I Visited Malaysia's FAILED $100 Billion Dollar "Ghost City"
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I love these type of ghost story sushi please more ~~~
You are the most honest RUclipsr regarding the topic of the forest city that I have ever watched
Your cameraman suck bro ,stop shaking ffs
Yeah this place has been the centre of controversy worldwide.
- The housing prices is way too high for the average Malaysian, so the project was more likely for wealthy Chinese and Singaporean citizens.
- The city is built on reclaimed islands despite being located near land. And the land reclamation destroyed the nearby mangrove environments as well for no reason.
- Despite being created to rival Singapore's world hub status, it's really far from the already developed Iskandar Malaysia region in the south of Johor (Johor Bahru and the surrounding urban areas). Plus, even though there were plans to connect the Singapore Tuas 2nd Link border road to Forest City, it has yet to be completed, making the city incredibly isolated.
Reals
to be honest it’s priced quite average for even the average Malaysian but yeah with what you’ve said it’s not worth living there
imagine if you could walk from forest city to the checkpoint then to tuas mrt, that would actually make it viable to live in
the only winner is the sultan who became the overnight billionaire from 'selling' the land.
One of the main reasons why it didn't attract any Malaysians isn't because of the price but because it's just lacking in stuff and the whole "80% is filled" notion was a big lie.
The price in retrospect wasn't that expensive for Malaysians to own with it being relatively big but the main problem that threw Malaysians off is that there's close to no amenities in the area with no buses, no taxis and hard to Grab drivers to even enter the area.
Not only that, you got it right that it's isolated as hell from anything and even getting to JB alone from there needs at least a 30mins drive so it's damn out of the way to begin with. It makes Kulai look more like a actual bustling city.
Then comes the PRCs...
Back when the city was built, PRC and foreigners can actually buy the houses at the same rate as Malaysians which has been happening for decades and that wasn't just Forest City. However once the city was built and the developers stupidly announced that "we're building the city to attract more foreigners to buy!", it highlighted to the government about how stupid it was as the tax rates they offered to foreigners and locals for one apartment is the same and with many of these foreigners actually buying said apartments was not to help stimulate the local economy by staying there and increasing their purchasing power but to simply buy said houses to earn more money by flipping or renting it out indiscriminately, the government then reversed the order by imposing extra levies of at least a 60% increase for foreigners.
So let's say that if a 300sqft apartment costs 300k RM for locals and foreigners in 2002, it costs the same for locals in 2014 but 1.2mil for foreigners. It's still cheap for foreign investors if you could exchange rate but still, that's steep increase for non-locals thus many buyers who actually bought the unit being foreigners heard about the new ruling, heard about the extra charges they'll get and they bailed by either never paying for the full amount for the apartment that they bought or quickly asking for refunds for their downpayment.
Thus, yes, the "80%" sold was only on paper but post-transaction amount for the apartments in total is approx... 15-35% filled for all the blocks in the city?
as an introvert who hates crowds, this place seems like an ideal destination to visit on weekends. Clean and well maintained. Who knows, when the local population grows in the future, more ppl will move in.
if you buy/rent a house here and not visit often its decently likely random people are just gonna come take over your house. or ur gonna get robbed
@taboobunny9186: if you hate(strong words) then move to the moon where there are no crowds.🌑🌚
it's Najib project but after ge-14 Mahathir sabotage
It's Najib project but after ge-14 Mahathir sabotage
i think ur just anti-social man, being an introvert doesnt mean you hate being with people
Bro decided not to fire his cameramen is wild 💀
Omg yeah the camera shake is so real 😵💫
It's his girlfriend. No couchie couchie if you fire, bro.
