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San Francisco Cable Car Needs a Push! Rare!
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- Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2017
- Once in a while, the San Francisco Cable Cars lose the cable on an incline and need a push up the hill. I've heard that sometimes the cable is greased up too much causing the clamp to slip. I wonder if that is why the cable car didn't re-attach to the cable on the flat section, and instead had to be pushed up the second hill.
It was a lot of fun to watch the guys run the cable car, and the Cable Car Cafe was such a cute place for breakfast with a view!
One time the Powell-Hyde car needed a push at Beach Street before it climbed the Hyde Street Hill; the gripman and conductor asked the passengers to give the car a push across Beach Street before it gripped the rope and started the climb.
Wow, that’s crazy!
Haha that is so 1890. Tourists got the authentic experience there.
Pretty impressive considering those cars weigh 15,000lbs
For the record, a cable car, empty, weighs six tons. That's 12,000 pounds. Not only did I once see passengers push one across the intersection at Hyde and Beach, I once helped myself.
I went to school with a guy who had been a cable car gripman for awhile, but he switched to operating one of the electric trams. He said that people don't realize how dangerous cable cars are. First, if a car stops quickly, people can be thrown through the glass at the front of the car. And he said the braking was a joke. There are cast iron brake drums, but they overheat quickly. Then there are pieces of wood that the operator can press down on the tracks, but if it's wet, they don't work. Finally, as a last resort, there is a wedge on a long arm that can be deployed which will wedge itself into the groove in the street... but the car stops immediately, and the wedge welds itself to the groove, and a team needs to be sent out to cut the wedge out. And that leave a gap in the groove for a foot or so, so they can't used a wedge at that point again. He said that if you go and look at a steep hill, you can see the gaps where the wedges were cut out.
That's pretty scary! I see the guys put their full weight into gripping the rope. It's an old technology and I'm glad that there aren't more accidents.
@@Luke_Starkenburg Something else really weird. In the 1970s, a passenger on the Hyde Street cable car got a head injury when the car got into an accident. She sued MUNI, claiming that the accident turned her into a Nymphomaniac. She was a devout Lutheran from Michigan when she moved to San Francisco two weeks before the accident. She said that after the accident, she had sex with 100 men. She had 50 partners in one week. The cable car was climbing up the steep hill near Lombard Street when suddenly mechanical failure caused the grip to lose the cable. The car plunged backwards down the hill. She hit a pole and suffered a black eye, bruises and, she said, an insatiable appetite for sex. The jury awarded her $50,000.
This is one of the best San Francisco stories. I used to live in San Francisco, but now live in a small town in Iowa. About the most interesting thing that happens in my town of 10,000 is when a car's radiator overheats.
@@ralphturner3798 hmmm . . . so she started gripping a lot of cable. show them how it's done boys.
That's just railroading. Stop being such a little baby.
This happened to a cable car I was in years ago. Some jackass jumped in front to grab some pictures and we had to wait for a truck to push us to flat ground so the cable could be grabbed again
Stupid!
Visited the Cable Car Museum many years ago to see how the system works, all very interesting. Like the recovery truck in the video.
losing grip on the cable (not dropping the cable- that is a different problem) generally happens a couple times a day because of cars getting in the way on hills and whatnot and normally they just let it go backwards down to the next level point to get enough grip again... if the cable is dropped then it either has to roll back to the previous stop entirely or be pushed to the next stop
Had that happen on one of the cable cars I was riding on in the early 80's. The cable car rolled backwards down the hill to the flat spot, got the grip, and back up the hill we went. The car that had been sitting in front of us on the tracks was ticketed. I will never forget the number of that cable car; lucky 13.
Cable cars are awesome the way they work,, & those guys work their asses off..
Wow, that's awesome they do the recovery with guests on board! Awesome video as always, Luke :)
Iain Hendry I don’t think they gave free rides to the disserviced customers. The streetcars routinely have delays and sometimes clump together.
Years ago I visited San Francisco and I find out a wonderful city.
So cool watching the cable car getting pushed up the hill. Love ❤️ the San Francisco cable cars . Very interesting to see the cable inside the Cable Car Museum. Excellent job!!
Cool
Patrick Kinney initial
Back around 1980 I lived and worked in an 1892 building in NYC that was originally the cable car power house for the Broadway and Houston st line, it originally had four 1,000 HP Corliss steam engines and 12 high pressure boilers to run the cable under the street. It also had a huge dynamo to produce power for lighting in the building, and a water operated freight elevator from the ground floor to the sub basement.
It had a huge deep basement and 2 sub- basements to accomodate the machinery and the 32 foot diameter driving wheel.
