Schopenhauer: The World as Will and Idea

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  • Опубликовано: 24 апр 2022
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  • @Sunfried1
    @Sunfried1 4 месяца назад +84

    RIP Dr. Sugrue. You will live on through your teaching .

    • @room9podcast
      @room9podcast 3 месяца назад +2

      So many other people I can think of that I would have rather died than him… like my father… ha ha ha

    • @willmercury
      @willmercury 3 месяца назад

      ​@@room9podcast Your mother and I are working on it.

    • @aristotleinbottle8012
      @aristotleinbottle8012 2 месяца назад +1

      damn. didn't know he is dead. RIP

    • @gerardlabeouf6075
      @gerardlabeouf6075 Месяц назад

      Yeah

  • @robsamartino71
    @robsamartino71 2 года назад +187

    Sugrue’s attitude towards Schopenhauer seems to match Schopenhauer’s attitude towards life

    • @CrazyLinguiniLegs
      @CrazyLinguiniLegs 2 года назад +62

      I have read Schopenhauer’s _World as Will and Representation_ as well as _Parerga and Paralipomena_ and _Essays and Aphorisms,_ and I think Sugrue mischaracterizes Schopenhauer as extremely bitter or sad. It makes me wonder if he has even read Schopenhauer. When I read him, Schopenhauer comes off incredibly honest, objective, and unafraid to acknowledge uncomfortable facts about our existence. Is he always correct? No, not in my opinion. But I don’t think Sugrue or academic philosophers in general have given Schopenhauer his fair due.

    • @robsamartino71
      @robsamartino71 2 года назад +17

      @@CrazyLinguiniLegs I was surprised that he poisoned the well against him so early in his lecture. I have yet to take on Schopenhauer so I cannot really defend him, although most other lectures I’ve heard about him are more enthusiastic. It still interesting to hear Sugrue’s two cents on him even though the admiration isn’t fully there. I’ve recently went through some videos of Bernardo Kastrup discussing Schopenhauer and it’s like an entirely different philosopher is being discussed.

    • @CrazyLinguiniLegs
      @CrazyLinguiniLegs 2 года назад +18

      @@robsamartino71 yes, in my opinion Schopenhauer is well worth the time. I appreciate Sugrue’s videos, but it was a big turnoff to see him come out bashing Schopenhauer-“Is it a philosophy at all? Let’s call it a metaphysics of hell”-utter nonsense. There is some good Schopenhauer material on other youtube channels, for instance “Eternalised” and “Weltgeist”. And as you mentioned there is the Kastrup material.

    • @CrazyLinguiniLegs
      @CrazyLinguiniLegs 2 года назад +4

      @@robsamartino71 also I believe Bryan Magee’s videos are still on youtube.

    • @robsamartino71
      @robsamartino71 2 года назад +3

      @@CrazyLinguiniLegs can’t get enough of Bryan Magee

  • @robertpaulson3674
    @robertpaulson3674 Год назад +93

    The older I get the more I agree with Schopenhauer.

    • @AlbertAlbertB.
      @AlbertAlbertB. 8 месяцев назад +1

      Oh no

    • @dusankrajci6270
      @dusankrajci6270 7 месяцев назад +6

      Eat some magic mushrooms and see what god is for yourself,then let your mind accept it in the coming months after the trip

    • @anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858
      @anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858 7 месяцев назад

      @@dusankrajci6270
      Or you could spend copious amounts of time-space orienting your mind in meditation, contemplation, and -- get this -- prayer. You might personally benefit from chanting (repetitive).
      There can be no short cuts to genuine enlightenment. Carefully open the gate. Crash it not. I promise you I have had revelations thar made the whole known world vanish from known existence. The second one was as a result of doing the daily workbook lessons of A Course In Miracles! Author: Jesus.
      Peace to you brother.

    • @machinmon.
      @machinmon. 5 месяцев назад +1

      Kierkegaard

    • @muellervos1982
      @muellervos1982 4 дня назад

      💯

  • @erictello5189
    @erictello5189 2 года назад +415

    “He’s performed the unusual service of sharing his unhappiness with us” I am honored to have access to your linguistic conceptual illustrations.

    • @JB-ru4fr
      @JB-ru4fr 2 года назад +15

      That also describes comedians like George Carlin.

    • @DickEnchilada
      @DickEnchilada 2 года назад +26

      Schopenhauer was the first emo boi

    • @colonelspicymustard
      @colonelspicymustard 2 года назад +21

      The the amount of vocabulary i’ve picked up from Dr. Sugrue’s lectures alone is ineffable.

    • @jamesbarlow6423
      @jamesbarlow6423 2 года назад +2

      They are cool

    • @TurrisBlancus
      @TurrisBlancus 2 года назад +19

      "For the purposes of discussion, let's consider it the metaphysics from hell."

  • @sanghoonlee5171
    @sanghoonlee5171 2 года назад +421

    When I first encountered Schopenhauer I tought he was a miserable weirdo, an unhappy old fox shouting to the world that life is sour grapes. 10 years later, as I enter my 40s with the fruitless angst of youth behind me, I see where he was coming from. So much of activity in our world arises from wants and lust that seem irresistibly seductive but ultimately fail to reward or fulfill. I do wonder from time to time whether Mother Nature has programmed us to chase futile hopes and mirages just so we will live long enough to reproduce the next generation of fools that will repeat another round of the mad dance.

