I think this was the May 7th 1990 Carnegie Hall recital, which I was at. I've NEVER heard playing like it (and I've seen Horowitz, Richter, Gilels, Ashkenazy, Argerich and many more). This was mind blowing
@@alexyedidia It is quite inhuman playing. I'd never heard anything like it. I have the whole recital (which is utterly astonishing) if you'd like to hear it. I don't post on RUclips but am happy to upload it and email you a link if you'd like
The absolute best interpretation of this etude that we’ll ever hear (and this is Pogorelich live!!) Absolutely no holds barred, no prisoners taken performance, bravo Ivo!
Wohohoho, this is the Wildest of Jagds for sure. I am grateful for such an individual interpretation - not my favourite, as I feel a lot is lost with ignoring so many dynamic markings, BUT having access to wildly different intepretations of masterpieces like this is invaluable. It is so interesting to come across something as unconventional as this recording (as long as the technique and musicianship is there, which is certainly the case here, even if it does get away from him in certain sections a bit, due to the breakneck speed and manic intensity). Thank you for the upload! Pogorelich is a force of nature. :)
@@hyperactiveofficial8096Because he is artist and felt in a different way.He didn't change music but the dinamic,tempo and that's is something important for any good musician - to have own view of the piece!
@@hyperactiveofficial8096 honestly, since this music is based on very german hunting stories, it fits perfectly. It is unconventional but definitely an acceptable approach, even if he ignored the composers markings. This is actually the wildest rendition of the wild I have ever heard and that despite of the fact he is playing extremely stricly rythmically here. You won't hear that anywhere else and that makes this recording so unbelieveably special, even if many will critizise Pogolerich for that.
@@CarloGinexchopin -Preludes for biginners lover-music in first with Alfred Cortot , it-s not my choice Alfred Brendei and Professional critics ( FM ) give Alfred Cortot first ; recording Cortot 1933 , what about Pogo in 2113 ; you are not pianist or Teacher to give advices .
You discover a pianist known by a,mediatic fact in 2023 ? without Argerich in the middle of hundreds and hundreds pianists would he have a reputatupn ? it's necessary to known the scandal in international competition of Pogo with the intervention of Argerich in the,middle of it to understand the world of the piano
Who tells you I'm not a pianist (I'm a 15 years old boy using my mother's account). I've been studying piano for 5 years and I think I could at least give an adivice no?
I'm surprised he didn't slow down for the quieter moments and let us appreciate Lizst's own manic intensity. We'll played but will not be my favorite interpretation of this piece.
@@Isa-tn7ex Yeah, I'd be kind of surprised if Liszt ever played his pieces exactly according to how he wrote them (dynamics, tempo, etc.). I believe he often improvised during his performances and was known to be a pretty liberal interpreter of others' works as well.
I played this Transcendental Etude. I am a bit of a Liszt scholar myself. This piece is symphonic in itself - you can transcribe this for orchestra. Now the final 7 measures - how would I play them? The first 4 measures should be held back in "vivace", then do an accelerando to the 4th measure on that Vii07 chord. Molto rubato on the Viio7 chords on measures 5 and 6. On the Ab-G-Gb-F notes in measure 6 - I would do a "molto sostenuto" here to set up the final "coup de grace" C chord in low register in both hands. The final chord aforementioned would be done "ffff" for obvious reasons - this is the dramatic ending of that concert showpiece!
Wow, the first time i prefer the s.139 version to the s.137 version, pogolerich makes the revised versions sound more better than the old ones! (I liked the s.137 more compared to this originally)
I always wondered that too. From what I found online, the 2nd and 3rd measures are slightly different. The highest octaves are replaced with a G instead of a Bb and B to account for the 85-key pianos back then. Cool to know after so long lol :)
@@Michachel Not sure but I think the highest note of some pianos back then was a G. As for the extra 1st measure, some say it might just be easier to start reading from there. (Though, I don't sightread much to confirm yet lol)
Check It out others interpreters like Kissin. Pogorelich It a little slower than average but with more volume and more fortissimo that make the listener think that he plays faster
Pogorelic producing some fire recordings back in 1851
😂
@pianotechsupport true
I think this was the May 7th 1990 Carnegie Hall recital, which I was at. I've NEVER heard playing like it (and I've seen Horowitz, Richter, Gilels, Ashkenazy, Argerich and many more). This was mind blowing
This recording is unbelievable. Must have been amazing to hear it live
@@alexyedidia It is quite inhuman playing. I'd never heard anything like it. I have the whole recital (which is utterly astonishing) if you'd like to hear it. I don't post on RUclips but am happy to upload it and email you a link if you'd like
@@petergolding5733 Wow, absolutely! Is it not already here on youtube? If not, I would love if you did that. Thanks very much 👍🏻 cheers
@@alexyedidia It's not here and I don't think many people have it (as I recorded it!!). It's amazing. Happy to email it to you
@@alexyedidia I've emailed you
he seriously gives no fucks about ripping through those quiet slower sections at blistering speed
My gosh. I've listened a lot to Pogorelich but I still get blown away by this recording
The absolute best interpretation of this etude that we’ll ever hear (and this is Pogorelich live!!) Absolutely no holds barred, no prisoners taken performance, bravo Ivo!
Wohohoho, this is the Wildest of Jagds for sure. I am grateful for such an individual interpretation - not my favourite, as I feel a lot is lost with ignoring so many dynamic markings, BUT having access to wildly different intepretations of masterpieces like this is invaluable. It is so interesting to come across something as unconventional as this recording (as long as the technique and musicianship is there, which is certainly the case here, even if it does get away from him in certain sections a bit, due to the breakneck speed and manic intensity). Thank you for the upload! Pogorelich is a force of nature. :)
This is not the most perfect performance, but you won't listen to another performance with the same heart.
