0:46 The good old days of tripping balls and blaming your adopted brother for your issues, classic. Also, if your workforce were non Egyptian you could say it was built by aliens.
Well if we read the Bible, it says clearly that God hardens the Pharaoh heart, meaning God made him not listening while God was punishing Egypt as a whole instead of the rulers. So God is the bad guy. I mean, he could just teleport the slaves away from Egypt into the promised land anyways...
@Jake007123 that's not what that means in context. When it says God hardened Pharoahs heart, it was referring to how this supreme God's power would inevitably reveal the stubbornness of a human who thought he was a god. Pharoahs believed they were gods on earth. Moses's God proved they weren't and Pharoah hated that. Also, it wasn't just about the people being free. It was God returning some portion of the 430 odd years stolen from them by the Egyptians through slavery.
The real villain is the Hebrew god. He performed those miracles and then specifically went out of his way to harden Ramses' heart (resulting in him not letting the Hebrew go) to make him and everybody suffer more than needed just to prove a point. Like, what kind of sadistic god does that? Did he get some sick enjoyment out of actively escalating the situation instead of, you know, not hardening Ramses' heart so that he would let the Hebrew go after the first scourge, saving a lot of suffering on both sides.
I can defend her majesty treating younger Moses better than Ramses considering the very religious beliefs of the Egyptians at that time. For all she knew, it was a gift from the gods that a baby arrived to the kingdom in the river Nile without anything happening to it. So in essence, Moses became like a deity symbol aside from being the Prince of Egypt (title card). Moses literally means "to be pulled out/drawn out" from water. Hebrew translation is the name Moses as the Ancient Egyptian of it is lost to time, but that is pretty much the significance of his origin.
Well, the Pharaoh’s daughter obviously knew Moses is a Hebrew. Exodus 2:6 And when she had opened it, she saw the child: and, behold, the babe wept. And she had compassion on him, and said, This is one of the Hebrews' children. She was a woman with a great heart, knowing the command of her father but defying nonetheless.
What I found weird was the fact that Ramses Father the guy who presumably started this whole mess most likely died without receiving any retribution for his deeds yet it still falls all on Ramses simply because the other guy is dead.
Yes but even if the father had lived to preside over the plagues, Ramses would still be the firstborn son to die. So he gets a pretty bad deal no matter what
@@mandalorethemaximum1408 “The son will not bear the punishment for the sin of the father, nor will the father bear the punishment for the sin of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be on himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be on himself.”
It is wild to me just how well this movie still holds up overall. I’m not even religious but it is such a heartbreaking tale of how two brothers can be fundamentally opposed to each other but still desperately don’t want to carry out what they see as their responsibilities and burdens. That song still gives me chills.
@@dansmith1661 And the entire Moses story is completely fictional. Like that's not me being an edgy atheist, that's literally what they teach in seminary college.
Yeah I’m usually not big on modifying historical narratives (truth is everyone in Moses’s family kinda hated him) but it is an exceptional narrative in its own right.
Fun fact, Ramses II (The Ramses in this film) is the phaoroh named Ozymandias by the greeks, supposedly responsible for the 'Look upon my works ye mighty and dispair' quote after having built the most prosperous civilization in history (up to that point)... until his brother came home.
Other than the fact that according to archeology, Moses never existed. So, you got it all right, until that point... Not even to mention the bible doesn't even get its dates right, the various facts around the story itself have events from a range of about 300 years, all supposedly happening at the same time. Which is very common in the bible, the few historical things it gets right, are always during the wrong date by 50-300 years...
@@TyHernandez-q9v the pharaoh is not even named, so most works of fiction just assume its rameses for some reason, some dispute that the whole captivity in egypt and the exodus actually happened or if its just more tales, as it turns out, the guys writing the book really liked to exagerate stuff, they do that a lot when telling about the conquest of canaan and the wars that happened between the israelites and the other caananites, which mostly historians says not only didn't happen but the israelites and caananites actually lived together quite okay, so the cultural-religious divide between them was a latter development which was retroactively inserted later when they were writing their own history, they exagerate the numbers of the people they destroy and so on, so yeah, a lot of things there are kinda unreliable at face value
@@wiel5908 They use the context of the actual historical events mentioned to narrow down the Pharaoh who would have been in power. The actual historical events mentioned occurred within a stretch of roughly 500 years. So multiple Pharaohs ruled in that time. Its also part of the reason we know the Exodus isn't real, because when we compare the writings to verified archeology, the dates cannot possibly line up. But yes, I actually read all the history and archeology myself for fun. I love history. But yea, no, the bible is a bunch of fairytales, barely anything mentioned in it happened. It's all moral teaching fables or propaganda for the Israelites to make themselves seem more important than they really were. Actually, based on linguistic evidence, they now believe the Israelites were Canaanites. This is also based on the fact that the Israelites originally worshiped El, the primary god of the Canaanite pantheon. Before adopting the worship of YHWH the Midianite god of Metallurgy and war. The Egyptians were actually the first to mention the god YHWH in history. He is referred to as the god of the desert bandits for all intents and purposes.
16:03 That's because in the bible Ramses' father had a nameless daughter, she was the one who found Moses in the river and adopted him and SHE was the firstborn, since she was already dead when the Angel of Death came, Ramses only had to mourn his son, not his sister. In case you're wondering, yes, that would make Ramses more like Moses' uncle, they considered each other brothers because they were raised together and the age gap was short enough to make it weird for Moses to call him "Uncle".
@pendragonsxskywalkers9518 Pharaoh’s daughter opened the basket, looked at the baby, and saw it was a boy. He was crying, and she felt sorry for him. She said, “This is one of the Hebrew children.” 7 Then the baby’s sister asked Pharaoh’s daughter, “Should I go and get one of the Hebrew women to nurse the baby for you?” [...] She took the child and nursed him. 10 When the child was old enough, she brought him to Pharaoh’s daughter, and he became her son. Pharaoh’s daughter named him Moses (Pulled Out) and said, “I pulled him out of the water.” Moses and Ramses were about the same age, if the Pharaoh's daughter was old enough to adopt him (Moses), she needed to be older than Ramses. The bible never mentioned any other siblings but even if she wasn't the firstborn Ramses still would've been spared
@@pendragonsxskywalkers9518 Now, I admit that that last part was more assumption than fact, the princess was really only mentioned once or twice in the bible, since Ramses is only angry for the death of his son, I believe she either wasn't in Egypt when the tenth plague hit or was already dead
@@bebellatrix4124 Chronicles 4, 17 mentions that Pharaoh's daughter (Bitya) married name called Mered and had children by him. For what I know in Jewish tradition she is said to left Egypt with Israeli people and converted to judaism, which fits Chronicles's narration. But even if she didn't, and this Bitya was daughter of different ruler, nowhere in Bible it is said she was firstborn. Is Islam this royal woman - whose name is Asiya - indeed loses her life before tenth plague.
Actually Pharaoh's married their daughters/sisters so she was both his daughter and his wife. The reason she's already dead is because Egypt has a tradition were wives are killed and entombed with their husbands.
The reason this religious movie succeeds where others fail is because it works as secular media as well as religious. It’s so much more than some paint-by-numbers moralistic parable, it’s a tragedy about brotherhood and duty and fate.
Most religious media fail because they use god as a script convinience and the story makes no sense. In the prince of Egypt god is like an unstoppable force of nature (like a god should be) he will act no matter who favours or opposes him, there's no point in trying to stop him.
Kind of but not really it works mostly as religious propaganda considering you are finding out that it's very unlikely there was any let alone that many Hebrew slaves in Egypt
@@Nomsynho You consider breaking out into the video game sector with these type of videos; because I think resident evil from Umbrellas point of view or even Weskers pov would be funny. You could also give Halo a go from the pov of the prophet of Truth.
Honestly its a tragedy from moses prespective as well. Hes turned by god against whats essentily his brother whom he grew up with and loved. He then inflicted 9 plagues on the nation he considered his home culminating with him killing what's essentialy his nephew. And for what? , for wandering for 40 years in the desert and dying before entering the promised land.
As a descendant of people who were freed under Harriet Tubman's guidance, I gotta disagree with this gang. You don't enslave an entire people and think its an OK thing to do.
@@okamiexe1501 It's still tragic; regardless of the circumstance he was stripped of the family that raised him by a war of rights and culture, killed countless children who had nothing to do with slavery, and his people went from indenturrd servitude to beibg nomads everyone hated for millenia. In the story of exodus one terrible situation was traded for another that was little better, and it cost Moses everything but his life. That's really tragic, if his people returned home and lived well, that would be bittersweet, but they kinda got monkey pawed.
@@okamiexe1501 While this is true, slavery in the US was a byproduct of old European standards. The civil war was a war between which economy prevailed. The founding fathers needed the support of the pro-slave south to win the revolutionary war. and slavery was a highly contentious thing even during its founding. The term, "A more perfect union" was an acknowledgement that sure things were messed up now in terms of a government, but with time, more sensible policies would prevail. The real tragedy is that while the US won the civil war, we lost reconstruction. If Abe Lincoln wasn't shot by some B-list actor, we would be in a much better position today. Unfortunately, we ended up with Jim Crow and over 100 years of delays in progress.
