I enjoyed the level design's reuse of areas because it allowed the player to get familiar with how to approach enemies in addition to becoming immersed in the universe by walking through forerunner architecture.
For me it's the sheer amount of time it takes to do it without using any tricks or exploits, coming off the back of a mission that took me maybe 20-30 on legendary, this monster took me 2+ hours to figure out.
just finished that level on legendary and i killed 90 elite's, 20 hunters, 100 ish jackal's, 10 ghost's, 6 banshee's, I think 8 wraiths and exactly 254 grunt's. That was one hell of a slog took me an hour and a half.
I played this on normal and it took me a solid 2 or so hours to finish. Mind you, I haven't played the original Halo for over 15 years and only got to try this again recently with the MC Collection.
If I remember correctly, you can actually see a pelican arrive and pick them up. I don't remember if you have to just wait, or if you have to move around and advance and backtrack a little, but there is a way to do it. I used to spend hours as a kid trying to trigger it, because I always kept them alive and I wanted to see them get home safe
@@timo9533 The novel First Strike (which takes place immediately after Halo CE and right before Halo 2) revealed there were some survivors from the aftermath.
I actually can't wait to see 343 Guilty Spark and Two Betrayals. In fact I think Two Betrayals is going to be very interesting. I still find it to be the toughest CE level, much tougher than The Library in my opinion.
Great to watch you play one of the most replayable games of history ! Fyi, the plasma pistol charge shot glitch was not only in MCC, but also in the CEA for 360
Ben DarthDakka No... CE scorpion is awful. Its so inacurate. When you are at that outside part at 13:16 you have to sit back from far and take out everything that way. Unless you charge in and get close you arent always garunteed you will hit your target every shot. It results in you losing so much health or just dying
I never bothered using the assault rifle against the covenant on legendary. I had a lot more success with the plasma rifle as my primary weapon ; and then a pistol as my sidearm. As far as trying to keep the marines alive on legendary ; I learned the hard way, don't bother. They're as good as dead anyway.
Raving Libertopian I actually despise the CE plasma rifle almost never used it and stuck to AR for close quarters missions in the first half, Plamsa Pistol for long range, and shotgun for the second half.
I did this challenge after watching your first one and I had to replay this whole mission three times. I got to chill for a few minutes and listen to Siege of Madrigal.
I finished halo 2’s legendary. I’m working on halo one now, and going from hardest to easiest. Next, I’m doing halo 4, then halo 3, then halo 3: ODST, then Halo 5
Like you said, the different perspective and encounters make it so that going back through the same level doesn't come off as repetitive. In fact, I'll freely admit that I actually didn't figure out that Two Betrayals was Assault on the Control Room only backwards and at night until a few years after first playing it.
Always loved this level cause it is so generous. They give you along the ride almost everything, it's like a buffet. You get the warthog, sniper rifle, the rocket launcher and the first tank.
I loved taking a ghost to the final door. If you timed it just right, the ghost would run over the Chief at the beginning of the cutscene and cause all kinds of glitches when Chief plugs Cortana into the control panel.
47:39 i always just walked up that tall narrow ramp thing and sniped everyone from up top, while also going all the way to the top. Don't know if anyone else did this.
Act man a tip I use is I will switch to the weapon I have with a wider crosshairs to stick enemies. For example, I have a pistol and an assault rifle. I’ll switch to the AR then throw the plasma grenade
This was probably my favorite level when I first played the game. I liked the challenge of leaving behind the scorpion and going on foot while you keep your marines alive until you meet up with the last group of them. You should have 11 or 12 marines at that point and then can take them all for a final big charge
Smart move with the marines. Just cracked the game out again cause it’s a classic. This is probably my favorite level too. I couldn’t believe I was actually able to get 2 marines onto the scorpion (on legendary of course). Whether or not they survived the whole way is a different story.
I actually always fight through the last circular room, kill all the jackals and grunts in the hallway, then go back and get the camo and get the banshee. I always found it to be the best way to get through that area.
