@@MiXVoy that has literally nothing to do with the actual movie tho. It was embarrassing for everyone involved and apparently bale was right, but he was blaming the wrong guy and he apologized and everything on set after. Now Bale won't touch terminator ever again. Thanks a lot. Its just weird that at prescreenings, early reviewers said it was fantastic. Then after release all you heard was mixed or bad things. I loved watching it and not knowing what exactly would happen which is odd for a prequel.
@@carlos.5290 Cuz it's boring. That's why Cameron never wanted to do it. Yeah getting short glimpses here and there is cool and all but for a whole movie? That's like wanting to make a movie that's just the opening of Saving Private Ryan over and over again
@@Bluecheese1400 that’s bullshit. The war between man and machine is the entire point of the franchise. They just kept going back to the time travel shit over and over and over and over and over again like the fucking energizer bunny. The one time they try something new, dumb ass audiences hate it and want the tired old time travel trope again.
@@Bluecheese1400 So instead they rehash the same exact plot over and over again, and drive the franchise into the ground.... GoOd ChOiCe 🤦♂. Terminator started with the cyborg being sent to the past... But it was ALWAYS about humanity's war against the machines. The narrow minded view you have is the same view those that took over the franchise have, and look at the films now. Salvation could've been the beginning of exactly that- the series salvation. Instead, the clowns in charge took your view and ran it into the ground. Bravo.
Good catch, I personally appreciate it. High profile individuals purposefully augment their vocal tone to achieve an outward perception. Bale's Batman and John Connor are perfect examples of a real world interpretation of that idea from a method actor. Why people have an issue with it or criticize Bale will never cease to baffle me.
Both Bruce and John fight for humanity. But Bruce is too cowardly, John knows how to truly fight! We aren’t pacifists or machines, we are humans and we are better than that!!!
This speech shows how John rallied the Resistance to victory. He gave the soldiers fighting not just the strategy and tactics to win, but the cause of their fellow man and the hope of something more than survival. We see hints that parts of humanity remained selfish and only cared about making it past the next ten minutes. Not just by stealing from each other, but apathy towards people without an immediate value. Command believed treating the war like an equation, where people were just things to be counted and used the same as bullets, guns, and vehicles would help them make the necessary sacrifices to win against and unprecedented enemy. But John recognized that sacrifice is only really worth it when you recognize the value of what you're giving up. People are willing to fight past their limits when they have something greater than themselves to fight for. Even if it's just the person next to them. Treating each soldier and civilian as invaluable made people willing to die for John, because they knew he would do the same for them in a heartbeat.
This scene is so powerful. The world follows him because they believe in him, justifying everything Sarah did to prepare him. And he uses her memory to rally them.
@@dannythomas417 Nobody is gonna argue that... But doing it over and over again is exactly how the franchise got run into the ground. Salvation could've changed that.
I like Christian Bale as John Connor although for the People who Complain about him just say he sounding a bit like Batman here since he was also doing the Dark Knight Trilogy at this Time! outside of that I though he did a Damn Good Job John Connor look at him when he yelling at the Commander "IF WE STAY THE COURSE WE ARE DEAD! WE ARE ALL DEAD!"
If this movie had more war scenes similar to what we've seen in the previous movies, fans would have enjoyed it more. There were almost no scenes were we see the machines attacking humans, except the harvester and moto-terminators. I don't know if the HK-Tank were in production in 2018, but the T-1 could have been the ''HK-Tank'' during that time periode, along with the T-600 terminators finding humans and exterminating them. HK-Aerials and Aerostats should have been everywhere. Instead, we got to see humans have the upper hand, like this scene here. MGM had some great ideas for the movie, but executed them poorly.
You have to think about it. The game has changed, the time has changed the future is not the same as the original. And yes it shouldve had some original ideas. But the past has been mangled with so the future has to be different
Yeah well ONE, all the future scenes from previous movies were during a climactic battle and this doesn't take place during one. John infiltrates the base before the calvary gets there and blows it up. It's pretty realistic. TWO it's pretty dumb marching machines out there with no cover like it's the Revolutionary War. THREE it's earlier in the war so the machines probably haven't manufactured armies yet
Joe Whitehead well his opinion isn't too meaningful to Me. Genesis maybe a good film but it kind of fucks up the story and throws a wrench in it. It was unnecessary. A film in the post apocalypse was a terminator film most is us were waiting for and I don't think this did a bad job. Genesis was so forced and rushed and turned out corny asf. Like the whole thing seemed like it was made just because people wanted to more robot Arnold.
JakesNation98 I understand you feel that way. But I feel like Cameron’s opinion should mean something, since the idea for the terminator was originally his
Hey show some respect bro, if you never got a chance to see the old one. Then your comment confused to the whole area. This is RUclips, not some toxicity bro. If you have don't know what's going on. Then your the target. No toxicity is among us son nice try.