The story from Ramases’ perspective is actually really depressing. It’s basically him growing up in a kindof co-dependent relationship with his brother, only to have his brother flip out and bail with no-contact once they actually had the power they always wanted. Then when Moses comes back several years later, and Ramases is excited because he finally has his brother back(because ruling together was always the plan), Moses doesn’t want anything to do with co-ruling or their relationship, he just wants to tear everything down. Then he does, kills your son, and leaves again. The supreme irony being that had Ramases not valued their relationship so highly, and killed Moses like he would any other badlands chieftain that ran his mouth, all of the horror would have been averted.
The hand of God… (at least in this film) works in mysterious and psychologically damaging ways for all involved. Cause… Prolonged slavery of the of god’s chosen people = bad
I think we forgot that the purpose was to release Hebrew slaves. Ramses did not want to free them. And ended the issue with what the first Pharoah started. Why blame God for man's arrogance? I don't think some of you watch the movie or read the story
I mean...moses was like "bro you know...just release my people they are kinda da suffering because you know slavery isn't good" and Ramses was like "hellnah now they would do double " kinda deserved tbh.
@@sleepyninjarin7971 we spent enough time and enough moral ambiguity was provided by the advisors that it is hard to NOT feel for him. Also, the breaking of strong bonds definitely will bring out the feels. It very well writen
It's honestly not that simple. Imagine, you're in the position to make that choice. Remember that choosing to free them all will cripple your kingdom and likely cost tons of lives. The realistic solution would have been to offer Moses a deal. He would do his best to fix this system in his reign and abolish slavery. But for now he still needs the workforce, but the slaves will be treated better over time until they're equal to normal workers. This compromise would eventually free Moses people while not sacrificing the empire's stability. Also, realistically the freed slaves would just die before they can build anything significant from nothing lol. Ofc god is in this story so he probably kept them safe and well fed. This story also is just such a self debunk of the bible. Because according to this story, some humans are NOT gods people. So he didn't create them all or he has favorites, aka he's not all good/loving. But anyone who actually read the bible would know god is not loving at all. He's quite the whimsical mass murderer. Not even just the big catastrophes. He used bears to pettily kill children on multiple occasions lmao. God's a real psycho. No wonder humans are as messed up as they are if they're made in god's image 😂
It's hard to poke fun at this movie. Not only is it so very religious, but it's also a masterpiece. I still find it so wild that they took a story so religiously rooted and then changed the focus, to make it really be about the conflict between these brothers.
It's really easy to poke fun at religious stuff, its honestly a low hanging fruit... Certainly, one shouldn't poke fun at religion because it is a low hanging fruit, but because the members want to push it all the time, it becomes reasonable to poke fun at it again.
I am mostly going from memory but, as I recall, the ten plagues were actually easily explained via natural events leading to cause and effect chains. The blood(1), whatever it actually was (common theory is red tide algea), killed the fish that ate the frogs and their eggs. The frogs(2) then hatched out in record numbers because there were less eaten. They died and their bodies rotted in greater than normal numbers providing sustenance for insect life. That caused a dramatic increase in the lice(3) and biting fly(4) populations. More biting insects means higher likelihood of diseases spreading thus the mass deaths of the livestock(5). It also meant a lot more boils(6) on people due to the increased biting. The hail(7) is a normal thing that happens and could have just been more severe than normal, same with the locusts(8). The three days of darkness(9), possibly a long sandstorm? Not a lot on that one though. Then we come to the big one. The deaths of the first born(10). When the hail came, there was panic to get the crops in quickly so as to save as much as possible. As a result, they likely would have not been as thorough in checking for mold. In times of crisis, the Egyptians fed their first born sons more to improve the chances kf the family line making it through. More infested food for specifically the first born sons meant they were most affected. As for the blood over the door preventing it, anyone who would have listened to that likely would have also adhered to hebrew traditions involving more meticulously cleaning of the food and care for it's storage which means they would jave found the mold and not been exposed. Again, this is from memory so it could be a bit off but I feel like it holds up nicely.
I have a few problems with this theory. I'd rather just believe that the Bible is true and take it at face value, seeing as these were supernatural works that could not ordinarily be explained, especially in such quick succession. May the Lord God bless you all. Turn away from sin and believe in Jesus Christ for salvation
@@reynardvanderwalt8251what are your problems with this theory? If you can explain why these aren’t plausible explanations I would be very interested especially as you specifically state ordinary reasoning can’t explain it despite the reasoning being the comment you responded to
The funniest bit about Prince of Egypt is that it was supposed to be DreamWorks money maker for that year. Yeah, sure, it did well, no doubt about that. But the ironic part about it is Shrek. Shrek was supposed to be the production "gulag" where DreamWorks sent their troublemakers to work on a project they didnt put much stock into. Turns out Shrek would out perform Prince of Egypt in every way possible aside from the abso-fucking-lutely beautiful animation style PoE presented. Its kinda sad in a way. American hand-drawn animation was really doing something in this era, and we kind of just dropped it over CGI and other means of animation. Like, seriously: Lost City of Atlantis, Prince of Egypt, Treasure Planet, The Iron Giant? All of these were seriously underrated films.
When Moses went to Pharaoh and demanded he let the Hebrews go, imagine how funny it would've been if Pharaoh said "Ok, fine. Your people are free and no longer welcome in Egypt." Then signed a proclamation or whatever essentially kicking the Hebrews out. It's a totally different vibe when you're forced to leave lol.
Theres a huge difference between the slaves of Egypt and the ones of Israel, the ones of Egypt worked day and night in the blistering sun with no pay the ones of Israel can be described more accurately as servants, they get housing, the liberty to marry and live pretty good lives for there time
This movie is a masterpiece. Extraordinarily adult for a cartoon, especially considering when it came out. And yes, i too watched it for the first time at school.
It really was quite good. It's also one of the few stories that didn't feel preachy. It wasn't a lesson in following a specific religion. Just God saying "Hey, I don't want my people as your slaves. Let them go or else.". No demands of conversion or anything. So many religious stories have that element pretty front and center and it gets old after a while but this did it pretty well.
@@Akhelium I mean sure there's a TON of brain rot out there. But good animated stories for all ages do exist. You just have to get a curated list from someone.
It's crazy how many well known actors are in this, Val Kilmer, Sandra bullock, Jeff goldblum, Steve Martin, Patrick Stewart, Martin short, I never realized that as a kid, the Prince of Egypt is probably the best animated film of all time, even though it's not 100% Biblically accurate, it's still q great movie
Funny overall. I'm a Christian and understand jokes are jokes, if anyone is getting offended then don't worry about it. People should understand what a joke is
i feel if people learned the real story they would feel sorry about Rameses, cause in the actual book story so many times Rameses actually agrees to let the Hebrews go, but God himself hardens his heart to make him refuse to let them go, all because god wanted the Hebrews to watch his power and TRULY believe in him (aka be loyal af) wich in a way makes god a type of dictator
The Bible never says Pharaoh’s name (he probably wasn’t Rameses) and the correct translation is strengthen and the first few times, Pharaoh strengthens his own heart against the plagues before G-d starts doing that Himself
To be specific, "Harden ones heart" in Hebrew means to "Strengthen one's resolve". There are many ways God could have strengthen Pharaoh's resolve in his rebellion, but it's clear it was all Pharaoh's choice in the end.
Well it's a good thing the whole story is made up. No joke, it was made up by the Canaanites to make their origin story sound badarse. They weren't smote by god and replaced by Moses' followers, they're one and the same.
Please do the first Transformers from Megatron's perspective. He literally landed on Earth in Antartica with the very mcguffin he's been looking for mere feet away and he got frozen. He then wakes up decades later in a secret military facility inside a giant wall made by upright-walking ants dressed in silly outfits and doing primitive science experiments. He breaks out, meets up with his hommies, is told his arch nemesis is on the planet with his soldiers and they have the mcguffin. He goes to face him, succeeds in owning his forcess and his arch enemy, only to get killed by one particular ant with the very mcguffin he was looking in the most absurd way possible that not even he saw coming nor probably understood in his last moments (Also, Transformers: Dark of the Moon is an absolute gem from both Optimus Prime and Megatron's perspectives).
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I'm an Atheist/Agnostic and this movie is still a masterpiece imo, absolute perfection Anyways Megamind but from Tighten's perspective please please please 😭🙏
I mean I just cannot believe the caliber of voice actors in this film... Like Moses/God are VAL KILMER?! Like what... It's so random but it makes sense why, the dude can sing... He was Jim Morrison afterall
Rameses is just trying his best to run an extremely stressful family business, the amount of pressure the poor man must be under and now his brother Moses is trying to sabotage his life’s work? It’s extremely tragic, a real shame the shrooms warped Moses’ mind into insanity.
