Top 10 Cursed Motorcycles of ALL TIME
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
0:38 Suzuki B-King
2:21 Bimota V-Due
3:36 Suzuki TM400
5:12 Gilera CX125
6:28 Kawasaki H2 Mach IV
7:57 Vincent Black Shadow
9:13 BMW C1
10:20 BMW Scarver
11:26 Honda DN-01
12:30 BMW R1200C 
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Quick history note on the 911 "widow maker". I think the title was somewhat earned because of the handling of the cars. They had huge 80s turbos with tons of lag so people would hit the gas in a corner off boost and nothing would happen. Eventually when the boost would hit when they weren't ready and they would get scared and take their foot off of the gas and due to the rear engine weight balance this would trigger almost instant, non recoverable, oversteer and send the cars into poles, ditches, innocent bystanders. etc. (nerd rant complete)
Let's just say you should dig deeper than that.
911 is inherently bad construction requiring very specific way of driving; they're more or less figured it out now - not so much in the 80's.
Main reason was ultimate combination of absolute dumbass rear suspension and the fact that if you lift (not even after boost hit etc) in the corner while going at least a bit fast - you get yourself a crash no matter what (unlike other cars where you can catch it). Rear suspension was what starting to scare in the corner, than come the lift annnnd crash.
Boost was part of that too; scenario you described was also taken place - but it was way more than that.
Actually the problem with 911 when going fast is not oversteer, it's understeer. I suppose they were trying to fix that with this abomination of a rear suspension they used in the 80s-90s.
Wow, reverse snap oversteer that even modern day ford cant compete with...
Sorry, had to say that at least once today.
As far as danger... Always figured the worst one would be a 959, dual turbos, one big one, one small one... No electronics... Sounds like something a just graduated lawschool guy/gal would crash and crash hard.
Slow by modern standards but...
Never driven one myself though...maybe one day.
Saying you've gotten to drive an f40, 959, or original gt40... That would be a cool story to tell one day. Maybe bucket list dream at this point, but goals still nonetheless.
Non-recoverable oversteer literally doesn’t exist. A good enough driver can always counter oversteer as it’s happening.
@@joetroy2904 ehm good enough driver wouldn't do that mistake (abrupt lift off) to begin with.
And I bet you don't know how violent it could be once you're going really fast :D
Especially in a 80s shitbox (which 911 certainly was) with constantly changing toe and 60+% weight outside rear axle. Once you lift (and I mean complete abrupt lift like regular Joe would do out of fear) you're done.
Looks like skill issue to me 🤷
That Gilera looks cool as fuck
I was gonna say the same thing
Agreed
Yeah that thing is awesome.
I wanna look like a power ranger 😂
Yammie must be smokin somethin to think that's ugly.
The CX125 actually looks a bit cool tbh...guilty pleasure I guess
If a 70's 911 Turbo isn't a widow maker, I don't know what is! Those things are deadly, not only because of the massive turbo lag, but also the fact the whole car is a pendulum, with all the weight behind the rear axle. They used to put lead bricks in the nose of the car to compensate...
Agree. Many yuppies died in that car.
this man is delutional, it is THE widowmaker what is he talking about? I unfollowed Yammie Noob a long time ago, but this video seemed interesting, seems he still is a crybaby that disrespects everything unless it is a sports bike smh
@@mikesama5458 He's incredibly misinformed about nearly everything he talks about and then completely disrespects it while not knowing jack shit about it. He's like the stereotypical bike rider
i was actually thinking of subscribing but then when i hear him say that i just thought why subscribe to someone who doesn't care to do his research there isnt a car or bike more deserving of that title your 100% right it is THE widowmaker @@mikesama5458
Exactly ! He got an unfollow for that comment not even sure he really knows what he’s talking about at all now
I think that Gilera CX is pretty cool, actually. It's well proportioned compared to the pictured Buell.
Very early 80s scifi.
The CX 125 looks gorgeous!!
I agree, man I love that kind of retro-futuristic vibe it has. You can see nowadays it's kinda old. But back in the day that was SOME design. And to this day I still love it.
