NO BUT I GET IT! I was so insecure about my knees when I was 13!! I vividly remember looking in the mirror years later once I got taller and leaner and thinking “oh my god. I have the knees I always wanted.” And it’s so weird like I don’t know where that insecurity even came from
I’ve heard that they also worry about calves. A friend of mine who lived in SK for 3 years said that a lot of women would get surgery on their calves to get them more shape and honestly now that I know that exist I might try it cause I’ve had nonexistent calves that just won’t come out of hiding no matter how much I work out my legs lol
It's so sad, I found myself at one point wanting knees that were wider/knocked because I thought it paired great with skinny legs 😭. It's like I saw my body as the clothing itself if that makes any sense lol
@@gabriellegay4097 omgggg I was insecure about my knees too!! I thought they were ugly and looked dirty because they were much darker than the rest of my legs, and I had a bunch of scars on my knees too. I didn’t like the back of my knees and legs. I have no clue where that insecurity came from either like I don’t recall anyone insulting my knees lol
The story is pretty old- way back from 2011. The girl got taken away from her mother, but I couldn't find any news on how she is now and how it affected her
facts fr. people don’t realize botox is literally a neurotoxin... putting it into a child’s system when their brain is still developing is so not ok /:
That's what I was thinking. And how her "mom" is making her feel like she has wrinkles at that age is gonna be horrible for that poor girls self self esteem. It hurts my heart. Some people shouldn't be allowed to have kids. 😥
@@nthuthukomdluli1052 shaming people is never the way to go - encouraging people to be proud of their real bodies and to avoid using filters which create literally impossible standards is a better option Body modification is a normal part of life - hair dye, ear piercings, tattoos, makeup, shaving, plucking, it's all body modification and it makes no sense to try and shame people for it Filters are not body modification, they're computer images
Her losing parts of her memory from the anesthesia is terrifying. There are other side effects like hair loss. I noticed after one of my surgeries that I was losing quite a bit of hair, my hair stylist pointed it out and actually told me that this is a common thing that happens.
@@v.c.nguyen590 @Alex after a stressful event (defined as physical things like surgery/trauma/major illness/after childbirth AND also emotional stress), your hair can fall out. it's called telogen effluvium. normally your hair grows in organized phases (parts of a cycle) of growth/rest, but in telogen effluvium your hair spends a little too long in the telogen, or.rest, phase, and the hair follicles in that rest phase fall out. generally your hair will grow back after some time or, if a condition contributing to the hair loss is present, with correction of that underlying condition. it's easily diagnosed and recognizable when compared to other types of hair loss so if this worries you i would recommend speaking with your doctor beforehand if you want and definitely afterwards if you start to notice hair loss. also for completeness: telogen effluvium can also be caused by hormonal imbalances, nutritional deficiencies, some medications, autoimmune conditions, and infectious disease. tl;dr it's common and treatable, so please speak to a medical professional if you have concerns! references: Phillips TG, Slomiany WP, Allison R. Hair Loss: Common Causes and Treatment. Am Fam Physician. 2017; 96(6): p.371-378. pmid: 28925637. Chien Yin GO, Siong-See JL, Wang ECE. Telogen Effluvium - a review of the science and current obstacles. J Dermatol Sci. 2021; 101(3): p.156-163. doi: 10.1016/j.jdermsci.2021.01.007
@@crystalclearh2o397 this is probably one of my favorite RUclips replies out of all that I've ever gotten, I love how clearly and thoroughly you explained it and the fact that you even included references is just *chefs kiss* 🧑🍳👌💋 amazing. I really appreciate the effort you put in and love that I learned something new today :)
Teaching a child to be embarrassed and defined by their imperfections is setting them up for a life of never being satisfied with who they are, and putting them at direct risk of becoming another Oli London.
Except this is the reality. People are bullied and judged for how they look. If you’re not average or above then life is hell. Of course some people do go extreme, but most don’t. Oli London is doing it for attention, not to fit into society.
Yo that mom giving her kid that look when she admitted to not knowing why she gets Botox is crazy. Someone needs to taker her kid away, it’s practically abuse.
My ballet instructor gave us laxatives and eating disorders as children, literal children... I had to be no older than 10 when she told me I needed to start skipping dinner because I was starting to develop.
same here, I remember my ballet teacher always holding on with a crazy grip on my hips once I started my period... as if she were trying to pinch off the fat or something. so so weird.
Same! my instructor treated the more skinny and younger children better, every monday she measured us and start telling us: you'll need to be more skinny if you want to do this choreography (or be able to stuff that didn't have anything to do with being skinny to perform better). I left the classes after I hurt my back trying to force myself to have more elasticity (because my instructor always force elasticity on us, never gave us exercises to develop it naturally), I was just a preteen back then, and during years I struggle with my self-esteem/weight alongside my back injury.
As an esthetician, at least in my state, we cannot administer Botox. It's considered a cosmetic procedure and must be administered by a licensed medical professional. I can't believe that woman is giving her daughter Botox injections. She's way too young for that, I can't even wax someone's eyebrows if they're under 10, so the idea of giving a literal child Botox is horrifying to me. Also I feel bad for that girl who got all that surgery that young. If she's happy, then that's fine, but she should've never have been made to feel like she had to change to be accepted, and it sucks that that is how this world works. Society man.
I feel for the little girl at the end, the fact that she doesn't even know what botox does is what breaks my heart. She's still little and doesn't need it, and her mother should be ashamed at herself for exposing her kid to plastic surgery at such a young age.
My parents have been pushing the idea of getting a rhinoplasty since I was 12 bc I was terribly bullied (not only by classmates but my family too). Pretty privilege exists all around the world
I am so sorry that is so mean and unsupportive. They should accept you, adore you, love you for who you are. Your physical appearance shouldn’t need to change, and no one should insult you or encourage you to change your body. It’s yours and it comes from your parents/family; your features are what make you unique. Maybe they have insecurities about large noses, but it’s not fair to take that out on you or push you to get surgery- especially not when you’re so young. Your nose should be accepted and even appreciated, not ridiculed and altered to become something different that doesn’t belong to you/match you/reflect who you are and where you come from. I hope both you and your family will come to embrace your nose and celebrate who you are.
I'm glad you haven't done it! I also got bullied for my Roman nose in school, but it suits me, looks kinda elegant, and hasn't affected my dating prospects at all. Keeping it almost feels like a rebellious act the way society is so concerned with "fixing" any nose that's not a perfect little slope. It's important to show people that other noses are not inherently ugly ❤️
You have to do what's right for you. Don't worry about what others think about your choice. It's your body. Whether you embrace or change, you're still you and deserve to be treated with kindness and respect.
I’m so sorry that you’ve gone through this. Bullying in any form is so awful. I’m similar to you as I was bullied by my father and at school for my appearance. The beauty standard is so subjective and biased and it totally distorts the way people think. I’m most likely older than you as I grew up before the social media age and have insecurities. I feel for the younger generation having to look perfect when they reach puberty. The standard is so racially and gender biased that it’s sickening. I still can’t get over the sweet little girl getting Botox at 8!
Speaking of this girl, I actually did some research on her on the Chinese part of the internet. First of all, she's not really an influencer. The only influence she has is getting people to diss her in the comments of various videos and comments sections I saw. I couldn't find any channels by her anywhere, so I'm guessing that it has been taken down. Here's an excerpt from an article that I found. Note that because this article was written in article format, it is far kinder and attempts to be more neutral than the actual reaction of most Chinese people's. "Many years ago, a 13-year-old girl caused a lot of heated discussion on the Internet because of her plastic surgery, and her appalling behavior also taught the majority of netizens a lesson. The 13-year-old girl named Nana has a wealthy family. Under the influence of her mother, she is more concerned about her appearance since she was a child. Before her plastic surgery, although her appearance was not stunning, she also had the purity and generosity of a young girl, which can never be described as ugly. Later, at a young age, she was not satisfied with her appearance, so she had the idea of plastic surgery. Because her parents were fond of her since she was a child, when she had this idea, she did not obstruct it, and even supported her. From the whole eye to the whole face, in 3 years, a total of 60 times before and after, costing nearly one million yuan. During the period, she also shared her plastic surgery process and experience on the online platform, and gradually became a small Internet celebrity. Because of her plastic surgery, she was criticized and ridiculed by her peers. Not only did she drop out of school at the age when she should have received education, but she also frequently traveled to various places for post-operative recovery and endured post-operative physical pain. This kind of physical and psychological torture, as well as the sequelae caused by multiple operations, Nana fully accepted and said that it was worth it, and she did not regret it and enjoyed it. Even more obsessed and confident about her appearance after plastic surgery. Now she has a pair of overly large eyes, a straight nose, and a pointed chin, just like a Barbie face. Compared with the past, there is no trace of the original. Let's not talk about whether this face is really good-looking, but it is definitely not harmonious. It is estimated that even the most basic facial expressions cannot be made smooth and natural."
