My New 2022 Indian Chief Dark Horse!
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Hi, everyone!
In this video I introduce you to my new Chief Dark Horse! I only have about 40-50 miles on it so far, so my initial thoughts are all I really go over here. I will put out another video later on once I put more miles down and have a better foundation for my opinions on it.
Indian Forward Ram Air Cleaner, Freedom Stage 2 Exhaust, Stage 2 Cams and Fuel Throttle Kit, Braided Brake Lines and Upgraded Brake Package, Fox Rear Twin Bank Shocks & Showa Front Shock Internals with Preload adjustment, Keep the Mid Controls for Better Cornering Handling, Custom Front Highway Bar from Dean Speed(which is a Great Foot Rest for Highway Riding let Alone Protection), Full Tune & Map & Dyno and that's When that 1890cc Twin Turns into a Monster Harley Killer.
Ordered mine almost 2 months ago, hopowill be here by the end of the month. I’ve already read the manual and watched a few hours of reviews. Can’t wait! I did order the forward controls, apes, heal shifter and highway bars. First Mods will be mirrors and exhaust!
Awesome! I did the same exact thing. I watched probably every single review available for the bike before I went out and ordered mine. I got WAY too hyped and the wait was incredibly painful. Sounds like you have the whole thing sorted with all sorts of sweet accessories. I hope your bike comes in soon!!
They have a kit to move your foot controls a couple of inches forward.
I have the forward controls put on now and they are fairly comfortable! I maybe would have considered the kit if I didn't grab the forwards.
Give it a while with the mids before you change them up. I didn't like them at first either but now I love them. I am thinking about doing something with the handlebars but I'm not sure. I'll tell you that Dean Speed makes a fantastic exhaust for it.
Hmm, that's fair. I think I'd like highway pegs at the very least to stretch out a bit. Good point, though. It's possible I might get used to the mids. I have another 2 months before I can change out anything, so we'll see how I get along with the current setup.
@@teed412 You know I was thinking about getting them too, or maybe some highway bars.
Congratulations on the Gorgeous Indian Chief DH, enjoy the many journeys!
Thanks!
i can't wait for my bobber as well.... currently have a sportster
I hope you enjoy the bobber! Hope it comes soon!
Beautiful bike,in my opinion best looking model bike made today.I own Challenger and has been great motorcycle and also have owned scout bobber. Enjoy and be safe
The throttle moves forward like that to cancel the cruise control without having to push the button
Ahhh, that's fair. I still have a lot to discover on this bike still. I need to experiment some more! Haha
The front wheel design is stunning. !
Nice impression! Not available in the Netherlands yet. So i will keep up with your videos!
Thanks! I hope you're able to get your hands on one soon, they're a fun ride!
And by the way, I called Vance and Hines and they said they have no plans to make an exhaust for this bike so think seriously about Dean Speed
Hey, Scott. Thanks for letting me know! I'll have to re-evaluate what exhaust I want to get then.
@@teed412 Listen to this on a good sound system, you'll get the idea
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Congrats.Really happy for you.I still ride my trusty 1992 Nighthawk 750 like old wife every time I try to get something else my NH protests (I have not done anything wrong why ditch me" and now I am relegated watching other people's purchases and your bike is on my list
Thanks! I love that you still have your bike after all that time. I am hoping the Chief will be like that for me. I love the idea of getting one bike and holding onto it for a long time. I wanted that for my Sporty but I couldn't rationalize keeping two cruisers with my current situation in life.
Just ordered my dark horse on Monday, hope it comes soon
Awesome! I hope you enjoy it! It did take a while for mine to come in, but I think it's worth the wait.
Subscribing cause I'm a fan of the burg.
Liked the content, keep it up and frequent. :)
Thanks! I might have to leak into different kind of content over the winter, but I'll definitely keep uploading stuff that I find interesting!
The exhaust leaves a lot to be desired, does Indian make a motorcycle with handle bars that you don’t have to reach so far forward
Hi, George!
Definitely. Thankfully there are a lot of aftermarket exhausts coming out!
The Super Chief Limited and Super Chief both have the cruiser handlebars, while the Chief Bobber has a pair of smaller ape hangers. The Sport Chief has the same bars as my bike in this video, but with added risers that could be made to bring the bars closer to you.
Hope this helps!
Im waiting for my Chief DH as well! Congrats on yours :) Rolling the throttle forward cancels cruise control fyi
Thanks! I hope yours comes in soon! I didn't know that actually, I've just been tapping the back brake a little to cancel it out. Good to know!
Love it man! I hope to order mine soon. I want the exact same one.
Congratulations man, I'm expecting mine by next week hopefully!
Awesome! I hope yours comes in on time! I have no doubt you will enjoy the bike.