    • @odetoazam
      @odetoazam 2 года назад +10

      In the Quran it says that God creates life and death to test us and see which of us is better in deeds. Perhaps the dancing is inevitable and we’re monitors to see how much we deviate from the steps that lead to individual and collective harmony ?

    • @helvete_ingres4717
      @helvete_ingres4717 2 года назад

      the difference between you and Schop is that you type this sentiment 'Mother Nature has programmed us to chase futile hopes and mirages just so we will live long enough to reproduce the next generation of fools' to a web server from your computer in the age of scientific postmodernity wherein it's a banality, Rick & Morty etc. - whereas Schop illuminated this vision of existence before Darwin even theorised natural selection

    • @valiata
      @valiata 2 года назад +11

      That is precisely what Schopenhauer said in his "Essays" about the crude, natural states of mind which characterise youth. With living experience comes wisdom, if we are sincere enough to look at ourselves and life with a dispassionate eye.

    • @clockywork
      @clockywork 2 года назад +38

      @@odetoazam the Quran is fiction, my friend.

    • @odetoazam
      @odetoazam 2 года назад +4

      @@clockywork ur not up to date if you think you can make a statement like that. Historians have come around and recognize early Islamic history, Muhammad’s life and what the Quran is. Unfortunately people just adopt a view and that’s all they come to know. But no reason to really learn more because surely you got a life to live and a depraved economy to endure 💙

  • @iart2838
    @iart2838 Год назад +49

    He had the courage to explore the misery of life, makes no excuses or the need to make people feel positive

    • @syphonunfiltered
      @syphonunfiltered 2 месяца назад

      American optimism is antithetical to Schopenhauer

  • @mikelopez9071
    @mikelopez9071 2 года назад +53

    Schopenhauer's insights are so freeing. It's sort of a rock bottom positioning, "I expected it to be this bad and it is, so all I can do now is laugh!"

    • @martinrea8548
      @martinrea8548 2 года назад +2

      Try Samuel Beckett for more of such belly laughs.

    • @4zafinc
      @4zafinc Год назад

      So he invented "So bad, it's good"

    • @marcusfinlayson7215
      @marcusfinlayson7215 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, pessimism is strangely comforting. I got this feeling first from reading Edgar Allan Poe. Just read Schopenhauer’s essays and now contemplating reading the world as will and representation.

    • @Earthad23
      @Earthad23 9 месяцев назад

      Post nut clarity

  • @geoycs
    @geoycs Год назад +127

    I am a great admirer of Sugrue, and love all of his lectures in this series. They are truly wonderful! I must, however, offer a counter position with regard to his approach to Schopenhauer. Schopenhauer is pessimistic, yes, but he is not horrible and scary. Also, I would absolutely recommend to anyone to begin their study of this fascinating and engaging philosopher directly with « The World as Will and Idea . » You will get his passion, erudition, and mastery of philosophy and language in a clear, straightforward way. Why bother starting with anything else? Also, briefly, Schopenhauer concludes profoundly and humanely that compassion is the proper attitude toward the harshness of the world. I think this call for compassion is so meaningful, and is something we would all do well to keep in mind. We all suffer, so let’s have compassion for what others go through.

    • @martiniqi8425
      @martiniqi8425 Год назад +1

      Schopenhauer himself recommends us to read his earlier works like the four roots of sufficient reason, otherwise “leave this book as a decoration in your bookshelf” hahaha

    • @martiniqi8425
      @martiniqi8425 Год назад

      @@VanMan83 how come

    • @geoycs
      @geoycs Год назад +4

      @@martiniqi8425 well, if you want to start with “The Fourfold Root,” be my guest, but to me the “World as Will and Representation” is a much better entry point.

    • @geoycs
      @geoycs Год назад

      @@VanMan83 yes he was. He was unfair toward them, unfortunately. He was pretty cantankerous and ornery! 😊

    • @martiniqi8425
      @martiniqi8425 Год назад

      @@geoycs I agree to that, its kinda hard to understand it without a base though

  • @yarivfreed1098
    @yarivfreed1098 Год назад +16

    Schopenhauer spent his afternoons playing music and his evenings going to plays and concerts. Hardly a man wallowing in misery.

  • @jdzentrist8711
    @jdzentrist8711 Год назад +8

    So ironic, because in spite of everything, Schopenhauer enjoyed life, especially the arts, including obviously music, the theatre, literature and philosophy (except for Hegel!). He loved the pub. On occasion, he "loved" women. He loved food prepared by someone else, and good conversation. He thought the English were the "most intelligent race." Goethe said he "will out-do all of us," and he was right. Amazing, courageous man, no saint, but very few are. Thank you Michael Sugrue and thank you for keeping on keeping on.

  • @meganola7210
    @meganola7210 2 года назад +83

    Dr. Sugrue reminds me of one of those professors who speaks so clearly and concisely that I genuinely enjoy going to their classes, even if I have almost no previous interest in the topic.
    Thank you so much for posting these videos. And please keep uploading more lectures! I genuinely enjoy listening to them.