@@milkncookie um who gonna tell them
@@milkncookie oh well that’s fair 😅
@@DaeSayuki
Saw them at Northpoint once, literally hugging each other. Breaking up almost impossible lah
This place is very good to wait out the zombie outbreaks. Can store a lot of supplies, including in the empty unts near your home. Few people to turn into zombies. Isolated
wth lol
He makes sense though. Imagine an actual zombie breakout happening. This could be a safe spot@@singing4hope
My name is Ramli Nasarudin. I am a survivor living in Forest City. I am broadcasting on all FM frequencies. I will be at the Forest City Beach everyday at mid-day, when the sun is highest in the sky. If you are out there... if anyone is out there... I can provide food, I can provide shelter, I can provide security. If there's anybody out there... anybody... please. You are not alone.
@@angryzombie8088 bro giving me flashbacks to walking dead. Forest city is gonna be fked just like any survivor camp lol
@@eirgo_s Its a quote from the movie I Am Legend with some changes. It have 2 endings & I love it both.
The entire Johor state got less than 2m population, they build a 1m city with reclaimed land where plenty of land is available.
Yeah Loh bro what a waste 😢
I thought it’s 4 million
@@Pieyo-1 with illegal immigrants, those cross states prob have.. but still.. 1m on islands...
should reclaim sg land not malaysia. what are they thinking
@@zerase84 sg gov not as easy as my mah... U never see their old adv, it didn't mention it is my in the first place. Can even get SG 'green card(PR)' if u buy the property.. it was so overly adv till a China friend ask me if there's such a development. I told her u pay my price, u get SG PR, u smart or I stupid?
Yup.. my dad was an architect who worked on some of the buildings and they actually rent out some of the rooms too.. everywhere is empty and full of insects plus my dad wasnt paid AT ALL from all the work he had put in..
I lived there for afew weeks recently bcs this area is cheap and my house was renovating
Nobody uses tuas link smr
dis gusting failed country 🤮🤮🤮
Think your dad not paid because the developer went bust, China property market is in a free fall now.
That's what msot of the developers do right. Seeing malaysia's property keep on having new developments, but most of it are purchased on investment basis.
Explore it at night, it must be eerie as hell. You could also get a much better idea of occupancy by the amount of lighted up windows.
what kind of occupany, gho...?
from experience living there it was a bit eerie, there might be 15-20 units a floor but only one or two lights on, on each floor or every other floor,some buildings might have only ten lights in a building that should have boasted 1,500 people
@@daeseongkim93 Wow, that must be a cool to see. It must give a pretty weird sensation.
i wonder what if the electricity suddenly stops at night sia... i think i will be very very scared as there are not many neighbours around, n from the look of it, its using movement detection lightings that makes it even more scary at night to go down for dinner or get back from dinner with frens. stay a few days, maybe will consider, move there a month or so, NO WAY!
would be fun to film a vlog at night but the buildings are ugly. what a waste.
at least its still maintained. if not maintained and guarded by security, the places will be severely vandalised and damaged.
this prove bangsa melayu so fail to handle corruption.. bangsa M bosku.. baaaangsa M.. Type M
@@makaupurple8242 china bribe culture..say go home
Still failed
@@makaupurple8242 you forgot that jho low is bangsa C who are part of this also....
I thought this was a Bangsa J project? 😂 What does Jho Low have to do with any of this? It's not Najib Razak and 1MDB
Honestly, I feel liked I'd absolutely love to come here to retire just because of how empty and peaceful it all seems. Idk, it's just giving a liminal space kinda vibe that I'm all for.
the lack of amenities is a turn off though.
No go to the countryside why would you wanna be lonely and depressed before u die
i met a few retirees there, singaporean, australians, americans, canadians, chinese. quite cheap place for a comfortable living if you dont need that much in amenities
@@ponyogd7708 is that not like...the same thing but with... corn?
@@daeseongkim93 sounds good enough leh. toilet, grocery shop, and mixue ice cream. enough to live out the rest of your days haha. Just need confirmation if the internet there is working
11:13 Singapore have BTO build to order , means got enough people buying then can be build . Forest City is BSH means Built see how .
lol
And Singapore company also involved in this BSH, albeit without specific mention😂
Singaporean become angel in own country. But when enter Malaysia, all hell broke loose. Racing, looting, breaking traffic rule, building empty building😂😂😂
@@dasgerbil5189 did you forget to take your medicines today?
