De-Badging the Triumph and the First Proper Ride Upcoming Book
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- I attempt to de-badge the Bonneville, charge the battery and give it the first proper ride in five months
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Omg, I almost couldn't watch you cut around the sticker!
A heat gun is considerably hotter than a hair dryer and I think that's what you need. Cautiously since, you know - fuel. The proper fix after getting that off is to wetsand (at least) the area around where the old tank badger used to be, then re-clear the tank, use compound to grind it down and then a polish - and then put on the new badgers. Probably. Realistically, it probably would be best to just repaint the whole thing.
Exactly want I was thinking. I've peeled off many a badge with a traditional noisy hsr dryer set to hot.
Exactly what I was going to recommend as well.
Nooooo don’t use a hot air gun on lacquered decals. It’s far to hot and will cause the laquer too blister.
Bloody badgers. They're the devil to get off once you've got them on. 🙄
Jesus, Thats hard work
For future reference I worked in car body repair a long time ago and the most effective way of removing stripes , stickers and badges from vehicles is to boil a kettle and pour the water over it. This melts the glue but not the sticker and does not damage paintwork. You won’t get the entire sicker off in one go but it’s the best way 👍
Freddie, You really need to tighten the leads on your Triumph battery with a 10mm spanner or socket and not just a screwdriver, the vibration will loosen the connections and eventually cause loss of power and starting problems.
Yes
I can’t believe Monica is embarrassed by the exhaust yet is ok with being seen with you in that jacket!!
Couldn't agree more about the jacket 😃
Takes balls to wear style lads, only Freddie could pull that jacket off 😁
How about a raincoat and beret !
@@DeiseRebellooks like summat out of a John Wayne movie. Absolute heaving with laughter at this
@@suesue5694 Style is subjective so I stand by my view.
My mouth was wide open as you were explaining what you were about to do. I was shouting DONT’T DO IT… I think you should prepare to have the tank repainted😮
Sees Freddie taking a Stanley knife to his tank
* rushes to the comments section *
Love the marigolds 😂 great to see the riumph back👌
Freddie, I recommend topping the tank off with a bit of redex, available in most petrol stations. It will actively clear up all the gum while you’re riding it, should result in a quicker and cleaner fix.
Redex is the business, great tip 👌🏻
Great to see the Bonneville back. I was concerned when Freddie got the tool kit out, fears confirmed when the Stanley knife was produced 😳 Anyone else shouting "Don't do it"?
Great entertainment on par with Baron Von Grumble taking his Gixer down a green lane.
I'm with you, I couldn't watch it! What has that poor Bonnie done to deserve this?
@@stevenwatling3160 I'm not sure if Freddie & Monika are being clever here. Posting something that causes a reaction with the viewers and leads to comments gets the video pushed more by RUclips.
Get some redex in your bike Mr Dobbs it's suitable for e10 petrol engines now just read the back off the bottle good luck
You beat me to it.😊
Hi Reddie. Great video and that brand new second hand Riumph is the dogs! I look forward to see you and Onicka on a tour around Urope. 🏍️😂😂😂
Take the baffle out completely. I ran my Bonnie for 6 years with the same exhaust from TEC parts, just no rattling baffle. You'll save a fortune and it'll sound so much better. Tust me, you won't be disappointed; plus you'll be better off financially....
Monika, you'd be lost without her. Hang on tight to her.
Thank you Monika, for all the great 'support'!💐👸🥇
I think we would be the loosers too
She's like Betty was to Frank Spencer
@@1mikefrost Not sure Freddie will get that link!
@@flexywing 😅
Freddie that is what I call entertainment 😅😅 I would pay good money to watch The Missendenflyer and you do a repair together. Mind you I recognize the danger signs of a disaster because of my numerous mechanical failures. 😂 Watching your adventures is so refreshing so please don’t stop...brings back a lot of memories.
If that's a Dyson hairdryer, it doesn't produce enough heat as it is supposedly kinder to hair....
The bike should run perfectly after being picked up from the “mechanic”, if it doesn’t, take it back. It’s not going to improve with a few miles on it…
If it's been sitting for five months with E10 fuel, it's quite possible that the fuel has "gone off". E10 has a shelf life of 6 months in winter or as little as 3 months in summer, depending on temperature. The ethanol is also hygroscopic so it can absorb moisture from the atmosphere which sits at the bottom of the tank and can be drawn into the fuel system, depending upon where the fuel pickup is within the tank. A fresh tank of ethanol-free Esso Synergy+ is definitely a good idea (but if there is water in the tank the only way to remove it is to drain the tank as it always sinks to the bottom being denser than petrol).
