how to adjust the height on a turntables tone-arm
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- This is a video showing you how to adjust the height on the tone arm of a turntable.
Please note that in the video I did this with a technics turntable but this can be done on any turntable that has a height adjustable tone arm and it the same procedure.
If you have a technics SL 1200 or 1210 MK2 turntable and the height adjustment mechanism is very stiff or is jammed up you might want to check out my other video How to service/repair/replace the height adjustment on a technics 1200/1210 MK 2 turntable the link for this video is below.
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This is the clearest explanation of tonearm height I have ever seen. Thank you.
Absolute brilliant thank you ! I have adhd and I was engaged for the whole video - the use of drawings is a great visual : very clear explanations of everything. I'm off to adjust ! Many thanks
Technics should award this guy a medal.
James you are so informative. I can't thank you enough for all the information and knowledge you've given me about my turntable, stuff that I had no idea about, that I for years never checked while playing my records. With all the crappy and cheap CD's they've been making over the years, squandering such a technological advancement and letting it go to pot, there's now a wonderful re emergence of records. Records that I still have tons of . Thanx again.You are spot on - and I love your accent.
Finally! Someone actually showing us a way to get the VTA fairly close! Not like other “detailed” explanations on how to set up a cartridge and then twirl the height adjustment a little before they move on.
Appreciate the clear explanation, I currently own an Audio Technica AT-LP120 and noticed that even in the zero height position my tonearm was not level. Luckily I was able to fix the issue by putting the stock mat below the cork mat I use and it raised the height just enough to be level, or as close as possible. Tested a few records and noticed less sibilance and even some records had less surface noise.
absolutely brilliant demonstration! I had just watched the other video on the antiskating setting and checked this one right after... You nailed it just like the other one! Thanks!!!
You are my source for technics 1200 info. Picked one up at a Pawn Shop for $20.00-"Twenty" and have been giving it a good cleaning and tuning. Your instructions
are simple and effective. Thank you.
I own 2 1200's and it's great to know how to take care and make the most of them. Thanks so much. All your videos have been extremely helpful and absolutely informative.
You just saved me a lot of money, I thought my tonearm was completely screwed and it turns out this was the problem, I had no idea height affects tracking so much. Thanks so much for doing these videos man.
I learned all these techniques from A-trak & Infamous back in the 90s but never knew the why behind it all. Thanks James!!
Thanks for your videos. I bought a pair of second hand 1210s a few months ago and they were stinking. The last owner never looked after them. Thanks to your videos I've now serviced then and adjusted the height, weight and anti skate to the correct settings. Thanks
wow im so glad i found these old vids. i took a brake from playing for a few yrs. got the bug again and just bought a pair of used m3ds. after watching your vids i am confident to work on them myself if needed. after adjusting height with concords i noticed at 0 one deck sits about 6 mm higher at needle from deck case compared to the other. so my next move will be to take apart and grease/re calibrate/repair like your other video. might just replace tone arms as well and upgrade rca with internal ground and be done with it in one swoop. floating test with anti skate test kicks both arms to clip at 3 but does not totally kick them to spindle at 0. none of it seems to effect playing with traktor in absolute mode but new parts are fairly cheap online. by the way i like your taste in early 2000 dnb. my favorite genre is techy dnb. big ups for your detail videos!
@TheUzimis Thank you!!!, I never really taught of my self as much of a genius, but I'm glad you like the videos.
I will try to get my stuff sorted and get some more videos up soon.
Thanks again for your comment and kind words.
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@FerreNL thank you, I'm glad you like the video, I always like to keep things relaxed when I do my videos, I like people to enjoy watching my videos not feel like they are on a forum and there are too many rules.
thanks for your comment and your kind words.
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Thanks so much! You're the only person on RUclips that could explain this well. You've earned yourself a new sub!
+Bacon Grace thank you, i really appreciate the feed back. and thank you for your support.
Hi Bacon. See new post above to set up tone arm correctly
Frank you legend mate. Proper helped me out this did. Cheers.
I do professional electronics repair, I just started fiddling w/these 1200's, this was most informative, thanx
great vid!
I have a tip for the different vinyl thickness problem. set it up with your slimmest vinyl why? because its better to have your tonearm too low than too high. if its too high the needle will totally hack away your precious vinyl.
if you set it up with the slim vinyl, when you use a thicker one, it'll have the same effect as a lower tonerarm. which is your best bet.
Great guide, I think the tone arm height is is a good indicator but not the whole answer. I was eye-balling my LP120x putting more mats on and really checking the angle of the stylus and cantilever. It needed a bit higher up than I initially estimated purely going visually off the tone arm. You can see how the stylus behaves once everything drops.