😂😂😂.
Bfo - build free one. They buy property in china get a free one in forest city.
Honestly I think in the future maybe our govt could purchase this entire project and create a third crossing linking it back to SG. This would essentially provide millions of readily made homes to Singapore and the Malaysian and JB govt could benefit from having millions of Singaporeans and expats living in the Johor region, potential win-win situation as long as politics is stable.
That’s actually a really smart suggestion.
@@aayushdas19
Too bad our government is not smart.
@@asain3586because it wouldn't work. Seems like you also not very smart how?
@@user-zk6no3no3gcan you explain why it doesnt work? Im just curious
@@thaariqbinaziz2821 units are already owned by Chinese buyers
it would’ve been cool if you guys were able to interview some of the employees and residents living there!
I agree. In fact, to get a more balanced perspective it would be ESSENTIAL!
am a resident for over a year here, renting. It's a nice place for me, an introvert. Good security, good maintenance. Have grocery store, though I usually go to nearby places like Sunway Iskandar, Medini, Eco Botani, and Gelang Patah to do shopping, refuel. More and more people are moving in now. More convenience store and even mamak. The rental price is super affordable compared to places like Medini. 1 bedroom rental for housesharing = 1 Forest City unfurnished unit.
For residential buildings, more parking spaces are filled in. Most of us are local Malaysian working in the area, Iskandar Puteri, Tanjung Pelepas, or Singapore. Some foreigners as well, especially those who send their children to international schools in nearby areas. Can confirm more and more people moving in as the management had to outsource parcel delivery by opening a parcelhub coz the previously, lobby of the management office of one building area is too flooded by parcels and delivery boxes lol.
Feedback from an ex-staff from certain developer 🤭
The TRUTH is they had employed such tactic - 80 ~ 90% SOLD or few units left or last block left for grab.
Last time the staffs were told STICK all the stickers on the units and left a few rolls for grab.
After some units SOLD they would peel off some units to be AVAILABLE again. And their reasoning would be those buyers LOAN got DISAPPROVED 🤭
YOU need to choose your best unit and know how to negotiate. Example: I'm interested on this unit, if the customer loan has failed, then give me a ring...
The empty mall. Could be used in movies. Like Mall cop movies. As long as the make the stores and food court area.
My exact thoughts while exploring this entire complex
how abt used it to film LEFT4 DEAD movie version?? or Zombie movie!! or end of the world movies that there are no one around in mall, houses, etc, and is free i guess to use the location! MALAYSIA has its own filming location for horror drama and movie liao! Finally found a good usage for this ghost town!
@@SneakySushii maybe takes some time. But something that you, your family and friends can do. For the channel. If not to much work?
they can also shoot sweethome (the netflix movie) in this town to increase attraction 😂
@@luciferlouise389 all of these are gd idea u know? can help Malaysia movie industry to bloom! Can also film some Malay Pontianak movies too, or even killer crocodile movie! should really send this suggestions to Malaysia film association!
The city failed so bad, no one outside of Johor even knew about it. My dad is a professor in city planning and he genuinely forgot this place even existed.
Remembered coming here as a kid, I was so amazed on the grand layout and looking forward to see it in the future. Of course, as a kid after a few months I forgot about the place. Now looking back, it brings back memories and disappointment at the same time as it had given a sight of what future eco-city could look like. Thanks sushi for bringing up this content, without the video I would probably forget about this place completely.
the last time i saw you was 2021 during online schooling.I am now in colllege and glad that yt reccommeneded your video to me.EPIC VIDEO
i actually went there when it was christmas and there was alot of people and I even stayed for 3 days I didn't think it would be a ghost city there were a lot of cars and people there.There was also Christmas decorations everywhere it was very pretty
This tour is dope man. Have been seeing so many YT doing but SGP YT didn't do this content great to see u did and more Pov is being seen. Nice.