I have found on normal difficulty you don’t appreciate what’s happening in the game. For example the music is over before it starts sometimes because you run through the areas so fast and obviously is a lot easier also. So legendary is definitely the way to play I think
idky it bothered me so much, but when you didnt just use the Warthog turret to kill that ghost in the first outside section. i cringed. i watch all ur videos, and im glad to see another dude wgo really knows and respects these games for everything they are and everything they accomplished
You can actually clear most (if not all) of the rooms on this level without being detected by the enemies (if you play super stealthily). You have to be patient and sneak up behind the jackal/elite patrols, which involves a lot of crouching and hiding. I've never seen anyone do it in a video, sadly (it was tough here because of the iron skull, it's easier if you can reload checkpoints ofc)
Dr. Gonzo Yes I was just looking for a RUclips videos today of people playing like this but couldn’t find anything. I would like to see someone go through all missions trying to get as many stealth melee kills as possible but that is pretty difficult because of the ai. Plus there is no silenced weapons or anything like that. I think I’m some situations in certain levels stealth is impossible because of the spawns but it is certainly more viable than most players think. Or they simply chose to run in guns blazing most of the time because it is easier and/or more fun for them. I have tried to clear entire runs on this level the, first time I played this campaign, without alerting the enemies and after many attempts I’ve had some success managing to take out several grunts, jackals and a few elites. Eventually after going back to checkpoint several I however lose my patience and kill the rest in a firefight.
I figured out how to rapid shot the same way the jackals do in this game. Its the same method we used to use in the arcade shooter games like time crisis 2 or house of the dead
hold the controller like a gun with your finger off the trigger, then use your other hand to rapidly press the right trigger. It will be difficult to move around and it may be difficult to do correctly at first, but soon enough you will be jizzing plasma all over the covenant ;)
Ce only bothered me in two ways. First, there's only 3 covenant weapons, but that's just my own opinion. Second, you can't pick up the energy sword or the fuelrod canon😅
Doing this challenge and beat Silent Cartographer without dying. Thought I would try AOTCR just to do a practice run and see how far I could make it and 2 hours later I made it all the way without dying! This challenge is difficult but definitely doable. Very nervous about Two Betrayals though
It never bothered me that bungie recycled parts of levels. Not only was it 2001 and they needed to save resources but it also made sense. You go into somewhere as chief to do something it only makes sense to turn around and go back the way you came. Sure a cutscene could work but it would shorten the game. Halo CE is a timeless classic and it always will be. I’d prefer recycled areas much more then a cutscene
Act man u know u can actually take the ghost to the top of the tower thing that leads to the control room, right? Very useful for clearing out the huge wave of enemies that spawn when u open the door.
29:05 here I just jumped onto the glass and onto the other bridge, threw a plasma grenade so it stuck on one of the invisible elites so both of them died then I got a checkpoint
btw to answer your question at 3:30 . I never bothered the repetition in HALO: CE since every encounter are different and HALO: CE have this way of making the halo ring feel so big and mysterious and you are walking down theses big forerunner facilities I've always found that it add consistency to the architecture. Also I kinda like the fact that on some missions you have to backtrack your way to the beginning like in the mission 343 guilty spark it add structure to the mission, they drop you at a location you go complete your objective then you come back for a swift extraction like the military does it just make sense.
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Mad respect for this mission alone, this one is sooo tough.
Yeah near the end on the bridge parts I about committed suicide on legendary
I think the sleeping grunt are adorable.
I want a Grunt plush now that you've mentioned it. 😂
I never kill the sleeping grunts, and try to kill as few grunts as I can, the grunts you see in the games are literally children.
Like your vids man
grunts don't look as cute without their masks on
Me too!🥰
I enjoyed the level design's reuse of areas because it allowed the player to get familiar with how to approach enemies in addition to becoming immersed in the universe by walking through forerunner architecture.