Top man Very usefull. Just got serrato and saw that the signals were very different.
Had my decks for 12 years and never bothered setting them up properly.
Thanks to your video help they are set up perfectly.
@mushroomleg yeah i can see your point it does seem a bit strange, but the reason is because all needles and cartages are different shapes and sizes, you could have an ortofon blue and set it level but if i than put a stanton 500 on there it will be a bit lower so ill have to re adjust it.
hope this helped and thats for your comment.
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Thanks mate this and your anti skate one are brilliant. You have a knack for explaining these concepts clearly.I've owned 1210s for twenty years now and finally understand anti skate properly.
what you been doing for the past 20 years...
Same here.
Subbed.
Got a pair of 1200s recently and I' m doing this straight ahead, once I have them freshly serviced and I got my new Ortofon cartridges. Thx 🙏
@TheReIntegration no problem, thank you for your feed back and your kind works.
I'm glad you like the video, thank you for your comment.
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Thank you. I love your videos. I have an SL-1500 and am going to get it into shape.
RobertJason11 That is an awesome Turntable!
What setting the Stylus rake angle (SRA) the stylus should "rake": forward about 1 -2 degrees to match the average rake angle of the cutting sting stylus on the master .
When people talk about the VTA,, there are actually referring to the SRA.
Thanks a lot ! Just what I was looking for.
Technics should sponsor you.
Cheers mate
thank you very much for your comment and kind words.
im glad the video was a help. hopefully more videos to come soon...
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9yrs I owned some 1210's and never adjusted the arm height.. I know feel like a total plum! Great Vid and easy to understand!
Thank-You. It's probably been 30 years since I used a turntable & I had forgotten about the "setup" after moving it. You saved me from a big Oopz!
no worries, I'm glad the video was useful.
thank you for your comment.
Best video I saw on the subject even better than turntable manufacturers. You gained a subscriber my friend.
Key is "height adjustable tone arm".
A lot of turntables lower end or vintage don't have that.
So you can change the platter mat or if your using a standard type 1/2" mount head shell you can shim between the top of the cartridge and and bottom inside of head shell.
Thank you so much for your detailed video regarding VHA. I can't tell you how much you simplified the process of set-up. You rule and all the best to you and your vinyl acquisitions.
I have a Audio-Technica AT-PL120 which looks exactly like your Technics, just silver instead of black. They must be made by the same company. Very solid direct drive turntable for the past 5 years.
Some excellent points. I honestly never gave it much thought of the thickness of the vinyl, sounds weird but I never have. Thanks again for the tips...
i've never done this in over 20 years. definitley going to do it now
fantastic! Just got my Stanton ST150's today. So glad I watched your video today too!
Thanks, you've got talent for teaching.
Cheers mate, this had been confusing me. People said use a mirror but i wasn't sure what i was looking for
@plagueblack thank you, I'm glad you like the videos, I never thought I could be much of a teacher but I actually like it.
thanks again
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@ellollio No problem, thank you for your comment and feed back.
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all your videos really helped out tons. especially the led replacement of the target light. your the man. again thanks
Thanks for the video, the sound quality is way much more better! Anybody tried listening to the Lp without a Slipmat?
So helpful and easy to follow. I'd played about with this before but not really known what I was doing - also your anti-skating video was very useful as I'm about to come into an old 1200 which I'm sure will need a bit of reset. Plus; some of the decks I've played on in clubs have been all over the place and thanks to your video - I now have some idea of why. Cheers!
Thanks for the informative video, I now know I was sold a 1200 with a bent tone arm, haha.
@MsOliver02 thank you very much i'm happy you like the video.
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Great tutorials,,, saved me the trouble of having to explain much of it to some of my mates. Cheers
I've owned 5 1200s, 1999-present. I got my original set right from trial and error, but good grief, this video breaks it all down. It's amazing. Thank you so much @viperfrank
your vids are brilliant man!.thanks!
Very helpful, I have a Technics SL1500C with a Ortofon 2m red, and it will be replaced by a Ortofon 2m black very soon, thanks for the information.
Awesome video - well made tutorial. Now I have balanced my 1210s to perfection with fresh needles on them. Thanks Viper ;)
@robbies1 Hi there, thank you for your comment, its probably going to be best to set the weight first, as the weight will effect the height a little bit, as the needle pushes in slightly.
I hope this helped and thanks again for your comment.