I went to this place for my university internship, and throughout my intern, I've learned a lot about the place and the environment. First of all, during the first week of internship, the whole place felt very refreshing (aka free of crowded cars), not used to it when I'm in KL. 2nd, this place is probably my go-to place to stay, not a very long time, like for a holiday, a week like that (IF there are more shop lots and mall, and...well, more people), the company covered my hostel fees, so I don't have to pay for rent.
Now I'm getting into the part where I genuinely felt unconformable during the intern, my supervisor sent me to some block to "check on things", whenever I turn a corner, I always have that though of "Is there someone there?", like it felt...creepy, I think a single block probably have only a handful of occupied residents that are actually living in them, most of them are bought by rich China people as a honeymoon, or a cheap retired place to stay when they retire.
Speaking of creepy, I live in a Block with the most people in it, I felt kinda relieve because I thought we're going to give somewhere where there are no neighbours. The block in front of our block is completely empty from top to bottom, and one day me and my roommate were hanging out on the balcony, and we saw the balcony light for the opposite block(maybe 1 floor above), starts to flicker, I was completely paranoid that night I can't sleep well. LOL, in the end I saw a person going to that block to fix it, case solve.
The Gallery place where guest come in and have fun on the water park, is the most people I've seen (during the weekend), and then the 2nd floor is for people to look at the estate, which have been sold and which haven't, (spoiler, most of them have sold out, weird right....)
I want to give a big shoutout to the KK MART, the only place I've been to all the time for food and drink during our lunch break. ALSO, 0:30 the restaurant finally opens.....wow
There used to be a mall in the office building, but that has sadly been closed during the c0vid pandemic...
at 10:56, I was impressed you found the mall, I've never allowed in the mall in case of something broken or smth, very impress seeing a mall with literally nothing in it
Since I do not have a car when I'm doing my intern, I had to rely on my roommate, who is one of the best roommate I could ever have. For the whole during of my staying, he's the one who drove me to nearby town Iskandar Puteri, Gelang Patah or Bukit Indah or eat dinner, (every single evening).
If you do not have any sort of transport in and out of the place, in this case Forest City, don't even think about having a grab to reach the area (speaking from experience). There is a bus but is kinda not reliable, you can make do if that's your only option. But coming back using Grab is easier since you're going from the and town onto the island. From Tuas (Malaysia side) to Forest City usually cost RM10-RM12, is not bad given it's going INTO a very quiet area where not many cars go in and out...
It's seems like many houses has been sold, & services are monthly paid, but not many staying there. People bought em maybe for investment, abnb, for temporary stay while in vacation or something prevent em to return to their houses. Coz the management still able to maintain this ghost city
Even worse than "50,000 people used to live here. Now, it's a ghost town" 🤔🤔
Chernobyl? Captain McMillan quote..😂😂😂
If there’s direct LRT from Forest City towards JB, rentals in Forest City definitely increase.
That's what Najib would do if he still in power It's his project after all
there is a bus service to tuas but hardly anyone takes the bus
Why would anyone want to live there when there are apartments nearby the city.
@@aimanhakimi7181 he is going to suck out some of the money. At least 40% and delays will be constant.
@@akeshshi9137 According to the video, it's apparently cheaper to rent a space in there than the main city.
As someone who live here for more than 6 months, i really like how quiet it is lol also there is actually a lot of people renting here, the outside parking always full. There is also security guard everywhere, so i do feel safe living here. And then, we got bus to tuas, so for malaysian who want to work in sg, it actually a really good choice to stay here.
How long it takes you to reach sg from there?
hello neighbours, same experience here. i love how calm and peaceful the place is. sometimes i get to enjoy the pool and gym alone as no one is using it except me.
Thanks for the upload I gonna go there for holidays!!! Seems like a perfect location for quiet relaxing time
This place could also be the safe place during an apocalypse. could definitely be a movie location like the movie "Concrete Utopia". All the state in the country is in a state of ruin, only this place in the country is still left standing.
The maintenance is pretty good, not a ghost city at all. I salute the gardener that maintained the Maze & balcony flower.
