Fixing a Technics SL-1200Mk2 (How To Unstick It)

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    Although the Technics SL-1200Mk2 turntble is one of the best engineered and built turntables in history, it does have one significant vulnerability that often arises after a few decades of ownership. Watch and learn!
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  • @reneneron2971
    @reneneron2971 2 года назад +25

    Excellent work. Two suggestions: 1) use an old toothbrush to clean the dried up grease from the brass threads rather than a pick or screwdriver,. This will avoid damaging the threads, you, or something else if you slip. Second, WD-40 will leave a film (it contains fish oil). I would consider denatured alcohol for cleaning, which will evaporate completely to remove the dried up grease (it is safe enough for tape heads, so you likely have some around anyway.

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s 2 года назад +1

      i've always used wd-40 to clean electrical contacts , it works and keeps it in top condition , regards

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s Год назад

      but first i used to buy Deoxit ,but the wd-40 was cheaper

  • @wolfman007zz
    @wolfman007zz 2 года назад +27

    You’re destined to repeat the seizing failure by using white lithium grease. Use synthetic silicone grease. I used it in 1978 on my Hitachi HT-460 tonearm height adjuster. To this day, it is smooth and turns easily! Time tested and proven!

    • @octymocty132
      @octymocty132 2 года назад

      Could you also use ceramic grease or is it to harsh

    • @wolfman007zz
      @wolfman007zz 2 года назад

      @@octymocty132 synthetic grease is cheap and has proven its worth over time. Ceramic grease? How long has it been around? Do you have an example of its stability over 40 years?

    • @plantificationpodcast
      @plantificationpodcast Год назад

      Thanks Wolfman. About to dismember my 1200s and replace the diode number 89 or whatever. Don't really like the idea of flipping around my slider like that one video suggested.

    • @nolan5150yt
      @nolan5150yt Год назад

      Hello. What synthetic silicone grease do you use exactly? Thank you.

    • @jhirn2957
      @jhirn2957 8 месяцев назад

      Lithium is usually preferred for metal to metal but it can decay rubber and plastic. I’d go with a silicone in this case as well. PB blaster and WD-40 both make silicone sprays. Never guess when it comes to lubes. It still scares me people think WD-40 is a lube.

  • @peterstudley1804
    @peterstudley1804 2 года назад +8

    I've had similar problems in the past , if you're not totally confident about dismantling your sl1200/10 , here's what I do to free up a seized up VTA I use a hairdryer with a slim nozzle to aim the heat to the seized area moving the hairdryer in and out so as not to over warm the plinth, whilst attempting to turn the VTA once it's warm you should start to feel a bit of movement. It always works for me , once free I lubricant the area with a watch oil which is very thin . Once completed give the VTA a turn once in a while. Hope this helps you.

  • @danb.9891
    @danb.9891 2 года назад +3

    Wow Thanks! I own a SL1210 MK5 which I was unaware of. When I finally get it out of the box and set it up, I'll verify this. I really enjoy your laid back/humorous style to your videos. Hopefully the channel continues to gain traction and you can continue making videos..👍

  • @jhirn2957
    @jhirn2957 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thx for this video. Gave me the confidence to turn my old MK2 over and do this repair. Got them in 95. They are on loan with a friend but will be reclaiming to get back into scratching.

  • @R-C.
    @R-C. 2 года назад +2

    Great to see some repair and maintenance content in these modern years. Thank you sir.

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  2 года назад

      You’re welcome. Thanks

  • @jackturtle131
    @jackturtle131 2 года назад +3

    Never to old to learn something new Thanks mate

  • @SakariKaripuro
    @SakariKaripuro 2 года назад +2

    Good stuff. Was just looking around the other day to learn how to unjam them. Saved for future reference :)

  • @arnottrogerscom
    @arnottrogerscom 2 года назад +6

    Thanks for the informative video. Given the large number of SL-1200's out there I am sure plenty of people will benefit from this. I certainly wish my Rega had a simple, accurate adjustment mechanism like this! While the correct VTA adjustment on the SL-1200 is - as you say - an important factor is getting the best sound, manufacturing errors in stylus installation can still be an issue. The tone arm can look right while the stylus is still not positioned correctly. Still, the adjustment you explain, as well as the repair you go over, should help a lot.

  • @GunterDierickx
    @GunterDierickx 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thx for this valuable information Sir, greetings from Belgium.

  • @rrtind
    @rrtind 4 месяца назад

    Brilliant video! Loving your work, thank you 👏👌🙏

  • @mickspencer4171
    @mickspencer4171 2 года назад +2

    Damn, ill have to go check mine now, great video.