Beautiful bike bro, thanks for the video. I’m looking at a chief dark horse, hows the bike holding up? Any issues with the battery? Anything to look out for?
Thanks! I appreciate you checking out my video! The bike is holding up well. Other than the recent recalls and smaller issues with the forks and other small pieces, there hasn't been many major issues aside from the Fuel Pump recall. I haven't had any issues with my battery yet, thankfully. I heard some others are having issues with their batteries, but mine is holding up well.
I think the biggest thing to look out for at the moment would be the front fork clanking, any fuel pump recalls on the bike you get (could be solved with new bikes coming out) and maybe the headlight housing for any condensation or fog buildup inside.
I would also try to sit on a Super Chief, just to see the difference the forward controls/cruiser bars make. I didn't think it would be a big deal, but they were something I immediately replaced as I felt very cramped on the bike. I am 5'6 with a 30 inch inseam and I even felt the bike was cramped up with mid controls and the drag bars.
Hope this helps! If you do get a Chief, I hope you enjoy it!
@@teed412 Dude you pretty much answered all of the questions I had, thank you for the detailed feedback. I'm looking at the Chief DH and the Chief Bobber DH, feels like the Chief Bobber DH has a more comfortable riding position with the mini apes and forward controls I believe. Indian is charging about 2G more (feels unjustified) for a different set of wheels/ tires, handlebars and controls (I like the wheels on the Chief DH a lot more). Also it would be nice if they provided the awesome digital gauge you have, on the non-Dark Horse models too (market strategy I take it). That digital gauge with nav and the tech is a must. I was looking at the Scout Bobber originally, this is a beautiful bike as well, but a bit on the smaller side. Not a bad warranty, 2 years unlimited miles. I haven't found any concrete numbers for extended warranty's other than "Price varies by model and term length". In my opinion these are some of the best looking bikes in the game.
Here is a curveball, unfortunately I can only get one bike right now. So I've been doing quiet a bit of research trying to find an all rounder. So... I am looking at the GS 1250 (not GSA) and the Honda Africa Twin Adventure ES. The ADV bikes are of course a whole different category, but they are built very well with a lot of tech (including apple car play on the Honda) and durability (purpose built of course). Out of these 2 I think I would go with the Honda, much more budget friendly. Although it seems impossible to find it out here in VA.
I like your upgrades on the bike, that seat looks pretty comfortable. Seems like there's some lower back support as well. What type of helmet are you using and which camera/ mic setup? The videos look great and audio quality is pretty awesome.
@@THELASTRID3R No worries! Glad I could help.
Yeah, I agree. I like the DH rims more than the spoked option on the other models. Replacing the handlebars recently cost me about $700, so keep that in mind if you plan on getting the base model and want to switch them out.
The Ride Command system is pretty good. The navigation is awesome, I just wish it came with a few more perks. At the moment, I am unable to tell it to avoid toll roads and the like, so that is a short-coming there. Not sure if maybe I am just dumb and haven't found the option yet or not haha.
As far as warranty stuff goes, I've got until this upcoming October before it runs out. I'm hoping I can rip through some heavy miles this year and work out any kinks hiding in the background.
I agree. I like the aesthetic of the Indian motorcycles that are out right now. I enjoy Harley's appearances too, but ultimately I chose the Chief haha.
I would love to ride an Africa Twin, but they sit so high I don't think I would ever be comfortable riding them haha.
Thanks! I think the upgrades I've made so far I have generally been happy with. I've had a few comments on how the seat looks dorky or doesn't fit the aesthetic of the bike, but I think it looks fine. It definitely supports my lower back. As I have an office job, I sit on my butt all day... so I'm progressively developing stiff back issues. The seat helps keep my back in check while I ride, so I'm happy with it.
I'm glad the audio and everything is good. I feel like I have been lucky with that. Right now I use a Bell Qualifier helmet that was about $110 or so from Amazon. I use a GoPro Hero 8 with a microphone adapter. I think Blockhead (other more popular motovlogger) has a video on a setup that I pretty much followed to the letter.
@@teed412 nice thank you for all of info! It’s awesome that bikers like yourself are so helpful to others, it’s such a great community!
I stopped by my local Indian dealer today (VA), they have a 23 Black Chief DH identical to yours. Man I’ve never seen a more beautiful bike in person lol! This thing looks so diesel in real life! The sales guy was pretty cool. He said he can get me out the door for $20,100 and if I wanted forward controls and flood boards - $20,700 installed (they don’t have any handlebars in stock). I know this will vary from state to state in terms of taxes and such. They are charging $1200 for freight and a $300 dealer set up fee in that out the door figure. The freight seems super high to me. Basically $19,000 plus taxes and fees for a total of $20,100.. I’m not asking your numbers, but does this seems reasonable or somewhat comparable to your experience? I want to make sure that I’m not getting ripped off..