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Great video on stuck tone arm adjustment. I took apart the tone arm apart. And the ring of the tone arm height adjustment is still stuck. I can’t move it. Any ideas how to unstick it. Some sites say use a heat gun. But not sure about that. Please let me know any ideas
I had a similar problem and whilst this tutorial is good I think it may be slightly inaccurate, I found a very handy tutorial on the ortofon website. Cant post the link but if you google, "ortofon how to set up a turntable" you should find the tutorial easy enough.
Hope this helps.
@nubedjmusic If you have adjusted the weight as well than you must have a problem with the anti-skate, try setting it to 0 and see if the problem stops, if so set it so 0 and keep it there, I will hopefully soon be doing a video on how to fix the anti-skate.
other than that, your Gimble (the pivot point at the back of the tone arm) could be sticking, try a little drop of sewing machine oil on the barrings.
hope this helped and thanks for your comment.
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thx man, I have my 1200's for 7 years and really didn't had a clue!!
Excellent explanation!
Thank you.
Awesome videos james... thanks to you i managed to replace both my tonearms and now my 15year old 1200s sounds much much better and SHINY!!! :) but one problem... they still somewhat skip every now and den when i do simple scratching, i calibrated both the tonearms with new headshell+carts&stylus and also levelled it as in this video.... hope you could advice on some other problems that might be happening :) thanks again james!!! nice record collection btw :)
thanks mate...i have learnt a great deal. i bought my turntables 6 months ago...and i didnt know these stuff, thanks alot
This video's great for people who are using that particular Ortofon cartridge... but not all cartridges are the same, and this method will not work for everyone.
Also, some cartridges can sit in the head shell at an angle. So, the tonearm will not always be level. Best to just use a set of magnifying head glasses to see where the stylus is sitting in the groove.
Another neat move I've just read is to place the needle on the run-in of the stationary record and raise the height at the tonearm base until the bottom of the stylus housing is parallel with the record. Then do the measurements. This might be more protective of the stylus as you don't need to hold the tonearm level while adjusting with no chance of dropping or bumping.
Nice Job On The Video. Where Were You 20 years Ago I definitely Needed You Then.
Cheers for all you put up mate, much appreciated! Already replaced an rca cable from one of your videos and just sorted anti skating (on one only as one not doing it), tone arm height and cleaned contacts for needles etc. and seems a lot better sound wise :) Think my mixer and speakers need servicing but defo way better at the minute!
that's great, I always like hearing that my videos are helping people, glad to hear they are helping you.
thank you for your comment.
Total dude, my 1200s are set up perfectly thanks to you. 👌
that's good to hear, its always nice when my videos help people, I'm glad you had success.
thank you for your feed back and your comment.
@newburyg No problem, thank you for your feed back and kind words, I'm glad you like the videos, I will try to do some more soon.
Thanks again for your comment.
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Awesome video indeed. Very informative and helped greatly with understanding the significance of the Technics 1200's tonearm height adjustment & my vinyls.
@viperfrank, cheers mate your vids r excellent. i have followed the tone arm and counterweight vids and still have really distorted sound.when i apply more pressure it sorts it. first i swapped the weight round, then moved it after seeing you say it was wrong. i put the tone arms at zero gravity, but then the weight only moves to 2 on dial. not enough tone arm space to move towards the needle end.. technics 1200. 1 ortofon & 1 technics head. ortofon more than technics but both still not perfect
Hi there, i did a video on how to service and repair the height adjustment, this should show you how to do the job, if you need any further assistance just send me a message.
Thank you for your comment.
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great video. 5 stars
waiting for weight tonearm adjustment video. thanks
Thank you, I'm glad you like the videos, i will hopefully have some more on the way soon.
Thank you for your comment.
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Agree, good video! So basically, as well as doing it by eye, as long as the ruler measurement is the same (back and front end), the tone arm height is set correctly?
You're a very good orator.
Great informative and simple to follow videos, thanks!
@SirFoggy2Doped hi there, not really, you wont really notice the difference its only mainly for setting up for new cartridges, its not really worth going though all the bother of setting the hight every time you play a record.
hope this helped and thanks for your comment.
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Your videos are excellent. Thank you.
I have two 1210MK2 and I simply cannot get the tone-arm to become parallel in neither. The first one has the height adjustment jammed up so I'll have to check your other video on fixing this. The second one however has a different issue. I rotate the height adjustment as low as possible and I still have the tone-arm base too high! Am I doing something wrong here? Thanks!!
The same question
hi yeah mine was jammed too so my advice is be really careful when messing around with the tonearm cause I broke mine even though I thought I was doing everything like he said in the video...
