As a cardiac nurse with two sons who are concerned about testosterone listened to this with great intent. I absolutely love Dr Lyon’s content she’s amazing. The whole discussion was super informative. The only concern I had was when Dr Lyon asked him about how a physician can deal with a request for oral testosterone. Unfortunately he launched straight into how to get it and prescribe it. If only they covered more about that crucial point in a consultation. First find out why the patient wants it, what may be the underlying issues, then testing and also natural ways to potentially improve testosterone: weight, activity levels, muscle mass, train legs, explain the relationship between cholesterol and testosterone, sleep better especially REM, supplement with zinc etc. and many more ways to boost testosterone. Then retest and discuss whether a lifetime supplementation is right. Otherwise a great podcast I would like a whole podcast on women and testosterone please Dr Lyon! Thank you so much for sharing such amazing work.
She has discussed all of these things in her book and in podcasts. I would be nice to add here I suppose since someone may not have heard all of her discussions on this topic and just fell off a turnip truck.
I'm on both a GLP-1 and the testosterone pellets. I've lost 37 pounds and have 10 more to go. I just got my first round of pellets two weeks ago. I've very excited to see what happens!
The “normal” lab levels are decreased so that less people qualify for testosterone so that insurance doesn’t have to cover it so that they can make / save money. I am a female 50 +. My pcp will not test my testosterone level because “ insurance won’t cover it” I said I will pay for it cash and he said no because we can’t prescribe u testosterone if u are def
Do you have a Cash Clinical lab near you? Or some type of cash pay lab. These labs will let you go in and order any blood test they offer (which is most everything). Their prices are great as they do their own in house testing so it keeps costs down. I tested mine before going for my yearly ob check. My level was 28 and she was all for it and I’m now using a gel. Also, there are now many ways to use an online service to obtain hormone replacement if you can afford to do so.
Check out discount labs they even run a 15% off at sign. You pay a small $6 or $8 drs fee for the blood work script. They work with Quest that I know of snd maybe other companies but you would have research.
You don’t have to have an order to obtain labs. I would get your hormones done like progesterone, estradiol, testosterone and free testosterone. Free testosterone is important in our bodies, as it is what is available for our body to use. If it’s low we will be symptomatic and I would look for an MD that is more Integrative. They look more at the whole body VS an Allopathic MD.
Surely before we inject, we should, on an individual basis, scrutinize the following: circadian cycle: how much time we spend indoors, our sedentary lifestyle, being under-muscled, not eating enough protein, avoiding stress, spending too much time in front of a screen, too much time under artificial light, eating food-like substances, the list is potentially endless.
If oral T with circadian cycle maintains fertility and testosterone size, wouldn’t we expect the SAME outcome from a daily (once per day) application of topical scrotal cream?
I would love for Dr. Lyon to have on Dr. Felice Gersh. I have been listening her for quite awhile with my wife going to perimenopause. I like her phrase "human indentical" hormones more than I like the bioidentical line.
I'm not 100% against oral, but I have reservations. Truth is, a slim pin in the delt is "money" and if One doesn't have the sack for that, they shouldn't be on TRT. I do find it interesting however where the source of IM hormones come from. Things we know not to eat or eat much of, especially the main source, but when administered directly, it's fantastic. Odd isn't it?
These formulations don’t come to market without Pharma. We wouldn’t have GLP-1s and better versions without pharmaceuticals. Everything concerning pharmaceuticals isnt evil. I could name quite a few examples if you need me to but see the forest through the trees. There was some good info in here.
This is one of the worst episodes ( medically) I’ve watched the first 30 minutes and found no real info . It is biased and sponsored by the company who invented the drug?! That’s really bad
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As a cardiac nurse with two sons who are concerned about testosterone listened to this with great intent. I absolutely love Dr Lyon’s content she’s amazing. The whole discussion was super informative. The only concern I had was when Dr Lyon asked him about how a physician can deal with a request for oral testosterone. Unfortunately he launched straight into how to get it and prescribe it. If only they covered more about that crucial point in a consultation. First find out why the patient wants it, what may be the underlying issues, then testing and also natural ways to potentially improve testosterone: weight, activity levels, muscle mass, train legs, explain the relationship between cholesterol and testosterone, sleep better especially REM, supplement with zinc etc. and many more ways to boost testosterone. Then retest and discuss whether a lifetime supplementation is right. Otherwise a great podcast I would like a whole podcast on women and testosterone please Dr Lyon! Thank you so much for sharing such amazing work.