This makes me so so sad :( this poor girl just needed love. Sometimes I struggle to smile but imagine it physically being a pain… I wonder if she’s really happy
@@angeliquewu8318 that's not love......... if you loved your child you would not let them indulge in plastic surgery instead of getting her help for her mental illness. She needed help, not surgery.
Lorry Hill has talked about this after Bella Hadid admitted to getting plastic surgery at 14. Basically, she says that Hollywood people that grew up in the bubble, start tweaking their features really early. They'll just say it's puberty.
The Hadid sisters interactions with their mom about food are horrifying so I can only imagine what Yolanda was saying behind closed doors to both of them. Not to mention her blatant preference for Gigi’s appearance when Bella wasn’t modeling yet. It’s all so gross.
This is super prevalent in Kpop now, many girls debuting as young as 13 or 14 and seeing their "before pics" floors me because its obvious they got work done so young.
It blew my mind to learn that Dove Cameron got surgery fairly young. I genuinely thought that was her natural face on Disney channel but she’s one of the Hollywood kids who got procedures young too… And now she’s vocal about how she really struggles with her appearance ):… and she’s STILL quite young.
Isn’t getting plastic surgery at 13 extremely dangerous tho? I remember doctors saying as we grow older the face still develops so over time it will prob look worse.
@@hnibuns no it is dangerous because your frontal lobe of the brain finishes developing at 25 which is why people at told to have plastic surgery after 25. If you getting before it might effect you brain especially in the future .The frontal lobes are important for voluntary movement, expressive language and for managing higher level executive functions.It might not effect her now but she’ll have trouble in the future when she’s older
@@hnibuns no it is dangerous because your frontal lobe of the brain finishes developing at 25 which is why people at told to have plastic surgery after 25. If you getting before it might effect you brain especially in the future .The frontal lobes are important for voluntary movement, expressive language and for managing higher level executive functions.It might not effect her now but she’ll have trouble in the future when she’s older
The beauty standard in Asia is insane. I live in Indonesia, I've seen a lot of job ads that include good looking/attractive as a requirement or preference, especially for barista for some reason? It's also uncommon to see job ads for doctors/health care providers that include said requirement. It's weird because I think patients wouldn't really care about the doctor's look as long as they're clean, neat, gets the job done and they're using protective suit anyway with mask and all that 💀
Hold on I live in Indonesia too and I didn't know those requirements existed???? Man I'm still just just a highschooler and I'm already afraid I wouldn't get jobs because I don't fit the beauty standard
@@scramblecore9156 sadly it's true, although I think it also heavily depended on the work field, for example technical jobs don't typically require the candidates to be good looking, but jobs like marketing, public relations, secretary and even cashier or admin staff are most likely to include it as a requirement. Anyways good luck in your study! 👍
WOW! This is a whole new level of toxic and sad. I feel bad for her that she has gone through this and the crap she dealt with pre-surgery. Beauty standards are out of control! She looks like an anime character in pictures but those videos of her……. Woah.
She wasn't bullied into changing her appearance. It was her that got plastic surgery, and then her classmates started to isolate her. Idk where Edvasion got his info, but it wasn't the original source, because I actually did some research into this on the Chinese internet where the OG sources are, and there's a lot he said that was wrong.
Changing appearance happened because her parents allowed it and paid for it. I would've never thought of plastic surgery as a kid when I was bullied or hated my appearance because I was(still am) poor. Blame the parents and social media for enabling this behavior and mindset.
@@nathalieli7617 There was a show, an American or British one, I think where they give free plastic surgery to kids under 18 because they were being bullied in school about their appearance but couldn't afford any procedures. So yeah, a lot of kids must have thought about it. Btw social media is just an outlet for society. Good luck trying to change anything if your focus is on social media rather than society itself.
That's not true. Your brain never 'finishes developing'. It's not cake. It doesn't go "ping!" and stop cooking. The study behind that myth was poorly done; basically the guy never scanned any brain older than 25 so he just put that down as the 'done' date. Your brain is extremely plastic, it is always changing and developing. @@ima.m.1658
Fr, if a brain stops developing at 24-25 then that is the age were we can trust someone's judgement on making the type of permanent decision that will change the rest of your life forever.
Zhao's story is like messed-up and sad version of K-drama "True Beauty" where she discovered the "power of plastic surgery" instead of "power of makeup" to run away from her past trauma and become this new persona.
@@fakeituntilkingdomcome I actually liked that one, becasue it showed the psychological effects it had on the fml, and a broader scope of this phenomenon. It changed my views on plastic surgery a little bit, as well as how complex society is and its expectations from ppl. I can only recommend.
The first time I heard of plastic surgery was 8th grade. A girl I saw on the bus told me her parents signed her up to get her nose done. It was a bit too soon. She had to get it redone because she grew a bit more. I finally figured out that her Dad got his nose done and signed her up because she had inherited his nose shape. She looked great but it really threw her for a loop that her parents wanted to change her face
When that kid was asked why she needs botox, then her mom mouthed something to her and the kid smiled in this pretty, complacent way at the interviewer - it reminded me of Jenette McCurdy's book; she said that she learned how to look content and happy for her mother, and then for the filming crew and audiences. How she would endure any crazy sht her mother forced her to do, always with a cute, pleasant smile, so as not to show even the slightest negative emotion.
As a mom I'm absolutely horrified that ANY parents would allow their children to get non medically needed botox or plastic surgery. They child will never be able to know what they would actually look like once they reach adulthood, and also have a lifetime of mental problems caused by the insecurities the parents placed upon them. The botox mom needs to have CPS called on her.
I’m glad that woman pointed out that she never thought her gums showing when she smiles/talks was a bad thing, until someone mentioned it. I think a lot of people still have trouble noticing this when they perceive certain features as a “flaw”. It’s possible to go your entire life being okay with how something looks, unless someone else draws attention to it in a negative way. It happened to me plenty of times in high school. Even my aunt one time, told me that I had a “big, ugly nose” like my dad and that I needed a rhinoplasty (it was said in a “joking” manner in front of other family members too). I never thought my nose was all that big until that day 😬
Big noses are beautiful and unique. 😄 I may be biased because I have a big nose too. But I look at my beautiful children with the same big nose.. and I'm proud we are all connected in this way. 💕 our faces tell a story.
There’s this Japanese RUclips mom that forced her 9 year old daughter to get double eyelid surgery even tho she didn’t want to do it. Until then she always talked about how ugly her child was. Also I just checked and she posted a video saying that her 9 year old child did her “gravure” debut (modeling in bikinis, swimsuits and other outfits that a 9 year old should not wear) . I don’t know how this is legal. Their channel is 【元祖整形ママ】 I wish I never found it. I’m so mad
Oh my god that’s terrible :( I feel so bad for that child! At that age, she’s definitely aware of everything happening around her and it must feel terrible. Surely some kind of child protection services are available in her area?
I just looked at their channel and all their videos and thumbnails are super extreme and disturbing. No one in the comments are supportive thank god and I’m surprised they’re not banned yet. I think these are one of those RUclipsrs that do extreme and problematic things on purpose for clout. I’m so sad to see this especially as a Japanese person, please report their videos to RUclips.
It shouldn’t even be legal for a _literal child_ to get _any_ permanent cosmetic surgery (I’d argue filler too), least of all over 100!! But that’s capitalism for you; if you can pay, I guess anything goes. It’s just sad that adult professionals, who likely went to college for 4+ years, are okay with operating on preteens who clearly suffer from massive insecurities which can actually be treated and managed instead of exploited. Edit: Also Zhou was such a cutie before the surgeries!!
I feel like she looked very much like many of us Southeast Asians, and I’ve actually met many Vietnamese girls who are praised for looking like her. I think this was probably the reason for the bullying, as East Asians (especially the Chinese) haven’t always historically embraced their Southeast brethren, and often associate our features with inferiority. That prejudice just manifests itself in subtle, ingrained, invisible ways. Because she really was quite cute, so I can’t see any other reason why she would be bullied for her appearance.
i totally agree, the only exceptions tho i’d say is surgery to correct a deviated septum (because that can help with breathing), or other functional surgeries like jaw alignment if the jaw is asymmetrical etc (correcting this can help w teeth-grinding & pressure in the ears)...other than that tho, it really shouldn’t be legal to operate on a kid’s face... it’s so sad what bullying & dysphoria does to children
Capitalism isn’t the reason for this. It’s so simplistic and rather uninformed to state that. Purchasing power exists for the wealthy in all economic systems. Don’t learn economics on reddit.