  • @brainache555
    @brainache555 2 года назад +3

    loved this video :) nice job

  • @HarmonyHomeInspectionServices
    @HarmonyHomeInspectionServices 2 года назад +3

    Nice review. I was given my mom's Kenwood KD-5070, fully automatic, direct drive unit of which we owned since around 1977. I recently had it reconditioned and installed an Ortofon headshell with a Bronze cartridge & stylus. The top plinth is one of the early man-made countertop type solid surfaces with a mix of limestone particles, glass powder & unsaturated resin. I love the looks of it and it performs well. If you ever get your hands on one it would be fun to see your review.

    • @Blewis-Diarrheo
      @Blewis-Diarrheo 2 года назад

      If he wants to do a review like this, then I can refer him to the person at Ortofon in New York who would probably make a review loaner happen.

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s Год назад

      kenwood is my go to brand but because where i live no one sells kenwood i ended up buying more pioneer and technics ,also Sony but never a good brand as the others

  • @JD-lk7im
    @JD-lk7im 2 года назад +1

    Good job well done and worth pointing out.. I enjoyed this a lot. Thanks Dave. 👍
    John.

  • @russellswanborough6089
    @russellswanborough6089 2 года назад +3

    I had the same problem. I put light lubricating oil around the top of the threaded portion and left it for two weeks. Then I repeated for another two weeks. After the fourth week the threaded portion could turn and, after a few back-and-forths it has been fine ever since. No need to strip anything down.

    • @user-mi9bu9ld9p
      @user-mi9bu9ld9p 4 месяца назад

      Glad to hear this, was thinking I might try that approach first.

  • @statedace3
    @statedace3 2 года назад +1

    My SL-1700 MK2 has the same problem..and needs the tone arm return gear replaced so when the gear gives up the ghost then I'll tackle both issues at one time.still has the Acutec M320iii and sounds great.btw nice video.

  • @NR23derek
    @NR23derek 2 года назад

    Right, the last screw went into the last hole, nothing left over and it works! Thank you very much for that! I'll do my second deck maybe tomorrow. I had two issues, both tiny really. First you didn't mention there's a washer on that spindle with the circlip you have to take off. Of course it came off the spindle and I had no idea where it came from, but looking at your video you touch it when talking about the circlip. The other issue was that cable grip thing, it doesn't just come off when you take the two screws out, you have to remove the centre part to free the cable.
    But other than that, no problems! I have to say I am very impressed with the build quality, no wonder these decks survived rave DJ treatment! What a fantastic bit of kit. I've had my decks for 25 years and I always knew they were good, but I'd never seen inside before.

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  2 года назад +1

      Thanks. Those details got lost in the editing. Glad I could help, mostly.

  • @scratchback2001
    @scratchback2001 2 года назад +2

    As a DJ of 30 years, I love the original grey 1200 mk 2. I'm out of the game now but I bought a brand new 1200 for playback use only. I'm using an Ortofon Blue cartridge. All the cleaning tips I know VTA ANTI-SKATE etc. I even had brackets mounted to my wall rather than sit the deck on a table on the floor to prevent skipping and other problems. I have set the tonearm using a protractor and digital scales etc. This deck will be working long after I'm gone.

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s Год назад

      the ones i have will sure work a lot after i just vanish, also worked with two SL-1200MKII for 35 years but i sold them completelly working with two concordes and the original cartridges and stylus they came with but i could only get 500€ ,this in 2000, now they have value before was just a working turntable but built like a tank with great engines

  • @octymocty132
    @octymocty132 2 года назад

    Thank you for info aprecitaed this will help do a future proof
    I've recently decided to go back to my youth ( had numarks ) an grabbed a 1200 cheap of eb
    This was the second checke after first major the tone arm
    Just need a quiet place and no kids to help me brake it as I'll do a good job on me own buggering it up

  • @zoltanboros8963
    @zoltanboros8963 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for sharing this. I have the same issue. I put double mats under the record until now, but I'm going to fix it as you've shown.
    Anyway, it's crazy how much screws should be removed.

    • @russellswanborough6089
      @russellswanborough6089 2 года назад +2

      I had the same problem. I put light lubricating oil around the top of the threaded portion and left it for two weeks. Then I repeated for another two weeks. After the fourth week the threaded portion could turn and, after a few back-and-forths it has been fine ever since. No need to strip anything down.

    • @zoltanboros8963
      @zoltanboros8963 2 года назад

      @@russellswanborough6089 Thanks.