She has discussed all of these things in her book and in podcasts. I would be nice to add here I suppose since someone may not have heard all of her discussions on this topic and just fell off a turnip truck.
Agree with all of the above talking points!!
How can I best advocate for testosterone for women?
I'm on both a GLP-1 and the testosterone pellets. I've lost 37 pounds and have 10 more to go. I just got my first round of pellets two weeks ago. I've very excited to see what happens!
Is there a report I can get???
The “normal” lab levels are decreased so that less people qualify for testosterone so that insurance doesn’t have to cover it so that they can make / save money. I am a female 50 +. My pcp will not test my testosterone level because “ insurance won’t cover it” I said I will pay for it cash and he said no because we can’t prescribe u testosterone if u are def
Do you have a Cash Clinical lab near you? Or some type of cash pay lab. These labs will let you go in and order any blood test they offer (which is most everything). Their prices are great as they do their own in house testing so it keeps costs down. I tested mine before going for my yearly ob check. My level was 28 and she was all for it and I’m now using a gel. Also, there are now many ways to use an online service to obtain hormone replacement if you can afford to do so.
@ thank you I will check that out
Check out discount labs they even run a 15% off at sign. You pay a small $6 or $8 drs fee for the blood work script.
They work with Quest that I know of snd maybe other companies but you would have research.
You don’t have to have an order to obtain labs. I would get your hormones done like progesterone, estradiol, testosterone and free testosterone. Free testosterone is important in our bodies, as it is what is available for our body to use. If it’s low we will be symptomatic and I would look for an MD that is more Integrative. They look more at the whole body VS an Allopathic MD.
I can't wait for this to be available for women!!!!
I'm curious if either of them have studied any herbal therapy, ( cistanche, tunghot ali ect)?
Surely before we inject, we should, on an individual basis, scrutinize the following: circadian cycle: how much time we spend indoors, our sedentary lifestyle, being under-muscled, not eating enough protein, avoiding stress, spending too much time in front of a screen, too much time under artificial light, eating food-like substances, the list is potentially endless.
If oral T with circadian cycle maintains fertility and testosterone size, wouldn’t we expect the SAME outcome from a daily (once per day) application of topical scrotal cream?
It would be nice if you could talk about Bio-identical hormones and about women who have had hysterectomy’s.
I would love for Dr. Lyon to have on Dr. Felice Gersh. I have been listening her for quite awhile with my wife going to perimenopause. I like her phrase "human indentical" hormones more than I like the bioidentical line.
41 minutes in and no mention of compound transcrotal cream!
They get to it eventually. They don't spend a ton of time on it.
Get RFK Jr on your podcast !
I'm not 100% against oral, but I have reservations. Truth is, a slim pin in the delt is "money" and if One doesn't have the sack for that, they shouldn't be on TRT. I do find it interesting however where the source of IM hormones come from. Things we know not to eat or eat much of, especially the main source, but when administered directly, it's fantastic. Odd isn't it?
I love oral
How do bring my primitve Dr (endocrinologist) up to date... no heart concerns!!??
Hey can we please see a guest NOT working in pharma to discuss testosterone, please!!!!!!!😊
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This 💯
These formulations don’t come to market without Pharma. We wouldn’t have GLP-1s and better versions without pharmaceuticals. Everything concerning pharmaceuticals isnt evil. I could name quite a few examples if you need me to but see the forest through the trees. There was some good info in here.
What's the product name!!?? Can't understand it ... too fast!!
it's in the description but its called Kyzatrex
This is one of the worst episodes ( medically) I’ve watched the first 30 minutes and found no real info . It is biased and sponsored by the company who invented the drug?!
That’s really bad
Let me introduce new perspectives about testosterone.
USA doesn’t want another revolution 😂