That Botox story has sent me on such a google rabbit hole. Some stories say her child was taken away. Some say that she just made it up for cash. Another one says that her kid wasn’t taken away because she doesn’t even live in San Francisco… I want someone to deep dive and find the truth.
This is so sad. It reminds me of when I was teaching at a hagwon in Korea. I had one student who had just turned 15, and her parents gave her double eyelid surgery as a birthday present. Her mom wouldn't even let her skip class to recover from the surgery. I'll never forget having to hide my horror when she walked in with stitches in her swollen eyelids. She looked like she had just stepped out of a horror movie. The poor girl had a massive headache too so I just let her sleep for the whole class. :(
She didn't even need the surgery she was adorable the way she was naturally. Her parents should also be held accountable for encouraging this instead of helping her by loving her and teaching her to love herself. She reminds me of Kylie Jenner.
Her parents love her too much. If they didn't love her, they wouldn't have spent so much money for her. The problem is that they see nothing wrong in indulging their child to dangerous procedures just because she wants it.
Fr, Kylie Jenner went through so much just to be bullied online for looking like she aged in a recent picture (which doesn't look any different from how she usually does, at least to me). You can never win at conforming to beauty standards. Plastic surgery or not, it's pointless to try to look perfect for total strangers because it will never last long as the standards for beauty change with time.
I remember Sohee of the wodergirls was praised for her knees, when I first heard that it made laugh so hard and I really started to question Koreans at that point
@Fruit Basket omg if never heard that but I believe it blindly because with Knetz you never know, if they care about a pretty pinky tho I would not even look surprised
I feel so sad for her... nobody deserves to go through especially at that age. she needed someone to assure and comfort her to let her know that she was beautiful even without ps, but it seems like she had no one to do that for her, not even her own parents, leading her to get multiple ps just to get validation.
It feels like a Black Mirror episode. 8 year olds DO NOT have wrinkles. The face CREASING while you're making expressions, are not wrinkles (yet). They can become over time. But not at 8 years old.
It’s scary that there’s parents who are so okay with a literal child getting plastic surgery. When i was young, the kids weren’t even allowed to dye their hair, even though it’s not permanent. I’m so thankful getting plastic sugery when you’re under 18 is illegal here, because otherwise i would have a horrible nose now. I thought i got an ugly big nose, turns out it’s just big and there’s nothing wrong with it. Now i realize i’d look dumb with small nose because i got a big face too.
Look, I hate being the “she looked fine before!” person, bc it’s almost always used to shame people, but… fr she was so pretty before. She wasn’t even an adult, and her face had so much changing to do and would likely have gotten more defined on its own. I would’ve loved to see how her face matured naturally. Those kids that bullied her better know about her now and regret their every previous action.
her parents gave her permission??? some people do not deserve kids tbh it should be illegal to do anything like this on a child even if their parents say its fine
"When she does her smile it has the lines" is not something that shouldn’t be seen as a flaw because that's a natural part of pretty much everyone's face. Skin on the face wrinkles when people make certain expressions, that's just how the human body works edited for an unfortunate typo
She looks like the people out of that Korean horror short about plastic surgery. I forget what it is called, but the premise is that everyone gets plastic surgery to look like that and the main character either dies or is botched (open to interpretation) under a discount procedure just to look attractive. She was already conventionally attractive before is the thing. The short really spoke about radical and dangerous beauty trends and society.
I think young girls especially have been through similar situation like this girl, I never wanting to change my appearance, but I am self conscious about something, but it easy to learn and accept your natural beauty, because getting procedure will only led to more and more and you’re truly never being satisfied until you literally get too much procedure , wrinkles are inevitable, getting old is inevitable. No botox or whatever is going to stop that. Kids shouldn’t get these things done. I’m 20 and I use to have that mind set, because of my tanner complexion, but self love is the best love.
I like how beautiful she already was with a normal nose and eyes. Society is going into a totally wrong direction, in asian countries even parents are supporting this:(
I'm not sure why but seeing *Zhou's BIG EYES* @ 3:53 made me develop some type of phobia against big eyes somehow as it's definitely NOT NORMAL for a human being to have eyes that size and feel so heartbroken for her! The parents need to be held responsible since she's underage along how they even have her spent $600K to get all that plastic surgery done which is so confusing to me on how she was pressured to do so. I even told my elder brother about this and even he agrees with *Edvasian* on how messed up this is for society to push the current generation to be like plastic dolls from Toy Story to be accepted along seen attractive. Me as a brown-skinned black person, I got teased for my appearance along my big nose as I got comments that I look like Linguini from Ratatoulle (can't spell the movie name) and even felt hurt from the comments but decided to accept my appearance as I rather not sacrifice my lifestyle for others to like me more. I rather be accepted for being ugly/well below average than forming friendships for being attractive and feel so awful for what Zhou has to go through just for other teems to accept her. :-(
@@chromberries7329 you can add colored contacts. By adding a ring of color to the outer edge of the iris, the eyes look larger. Still, that’s dramatic.
My goodness I'm 13 and I tell my mum about my insecurities n stuff but she's NEVER thought of letting me take plastic surgery. I feel terrible for the kids here
Okay, the "mother" doing her kids own botox need to be in jail, like now.. How is she gonna talk about wrinkles on a childs face when she in about 50 pounds overweight JESUS LORD HELP ME.
@@possummagic3571 My body my rules, doesn't effect you. Since I've transitioned I actually DONT want to kill myself for once, that's all that should matter. If you disagree with that idk what else to tell you, agree to disagree I suppose.
I love your narration style, the topics you pick, and how you address them. Keep up the great work entertaining me while I’m in bed with the flu. I needed this.
Was her goal to no longer look Chinese? She succeeded. In some of the shots she looks really creepy. Creepy enough to freak me out if I saw her irl. This is sad. She was pretty in her old pics. Really cute girl before.
She’s addicted to beauty surgeries. This is an addiction. She needs help. Memory loss from frequent use of anasthesia is not something a 16 year old should experience
Wait, they can't have a passport in China before age 16... WHAT!!!? I had my first passport when I was 3 months old. At some point, if she keeps getting surgeries, her nose will collapse if surgeons don't tell her no before then. Most people can't think about how a desision they make today can affect them tomorrow, next week, next month and so on until around age 25. And today I learnt that knee lifts exist as a cosmetic surgery.
It's so heart breaking to see this kind of thing. Something called facial dysmorphia always comes to mind. It's a metal illness where you see a warped perception of your face (I'm sure you've heard of body dysmorphia, they're the same thing essentially) and no matter how many procedures you get, you will always see yourself as flawed. The only way to get rid of it is through years of cognative behavioral therapy. Anytime I see someone repeatedly get surgeries, I'm always so worried about the possibility. Most people don't realize dysmorphia is an issue until it's too late
plastic surgery is honestly more popular in east asia. in most other parts of asia we kinda look down on it tbh. im also 16 and am super fortunate to be born and raised in singapore where people don't really care much about looks most of the time. I feel really bad for that girl :(
Correction; it’s only really “popular” in Korea. In fact, China and Japan don’t have these pressures, nor is plastic surgery popular, supported, or even liked in China. People often misunderstand proportions in regards to China solely because of the sheer scale of the population. As such, things that seem widespread are actually very small on the scale of things. Looks are not the key focus in Chinese society; grades and education are far more important.
Born and raised in Chicago and I love it here. Hope you enjoy your visit. Also this video is so sad. I feel for these kids. It reminds me of that episode of the Twilight zone about plastic surgery. It's one of my favorite episodes but I didn't think when watching it how real it would be in my lifetime.
in my country it's illegal to administer Botox to a person under the age of 18. the person who administered the Botox would loose their license and get a fine. if it was administered by the parent, the parent would be under investigation by the state ... seeing the parent talk so freely and positively about a crime and child abuse is so wild to me.
This just occurred to me about all the treatments and surgeries for K-pop trainees (12.40 mark). Given that the trainees will have contractual obligations to repay the cost of their traineeship I wouldn't be surprised if the corporations involved in the industry add them in to inflate the costs accrued by the kids. There's a reason they're called slave contracts.
I understand (kinda) the importance of beauty standards in k-pop industry, but I like BtoB Peniel a lot because of his unique features. He's literally the first member I've noticed, I mean, he got me interested to the group just because he stands out.
Honestly speaking here, I was that normal looking like her (pre-surgery). She was not ugly, just normal looking girl. Anyways, When I get to my 20, even a stranger( Both men & women) come up to me and tell me I was beautiful. A friend from my childhood told me, “Wow you have changed” Ugly ducking situation. Also, I did get some minor bullying at school. I think it is normal part of life. As adult, people use different tactic. People attack other because they jealous, want to be a big shot, etc… Anyways, her parents walked this life, they should of help her through this bump and help her grow naturally. We can’t choose what we experienced, but we can choose how to react to them.