    • @jungao6470
      @jungao6470 2 года назад +3

      Me, too.

    • @Zsswimmer1
      @Zsswimmer1 Год назад +4

      I definitely understand what you're saying and 100 percent agree, but I found the more I viewed it the more I became interested in the subject itself. Like hearing philosophical lectures through (for example) his Christian lectures would have been a big NOPE from me when I was younger. Not so much anymore
      Plus he is so damn passionate about the topics discussed that I can't help but feel excited as well! Sometimes I have this on the background while reading another book, ADD lol, or going to sleep, and I swear I feel sharper than I have in a long time.
      Daily exercise, a good diet, and a good intellectual diet from professors like Dr Sugrue to make you hungry for more knowledge!
      Professor, I know you probably aren't reading this, I'm just a young man with no degree, but I have never been more interested in these subjects as I have gotten to be this year! 🙏

    • @tergre54
      @tergre54 11 месяцев назад +1

      What was said of Oscar Wilde could be said of Dr. Sugre. 'I never before heard a man talking with perfect sentences, as if he had written them all overnight with labour and yet all spontaneous.'

  • @enlightenedanalysis1071
    @enlightenedanalysis1071 2 года назад +59

    A great lecture with humour injected in. Just to mention that I find Schopenhauer's pessimism soothing and comforting. Also: Nietzsche rejected much of Schopenhauer's pessimistic teachings in the late 1800s. Nietzsche considered Schopenhauer a "decadent" - meaning someone in a state of decay. In fact, Nietzsche wanted us to embrace life and say yes to life - quite the opposite of Schopenhauer. Many thanks again for a wonderful and enjoyable lecture, Michael.

    • @teleofunctionality9246
      @teleofunctionality9246 Год назад +1

      You could say the same about Schopenhauer in that he wanted us to appreciate the beauties of life.

    • @Animalis_Mundana
      @Animalis_Mundana Год назад +6

      Yes and nietzsche went out in a catatonic state, I'd imagine if he was able to write in his final decade he would have agreed much more with Schopenhauer. Nietzsche learned the hard way and went insane.

    • @saintsword23
      @saintsword23 Год назад +14

      Nietzsche went insane because of advanced neurosyphilis. I don't understand how people don't know this at this point.

    • @mingus445_gaming
      @mingus445_gaming 5 месяцев назад

      @@saintsword23 yes, and people take what he wrote at that time to be the sum of his person. Nietzsche was writing more than his worth early on as he was already a professor at age 24.

  • @raymondsamo9808
    @raymondsamo9808 2 года назад +199

    YES! THERE ARE MORE LECTURES?! ❤️

  • @myb4d90
    @myb4d90 2 года назад +60

    I have heard all of the other old lectures and in fact rewarched them so often that I know them a little too well. Being able to listen to a new one is a treat. Thank you very much!

    • @adamroberts9962
      @adamroberts9962 2 года назад +3

      I've watched his Heidegger lecture on Being and Time probably ten times. My favourite!

  • @Ffsdevgj
    @Ffsdevgj 2 года назад +67

    I tought I was alone and crazy… but these ideas have been there in the human psyche for eons.

    • @AnotherDante
      @AnotherDante 2 года назад +17

      Perhaps it's the rest of the world that's gone mad like ostriches constantly drinking from the sweet wells of false hopes and self-deception.

    • @lucasvarela9632
      @lucasvarela9632 2 года назад

      @@AnotherDante your mother

    • @patrickhenry9584
      @patrickhenry9584 Год назад +2

      Read Diomedes 3,000 year old cynic

  • @Balys111
    @Balys111 2 года назад +65

    Ooh, yes!!! I need to find either a DVD set or a digital repository of all of Dr. Sugrue's lectures so I can watch and re-watch, in order.

    • @PreludeDude
      @PreludeDude 2 года назад +17

      I'd pay good money for that set of information... Wait it's free on RUclips already.

    • @Balys111
      @Balys111 2 года назад +10

      @@PreludeDude I would pay for either hard copies or a digital archive of the full, organized set. These lectures are amazing. I just wish I could find a a complete and chronologically-/topically- ordered archive so I can use them to study and build up an organized and comprehensive understanding.

    • @wmvv123
      @wmvv123 2 года назад +28

      I made a playlist with all his lectures, organized by the date of birth of the subject: ruclips.net/p/PLViSFoOWmwpTvvhUHyTgTC8H8M859Fk1Q

    • @Balys111
      @Balys111 2 года назад

      @@wmvv123 Thank you! I'll check it out. Is it comprehensive of his various series or only what's uploaded on YT?

    • @JH-le4sd
      @JH-le4sd 2 года назад

      @@Balys111 I think you can download if you pay for RUclips red.

  • @rogeredwards4871
    @rogeredwards4871 9 месяцев назад +5

    Interesting because as a young man Joseph Campbell changed my life and his favorite philosopher was Schopenhauer

  • @czarquetzal8344
    @czarquetzal8344 2 года назад +14

    To all: Read "The World as Will and Representation" by Arthur Schopenhauer instead of just relying on this lecture.

  • @noureddine715
    @noureddine715 2 года назад +9

    A beautifully constructed lecture; Thank you, Mr. Sugrue.