39:18
"I was blown away by that glitch"
ONLY THE STRONGEST CAN SURVIVE!
***BASS DROPS***
the ultimate pie only the strongest WILL survive
the ultimate pie meet me in heaven when we die
megahertz XV lmao
megahertz XV I am the shadow on the wall. I'll be the one to save us all.
When i See an Act Man Video its like the fourth of july for me
35:50 that grunt killed his bro while you were reloading!
lol.............OOF
Dylan [ Kazuul 十 Akroma ] haha I didn't even notice
Also if you listen very closely he says *sorry*
LOL I was just going to comment that
A strange one AI i guess
35:50 Lmaooo did that grunt just got killed by his own friend doing friendly fire???
Yes...
The AI was from 2001 ok?
@@audreycooper2246 The AI is pretty good I just had never seen that happen while playing halo and that was funny seeing it
@@ayuwoki453 Oh yes.
Funny stuff
@@ayuwoki453 the covenant did have friendly fire issue. I saw it mostly in Two betrayals.
The repitition never bothered me
Me either.
For me it's the sheer amount of time it takes to do it without using any tricks or exploits, coming off the back of a mission that took me maybe 20-30 on legendary, this monster took me 2+ hours to figure out.
@@stormeth1313 this mission is pretty good but it does get a bit repetitive especially since you essentially go back to it in Two Betrayals
On legendary holy cow, it is terrible
"That gold elite is out for blood but so are my needles." Pretty badass one-liner right there! Sarge would be proud.
just finished that level on legendary and i killed 90 elite's, 20 hunters, 100 ish jackal's, 10 ghost's, 6 banshee's, I think 8 wraiths and exactly 254 grunt's. That was one hell of a slog took me an hour and a half.
You’re a true barbarian, I say this in the most respectful way possible.
Ive been on this for 4 hrs on legendary and i havent even reached the part with the banshee hijacking, this mission is a bastard!
I played this on normal and it took me a solid 2 or so hours to finish. Mind you, I haven't played the original Halo for over 15 years and only got to try this again recently with the MC Collection.
@@SoldierOfFate I really hate this game on legendary
@@Chuked I agree. Legendary is artificial difficulty
I'm glad I'm not the only one that tries to save the marines! In halo 2 I would restart so much trying to keep the marines alive.
The reason the marines stay behind is because they're getting evaced, but sadly they just get flooded in that other snow mission
If I remember correctly, you can actually see a pelican arrive and pick them up. I don't remember if you have to just wait, or if you have to move around and advance and backtrack a little, but there is a way to do it. I used to spend hours as a kid trying to trigger it, because I always kept them alive and I wanted to see them get home safe
@@no-barknoonan1335 Your cultured mate
@@no-barknoonan1335 Kinda sad how that in the end was all for nothing.
@@timo9533 The novel First Strike (which takes place immediately after Halo CE and right before Halo 2) revealed there were some survivors from the aftermath.
@@SoldierOfFate don't they all die except for Johnson though?
That grunt glitch near the end was pretty hilarious when me and my brother played back in the day. We ran into that one often
8:10 “not my fault, someone put a wall there.”
man after hearing these soundtracks I would really love if 343 hired Marty O'Donnell. That would really put me back into that Halo vibe.
The music for halo 4-5 are actually good but they’re not halo
I actually can't wait to see 343 Guilty Spark and Two Betrayals. In fact I think Two Betrayals is going to be very interesting. I still find it to be the toughest CE level, much tougher than The Library in my opinion.
SirSprite two betrayals is one of the easiest mission on legendary
Max France I just get out of my Banshee and take out flood with pistol or rocket launcher
The Master Llama yeah that is only flood who can fuck you
FinalSprite the only tough mission in halo ce is truth and reconciliation..
Nah, my opinion is the maw. The damn pressure from time limits and not dying is quite a load
Great to watch you play one of the most replayable games of history ! Fyi, the plasma pistol charge shot glitch was not only in MCC, but also in the CEA for 360
35:09 lol the noise of your voice when sped up lol
CE was and still is one of my top 3 favourite Halo games.