@@joewhitehead3 yeah I remember it getting soooo much hate when it first came out, I think the newer movies are so bad it made this atleast somewhat enjoyable 😂
If someone needs to be Reprised again for John Connor(For In Terminator Dark Fate or Terminator 7) I'm putting my Poker Chips down for Bale because like my Last Comment Christian Bale did a Damn Good Job as John Connor it seems to be there always a New Actor for John Connor but like I said if anyone needs another Outing as John Connor I want it to be Christian Bale
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After Dark Fate, it seems to be clear that Salvation deserves more positive evaluations.
Well, the leaked Bale Meltdown gave Salvation major shit points.
@@MiXVoy that has literally nothing to do with the actual movie tho. It was embarrassing for everyone involved and apparently bale was right, but he was blaming the wrong guy and he apologized and everything on set after. Now Bale won't touch terminator ever again. Thanks a lot. Its just weird that at prescreenings, early reviewers said it was fantastic. Then after release all you heard was mixed or bad things. I loved watching it and not knowing what exactly would happen which is odd for a prequel.
@Oddball idk Terminator 2 was pretty good. Salvation was cool and made sense. I liked how they showed us how he got those scars lol
I liked Dark Fate
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Christian Bale did a way better John Connor speech than Jason Clarke.
Why is so difficult to make a film like the visions of Rease in T1?
@@carlos.5290 Cuz it's boring. That's why Cameron never wanted to do it. Yeah getting short glimpses here and there is cool and all but for a whole movie? That's like wanting to make a movie that's just the opening of Saving Private Ryan over and over again
Radb707
Yeah cause terminator is based on a cyborg sent from the future to kill a person, not future war.
@@Bluecheese1400 that’s bullshit. The war between man and machine is the entire point of the franchise. They just kept going back to the time travel shit over and over and over and over and over again like the fucking energizer bunny. The one time they try something new, dumb ass audiences hate it and want the tired old time travel trope again.
@@Bluecheese1400 So instead they rehash the same exact plot over and over again, and drive the franchise into the ground.... GoOd ChOiCe 🤦♂.
Terminator started with the cyborg being sent to the past... But it was ALWAYS about humanity's war against the machines. The narrow minded view you have is the same view those that took over the franchise have, and look at the films now. Salvation could've been the beginning of exactly that- the series salvation. Instead, the clowns in charge took your view and ran it into the ground. Bravo.
Bale still has that Batman voice when speaking as John Connor.
Good catch, I personally appreciate it. High profile individuals purposefully augment their vocal tone to achieve an outward perception. Bale's Batman and John Connor are perfect examples of a real world interpretation of that idea from a method actor. Why people have an issue with it or criticize Bale will never cease to baffle me.
Both Bruce and John fight for humanity. But Bruce is too cowardly, John knows how to truly fight! We aren’t pacifists or machines, we are humans and we are better than that!!!
He had just finished working on The Dark Knight.
Best line. “If we stay the course, we are dead! We are all dead!”
0:56
@@CaptainM792 exactly
Honestly, looking back at this now, I think Bale played John Connor the best.
Best John conner
Yes
He actually matches up to the image
Bale has some damn good acting chops!
Whenever I get a phone call from an unknown number I sometimes answer with “this is John Connor” for fun. Feels good man.
I just hope you don't get a call from the Terminator.
"I didn't catch that last statement", very convenient
Neither did I.
He was basically saying to Conner that he isnt acknowledging the order. Not because he didnt hear it
Bro Bro 4 lyf
You’re fired, no longer of the resistance!
Me 1:16
Christian bale such a talented and humble man
Good man
Man of family
God bless u
"I'll be back."
this line never gets old
Yes. It does.
@@Matt-rm5ir Uhh not it doesnt.
@@keirboyko 🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏
Just this once, it wasn't said by Arnold and it sounded good.
This speech shows how John rallied the Resistance to victory. He gave the soldiers fighting not just the strategy and tactics to win, but the cause of their fellow man and the hope of something more than survival. We see hints that parts of humanity remained selfish and only cared about making it past the next ten minutes. Not just by stealing from each other, but apathy towards people without an immediate value. Command believed treating the war like an equation, where people were just things to be counted and used the same as bullets, guns, and vehicles would help them make the necessary sacrifices to win against and unprecedented enemy. But John recognized that sacrifice is only really worth it when you recognize the value of what you're giving up. People are willing to fight past their limits when they have something greater than themselves to fight for. Even if it's just the person next to them. Treating each soldier and civilian as invaluable made people willing to die for John, because they knew he would do the same for them in a heartbeat.