  • @outofbox000
    @outofbox000 2 года назад +5

    RUclips was made for this stuff. Michael I love you man

  • @yummy2318
    @yummy2318 2 года назад +14

    I love Schopenhauer.

  • @stormrider1375
    @stormrider1375 Год назад +5

    "The world is not a piece of machinery and animals are not manufactured for our use. Such views should be left to synagogues and philosophical lecture-rooms, which in essence are not so very different." - Arthur Schopenhauer

  • @maxnul
    @maxnul 2 года назад +6

    Literally this is a part of this moment of my life when I have the chance to consume this content and it helps me with so many things! Like improve my English, professor Sugrue I love this content and I can’t get enough

  • @KenshoBeats
    @KenshoBeats 2 года назад +5

    Woah, and I thought I had seen all of Sugrue’s lectures, what a treat! 🙏🏼

  • @TPMBernssen
    @TPMBernssen 2 года назад +3

    Thank you! I find myself watching these lectures more and more...

  • @TheDevilsPrank
    @TheDevilsPrank 2 года назад +43

    The best lecturer I've had the pleasure of listening to, not just on RUclips, but in my entire lifetime and 25 years of education.

    • @ErnestRamaj
      @ErnestRamaj 7 месяцев назад

      Marcus Aurelius's one might be better.

    • @TheDevilsPrank
      @TheDevilsPrank 6 месяцев назад

      @@ErnestRamaj it absolutely is! That's his best lecture, so much passion! You'd almost think he's a fanatic. I just decided to comment what I did here instead for some reason.

    • @destihado1
      @destihado1 5 месяцев назад

      I really envy you! What privilege it must have been

    • @TheDevilsPrank
      @TheDevilsPrank 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@destihado1 If the privilege you're talking about is my 25 years of education, let me put your mind at ease. I've learnt more from free lectures and podcasts on RUclips than any class throughout two decades of education.
      If you can't go to University for any reason, don't worry. Many great Professors upload their lectures to RUclips for free (such as this great man). The only real advantage of a University is meeting like minded people, and getting certain jobs that require a degree (although that's going away as well).

    • @destihado1
      @destihado1 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheDevilsPrankby mistake i understood that you had the luck of hearing Dr Sugrue’s lectures in person. My bad! But I agree with you nonetheless :)

  • @thetruthoutside8423
    @thetruthoutside8423 Год назад +4

    Sharing his unhappiness with us is always welcome and for a good reasons and especially nowadays.

  • @davidconroy8554
    @davidconroy8554 Год назад +13

    I met a lad once who was balls deep into Buddhism. He knew all the Upanishads and all the theory. I had a great discussion with him for two or three days comparing Buddhism and Stoicism.
    But then he was telling me a story of how his mother was on her last legs and how his sister started labelling home appliances and furniture with her name. He told me how much it infuriated him and how he had to get financial support to fight a lengthy legal battle with his siblings in the wake of his mothers passing. I sat there listening to him thinking "where the fuck was all the Buddhism? "

    • @davidconroy8554
      @davidconroy8554 Год назад +1

      @Eudaimonia life is perception and our perception is largely determined by our world view. Is the purpose of Buddhism not to change that world view?

    • @lifeisabadjoke5750
      @lifeisabadjoke5750 10 месяцев назад +1

      When is comes to money philosophy ends.

    • @davidconroy8554
      @davidconroy8554 10 месяцев назад

      @@lifeisabadjoke5750 or begins, or perhaps ought to begin. I made a video called "death to all infidels" but I'm being obstructed from posting it, for a good reason I'm sure. I think it actually goes "death to all idolators", if we agree that money and the golden calf are the same thing, who are they?

  • @colts8146
    @colts8146 2 года назад +2

    WOAH I did not know there was more Sugrue lectures he recorded. This is a welcome sight indeed thank you!

  • @thomasdequincey5811
    @thomasdequincey5811 2 года назад +13

    The tracking might be slightly off, but this is still an incredible lecture. It's witty, insightful and interesting.

  • @johnrodgers2018
    @johnrodgers2018 Год назад +6

    I find his philosophy so freeing, enjoying the continual state of striving and self improvement. Knowing I will never be contented is OK.

  • @alreidie
    @alreidie 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for getting us through these soul destroying times, Professor.

  • @shutincinema4050
    @shutincinema4050 2 года назад +4

    What an amazing lecture, which really shouldn't come as a surprise considering Professor Sugrue's track record. I really love how he is able to connect great philosophical thinkers together whilst providing context for how they relate to (and are different from) each other. After watching this I am definitely going to revisit the Freud and Nietzsche lectures again.

    • @isaachester8475
      @isaachester8475 2 года назад +1

      Yeah it’s been very cool to see how all the pieces fit together. There are so many philosophers with so many works, it’s often easy to miss the contexts in which they were written. Dr. Sugrue is doing us a great service by painting a cohesive picture.

  • @username1235400
    @username1235400 2 года назад +3

    These lectures enrich life. Very grateful for this amazing content. As always - Thank you!