@@thispersonwriting1889 LMAO I remember reading a book about Princess Bintanath as a kid, expecting it to be a nice princess story. Instead, I got an incest romance between two narcissists. I was so traumatized by it that I couldn't take Prince of Egypt seriously anymore. We know that Ramesses married *at least* five of his daughters: Bintanath, Meritamun, Nebettawy, Meritre and Henutmire. In the case of Henutmire, there is even a chance that she was one of the daughters of Ramesses' daughter-wives. Imagine marrying a daughter, having a daughter with your daughter and then marrying that (grand)daughter, what the f- Two other of Ramesses daughters ,Takhat and Anuketemheb, were married to an Egyptian pharaoh, but it is uncertain whether it was the father(Ramesses), brother(Meneptah) or nephew(Seti II). Then there are two more daughters of Ramesses, Baketmut and Henuttawy (not to be confused with the other six daughters of Ramesses who were also all named Henut: Henutmire, Henutpahuro,Henutsekhemu, Henutpare, Henuttaneb and Henuttadesh ) were possibly also wives of their father as in some depictions they were dressed in the garments of queens and not princesses. Ramesses' family tree was a nightmare and the Egyptian succession so chaotic that after Ramesses' death, there was a huge succession crisis. But to be fair, we don't know whether the father-daughter marriages were really consummated
My theory why Ramesis never killed Moses (in the movie) is because he explicitly pardons him for all crimes, now and forever. For Pharaoh to kill Moses would be him going back on his word, and also probably making the royal family look weak. 11:31
It's said in the bible that God purposely hardened Pharaoh's heart and that's the reason why he didn't free the slaves in the first few plagues as they were made to undermine the major Egyptian gods.
@@NomsynhoSo, God hardens his heart by showing him miracles, hardens his heart by demonstrating his power, hardens his heart by demanding he let the people go. God’s not hardening his heart literally by taking his free will away or by doing heart surgery or something like that; He’s hardening his heart by confronting wicked Pharaoh with light, and Pharaoh closes his eyes. This is what Jesus does in the Gospels when He shows His miracles to the Pharisees, and they reject Him. It hardens their hearts, but only by Him doing the very thing that would soften the heart of a person who’s open to God. edit, hope that makes sense for you guys
@@55alegria we don’t see this sort of single-cause thing where God just grabs someone’s heart and says, 'I’m going to make you reject me.' No, no, it’s like, 'You’re going to reject me, and as I show you more light, you’re going to reject me even more because you’re going to harden your heart. I’ll harden it by showing you more light.' That’s how I see it.
just a reminder. "And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go."-Exodus 4:21
could you imagine if Disney films had did a movie on King James Oh! My Gosh! the content he'd have to work with! King James the 1st if im not mistaken.
It's even more sad in the Bible. God literally made the pharaoh a cruel bastard then punished innocent Egyptians for it. Exodus 4:21 21 And Yehováh said to Moses, “When you go back to Egypt, see that you do before Pharaoh all the miracles that I have put in your power. But I will harden his heart, so that he will not let the people go.
God made the pharaoh no more evil than he already was. Notice that God didn’t harden the pharaoh’s heart untill the 6th plague, and the very next plague Pharaoh hardens his own heart. In this way God was merely acting in accordance with the pharaoh’s will. Let’s not kid ourselves he wouldn’t let God’s people go no matter what - he and his ancestors were abusing God’s nation and the Egyptians were complicit in that.
@@atenek9243 It literally says he harden the pharaoh's heart before Moses asked for his people to be set free. The pharaoh had no choice in the matter. It's even brought up in the New testament how God was a prick and cruel to the Egyptians.
@he had the choice - see all the verses when he did harden his heart on his own. Knowledge of the outcome does not negate free will. Also do you know the reason Moses was sent to the israelites - to free his people who suffered under egyptians ? They literally killed their babies
@@atenek9243 7:3 literally says "But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and though I multiply my signs and wonders in Egypt, he will not listen to you." before any of the plagues happened. Yes, sometimes he did harden his own heart, but other times it was clear that his heart hardening was from an external source. A lot of references actually show that no one hardened the Pharaoh's heart but rather that it was already hardened or through other people's actions (7:22, 8:16), and was predisposed to act a certain way rather than an active choice. Whenever the Pharaoh would have hardened his heart already (8:15, 8:32), God didn't do anything to soften it. Whenever the Pharaoh wouldn't have hardened his heart, God hardened his heart for him (7:13, 9:12). That doesn't sound like he had much of a choice; it sounds like God wanted it to go a certain way, and it did.
0:08 You think showing a religious movie at school is a common thing? Maybe, but I grew up in an extremely religious area, and my public school never showed us anything like this, just an endless stream of Land Before Time movies
Oh, we where shown this in 3rd or 4th grade when we where learning about Judaism in school. Not sure if your school had anything similar but we had a class Called RLE (religion, lifestyle and ethics(they later changed it to KRLE where the k was from Christianity))
Cool thing about this (I think it happened at the end of Genesis/ the beginning of Exodus) is that when God sent the 10 plagues He was fighting against 10 gods of Egypt. God was showing Egypt who the one true living God is so much so that some of the Egyptians converted after everything that happened.
9:30 One little thing about snakes in ancient Egyptian culture.......Snakes were seen as a symbol of royalty and divinity. So, with that *one* subtle move......taking his staff, holding it out and using God's powers to turn it into a snake, not only did Moses symbolically establish God's divinity and authority, he also showed that, due to his ability and authority to use God's power, he was a messenger and servant of God, placing *him* in a place of high authority using Egypt's culture and religious beliefs.......It makes it *a lot* less confusing, knowing that......and also shows that right off the bat, he wasn't playing around! He gave the Egyptians a *strong* sign about who, and what he was......And, they ignored it........
Furthermore, his snake killing and eating the snakes conjured by the priests was another sign or symbol of his authority. By so doing, he symbolically showed that the authority of their gods, and the authority of their priests and the Pharaoh was lesser to his and God's, if not false.
Ultimately it was a very sad ending for the two brothers. Rameses lost his son, his brother, and his people suffered all because he was mislead by some priests with smoke and mirrors while Moses ended up being tormented by the horrors inflicted on the egyptians then wandered the desert for the rest of his life.
I always thought it was loykey awful that he killed the grandchild of the woman who adopted him. Way to show gratitude. He probably could have played buddy buddy with his brother for a year and then just told Ramses it hurt him to see his people treated so badly, and he would have changed things willingly.
That's what makes it so tragic: Moses was mostly forced into a role he didn't want, but he went through with it because he knew it wasn't worth it to keep letting his people suffer, especially after discovering his heritage and what the previous pharaoh did to babies like him. It was eating him inside though because he had to cause more suffering to those he still cared about, and even though he got what he wanted, it had to come at the cost of one more innocent soul. That's why he broke down in tears after leaving Ramses, because he wanted things to play out differently just as much as Ramses did
@@queenratiganthefirst5442 Every thing he did was because he wanted the one girl who said no when he had a harem following him around. Even from his perspective, it would be a tall order to spin that into anything positive sounding. I REALLY look forward to him taking on that challenge.
Thank you! After a rewatch of Prince of Egypt a few years ago, I started to really feel for Ramses! It was awkward because I'm pretty religious. Lol. It's important to remember that this is a theatrical retelling of the Moses story, but it also challenges one's own notions about it. When you grow up with the story, you just imagine Ramses as a purely evil man, but the more you think about it, you remember that he was just a human guy who made bad decisions. To paraphrase Solzhenytsen, the boundaries of evil lie in each person's heart, and it's up to them whether they cross that line. Great video!!
Oddly enough, I’m not religious but this movie is my comfort movie. I’ve watched it several times over the years since 5th grade and now I’m 25. I still think because Rameses was accused by his father of destroying the dynasty, it really solidified into Rameses’ actions later on. He does repeat, “I will not be the WEAK LINK,” mirroring when Seti told him “but one weak link can break the chain of a mighty dynasty.” And then his actions led him to not only lose what his father was so set on building, but also made him lose his son and once again, his brother. I think Rameses is such a sad character.
Rameses already had everything he wanted as Pharaoh. His own insecurity of looking weak made him not want to free the slaves. Moses made Rameses feel insecure by telling him God’s commander and not him. Rameses is an insecure person who could have been humble, but instead became prideful. Moses is a confident person who could have been prideful, but instead became humble.
The funny thing is, archeologists, Egyptologists, and historians are pretty well in agreement that the story in Exodus isn’t actually true. There’s no evidence for the ancient Israelites being in or coming from Egypt, and plenty of evidence for them having originated in ancient Canaan.
Fun fact! A key point in the biblical Exodus narrative is the fact that the Israelites only end up in Egypt because of famine in Canaan. Joseph, an Israelite before the time of Moses, gets booted from his family and eventually, through a convoluted series of events, winds up advisor to one of the Pharaohs. Canaan gets hit with a famine and Joseph's family seeks out food in Egypt, which has food because Joseph gave the Pharaoh good advice, are reconciled with Joseph and settle down in Egypt. Eventually, Joseph dies as does the Pharaoh, and the Pharaoh's successor gets scared that Joseph's decedents might pose a threat to him and he enslaves them. Thus, the situation at the beginning of Exodus.
