I have been exercising internal martial art more than forty years . Analysis of this video about Zhan Zhang Is the most reasonable as far as i can see. A thumbs up👍👍👍
really? i have only been learning internal tai chi for two years and not once have i been told to keep my elbows raised like this? jst the opposite. this seems to go against basic internal practice
@@amandasteven1400hat is because in today taichiquan a lot of teachers dont understand correct zz training. I recommend basic neijia practice especially doing yiquan and bagua/xingyi basics until one reach the stage of moving with whole body connection and dont loose the connection. This stage is also called "walking in mud or fog" or "pilestanding while walking". Then u can advance to taichiQUAN form practice. So if u have no neijin like strong sensation of peng during moving then maybe search other teacher or practice yiquan/neigong. I met many people who train taichi many years but have no neijin 😮😮
@@thekungfuintellect very, I cannot begin to explain the benefits that's cross over to boxing, muay thai, weightlifting etc... chi gong, neigong is another thing completely unfortunately most don't understand until at least they're 30s
it has been a couple weeks since I came across your kinetic anatomical flow chart analysis KFI...every day since then you have helped form my intention -YI - in my practice- this method has taken my mind-body-spirit to another level ...take care ...I am on to study more of your content-- I am also employing JOHN BRACEY- 3 PAIRS- ANKLE/WRIST-KNEE/ELBOW-HIP/SHOULDER those pairings have added tremendous power to my YI QUAN -SHI LI-XING YI QUAN always having proper YIN-YANG-FA LI...take care
@@tanyawieczorek6603 that's a good question. Well, you can't. The unilateral breathing mentioned in the study involves expanding the chest preferentially on one side of the body when breathing. What the study demonstrates is this method does preferentially ventilate the lung on that side(chest expanding side). However, that does not mean that no air is getting to the other lung.
Your teacher should be able to help you with that. Otherwise, recording your self or practicing in front of a mirror can be quite useful for examining your posture
It's best to follow your instructors direction. This video is not intended to teach the posture itself. It's just an analysis of the posture and variations which I've observed from a physiological standpoint.
Holding the hands at chest or navel is also very common. The lower the hands are held the less the anterior deltoid has to shorten to pull the arm up (i.e. less shoulder flexion). I find that emphasis on shoulder protraction also helps to when holding the hands higher.
that just takes practice...do not strain...just stand... check out MASTER CUI RUBIN a famous YI QUAN MASTER with true lineage... i have been standing a couple years and my hands are raised in the posture of CUI RUBIN... RAISED HANDS best protect the head in combat... and provide the greatest " structure "... the health benefits and raised spirit that flow from postures with " MARTIAL INTENT " are all one synergy ...of course this is KFI's channel and I would be all ears to read his kinetic analysis as that angle is pretty new to me and I am on it like white on rice and sorely lack KFI's anatomical expertise
I am just beginning to explore your kinetic and physiological analysis of TREE STANDING and am so excited I post to commend you- My ZHAN ZUANG standing has given me structure chi-jing-shen "beyond words " but it sure is wonderful to put some words and physiological science applied to the practice- thank you I will post as I gain greater understanding and absorb your catalog every vid posted wonderful and relevant to me-there are many greedy false masters- there is no magic or superstition - hong kong cinema wire is garbage -power comes from YANG CHI -old man tai chi is better than the easy chair but true power comes from cultivation of yang chi IMHO
@@thekungfuintellect Ah, ok, that explains it. The posture as it is shown here is not correct, and can even be harmful if performed as it is described here. Some of the explanation given is contradictory to the basic idea of zhan zhuang. Please be careful. I wish you a nice day and fun with training!
@@thekungfuintellect Thank you for your kind and open reaction. If you like you can find my website for some information. There is too much to know for sharing in just a few sentences. The posture you refer to, follows some basics 'rules' but has adaptations depending on the goal (martial, spiritual, health) and the individual situation. One basic of zhan zhuang for the first years is, not to tense or force breathing, to relax and release the upper body, to seek the golden middle for physical alignment. To bring the structure in such alignment, that gravity works easy on us. Every posture is designed for a certain impact. Squeezing or compressing organs is not what one would look for, it can damage health. I recommend the books of master Lam Kam Chuen.
I don't like the hand / arm position in the diagram. I believe that the elbows should drop a bit more and the hands should be in closer to the body. Breathing should be natural and the focus should be to relax (song) and not the breath. I believe the focus on this standing posture should be on creating peng.
This was not traditional ally part of tai chi. Neither is it an old chi Kung posture. Chi Kung is a new idea. It refers to the dao yin scroll. To the ancient health dance. The internal art that has posture holding is xing yi. One of their masters created a rebirth in posture holding or zhang zhuang.. he popularized it in the 1930s
Thanks for the info. I haven't studied the history in depth much. Just know that many Taiji folks practice this posture. I've practice Xingyi but my teacher(s) didn't emphasize this posture.
I have been exercising internal martial art more than forty years . Analysis of this video about Zhan Zhang Is the most reasonable as far as i can see. A thumbs up👍👍👍
Thank you!
really? i have only been learning internal tai chi for two years and not once have i been told to keep my elbows raised like this? jst the opposite. this seems to go against basic internal practice
@@amandasteven1400hat is because in today taichiquan a lot of teachers dont understand correct zz training. I recommend basic neijia practice especially doing yiquan and bagua/xingyi basics until one reach the stage of moving with whole body connection and dont loose the connection. This stage is also called "walking in mud or fog" or "pilestanding while walking". Then u can advance to taichiQUAN form practice. So if u have no neijin like strong sensation of peng during moving then maybe search other teacher or practice yiquan/neigong. I met many people who train taichi many years but have no neijin 😮😮
Very good video, I am practicing zhuang zhang now
Thank you 🙏🏽 although I initially neglected it, I now see that it is a beneficial practice.