I had found an engineers' log book down in the basement that described the building not being finished yet and firing up the boilers to start drying it out, it later detailed the daily running and problems, it was like not a day went by the some cable either slipped off a drum, frayed and got caught up on something, or some other problem requiring shutting down the whole line.
Around 1900 they electrified the line, and some time after that, maybe during WW1 or WWll scrap drives every bit of machinery was completely removed leaving only 3 of the boilers for heating.
What a loss that was, it was custom built totally unique, only one of it's kind, had it sat there unused it could have become a museum showcase, but it was completely destroyed.
It wasn't until a few years ago that I found a couple of articles in Scientific American, and some photos of what WAS there, and views of the engine room and steam engines.
The big problem seemed to be the sheer length and weight of the cable itself, it went all the way down town and then up to about 20th street and around, I forget what the weight of the cable was but it was a crazy amount of weight that had to be moved around continuously. The electrification of the cars was a far better solution where each car had an electric motor getting it's power from a contact rail under the street where the cable was.
The building is at 611 Broadway, NYC and was built by McKim, Mead & White
Cable pulled systems are remarkably inefficient, except for funicular ones where two cars counterweight each other. Something like 2% of the energy used in the San Fransisco network is actually used to pull the cars around, the rest is just pulling the cable in a big loop.
Victorian Sculptures I had a neighbor at 1294 First Avenue, (no longer there ) who remembered horse drawn trolleys.
@@richardemms3050 I'm going to hazard an educated guess that even on funiculars, they will be inefficient due to having to move the cable, plus when one car is down and the other one is up, you have almost all of the weight of the cable trying to keep the system that way, and so the motor has to work against it (in the case of letting the down car the last part of the way down, this means applying braking -- with electric drive you can get some back by regenerative braking, but you'll still have cable friction losses). Of course, if the slope increases towards the top at just the right rate, this will mitigate that, although if you have loads that aren't always the same, it's always going to be somewhat off (even worse if the slope is uneven in not the way you need for such compensation).
I love the cable car system I wish more cities had them they are great bring them back New York
Never thought about what happens if they have a mechanical failure... Very interesting video. Museum shots were nice, didn't get a chance to see that when I was over there many years ago.
I love Trolleys!!! I didn’t know that the San Francisco trolleys were pulled by underground cables! I live in Memphis Tennessee and they just brought our trolleys back! I’m tired of seeing those dumb fake bus trolley abominations driving where the trolleys should be. So now I know why they are called cable cars! And yes I know trolleys and cable cars are different.
They couldn't be more different!
The same happend to me in 1994. Very interesting experience beeing pushed up the hill by a truck ;-)
I live by SF used to live there, and he cable car museum is sick, recommend it.
I love the cars who are honking at the stranded tram. Are they special or something??
Lived in socal for my entire life and thought I had seen it all with bad drivers and traffic, then I went to San Francisco. There's no rules and everyone owns the streets
The people honking were kicked off the short bus for not being smart enough for special education classes.
Shadow Vader Could you just say obnoxious people?
1:45 Car was honking at the motorcyclist who was cutting him off. Pay attention to the video, idiots.
TommyTom nah, Americans, at least here in Australia we have community respect and lend a hand.
Thanks for the documentary.
Went to San Francisco with my mom dad and brother had a lovely time there had a good time on the trams too :-)
Cool vid!! Best Wishes from Praha, Czech Republic!
Gotta love the old International trucks.
Handled it like a boss .... did it ad darn near idle . I remember when my grandpa had one for towing it was a Detroit with a heck of a snarl .... sigh ... miss those long summer night just hanging out in it having the local girl come check out the stick shift
Its a good thing it was a old international. If it was a new one this would of been a video of a tow truck picking it up after it puked all its coolant on the ground.
Flying over the sea~ yeosu marine cablecar
Always found an excuse to ride the cable cars when I visited SF.
very nice footage , i mean the quality of your video :)
San Francisco... A very beautiful city
i thought they were like our trams in australia, great video thankyou!
I love cable car / tram / tramway 😍
I like how everyone is still on the car...its like meh, we're still going places lol
Great video. I had no idea these are cable cars; thought they're regular electric trams!
Only 15 minutes for the 'resque' truck to arrive? A lot of companies can learn from that
Thijs Rooijakkers True thats a long ass time
Jaska Jokunen long? Shortest response for a breakdown I ever had was 45 minutes
Yeah, their response time always seems to be really quick. I was in San Francisco last week and the cable car I was on had to stop on the corner of Hyde & Washington due to a van that was parked on the tracks. The cable car got stuck and the operator paged for the rescue truck, it didn't even take five minutes before it arrived. A little nudge later and we were on our way down Hyde Street again :)
So there should be a truck on every block!