And then when you have it perfectly level (on a regular 120 gram vinyl record)
THEN the fun part starts, now you have to fiddle down in the 1/50th of a mm.
In order to find a VTA setting that sounds best across your different LP's of various thicknesses.
If you're very persistent, you'll have everything sounding stellar.
Word of advice, a neutral VTA doesn't sound very good.
You'll have to reduce the height of the tone-arm base very slightly, so the tonearm is going up-hill towards the pickup.
This is called a negative SRA, and my experience is that a very miniscule amount of negative SRA, sounds much fuller, deeper and less fatiquing.
Thank you just watched this and your anti skating video, I have now fixed the issue on one of my turntables :)👍
that nice to hear, I'm always happy when someone is able to fix an issue using my video.
thank you for your comment.
Nicely presented, very easy to follow. Cheers.
@billybob7814 Thank you, I'm glad that the v video was of some use and that you managed to sort your issue. hopefully more videos on the way soon.
Thanks again.
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finally step up to face the two turntables in my room. it's been sitting there for half a year since I bought it. Really wanna pick up what I used to like. but which comes first? the tonearm adjustment or the cartridge adjustment(counterweight)? Sry I'm new to this.
i would try weight adjustment. then tone arm height and the check weight one more time. after that check the anti skate. most people set anti skate to 0 if they scratch and back cue aggressive. this gentleman has a video for all of it and explains very well.
On my Gemini XL-100 manual it's written: "Tone Arm bearings are factory set and sealed. Any attempt at
adjustment will void the warranty."
So now what about the tone-arm adjustment?
hi there, no you should be fine to put WD40 on it as long as you don't use too much and wipe off and over spill.
if you spray some into like a small pot like a yogurt pot or something like that, than get a small peace of tinfoil and bend it into a u-shape and use that to scoop some oil up and drip it into the hight adjustment ring. it will be less messy that way and you can get it more accurately.
pope this helped and thanks for your comment.
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hi there, nice vid
my dial that adjust the height is super stiff and I can't move it. I've tried a bit of oil but it still won't move.
what could you suggest?
please help
Thanks - tuning for dummies. Needed that !!!
Hi.
I hope you are the miracle I need !
I have about CD 4 vynyl
It is gonna sound silly but, I don't know where to adjust the height. I have an old Akai AP-103 model with a broken needle. I've ordered the needle, it's on its way... But I can't find the place where you adjust the height on that model...
Great video, very helpful. My question is can you adjust the pitch of the tonearm? What I mean is that when I bought my 1210 M5G's I noticed that one of the tonearms kind of was tilted inwards, like if a person was pigeon toed.
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@kazywaz Thank you very much for all your kind words. I am so glad you like the videos. I haven't done any videos for a long time, I will hopefully be doing some more videos soon.
thank you again for all your kind words.
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Is the needle at 90 degrees to the cartridge (perpendicular) on most cartridges? thanks
hi James, how do I adjust the lowering speed of the tonearm? It drops down too fast and hard. It also pops up quite fast as I use the lever to do it.
Is this the same thing as arm elevation? My turntable has an arm elevation and it looks more like a lever.
The arm of my turtable don't come back at the end of the disc. How can i fix that? Thank you so much
Continuation...
When measureing one is always lower and the tone arm sits on the record kind of slanted to the inside sometimes causin my cartridge to scrape the record. Is the any way of adjusting the pitch or roll on my tonearm. Sorry for using aviation terms but its the only was to get my point across with out taking photos.
Always set up the counter balance first, the usual way - make sure the tone arm floats straight, then set the weight, then set the anti-skate and finally the height adjustment.
Agreed, like your door organizer! Sweet!
Thanks man!! But i can't do that with my Technics SL-1700... Can you help me to adjust the height and the antiskating??
Can you offer any advice on my tone arm lift not picking up or going down? Thanks
I have a Technics SL 1500 and it doesn't adjust like yours. I notice when the arm lever is up the tone arm is level and when it is down on the record it is at a slight angle. I am looking through the manual and it doesn't say how to adjust. Can you please help?
James maybe this is earier to do. This comes from the Technics 1200/1210 manual. all you need to know is the height of the Cartridge either measure or in instructions for Cartridge.
Table as below
Cartridge height............ Now set scale reading ring at base of tone arm to:-
15mm 0
16mm 1
17mm 2
18mm 3
19mm 4
20mm 5
21mm 6
Hope this Helps
i have a pair of technics and the height adjustment knot will not move on both of them,if i add a little bit of WD-40,will it damage the turntable?