  • @plantificationpodcast
    @plantificationpodcast Год назад +1

    Great video, thanks. Now I need to fix the crazy tempo slider.

    • @plantificationpodcast
      @plantificationpodcast Год назад

      @@DG-ie5ip are you saying put the plus direction moving away? I saw that one too. Saw what diode ($.89) and some soldering which is easy. Thanks

  • @MAMP
    @MAMP Год назад +1

    Great video man. Good job good info.

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  Год назад

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @stlpnkfloyd4961
    @stlpnkfloyd4961 Год назад

    Great video! Thank you for the education. I have a different issue with my Mk2, and if you would take my question? I’ve been looking online for help for a couple of days, and can’t find any information regarding my plight.

  • @00wrongun
    @00wrongun 9 месяцев назад

    I had some technics mk5 back in the day, when I moved flat during transportation my record box fell on one, slightly damaged the cosmetics I was gutted but it still worked

  • @ocularcavity8412
    @ocularcavity8412 Год назад

    I noticed at 5:05 there is a lump/bulge on the plastic cover for the main board that is under the platter is that supposed to be there or is from the components under it getting hot? I have an SL1200 MKII and mine has that same lump should I be concerned?

  • @drewv1785
    @drewv1785 2 года назад

    I had a similar problem on a 1978 Technics SL-3200. Although this turntable does not have a VTA adjustment, the dried out grease problem affected the spring connected to the anti skate adjustment dial. The sticky grease in the middle of the spring had the effect of pinching the spring together, so when set at "1" it would pull on the arm too hard. I removed and cleaned the spring (and areas around it) with alcohol and electronics spray cleaner. Then I applied a small amount of lithium grease. Problem solved!

  • @mokujinsan9946
    @mokujinsan9946 2 года назад +1

    Hi mate. Pro DJ since 1984 this is a common problem with installed turntables in clubs for example. I only have one deck now a Japanese Mk3 with a much better modern power supply and the heavy transformer removed. Also every year add some proper oil to the bearing buy the Technics / Panasonic stuff. In the past I had a Townshend Rock, Linn Sondek, Manticore Mantra, Rega 3.

  • @peterstudley1804
    @peterstudley1804 2 года назад +1

    Great video, when you start tearing down the technics you really begin to see the quality of the components and just how much goes into one of these decks , you can see why the technics fan boys (and I'm one of them) rave about these players, having the sl1200 G , you really have to go along way to better the 1200s. Thanks again for your video.

    • @TheMaxx111
      @TheMaxx111 2 года назад

      The actual 1200G or the 1200GR? The 1200G is a work of art. I have yet to hear the G and really want to compare it to my good old 1200 mk 2s.

    • @peterstudley1804
      @peterstudley1804 2 года назад

      @@TheMaxx111 the mk 2 is really that good, the GR is the closest, although completely reworked internally, apart from the classic dust cover , the G is something else in everyway. It has a weight approaching 40LB the top plate is a 1cm thick milled aluminium, straight out of the box, it doesn't really need anything else doing to it it sounds terrific, I've been using nagaoka mp200 and ortofon 2m bronze, the biggest shock was putting on a AT3600L the bargain basement cart , it to sounds incredible, if you can get the chance to audition a G you would be impressed too 😀.

    • @TheMaxx111
      @TheMaxx111 2 года назад +1

      @@peterstudley1804 I am a 1200 fanboy too. I have 2 1200 mk 2s one with a Goldring 1042 and the other with a Hana SL.

    • @peterstudley1804
      @peterstudley1804 2 года назад

      @@TheMaxx111 you'd have to go a long way to better the MK2s 1979 to 2010 I believe, true classics, and still sounds incredible today, the Hana cart you use would be my choice too (Japanese) with my G model I swapped out the new platter mat for a RGS0010 from the MK2 as its 6mm as opposed to the 3mm stock mat 😀.

  • @MarcS4R
    @MarcS4R Год назад

    mine is sized, will have to do this as well. maybe on the weekend :))

  • @MAMP
    @MAMP Год назад +1

    I wonder if the ambient temp of the room makes a big difference. Dead of winter vs summer

  • @tomhill4003
    @tomhill4003 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great tutorial! The only thing I would have done differently is use silicone grease (commonly used by plumbers on valves). It never dries out. Also, putting weight on the tone arm while it was flipped over might not have been the best idea. Use blocks so that the tone arm doesn't get squished.