3 - Halo 3
2 - Halo CE
1- Halo Reach
Love your videos and your genuine love for the original game. Thanks for the uploads/your time!
This level on legendary, is eating away at my life right now lol!
AH the Halo CE and Halo 2 Scorpion. Back when it didn’t suck.
Ben DarthDakka No... CE scorpion is awful. Its so inacurate. When you are at that outside part at 13:16 you have to sit back from far and take out everything that way. Unless you charge in and get close you arent always garunteed you will hit your target every shot. It results in you losing so much health or just dying
Ben DarthDakka nah the CE scorpion was by far and away the worst it was very easy to be shot right out of it.
I never bothered using the assault rifle against the covenant on legendary. I had a lot more success with the plasma rifle as my primary weapon ; and then a pistol as my sidearm. As far as trying to keep the marines alive on legendary ; I learned the hard way, don't bother. They're as good as dead anyway.
Raving Libertopian I actually despise the CE plasma rifle almost never used it and stuck to AR for close quarters missions in the first half, Plamsa Pistol for long range, and shotgun for the second half.
Marines with the sniper rifle are absolute godsends, on the other hand.
@@chengzhou8711 Now that..... I can agree 100%.
37:22. Interesting. I definitely remember as a kid when that track started it made everything feel so mysterious. 5 invis elites to go with it
I did this challenge after watching your first one and I had to replay this whole mission three times. I got to chill for a few minutes and listen to Siege of Madrigal.
I finished halo 2’s legendary. I’m working on halo one now, and going from hardest to easiest. Next, I’m doing halo 4, then halo 3, then halo 3: ODST, then Halo 5
I like how you pointed out that sound bug with the plasma pistol I thought I was going crazy llol
Mhh the library is gonna be...."fun"...hehe
Remember I am waiting to see it because I can't complete it with dying on legendary
Remember lol it's a bloody hard mission
megahertz XV play with me bro
megahertz XV we can complete halo CE together on legendary
Chilaxer _13 i guess thats a no lol
25:25 Now we know where the Grunts' Breeding samctuaries are located. Very important data, Chief keep it safe :)
Like you said, the different perspective and encounters make it so that going back through the same level doesn't come off as repetitive. In fact, I'll freely admit that I actually didn't figure out that Two Betrayals was Assault on the Control Room only backwards and at night until a few years after first playing it.
Always loved this level cause it is so generous. They give you along the ride almost everything, it's like a buffet. You get the warthog, sniper rifle, the rocket launcher and the first tank.
Act man Have You Heard "Flawed Legacy"? Its a Halo 2 Song its Cool
act man, I grew up playing this game since I was 2 and watching you play it so well has been amazing. keep up the great work
...you played halo when you were.. 2?
ya, It was right when It came out and my dad played it so he gave me a controller😂
This is in my top 3 missions franchise wide.
Tfw you’re just napping then the next thing you know a 6’7 Olive Colored walking tank bashes your skull in with spiky rocks attached to a gun
I would love to see you and Hokie talk about Halo 2
I loved taking a ghost to the final door. If you timed it just right, the ghost would run over the Chief at the beginning of the cutscene and cause all kinds of glitches when Chief plugs Cortana into the control panel.
LMAO the red Elite at 31:00
Grenade missed: "The fuck was that!?"
Turns around: "The fuck are you??"
Face-stickied: "THE FUCK IS THIS!!?"
Me and my cousin used to play this on Co-Op and we’d always bat the sleeping grunts to death except one…to spread the story of the room of Death.
Marines are insanely helpless in this level.
'Cause how doesn't like a good wack?
47:39 i always just walked up that tall narrow ramp thing and sniped everyone from up top, while also going all the way to the top. Don't know if anyone else did this.