I lived in the "West" and I lived and currently live in Asia and strangers do "examine" your look, give you their unsolicited opinions and suggestions. It's something I'm working on to ignore, because it's not everything and shouldn't be that important. Physically and visually, what's important is that I take care of myself by eating well, exercising, taking care of my mental health and groom myself well, making sure I'm clean and orderly. That's supposed to be it, isn't it? It's also really interesting that people do remember me/treat me kindly because, supposedly, I am rather "good looking" because I have long thick hair, arguably even face, and slim body as a (young looking) woman. I have my (visual) bias, too, because people do have appearance and I consume media just like everyone else. I continuously work to remind myself to be mindful and remember that looks aren't everything.
The first time I heard about plastic surgery was when I was about 10. I'm someone who is Chinese and born with double eyelids, which every member of my family has as well, and I remember a white classmate of mine asking me how I got eyelids and whether I got surgery to get them, and I looked at her so confused and said "What do you mean? Surgery? No, I've always had double eyelids. Am I not supposed to?".
My mom wants me to change my body and face with plastic surgery too. She says nobody is going to like me when I look like this. I don't understand? I feel so bad for this child. I am not sure how she feels right now and how she is going to feel in the future
That's terrible for your mother to say. I'm so sorry you have have to deal with that. But I'm glad that you realize it's not true. It's your personality that determines whether people like you, and I'm sure you're lovely. Please don't let her cruel words get to you.
The one thing I was consistently bullied for during the whole of my school life was my appearance. I’m only 22 years old now but after experiencing being told I’m ugly for the majority of my life no matter how much work I do with my mindset I don’t think I’ll ever truly think I’m anything more than ugly
Had same situation like you in a past. Still sometimes avoid myself in the mirror. Was called ugly and fat, developed ED, its truly hard battle because I still tend to relapse. Now I am 32, look the same as I looked when i was 16 (i stopped developing when I was 13-14 due to ED and my looks just froze in time), but despite complements about my looks now, I still remember beeing bullied by same looks and its kinda hard to believe I am beautiful. Hope one day you heal from this traumatic experience because you look absolotely breathtaking. And hope one day will come that you will actually feel it. I wait for this day also. And I wish you the best ♡
I can recommend to hit the gym and take care of your clothes (that you like waht you are wearing and stuff) then you mindset will change automatically over time
I was in a beauty pageant once, and me and my mom got so pissed off because the girl who won 1st place in the talent section had the same exact score as me, but did a cute little dance in a crop top. (I’m not mad at her I’m mad at the judges because we were like 11) I memorized a classical piano piece and performed it, by memory. I’d have to go way back to old photos to see which song I played, but it might have been Invention number 1 by Bach? I know I played that piece at some point around that age.
I feel what she feels. When I was still in elementary school, around the age of 8-10 years old, it was how it seemed to me that I was openly rejected by my environment, people made fun of my curly hair, my dark skin and often got by sunshine. At that moment I realized that in order to be accepted, be like everyone else. Totally different from how my half Caucasian siblings come to visit, they are always welcomed better than the others. Until now, all of that still makes an impression and traumatizes me, I'm still very insecure about my appearance even though I don't really care about my skin anymore. I'm 33 now.
I remember when I was a kid between 6 or 7 when I started hearing my own family telling me to get rhinoplasty when I grow up. My brother would also pinch my nose and tease me, calling my nose "flat" and "chubby". It made me hate my nose. I feel embarrassed and insecure to the point that there are times I wouldn't look at people directly when I'm having a conversation. Anyway I'm 27 now and I still have my "flat" and "chubby" nose lol. I still have love and hate relationship with it , but I like it way better now. Also I pierced it and made my nose way cuter if I say so myself ! 😂. If I ever have my own kid ( and that's a big IF lol ) I would try my best to be a better person and wouldn't let my kid feel embarrassed and insecure for something beautiful and functional just like my "flat" and "chubby" nose. ❤️
High key, her before pics are so pretty 😥 She is already cute as she was born. I can’t believe she was bullied that harshly and her parents allowed her to get surgery as a kid. I’m sad 😞
The fact that the kpop industry is worried about “pretty knees” is both weird and hilarious in a sick way
Girl it makes sense with the amount of short clothes they wear.
NO BUT I GET IT! I was so insecure about my knees when I was 13!! I vividly remember looking in the mirror years later once I got taller and leaner and thinking “oh my god. I have the knees I always wanted.” And it’s so weird like I don’t know where that insecurity even came from
I’ve heard that they also worry about calves. A friend of mine who lived in SK for 3 years said that a lot of women would get surgery on their calves to get them more shape and honestly now that I know that exist I might try it cause I’ve had nonexistent calves that just won’t come out of hiding no matter how much I work out my legs lol
It's so sad, I found myself at one point wanting knees that were wider/knocked because I thought it paired great with skinny legs 😭. It's like I saw my body as the clothing itself if that makes any sense lol
@@gabriellegay4097 omgggg I was insecure about my knees too!! I thought they were ugly and looked dirty because they were much darker than the rest of my legs, and I had a bunch of scars on my knees too. I didn’t like the back of my knees and legs. I have no clue where that insecurity came from either like I don’t recall anyone insulting my knees lol
That lady giving her child botox needs to be investigated by CPS, that could do serious damage
i agree, hope that child ends up in a better home
yep
The story is pretty old- way back from 2011. The girl got taken away from her mother, but I couldn't find any news on how she is now and how it affected her
facts fr. people don’t realize botox is literally a neurotoxin... putting it into a child’s system when their brain is still developing is so not ok /:
That's what I was thinking. And how her "mom" is making her feel like she has wrinkles at that age is gonna be horrible for that poor girls self self esteem. It hurts my heart. Some people shouldn't be allowed to have kids. 😥
The fact that she's had all this surgery so young and STILL clearly uses the beauty filters really hurts, filters really do destroy self esteem
That's the reason why body modification should be shamed
The worst thing is that those surgery she has had won't age well SMH
@@nthuthukomdluli1052 shaming people is never the way to go - encouraging people to be proud of their real bodies and to avoid using filters which create literally impossible standards is a better option
Body modification is a normal part of life - hair dye, ear piercings, tattoos, makeup, shaving, plucking, it's all body modification and it makes no sense to try and shame people for it
Filters are not body modification, they're computer images
@@nthuthukomdluli1052 uh no.
@@nthuthukomdluli1052 you took the original comment and made up a whole other reason to be mad
Her losing parts of her memory from the anesthesia is terrifying. There are other side effects like hair loss. I noticed after one of my surgeries that I was losing quite a bit of hair, my hair stylist pointed it out and actually told me that this is a common thing that happens.
Did it grow back? I need to get a surgery next year and trust the doctors completely so I wasn't stressed, but I have a new anxiety now
@ Alex
“Did it grow back?”
I guess we’ll never know. 🤷🏻
@@v.c.nguyen590 @Alex after a stressful event (defined as physical things like surgery/trauma/major illness/after childbirth AND also emotional stress), your hair can fall out. it's called telogen effluvium. normally your hair grows in organized phases (parts of a cycle) of growth/rest, but in telogen effluvium your hair spends a little too long in the telogen, or.rest, phase, and the hair follicles in that rest phase fall out.
generally your hair will grow back after some time or, if a condition contributing to the hair loss is present, with correction of that underlying condition. it's easily diagnosed and recognizable when compared to other types of hair loss so if this worries you i would recommend speaking with your doctor beforehand if you want and definitely afterwards if you start to notice hair loss.
also for completeness: telogen effluvium can also be caused by hormonal imbalances, nutritional deficiencies, some medications, autoimmune conditions, and infectious disease.
tl;dr it's common and treatable, so please speak to a medical professional if you have concerns!
references:
Phillips TG, Slomiany WP, Allison R. Hair Loss: Common Causes and Treatment. Am Fam Physician. 2017; 96(6): p.371-378. pmid: 28925637.
Chien Yin GO, Siong-See JL, Wang ECE. Telogen Effluvium - a review of the science and current obstacles. J Dermatol Sci. 2021; 101(3): p.156-163. doi: 10.1016/j.jdermsci.2021.01.007
@@Alex-fc8xn Hair grows back after the body goes through trauma like surgery. The problem only comes in if you have genes that affect hair growth.
@@crystalclearh2o397 this is probably one of my favorite RUclips replies out of all that I've ever gotten, I love how clearly and thoroughly you explained it and the fact that you even included references is just *chefs kiss* 🧑🍳👌💋 amazing. I really appreciate the effort you put in and love that I learned something new today :)
Teaching a child to be embarrassed and defined by their imperfections is setting them up for a life of never being satisfied with who they are, and putting them at direct risk of becoming another Oli London.