  • @howardwayneroberts93
    @howardwayneroberts93 2 года назад

    Please help...my sl1200 simplicity is traveling the material back to front,when I push the button to change travel,it pops out and continue to travel back to front

  • @bernhardadam4700
    @bernhardadam4700 Год назад

    Thanks - great Video. You should change the oil of the Tonearm lift because it lowers to slow. :-)

  • @lox_5017
    @lox_5017 2 года назад

    This is a great video! Thanks!!

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  2 года назад

      Thank you!

  • @Reasepilotte
    @Reasepilotte 2 года назад +2

    What I did was just another platter mat and that got the tone arm level with the platter

  • @NXcorsist
    @NXcorsist 3 месяца назад +2

    Technics sl-1200 is king, it is Just the best. Nothing comes close. Its mechanical, like a car, service it and it will last you a life time..

  • @djhaloeight
    @djhaloeight 2 года назад

    I’ve got a pair of MK2s purchased brand new in 2005. I’ve always used Ortofon Concorde cartridges with them, so there was never any reason to adjust the height. Nevertheless, I’ve been aware of the potential for the ring to seize up and get sticky. I’ve rotated my rings every few months to different heights to keep the mechanism freed up. They’re not buttery smooth to turn, but I don’t need a pair of channel locks to turn them either 😄

    • @AmbientWanderer
      @AmbientWanderer 2 года назад +1

      You should still adjust the height when using Concordes

  • @charlesmclean6719
    @charlesmclean6719 14 дней назад

    What's wrong with the turntable when it starts a little slow? I can barely put my hand on it with the slipmat and it completely stops.

  • @adampoll4977
    @adampoll4977 2 года назад +3

    That other heavy black molding you removed isn't metal but bulk molding compound - there to increase the plinth mass and even FURTHER reduce vibrations and resonances.
    The SL1200 is the epitome of "they don't make 'em like that anymore!"

    • @zukispur5493
      @zukispur5493 2 года назад

      Yes they do. Audio technica AT LP 1240. Badass turner

    • @adampoll4977
      @adampoll4977 2 года назад +1

      @@zukispur5493 open one up, you might change your mind. Not taking anything away from Audio Technica but it's made for a far cheaper cost than the old SL-1200. Most modern "audiophile" decks going for tens of thousands don't measure as well on fundamentals (rumble, wow and flutter etc) as a vintage SL.

    • @zukispur5493
      @zukispur5493 2 года назад

      @@adampoll4977 I don't use work turntables at home. I use my Garrard 401 with a sme tone arm. Proper. With my Sansui AU 717 amp which drives 4 1969 leek sandwich 600 speakers.

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s Год назад

      for sure

    • @martinleroy5350
      @martinleroy5350 6 месяцев назад

      so I should not remove it like he did?

  • @thimble288
    @thimble288 2 года назад +2

    Probably buying one soon. It will be nice to finally have a really good turntable

    • @zukispur5493
      @zukispur5493 2 года назад +1

      Get the audio technica AT LP 1240. MUCH BETTER TURNTABLE

    • @lifesjustanillusion246
      @lifesjustanillusion246 2 года назад

      @@zukispur5493 let's see it still spinning after 30 years.my technics 1210 is by far the best electrical purchase I've ever made.never missed a beat

    • @zukispur5493
      @zukispur5493 2 года назад +1

      @@lifesjustanillusion246 my Garrard 401 will still be playing. Them DJ turntables are just donkeys.

    • @Grimwriggler
      @Grimwriggler 2 года назад +1

      @@lifesjustanillusion246 i sold mine and stuck with Garrtard 301 and 401s by far the best turntables i have owned

    • @Grimwriggler
      @Grimwriggler 2 года назад

      @@zukispur5493 exactly horrible sounding turntables , cold, thin ,two dimentional junk

  • @DJShuffle07
    @DJShuffle07 2 года назад

    I want two pair of those so bad, and yes luckily I have the Rane Serato SL1, and all I have to do is buy the Serato controller vinyl time code and I'm all set 😎🔥🔥🔥

  • @RUfromthe40s
    @RUfromthe40s 2 года назад +2

    this were a surprise when apeared , i use them for a lot of years in a radio station and for 25 years i also had two but in my system in 76 i bought a SL-3310 that uses the same system , and later i bought a SL-1000mkII they were very good and still work today with perfection , the best thing they had was instant stop and start also when stoped the the turntable it self feels loose but when in the 80's and 90 the so called audiophiles said they were bad , now they are the best , only a problem to listen to music at home they don't have auto return, one arrives tired and puts a record when falling a sleep the record keeps rolling with the stylus on top, i bought two with original stylus and ortofon for djs for 500€ much newer than mine ,regards