My definition of a ghost city is the New York city in the movie I Am Legend (2007).
Awesome insight to Forrest City! As a realtor in the Philippines, I was aware of the project.
And dude you're HILARIOUS!!! 🤣 New subscriber! 🙌
Sneaky making videos that are getting even more epic ✨
I lived here last year - it was equal parts lonely and pleasant, but also boring and inconvenient. The swimming pool was the best part, the rooms were a mixed bag in the condominiums, building access sucks, but the views from the balcony are peaceful, the bathroom locking feature in my condo was a literal self-locking trap, getting around was difficult, amenities were lacking, bathroom shower drain was shoddy, the building lobbies lacks proper ventilation, there was way too many staff than residents (every morning theres a literal troop patrol march in waves). There isn't much going for Forest City. We had maybe three convenience stores far spread out (like the South Asian convenience store you went to at Ataraxia was the closest for me), a Merrybrown, and an expensive Chinese restaurant (Meisan) in the Phoenix Hotel to eat it. The only time it seems active is on Friday and Saturday evenings when theres a small local street food stalls and people on the beach. No swimming on the beach though because of the saltwater crocodile signs, water was murky too because of the mangrove swamps. Staff would take pictures randomly finishing tasks to report to their Chinese employers, like after being picked up by the buggy system and dropping people off, they'd take pictures of the passengers on boarding and after being dropped off. Aside from the swimming pool to myself, seeing two monkeys and one monitor lizard was real interesting. I paid $1,200 USD a month on Airbnb for a two bedroom, one bath unit in Ataraxia and felt totally bipped when I found out it was around $200-300 for the same condo at the real estate office. Good thing you weren't there when the bridge into Forest City collapsed or the roving internet outages in the summer.
The Chinese hotpot restaurant you went to just opened had just opened towards the end of my stay last summer, and it was built within a month. It's changing slowly I guess in Forest City, for a long while there wasn't much on that level of the mall except the duty free stores that were just expensive liquor shops for visiting Singaporeans. The empty mall you went to was supposed to be a mall full of retail and restaurants, some of the stairwells had cardboard and fishing gear, I guess local Johor Bahru homeless or domestic laborers live there in the evening.
Quite a cogent review - thanks
$1,200 USD is insane, you definitely got fleeced lol.
@@SpitfireZ2310 my company eventually reimbursed me for the expense. but it was still a high out of pocket expense initially i had to pay upfront
Honestly this place got sabo by mahatir, once appointed PM he froze long term stay visa for foreigners especially Chinese, he focused so much on Johor till Singaporean chicken out
What do you mean by he focused so much on Johor till Singaporean chicken out ?
@@franciswong8578 his action caused the first crash of forest city and other properties in Johor, many Singaporean lost money. My guess is - he didn't want Johor to prosper under the Sultan as its investment were linked to Singapore and Chinese and not much of federal. Today Singapore and Johor will restarting the special economic zone, hopefully, will help with the ghost city
Sabo or not, this whole development is a massive dickhead shit show. The ones actually benefit from this are the top tier stakeholders. Not the locals, not the business owners in the area, not even the actual buyers of the apartments. What a fcking joke!
No one sabo. It's just not reasible. And it's an inter nation issue.
Mahathir sabo and the current government no balls to reverse the sabo.
that maplestory bgm.. bring back memory.
haven't play that for 10+ years
I am working at Tuas area and was wondering from afar if it's really THAT DEAD. Thanks to this, not really as bad as the media had portrayed. Thanks for the insight!
Excluding media exaggerations for increasing their own viewership...It's actually still quite bad though. Compared to most normal condo areas.
i live here, my first impression are the same as you. sure the occupancy rate is quite low, but the maintenance is top notch. the place looks oddly well kept thanks to Bangladeshi foreign workers.
If future MRT connects to forest city the price will definitely jump many times.
That's what Najib would do if he still in power It's his project after all
Question though is why, what is so special about this town that makes it need it routed to it.
Not really.. just see MRT projects in KV, many property price not increase due to overpriced with exception to flat/low cost apartment nearby MRT..