Not Oli London! 🤣🤣🤣🤣💖 I laughed so hard at this!
💀😂
Though Oli London just did it for clout and money
Except this is the reality. People are bullied and judged for how they look. If you’re not average or above then life is hell. Of course some people do go extreme, but most don’t. Oli London is doing it for attention, not to fit into society.
Well, that’s Asian parenting for you. You’ll never be good enough.
Yo that mom giving her kid that look when she admitted to not knowing why she gets Botox is crazy. Someone needs to taker her kid away, it’s practically abuse.
Someone else said this was from 2011 and she did get taken away.
@@FacelessandTwisted12 I hope so, poor kid. Hope the botox didn’t do more damage than her awful mother.
@@FacelessandTwisted12 good
Yes just like kids needs to be taken away from parents who allow gender surgery! Child abuse!
@@richrich2862 bruh
My ballet instructor gave us laxatives and eating disorders as children, literal children... I had to be no older than 10 when she told me I needed to start skipping dinner because I was starting to develop.
same here, I remember my ballet teacher always holding on with a crazy grip on my hips once I started my period... as if she were trying to pinch off the fat or something. so so weird.
That is incredibly messed up.
I'm sure you're well aware, but that is 100% abuse
Same! my instructor treated the more skinny and younger children better, every monday she measured us and start telling us: you'll need to be more skinny if you want to do this choreography (or be able to stuff that didn't have anything to do with being skinny to perform better).
I left the classes after I hurt my back trying to force myself to have more elasticity (because my instructor always force elasticity on us, never gave us exercises to develop it naturally), I was just a preteen back then, and during years I struggle with my self-esteem/weight alongside my back injury.
@@LuneaDark oh gosh that sounds horrible, i hope ur back isn’t bad now, and that u feel better about urself 💗
As an esthetician, at least in my state, we cannot administer Botox. It's considered a cosmetic procedure and must be administered by a licensed medical professional. I can't believe that woman is giving her daughter Botox injections. She's way too young for that, I can't even wax someone's eyebrows if they're under 10, so the idea of giving a literal child Botox is horrifying to me. Also I feel bad for that girl who got all that surgery that young. If she's happy, then that's fine, but she should've never have been made to feel like she had to change to be accepted, and it sucks that that is how this world works. Society man.
in France it is the same but not everyone know so they got injected by non-professional
Why do people keep on using the words "literal" and "literally" etc. everywhere? They don't make sense in the context.
@@muzikveoyun37 ?
@@gabdongipark Read the top comment.
@@muzikveoyun37 but they used in the right context though
I feel for the little girl at the end, the fact that she doesn't even know what botox does is what breaks my heart. She's still little and doesn't need it, and her mother should be ashamed at herself for exposing her kid to plastic surgery at such a young age.
@officialmer The mother is administering it herself.
How is it even legal to give a minor botox let alone one that is in kindergarten! That's so fucked up. That mom has some issues.
She is projecting her insecurities on to her daughter. Sad
Her mother should be arrested for child abuse!
And her mom said to counter a wrinkles(?) Like.... She was probably less than 8 y.o? What wrinkles? Are you for real?
she was literally so pretty
My thoughts exactly
she was average, but now she looks uncanny
She kinda looked like that girl from ITZY
Chaeryeong?
Yeah, in US she would be considered pretty by her peers.
My parents have been pushing the idea of getting a rhinoplasty since I was 12 bc I was terribly bullied (not only by classmates but my family too). Pretty privilege exists all around the world
I am so sorry that is so mean and unsupportive. They should accept you, adore you, love you for who you are. Your physical appearance shouldn’t need to change, and no one should insult you or encourage you to change your body. It’s yours and it comes from your parents/family; your features are what make you unique. Maybe they have insecurities about large noses, but it’s not fair to take that out on you or push you to get surgery- especially not when you’re so young. Your nose should be accepted and even appreciated, not ridiculed and altered to become something different that doesn’t belong to you/match you/reflect who you are and where you come from. I hope both you and your family will come to embrace your nose and celebrate who you are.
I'm glad you haven't done it! I also got bullied for my Roman nose in school, but it suits me, looks kinda elegant, and hasn't affected my dating prospects at all. Keeping it almost feels like a rebellious act the way society is so concerned with "fixing" any nose that's not a perfect little slope. It's important to show people that other noses are not inherently ugly ❤️
You have to do what's right for you. Don't worry about what others think about your choice. It's your body. Whether you embrace or change, you're still you and deserve to be treated with kindness and respect.
I’m so sorry that you’ve gone through this. Bullying in any form is so awful. I’m similar to you as I was bullied by my father and at school for my appearance. The beauty standard is so subjective and biased and it totally distorts the way people think. I’m most likely older than you as I grew up before the social media age and have insecurities. I feel for the younger generation having to look perfect when they reach puberty. The standard is so racially and gender biased that it’s sickening. I still can’t get over the sweet little girl getting Botox at 8!
i used to get bullied for my big teeth, i think they're pretty neat, i like bunnies
Speaking of this girl, I actually did some research on her on the Chinese part of the internet.
First of all, she's not really an influencer. The only influence she has is getting people to diss her in the comments of various videos and comments sections I saw.
I couldn't find any channels by her anywhere, so I'm guessing that it has been taken down.
Here's an excerpt from an article that I found. Note that because this article was written in article format, it is far kinder and attempts to be more neutral than the actual reaction of most Chinese people's.
"Many years ago, a 13-year-old girl caused a lot of heated discussion on the Internet because of her plastic surgery, and her appalling behavior also taught the majority of netizens a lesson.
The 13-year-old girl named Nana has a wealthy family. Under the influence of her mother, she is more concerned about her appearance since she was a child. Before her plastic surgery, although her appearance was not stunning, she also had the purity and generosity of a young girl, which can never be described as ugly.
Later, at a young age, she was not satisfied with her appearance, so she had the idea of plastic surgery. Because her parents were fond of her since she was a child, when she had this idea, she did not obstruct it, and even supported her.
From the whole eye to the whole face, in 3 years, a total of 60 times before and after, costing nearly one million yuan. During the period, she also shared her plastic surgery process and experience on the online platform, and gradually became a small Internet celebrity.
Because of her plastic surgery, she was criticized and ridiculed by her peers. Not only did she drop out of school at the age when she should have received education, but she also frequently traveled to various places for post-operative recovery and endured post-operative physical pain.
This kind of physical and psychological torture, as well as the sequelae caused by multiple operations, Nana fully accepted and said that it was worth it, and she did not regret it and enjoyed it. Even more obsessed and confident about her appearance after plastic surgery.
Now she has a pair of overly large eyes, a straight nose, and a pointed chin, just like a Barbie face. Compared with the past, there is no trace of the original.
Let's not talk about whether this face is really good-looking, but it is definitely not harmonious. It is estimated that even the most basic facial expressions cannot be made smooth and natural."
This makes me so so sad :( this poor girl just needed love. Sometimes I struggle to smile but imagine it physically being a pain… I wonder if she’s really happy
@@nyoom6293 Uh
She got A LOT of love.
In fact, her parents indulged her too much.
@@angeliquewu8318 Paying for everything a child asks for isn't love, they clearly didn't nurture her as a person if she felt this inadequate at 13
@@angeliquewu8318 that's not love......... if you loved your child you would not let them indulge in plastic surgery instead of getting her help for her mental illness. She needed help, not surgery.
Thanks for the translation!
Having Botox at the age of 8?? That's just outrageous! WTF that mother is thinking??? Poor child!!! 🥺
Morover which doctor agreed to do it
@@Sonnenanbeterin1991sounds like the mom did it
8!!!??😨😨😨 At first i read your comment as 18
@@Sonnenanbeterin1991 The mom was a part time esthetician, so she probably smuggled botox from the clinic for her child.
Lorry Hill has talked about this after Bella Hadid admitted to getting plastic surgery at 14. Basically, she says that Hollywood people that grew up in the bubble, start tweaking their features really early. They'll just say it's puberty.
The Hadid sisters interactions with their mom about food are horrifying so I can only imagine what Yolanda was saying behind closed doors to both of them. Not to mention her blatant preference for Gigi’s appearance when Bella wasn’t modeling yet. It’s all so gross.
This is super prevalent in Kpop now, many girls debuting as young as 13 or 14 and seeing their "before pics" floors me because its obvious they got work done so young.
At least they were smart about it, this girl looks hideous, these surgery won't age well
It blew my mind to learn that Dove Cameron got surgery fairly young. I genuinely thought that was her natural face on Disney channel but she’s one of the Hollywood kids who got procedures young too…
And now she’s vocal about how she really struggles with her appearance ):… and she’s STILL quite young.