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s Год назад

      @@DG-ie5ip i have a lot of turntables i bought all my life but the better sounding ones are two thorens one bought in 83 and other in 92 ,but i have one that worked in a radio station i started when younger ,that it was substituted by 72 technics SL-1200 but this thorens professional from 69/70 is a perfect working turntable all this years working with minor corrections due to it´s engine being thousands of hours used ,still with a clean and perfect sound ,the others are all technics or pioneer most of them direct-drive but have two pioneer turntables with such a perfect sound ,one from 72 other from 74 ,the 72 one using original cartridge and a substitution needle that i bought several in the 80´s, when tested against a new Pro-ject around 1.000€ cost with a 2M red ortofon cartridhge and needle was far from the quality of the 72 pioneer turntable,when measured the pioneer had incredible specifications and the Pro-ject being new was far from the specifications written on it´s manual

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s Год назад

      also there is a video here on youtube where they test a Po-ject against a full automatic turntable from technics sold from early 80´s to early 90´s

  • @rokagrooveradio8429
    @rokagrooveradio8429 Год назад

    Hi mate, my problem on my 1210 mk2 is you can twist the arm asin it must be the screw underneath the tonearm but how do i get to it, do i need to take the whole tonearm out from underneath? any help much appreciated thanks

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  Год назад

      Not sure I understand. If you join my Patreon, I will try to help you with your questions. www.patreon.com/myowndevices

  • @mikecampbell5856
    @mikecampbell5856 2 года назад

    I worked on office machines for over 39 years. Old dried grease was a real problem. Also, I had to remove and reinstall those stupid E clips nearly every day. The farthest I ever launched one was 27 feet. I carried many spares.

  • @jordan390a
    @jordan390a 6 месяцев назад

    I use 300k-500k weight Silicone Oil like is used in the damping mechanism to lubricate the arm height adjustments threads

  • @JodyM2
    @JodyM2 2 года назад +3

    I shared it with my Technics Group

  • @mattmoshercom
    @mattmoshercom 2 года назад +1

    The Technics SL-1200Mk2 turntable was originally made as a commercial audiophile table for professional broadcast use. It was not for DJs originally. This is why they are still around working like tanks as they were designed to do...

    • @peterstudley1804
      @peterstudley1804 2 года назад +1

      Yes you are right, I've heard Abbey Road studios in London uk has a technics sl1200 G on hand , that speaks volumes. 😀.

  • @QoraxAudio
    @QoraxAudio 2 года назад +3

    10:34 Looks like you've bought an Audio Technica AT-VM95 cartridge, I can tell from that white packaging piece... I've been buying way too many cartridges lol 😅
    11:00 Yes lithium grease is good for metals. But to others: don't use silicone grease, because that contains acids which corrode metals.
    14:45 Way easier is to get an acrylic VTA/Azimuth adjustment block, those can be had for just a few bucks on ebay. It's just a transparent block with a few parallel lines.

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for the tips. I don’t own a vm95. The one I show on the 1200 is a Shure V15 Type 3. I also own AT VM540ML and a 740ML.

  • @thisdj83
    @thisdj83 2 месяца назад

    For me, the locks are stuck. Anyone have any suggestions?

  • @RetroGameStream
    @RetroGameStream 2 года назад +2

    OoOoOo this is the turn table I use so I'm very interested to see what's up here

  • @newmenosity
    @newmenosity 2 года назад +1

    A very informative video. I have a new 1200GR and wanted to be sure that my tone arm was set parallel to the platter. It’s a little hard to see the marks on a tape measure given the angle of view and I didn’t like the idea of holding tape measure over the tone arm assembly while looking at the tape. I made a jig from a very small metal square from Home Depot and clipped a cut piece of white card stock to the square’s blade with a very small binder clip. I set the square on the platter at the front and back of the tonearm and could very easily eyeball the distance from the arm to the card and adjust the VTA. Safe and accurate.

  • @janinapalmer8368
    @janinapalmer8368 2 года назад +1

    Use degreaser and a brass wire brush .. cleans beautifully 😛..!

  • @1324390
    @1324390 2 года назад +1

    Some tone arms like SMEs have built-in height adjustment...

  • @djblack7079
    @djblack7079 2 года назад

    I learned that back in the 80s I had to go inside my turntable everything still works fine

  • @EddieJazzFan
    @EddieJazzFan 2 года назад

    One of the things that I always wondered, If the cartridge is level to the record through the use of shims, (but the tonearm is not) , will it sound as good as BOTH the tonearm and cartridge being level to the record?