1:52 Quick pause to say- Every time I saw this movie as a child, I wanted to eat that flower she handed to her son. I still wonder what that flower would taste/feel like-
YES! RUclips didn't copyright strike your video😃 Miriam the girl actually goes up to the daughter of Pharoh, not queen, to ask if she want a baby siter which was their own family, and she agrees so Moses still grows up with his own family and they actually get paid for their labor. This entire course of this story actually takes 80 years, 40 years as Egyptians then 40 years in Midian before called by God, but you wouldn't know just by watching this movie.
Your comedy style is epic, your delivery great. I appreciate your closer, it was an excellent reminder to separate the man from the medium. Thanks for your creative endeavours.
Ramses II wasn’t the first born child of Seti I. He was technically the middle child. The rule from god was the first born child would die, and only a few women would be spared. Given that information, God therefore can’t break his own rule to kill Ramses, because he’s the middle child. Not much is known about his older sister Tia
Well to be fair the priests made two sticks-snakes so I think it’s right to assume that Ra is at least twice as strong as their god. At the very least in the snakes-out-of-sticks part of the business
Imagine how powerful you could be if you worshipped the sticks-into-snakes god!!! 🤩 Especially since, as we see in the movie, the size of the snake is related to the size of the stick. Technically, a downed tree could be seen as a stick. Or a teeny tiny twig. So many options! So much variety! By the power of Ra! 🥳💖
It's crazy that the pharaoh didn't kill mosses despite doing all this to his people and son, just because mosses himself was a brother/best friend growing up
Thank you for the exceptional background Zelda music and also for shouting out the plagues as going unreasonably hard. The plagues was my top song on Spotify last year
And even worse, according to the source material Mozes' God literally HARDENED Ramses' heart. He would've let them go far sooner, only he was prevented in doing so! Luckily evidence suggests that this particular story never actually happened, so that's a consolation.
Actually, the correct translation is “strengthened his heart”, the first few times it was Pharaoh himself who strengthened his own heart and its very likely that Ramses wasn’t actually the Pharaoh of the Exodus
Another way to say it is " Strengthen one's resolve" in Hebrew. Many ways for God to strengthen Pharaoh's resolve to keep rebelling against him, but it was all Pharaoh's choice
If anyone likes The Plagues song from Prince of Egypt, you should look up the cover by Elsie Lovelock The song goes hard, but she makes it at leat twice as hard and having a woman sing it is neat
@@maxstrike3022 No need to try, he'd sit there and take it if he wants them free that bad. And there's no way his god would be fine with genociding babies but not letting a single man die to get what he wants.
There's always been a quite popular theory that the story of Moses was accidentally mis-attributed to Ramses and instead was the result of the volcano in Santorini 500 miles north that wiped out the Minoans. It would provide a "chain of events" similar to the plagues (starting from Cinnabar-laced ash that would have turned the Nile red,) and would have the added benefit of creating erratic enough weather that it could generate winds strong enough to create a "standing wave" effect in the "Sea of Reeds" instead of the Red Sea, an oft-cited mistranslated of the original text, similar to a "parting" that would have subsided when the winds shifted during the night/day cycle.
To be fair moses only asked ramses to free the hebrew slaves, there were plenty of other kinds of slaves , btw the israelites continued using nonhebrew lifelong slaves after being freed ( the year of jubilee was only for israelites)
Musical logic tend to be: Spoken- people in world can hear sung- purely for the audience's sake, not heard by characters I feel like this stands here too
Your take on this is so depressing! Great video but when gerudo valley starts playing my brain shuts everything else out, it’s too much of a banger. Anyway thanks for this video, well done
0:46 The good old days of tripping balls and blaming your adopted brother for your issues, classic. Also, if your workforce were non Egyptian you could say it was built by aliens.
hahhahah man
I'm not saying it was the aliens but it definitely was the aliens, ancient aliens. * csi Miami theme intensifies *
😂
Lol that Pyramid alien joke.
The plot twist of a century
Imagine the splitting of the Red Sea from a fish's perspective.
Yeah let's go to the grocery fishtore as every day...
What do you MEAN the road is closed? How is that possible?? That's never even happened before!!
@@LostSoulSilver Or worse, come home to find your fish husband and all your fish children have asphyxiated on the exposed ocean floor.
Ate least the fish had something else to eat that day.
The whale that swam.by had to be like wtf is this???? Lol
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The real villain are the advisor charlatans. They convinced Ramses that the miracles that Moses' God was performing weren't special.
Exactly! Always hated those two as a kid (though their song is beyond kickass).
Well if we read the Bible, it says clearly that God hardens the Pharaoh heart, meaning God made him not listening while God was punishing Egypt as a whole instead of the rulers. So God is the bad guy. I mean, he could just teleport the slaves away from Egypt into the promised land anyways...
@Jake007123 that's not what that means in context. When it says God hardened Pharoahs heart, it was referring to how this supreme God's power would inevitably reveal the stubbornness of a human who thought he was a god. Pharoahs believed they were gods on earth. Moses's God proved they weren't and Pharoah hated that. Also, it wasn't just about the people being free. It was God returning some portion of the 430 odd years stolen from them by the Egyptians through slavery.
The real villain is the Hebrew god. He performed those miracles and then specifically went out of his way to harden Ramses' heart (resulting in him not letting the Hebrew go) to make him and everybody suffer more than needed just to prove a point. Like, what kind of sadistic god does that? Did he get some sick enjoyment out of actively escalating the situation instead of, you know, not hardening Ramses' heart so that he would let the Hebrew go after the first scourge, saving a lot of suffering on both sides.
@JohnSkilz God's actions made Ramses chose to harden his heart, he still had free will.
Basically, when your brother goes nuts but your parents blame you for not being enough compassionate.
So a basic sibling dynamic-
I can defend her majesty treating younger Moses better than Ramses considering the very religious beliefs of the Egyptians at that time. For all she knew, it was a gift from the gods that a baby arrived to the kingdom in the river Nile without anything happening to it. So in essence, Moses became like a deity symbol aside from being the Prince of Egypt (title card). Moses literally means "to be pulled out/drawn out" from water. Hebrew translation is the name Moses as the Ancient Egyptian of it is lost to time, but that is pretty much the significance of his origin.
Oh that's cool :D
Well, the Pharaoh’s daughter obviously knew Moses is a Hebrew. Exodus 2:6 And when she had opened it, she saw the child: and, behold, the babe wept. And she had compassion on him, and said, This is one of the Hebrews' children. She was a woman with a great heart, knowing the command of her father but defying nonetheless.
What I found weird was the fact that Ramses Father the guy who presumably started this whole mess most likely died without receiving any retribution for his deeds yet it still falls all on Ramses simply because the other guy is dead.
No escaping judgement of the soul, brother.
Yes but even if the father had lived to preside over the plagues, Ramses would still be the firstborn son to die. So he gets a pretty bad deal no matter what
The sins of the father fall upon the son.
@@mandalorethemaximum1408 “The son will not bear the punishment for the sin of the father, nor will the father bear the punishment for the sin of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be on himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be on himself.”
@davidbarton8375 yes but also...Job.
It is wild to me just how well this movie still holds up overall. I’m not even religious but it is such a heartbreaking tale of how two brothers can be fundamentally opposed to each other but still desperately don’t want to carry out what they see as their responsibilities and burdens.
That song still gives me chills.
Except that professionals built the pyramids.
@@dansmith1661 And the entire Moses story is completely fictional. Like that's not me being an edgy atheist, that's literally what they teach in seminary college.
Yeah I’m usually not big on modifying historical narratives (truth is everyone in Moses’s family kinda hated him) but it is an exceptional narrative in its own right.
It shows how freat Prince of Egypt is when switching the perspectives still gices you a complex and well written story.
The movie draws attention to Rameses’s perspective though
Fun fact, Ramses II (The Ramses in this film) is the phaoroh named Ozymandias by the greeks, supposedly responsible for the 'Look upon my works ye mighty and dispair' quote after having built the most prosperous civilization in history (up to that point)... until his brother came home.
True, it's almost hilarious
Other than the fact that according to archeology, Moses never existed. So, you got it all right, until that point...
Not even to mention the bible doesn't even get its dates right, the various facts around the story itself have events from a range of about 300 years, all supposedly happening at the same time. Which is very common in the bible, the few historical things it gets right, are always during the wrong date by 50-300 years...
@@TyHernandez-q9v the pharaoh is not even named, so most works of fiction just assume its rameses for some reason, some dispute that the whole captivity in egypt and the exodus actually happened or if its just more tales, as it turns out, the guys writing the book really liked to exagerate stuff, they do that a lot when telling about the conquest of canaan and the wars that happened between the israelites and the other caananites, which mostly historians says not only didn't happen but the israelites and caananites actually lived together quite okay, so the cultural-religious divide between them was a latter development which was retroactively inserted later when they were writing their own history, they exagerate the numbers of the people they destroy and so on, so yeah, a lot of things there are kinda unreliable at face value
@@wiel5908
They use the context of the actual historical events mentioned to narrow down the Pharaoh who would have been in power.
The actual historical events mentioned occurred within a stretch of roughly 500 years. So multiple Pharaohs ruled in that time.
Its also part of the reason we know the Exodus isn't real, because when we compare the writings to verified archeology, the dates cannot possibly line up.