Rescue*
I love San Francisco!!
This is so cute!
Awesome Footage! 👍
very cool video, thanks for uploading this!
If I were the driver, I would’ve been like “Okay everybody now get out and push the car up the hill!”
Lucky catch! All my visits there and I never saw this, thanks for posting!
Well , THAT was well done ! Thanks.
Thank you!
Damnit now I'm hungry for some Rice-A-Roni
Great Video👌👌👌
Wow, amazing 👍
Legend says it hasn't been fixed since then and the truck still pushin...lol..laughing all the way from Fiji..nice quality footage.keep it up bro.
When I drove in San Francisco it felt like chaos driving alone those cable cars. I felt I had to be watching for them all the time.
i love san francisco, such a beautiful city
Pretty cool catch! I see the first time the red painted areas.
Red means public transportations only, usually applies to Muni's buses, cable cars and streetcars. Green is for bicycles.
Awesome classic .
There is a need of an Elephant with immediate effect ...
I never realised they used cables to go uphill...
melbourne had a similar kind of system before their trams. i went there for a holiday
that's just funny as hell i love this video
I would like people to know that all cable cars in San Francisco have batteries in the center of the car underneath the car body. It for the headlights and marker lights and interior lights for night service.
This makes sense. I wonder if they considered running a generator attached to the axel to charge the battery? They can use the rolling wheels to run the lights.
Thanks !! Very neat. James.
Very nice video!!!!
Saw this happen once just below a cross street because some guy who didn't know better cut the cable car off and the driver had to drop the cable to keep from t-boning him. Cable cars get the right of way for a reason.
I love those cable car. Are famous also here in italy by the movies or videogames like Driver.
Right place, right time.
Este sistema de bonds movido por cabos é fantástico! Rio de Janeiro RJ Brasil
I love the cable cars and SF
Cabbie give me a push! LOL!!
Well I will say one thing for them, they certainly came prepared - that truck looked as if it could tackle any problem with all the bits of equipment on it, and as for that 'push panel' on the front. I thought the 'cable cars' were a designated "Historic Landmark" - bit difficult to get rid of things like that, which is what a few people are suggesting whom I presume are 'motor car lovers'.
At 0:10 you can hear a loud metal clang from the grip breaking.
I always wanted to visit San Francisco but nowadays with the extreme runaway homeless people, open drug activity, thefts and robberies, human feces and used drug needles etc. everywhere on the streets no way will I EVER go. I live just south too in L. A. so the travel cost isn't the problem.
This was a good video and all but I want to know what camera/smartphone you used to record this. Possibly an iPhone, due to warmer white balance?
Very well stabilised.
Thank you. I used an iPhone 6s+ for the video. I bumped up the saturation of the video and stabilized it using Final Cut Pro.
It must be a very rare occurrence, I live in The City over a decade and I don't remember ever seeing it happen.
This is why you don't give Thomas the Engine estrogen early in his development
It's oddly satisfying.
Awesome catch seeing that Luke
Great and unique video! Thanks for this share! Greetings from Italy. Ciao, Stefano :-)
the image stabilisation on your camera is awesome
Anurag M D I am pretty good with shooting with my cellphone but I use the stabilization feature on the editing software.
Luke Starkenburg its still cool
imagine if the truck didn't have enough force to lift the cable car up and another cable car rescue truck had to be called
i would be dying of laughter to be honest
That truck is such a nice person
I loved the cable car museum. And also the cable cars :D Bought a pass so I was able to take as many rides as I wanted to :D :D
So do I, I purchased a multi-day pass in the past so I can ride these classic form of transportation as much as I want.
This incident is so rare that they own and employ a truck for doing just that
Looks like that trucks has been converted specific for that job
They have...they have two of those trucks to push the cars when they breakdown...big diesel and an automatic tranny so they can just get behind and push. There is also a tow bar they can hook up to pull a car as well...used on empty cars and when they can start out on a flat surface...takes a lot of torque to move something that heavy...
Cool vidéo
This city always reminds me of Crazy Taxi
For awhile now, steam engines are being fueled by " recycled cooking oil", so there is no sooty black coal smoke, and the air smells like French fries. I wish they'd power the cables with these new types of steam engines and return to the vintage Victorian look, of the original power plants.
Either cable too greazed up, or his clutch clamp got worn out.
awesome cable car.nice tech.
I wonder how much a cable car driver makes
These were a pain in the ass in Driver 1
Over 10 tons uphill only with the truck...