@@thekungfuintellect very, I cannot begin to explain the benefits that's cross over to boxing, muay thai, weightlifting etc... chi gong, neigong is another thing completely unfortunately most don't understand until at least they're 30s
@@equilibriomartialmind777so true! that's about when you realize the importance of recovery. The healing power of youth itself starts to wane.
it has been a couple weeks since I came across your kinetic anatomical flow chart analysis KFI...every day since then you have helped form my intention -YI - in my practice- this method has taken my mind-body-spirit to another level ...take care ...I am on to study more of your content-- I am also employing JOHN BRACEY- 3 PAIRS- ANKLE/WRIST-KNEE/ELBOW-HIP/SHOULDER those pairings have added tremendous power to my YI QUAN -SHI LI-XING YI QUAN always having proper YIN-YANG-FA LI...take care
Happy you are finding it helpful!
How do you breathe only into 1 lung?
Even if you block a nostril, the air still goes into both lungs...
@@tanyawieczorek6603 that's a good question. Well, you can't. The unilateral breathing mentioned in the study involves expanding the chest preferentially on one side of the body when breathing. What the study demonstrates is this method does preferentially ventilate the lung on that side(chest expanding side). However, that does not mean that no air is getting to the other lung.
What's hard for me now is getting the feet to feel equally apart, sometimes one leg gets tired faster n messes up my concentration, any tips?
Your teacher should be able to help you with that. Otherwise, recording your self or practicing in front of a mirror can be quite useful for examining your posture
Perhaps one leg is shorter than the other?
One of my legs is 9mm shorter than the other so I wear shoes with a lift.
@@thekungfuintellect OK thanks I'll give that a go
@@tanyawieczorek6603so how do you practice the Qigong?
how do you know when you are in correct posture?
It's best to follow your instructors direction. This video is not intended to teach the posture itself. It's just an analysis of the posture and variations which I've observed from a physiological standpoint.
Thanks, I'm practicing with my hands at mid chest level. Very difficult to hold them at shoulder level for long right now.
Holding the hands at chest or navel is also very common. The lower the hands are held the less the anterior deltoid has to shorten to pull the arm up (i.e. less shoulder flexion). I find that emphasis on shoulder protraction also helps to when holding the hands higher.
that just takes practice...do not strain...just stand... check out MASTER CUI RUBIN a famous YI QUAN MASTER with true lineage... i have been standing a couple years and my hands are raised in the posture of CUI RUBIN... RAISED HANDS best protect the head in combat... and provide the greatest " structure "... the health benefits and raised spirit that flow from postures with " MARTIAL INTENT " are all one synergy ...of course this is KFI's channel and I would be all ears to read his kinetic analysis as that angle is pretty new to me and I am on it like white on rice and sorely lack KFI's anatomical expertise
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I am just beginning to explore your kinetic and physiological analysis of TREE STANDING and am so excited I post to commend you- My ZHAN ZUANG standing has given me structure chi-jing-shen "beyond words " but it sure is wonderful to put some words and physiological science applied to the practice- thank you I will post as I gain greater understanding and absorb your catalog every vid posted wonderful and relevant to me-there are many greedy false masters- there is no magic or superstition - hong kong cinema wire is garbage -power comes from YANG CHI -old man tai chi is better than the easy chair but true power comes from cultivation of yang chi IMHO
Thanks! I'm still creating more analyses. There's alot to explore and understand!
May I ask who your Zhan Zhuang teacher is?
In my Xingyi practice we didn't train this posture. I'm mostly aware of it through other practitioners.
@@thekungfuintellect Ah, ok, that explains it. The posture as it is shown here is not correct, and can even be harmful if performed as it is described here. Some of the explanation given is contradictory to the basic idea of zhan zhuang. Please be careful. I wish you a nice day and fun with training!
@@gardenofchi2024 feel free to send me the way you practice and I'll include it in an updated analysis.
@@thekungfuintellect Thank you for your kind and open reaction. If you like you can find my website for some information. There is too much to know for sharing in just a few sentences. The posture you refer to, follows some basics 'rules' but has adaptations depending on the goal (martial, spiritual, health) and the individual situation. One basic of zhan zhuang for the first years is, not to tense or force breathing, to relax and release the upper body, to seek the golden middle for physical alignment. To bring the structure in such alignment, that gravity works easy on us. Every posture is designed for a certain impact. Squeezing or compressing organs is not what one would look for, it can damage health. I recommend the books of master Lam Kam Chuen.
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I don't like the hand / arm position in the diagram. I believe that the elbows should drop a bit more and the hands should be in closer to the body. Breathing should be natural and the focus should be to relax (song) and not the breath. I believe the focus on this standing posture should be on creating peng.
This was not traditional ally part of tai chi. Neither is it an old chi Kung posture. Chi Kung is a new idea. It refers to the dao yin scroll. To the ancient health dance. The internal art that has posture holding is xing yi. One of their masters created a rebirth in posture holding or zhang zhuang.. he popularized it in the 1930s
Thanks for the info. I haven't studied the history in depth much. Just know that many Taiji folks practice this posture. I've practice Xingyi but my teacher(s) didn't emphasize this posture.
Just because Qigong is a new idea doesn't mean a lot of the practices contained in it aren't older.
But the history is convoluted and vague, yes.
Elbows down - shoulders down - poor graphics
This is not a great video at all, the diagram is vague and the arm posture appears to high, creating tension
thanks for the feedback!