But yes, I actually read all the history and archeology myself for fun. I love history. But yea, no, the bible is a bunch of fairytales, barely anything mentioned in it happened. It's all moral teaching fables or propaganda for the Israelites to make themselves seem more important than they really were.
Actually, based on linguistic evidence, they now believe the Israelites were Canaanites. This is also based on the fact that the Israelites originally worshiped El, the primary god of the Canaanite pantheon. Before adopting the worship of YHWH the Midianite god of Metallurgy and war. The Egyptians were actually the first to mention the god YHWH in history. He is referred to as the god of the desert bandits for all intents and purposes.
16:03 That's because in the bible Ramses' father had a nameless daughter, she was the one who found Moses in the river and adopted him and SHE was the firstborn, since she was already dead when the Angel of Death came, Ramses only had to mourn his son, not his sister.
In case you're wondering, yes, that would make Ramses more like Moses' uncle, they considered each other brothers because they were raised together and the age gap was short enough to make it weird for Moses to call him "Uncle".
There was never said in Bible that daughter of Pharaoh was his first-born. And she was not dead by the time of Angel.
@pendragonsxskywalkers9518 Pharaoh’s daughter opened the basket, looked at the baby, and saw it was a boy. He was crying, and she felt sorry for him. She said, “This is one of the Hebrew children.”
7 Then the baby’s sister asked Pharaoh’s daughter, “Should I go and get one of the Hebrew women to nurse the baby for you?” [...]
She took the child and nursed him. 10 When the child was old enough, she brought him to Pharaoh’s daughter, and he became her son. Pharaoh’s daughter named him Moses (Pulled Out) and said, “I pulled him out of the water.”
Moses and Ramses were about the same age, if the Pharaoh's daughter was old enough to adopt him (Moses), she needed to be older than Ramses. The bible never mentioned any other siblings but even if she wasn't the firstborn Ramses still would've been spared
@@pendragonsxskywalkers9518 Now, I admit that that last part was more assumption than fact, the princess was really only mentioned once or twice in the bible, since Ramses is only angry for the death of his son, I believe she either wasn't in Egypt when the tenth plague hit or was already dead
@@bebellatrix4124 Chronicles 4, 17 mentions that Pharaoh's daughter (Bitya) married name called Mered and had children by him. For what I know in Jewish tradition she is said to left Egypt with Israeli people and converted to judaism, which fits Chronicles's narration. But even if she didn't, and this Bitya was daughter of different ruler, nowhere in Bible it is said she was firstborn. Is Islam this royal woman - whose name is Asiya - indeed loses her life before tenth plague.
Actually Pharaoh's married their daughters/sisters so she was both his daughter and his wife. The reason she's already dead is because Egypt has a tradition were wives are killed and entombed with their husbands.
The reason this religious movie succeeds where others fail is because it works as secular media as well as religious. It’s so much more than some paint-by-numbers moralistic parable, it’s a tragedy about brotherhood and duty and fate.
With good animation and a *killer* soundtrack
Most religious media fail because they use god as a script convinience and the story makes no sense. In the prince of Egypt god is like an unstoppable force of nature (like a god should be) he will act no matter who favours or opposes him, there's no point in trying to stop him.
And also because the story is based on Old Testament only...👃
@@catalinacaro8183 Beautifully put.
Kind of but not really it works mostly as religious propaganda considering you are finding out that it's very unlikely there was any let alone that many Hebrew slaves in Egypt
Patiently waiting for a "Road to Eldorado from Tzekel-Kan perspective" video
As much as I'd like to, I'm hesitant to make videos on DreamWorks for a while, atleast until after I see what happens with Bee Movie
@Nomsynho you're dead to me
@Nomsynho just kidding, I look forward to whatever you put out nomsy
It's alright bro, it's frustrating for me too because Dreamworks has been some of my best videos y'know?
@@Nomsynho You consider breaking out into the video game sector with these type of videos; because I think resident evil from Umbrellas point of view or even Weskers pov would be funny. You could also give Halo a go from the pov of the prophet of Truth.
Appreciate you turning everyone's voice into an old timey radio host to avoid copyright strikes.
Gotta do what I gotta do... DreamWorks cancelled my appeal on Bee Movie... So...
Honestly its a tragedy from moses prespective as well.
Hes turned by god against whats essentily his brother whom he grew up with and loved.
He then inflicted 9 plagues on the nation he considered his home culminating with him killing what's essentialy his nephew.
And for what? , for wandering for 40 years in the desert and dying before entering the promised land.
As a descendant of people who were freed under Harriet Tubman's guidance, I gotta disagree with this gang. You don't enslave an entire people and think its an OK thing to do.
@@okamiexe1501 It's still tragic; regardless of the circumstance he was stripped of the family that raised him by a war of rights and culture, killed countless children who had nothing to do with slavery, and his people went from indenturrd servitude to beibg nomads everyone hated for millenia. In the story of exodus one terrible situation was traded for another that was little better, and it cost Moses everything but his life. That's really tragic, if his people returned home and lived well, that would be bittersweet, but they kinda got monkey pawed.
Did you like forget plot about the tens of thousands of slaves he wanted freed or..
@@okamiexe1501 While this is true, slavery in the US was a byproduct of old European standards. The civil war was a war between which economy prevailed. The founding fathers needed the support of the pro-slave south to win the revolutionary war. and slavery was a highly contentious thing even during its founding. The term, "A more perfect union" was an acknowledgement that sure things were messed up now in terms of a government, but with time, more sensible policies would prevail. The real tragedy is that while the US won the civil war, we lost reconstruction. If Abe Lincoln wasn't shot by some B-list actor, we would be in a much better position today. Unfortunately, we ended up with Jim Crow and over 100 years of delays in progress.
all for the coming of The Lord and Savior Yeshua Hamashiech aka Jesus Christ
The story from Ramases’ perspective is actually really depressing. It’s basically him growing up in a kindof co-dependent relationship with his brother, only to have his brother flip out and bail with no-contact once they actually had the power they always wanted. Then when Moses comes back several years later, and Ramases is excited because he finally has his brother back(because ruling together was always the plan), Moses doesn’t want anything to do with co-ruling or their relationship, he just wants to tear everything down. Then he does, kills your son, and leaves again.
The supreme irony being that had Ramases not valued their relationship so highly, and killed Moses like he would any other badlands chieftain that ran his mouth, all of the horror would have been averted.
The hand of God… (at least in this film) works in mysterious and psychologically damaging ways for all involved.
Cause… Prolonged slavery of the of god’s chosen people = bad
So Moses was the true heartless one.
I think we forgot that the purpose was to release Hebrew slaves. Ramses did not want to free them. And ended the issue with what the first Pharoah started. Why blame God for man's arrogance? I don't think some of you watch the movie or read the story
I mean...moses was like "bro you know...just release my people they are kinda da suffering because you know slavery isn't good" and Ramses was like "hellnah now they would do double " kinda deserved tbh.
@@RuneRelationsI'm pretty sure God didn't like ALL slavery
This is such a fun concept for a video, I always found it kinda heartbreaking from rameses' perspective... but also just free his people!
@@sleepyninjarin7971 we spent enough time and enough moral ambiguity was provided by the advisors that it is hard to NOT feel for him. Also, the breaking of strong bonds definitely will bring out the feels. It very well writen
It's honestly not that simple.
Imagine, you're in the position to make that choice. Remember that choosing to free them all will cripple your kingdom and likely cost tons of lives.
The realistic solution would have been to offer Moses a deal. He would do his best to fix this system in his reign and abolish slavery. But for now he still needs the workforce, but the slaves will be treated better over time until they're equal to normal workers.
This compromise would eventually free Moses people while not sacrificing the empire's stability.
Also, realistically the freed slaves would just die before they can build anything significant from nothing lol.
Ofc god is in this story so he probably kept them safe and well fed.
This story also is just such a self debunk of the bible. Because according to this story, some humans are NOT gods people. So he didn't create them all or he has favorites, aka he's not all good/loving.
But anyone who actually read the bible would know god is not loving at all. He's quite the whimsical mass murderer. Not even just the big catastrophes. He used bears to pettily kill children on multiple occasions lmao. God's a real psycho. No wonder humans are as messed up as they are if they're made in god's image 😂
It's been proven that the pyramids were NOT built by slaves. They were highly paid, skilled workers.
@@ardynizunia9709You do know the Jews are called Gods people specifically because of the covenant with Abraham. He's still the God of all people.
@@ardynizunia9709"Some humans are not God's people."
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It's hard to poke fun at this movie. Not only is it so very religious, but it's also a masterpiece. I still find it so wild that they took a story so religiously rooted and then changed the focus, to make it really be about the conflict between these brothers.
And thank goodness they did….
@@cynicalsenpai u got some cans on u
Nice take really
If you want to see a religious story with drastically changed focus, watch Ben Hur.
It's really easy to poke fun at religious stuff, its honestly a low hanging fruit...
Certainly, one shouldn't poke fun at religion because it is a low hanging fruit, but because the members want to push it all the time, it becomes reasonable to poke fun at it again.