I like your style of video, the editing, colour and music, make it feel like a 1970s investigation report. 😅😅 Not sure if this was deliberate or not, but it’s very original 👍👏🏻💥💥🔥❤️🇬🇧
This looks like a tragically ambitious project. A whole place isolated from the main city areas.
The abandoned mall really did give some backrooms vibs considering how new yet empty the place is.
honestly surprised to see this on my recommended, but i like the commentary and video, a new place i learned of to get away to if i feel like it. (oh, and nice maplestory ost)
Thank you!!
16:22 this is actually really good for ur back
Bro I like your humour 😂 very relatable one leh !!
alhamdulillah bro been waiting for this guy to upload
what frustrates me more is that the amount of natural resources that was destroyed to build this city in a reclaimed land. Those woodlands, the habitat that was lost, the corals that was destroyed... for WHAT? to build an "artificial" forest? what a ludicrous concept.
Excellent comment. Absolutely agree with you. IMHO, the people who approved this project are rare morons, who must be sued for the environmental damage.
The maplestory music got me 😂 great video. I look forward to seeing more!
Thanks for sharing and review bro.
RM60 for 4 hours? This guy got scammed hard. Its only RM10 for 2 hours bro. 😂😂😂
Think he paid 200 for 4 hours bro
yea he said that he got it for RM 200 for 4 hrs
Do more content like this, interesting
U scored an excellent deal on the PMD bruh! That guy mixed up and misjudged the rental of the two PMDs, and your quick response really outsmarted him. 😅
sushiii! i'm not really a fan of ghost content but i'm glad you're doing well!
Sushii korkor single-handedly rising tourism rate with 1 vid let’s gooo
agreed, to be fair, must pay him agent fees
From what heard many of the units are owned. But the owner never moved to live there thats why they are empty
bro, this triggered a memory, when i was 10, my parents and their friend wanted to purchase one as investment property but my parents backed out as covid started. we even went to the hotel to stay for one night (i pulled an all nighter to watch bts fanfiction) and it was kinda depressing cus it just seemed like a lively place with no soul and most of the time i was on my phone, lol. def triggered an odd memory and thanks for that
Ghost city doesn’t mean abandoned. In China there are many similar cities, under utilised and over built for the small population. Those are also considered ghost cities.
But this is malaysia... and we dont have such underutilized properly built place
@@alvinlee3724 well you are looking at one in this video now. Also malacca gateway? Remember that one? All brought to you by…..you’ve guessed it, China.
Hey Sushi, I daily watch your videos and you will not probably see this but, you should go to the highland towers, there's alot of spirits spooking around there, and people don't really go there and I really recommend it if you really want some see some spooky dooky action. Really hope you get to this message! ❤
even when vlog got no ghost , video still fire🔥🔥🔥🔥
🙏🏻🙏🏻
from the video, i find it to be quite fun if i can do the PMD activities around the park or play at the beach. but they need to give SGrean a reason to go there, shopping centre? stayca hotel? massage etc.
Hello Sushi, I always feel intrigued by your amazing videos, hope you are doing fine. 😊 This place looks so amazing.
Tan Kin Lian collab when
I love how you look stoned af at 16:48 and the caption is like "and I'm simply seeing things"
Lmao!!! U put that Henesys FM Market BGM song when u enter the room !!! Haha nostalgic bro. 👊🏻 gotta sub to u on that
Interesting video 👍🏻 They do have grocery shops so can still buy basic food stuff
bro sushii can you come for a walk or cycle at the rail corridor and dairy farm
that's a nice hiking route!
@@SneakySushii :)
Who else in the world able to sell their sea water and get china to develop resident estate in the empty sea? Only johor 😂😂😂
Why sell land if we can sell sea?