Isn’t getting plastic surgery at 13 extremely dangerous tho? I remember doctors saying as we grow older the face still develops so over time it will prob look worse.
it is but who cares if it makes them money?
not that "dangerous", but there are more risks. like "outgrowing" the face, but eylid surgery i think is fine
@@hnibuns no it is dangerous because your frontal lobe of the brain finishes developing at 25 which is why people at told to have plastic surgery after 25. If you getting before it might effect you brain especially in the future .The frontal lobes are important for voluntary movement, expressive language and for managing higher level executive functions.It might not effect her now but she’ll have trouble in the future when she’s older
@@hnibuns no it is dangerous because your frontal lobe of the brain finishes developing at 25 which is why people at told to have plastic surgery after 25. If you getting before it might effect you brain especially in the future .The frontal lobes are important for voluntary movement, expressive language and for managing higher level executive functions.It might not effect her now but she’ll have trouble in the future when she’s older
I think as long as anything isn’t added it’s not gonna outgrow
The beauty standard in Asia is insane. I live in Indonesia, I've seen a lot of job ads that include good looking/attractive as a requirement or preference, especially for barista for some reason? It's also uncommon to see job ads for doctors/health care providers that include said requirement. It's weird because I think patients wouldn't really care about the doctor's look as long as they're clean, neat, gets the job done and they're using protective suit anyway with mask and all that 💀
Hold on I live in Indonesia too and I didn't know those requirements existed???? Man I'm still just just a highschooler and I'm already afraid I wouldn't get jobs because I don't fit the beauty standard
@@scramblecore9156 sadly it's true, although I think it also heavily depended on the work field, for example technical jobs don't typically require the candidates to be good looking, but jobs like marketing, public relations, secretary and even cashier or admin staff are most likely to include it as a requirement. Anyways good luck in your study! 👍
even down to WEIGHT requirement.
You can still put on make up and fashionable clothes for that, but you can't change your height 😭
I think thats a requirement for any place, youll notice barista's tend to be young attractive women
WOW! This is a whole new level of toxic and sad. I feel bad for her that she has gone through this and the crap she dealt with pre-surgery. Beauty standards are out of control! She looks like an anime character in pictures but those videos of her……. Woah.
She was literally perfect before 😔
Plastic Surgery online and in real life look drastically different
@@amorelockster1023 yeah that’s my whole point lol
My greatest pain for that girl is that those surgery won't age well at all🤦
From the side too she looks so botched and unbalanced it's really sad :/
i acc feel rlly bad for her 🙁 bullied into changing her appearance at 13
fr
Her parents should go to court for this
She wasn't bullied into changing her appearance.
It was her that got plastic surgery, and then her classmates started to isolate her.
Idk where Edvasion got his info, but it wasn't the original source, because I actually did some research into this on the Chinese internet where the OG sources are, and there's a lot he said that was wrong.
Changing appearance happened because her parents allowed it and paid for it. I would've never thought of plastic surgery as a kid when I was bullied or hated my appearance because I was(still am) poor. Blame the parents and social media for enabling this behavior and mindset.
@@nathalieli7617 There was a show, an American or British one, I think where they give free plastic surgery to kids under 18 because they were being bullied in school about their appearance but couldn't afford any procedures. So yeah, a lot of kids must have thought about it. Btw social media is just an outlet for society. Good luck trying to change anything if your focus is on social media rather than society itself.
26, anything before 26 is playing with fire. You're definitely done growing or close enough to it that you're not risking dramatic changes.
Agreed, mid 20s is the time our brains finish developing, esp cognitive thinking, so that's the time to start making these decisions, not earlier.
That's not true. Your brain never 'finishes developing'. It's not cake. It doesn't go "ping!" and stop cooking. The study behind that myth was poorly done; basically the guy never scanned any brain older than 25 so he just put that down as the 'done' date. Your brain is extremely plastic, it is always changing and developing. @@ima.m.1658
Fr, if a brain stops developing at 24-25 then that is the age were we can trust someone's judgement on making the type of permanent decision that will change the rest of your life forever.
@@monbub Okay then, no one is allowed to vote until they're at least 26.
Zhao's story is like messed-up and sad version of K-drama "True Beauty" where she discovered the "power of plastic surgery" instead of "power of makeup" to run away from her past trauma and become this new persona.
There was another kdrama that basically showed the “power of plastic surgery” called “My ID is Gangnam Beauty”
@@fakeituntilkingdomcome I actually liked that one, becasue it showed the psychological effects it had on the fml, and a broader scope of this phenomenon. It changed my views on plastic surgery a little bit, as well as how complex society is and its expectations from ppl.
I can only recommend.
@@fakeituntilkingdomcome I was about to mention that one!
@@fakeituntilkingdomcome I don't think it shows the "power of plastic surgery" but rather, the impact of getting it.
The first time I heard of plastic surgery was 8th grade. A girl I saw on the bus told me her parents signed her up to get her nose done. It was a bit too soon. She had to get it redone because she grew a bit more. I finally figured out that her Dad got his nose done and signed her up because she had inherited his nose shape. She looked great but it really threw her for a loop that her parents wanted to change her face
I knew of one in the 9th grade but she had to do it because of an accident where a horse beat the hell out of her and destroyed her face
Wow wth that's so gross of the dad
When that kid was asked why she needs botox, then her mom mouthed something to her and the kid smiled in this pretty, complacent way at the interviewer - it reminded me of Jenette McCurdy's book; she said that she learned how to look content and happy for her mother, and then for the filming crew and audiences. How she would endure any crazy sht her mother forced her to do, always with a cute, pleasant smile, so as not to show even the slightest negative emotion.
As a mom I'm absolutely horrified that ANY parents would allow their children to get non medically needed botox or plastic surgery. They child will never be able to know what they would actually look like once they reach adulthood, and also have a lifetime of mental problems caused by the insecurities the parents placed upon them. The botox mom needs to have CPS called on her.
I’m glad that woman pointed out that she never thought her gums showing when she smiles/talks was a bad thing, until someone mentioned it. I think a lot of people still have trouble noticing this when they perceive certain features as a “flaw”. It’s possible to go your entire life being okay with how something looks, unless someone else draws attention to it in a negative way. It happened to me plenty of times in high school. Even my aunt one time, told me that I had a “big, ugly nose” like my dad and that I needed a rhinoplasty (it was said in a “joking” manner in front of other family members too). I never thought my nose was all that big until that day 😬
Big noses are beautiful and unique. 😄 I may be biased because I have a big nose too. But I look at my beautiful children with the same big nose.. and I'm proud we are all connected in this way. 💕 our faces tell a story.
There’s this Japanese RUclips mom that forced her 9 year old daughter to get double eyelid surgery even tho she didn’t want to do it. Until then she always talked about how ugly her child was.
Also I just checked and she posted a video saying that her 9 year old child did her “gravure” debut (modeling in bikinis, swimsuits and other outfits that a 9 year old should not wear) . I don’t know how this is legal.
Their channel is 【元祖整形ママ】
I wish I never found it. I’m so mad
They will get karma. Don't worry.
Oh my god that’s terrible :( I feel so bad for that child! At that age, she’s definitely aware of everything happening around her and it must feel terrible. Surely some kind of child protection services are available in her area?
is there a way i could find the youtube channel?:( i cant copy paste it
I just looked at their channel and all their videos and thumbnails are super extreme and disturbing. No one in the comments are supportive thank god and I’m surprised they’re not banned yet.
I think these are one of those RUclipsrs that do extreme and problematic things on purpose for clout. I’m so sad to see this especially as a Japanese person, please report their videos to RUclips.
@@ellis6407 thanks! and yes im on mobile, which is why i cant copy paste it🥲
It shouldn’t even be legal for a _literal child_ to get _any_ permanent cosmetic surgery (I’d argue filler too), least of all over 100!! But that’s capitalism for you; if you can pay, I guess anything goes. It’s just sad that adult professionals, who likely went to college for 4+ years, are okay with operating on preteens who clearly suffer from massive insecurities which can actually be treated and managed instead of exploited.
Edit: Also Zhou was such a cutie before the surgeries!!
I feel like she looked very much like many of us Southeast Asians, and I’ve actually met many Vietnamese girls who are praised for looking like her. I think this was probably the reason for the bullying, as East Asians (especially the Chinese) haven’t always historically embraced their Southeast brethren, and often associate our features with inferiority. That prejudice just manifests itself in subtle, ingrained, invisible ways. Because she really was quite cute, so I can’t see any other reason why she would be bullied for her appearance.
i totally agree, the only exceptions tho i’d say is surgery to correct a deviated septum (because that can help with breathing), or other functional surgeries like jaw alignment if the jaw is asymmetrical etc (correcting this can help w teeth-grinding & pressure in the ears)...other than that tho, it really shouldn’t be legal to operate on a kid’s face... it’s so sad what bullying & dysphoria does to children
Capitalism isn’t the reason for this. It’s so simplistic and rather uninformed to state that. Purchasing power exists for the wealthy in all economic systems. Don’t learn economics on reddit.