Well-said! 👍
That's why all the people listened to him and standed down they believed in him more than the other guy John is the real leader of the resistance
Christian Bale was the best John Connor
What about Edward Furlong? Sure he was only a kid, but he's still better than Nick Stahl, Jason Clarke and Jai Courtney.
@@dannythomas417 I think he means a grown up John Connor, it was good to see him with the experiences from his childhood.
Thomas Dekker was solid
@@dannythomas417 Jai was Kyle Reese
Its a good thing you posted this video, I thought this was one of the best scenes in Terminator Salvation.
1:45 is how we all felt like in the start of Dark Fate
This scene is so powerful. The world follows him because they believe in him, justifying everything Sarah did to prepare him. And he uses her memory to rally them.
Heck, he even talks like her, too! 😮
Powerful cringe-writing!!!!!!!!!!
@@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 You're so cool, dude.
@@worsethanhitlerpt.2539no
@@worsethanhitlerpt.2539not in the slightest.
Still better than Genesys and Dark Fate combined. Bring Salvation sequels.
But Judgment Day is the absolutely only sequel worth anything.
@@dannythomas417 Especially with the alternate ending.
@@dannythomas417 Nobody is gonna argue that... But doing it over and over again is exactly how the franchise got run into the ground. Salvation could've changed that.
Darkseid relieving Batman of his command
He gave me Sam Fisher vibes
Sam Fisher giving the orders
I like Christian Bale as John Connor although for the People who Complain about him just say he sounding a bit like Batman here since he was also doing the Dark Knight Trilogy at this Time! outside of that I though he did a Damn Good Job John Connor look at him when he yelling at the Commander "IF WE STAY THE COURSE WE ARE DEAD! WE ARE ALL DEAD!"
“If we don’t stay at home...we are dead, we are all dead!”
If you stay home you're dead... you fu...ing moron. All of this Pandemic, its SKYNET in real, moron.
this is john connor
It's more important than ever to show love for humanity and try to save those who want to be saved ❤️❤️❤️
If this movie had more war scenes similar to what we've seen in the previous movies, fans would have enjoyed it more. There were almost no scenes were we see the machines attacking humans, except the harvester and moto-terminators. I don't know if the HK-Tank were in production in 2018, but the T-1 could have been the ''HK-Tank'' during that time periode, along with the T-600 terminators finding humans and exterminating them. HK-Aerials and Aerostats should have been everywhere.
Instead, we got to see humans have the upper hand, like this scene here. MGM had some great ideas for the movie, but executed them poorly.
I enjoyed it. This is an EARLY time in the war and they barely had the upper hand here. Plus the Resistance commend council gets destroyed.
You have to think about it. The game has changed, the time has changed the future is not the same as the original. And yes it shouldve had some original ideas. But the past has been mangled with so the future has to be different
Yeah well ONE, all the future scenes from previous movies were during a climactic battle and this doesn't take place during one. John infiltrates the base before the calvary gets there and blows it up. It's pretty realistic. TWO it's pretty dumb marching machines out there with no cover like it's the Revolutionary War. THREE it's earlier in the war so the machines probably haven't manufactured armies yet
@le Hoarderz Al-Shekelsteins and how many did you see? Exactly.
Orionpax880, Salvation is the first entry of next trilogy dude, why you in hurry?
1:16 We didn't catch that last statement.
I don't understand why people hate this movie.... I just never did. Genesis is an example of a fuck up. But not this.
JakesNation98 James Cameron thought Genesis was the best Terminator film since T2
Joe Whitehead well his opinion isn't too meaningful to Me. Genesis maybe a good film but it kind of fucks up the story and throws a wrench in it. It was unnecessary. A film in the post apocalypse was a terminator film most is us were waiting for and I don't think this did a bad job. Genesis was so forced and rushed and turned out corny asf. Like the whole thing seemed like it was made just because people wanted to more robot Arnold.
JakesNation98 I understand you feel that way. But I feel like Cameron’s opinion should mean something, since the idea for the terminator was originally his
Joe Whitehead true true. I disregarded Him a little too readily.
so much better then genies
That's some ballsy move by John Connor to raise his voice at Sam Fisher
Bruh Bale should play Fisher off the conviction series game chapter, lit movie that would be
Hell yeah, John. Time to bring down skynet from the inside..!
How many of you are here after Shytoshi's tweet?
“If you’re listening to this, you are the resistance”
And that’s how the first reprogrammed terminator came to be
I wish they continued on after Salvation
Christian Bale IS John Connor.
You’re no longer part of the resistance. He says to literal JOHN CONNOR
😂😂😂😂😂😂
That's why fate slap him dead
Yeah, but in this movie, John Connor is a lieutenant to the Resistance Command Council. He wasn't leader yet.
JC: This is Sparta!!!!!!!!