  • @aragustin
    @aragustin Год назад

    Thank you oh so much for for these uploads, just came across them and I'm very glad I clicked the suggested video.
    Thank you for your time, effort and good intentions, greetings from Chile

  • @Dino_Medici
    @Dino_Medici Год назад

    Thanks for the lectures man. All the other lectures are in one ear out the other. But i actually remember and am easily able to conceptualize everything you say. It’s a miracle!

  • @oldsachem
    @oldsachem 2 года назад +6

    My whole family met tragedy in 20th century US through no fault of their own. Consequently, my life has been a will to laughter with flat affect.

  • @dialaskisel5929
    @dialaskisel5929 2 года назад +13

    Thank you for the lecture. Schopenhauer is fun :)
    I will say, as a Buddhist convert, I did cringe a little bit at the slight conflation of ideas regarding the Noble Truths. It is an honest and easy mistake to make, though, especially as one looking from the outside in at Buddhism.
    The "Eight noble truths" are actually the Four Noble Truths and they are (In a simplified way)
    1: Suffering - Life (the Human condition) is suffering and it is defined by both pain and the chronic inability to be satisfied.
    2: Desire or Attachment - That suffering arises from human desires and attachments to transient things (For example, the fear of death and aging are born of attachments to life and youthful vitality, respectively)
    3: Cessation - That you can be liberated from suffering by limiting or renouncing Desires and Attachments.
    4: The Noble Eightfold Path - That you can follow the Noble Eightfold Path (a topic in itself, to summarize: basically being responsible with your life, being mindfully attentive to the present, practicing meditation, and adopting and fostering "right views" about the nature of and your relationship to reality)
    It should also be noted that it is a bit of a misperception to consider Buddhist practices and teachings as strictly ascetic and hopelessly pessimistic. Buddhism is called "The Middle Way" as it discourages the extremes of sensual pleasure-seeking AND extreme asceticism. A sort of wise moderation on most things in life is encouraged by many branches of Buddhism. As far as being pessimistic is concerned: Suffering is a reality of the human condition, but the point of Buddhist practice (especially in Mahayana Buddhism) is to overcome suffering so that one can experience Nirvana in this life and live and happy and fulfilled life.

    • @Andre-bi3gq
      @Andre-bi3gq 2 года назад +2

      Thanks for the detailed comment. Which book should I read to learn more?

    • @dialaskisel5929
      @dialaskisel5929 2 года назад +2

      @@Andre-bi3gq First and foremost I'd recommend listening to some of the lectures by Alan Watts (you can find many of his lectures for free on RUclips). He is a British Zen Buddhist, and comes at Buddhism (and Hinduism) more from the direction of western philosophy. That was my own introduction, he brings things down to earth in an easily digestible way (and he is pleasant to listen to).
      For looking into Buddhism itself more directly, one must keep in mind that there are two drastically divergent branches, each of which have their own texts and spin on practices.
      The first branch is "Theravada" or "School of the Elders" and it is the more traditionalist form of Buddhism. Its main text is the "Pali Canon". This branch tends to cleave a bit more closely to the letter of the specific teachings laid down in the earliest Buddhist traditions. From what I understand, it tends to be a bit more methodologically focused, with diligent practice of the many specific teachings leading to a sort of ordered gradual enlightenment over many years of practice. The "Mindfulness" movements that have sprung up in the west are more directly descended from this branch of Buddhism.
      The second (and beyond, as this branch splits off in numerous directions) branch is called "Mahayana" or "The Great Vehicle", and it is a later development that diverges from some of the older doctrines. It doesn't have a "main text" per se, but its refutation of earlier forms of Buddhism is laid out in its early texts like "The Lotus Sutra" (which I wouldn't recommend getting into unless you are deeply into the scholarship. It almost exclusively concerned with countering and putting down the earlier Buddhist tradition and is otherwise a rather repetitive and dry affair). Mahayana focuses a little more on the Metaphysics of nonduality and Anatman (no Self), and how an understanding of those underlying concepts and their implications can be a path to enlightenment and Nirvana in this life. It also focuses on the "Bodhisattva vehicle", which is a path that focuses on ultimately becoming a Buddha, so that one can liberate all sentient beings from suffering. Tibetan Buddhism and Zen (which I personally follow) spring from this branch, and their paths are drastically different from one another. If you'd like an introduction to Mahayana concepts I'd encourage reading The Diamond Sutra and The Heart Sutra. They are both extremely short but get straight to the point, and do so quite eloquently.
      I know I rambled on a bit, but I hope that helps :)

    • @shaunkerr8721
      @shaunkerr8721 2 года назад +1

      It's the middle way so what are the pleasure seeking beliefs of Buddhism which moderate its ascetic actions?