Nick Cerini Yes! And I can’t believe he didn’t go for the ammo at the bottom of the ramp
Act man a tip I use is I will switch to the weapon I have with a wider crosshairs to stick enemies. For example, I have a pistol and an assault rifle. I’ll switch to the AR then throw the plasma grenade
Scorpion on fast forward is amazingly awesome!
Love this level design
This was probably my favorite level when I first played the game. I liked the challenge of leaving behind the scorpion and going on foot while you keep your marines alive until you meet up with the last group of them. You should have 11 or 12 marines at that point and then can take them all for a final big charge
Smart move with the marines. Just cracked the game out again cause it’s a classic. This is probably my favorite level too. I couldn’t believe I was actually able to get 2 marines onto the scorpion (on legendary of course). Whether or not they survived the whole way is a different story.
What a FUCKING GREAT way to start the weekend! Thanks bud :D
I actually always fight through the last circular room, kill all the jackals and grunts in the hallway, then go back and get the camo and get the banshee. I always found it to be the best way to get through that area.
Assault on the Control Room didn't bother me. What DID bother me was The Library and Two Betrayals.
Library was that way easy for me but two betrayals is really hard
And so is truth and reconciliation. It's the hardest in halo CE
@Potato Guy I mean yeah, but that didn't go on for an eternity, did it?
😄😄😄! OML, “One invisible Elite! Ah, ah, ah.” Damn, how I don’t like them anymore.
*Quite the challenge if you ask me*
I mean you're going mission from mission, if you did this in one playthrough I'd respect it
Why is halo 2 so fuckin hard, why is halo 2 so fuckin fun! :D
Ancient true
It's a pretty dope game. Gotta luv them snipers all day
I have found on normal difficulty you don’t appreciate what’s happening in the game. For example the music is over before it starts sometimes because you run through the areas so fast and obviously is a lot easier also. So legendary is definitely the way to play I think
How the fk is Legendary the way it's supposed to be played? I swear you're stupid AF lol
@@JohnSmith-nn8xh dude get a life fr
idky it bothered me so much, but when you didnt just use the Warthog turret to kill that ghost in the first outside section. i cringed. i watch all ur videos, and im glad to see another dude wgo really knows and respects these games for everything they are and everything they accomplished
I died 12 times immediately so I'm gonna study this video hard.
Two best levels of Halo are in this area
This mission was a grind, and it's certainly easy to get lost if you aren't careful.
You can actually clear most (if not all) of the rooms on this level without being detected by the enemies (if you play super stealthily). You have to be patient and sneak up behind the jackal/elite patrols, which involves a lot of crouching and hiding. I've never seen anyone do it in a video, sadly (it was tough here because of the iron skull, it's easier if you can reload checkpoints ofc)
Dr. Gonzo Yes I was just looking for a RUclips videos today of people playing like this but couldn’t find anything. I would like to see someone go through all missions trying to get as many stealth melee kills as possible but that is pretty difficult because of the ai. Plus there is no silenced weapons or anything like that. I think I’m some situations in certain levels stealth is impossible because of the spawns but it is certainly more viable than most players think. Or they simply chose to run in guns blazing most of the time because it is easier and/or more fun for them. I have tried to clear entire runs on this level the, first time I played this campaign, without alerting the enemies and after many attempts I’ve had some success managing to take out several grunts, jackals and a few elites. Eventually after going back to checkpoint several I however lose my patience and kill the rest in a firefight.
Yeah the music.. a bud of mine has all the CE music on his Ipod even though he doesn't even play halo. Good stuff
Ur a legend
If you know what your doing with the needler, I personally believe it can carry you through every halo game but 2.
I figured out how to rapid shot the same way the jackals do in this game. Its the same method we used to use in the arcade shooter games like time crisis 2 or house of the dead
Stormbinger so how do you do it?
hold the controller like a gun with your finger off the trigger, then use your other hand to rapidly press the right trigger. It will be difficult to move around and it may be difficult to do correctly at first, but soon enough you will be jizzing plasma all over the covenant ;)
For a great game like Halo Combat Evolved, repetitive sections should be forgiven.