Lastly, they said $1500 for a 5 year extended warranty with unlimited miles (not sure if there is roadside assistance), this is in addition to the 2 years (total 7 years). Can be purchased anytime before the original 2 years expire.
Again, thank you for the knowledge transfers and bringing so much value to the biker community!
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@@THELASTRID3R No problem! Glad I could help haha.
Sweet! I watched the videos you linked. Looks good! I know there was a point in time where they were shipping the Chief Dark Horse out without the black exhaust, which was pretty disappointing to see. Glad you were able to see one the way it's meant to be.
That pricing sounds about right. I don't mind saying how much I paid for my bike. Here's a breakdown of exactly how much I paid. Keep in mind that I bought this in 2021, so prices may have changed a little.
Cost of Bike - $16,999
Freight and Prep - $1,800
Doc and Admin Fees - $175
Sales Tax - $980.98
Total - $19,954.98
I put a deposit down, which was $500, because I had to order it ahead of time. I also traded in my 2013 Sportster 1200 for $4785. I know I could've got more selling it privately, but I didn't want to deal with that hassle.
I also got charged $2.00 for a tire tax/disposal fee, whatever that is.
I also got charged $84.00 for License/Registration/Title Fees.
So overall, after putting all that money together, I bought the Chief for $14,755.98 with my trade-in and deposit taken into account.
It seems you are getting a decent deal. I would try to work out how much the controls are worth, and see what labor rates they are charging. It should hopefully equal out to what price they are telling you. Without doing the math, it sounds pretty accurate to me.
I had no idea about the extended warranty. I may have to ask my local dealer about that. Could be beneficial as I'm a little wary about how little miles I have on the bike and what could possibly creep up in the next 2 or so years.
I personally use AAA for all roadside stuff. I upgraded to the plan that allows motorcycle towing, which is a bit pricey but you never know when you may need it.
No problem at all! I'm glad I was able to help in your motorcycle journey!
Congrats, awesome bike 👍, financially I'll be ready in 2023. I'll be honest last time I rode was 44 yrs ago. So I consider myself a nu rider. When it's time it'll stage 2, with 2 into 1 exhaust. Ride Safe Be Safe. Do you know how many gallons per mile?
Thanks! I'm not 100% sure on the mileage per gallon but from what Indian's site says it's about 40mpg I think.
Congrats on the new bike. What made you change from the sportster?
Hey, humanentity2214! I decided to get the Chief as I was looking at getting a Harley Softail. Ultimately, Harley discontinued the model I wanted, so I expanded my horizons and decided on the Chief. Took a leap of faith, as I knew pretty much nothing about the Indian brand or whether or not their new Chief lineup would prove to be a reliable and fun ride. So far, it has been great.
@@teed412 I hear you. I am not very comfortable with my 2013 Sportster 1200 custom xl at highway speeds. I'm trying to get used to an the noise, vibration and wind buffeting but I don't see myself doing inter state rides on it. I do love it but I'm also testing different bikes. I did the Indian bobber recently and it was good but I'm addicted to the feel of a Harley Sportster. Good luck on your Indian adventures. Great channel 👍
Hope you don't mind me asking but how much was your trade in for your Sportster?
I don't mind at all. If I remember correctly, it was $4500 exactly. I paid $7000 for it 2 years prior.
@@teed412 thank you. That's a $1000 more than what I'm being offered
Question for u,did u have to pay for surcharge, delivery and logistics,or any dealer mark up??? Thanks.
Hey there! I will have to dig out the bill of sale I have laying around. I'll make a video on that for you! I've been planning on making it but just haven't gotten around to it yet. Hopefully I'll have something soon!
How long did it take for yours to come in after u ordered it ?
Hey there! I waited almost 15 weeks exactly from the day I ordered it.
Nice ride bro. Enjoy scootin'.
Thanks!
Can’t believe u bought the bike doesnt sound like you don’t like much on it. Especially if u hate the way u sit right off the bat
Riding ergonomics can always be changed. I already switched out the foot controls and it feels 10x better.
unless ur taller then 5'11 i dont think u needs the forwards... and u know anyone in the uk u might be able to get ur hands on white blinkers front n back. the "play" ur talking about is to turn off the cruise control pushing it forward hitting hte brake or clutch turns off cruise control.. imo the all indians ride better in sport mode..
I was considering some highway pegs or something. My knees don't hold up well with the mid control position after about 30-40 minutes of riding.
I still have to get it into sport mode. I keep forgetting the bike has ride modes since I'm so used to my Sportster... hah.
