look and sound!
mesa ,to me has been about the "boogie" or drive tone.
thats just my opinion.
i always wanted a mesa to have the superior cleans ,but catering to the metal world i think i didnt find that in them
this may fill that spot now
This Fillmore, the Tweed, and Lonestar all have amazing cleans. They have a bio up, they never meant to make the metal amp, it was a byproduct of great clean circuitry that just got beautifully built on. People do think of the rectifier and that metal treadplate when thinking of boogie yes, because it's so dominant in rock and metal, (and a lot of fun to play). But they started like a lot of brands, modding fender amps for more. Check out they're lineup sometime. As a clean player myself, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Good luck. Rock on
I'm more of a Boogie fan more and more these days. Crazy tube warmth and sparkling eq.
0:50 is Andy Timmons guitar and rig. Can't wait to hear his demo.
Hawkeye!
first boogie I have been interested in
Nice design - best tone is at the outro!!
Would be nice a 20/10 watts combo, with all the features included on this Filmore 50. And with a CLEANER CLEAN, not overly bright, shrill and metallic like VOX or some Fender. On this video I still can hear distortion with the "clean" channel. I don't know, maybe it's because the guys still used some gain. Would be nice to hear 3 separate and complete videos: CLEAN (without and with pedals), drive (without and with pedals) and hi gain. Thank you!
Was looking for a new amp wanted a mesa rectifier or mark 4 I like the cleans and pushed on the rectifier and the hi gain options but I really like mesa reverb the mark 4 has that i listened to lots of fillmore videos than I heard this one and went out and bought one should be here I few days i cant wait I've been through lots of gear but this may be the one lol just the fender and les paul sounds at the end sold me
3.45 - 4.20 = badass blues tone with a strat
Sounds fantastic
Why pay more for a mesa boogie?
two years later: I bought a lone star special and love it. easily the best amp i have ever owned, it sounds great at beadroom volume levels!
I like what mesa did on this amp. Despite this model came much simpler than other models, i believe that this Filmore still has many switches. Why not to simplify much more the circuit? Like the previous F50 model, really beautiful sounding amp and damm simple to use. Much More stable circuit (from simplicity point of View).
Mesa unlike other amp builders, has the tone!!! Why not to get rid of unnecessary whistles.
Pd. Mesa amps are the Best i've ever bond with. Simply love the sound.
Cheers!
Just love the outro clipped sound - sounds like 'buckers. Nice amp Mesa team! Now to get some funding for this baby!
What does it do that a lonestar doesn't? Saw Robben Ford at yoshis in 2007, there was a lonestar special on stage. Could have been the keys amp but assumed it was for guitar. Anyway, this amp sounds 😎
I like the idea of 2 identical channels. I have a jcm900 dual reverb. Rarely used the dirty channel.
Frank Stein I had a split channel reverb jcm800 never used the clean channel!!
I'm interested in this amp primarily because I prefer simpler, lower gain amps, and I current play an early F-50 combo. Why do all the examples here sound so *muddy*? From the tube chart in the owner's manual, I see you've made both the fx loop and the reverb tube-driven, plus an adjustable negative feedback Presence control, which is very welcome. But, you've also eliminated the Contour feature. I think the kicker though is, the addition of the triode/pentode mode switch, which I really wish I had on my F-50.
Hi Gemma - Thanks for the kind words and your enthusiasm for the Fillmore 50! Regarding your comment about the samples being muddy, I have some thoughts... and a genuine question. The question first... Do you have any links to videos/demos (hopefully somewhat comparable tonally and circuit-wise) that you believe is NOT muddy and/or good example(s) of the tone(s) you would expect to hear?