I am mostly going from memory but, as I recall, the ten plagues were actually easily explained via natural events leading to cause and effect chains.
The blood(1), whatever it actually was (common theory is red tide algea), killed the fish that ate the frogs and their eggs. The frogs(2) then hatched out in record numbers because there were less eaten. They died and their bodies rotted in greater than normal numbers providing sustenance for insect life. That caused a dramatic increase in the lice(3) and biting fly(4) populations. More biting insects means higher likelihood of diseases spreading thus the mass deaths of the livestock(5). It also meant a lot more boils(6) on people due to the increased biting. The hail(7) is a normal thing that happens and could have just been more severe than normal, same with the locusts(8). The three days of darkness(9), possibly a long sandstorm? Not a lot on that one though. Then we come to the big one. The deaths of the first born(10). When the hail came, there was panic to get the crops in quickly so as to save as much as possible. As a result, they likely would have not been as thorough in checking for mold. In times of crisis, the Egyptians fed their first born sons more to improve the chances kf the family line making it through. More infested food for specifically the first born sons meant they were most affected. As for the blood over the door preventing it, anyone who would have listened to that likely would have also adhered to hebrew traditions involving more meticulously cleaning of the food and care for it's storage which means they would jave found the mold and not been exposed.
Again, this is from memory so it could be a bit off but I feel like it holds up nicely.
Wow this is actually kind of cool
Nice
I have a few problems with this theory. I'd rather just believe that the Bible is true and take it at face value, seeing as these were supernatural works that could not ordinarily be explained, especially in such quick succession. May the Lord God bless you all. Turn away from sin and believe in Jesus Christ for salvation
@@reynardvanderwalt8251what are your problems with this theory? If you can explain why these aren’t plausible explanations I would be very interested especially as you specifically state ordinary reasoning can’t explain it despite the reasoning being the comment you responded to
@@reynardvanderwalt8251 You can believe what you want. I won't begrudge you for that. I'm just positing a totally normal explanation.
The funniest bit about Prince of Egypt is that it was supposed to be DreamWorks money maker for that year. Yeah, sure, it did well, no doubt about that. But the ironic part about it is Shrek. Shrek was supposed to be the production "gulag" where DreamWorks sent their troublemakers to work on a project they didnt put much stock into. Turns out Shrek would out perform Prince of Egypt in every way possible aside from the abso-fucking-lutely beautiful animation style PoE presented.
Its kinda sad in a way. American hand-drawn animation was really doing something in this era, and we kind of just dropped it over CGI and other means of animation. Like, seriously: Lost City of Atlantis, Prince of Egypt, Treasure Planet, The Iron Giant? All of these were seriously underrated films.
When Moses went to Pharaoh and demanded he let the Hebrews go, imagine how funny it would've been if Pharaoh said "Ok, fine. Your people are free and no longer welcome in Egypt." Then signed a proclamation or whatever essentially kicking the Hebrews out. It's a totally different vibe when you're forced to leave lol.
Been kicked out of-
That actually happened to Egyptian Jews in the 50s and 60s and yeah it sucked and was horrible
That happens after the plague of hail but Pharaoh reconsiders
Don't think slaves would care that much.
@@idrisa7909 For no reason, but it happened over 1000 times.
"Because no kingdom should be built on the backs of slaves" is a wild claim from the guy who encoded into law leviticus 25 44-46. Just saying.
L M A O
There's a hilarious vid on the subject "
Bible Slavery: TOTALLY DIFFERENT"
Theres a huge difference between the slaves of Egypt and the ones of Israel, the ones of Egypt worked day and night in the blistering sun with no pay the ones of Israel can be described more accurately as servants, they get housing, the liberty to marry and live pretty good lives for there time
@@Sasugoat...and they have to be let go after the 6th year
@@jacobalexander4167 yeah
This movie is a masterpiece. Extraordinarily adult for a cartoon, especially considering when it came out.
And yes, i too watched it for the first time at school.
It really was quite good. It's also one of the few stories that didn't feel preachy. It wasn't a lesson in following a specific religion. Just God saying "Hey, I don't want my people as your slaves. Let them go or else.". No demands of conversion or anything. So many religious stories have that element pretty front and center and it gets old after a while but this did it pretty well.
When kid's cartoons were still teaching you stuff and were not just brainrot
@@Akhelium I mean sure there's a TON of brain rot out there. But good animated stories for all ages do exist. You just have to get a curated list from someone.
It's crazy how many well known actors are in this, Val Kilmer, Sandra bullock, Jeff goldblum, Steve Martin, Patrick Stewart, Martin short, I never realized that as a kid, the Prince of Egypt is probably the best animated film of all time, even though it's not 100% Biblically accurate, it's still q great movie
It’s pretty accurate
It’s a actually considered by scholars of all 3 Abrahamic faiths to be the best depiction of the story.
Funny overall.
I'm a Christian and understand jokes are jokes, if anyone is getting offended then don't worry about it. People should understand what a joke is
I mean I don't really expect people to take offence but it's better to be sure and to explicitly state there was no ill intention
@@Nomsynho Someone will always take offence.
Ironically it appears the atheists get more offended by our God's actions than we to jokes
@@mleyNukas They show an embarrassingly poor understanding of Scripture.
@Nomsynho can you do wish?i 80% sure you would say the king is genuinely tragic.
First born sons, sons with living fathers is probably the cut off.
Best explanation I can think of
makes sense
It's presented as by-household, so the head of the household wasn't under threat, but his first born son was.
i feel if people learned the real story they would feel sorry about Rameses, cause in the actual book story so many times Rameses actually agrees to let the Hebrews go, but God himself hardens his heart to make him refuse to let them go, all because god wanted the Hebrews to watch his power and TRULY believe in him (aka be loyal af) wich in a way makes god a type of dictator
The Bible never says Pharaoh’s name (he probably wasn’t Rameses) and the correct translation is strengthen and the first few times, Pharaoh strengthens his own heart against the plagues before G-d starts doing that Himself
To be specific, "Harden ones heart" in Hebrew means to "Strengthen one's resolve". There are many ways God could have strengthen Pharaoh's resolve in his rebellion, but it's clear it was all Pharaoh's choice in the end.
God didn’t change anyone’s mind, He simply allowed Pharaoh’s stubbornness to overcome logic, hence “hardening” his heart
Well it's a good thing the whole story is made up. No joke, it was made up by the Canaanites to make their origin story sound badarse. They weren't smote by god and replaced by Moses' followers, they're one and the same.
@@WobblesandBean and it’s an amazing thing God gave all of us to have free will to believe in what we want 😊
I think the whole point of Rameses' character is that you totally understand why he's doing evil things.
Please do the first Transformers from Megatron's perspective. He literally landed on Earth in Antartica with the very mcguffin he's been looking for mere feet away and he got frozen. He then wakes up decades later in a secret military facility inside a giant wall made by upright-walking ants dressed in silly outfits and doing primitive science experiments. He breaks out, meets up with his hommies, is told his arch nemesis is on the planet with his soldiers and they have the mcguffin. He goes to face him, succeeds in owning his forcess and his arch enemy, only to get killed by one particular ant with the very mcguffin he was looking in the most absurd way possible that not even he saw coming nor probably understood in his last moments (Also, Transformers: Dark of the Moon is an absolute gem from both Optimus Prime and Megatron's perspectives).
You are slowly winning me over
5:49 "Some sick chariot skills later" is such an out of hand observation 😂
This channel is so cozy. I usually put this on while I’m like cooking or getting ready for bed or otherwise physically occupied but want something to listen to. This channel works perfect for that and it’s super entertaining. Love the content keep it up 🫶🏼
I'm an Atheist/Agnostic and this movie is still a masterpiece imo, absolute perfection
Anyways Megamind but from Tighten's perspective please please please 😭🙏
I dunno.... I don't really see the value in making a film from an incels perspective. I don't see that ending well.
Can we talk about how Seti has a voice worthy of sailing the very stars?
I mean I just cannot believe the caliber of voice actors in this film... Like Moses/God are VAL KILMER?! Like what... It's so random but it makes sense why, the dude can sing... He was Jim Morrison afterall
15:57 the word firstborn was used basically to mean “heir of a household,” so an adult head of a household wouldn’t be included
Rameses is just trying his best to run an extremely stressful family business, the amount of pressure the poor man must be under and now his brother Moses is trying to sabotage his life’s work? It’s extremely tragic, a real shame the shrooms warped Moses’ mind into insanity.
So you like slavery?
That's pathetic excuses, and I'm disappointed this RUclipsr is liking these comments.
@@echothesilent4693 I think they are joking??
Damn
My comments dont get published
“Monsters Inc” from Boo’s perspective is traumatizing.
I feel like you handled this super respectfully, and I appreciate the disclaimer at the end. Keep up the amazing content!
Poor Ramesses, loosing his son! Every egyptologist knows how close Ramesses was with his children. Especially the daughters-
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH
Wait a minute, what are you talking abou-OH MY GOODNESS!