Imagine one painted like the bike from Akira
When it was not for that weird "shield" shape of the front then yes, totally.
...well as they saying goes "thats what peak performance looks like".
Did it look strange on introduction like the hayabusa? YES.
Did function over form grant it a unique asthetic that gained it more and more followers as time went on? YES
I agree, I think it's pretty cool-looking
Yammie clearly not familiar with the massive sledgehammer turbo-lag and rear end instability of the 80's 911 Turbos. They were indeed widow-makers.
Had a DN-01 on the floor for almost 3 years before it finally sold. We were thinking DN-01 meant "Do Not - Own One"
Now that's funny 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Damn you beat me to it. I remember a dealer making this joke when I asked what it was. He said it stood for "do not order one."
They are going up in value in the UK these days. Future collectable for sure.
Gilera CX is great bike, very fast for its CC and legal in europe for 16 years old kids
It's beautiful.
There was also a limited run using 350cc V twin engines from Moto Morini
You're crazy Yammie, the CX is gorgeous!
he is American! they cant be trusted
The widow maker here in Brazil is the Yamaha RD350, good power with bad brakes is always a fun combo
Easily remedied with a RZ front end.
Same in India. The rd350 with its bad brakes killed alot of young rich guys, 350cc was out of the world for India back then.
Here in the UK, the RD250LC was pretty much single-handedly responsible for the law limiting learner riders to 125cc 12bhp bikes.
I'm so fkn happy to see that other people think that Gilera is gorgeous! You gentleman have excellent taste! 🍻
Me too.... thought I might have been crazy ha ha
What's crazy is, I haven't even ridden a bike since my dirt bike days as a teenager. But I've watched every video this guy has made for the past 2 years.
More like you😅
Try getting back into bikes! It doesn't matter if you're 35 or 75, there's a bike and riding style that you can enjoy. Even if medical issues prevent you from riding a normal bike, I've seen plenty of people having fun in 3 wheelers. I even once saw a guy who'd modified his Goldwing to drop small stabilizing wheels when slowing down, so you don't have to balance the bike until it's at a speed where it basically does it for you.
I have a first gen multistrada and although it looks unique (not in a good way) it's so much fun to ride.
I have owned two of them. A normal 620 and a 620 dark. I had no problems with the looks.
yeah, had a few Ducati, 800 S2R, Monster 620, 696, and the Multistrada 1000. Despite the look, it is one of the best handling and fun to ride bike i had ever own
The BMW R1200C is what Homer Simpson would draw if you asked him to design a bike.
i disagree. I think its one of the best looking non custom choppers
1st 911 turbos had peaky power after big turbo lag like the h2. also had snap oversteer. Both combined made "Widowmaker" a absolutely legitimate title for the car. To be sure
The B-King is a misunderstood beast. Quirky looks aside, that Hayabusa-powered engine is no joke. Great value for anyone seeking raw, unapologetic power on a budget: 184hp
The look def helps with a pair of Yoshimura cans. Awesome bike, easy to manage and strong AF.
for real, considering that it costs less than half of what a z h2 costs and can put out similar numbers with a cheap tune its a steal. he can sing praises about the z h2 and its supercharger all day but in the end it has just 15 hp more and less torque.
The CX125 is legitimately a dream bike for me, so IDK lol
I didn't find the cx gilera to be ugly .
The Gilera CX 125 is basically a Collectors Item. Gilera only ever made 1000 units of it for the whole World, it was only build for one year and the used prices really reflect that. If you happen to find one thats for sale prices are usualy around 12-15.000 Euros. It was powered by a watercooled 125cc two stroke engine that produced 31 HP and thanks to the aerodynamics it reached Topspeeds of over 160 KPH. It was also a really great handling bike with a weight of only 131 Kg. Luckily though Gilera also produced a more "Civilian" version of that bike with the same engine and similar weight, the Gilera Crono, which was built in way higher numbers and for a few years, with the last few years even using the same single sided rear swingarm of the CX and used prices for those are usualy around 2-3.000 Euros.