Nice.. i'll go america soon
Any reason it can’t just release its brakes and roll down the hill until the next flat land, grab the cable, and continue up?
Living in SF and never took these. Hell of Expensive. Word of advice for any visitors, The line at Powell and Market is ridiculous and the one at Ghiradelli Square as well. Oh, I spotted AAU lol
my trick was to go up a few stops and then hop on when I visited from Canada.
GiTxSHuM not for illegal immigrants......
懐かしい・・・
79年の夏 以来行ってないな～。
サンフランシスコは素晴らしい街です。私はすべての路面電車、路面電車、電車が大好きです。もう一度訪れてください！
San Francisco is a wonderful city to visit. I love all the streetcars, trams, and trains. You should visit again!
私もそう思います。 世界中の どこにも似てない独特な街並みは アメリカの中で一番好きな場所です。是非40年ぶりに訪れて見よかと思います。
That car and truck should obey all traffic signals just like everyone else.
from the look of the dent in the metal plate this is not the 1st time that truck has had to push a car.
True!
so how does it work. is it just like a long rope that gets pulled around a big loop and then the cable car graps the rope ?
Yes, that's exactly how it works. There's a channel below the street level where the cable runs, and there's a slot between the rails so the car can make a connection to the cable. The car has a device that hangs into the slot to grip the cable. In fact, it's called the grip. Because the cable never stops, the guy operating the car has to release the grip on the cable to stop, and grip it again to start moving again. It's obvious that the grip and cable get a lot of wear on them. They make the grips out of softer material than the cable because it's cheaper to replace grips than the cable. There were cable car systems in most of the larger cities around the world in the 1800's, but every one of them except San Francisco replaced their's as soon as electric streetcars were invented. A cable system needs a lot of maintenance. There are sheaves in the bottom of the slot that keep the cable from dragging on the bottom. There are also a bunch of sheaves in every corner to change the direction of the cable. And all of them are down where dust and dirt can get at them. On the plus side, the cars can be fairly light, and if the system is designed and operated properly, the weight of the cars going down hill will offset the weight of those going up.
that is verry interesting i just learned somthing new today :-)
I don't live in San Francisco, I own a 484 page book titled The Cable Car In America, written by George Hilton, published 1971. It goes into more detail than you'd want to know about cable cars, including descriptions of all the 28 cable car systems that existed in different cities in the U.S. Those cities account for 18 states. If you live in the U.S., it's possible that a city in your state had a cable car system in the 1800's. The book also has a list of 11 cities in other countries that had them. I bought the book from a used book store when I was thinking about making a model cable car system that used a real cable to pull the cars around. I thought it would be neat to have it on a shelf running around my living room. I planned on having the cable exposed below the shelf so people could see it and the sheaves. It would be a noisy thing. I told a friend about my idea, he's a model train nut. He got this look in his eyes like I'd just told him about gold bars in his back yard. I haven't seen him in ages, for all I know he made one by now.
deezynar i might just see if i find that book it sounds really interesting. I live in Denmark and i Think er had some cable cars in Copenhagen but they are gone now. Im not sure if they ran on electricity or cables though
The book doesn't show a cable system in Denmark. There were four in Great Britain, one in Lisbon, and one in Paris. The rest were in Australia and New Zealand. BTW, my dad's mother was full Danish, but born in the U.S. Andersen was her maiden name, her mother's maiden name was Christiansen.
what a roller coaster
I though it was too powerful to climb that little hill (GTA SA)
Nice video.
at 2:36 is that a cablecar crossing? how does that work?
Rose White the cable car operators have to disconnect to the cable and coast through the intersection and then reattach on the other side.
Não sei porque parou ,afinal em Lisboa o eléctrico sobe a calçada toda e para a meio.
Bonito vídeo
Interesting! Around here everyone would have to get off the car. Workers would cone off the area and close off the streets. Wait for the proper permits, push the car to the deport and autopsy the damage. Have the city inspectors check the cables for any damage. Get waivers from the passengers asserting no injuries. And reopen the cable car line for business........3 weeks later.
Only reason I would want to go to San Francisco is to ride the cable car
Ding ding = we are ready
Not that rare. Happens quite often when they have to release the cable to turn a corner.
Nice catch!
Thanks! I was lucky to be there at the right time!
Pushing the Tram with an Strong Truck very Cool
Christian Nicolai I don't think that is strong
They're called "cable cars".
SAME
Good catch...
So many know it all "tram not a cable car" or "tram", idiots or trolls. Good to just ignore them since they seem to fail to know the difference despite the museum tour clearly showing the motive CABLES of the system, but yet the cars are trolleys real or "fake".