I'm also interested to know what your reference listening system is... headphones, studio monitors, earbuds? We take a great deal of care and pride in delivering demo audio that is a) reflects the sound of the amp -as accurately as possible- as it sounded in the room when captured, b) not hyped or overly 'engineered', and c) essentially not post-processed or EQ'd except for output optimization ('mastering') for optimal RUclips levels, etc. We seek a final output that reflects a balanced response over the massive array of listening devices ( from earbuds to full-on, legitimate studio monitoring) and we DON'T seek 'slick' production or anything outside the reality of what was captured. As we often shoot with no less than 3 cameras, we have a set of on-camera stereo mics that 'surround' the capture and serve as a reference for the general room tone. That audio is frequently referenced while we determine our mix of a dedicated stereo room mic that we add to taste (generally 10-15%) to the pair of close mics that we almost always end up with a 50/50 or 45/55 blend of a Shure SM57 and Shure KSM313. Some people may expect to either hear commercially 'polished' (read: Bright) mixes, or 'hyped' mixes with boosted bass, punch and highs - mixing that often aligns with how commercial music is most often finished and/or what is proven to be what the human ear tends to find more inviting/pleasing. One specific thing we don't seek in our demos are tones that are especially bright. Our observation is that most people to seem to understand that if they want a sound to be brighter than what they hear, they will dial in Treble AND Presence controls -higher- to achieve the amount of brightness they want. OTOH, when the sound is bright/harsh, demo listeners and commenters 'label' the AMP as being inherently bright (undesirable), disregarding that there are Treble and Presence controls to adjust (lower) for their perceived preference, beyond the other variables in play like guitars, pickups, techniques, styles, FX, attack, etc. We're not specifically trying to make demos dark, but we're sensitive to making stuff sound harsh as people seem less able to "do the math" when tones lean bright. The Fillmore 50 is by no means a muddy amp and we would hope that it would be obvious that TWO high frequency controls of any amp should allow one to dial in brightness to taste, especially given our track record for making amps with "controls that work". Unfortunately, settings and dialing to taste rarely seems to be bought up in comment streams and discussions versus just, "too much of something or not enough of something else". Perhaps our leaning toward warm is what your describing as muddy? Bottom line - there's a million ways to make an amplifier demo and a million ways that people would seemingly prefer a demo to be made... If there were a surefire way of doing online sound demos, everyone would be doing it that way. But - it's sound, and it's DEEPLY subjective and also highly subject to a thousand outside listening variables after uploading and another thousand or so in the capture process. Despite doing our best, it's probably impossible to please everyone (or even a slight majority), but this is our process at the moment, subject to refinement and change as we learn more about what helps people make important musical instrument choices in a medium that attempts to stuff a dynamic and highly personalized three-dimensional audio experience into a linear, highly variable and barely two-dimensional tunnel of a listeners available listening tools and subjective preferences. Thanks for reading and genuinely interested in your thoughts and any examples you might share that reflect what you think a great demo sounds like. Hope this helps!
Now quickly send one to Doug Rappaport!
I rarely comment on RUclips videos, however - I’ve just bought the Filmore 50 combo. I play classic hard rock. Have Mesa Boogie produced their best amp since the MK IIC+ ? I think so 👍🏻😀
GREAT tone...i work with a F50 modded with an attenuator... and my next weapon is a F100 and Subway Rocket
Thanks for your products and quality!
My main amp is my f-100. It’s a beast of an amp. I redid the tolex in candy green. Amazing cleans and crunch. The high gain leaves a little to be desired but I only go there for leads.
I absolutely love this amp....
I'd like to see what the guys at #TPS would do with this. #thatpedalshow
rockstardr Me Too...!!!!
I’ve had three Mesa’s and they all had WAY too much uncontrollable gain. This Fillmore looks promising. Can’t wait to check it out
0:50 ooo that's Andy Timmons #1!!! Hope that means we get a demo with him playing!!
I bet thats his playing for the first minute or so...
My heart skipped a little when I saw it!
well done, boogie. well done.
Many thanks, Danny!
Absolutely love this amp. Mesa if you’re reading feel free to send me one and I’ll put it to good use 😉
And. When did they sent it to you.
I got mine, requesting the same, one week later ...
Lol
After a couple years I finally pulled the trigger. I’m an older guy, and although I’m not looking forward to moving it because of the weight, The tone I’ve been looking for is all over this thing!
If you ever do an update to this model there are 2 features I'd really like to see added: 1) Power attenuator like TC-100 and California Tweed have 2) Update to footswitch and footswitchable functions to include switchable Channel, Reverb, and FX Loop. (Instead of two separate footswitches for Channel and Reverb).