Finding a good one is all important. Spares for bodywork etc are like hen's teeth. How anyone could not appreciate the styling is beyond me 😄
Is it wrong that I want at least 70% of the bikes on this list?
IMO the F6500CS is kinda cool. I even wanted to buy one last year but decided to get a GS instead. It was very innovative for its time and much ahead of any japanese bike in its class. Also the CD player was the dumbest accessory to install in the 'hole where tank should be'. Other included helmet mount with a lock and various tankbags. It was also fuel injected, had ABS and belt drive. GL finding that in anything you can buy for this cash . BTW while it looks absolutely ugly on photos, in reality it's better.
I have seen 1 DN-01 in the wild, ridden by a gentleman missing his left arm. Said it was a blessing they made the bike as it allowed him to ride again.
I find the Gilera CX 125 a stunningly beatuful little bike
My neighbour had one of those awful looking BMWs with the roof. It was awkward just to see the dang thing on his front yard every morning when I left for work. It was just disturbing to look at it before my morning coffee.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
i always called it "THE THING" when i saw one.... nowdays there is a fanbase for those shitboxes and they pay a lot money for that... 7000 upwards..... crazy isnt it ?
Gx125 is one of the most beautiful bikes to me
A museum of these "beauties" would be an awesome place to visit.
These bikes would become very expensive collectors items, not for their beauty or practicality, but quite the opposite! 🙃
I would visit such a museum for sure - especially if there were interesting stories about each model and how they might have had their moment in time.
Great video - Thank you.
Sam Miller Motorbike museum
I was just waiting for my F650CS Scarver to make this list. It may be the single most practical, and easiest motorbike to live with ever, but boy is it awkward to look at.
Great to ride though, I even took mine mild ADV riding last weekend.
We have a couple of CX125s. The handling is just like a bike with conventional forks. Gilera did talk about developing the front end to fit the fork tube in the head stock. Complete nightmare to work on as the bodywork has to all come off to do many things (and the plastic goes brittle with age). Front brake line goes through the fork lower (makes it fun to put a brake line in place)
No, the H2 was not a bored out H1, a completely different design. And if you have ever ridden a decent example, you would know that the they were not that bad to ride. Yes, they were a handful, but they actually had a descent power band that came on much earlier than the H1. The handling was not all that terrible and the main problem were the tires at the time. Also it was an extremely dependable motorcycle. I bought one new in 73 (worked at the dealership at the time) and wish I still had mine....but alas.
The transmission in the DN-01 is not a conventional belt type CVT, it is a swashplate hydrostatic unit. Much cooler, also more expensive to make.
The Gerila CX125 looks good though.
10:30 Yes, the Scraver is an ugly duckling, but it drives excellently, I had one a few years ago.
I think Yammie have a thing with a BMW, I saw Scraver, I rode in a pack with a girl on R1200C - they are all fine in my opinion.
Ich überleg mir eine zuzulegen und um zu bauen. Irgendwie is es ne coole Maschine die nur n bisschen feinschliff braucht
I had a TM400 - my mate (a fitter turner ) made some air rear shocks for it- and converted the front forks to air - and it was a great bike to ride...even raced it without problems ...just shows decent suspension can cure some issues
11:59 look like a medieval torture device!! I am dying of laughter!
Shame about the F650 CS. It's a bomber Rotax 650 CC thumper mated to a belt drive. What's not to like? Would have been a perfect approachable "big" beginner bike. It's really just the front end that was its undoing.
the gutless engine let it down
NGL, that DN01 is just a few design changes away from being goated. 10"(25cm) lower seat height, a little narrower on the chassis and 4" (10cm) higher pegs, remote steering mount for proper reach, and a Rebel 1100 power package with belt drive... If we're going all out, Robert Horn's VHCS front suspension and get it at or under 530 lbs (240kg) curb weight with a full 5 gallon+ (19L+) tank.
TBH. i do like the looks of BMW F650CS so long as you replace mirror with bar end mirrors and is in silver.