    • @dialaskisel5929
      @dialaskisel5929 2 года назад +1

      @@shaunkerr8721 It varies in different schools of Buddhism. Some schools emphasize a stricter interpretation of the Eightfold Path than others, especially if you have taken vows and are a part of a monastery.
      The story goes that Siddhartha Gautama (the founder of Buddhism) initially abandoned the life of a decadent prince after having something of an existential crisis and pursued a spiritual path that led to self-mortification. There are stories of him eating only a single grain of rice a day in his ascetic pursuits and that his bones were visible under his skin due to how emaciated he had become.
      He then realized that this wasn't the true path, so he abandoned his ascetic discipline, accepting a generous offer of rice pudding from a passing village girl, leading to his fellow ascetics becoming scandalized by his lack of discipline and initially abandoning him. It was shortly after this that he meditated beneath the Bodhi tree for a time until he attained full enlightenment.
      So, instead of extreme ascetic self-denial, the Eightfold path emphasizes something more akin to healthy living advice, and even in the path itself there can be a bit of ambiguity and interpretation.
      Speaking from Zen, I've watched a few Zen initiation ceremonies (at a Zen school in America, so it is less intense and monastery focused), and they are always rather fascinating. After the initiates take their vows, the teacher then clarifies some of the vows and encourages the initiates to use the Eightfold path as a sort of primer for introspection instead of hard rules with the line "We observe the precepts through breaking them".
      For example, there is a precept to avoid intoxicating substances... But what defines an intoxicating substance is open to interpretation (as even abstract things like pride can be intoxicating from a certain perspective). The teacher then lightly commented that the point is to avoid being intoxicated to the point that there is a hangover (in other words, that the point of avoiding intoxicating substances is to avoid the consequences you can experience from consuming intoxicating substances, it is not just an arbitrary rule that has to be followed for its own sake).
      The way I see Zen, ascetic practices are done solely to aid one in developing healthy self-control and a healthier perspective on life. If the practices begin to cause unnecessary pain or are otherwise pointlessly arbitrary and inappropriate, then they should be abandoned or limited, as ultimately the point is to live a happier life.

    • @wantanamera
      @wantanamera 2 года назад +3

      There are many different ways of interpreting the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama, what you listed is just your way (or your teacher’s way) of interpreting them.

  • @OpenmusicEs
    @OpenmusicEs 2 года назад +5

    Very useful briefing of Schopenhauer's ideas. One missing and very important aspect is his view of animal suffering under human rule.

  • @WilliamsWrestlin
    @WilliamsWrestlin Год назад +3

    My favorite Philosopher.

  • @PhaedrusPollux
    @PhaedrusPollux 2 года назад +1

    Fantastic, was just revisiting Schopenhaur recently, and I had regret that there wasn't a video from Professor Sugrue.

  • @daudkaun3807
    @daudkaun3807 4 месяца назад +9

    RIP Professor. I am heartbroken.

  • @eartgmutha
    @eartgmutha 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for being my philosophy lecturer- fabulous and fascinating

  • @fascistphilosophy5649
    @fascistphilosophy5649 6 месяцев назад +1

    It's so beautiful that Schopenhauer was this perfectly sour complement to Hegel. I am reaching enlightenment via Schopenhauer-Hegelian model, reporting back influenced by modern western Hindu-Buddhist gurus. The real 'I' is the Absolute; this egoic self is merely a whirlwind of ... will. ... Hell is confusing the latter for the prior... This lecture is truly pinnacle of reality, thanks so much Sugrue

  • @drainel9707
    @drainel9707 2 года назад +2

    These are great videos. I wish Bob Solomon was still alive. He produced great lectures with the same video company. I wish they were preserved on youtube in the same way Dr Sugrue has been doing

  • @nobodynowhere7163
    @nobodynowhere7163 2 года назад

    A lecture on Schopenhauer by Prof. Sugrue! Awesome!

  • @adamroberts9962
    @adamroberts9962 2 года назад

    Saw this and knew my day would get better!

  • @RNCM_Philosophy
    @RNCM_Philosophy 2 года назад +3

    Been waiting for this! Send my thanks to Dr Sugrue for uploading this

  • @m_b_lmackenzie4510
    @m_b_lmackenzie4510 2 года назад +1

    This makes my day, thanks for sharing this.

  • @tjackskogen9304
    @tjackskogen9304 Год назад +4

    This is one of the best lectures on philosophical subjects i have ever seen. He explains the topics clearly and eloquently yet doesn't needlessly convolute things all the while not dumbing anything down. This should be mandatory viewing for any would be lecturer in all subjects.

  • @rioter6944
    @rioter6944 2 года назад +1

    this was incredibly insightful what a beautiful way of thinking of consciousness his thoughts show an inverse vacuum of what it means to be a sentient being

  • @joshvanschaick4896
    @joshvanschaick4896 Год назад

    Love these lectures! Thanks Professor!

  • @2012dxb
    @2012dxb Год назад +1

    Wonderful lecture. I'm grateful to you.

  • @zhengyangwu8289
    @zhengyangwu8289 2 года назад

    This is the greatest lecturer I have ever listened to!

  • @Nooreazy
    @Nooreazy 2 года назад

    I love these Lectures. Thank you

  • @bestman911
    @bestman911 2 года назад +13

    Such a generous man! We can't thank you enough for sharing your invaluable lectures, Prof. Sugrue!

  • @albertoscalici8235
    @albertoscalici8235 2 года назад

    As always, thank you so much, professor!

  • @Girlinterrupted955
    @Girlinterrupted955 2 года назад +3

    "We are a bundle of desires and a collection of answers. Our desires never get satisfied and our questions never get answered."

  • @voyagersa22
    @voyagersa22 2 года назад +4

    A new lecture ☺️What a Pleasant surprise.

  • @davidfulton3287
    @davidfulton3287 2 года назад +3

    So glad RUclips is giving a new generation the pleasure of listening to Dr. Sugrue.