    • @Blewis-Diarrheo
      @Blewis-Diarrheo 2 года назад +2

      Yes, but the cartridge being level to the record is not necessarily indicative of correct rake angle anyways. But I get the idea behind your question, and the answer is yes.

    • @Blewis-Diarrheo
      @Blewis-Diarrheo Год назад

      @@DG-ie5ip Sometimes it's important, but only when you get into exotic stylus shapes. If we're talking elliptical or spherical, it doesn't make any perceptible difference.

  • @dankolov1839
    @dankolov1839 2 года назад

    My Own Devices
    Hello, if my replace the T250mA fuse Slow Blow the with same fuse but middle blow time 20 ms,what will happen?Will the fuse work properly?

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  2 года назад +1

      Sorry, I’m not the guy for a question of that nature.

  • @bethansilley3777
    @bethansilley3777 2 года назад +1

    hi mate my tone arm height adjust is stuck and is 1mm off will this cause damage ? i know i need to take it apart and fix but will this cause any problems as it is now? cheers!

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  2 года назад +1

      One millimeter Isn’t too bad. Damage will not be such a problem, but it won’t be performing at its best.

    • @bethansilley3777
      @bethansilley3777 2 года назад

      @@MODAC nice one thanks

    • @russellswanborough6089
      @russellswanborough6089 2 года назад

      I had the same problem. I put light lubricating oil around the top of the threaded portion and left it for two weeks. Then I repeated for another two weeks. After the fourth week the threaded portion could turn and, after a few back-and-forths it has been fine ever since. No need to strip anything down.

  • @ValonHonor
    @ValonHonor 2 года назад

    Awesome video! Quick question have you or anyone had problems holding bpms using these SL-1200 with Phase? It’s driving me crazy and my guess is that they belts might need changed not certain but would like to know your thoughts.

    • @rallycorsa1600
      @rallycorsa1600 9 месяцев назад

      They are direct drive motors so there are no belts, The speed can be corrected using potentiometers on the circuit board

  • @michaelbyrne8860
    @michaelbyrne8860 2 года назад

    I bought one from Japan probably paid too much? $450.00 but it has a stuck VTA! But I'm gonna watch this video a few times before I get my courage up! I guess that's why this 1200 came with extra pads up top of platter? Poormans adjustment? What cartridge would you recommend? Thanks Byrne

    • @russellswanborough6089
      @russellswanborough6089 2 года назад +1

      I had the same problem. I put light lubricating oil around the top of the threaded portion and left it for two weeks. Then I repeated for another two weeks. After the fourth week the threaded portion could turn and, after a few back-and-forths it has been fine ever since. No need to strip anything down.

    • @michaelbyrne8860
      @michaelbyrne8860 2 года назад

      @@russellswanborough6089 thanks for the information! Light lubrication oil! Like 3M?

  • @danashay
    @danashay 2 года назад

    Fascinating. And thorough.
    Now I need another 'table.
    Very well done. Sold me!
    Why not use a form of anti-seize on the threads?

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  2 года назад

      Not sure what anti-seize is.

    • @NR23derek
      @NR23derek 2 года назад

      @@MODAC Penetrating Oil. It's a very thin oil used to unseize stuck threads.

  • @thrashwar
    @thrashwar 2 года назад +2

    Nice video. I had the same problem with mine and fixed it. However i used a toothbrush to clean the threads. One thing i wanted to mention tho is about the calibration when you put everything back together. Yes indeed the zero must be lined up with that red line BUT.. zero is not the point where we start screwing!! The right way to do it is to line up the mark on the tonearm with number one on the ring and then start screwing. When you reach the end...(and you cannot screw no more)...then UNscrew one full cirlce (or one and a half). It is normal when you see the ring going a little bit below zero..but it will stop exactly on six when you turn it the other way. Thank you

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  2 года назад

      Thanks for the tips.

  • @michaelbyrne8860
    @michaelbyrne8860 2 года назад

    Nice! What cartridge would recommend for the 1200?? Thanks Byrne

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  2 года назад +1

      Depends on your budget. Check out the VM series by Audio Technica.

    • @robinr5787
      @robinr5787 2 года назад +1

      Nagaoka mp110, often used.

  • @NateEll
    @NateEll 2 года назад +3

    Lighter fluid and a stiff tooth brush will work to clean up the helicoid quite well. I’d recommend using helicoid grease- the sort used when re-greasing a camera lens. I would not use a cotton swab as you will get some cotton fibers in the helicoid.