I bought an R1200C last year for $2,000 with 4k miles. It was ugly already and someone decided to airbrush a JACKED werewolf on it with lightning. That and straight pipes with drag bars...rides and runs great and I enjoy the hell out of it and how ridiculous it is.
every comment I've seen here is either about how the gilera cx125 actually looks good, or how the 911 turbos were actually dangerous af
Personally the Beemer's cruiser, also featured in a James Bond film, was cool. I loved the then sort of innovative 90s futuristic design and their front end suspension design using the motor as a stressed member of the chassis. I also liked the idea of the attachable and functional uses that the Scarver offered and its marketing. At least to an impressionable teen I thought it was cool.
Yammie: this bike is hideous.
Me: its okay gilera, I dont think your hideous.
...well its a bit like busa.
Aero over everything else does create unique asthetics. Some like it some hate it.
What cant be denied, is that ,ou couldnt ride anything as fast as it at 16.
I bought an R3 last week as my first bike, and this video makes me feel a little less lame about it.
I do like the looks of the Scarver.
It's weird, maybe ugly.
Love it!
welcome to the club
I almost bought one a few months ago..
I really like them. They have a low fuel tank, like a scooter. The traditional fuel tank area is used for storage. They're belt driven too. Rare as rocking horse poo in the UK now. I've never seen one in the wild.
@@MahatmaAndhi We still have some Im Portugal, recently saw one for sales, 3500 euros 30000 kilometers
3:31 Nice Iconic Motorbikes, I've been there in Santa Monica, CA and its nothing short of amazing with how many old/ imported bikes they have in such good low mileage condition.
The Bking is but a flash, exhaust pipe valve, and some bigger airbox snorkels away from from full power. Put in a busa bin file with "b-king gauges" clicked and the bike has full power. This bike had same mechanical engine specs as a busa. Ride one. You wont say by any means it is underpowered even stock. Wonderful bike (once the goofy looking exhaust is replaced). Yes I have one. Sitting next to the hayabusa. Guess which one gets ridden more....
Having owned many bikes I consider beautiful like Ducati Paso750, Paso 907ie, 900ss FE, 996 MV Augusta V4 1000, Aprilia 1000 Factory, Honda MVX250. I have to say I really like the looks of BMW R1200C However never bought one as I rode it and thought it was so underpowered and sounds like a chirping sowing machine.
V-Due: How can a 2 stroke "leak all of it's oil"? Gilera CX125: I think it's a very nice looking motorcycle and would love to own one. Certainly much better looking that any modern KTM!
The 930 Turbo WAS a widow maker. the massive turbo lag and the rear mounted engine often sent unexperienced drivers right into the next wall, tree or ditch. if you hit the acelerator at the wrong time in a curve you were sent flying. due to where the engine was located at, it was nearly impossible to catch the car again.
So close with the BMW R1200C, but you forgot the decked out version, the R1200CL
Hehe, every 2T engine with a narrow powerband is called a death trap or widow maker. It's just the way a good 2 stroke works.
I think the late 70's Can-am motocrossers deserve a slot here. I think one of their factory riders actually christened his bike the widowmaker.
Peace!
I want an updated cx, that thing looks very cool
I laughed so hard, Yam, I left a little surprise in my racing suit. Going out for a speed run, get an extra 1/2 mph w/o underwear!
The DN-01 makes sense if you're an older fellow who values comfort, you have an injury to your left arm/hand, you're capable and willing to part with the money, AND you intend to make use of its good lean angle. As it turns out, a buyer that matches that description exactly is a very small part of the overall market. It's no surprise it didn't sell well.
Same as my CTX700(look it up it's literally just the DN-01) it cut cut for low sales
The dn-01 is gorgeous, I'd totally buy one if it had a manual
The name of the bike is a warning. Do Not 0wn 1.
Good(ish) list but easy to do a part 2. Some candidates:
Moto-Shifty 900 (Fiat 126 car engine with a foot-operated H-gate gearchange in a motorcycle...)