@@thispersonwriting1889
LMAO I remember reading a book about Princess Bintanath as a kid, expecting it to be a nice princess story. Instead, I got an incest romance between two narcissists. I was so traumatized by it that I couldn't take Prince of Egypt seriously anymore. We know that Ramesses married *at least* five of his daughters: Bintanath, Meritamun, Nebettawy, Meritre and Henutmire. In the case of Henutmire, there is even a chance that she was one of the daughters of Ramesses' daughter-wives. Imagine marrying a daughter, having a daughter with your daughter and then marrying that (grand)daughter, what the f-
Two other of Ramesses daughters ,Takhat and Anuketemheb, were married to an Egyptian pharaoh, but it is uncertain whether it was the father(Ramesses), brother(Meneptah) or nephew(Seti II). Then there are two more daughters of Ramesses, Baketmut and Henuttawy (not to be confused with the other six daughters of Ramesses who were also all named Henut: Henutmire, Henutpahuro,Henutsekhemu, Henutpare, Henuttaneb and Henuttadesh ) were possibly also wives of their father as in some depictions they were dressed in the garments of queens and not princesses. Ramesses' family tree was a nightmare and the Egyptian succession so chaotic that after Ramesses' death, there was a huge succession crisis. But to be fair, we don't know whether the father-daughter marriages were really consummated
are you hinting @ a long time (disturbing) trend amoung American Elites-ist Famalies 🤔
*What did he mean by this?*
I had to sub. He's too genuine of a guy not to love.
Hey thanks, I appreciate that
When your adopted brother takes advantage of a red tide/volcanic event to ruin your family business 💀
My theory why Ramesis never killed Moses (in the movie) is because he explicitly pardons him for all crimes, now and forever. For Pharaoh to kill Moses would be him going back on his word, and also probably making the royal family look weak. 11:31
Great video, as always thank you for supplying us with awesome videos.
It's said in the bible that God purposely hardened Pharaoh's heart and that's the reason why he didn't free the slaves in the first few plagues as they were made to undermine the major Egyptian gods.
Bloody hell, that's ruthless
So, according to the Bible, God is the real villain of the story. Do I have that right?
So, God made it harder for his people to get their freedom? That's not very nice!
@@NomsynhoSo, God hardens his heart by showing him miracles, hardens his heart by demonstrating his power, hardens his heart by demanding he let the people go. God’s not hardening his heart literally by taking his free will away or by doing heart surgery or something like that; He’s hardening his heart by confronting wicked Pharaoh with light, and Pharaoh closes his eyes. This is what Jesus does in the Gospels when He shows His miracles to the Pharisees, and they reject Him. It hardens their hearts, but only by Him doing the very thing that would soften the heart of a person who’s open to God. edit, hope that makes sense for you guys
@@55alegria we don’t see this sort of single-cause thing where God just grabs someone’s heart and says, 'I’m going to make you reject me.' No, no, it’s like, 'You’re going to reject me, and as I show you more light, you’re going to reject me even more because you’re going to harden your heart. I’ll harden it by showing you more light.' That’s how I see it.
I was today years old when I learned that Pharaoh is captain Picard.
just a reminder. "And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go."-Exodus 4:21
Beautiful Bible quote!
could you imagine if Disney films had did a movie on King James
Oh! My Gosh!
the content he'd have to work with!
King James the 1st if im not mistaken.
@@priestessmikokikyo77 it blows my mind how you can read that god predestined the slaughter of all of those children and you see it as beautiful.
The correct translation is actually “strengthen”
So much for "free will". God made Ramses into his puppet so he could have an excuse to kill some kids and babies.
It's even more sad in the Bible. God literally made the pharaoh a cruel bastard then punished innocent Egyptians for it.
Exodus 4:21
21 And Yehováh said to Moses, “When you go back to Egypt, see that you do before Pharaoh all the miracles that I have put in your power. But I will harden his heart, so that he will not let the people go.
God made the pharaoh no more evil than he already was.
Notice that God didn’t harden the pharaoh’s heart untill the 6th plague, and the very next plague Pharaoh hardens his own heart.
In this way God was merely acting in accordance with the pharaoh’s will.
Let’s not kid ourselves he wouldn’t let God’s people go no matter what - he and his ancestors were abusing God’s nation and the Egyptians were complicit in that.
he is a great writer thats for sure
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It literally says he harden the pharaoh's heart before Moses asked for his people to be set free. The pharaoh had no choice in the matter.
It's even brought up in the New testament how God was a prick and cruel to the Egyptians.
@he had the choice - see all the verses when he did harden his heart on his own.
Knowledge of the outcome does not negate free will.
Also do you know the reason Moses was sent to the israelites - to free his people who suffered under egyptians ? They literally killed their babies
@@atenek9243 7:3 literally says "But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and though I multiply my signs and wonders in Egypt, he will not listen to you." before any of the plagues happened.
Yes, sometimes he did harden his own heart, but other times it was clear that his heart hardening was from an external source. A lot of references actually show that no one hardened the Pharaoh's heart but rather that it was already hardened or through other people's actions (7:22, 8:16), and was predisposed to act a certain way rather than an active choice.
Whenever the Pharaoh would have hardened his heart already (8:15, 8:32), God didn't do anything to soften it. Whenever the Pharaoh wouldn't have hardened his heart, God hardened his heart for him (7:13, 9:12). That doesn't sound like he had much of a choice; it sounds like God wanted it to go a certain way, and it did.
0:08 You think showing a religious movie at school is a common thing? Maybe, but I grew up in an extremely religious area, and my public school never showed us anything like this, just an endless stream of Land Before Time movies
That's interesting actually, I was shown this movie in both my primary and secondary school and they were quite religious
Oh, we where shown this in 3rd or 4th grade when we where learning about Judaism in school. Not sure if your school had anything similar but we had a class Called RLE (religion, lifestyle and ethics(they later changed it to KRLE where the k was from Christianity))
@@heroic_antagonist759 I have.... just *so* many questions for the people who decided that Christianity starts with a K.
@@sylvirgiomanach1491 to be fair it's Called "Kristendom" in Norwegian 🤷🏻
Cool thing about this (I think it happened at the end of Genesis/ the beginning of Exodus) is that when God sent the 10 plagues He was fighting against 10 gods of Egypt. God was showing Egypt who the one true living God is so much so that some of the Egyptians converted after everything that happened.
Yep
9:30 One little thing about snakes in ancient Egyptian culture.......Snakes were seen as a symbol of royalty and divinity. So, with that *one* subtle move......taking his staff, holding it out and using God's powers to turn it into a snake, not only did Moses symbolically establish God's divinity and authority, he also showed that, due to his ability and authority to use God's power, he was a messenger and servant of God, placing *him* in a place of high authority using Egypt's culture and religious beliefs.......It makes it *a lot* less confusing, knowing that......and also shows that right off the bat, he wasn't playing around! He gave the Egyptians a *strong* sign about who, and what he was......And, they ignored it........
Furthermore, his snake killing and eating the snakes conjured by the priests was another sign or symbol of his authority. By so doing, he symbolically showed that the authority of their gods, and the authority of their priests and the Pharaoh was lesser to his and God's, if not false.
Ultimately it was a very sad ending for the two brothers. Rameses lost his son, his brother, and his people suffered all because he was mislead by some priests with smoke and mirrors while Moses ended up being tormented by the horrors inflicted on the egyptians then wandered the desert for the rest of his life.
If you ever put "this is a case of the big treason" on a shirt I'll have to buy one
I always thought it was loykey awful that he killed the grandchild of the woman who adopted him. Way to show gratitude.
He probably could have played buddy buddy with his brother for a year and then just told Ramses it hurt him to see his people treated so badly, and he would have changed things willingly.
That's what makes it so tragic: Moses was mostly forced into a role he didn't want, but he went through with it because he knew it wasn't worth it to keep letting his people suffer, especially after discovering his heritage and what the previous pharaoh did to babies like him. It was eating him inside though because he had to cause more suffering to those he still cared about, and even though he got what he wanted, it had to come at the cost of one more innocent soul. That's why he broke down in tears after leaving Ramses, because he wanted things to play out differently just as much as Ramses did
@@HaleyStark. God hardened his heart
I still wanna see Beauty and the Beast from Gaston's POV
@@queenratiganthefirst5442 Every thing he did was because he wanted the one girl who said no when he had a harem following him around. Even from his perspective, it would be a tall order to spin that into anything positive sounding. I REALLY look forward to him taking on that challenge.
The one time a Sub 5 Man/Orc managed to steal a girl from Chad.
Thank you! After a rewatch of Prince of Egypt a few years ago, I started to really feel for Ramses! It was awkward because I'm pretty religious. Lol. It's important to remember that this is a theatrical retelling of the Moses story, but it also challenges one's own notions about it. When you grow up with the story, you just imagine Ramses as a purely evil man, but the more you think about it, you remember that he was just a human guy who made bad decisions. To paraphrase Solzhenytsen, the boundaries of evil lie in each person's heart, and it's up to them whether they cross that line.
Great video!!
Oddly enough, I’m not religious but this movie is my comfort movie. I’ve watched it several times over the years since 5th grade and now I’m 25.