  • @forwardsdrawkcab
    @forwardsdrawkcab 2 года назад

    Mine is not stuck yet, but it takes quite a bit of force already.
    Hopefully i can get it going easier by adding some thin oil so i don't have to disasemble it.

    • @russellswanborough6089
      @russellswanborough6089 2 года назад +1

      I had the same problem. I put light lubricating oil around the top of the threaded portion and left it for two weeks. Then I repeated for another two weeks. After the fourth week the threaded portion could turn and, after a few back-and-forths it has been fine ever since. No need to strip anything down.

  • @wreignone
    @wreignone 2 года назад

    I got mine working, U just have to be careful though! Thats the tone arm assembly which is the main part of the turntable! U do not want it to get stuck, So, Every now and again, Adjust it! People who own these should be a little more patient and careful. They really are the best ever made

  • @Poppinwheeeeellllllieeeeez
    @Poppinwheeeeellllllieeeeez 2 года назад

    1300 better table for home use. Good video.

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  2 года назад +1

      I had a 1300. Besides the automatic feature, the 1200 is a much better turntable in every way.

  • @bwalsberg
    @bwalsberg 2 года назад +2

    Nice video production👍🏻 I have the SL-1300…..very happy with it, however it lacks this feature. I checked manual and it is not addressed there either. Tone arm appears level…..I will measure for fun😂
    Anyone else have a SL-1300 and know how to level the VTA?

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  2 года назад +1

      Thanks. I owned a 1300 recently. The simplest way is to find platter mats of different thicknesses. I should have mentioned that in the video.

  • @barthoogendijk1349
    @barthoogendijk1349 Месяц назад +1

    My lock button is stuck. I guess it is turned into the lock-position way too far. This way done by its previous owner.. How can I fix this?

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  Месяц назад

      You may have to open it up and get in there like I did.

  • @dittonworks
    @dittonworks 2 года назад +4

    I’ve had three pairs of SL1200/1210’s shamefully abused as DJ turntables.. boy will they put up with abuse.

    • @zukispur5493
      @zukispur5493 2 года назад +1

      Yep. They do stand for it don't they. Like a couple a good time girls enjoying what they do, earning

  • @cr4zyshotz211
    @cr4zyshotz211 7 месяцев назад

    Didn’t show what method u used to free up the ring so u can remove it

  • @len9518
    @len9518 2 года назад +1

    Agree that using SOFT toothbrush and alcohol to remove old grease would be best. Good job though.

  • @johnnytoobad7785
    @johnnytoobad7785 2 года назад

    The best cleaning/lubrication for this type of thread would be "contact cleaner" with a small toothbrush followed by Tri-Flo. Then apply a high-tech "grease" lubricant. Not sure if I would use lithium grease. I use "Super-lube" grease and "gun oil" lubricant on my Thornes table.

    • @nolan5150yt
      @nolan5150yt Год назад

      Hello. Which Superlube product do you use exactly? Thank you.

    • @johnnytoobad7785
      @johnnytoobad7785 Год назад

      @@nolan5150yt I use both the oil and the grease. Grease is #92003. Synthetic Oil is 51004. Both contain PTFE. I also use synthetic "gear oil" where the bearing meets the thrust plate on the turntable.

  • @QoraxAudio
    @QoraxAudio 2 года назад +1

    Another alternative to change VTA on a turntable without VTA adjustment is using a ticker or thinner mat.
    Cartridge shims increase the weight significantly, which can also be detrimental to the sound if the tonearm resonance frequency becomes too low because of that added weight.
    That's why mats are generally the preferred option.

    • @Blewis-Diarrheo
      @Blewis-Diarrheo 2 года назад

      Shims don't have significant weight - you'd have to have an awfully heavy shim to push your resonant frequency out of range, or you'd have to be a complete edge case where you're already below ideal frequency yet you're getting away with it. As far as altering VTA both with shims or with a mat, it's fun idea but when you get into the world of complex stylus shapes, you'll struggle to find a mat with the right height as altering the rake angle at the site of the stylus is not a subtle adjustment the way that it is when you have a VTA adjustment of any type on the back of the arm

  • @zukispur5493
    @zukispur5493 2 года назад

    Who's ever had the DTI take a pair of their 12s (and everything else) pirate radio days in the 80s. Dem man deh didnt play.

  • @Trojan0304
    @Trojan0304 Год назад

    Have a plastic VTA gauge to avoid marring surface of my 1600Mk2.

  • @s.t.e.r.e.o.
    @s.t.e.r.e.o. 2 года назад +1

    mine has been seized for years. Probably because I never adjusted luckily via is straight.