I hope its gonna be a mini head version of this amp
Wow, mr. Randall play ? Was always thinking he was only designing amp only ! :)
not in this video
That's Doug
I liked it enough to trade in a half-stack for one. My back is getting old, what can I say? When putting it through more intense paces at home, I found the MC90 speaker really harsh at higher volumes. Down on the floor with a plexiglass screen in front of it helped, but on a stand pointed at the back of my head was brutal. I swapped out the speaker for a Cannabis Rex, and it was a huge difference. I could actually turn the treble knob past noon and find some nicer tones. It doesn't project to the sides as well, but looking straight into the speaker is much better. The unfortunate aspect of the swap was that I had to remove the reverb tank to make space for the deeper speaker. But, my pedal board has a reverb that works well up front, or going into the effects loop. I've been experimenting with other speakers through an extension cab, without any super satisfying results. About the only thing I haven't tried is a Mesa Fillmore 75 speaker, since I don't have one. The experimentation will continue...I do recommend trying a Cannabis Rex, though. As the demo shows, proper mic selection, placement and post EQ makes this a very versatile amp with the MC90. Plenty of power, nicely designed and laid out. My back is much happier, my ears are still searching. Likely scenario is going back to the MC90 on floor isolators and plexiglass deflector. Seems to fill the room with a broader frequency spectrum in a band rehearsal/live gig scenario.
Kris Dilbeck (1st guy in the demo with the tele) should absolutely hands down demo every new “non-metal” amp Mesa puts out. Fer-realz. (JP should do the metal ones) Andy Timmons can demo whichever/whatever he wants. 😆
Great guy
Sory for other brands but this is the real rockn roll sound
I've got a Lonestar 100 loaded with EL-34's and a Mark V:25 so I'm just not in the market for this fine amp. Too bad, it sounds great. Mesa Rules~!
How do you think their cleans compare? Also a Lonestar owner here :D trying to justify keeping or selling ... need to play one lol
Of course this is subjective: The "Clean" pre-amp setting on the Mark V:25 is really great, but I run it on 'Fat'. Either way, give it some gas and this little Mesa head shines. The Lonestar Channel 1, 100 watt setting is loud, clean and beefy. Between them, if you can't get a great sound from guitar, cord and amp, you're not trying hard enough, in my opinion. I don't have any boost, distortion or overdrive pedals(all sold) because both Mesas fill the bill for me and I don't have physical room or the budget for a 3rd amp.
Right on, have you played the Fillmore 50? Curious to get your opinion on how it compares to the Lonestar 100W cleans... thanks for the feedback :D
There's not dealer around here that has them. But here's the deal...If I want 50 watts I switch the Lonestar down to 50 and run 'Tweed' mode. If I want 25 watts, I just crank the crap out of the Mark V:25. Plus I don't need two channels. If this was a single channel amp with less circuitry then I'd consider, but that's not what Mesa does, do they? For me, the Lonestar running 100 watts is the ultimate for the money for my style and volumes.
I've been trying to get a Fillmore 50 tone out of my Lonestar at 50W... get's most of the way there on it's own. I've actually come to realize the Lonestar shines by itself although it does take pedals very well... a circular journey but it's been a fun one. lol
Are the cleans comparable to the Lonestar or Express 5:50 plus? 6L6s . Seems like the clean from the express and the crunch from the express in the same amp which is what I’ve been after. Am I on the right track?
Easily comparable, Adam, and some havce been sayiong they like the Fillmore just as much or more. It doesn;t have quite the headroom of the Lone Star 100w (of course), but people have been saying they hear it as being a little more open. The gain channels are like a classic overdrive pedal in DRIVE, and HI is like vintage styled tweed/brit hybrid circuits for medium gain. Hope this helps and thanks for your interest!
How do you compare Mark V 25 to Fillmore? I got a chance to play it a little bit and it was so easy to dial in. I was able to get a compress sound. I got Mark V but now I want this. Should I
Really nice! The Home of Tone. And now… the 500 watt WalkAbout! 😉
C'mon Andy! Make it real, my friend. Make it real.
Gosh dang im scared to death of Mesa. I wanted one since I was a teen, got a MKV 90w that stayed in repair. It was deemed a "lemon", got a 2nd one completely free, same thing. Man I want to love them but I got burnt pretty bad b/c of the Marks. Was super excited to see this was vintage inspired, classic, etc, but they're still going to stuff 6 modes in it? It sounds good though and I hope you all keep inspiring artists
I’ve been flipping though Different demos and fuck this is probably the best amp yet. Hmmmmm this or a deluxe reverb?
So from looking at the photos of this amp on your website I see the footswitch only works for reverb on/ off ? so you can't switch in the middle of a song between clean and dirty with a footswitch correct ? hmmmm
Blues OD sounds really nice.
fantastic sound
For an amp that does what this one does, it's set at a VERY affordable price point.