She was beautiful :(
Meanwhile chopping off the front parts of a 14 year old is okay.
She did NOT have a big nose! Her natural eyes were beautiful.
That Botox story has sent me on such a google rabbit hole. Some stories say her child was taken away. Some say that she just made it up for cash. Another one says that her kid wasn’t taken away because she doesn’t even live in San Francisco… I want someone to deep dive and find the truth.
The way you're so casually funny is so satisfying
why I keep coming back
1:30 “small eyes and a big nose” WHAT?? 😭 HER NOSE IS BIG?? NAHHH THEY WOULD HUNT ME DOWN IF THEY SAW MY NOSE
FRR SAME AND I'VE NEVER BEEN BULLIED FOR MY LOOKS??
her nose literally looks small
Are you kidding me? Telling a 8yo CHILD she has “lines" on her face and needs botox should be a crime!!!
I'll never understand why Asian culture hates monolids. I think they are so unique and beautiful!
monolids are so hot
This is so sad. It reminds me of when I was teaching at a hagwon in Korea. I had one student who had just turned 15, and her parents gave her double eyelid surgery as a birthday present. Her mom wouldn't even let her skip class to recover from the surgery. I'll never forget having to hide my horror when she walked in with stitches in her swollen eyelids. She looked like she had just stepped out of a horror movie. The poor girl had a massive headache too so I just let her sleep for the whole class. :(
"especially when you're 13, and your face hasn't even turned into a face." equal parts funny and true
She didn't even need the surgery she was adorable the way she was naturally. Her parents should also be held accountable for encouraging this instead of helping her by loving her and teaching her to love herself. She reminds me of Kylie Jenner.
Her parents love her too much. If they didn't love her, they wouldn't have spent so much money for her. The problem is that they see nothing wrong in indulging their child to dangerous procedures just because she wants it.
Fr, Kylie Jenner went through so much just to be bullied online for looking like she aged in a recent picture (which doesn't look any different from how she usually does, at least to me). You can never win at conforming to beauty standards. Plastic surgery or not, it's pointless to try to look perfect for total strangers because it will never last long as the standards for beauty change with time.
I remember Sohee of the wodergirls was praised for her knees, when I first heard that it made laugh so hard and I really started to question Koreans at that point
@Fruit Basket omg if never heard that but I believe it blindly because with Knetz you never know, if they care about a pretty pinky tho I would not even look surprised
@Fruit Basket or do you remember the S line body, I still have no clue what that is but nobody cares about that anymore for some reason
@Fruit Basket I think it’s about like when you look on the side of the body it looks like an S because of the chest and butt and all that?
I feel so sad for her... nobody deserves to go through especially at that age. she needed someone to assure and comfort her to let her know that she was beautiful even without ps, but it seems like she had no one to do that for her, not even her own parents, leading her to get multiple ps just to get validation.
And yet she still uses filters
It feels like a Black Mirror episode.
8 year olds DO NOT have wrinkles. The face CREASING while you're making expressions, are not wrinkles (yet). They can become over time. But not at 8 years old.
It’s scary that there’s parents who are so okay with a literal child getting plastic surgery. When i was young, the kids weren’t even allowed to dye their hair, even though it’s not permanent.
I’m so thankful getting plastic sugery when you’re under 18 is illegal here, because otherwise i would have a horrible nose now. I thought i got an ugly big nose, turns out it’s just big and there’s nothing wrong with it. Now i realize i’d look dumb with small nose because i got a big face too.
8 year old getting Botox for "wrinkles"???? What the actual frick
the fact that they told that one woman that she needed to "fix" her smile because they didnt think it was attractive makes me sick
she wasn’t even ugly..
Yeah, she was just average
@@abiutheartist I would say her features were pretty attractive.
Look, I hate being the “she looked fine before!” person, bc it’s almost always used to shame people, but… fr she was so pretty before. She wasn’t even an adult, and her face had so much changing to do and would likely have gotten more defined on its own. I would’ve loved to see how her face matured naturally. Those kids that bullied her better know about her now and regret their every previous action.
The scariest thing is I'd doubt they even regret it considering how fcked up Asian beauty standards are.
They definitely don't
honestly i feel so bad for these children. imagine going through that trauma at such a young age. i truly wish them the best.
her parents gave her permission??? some people do not deserve kids tbh it should be illegal to do anything like this on a child even if their parents say its fine
"When she does her smile it has the lines" is not something that shouldn’t be seen as a flaw because that's a natural part of pretty much everyone's face. Skin on the face wrinkles when people make certain expressions, that's just how the human body works
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She looks like the people out of that Korean horror short about plastic surgery. I forget what it is called, but the premise is that everyone gets plastic surgery to look like that and the main character either dies or is botched (open to interpretation) under a discount procedure just to look attractive. She was already conventionally attractive before is the thing. The short really spoke about radical and dangerous beauty trends and society.
Is it 'human form' that you're talking about?
“has anyone ever been to chicago”💀 bruv i live here
nahh idk if u do
same! Well, close.
I think young girls especially have been through similar situation like this girl, I never wanting to change my appearance, but I am self conscious about something, but it easy to learn and accept your natural beauty, because getting procedure will only led to more and more and you’re truly never being satisfied until you literally get too much procedure , wrinkles are inevitable, getting old is inevitable. No botox or whatever is going to stop that. Kids shouldn’t get these things done. I’m 20 and I use to have that mind set, because of my tanner complexion, but self love is the best love.
I like how beautiful she already was with a normal nose and eyes. Society is going into a totally wrong direction, in asian countries even parents are supporting this:(
I'm not sure why but seeing *Zhou's BIG EYES* @ 3:53 made me develop some type of phobia against big eyes somehow as it's definitely NOT NORMAL for a human being to have eyes that size and feel so heartbroken for her! The parents need to be held responsible since she's underage along how they even have her spent $600K to get all that plastic surgery done which is so confusing to me on how she was pressured to do so. I even told my elder brother about this and even he agrees with *Edvasian* on how messed up this is for society to push the current generation to be like plastic dolls from Toy Story to be accepted along seen attractive. Me as a brown-skinned black person, I got teased for my appearance along my big nose as I got comments that I look like Linguini from Ratatoulle (can't spell the movie name) and even felt hurt from the comments but decided to accept my appearance as I rather not sacrifice my lifestyle for others to like me more. I rather be accepted for being ugly/well below average than forming friendships for being attractive and feel so awful for what Zhou has to go through just for other teems to accept her. :-(
The eyes are a filter, you can't get plastic surgery to increase the size of you actual eyeball nor the irises etc.
@@chromberries7329 you can add colored contacts. By adding a ring of color to the outer edge of the iris, the eyes look larger. Still, that’s dramatic.
Me having natural big eyes: 🫣
they aren't that big she's wearing contacts to make her iris bigger
Saying you have developed a whole ahh phobia from a single image is a bit too dramatic.
My goodness I'm 13 and I tell my mum about my insecurities n stuff but she's NEVER thought of letting me take plastic surgery. I feel terrible for the kids here
Okay, the "mother" doing her kids own botox need to be in jail, like now.. How is she gonna talk about wrinkles on a childs face when she in about 50 pounds overweight JESUS LORD HELP ME.
Omg she looked sooo pretty even before the plastic surgery 😢
these people are the same people who say it's mutilation for me to have top surgery
It's ALL mutilation.
@@possummagic3571 My body my rules, doesn't effect you. Since I've transitioned I actually DONT want to kill myself for once, that's all that should matter.
If you disagree with that idk what else to tell you, agree to disagree I suppose.
*"Imagine being bullied for having facial features"*
I love your narration style, the topics you pick, and how you address them. Keep up the great work entertaining me while I’m in bed with the flu. I needed this.
Was her goal to no longer look Chinese? She succeeded. In some of the shots she looks really creepy. Creepy enough to freak me out if I saw her irl. This is sad. She was pretty in her old pics. Really cute girl before.
She’s addicted to beauty surgeries. This is an addiction. She needs help. Memory loss from frequent use of anasthesia is not something a 16 year old should experience
It's literally terrifying to think about. Memory loss is something elders get, not 16 year olds.
Peniel’s face when he says, “What?!” After Ashley spoke about her knees gets me every time.
Get her bloody lock up!! 8yrs old, that's disgusting..