Bocardo (Peugeot car engine in a blobby touring bike with the fuel in the fairing. Company went bust and owner wanted by Interpol the last I heard)
Creasy Voyager (Reliant car engine in a fibreglass-covered feet-forwards design that looked like a Portaloo on wheels)
Suzuki RE5 ("simple" Wankel rotary engine with so much extra gubbins to make it work that it was heavier than the equivalent piston-engined bike)
Aprilia Moto 6.5 (650 single roadster that looked like a plastic kettle, mainly because it was "styled" by Philippe Starck who was famous for designing plastic kettles)
Yamaha GTS1000 (hub-centre-steering sports-tourer with no steering lock and a detuned FZR motor, all for the price of a FJ1200 PLUS an XT350)
the DN-01 lasted for several more years in Japan.
that transmission was ahead of its time ♥
The BMW C1 is a thing of beauty that sadly, fell far too short of its potential. It is a design we must be looking forward to, funding, and maximizing to its full potential. Also, the scarver would probably be considered nostalgic now, I think it's cool.
Of course, you have to remember that the H2 was actually an IMPROVED upgrade of the H1 with better suspension an brakes. 😮The only reason I survived my H1 back in high school was that the expensive spark plugs had a bad tendency to foul, reducing power. 🙄
Funnily enough my dad literally almost died on a Kawasaki H2 Mach 4 back in the 70’s. He was in high school and full throttled it past some onlookers before losing control and flying straight into a corn field. Couple days in the hospital, months of recovery and one berating by my grandpa later, he was okay 👍
A german comedian once called the BMW C1 as followed: "the Design is inspired by the Electric Chair of the Alabama County Jail". And i think thats the best description. 😂
911 Turbo that literally killed drivers at a moment's notice - "Cmon, that's not a widowmaker". Uh huh....
Call me nuts that that CX125 looks awesome haha.. straight out of 80s sci fi
Here in Brazil there's only one Motorcycle called "Black Widow" (Viúva Negra), which for us means like "Widowmaker" to you, and that's the YAMAHA RD350... And it was violent.
The Kawasaki 750 H2 had a purple colour option when it launched in the UK, which lead to it being christened "The Purple People Eater" after the novelty monster song. One journalist (Mark Williams?) published a review of it which saw the immortal phrase " earth, sky, earth, sky, nurse" used in print for the first time.
I used to regularly see a Honda DN-01 parked in my local town centre here in the UK for years after it's one-year production run, so somebody must have loved it. I quite like the way it looked, but the eye-watering superbike price for a warmed-over NT650 Revere engine (a bike so boring it was nicknamed the "Reverie") and the lack of sensible luggage options mde it a non-starter. I believe to this day that had it been cheaper it might have sold better.
Papa Yams needs to dip his toe into standup. Maybe open mic night, Kill Tony? It's right there in Austin.
Had a H2 it was a bag of laughs, especially when the power came in, much more scary were the Suzuki kettle GT750
In fact the GT 750 had a wide powerband. Therefor it was used by many as a touring bike. It could pull in fifth gear with only 2-3000 rpm.
Speaking of bikes prone to highside and tank slap.. RZ500.
A bike that is reluctant to turn.. Husky A7.
Your videos have made me a self proclaimed motorcycle expert
Busa owner here and I know a number of people that have B-kings..... They are actually great bikes that will do pretty much everything you need pretty darn well and they have a ton of potential to go extremely fast.
I considered a R1200C as my first big bike. Sorry, not sorry, but I like its looks. However, I realised it was incredibly underpowered for a bike of its weight. Not only that, but the tank is so wide and high it's like sitting down with a VW Bug between your knees.
I test rode one, it handled well and was very smooth. Nothing really bad about it, I just didn't want to own one.
I had a R1200C as a first bike, and I can tell you that it was incredibly beginner friendly, that ultra low center or gravity, ABS, low maintenance and more than adequate power made it one hell of a bike.
There's a British engineer who can make the Bimota V Due run perfectly and it's a brilliant thing
It's wild how much companies think young people want something new. I'm 25, and I bought a Royal Enfield. I literally bought the Harley of India (except RE is actually reliable, affordable, and looks nice; whereas Harley just looks nice about 50% of the time)
Yammie, if that's what you truly think about early 80's 911 turbos, do a video where you go take one for a spirited drive round some twistys with that same bravado. Then your 1.34 million subs can all learn how to use a ouija board because that's the only way you'll be hearing from anybody ever again.