Where did you see a price? I don't see one on this page or on their website...
Google.
Oh okay, I didn't realize this amp was already for sale. Thought I was watching a preview trailer.
nice amp just like all of the others they make, always the best of the best, maybe one day i will be able to afford one.........not!
Holy cow - that sounds GREAT! But I wish it had a sparkly clean channel. A one trick pony for Rockers only I guess ☹️
Thanks for the kind words, Tricko. I'm guessing the tiny bit of clip on the first playing example when digging in might suggest to you that it's not sparkling clean, but it's in there. Note that the Gain on that example is around 1:00. If you want the amp to be pristine clean, Gain around 11:00 with the Master high or all the way up is where that will happen. Anyway - I'd humbly suggest sparkling clean is easily in the amp. Thanks for watching and taking the time to commnent!
Omg sounds lovely.
Nice. Sounds like a more badass blackface bassman
love it !
sounds great~!
What’s it really doing that you can’t get from the clean channel on a Mark V?
Sounds really fresh. Just looked up the price, and i guess it is worth it, but practically very expensive if you compare to other tools like kemper
Sweet!
Im going to get this amp👍
Is there a way to tame the highs on this without adding an Eq to my pedal board? The thing is so bright..
0:50 Andy Timmons video coming SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON! #AndyTimmonsForTheWin
sounds great... I know you get what you pay for I just can't afford to get that yet :-)
fillmore or five 35 for classic rock?
Does anyone know what mic's they are using in this? Primarly the red one.
Does it djent tho?!
Leon Todd i guess it does!
🙄 Dude...lol.
Get out.
Mine is Biggest ..djentlemen, please!
No, it djoesn't... thankfully.
Really versatile amp - sounds great. Bet it’s pretty damn expensive sadly.
Cool amp,best company and I will never put my Mk4b head for sale..
I have the 50 watt head. Has anyone had problems with the reverb doing strangs, like not working, or the reverb on the right channel changing the volume, instead of reverb? Also have had both channels set at 12 o' clock on all knobs, but one side sounds compressed/muffled while the other is bright and clearer? HELP MEEE PLEASE!!!
Is it loud enough to play with a band though?
is a amazing line, but i don`t like the super dirty sound on it, but i want it, cleans and soft crunch sound amazing
Welcome to the next series of Mesa amps you'll be able to buy for $600 used on craiglist in about 5 years or so.
Btw nothing wrong with that at all, just an amazing deal on some hidden gems!
I don't get it... Where's the blanket on top of the speaker I can hear?
isn't this similar to the lone star classic with the 6l6's? (which i love and own btw). sounds great anyway, seems maybe like a lower wattage twin with a drive channel, which is fantastic. take my money please...
I love Mesas and really want to like this one, but it has this weird, rolled-off, muddy thing going on, like there's a blanket over it or the guitars all have their tone controls rolled down. I'll have to check one out in the wild and see what's really going on.
Hi Nate - Interesting that you find it/hearing it muddy/rolled-off. Can I ask what you're listening to the demo with? Headphones, earbuds, computer speakers, monitors? There';s no shortage of brightness and detail if needed with the Fillmore but curious what you're listening with. Thanks for your interest!
What are you talking about? That is a very articulate and crispy tone.
Nate its the Recipe!!!!
This is nothing more than a Fa•cade of something that it really isn't
Unsure about the Fillmore 50, but - with other Mesa amps... roll the bass down or increase treble and presence for more clarity. YMMV but it got rid of my Lonestar 2x12's wet blanket :)
There is a Big Sky reverb on the bridge and no Carl Martin compressor on the bridge, and that isn’t a G2 switcher, so not Andy’s rig.....
Well, they're trying to make it look like a Boogie/Fender crossbreed, and they're using 6L6s. If they put in EL34s I'd buy one.
Mesa evolved out of Fender amps that's where they started
Where did you shoot this vid?
Owned many boogies including a nomad and Lonestar and they are all the same...
ONE PLEASE
It helps that the guitarists sound awesome
Does "the home of tone" refers to what is sitting on the stool ? (see 1:18)
I being a player and a former Mesa authorized repair person jumped off there repair roster when there channel switching went to a JFET muting arrangement. Working on there amps turned in to gnat surgery. One thing that I will say in there favor is that there tech support dealing with other authorized techs I always found very favorable.
Goddamn. I’m a believer.