I was thinking he said “ We are fucked!.. We are all ..FUCKED!
toxic fans are starting to love The Rise of Machines and Salvation
Hey show some respect bro, if you never got a chance to see the old one. Then your comment confused to the whole area. This is RUclips, not some toxicity bro. If you have don't know what's going on. Then your the target. No toxicity is among us son nice try.
Or maybe the people who already watched Dark Fate were upset in the first place.
And labeling them as toxic isn't the answer. Because I didn't catch that last statement of your.
I’m glad this movie is aging better
You think so?
@@joewhitehead3 yeah I remember it getting soooo much hate when it first came out, I think the newer movies are so bad it made this atleast somewhat enjoyable 😂
@@SoCalNiner99 I thought Dark Fate was enjoyable
@@joewhitehead3 mostly talking about genysis
@@SoCalNiner99 Ah. Just makes sense
greetings from shiba army
This is what motivates me to fight when machines come to take over.
OMG that batman voice 😮 still there
I'm here for Shytoshi Kusama. We are #SHIBARMY
Way better then current movies
I like that didn't say "i'll be back" tongue in cheek. He said it earnestly.
I can relate to the impending doom of article 13 this is john conner you are the resistance
2:52 I'm Batman!
Favorite scene.
Batman yelling at Darkseid.
Fucking fitting scenerio, damn shame that'll never come to past with Burnt Bros.
Shytoshi was here......
This is Jhon Connor, if you are listening to this, you are the Resistance... and I'm Batman
#SHIBARMY 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
Alternatively John could have told Kate to tell his me that he’s Batman
Where's the trigger
WHERE IS IT
YOU'LL NEVER GAVE IT TO AN ORDIWARY CITIZEN
Where's the override? The override!
This may be one of the greatest Christian bale performances I saw.
If not my favourite.
Sytoshi kusama im here
When the current movie makes this movie looks badass.
I love how the resistance followed john and not the commander
In the comics John ends the war and (spoiler) becomes a terminator
Devenda the art That’s what happened in Terminator Genisys, except for the ending the war part
Best Jon Connor
I think the ones who hated this movie the most were critics, and guess what? Critics are often wrong.
#SHIBARMY IS HERE!!!
The real terminator
war with a machine and human beings ......
Not me being here after a drone went self aware and attacked it’s own operator
Christian bail played John very well
Without him his unique mindset all it's over the neural key
Terminator writers: Dani Ramos is now the leader of the resistance, not John Connor.
OG Terminator fans: 1:16-1:20
All dead conor their stabilized brains cannot reload. A strange man from the net was informing them all.
32. Batman voice
Shytoshi Kusama brought me here and ill be baaack!!! lmao #SHIBARMY AMERICANO
i thought skynet had no centralized location according to terminator 3, it was in every computer on earth.
Keith D maybe the data was stored everywhere but to actually run it, you'd need a huge ass server park, which is rare.
When this movie came out I had no idea who kyle reese was and he meant nothing to me.
Boy how times have changed...
You didn’t watch the first terminator before this?
my John Conner
"I didn't catch that last statement."
"Neither did I."
LOYAL ass squad!!!
Sam Fisher was about to do the mission by his own.
They were using radio waves for communication and the machine didn't pick up? Or what were they using for communication? Encrypted?
#SHIBARMY READY!!!
ShibaArmy was here ..
Shibarmy🤗😀😀
This movie had a lot of flaws but this is probably one of the best speeches of all time up there with Braveheart
Shibarmy, are you here?
Shytoshibeansama Looks your Chanel. You are a famous Star now. Shiba Community is behind you 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
If someone needs to be Reprised again for John Connor(For In Terminator Dark Fate or Terminator 7) I'm putting my Poker Chips down for Bale because like my Last Comment Christian Bale did a Damn Good Job as John Connor it seems to be there always a New Actor for John Connor but like I said if anyone needs another Outing as John Connor I want it to be Christian Bale
This aged like milk
My initial search was to find the scene with him and kon in the desert at night. The 2 witnesses. Word.
They both saw the Mage K aka H. K. only one person seems nervous in the scene though. I call this, the 2 witnesses.
Shibarmy are you here?
WE ARE ALL DEAD!!!
Yeah.... he's that assassin from John Wick 2. Consider it a professional courtesy.
Shytoshi Beansama 👍 🚀🚀🚀#Shiba Army
Its the key to shib!
Salvation, only movie made after the nuclear war. No time travel.
best line ever 0:58
#Shiba Army🚀🚀🚀
#shibarmy here
Awwww good for u
still the better chapter compared to Genesys and Dark Fate
I thought Dark Fate was pretty decent
Batman and Sam Fisher in 1 Scene
Bruce Wayne having an argument with Sam Fisher.
#ShibArmy
2:50
He said the thing
So the dark knight voice on xanax 😂
#SHIB 🇹🇷🔥
Honor Him, And Now We Are Free..