  • @MrXYZMEE
    @MrXYZMEE 7 месяцев назад

    This man is the best teacher I've ever seen.

  • @dionysian222
    @dionysian222 2 года назад +7

    It’s easier to chastise poor ol Schopenhauer than to prove his point of view wrong!

  • @svengroot3909
    @svengroot3909 Год назад +1

    What a gem of a professor to discover on a monday morning

  • @mikemcdermott393
    @mikemcdermott393 2 года назад

    Oh hell yeah, Geistmaster Sugrue back at it. Bless up today

  • @fernandohaddadjunqueira8339
    @fernandohaddadjunqueira8339 2 года назад

    Thank God! Greetings from Brazil

  • @Alacard0malley
    @Alacard0malley Год назад +2

    Thank you for having the wherewithall to record these lectures they are brilliant

  • @thomasdcat3463
    @thomasdcat3463 2 года назад

    A great instructor on all subjects 👏

  • @angelferreira1746
    @angelferreira1746 2 года назад +1

    Dr. Sugrue must have been a great dude to go to a bar with. Please continue enlightening me as I drown my existential dread in these pints.

  • @ChristmasFace
    @ChristmasFace 2 года назад +17

    This lecture couldn't be any more timely; I've just started reading the World As Will And Idea, and Dr. Sugrue is really helping to clear up my confusion on Schopenhauer's metaphysics!

    • @blix4199
      @blix4199 2 года назад +11

      I suggest you read Bryan Magee’s commentaries on Schopenhauer as a counterpoint to Dr Sugrue’s rather glib dismissal

    • @OpenmusicEs
      @OpenmusicEs 2 года назад +1

      @@blix4199 I will definitely read that one. Thanks for the info.

    • @OpenmusicEs
      @OpenmusicEs 2 года назад +3

      I'd say Dr. Sugrue's reading is excellent but a bit bias towards the dark side of Schopenhauer's writings. I consider his complete works (after having read them) to be a monumental set of ideas full of living force (not exactly pessimistic).

    • @yarnboyjr3909
      @yarnboyjr3909 2 года назад +2

      @@OpenmusicEs where there is a dark aspect to Schopenhauer there is also a revelation - questions that arise after reading his book and answers. Such as inspirations, rationale, temperament, and also Schopenhauer will and representation really has a great psychological aspect.

    • @paulheinrichdietrich9518
      @paulheinrichdietrich9518 2 года назад +2

      @@OpenmusicEs I would also recommend Copleston's "Schopenhauer, philosopher of Pessimism" as a companion and counterpoint to Magee's book.

  • @inodororevi
    @inodororevi 2 года назад

    cant thank you enough michael .

  • @le2380
    @le2380 2 года назад

    I have been waiting for this one!

  • @kaydijdrahblack5529
    @kaydijdrahblack5529 2 года назад +1

    So grateful for this lecture.

  • @dan_76
    @dan_76 2 года назад

    That was amazing, thank you.

  • @renemars-lunn4112
    @renemars-lunn4112 Год назад +1

    These videos are really good

  • @blingpup21
    @blingpup21 Год назад +5

    Can we reflect for a moment on how good this lecturer is.

  • @samadhi5
    @samadhi5 2 года назад +11

    Ah, the esteemed Dr. Sugrue. With a cavernous cranial capacity, versatile vocabulary, and erudite explication of the corpus of Western philosophy, the good doctor is my preferred choice for instruction in the minutiae of the this realm we inhabit, which is called the universe. Thank you, Dr. Sugrue. 😊 👍

    • @maxdawes73
      @maxdawes73 2 года назад +7

      lotta big words there bucko

    • @samadhi5
      @samadhi5 2 года назад +6

      Thank you, but my preferred informal appellation in an instance such as this is fella, rather than bucko.

    • @gerhitchman
      @gerhitchman 2 года назад

      Wow thats a lot of big words u must be really smrt

  • @WhiteWolf--
    @WhiteWolf-- 2 года назад +3

    After watching all of the other ones multiple times, seeing a "new" one of these just made my freaking week! Thank you!!!
    Also, is it just me or is the audio out of sync? Not a big deal just noticing

  • @josephasghar
    @josephasghar 2 года назад

    Keep ‘em coming!

  • @karenjohnston9201
    @karenjohnston9201 6 месяцев назад

    Was surprised to find the judgment and opinion about Schopenhauer- have just found Dr. Segrue and have been amazed at the clarity and help he offers in meeting philosophy so late in my life.
    This one is different - de doesn’t seem to find compassion for this philosopher so as to offer a cleaner perspective. It feels a bit like it hit a fear in him with no way out.
    Will continue to learn more as Dr. Sugrue has so much to share. Thank you.

  • @georgebyrne3925
    @georgebyrne3925 2 года назад +3

    I was hoping this one would be located. Very nice!