Listen to Danill Trifonov playing this one
@@kokoszka8416danill his recording is perfect
@@Piano_improvisations ive never heard a recording better than any one of the tracks in that album
@@kokoszka8416listen Ivo but when he was little old
Also Boris Berezovsky
Crazy speed in the middle section holy shit i didnt think that was possible
4:12 Dumbledore Said Calmly
4:11 ah yes, p stands for "forte" (not complaining btw)
It's more likely to be ff
nah bro he butchered that part so bad
@@Michachel shut up loser
1:56 feels like a Beethoven symphony, it's crazy.
4:12 piano 🤣🤣
He played ff
@@techinoneminutehe 100% played more than ff
Pogo is great, but he does have a tendency to ignore composer's dynamic markings among other things 😅
@@hyperactiveofficial8096Because he is artist and felt in a different way.He didn't change music but the dinamic,tempo and that's is something important for any good musician - to have own view of the piece!
@@hyperactiveofficial8096 honestly, since this music is based on very german hunting stories, it fits perfectly. It is unconventional but definitely an acceptable approach, even if he ignored the composers markings. This is actually the wildest rendition of the wild I have ever heard and that despite of the fact he is playing extremely stricly rythmically here. You won't hear that anywhere else and that makes this recording so unbelieveably special, even if many will critizise Pogolerich for that.
Very nice discovery of this pianist, clear, lively, educational, magnificent. THANKS !
I think you should try to listen to his recording of chopin's preludes it won't dissapoint
@@CarloGinexchopin -Preludes for biginners lover-music in first with Alfred Cortot , it-s not my choice Alfred Brendei and Professional critics ( FM ) give Alfred Cortot first ; recording Cortot 1933 , what about Pogo in 2113 ; you are not pianist or Teacher to give advices .
You discover a pianist known by a,mediatic fact in 2023 ? without Argerich in the middle of hundreds and hundreds pianists would he have a reputatupn ? it's necessary to known the scandal in international competition of Pogo with the intervention of Argerich in the,middle of it to understand the world of the piano
Who tells you I'm not a pianist (I'm a 15 years old boy using my mother's account).
I've been studying piano for 5 years and I think I could at least give an adivice no?
So good aaaa, best interpretation ever. Finnaly some passion!
I'm afraid that wasn't "some" passion. It was about the top passion a human is able to produce. 😂
I'm surprised he didn't slow down for the quieter moments and let us appreciate Lizst's own manic intensity. We'll played but will not be my favorite interpretation of this piece.
Maybe he plays it at a modest speed but seriously it's so bold, clear and passionate.
a favorite, I love this recfording so much
How on earth?? .... Speechless..
IN-FUCKING-SANE
Although having read about Listz's style of playing I would say that's how he would play it.
It’s very Liszt-like, despite him breaking away from the notation, which is rather Lisztlike too, honestly-
@@Isa-tn7ex Yeah, I'd be kind of surprised if Liszt ever played his pieces exactly according to how he wrote them (dynamics, tempo, etc.). I believe he often improvised during his performances and was known to be a pretty liberal interpreter of others' works as well.
I played this Transcendental Etude. I am a bit of a Liszt scholar myself. This piece is symphonic in itself - you can transcribe this for orchestra.
Now the final 7 measures - how would I play them?
The first 4 measures should be held back in "vivace", then do an accelerando to the 4th measure on that Vii07 chord. Molto rubato on the Viio7 chords on measures 5 and 6. On the Ab-G-Gb-F notes in measure 6 - I would do a "molto sostenuto" here to set up the final "coup de grace" C chord in low register in both hands. The final chord aforementioned would be done "ffff" for obvious reasons - this is the dramatic ending of that concert showpiece!
Wow, the first time i prefer the s.139 version to the s.137 version, pogolerich makes the revised versions sound more better than the old ones! (I liked the s.137 more compared to this originally)
I can't imagine anyone playing this etude live
It's necessary to listen Cziffra-Clidat -Howard for understand the true Lizst , all others after !
Okay shit 😮🤯🤯
WOW
Liszt was really insaneee‼️😵😱😬🤣
Is it just me or there is sound of him breathing?
Yeah i think youre right
why is the ossia part at 4:08 just the exact same thing
I always wondered that too. From what I found online, the 2nd and 3rd measures are slightly different. The highest octaves are replaced with a G instead of a Bb and B to account for the 85-key pianos back then. Cool to know after so long lol :)
@@acsaha8304damn I looked at it like 10 times and didn’t catch that. Also do you have any idea why he did that?
@@Michachel Not sure but I think the highest note of some pianos back then was a G. As for the extra 1st measure, some say it might just be easier to start reading from there. (Though, I don't sightread much to confirm yet lol)
Honestly, Pogorelich makes Liszt sound like Boulez sometimes... Jeez!
SUPREME
*Ah...Pogorelich in his prime!*
Wow, so powerfull sound! Pure machine-gun
It's Franz
Stunning for some ? where is the interpretation ? frankly it's a piano TGV a bit like the train ^^ (and yet I love Pogorelitch)
Amazing!! He is thousands times better from Richter,,Askhenazy ,Horowits.....
A bit to fast
i listened to this first and i think others are too slow now(but its still very good), theirs are more beautiful but this is exciting.
Check It out others interpreters like Kissin. Pogorelich It a little slower than average but with more volume and more fortissimo that make the listener think that he plays faster
pfff
I don't think a piece called "wild hunt" or "feral chase" should be played any slower
This was played way too quickly . As a result, the phrasing and melody line suffered.
????Have u listened to Kissin? Hes playing slower than him
You have no idea what you're talking about. This is actually played slightly slower than the tempo marking that Liszt wrote.
He's probably talking about the middle part@@TheAluvisify