You got me bro with "wagyu, but got Meatloaf." 😂❤😂
Name it the bee king,no yellow and black color way
I was thinking of an other cursed Motorcycle with the name CX: The "Honda CX 500 Turbo" (81-82).
The regular CX 500 had already a too weak suspension and the turbo lag made it more unpredictable.
I would of had a B-King if i fit on it.... such a God Tier bike...
The V-due , with either Carbs or a Microsquirt AND Jolly Moto sickenly gorgeous chambers ..., is a REVELATION !!
I had a scale model of C1 when I was a child and to be honest - it was looking soooooo cool because of roof. I mean it was the only bike with the roof, kinda impossible out-of-earth technologies!
My first ever bike was a Gilera 50cc supermoto. I loved it.
That Honda Cruise-O-Scooter has "early to the shuffleboard court" all over it....I'm in !! Honnnnnnnnnnnnduh.
I enjoyed the video. Great work and glad to see you are doing your thing. Idk if you remember but my mom, who still rides across the country to this day used to ride a k1200c. She enjoyed it but liked her Goldwings better…. Oh btw it’s Daniel just checking out your content bro take care!
Gilera 125 is a work of art.
The DN01 actually looks great. It might be good if they focus on a genre instead of being a chimera.
I kinda like that Gilera. Lol. It's so over the top 80's and early 90's.
It reminds me of those Nissan pulsar's or izusu sunbeam or subaru sv's or Mazda percidia, just a bike version
HI Eu motorcycle mechanic here. I had the pleasure of working in all of the bike's in this list except the bimota, hayabusa an black shadow.
The CX was a prof of concept and give way to the cagiva fereccia C10, C11, C12 you can still see influence on the first Aprilias Rs 125 /250.
The H2 was to fast for the time (chasis wise). M'I grand grand grampa had a vincent black shadow I'still have the manual same as the H2, Lorence of Arabia died on one of those.
The C1 is Shite, and I work in a few of those here in BCN, but the F650CS is tank the second version without of the belt still runs, Rotax is Rotax.
The DNO1 it's bad, but same concept as the CX now you have the Integra and X-ADV.
And the BMW R1200C Is a sofa and prof of concept for the tele-lever suspension that you can find in a RT 1200 .
So very USA point of view most of this bikes are grate, not with problems we have to admit, but not designed for the USA, we have Very diferent roads and uses for bikes here, for allot of us bikes are like cars for you so please take this in consideration, les hipe and more facts.
I Love the R1200C!
7:57
It was a widow maker, try to drive one one day
I went into this video thinking about Hunter S. Thompson, and his description of the Vincent Black Shadow. I was not disappointed.
Lol the scarvous looks just like the evil leader in the gobots
I always heard the suzuki TL1000s referred to as the widowmaker.
no way this fella called 911 turbo a POSER for being the actual widowmaker 💀
There’s a CX125 in the Timmelsjochen motorcycle museum. It’s the only one I’ve seen - it looked a bit odd, but in a good way.
The C1 is a 2 wheel golf cart hahaha
Love that Blue H2 !
With the Honda DN01. They got it right later on with xadv range and forza 750/integra 750. Crossing the line between scooter and motorcycle
That video sucks! Gilera CX 125 looks AWESOME, and Honda DN-01 is actually one of the best cruisers ever: it's comfortable (with a larger screen), reliable, easy to ride, looks cool. Owners love them! And, yes, it does have a CVT transmission, but it's unlike scooters - it doesn't have any belts and cones. It has a hydrostatic drive instead. Which makes an HFT transmission of DN-01 drop-dead reliable - unlike conventional CVTs that fails all the time. Worth mentioning.
I agree with most people about the Gilera CX 125,It looks cool to me, and an earodynamicly clad 125 can be quite fun to ride, I've been riding a Ducati 851 for ages now, but i wouldn't mind a lighter bike every now and then..
The BMW Scarver has some handy features.. Like the luggage Compartment where you'd expect a fuel tank.. try to take anything bigger than a cheese sandwich on a modern sportbike..