I still think because Rameses was accused by his father of destroying the dynasty, it really solidified into Rameses’ actions later on. He does repeat, “I will not be the WEAK LINK,” mirroring when Seti told him “but one weak link can break the chain of a mighty dynasty.” And then his actions led him to not only lose what his father was so set on building, but also made him lose his son and once again, his brother. I think Rameses is such a sad character.
Rameses already had everything he wanted as Pharaoh. His own insecurity of looking weak made him not want to free the slaves. Moses made Rameses feel insecure by telling him God’s commander and not him.
Rameses is an insecure person who could have been humble, but instead became prideful. Moses is a confident person who could have been prideful, but instead became humble.
I love the Quetzalcoatl and Xolotl reference 😂😂 everytime I hear Ramses say he’s the Morning and evening star I think of Quetzalcoatl and Vice-Versa
Oh shit! Did not expect this! Awesome! Well done!
Still waiting for Twilight from Charlie's POV. Or Mortal Kombat 1995 & Annihilation from Shao Khan's
Honestly this could be kind of funny
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fun fact it is now believed that it wasn't slaves building the pyramids but generation of stone masons
It was slaves
Brilliant as always. Thanks for the many good laughs in a hard time.
The funny thing is, archeologists, Egyptologists, and historians are pretty well in agreement that the story in Exodus isn’t actually true. There’s no evidence for the ancient Israelites being in or coming from Egypt, and plenty of evidence for them having originated in ancient Canaan.
Same with the flood and how they claim the earth is 6000 years old. We have plethora of evidence that debunks that nonsense.
PRAISE YOU BROTHER!
Someone else besides me that knows factual reality!
…no one said they “came from” Egypt?
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The Israelites say they came from Egypt...
So idk who u been talking too...
Fun fact! A key point in the biblical Exodus narrative is the fact that the Israelites only end up in Egypt because of famine in Canaan. Joseph, an Israelite before the time of Moses, gets booted from his family and eventually, through a convoluted series of events, winds up advisor to one of the Pharaohs. Canaan gets hit with a famine and Joseph's family seeks out food in Egypt, which has food because Joseph gave the Pharaoh good advice, are reconciled with Joseph and settle down in Egypt. Eventually, Joseph dies as does the Pharaoh, and the Pharaoh's successor gets scared that Joseph's decedents might pose a threat to him and he enslaves them. Thus, the situation at the beginning of Exodus.
its funny how often people disconnect found in a river moses and SPLITTING THE RED SEA moses
Being so honest, when I rewatched this movie as a agnostic teen I always sort of empathized with Ramases.
1:52 Quick pause to say- Every time I saw this movie as a child, I wanted to eat that flower she handed to her son. I still wonder what that flower would taste/feel like-
I remember seeing this as a kid and I just showed my 10 year old brother it haha he loved it
YES! RUclips didn't copyright strike your video😃
Miriam the girl actually goes up to the daughter of Pharoh, not queen, to ask if she want a baby siter which was their own family, and she agrees so Moses still grows up with his own family and they actually get paid for their labor.
This entire course of this story actually takes 80 years, 40 years as Egyptians then 40 years in Midian before called by God, but you wouldn't know just by watching this movie.
Nah they took some liberties that's why I added the line about him being really early
@@Nomsynho that was funny
It's not a children's film just because it's animated
Your comedy style is epic, your delivery great. I appreciate your closer, it was an excellent reminder to separate the man from the medium. Thanks for your creative endeavours.
Ramses II wasn’t the first born child of Seti I. He was technically the middle child.
The rule from god was the first born child would die, and only a few women would be spared.
Given that information, God therefore can’t break his own rule to kill Ramses, because he’s the middle child.
Not much is known about his older sister Tia
She married another guy named Tia which is pretty funny and rare for an Egyptian princess.
As always, your content is amazing!
Well to be fair the priests made two sticks-snakes so I think it’s right to assume that Ra is at least twice as strong as their god. At the very least in the snakes-out-of-sticks part of the business
Yeah, but then that snake ate both of the other snakes so what does that say about power
That's stupid logic. I'm disappointed in that logic. And they didn't even actually do that.
@@tripleg2513very true, I reckon it was, however, a slightly thicker stick.
Imagine how powerful you could be if you worshipped the sticks-into-snakes god!!! 🤩
Especially since, as we see in the movie, the size of the snake is related to the size of the stick. Technically, a downed tree could be seen as a stick. Or a teeny tiny twig. So many options! So much variety!
By the power of Ra! 🥳💖
Go ahead and worship the Sticks Into Snakes god. No one is stopping you!
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It's crazy that the pharaoh didn't kill mosses despite doing all this to his people and son, just because mosses himself was a brother/best friend growing up
WELL, WELL... LOOKS LIKE MY FAVORITE INTERNET DOPAMINE DEALER IS BACK WITH THE GOOD GOOD
Thank you for the exceptional background Zelda music and also for shouting out the plagues as going unreasonably hard. The plagues was my top song on Spotify last year
"This god fellow doesn't seem to be very consistent" 😂
G-d created the snakes
Ive read somewhere those were workers who did the pyramids, not tortured hardly punished slaves... but will we ever know??
15:53 I thought Ramses' older brother died in a boating accident, thus he was a popular pick for the biblical Pharoah in the first place
Seti was also a violation for paying down that "weak link" trauma
10:04, OK, but Moses's snake eating the other two at least foreshadows that the Hebrew God is more powerful than the Egyptian ones.
Naw
I absolutely love your videos. Thank you for a hilarious and cute take on this
Can you please do "Joseph king of dreams" it's in the same style Prince of Egypt and no one ever talks about it
^•^ thanks
I'd love to, got a huge list to work through but yeah
I feel so sorry for that movie...
It is REALLY GOOD, just ended up getting so overshadowed by Prince Of Egypt that everyone forgets how amazing it is.
I love that you did this movie!
Dr Ivo Robotnik perspective in the live action sonic the hedgehog movie.
It was the Pharaoh's daughter, so likely not Rameses mom.
Observant Jew here, I love this video. Amazing jokes, especially the Rick and Morty reference
Took me more than half the video duration to notice the Gerudo theme playing in the background.
I think you should do a video on wreck it Ralph from king candy’s perspective
I love your ending to this. Not caring about religion, while caring about character, is absolutely wonderful of you my friend.
And even worse, according to the source material Mozes' God literally HARDENED Ramses' heart. He would've let them go far sooner, only he was prevented in doing so!
Luckily evidence suggests that this particular story never actually happened, so that's a consolation.
Actually, the correct translation is “strengthened his heart”, the first few times it was Pharaoh himself who strengthened his own heart and its very likely that Ramses wasn’t actually the Pharaoh of the Exodus
Another way to say it is " Strengthen one's resolve" in Hebrew. Many ways for God to strengthen Pharaoh's resolve to keep rebelling against him, but it was all Pharaoh's choice
I love how atheists know everything about something they don't believe in.
Playing Gerudo Valley during the Plagues segment made me chuckle 😄
Hey, it was pretty clear to me no offense was meant, all jokes in good fun. Here’s to a good 2025 🥰✝
I watched this during the New Year. More fun than watching the ball drop.
I watched this while I was on the plane
If anyone likes The Plagues song from Prince of Egypt, you should look up the cover by Elsie Lovelock
The song goes hard, but she makes it at leat twice as hard and having a woman sing it is neat
They can ride Chariots like no one else's business😂😂😂😂😂
Honestly if I was Rameses near the end, I'd be so pissed off that I'd just say to Moses "Fine they can be free, but you have to die in exchange."
Ur gonna try to kill the guy that attacked you with his pet stick and made all your water red and dirty?
@@maxstrike3022 No need to try, he'd sit there and take it if he wants them free that bad. And there's no way his god would be fine with genociding babies but not letting a single man die to get what he wants.
@someonerandom9939 oh buddy I'm gonna need you to read the entirty of Genesis, because you must've forgotten a story or two about that
That’s more or less what he decides in The Ten Commandments (1956)
He's freaking out about something 😂
That movie was so insanely well made.
You know what's crazy? It was the first movie by DreamWorks animation
@@NomsynhoThough they ended up releasing Antz first
There's always been a quite popular theory that the story of Moses was accidentally mis-attributed to Ramses and instead was the result of the volcano in Santorini 500 miles north that wiped out the Minoans. It would provide a "chain of events" similar to the plagues (starting from Cinnabar-laced ash that would have turned the Nile red,) and would have the added benefit of creating erratic enough weather that it could generate winds strong enough to create a "standing wave" effect in the "Sea of Reeds" instead of the Red Sea, an oft-cited mistranslated of the original text, similar to a "parting" that would have subsided when the winds shifted during the night/day cycle.
To be fair moses only asked ramses to free the hebrew slaves, there were plenty of other kinds of slaves , btw the israelites continued using nonhebrew lifelong slaves after being freed ( the year of jubilee was only for israelites)
Musical logic tend to be:
Spoken- people in world can hear
sung- purely for the audience's sake, not heard by characters
I feel like this stands here too
02:03 Secret Technique; HOLLOW WICKER BASKET!
Your take on this is so depressing! Great video but when gerudo valley starts playing my brain shuts everything else out, it’s too much of a banger. Anyway thanks for this video, well done