As Malaysian it's most likely not worth it since the price on living for a day cost around RM1000 which is pretty high, if there is a vacation stay that cost that much the room need to be spacious and big to be honest. But since they made so much investment o the buildings, malls and playare it was high... But yea RM1000 for one day rent is considered very expensive
The fact that we get free videos on RUclips by Sneaky Sushii is truly a gift. 👍👍👍
Was wondering when your next upload would be! Guess you debunked the ghost of forest city
Them donuts were clean though~
No more ghost town after free buses to Singapore and return. Lots of rooms already rented out. People no need to rent beds in Singapore.The housing minister said that 70% sold.
Sure or not
@@Karg537 a RUclipsr said so for free buses. Go and enquire. New Mall next to me I enjoyed free buses to Lrt for a couple of years.
@@Karg537 a RUclipsr said so. Go and enquire
you should get 100 people and play catching or something there! idea ah for next video!
good honest tour review of this so-called ghost city.
Omg when you entered that empty mall, it literally looked like the backrooms😖
I'm a Singaporean and I must say that this forest city concept is pretty good. Unfortunately, it was not well thought through. But if successfully executed, it can be really nice. Location wise, not very ideal but i can understand why they chose that location. I think they tried to imitate Dubai's The Palm but did not research enough.
how can it be more resaerch well?
With enough businesses it could self sustain but no one is living there, why businesses want to open there😂
if those apartments are 70% SOLD , thats aint bad..
@@ulooq i am not sure if they are fully paid. Majority unoccupied for sure - who wants to stay there, it is not near cbd, no offices/ factories nearby, it seems to be designed to be a self encapsulated township but hinging on people moving in. No people, no businesses, no reason to stay.
@@ulooq You believe what the developers claim? 🤣 70% ownership is ridiculous. If the units were given away the ongoing costs would be crippling.
This kind mean of investment remind me of those Angola's Chinese buildings apts, first it had to be empty because it's relatively new and people doesn't know about it much, but as a time goes on, it become more crowded than it was once previously.
Tq for the info. Excellent video.
Glad you returned to making watchable content
this whole video is lowk giving the "main character realised everyone else on earth disappeared" vibes
Garden City had a great workable idea but didn't count on China/Malaysia government and policy changes. They even had the state Sultan invest into the project.
RM1000 for rent as a Malaysian is pretty expensive and you still have to take into account of the far distance everything is from Forest city , this is definitely not Singapore where public transport is readily and easily accessible , you will also need a car to go around.
Honestly if Forest City has an MRT link to JB or another crossing to Singapore the place would be filled with more people and more businesses and offices would pop up. Plus it can give a boost to Johor's economy if the government was smart. Too bad they're not that
Try rent with same amenities in KL... ya be surprised.
@@ulooq The average salary in KL is quite a bit higher than JB and also has a lot more opportunities available as compared to JB. At the same time KL has even better public transportation compared to JB. Even though considered as a economic hotspot , JB is no where near Penang or KL. Try and live in JB and you will understand , most if not all the shops are built to target Singaporeans , thus even higher prices where those working in JB wouldn't be able to afford such luxuries.
Dude... since u already in Malaysia... might as well check out Highland Towers man
He came for a day trip to Johor so thats not really in his plan
He’s hilarious 😂 I genuinely enjoyed watching this. Fascinating with a side of humour ❤😂
I visited Johor in 2019 but unfortunately at that time I didn't knew about this project. Interesting video!
So as usual, Malaysia is soooo clean…but just added with a big poop on the floor. lol..😂
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clean??? LOL…malasia full of garbage 🤮🤮🤮
Chinese say shit is gold, :p you found gold.
@@user-hg2em7jw6q😂😂😂
Damn , was waiting for a new vid
Need more videos hehe 😝
i lowkey wanna keep the status quo that its "SO GHOSTLY YOU DONT WANNA COME" so that i have my own local, secluded area that i love to hang out at just to myself, just long enough until its properly run down or not allow ppl in anymore.
Any development with 70% focus on investor purchase is going to flip flop. It happened to Docklands, Melbourne when the majority of the buyer were Chinese investor. They keep the apartment empty instead of renting out to avoid annual and capital gain taxes. In the end, most of the shops ware empty, even Melbourne eye (Ferris wheel) and Costco decide to pack up and go.