Wait, they can't have a passport in China before age 16... WHAT!!!? I had my first passport when I was 3 months old. At some point, if she keeps getting surgeries, her nose will collapse if surgeons don't tell her no before then. Most people can't think about how a desision they make today can affect them tomorrow, next week, next month and so on until around age 25. And today I learnt that knee lifts exist as a cosmetic surgery.
you definitely can have a passport before age 16
allowing your kid to have appearance-altering surgery is straight up abuse
It's so heart breaking to see this kind of thing. Something called facial dysmorphia always comes to mind. It's a metal illness where you see a warped perception of your face (I'm sure you've heard of body dysmorphia, they're the same thing essentially) and no matter how many procedures you get, you will always see yourself as flawed. The only way to get rid of it is through years of cognative behavioral therapy.
Anytime I see someone repeatedly get surgeries, I'm always so worried about the possibility. Most people don't realize dysmorphia is an issue until it's too late
plastic surgery is honestly more popular in east asia. in most other parts of asia we kinda look down on it tbh. im also 16 and am super fortunate to be born and raised in singapore where people don't really care much about looks most of the time. I feel really bad for that girl :(
Correction; it’s only really “popular” in Korea.
In fact, China and Japan don’t have these pressures, nor is plastic surgery popular, supported, or even liked in China.
People often misunderstand proportions in regards to China solely because of the sheer scale of the population. As such, things that seem widespread are actually very small on the scale of things.
Looks are not the key focus in Chinese society; grades and education are far more important.
@@angeliquewu8318 mm yeah true
She was literally so beautiful before there’s no way there’s hope for me 💀
Gurl we are done for good
im glad that shes happy at least
Born and raised in Chicago and I love it here. Hope you enjoy your visit. Also this video is so sad. I feel for these kids. It reminds me of that episode of the Twilight zone about plastic surgery. It's one of my favorite episodes but I didn't think when watching it how real it would be in my lifetime.
in my country it's illegal to administer Botox to a person under the age of 18. the person who administered the Botox would loose their license and get a fine. if it was administered by the parent, the parent would be under investigation by the state ... seeing the parent talk so freely and positively about a crime and child abuse is so wild to me.
She went from looking completely normal to looking like she isn't even human anymore 0~0
This just occurred to me about all the treatments and surgeries for K-pop trainees (12.40 mark). Given that the trainees will have contractual obligations to repay the cost of their traineeship I wouldn't be surprised if the corporations involved in the industry add them in to inflate the costs accrued by the kids. There's a reason they're called slave contracts.
I understand (kinda) the importance of beauty standards in k-pop industry, but I like BtoB Peniel a lot because of his unique features. He's literally the first member I've noticed, I mean, he got me interested to the group just because he stands out.
Honestly speaking here, I was that normal looking like her (pre-surgery). She was not ugly, just normal looking girl. Anyways, When I get to my 20, even a stranger( Both men & women) come up to me and tell me I was beautiful. A friend from my childhood told me, “Wow you have changed” Ugly ducking situation. Also, I did get some minor bullying at school. I think it is normal part of life. As adult, people use different tactic. People attack other because they jealous, want to be a big shot, etc… Anyways, her parents walked this life, they should of help her through this bump and help her grow naturally. We can’t choose what we experienced, but we can choose how to react to them.
bullying isn’t a normal part of life 😭
her story is so sad tbh..
We are falling into the uncanny valley with all of these extensive surgeries.
It shouldn't be a surprise that the K-pop industry has such toxic standards but the "pretty knee" part was so ridiculous that it caught me off guard.
She may not be regretful now, but just wait till she hits even just 30. Cant imagine how she'll look at 50+
8 years old... getting botox? That mom is insane
I lived in the "West" and I lived and currently live in Asia and strangers do "examine" your look, give you their unsolicited opinions and suggestions. It's something I'm working on to ignore, because it's not everything and shouldn't be that important.
Physically and visually, what's important is that I take care of myself by eating well, exercising, taking care of my mental health and groom myself well, making sure I'm clean and orderly. That's supposed to be it, isn't it? It's also really interesting that people do remember me/treat me kindly because, supposedly, I am rather "good looking" because I have long thick hair, arguably even face, and slim body as a (young looking) woman.
I have my (visual) bias, too, because people do have appearance and I consume media just like everyone else. I continuously work to remind myself to be mindful and remember that looks aren't everything.
The first time I heard about plastic surgery was when I was about 10. I'm someone who is Chinese and born with double eyelids, which every member of my family has as well, and I remember a white classmate of mine asking me how I got eyelids and whether I got surgery to get them, and I looked at her so confused and said "What do you mean? Surgery? No, I've always had double eyelids. Am I not supposed to?".
I can’t believe the parents couldn’t protect their kid and let her have plastic surgeries instead
My mom wants me to change my body and face with plastic surgery too. She says nobody is going to like me when I look like this.
I don't understand?
I feel so bad for this child. I am not sure how she feels right now and how she is going to feel in the future
That's terrible for your mother to say. I'm so sorry you have have to deal with that. But I'm glad that you realize it's not true. It's your personality that determines whether people like you, and I'm sure you're lovely. Please don't let her cruel words get to you.
@@andreagarner7759 🤎🤎🤎🤎🤎thanksss
You don't need it. I one hundred percent bet you're beautiful and that your mom is intimidated by your beauty.
@@nnn9854 thanks!
Awe this poor baby girl, I hope she finds happiness
The one thing I was consistently bullied for during the whole of my school life was my appearance. I’m only 22 years old now but after experiencing being told I’m ugly for the majority of my life no matter how much work I do with my mindset I don’t think I’ll ever truly think I’m anything more than ugly
Had same situation like you in a past. Still sometimes avoid myself in the mirror. Was called ugly and fat, developed ED, its truly hard battle because I still tend to relapse. Now I am 32, look the same as I looked when i was 16 (i stopped developing when I was 13-14 due to ED and my looks just froze in time), but despite complements about my looks now, I still remember beeing bullied by same looks and its kinda hard to believe I am beautiful. Hope one day you heal from this traumatic experience because you look absolotely breathtaking. And hope one day will come that you will actually feel it. I wait for this day also. And I wish you the best ♡
I can recommend to hit the gym and take care of your clothes (that you like waht you are wearing and stuff) then you mindset will change automatically over time
Bless that little girl's heart. She looks horrible :(
“Parents” not getting to the heart of the issue when their 12 year old asks for plastic surgery.
I was in a beauty pageant once, and me and my mom got so pissed off because the girl who won 1st place in the talent section had the same exact score as me, but did a cute little dance in a crop top. (I’m not mad at her I’m mad at the judges because we were like 11) I memorized a classical piano piece and performed it, by memory. I’d have to go way back to old photos to see which song I played, but it might have been Invention number 1 by Bach? I know I played that piece at some point around that age.
I feel what she feels. When I was still in elementary school, around the age of 8-10 years old, it was how it seemed to me that I was openly rejected by my environment, people made fun of my curly hair, my dark skin and often got by sunshine. At that moment I realized that in order to be accepted, be like everyone else. Totally different from how my half Caucasian siblings come to visit, they are always welcomed better than the others. Until now, all of that still makes an impression and traumatizes me, I'm still very insecure about my appearance even though I don't really care about my skin anymore. I'm 33 now.
I remember when I was a kid between 6 or 7 when I started hearing my own family telling me to get rhinoplasty when I grow up. My brother would also pinch my nose and tease me, calling my nose "flat" and "chubby". It made me hate my nose. I feel embarrassed and insecure to the point that there are times I wouldn't look at people directly when I'm having a conversation.
Anyway I'm 27 now and I still have my "flat" and "chubby" nose lol. I still have love and hate relationship with it , but I like it way better now. Also I pierced it and made my nose way cuter if I say so myself ! 😂. If I ever have my own kid ( and that's a big IF lol ) I would try my best to be a better person and wouldn't let my kid feel embarrassed and insecure for something beautiful and functional just like my "flat" and "chubby" nose. ❤️
High key, her before pics are so pretty 😥 She is already cute as she was born. I can’t believe she was bullied that harshly and her parents allowed her to get surgery as a kid. I’m sad 😞
excuse me an 8 YEAR OLD!?!?!??!!? that poor child ;( smile lines are normal especially when you’re smiling
Your voice and the way you talk is so soothing and comforting 😌
“So on the outside I look fine, but I am balding and about to pass away”
I am DEAD 😂
00:30
This is genuinely so sad
I looked up “knee plastic surgery” and it actually exits 😵💫
those moms should go to jail or seek psychological help
Thanks for being informative and amusing.
that natural blonde comment made me chuckle.
HUH? THATS NOT A WIG??!
His Covid lockdown hobby was to bleach his hair. lol He made lots of videos.