Library: *evil laugh* you fool!
35:51 Grunt killed his ally to challenge armageddon.
35:50 "fuck you in particular" lmaoo
Ce only bothered me in two ways.
First, there's only 3 covenant weapons, but that's just my own opinion.
Second, you can't pick up the energy sword or the fuelrod canon😅
I agree. And the other thing that bothers me in CE is that elites are really fast and can dodge very easily. So it's very hard to hit headshots
@@aakashb3632 That's Legendary for you
Doing this challenge and beat Silent Cartographer without dying. Thought I would try AOTCR just to do a practice run and see how far I could make it and 2 hours later I made it all the way without dying! This challenge is difficult but definitely doable. Very nervous about Two Betrayals though
43:30 sounds like Heretic Hero from Halo 2.
When they don’t go through the door it’s their loss for not coming with you because they get infected by the flood later
I killed them anyways
Get the cloak after clearing hunters and the grunts and run up to the banshee your cloak would still be on..
At the final part, the by the wraith has a sniper and ammo, rocket launcher and ammo, pistol and AR plus fookin AMMO
I hate this fucking level it's continual padding I can't
Is the commentary post or live?
Also, this is really cool. I just realized you have this second channel haha
Keep up the good work, Mr. Man! :)
Never mind I found out lol
This gameplay is so long that it's 54 mins with many areas sped up and I also had to watch in x1.5 lmao
Did you know you can hold X when youre getting out of the Pelican and get back in and fly off?
Well, then die but still kinda cool
I think the first wraith is scripted to fire on where the marines are because when you went behind the little hill it started firing back there again
Never smacked a Like button so fast...
After you pass the sword elites just get the camo and go then quickly run for the banshee then fly of it works
The repeated structures didn’t bother me at all
I only realised it while watching others stream lol
Try 2 nades at that very beginning part :) don't let them get out!
what's your least favorite Halo CE level?
I love all of them
Imo this level went on a bit longer than it should have
You know that you can skip the reload animation if you switch weapons during the reload
Even on heroic this mission is tough
Legendary mode is aimbot city, AI shoot weapons x3 faster, spam grenades. It's unfair
this mission is damn near impossible for me... atleast with no deaths...
Thank you!! Great video.
It never bothered me that bungie recycled parts of levels. Not only was it 2001 and they needed to save resources but it also made sense. You go into somewhere as chief to do something it only makes sense to turn around and go back the way you came. Sure a cutscene could work but it would shorten the game. Halo CE is a timeless classic and it always will be. I’d prefer recycled areas much more then a cutscene
Act man u know u can actually take the ghost to the top of the tower thing that leads to the control room, right? Very useful for clearing out the huge wave of enemies that spawn when u open the door.
thanks for the video
Vid with Hokiebird428. I'm on board!
I always thought the needler was for multiplayer mostly, especially for new players because the shots track so much.
29:05 here I just jumped onto the glass and onto the other bridge, threw a plasma grenade so it stuck on one of the invisible elites so both of them died then I got a checkpoint
How dod i not know of this second channel???
2:20 if you do a video about that, Title it "Why is Halo 2 very unbalanced on Legendary difficulty"
I did get that Banshee on Legendary but I died 12-16 times getting it fuck ton of guys every where.
Under 10 views bois
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love thoses video good job man keep it up
btw to answer your question at 3:30 . I never bothered the repetition in HALO: CE since every encounter are different and HALO: CE have this way of making the halo ring feel so big and mysterious and you are walking down theses big forerunner facilities I've always found that it add consistency to the architecture. Also I kinda like the fact that on some missions you have to backtrack your way to the beginning like in the mission 343 guilty spark it add structure to the mission, they drop you at a location you go complete your objective then you come back for a swift extraction like the military does it just make sense.
this game is perfect
I love Ur commentary! =D