U went on a weekend, so this "crowd" is nothing to shout about. I went there last month on a weekday, and the people were 10-15% of what's shown here. Only a kopi shop was opened. Indeed, a ghost town considering the massive development already bult.
People aside, i am impressed by the way PRC build infrastructure. Less than 8 years to see all this rising from open sea. It makes me really worried though. Such a huge development on reclaimed land with just about 1-2 years of stabilization?
Not sure if I detected sarcasm there. You've heard of China's tofu dreg construction, right? Maybe we wait a few more years and see if stuff starts falling apart all on its own. Luckily not many people inside, no structural strain, nothing falls off or breaks for decades. Don't know whether to laugh or cry if I'm the developer or apartment owner. 🤣
@@jdshl8423 : Maybe we wait a few more years and see if stuff starts falling apart all on its own.
Forest City - 2016
This year is 2024 and he visited in 2024.
Throw away your iPhone as it is a toufu phone that made in China.
You are not educated in Science or Engineering and don't know anything about Infrastructure and Civil Engineering which is an old technology. Have you saw few hundreds years buildings in Europe and China?
Get yourself educated.
@@jdshl8423 - You've heard of China's tofu dreg construction, right? -
You've never been to China and you rely on YT liars for your information about there. So of course you have a biased view.
It will start sinking in a few years same happened in Dubai . This project is faulty
@@davidemelia6296 , we all have biases, just like yours requires you to defend China and call everybody who says otherwise a liar. Whether they are YT liars or not, having seen quite so many videos and reports about collapsing buildings and falling facades, I find it hard to believe they are all fabricated. As far as I am concerned, there is no smoke without fire. The same goes for China's ghost cities. And your argument is fallacious, because I've never been to the Middle East either, and I see videos on YT about it, so the conflict there must all be lies too, by your standard. Regardless, we're all having a good many laughs at China's expense.
Alice in Borderland sushi version 🤓🤓☝️☝️
Just visit there end of last year and the waterpark is full! Can't even find under a shade spot for my family😂. It's good for family with kids to play near the beach & kids waterpark. Not totally a ghost town. If you wanna go for the waterpark & beach, try to avoid Malaysia school holidays
70percent of the property built are sold. That’s what matters to the developers
i realise you always use maple story bgm
The ongoing collapse in China's real estate market have left millions of uncompleted housing in both the mainland and overseas for the foreseeable future.
Sushi gor should try out Urban Ex frfr would be a nice balance from the ghost hunting
I Learned new info about this place. Which specific area did you rent the escooter?😊
I went there before no one and very dark nice view of tuas from the beach
Went back to sg after going there
just imagine this place, if instead of connected to Johor it was connected to Singapore, better if singapore extend MRT to forest city(SG).
Immediately different result
i think there is still hope. may be too high a price for locals, but you need to market the international community. Big investments nice buildings it doenst havebto be empty forever. Love from Ph🇵🇭
It depends on when the content is filmed. Post pandemic in 2022, there probably wouldn't be a soul. And as you've mentioned, word is getting around. A great afternoon with the kids with no jam, tons of parking, relatively clean and empty beach is a very attractive proposition which explains the increasing sign of life particularly during the weekends.
The construction workers are all from China and not all of them went home after completion and now their mainland behaviour are popping out from videos exposing them thinking nobody would think they're illegals by looking chinese like locals. We all Malaysians can tell the difference just by their actions.
BS laa wei.. ko mandor kerja sana ker. LoL.
fire your camerman
Just like many Chinese construction, it is essentially Chinese Government investments in overseas countries made/sold to be of local interest and benefit.
No private business can afford to build, maintain and not have the income (people renting and moving in) to support a project of this magnitude for a few months, let alone a year or years!
This is clearly continously funded and maintained by money that is clearly sourced elsewhere and not from the project or how these kinds of projects are normally/should be funded.
So I'm an expat in Singapore, and this video actually got me curious. Now I want to have a staycation there!