If you push it back, it cancels cruise control.
Ahh, okay. I'll have to give that a shot next time I'm out on the highway. Thanks!
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Very nice bike! Congrats!
Thanks! I have been enjoying it so far. Got about 200 miles on it now.
How do you find the engine push rod noise? Too loud? Found the soft tails to be so nice and quiet but the chief the better looking bike - so puzzled - want to go for the chief but was quite loud for my taste due to the air cooling i suppose. What about yours
I do notice some noise from the engine. I think I'm used to it considering I had a 2013 Sportster 1200 before. Constantly hearing the "sewing machine" noise from the Evo motor got me used to the engine noise I suppose haha. It hasn't bothered me yet, but we'll see after I put some more miles down. I figured an aftermarket exhaust might help hide some of that noise too.
@@teed412 in that case it won’t bother you - some even fanc y it. Thing is I’m here in Germany - loud exhausts aren’t quite legal over here - I guess I’ll have to figure something out - maybe simple ear plugs hah
Ahh, fair enough! Yeah, I wear earplugs every time I ride no matter where I'm going. I can still hear it but not as much as my GoPro picks up in my videos.
@@teed412 yeah GoPro is overly sensitive re engine noises - I noticed that as well on my current bike. Anyways - the chief is the most badass looking cruiser out there so I’m gonna get one once I can order hha
Any after market bars yet?
I’ll be changing mine too but I’d be nice to be slightly different
Cheers from Australia
Hey, thanks for checking out my video!
I think there are a few places that already offer aftermarket bars. I've seen a lot about Dean Speed's aftermarket parts. I think they are one of the first companies to embrace the aftermarket Chief scene. I've been watching RevZilla like a hawk for any parts for the Chief but couldn't seem to find anything until just now. If you search RevZilla for handlebars fitting the Chief, I see a few options from Biltwell already. I think it is just a matter of time before more aftermarket companies come out with stuff for the Chief.
It seems most of the bars I am able to find on RevZilla are labeled as "Universal Fit." I wager there will be dedicated bars eventually but I don't see anything specifically for the Chief yet.
What's the measurements from bolt to bolt on the rear fender? I want a custom sissy bar and not the one from Indian
Hi, Ariel.
I'm not sure if I measured it correctly, but from what I can tell it is 9 and 3/4 inches from bolt to bolt. I measured diagonally as they are slightly offset. I think a safe bet would be about 10 inches, though.
@@teed412 thank you!
No problem!
Nothing like seeing double digit mileage on a new vehicle!
Absolutely! Brand spankin' new.
I just ordered my Indian chief Darkhorse a few days ago. The dealer says it should be in by early December. I ordered mine with mini ape handlebars. The drag bar looks uncomfortable. What's going to be your first modification/accessory?
Awesome! I hope yours comes in on time!
My first modification will likely be both the handlebars and pegs at the same time. I have them ordered through my dealer but they are on back-order until late December. As for what kind of bars, I'll be getting the cruiser set.
Good luck! Mine was ordered in May and latest estimation on delivery is December.
@@nuts4xdm that's awful! which chief did you order? And did you order it with any accessories? If that's the case I'll probably get mine sometime in June. I really hope not. lol
@@whitebeltchamp1 I ordered the Chief Dark Horse in Alumina Jade Smoke. I added highway bars and mid-rise windscreen. Thinking about switching to front controls, but I’m waiting to take delivery before deciding.
Update: December 11th and I’m still waiting.
What made you leave the Harley brand name for Indian?
That's a great question! I feel like this is a great video topic! It actually has to do with a couple factors. I will make a full video on this because I don't think I could do it justice through a RUclips comment.
However, to answer your question with a brief statement so you're not left hanging as to my general thoughts; Technology, performance, and ease of maintenance. I know it is a touchy subject for some, the Harley vs. Indian scene, but I really like what the Chief has to offer. I hope this is an okay answer for now! I will try to get that video out soon!
@@teed412 That's a great answer! My exact thoughts too. If I were to choose an Indian over a Harley it would also be those three points you mentioned.
Nice ride
Thanks!
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Congratulations for this sick bike :)
Thanks! It has been a blast so far!
Just took delivery on mine yesterday. I was taken aback by the change in exhaust as I was expecting all black. If you go to this page ... www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/chief-motorcycles/ ... the older marketing photos show the original black, but scroll down and you'll see that the model options have changed the pipes to half chrome / half black.
Hi, James.
I see what you mean. I wonder what made them switch it out like that. Maybe it's cheaper, or it's faster to put it out with chrome instead of blacked out.
I wager Indian has lost some sales due to the incredibly long time it takes for the bikes to be shipped out and delivered.