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  2 года назад +1

      Well, now you know how to fix it.

    • @peterstudley1804
      @peterstudley1804 2 года назад +1

      I've had the same, I didn't dismantle it , I freed it up using a hair dryer with a slim nozzle/ diffuser varing the heat, 10 minutes later the problem had gone.

    • @s.t.e.r.e.o.
      @s.t.e.r.e.o. 2 года назад +2

      @@peterstudley1804 Wow! That worked in like 3 min. Thanks for the rad tip

    • @russellswanborough6089
      @russellswanborough6089 2 года назад +1

      I had the same problem. I put light lubricating oil around the top of the threaded portion and left it for two weeks. Then I repeated for another two weeks. After the fourth week the threaded portion could turn and, after a few back-and-forths it has been fine ever since. No need to strip anything down.

  • @AlejandroLeon-lz5fu
    @AlejandroLeon-lz5fu 3 месяца назад +1

    Never put face down a SL-1200, you can damage the bearings and arm tube

  • @user-dh2te2cm2d
    @user-dh2te2cm2d 6 месяцев назад

    such an old unit needs elco replacement and resistor replacement and the vr regulator sucks

  • @sellsubz
    @sellsubz 2 года назад

    The tonearm is the big weakness of the 1200.

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  2 года назад

      Please elaborate

    • @Blewis-Diarrheo
      @Blewis-Diarrheo 2 года назад +3

      @@MODAC It's not the big weakness, this is just some piece of audio dogma that someone has read somewhere. It's adjustable, the bearing friction is decent for what it is, and there's never any slop there. For the price, the 1200 is a good performer.

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  2 года назад

      Agreed. That’s why I asked. They never specify the so-called “weakness”. Just nonsense. Thanks

    • @Blewis-Diarrheo
      @Blewis-Diarrheo 2 года назад +1

      @@MODAC Yep, the only thing anyone will ever cite is that a removable headshell is a point of resonance, and a one-piece arm has better rigidity. In the real world, the only thing that I see as a shortcoming of removable headshells is that there's some looseness in the fitting that could affect azimuth - but only if you have a very critical stylus shape and you are not paying attention enough to check it. Bottom line, people just love to appear intelligent in the process of poo-pooing others' gear.

  • @SaucyBegger25
    @SaucyBegger25 8 месяцев назад

    WD40.... boom.... done!

  • @arnekarlsen528
    @arnekarlsen528 2 года назад

    Ouch...DO NOT rest the turntable on the ARM (not even soft), add a firm support next to it....

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  2 года назад +1

      It’s fine. Thanks

  • @intotheblue50
    @intotheblue50 2 года назад +2

    You recommend the 1200, fine, compare it to your Linn, come on! You talk about vintage, do a comparison. I have subscribed and really like your vids and thumb them up., but it is time you gave your opinion on these decks.
    , so come on.

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  2 года назад +1

      Ok...Enjoy them both very much. Each has its pos' and negs. The Linn could be a bit overrated with all of the mythology that surrounds them, also quite pricey. The 1200 could be underrated as "just a DJ table", which it clearly is not. Incredible value for what get for only $300-500. Completely different design goals and approaches to engineering. Keeping both until I find something I like better.

  • @soundman2604
    @soundman2604 2 года назад

    if you would have turned it the right way, you wouldn't need to take it apart.

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  2 года назад +1

      Not true.

  • @timdiver53
    @timdiver53 2 года назад

    WASHER KIND OF LOCK THING = C-CLIP

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  2 года назад

      Yes, I know.

  • @adamlw7181
    @adamlw7181 Год назад

    hi there, this is a great video but I still have a problem. Do you have a suggestion of how to unstick the ring. When I try righty loosy it is really seized and i can not loosen it. Could it be cross threaded? I'm really stressed lol! undid all those screws but I knew I still wouldn't be able to do it. Cheers

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  Год назад

      Try heat.

    • @adamlw7181
      @adamlw7181 Год назад

      @@MODAC Hay thanks very much that method worked. I got the wifes (not mine) hairdryer out and after burning my self several times it slowly started to turn. It took me 5 hrs to do this change in the end as I kept messing it up and moving the zero lol. I appreciate the vid very much, helped me out a lot.

  • @adamlw7181
    @adamlw7181 Год назад

    Youre not supposed to use Lithium or copper based grease. What the correct stuff is high grade petroleum Jelly. Technics Tonearm Helicoid Grease is the correct name.

    • @MODAC
      @MODAC  Год назад +1

      Good to know. I just sold it, and own two more. Thanks.