  • @clockywork
    @clockywork 2 месяца назад +1

    "It's hard to think anyone more relentlessly pessimistic than Schopenhauer."
    *Thomas Ligotti entered the chat*

  • @Littlebighottie
    @Littlebighottie 2 года назад +3

    I’ve been missing a lecture of Schopenhauer by the great Dr. Sugrue! I am delighted to see this

  • @michaelpattiani7230
    @michaelpattiani7230 2 года назад +1

    Hooray this makes my day

  • @silverkeystoalchemicalgold3358
    @silverkeystoalchemicalgold3358 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for posting this, Dr Sugrue. I spend a lot of my workouts listening to this lecture series on x1.5 speed
    Always excellent content and I’m excited to watch this despite my familiarity with the content

  • @yeyoreview5661
    @yeyoreview5661 Год назад +2

    This is a professor, someone who makes you think, peaks clearly, you learn, you feel like you must look for more information and makes you seek knowledge not make it a task, he makes knowledge seen like a necesity of human existence which it is, school only tells you you must learn in order to do this, philosophy makes you want to know the world and comprehend it better, its a way of life.

  • @iart2838
    @iart2838 Год назад

    Love this guy's lectures 😍

  • @bonfacekyalo9603
    @bonfacekyalo9603 Год назад

    Your lectures are extraordinary

  • @henhound
    @henhound 2 года назад +8

    Great lecture. But he completely skips Schopenhauer's conception of morality ie: compassion. Also I think its important to mention Schopenhauer's influence on Charles Darwin.

  • @3rdcoastnyucka
    @3rdcoastnyucka 2 года назад +373

    This is biased from the beginning. He was not a “one-trick pony,” and his ideas are not “unpleasant” or “off-putting.” He combined Kant’s transcendental idealism with eastern philosophy, and wrote in a lovely, clear prose, unlike 99 percent of philosophers. He was an artist who understood the value of art. There’s a reason Tolstoy said he spent an amazing summer reading The World as Will and Representation.

    • @3rdcoastnyucka
      @3rdcoastnyucka 2 года назад +78

      Also, not mentioned: Schopenhauer wrote his magnum opus in his 20s and never swayed. He was a man who had an idea, and it never wavered, all the way to the grave.

    • @3rdcoastnyucka
      @3rdcoastnyucka 2 года назад +60

      He was also a promoter of peace, which was not mentioned. He thought that doing others wrong was the same as doing wrong to yourself, because we’re all part of the same, larger, combined will. This was a terrible analysis. Open book 2 of The World as Will and Representation (skip book 1), and see for yourself.

    • @isaachester8475
      @isaachester8475 2 года назад +52

      Yeah, I always thought Schopenhauer’s philosophy was rather comforting. It’s like he’s saying “We’re all suffering together so let’s try not to make it worse for each other.” It brings about a sort of kinship. The idea of the Will is truly brilliant and insightful, a very interesting response to Kant. Though I side more with Nietzsche in thinking that life is awesome and we should treasure it and also not demonize our desires.
      Dr. Sugrue seems to have a particular distaste for Schopenhauer which is understandable given all his other deficits, like misogyny. But it does us well to appreciate the good in things.

    • @Henchgirl7342
      @Henchgirl7342 2 года назад +31

      I think we have to cut the him some slack. He's a university professor
      Someone like Marx might call it a class interest

    • @triggerwarningtruthjustfor5433
      @triggerwarningtruthjustfor5433 2 года назад +33

      That’s an understatement, he is a brilliant lecturer but seems to have a virulent personal dislike to Schopenhauer.

  • @11dsky78
    @11dsky78 2 года назад +1

    This is best place to start Philosophy. There is a need of more to delve into Schopenhauer philosophy to understand him better.

  • @TonyLouis9345
    @TonyLouis9345 4 месяца назад

    Schopenhauer is one of my favorite philosophers. He is brilliant, innovative, insightful and original. Readers often miss his wonderful sense of humor. I often find myself in stiches as I come upon his wry and witty remarks. Kant puts me to sleep. Schopenhauer wakes me up and keeps me laughing. He would have been a wonderful standup comedian. I like the way Sugrue comments about Schopenhauer's influence on Freud. I wish he talked more about Schopenhauer's influence on modern physics, especially Einstein's theory of relativity and the whole field of Quantum Physics.

  • @j.k.cascade2057
    @j.k.cascade2057 4 месяца назад +1

    Professor Sugrues passing is a tragedy. I feel now that the world has become a lesser place.

  • @betelgeuse6617
    @betelgeuse6617 2 года назад

    The one i was waiting for

  • @abbeymaeliam1
    @abbeymaeliam1 2 года назад +5

    This lecture is a bit of a misrepresentation of Schopenhauer. I'd recommend anyone watching to go to the source. In the man's own words: "Life before text. Text before commentary."

  • @GodsGrieff
    @GodsGrieff 2 года назад +5

    I was wondering if there was ever a lecture about old grumpy Arrhur
    Now there is...thank you!

  • @consumeentertainment9310
    @consumeentertainment9310 Месяц назад

    What a great communicator!!!

  • @lukescriven827
    @lukescriven827 5 месяцев назад

    Dr. Sugrue is an absolute legend!

  • @jwallguitar
    @jwallguitar 2 года назад +8

    Schopenhauer!! Let’s get dark yo!! Woot 🤙🏼

  • @henriqueyoh
    @henriqueyoh 24 дня назад

    great teacher

  • @ryans3001
    @ryans3001 2 года назад

    Thank You!