Exactly
Hello Freddie, a partially filled tank of petrol, the remainder filled with vapour and a hot hairdryer blowing hot air in an enclosed space……what could possibly go wrong? Please, please take care. David
@@Tomasz.P___bPetrol evaporates super quickly and it will fill the air inside the apartment. Add the tiniest spark and it goes boom.
Lol!!!!!
Oh! Please, please don’t use the unleaded E10 again! Think of it this way (I’ve used this many times before and I think it’s the easiest way to explain the con that is the new fuel).
When you have a gin and tonic the gin is the bit that gives the flavour and that satisfying kick. The tonic is just there to add volume.
Same with E10. Now your G&T has been diluted even more so you need another to give you that same warm feeling.
E10 is 10% ethanol and you and I have already discussed where that comes from. It doesn’t help your car/bike and it you have an older car, it will do it no end of harm. Particularly if one has a carburettor because it rots the rubber seals. And don’t leave E10 in your tank over winter because it’ll turn to jelly, even in your petrol lawn mower.
And, this is important, because E10 fuel has less petrol, you end up using more. I’ve done the tests and I can confirm that’s true, for me at least.
I have a car (Porsche) that is highly tuned and if I was to dare to put E10 fuel in it, a light comes on the dashboard and the car goes into limp home mode. It’s a bit like the car is sulking.
So don’t do it. Don’t even put E10 in your Fiat! It will thank you in the long term.
Ethanol has less energy than petrol, but at 10% you will see maybe 1 or 2 mpg less. But the jelly story WTF? Not true, and the reason gas goes off is that it’s full of easily evaporated petrol fractions that were introduced when lead phased out. And the thing about rubber, well ethanol is the same as rubbing alcohol, and that doesn’t generally damage rubber
Half a job Dobbs. 😅
Add the T from the tank decals to the ever growing list of unfinished work on the poor Bonnie.😂
MISSING BOLT !!! Hi Freddie, please check the mountings for your luggage rack, under the seat. There are two mounting points at the rear of the frame. I think the left bolt is missing on the left mounting. Tried reading through the comments to see if anyone else noticed, but as there are so many I gave up. You must be a very busy boy with your RUclips channel . Great videos !
Correct
Oh man Freddie. The hairs in my arm were standing up when I seen you taking a cutting tool to your tank! 🫣
I've always used a hot water bottle. Fill it with boiling water and lay it over the sticker. Within about 2 minutes the glue has melted again and the sticker comes off in a single peel
Good luck with the book project Freddie. What a wonderful and useful endeavor to record those years of motorcycling. I was far too young during the 60's and 70's to be a part of it. As a young boy though I would dream of being in the wind by devouring the pages of EZRider magazine. Rip's Run was a particular favorite and one of the reasons I have the same nick name today. Can't wait to read yours.
Freddie, always in fashion, even when working on his bike.
I always change into my 'maintenance' clothes.
Heck, with all the oil/paint/grease stains, etc., they might considered fashion, lol.
If you think you have problems now, you wait until you spill a little petrol onto the tank when filling. It will get between the paint and the lacquer and cause ugly bubbling of the lacquer. Oh Freddie.
Heat gun for the tank and probably piece of high temperature resistant tape for the exhaust would fix the issues. It is called learning by practice, failure is just one step closer to success. Kind regards from Poland.
Just be aware that if you change the exhaust you’re probably going to have to rejet / retune depending on whether you have carbs or EFI. Another reason for the lumpiness may be due to the bike sitting for so long without being run. Modern fuel has a higher water content, which means it deteriorates quicker than traditional fuel. This could well have gummed up your injectors or jets slightly. I’d try a capful of redex in each tank fill for a few cycles. Seafoam would also work as well 👍
A decent front mudguard will stop the corrosion on the engine
Another tip,just use a Stanley knife blade on its own ,and held at 30 degrees, its much more sensitive
Also either steam clean the tank or empty the fuel out and fill it with water
Love those 70's and 80's pictures. I am going to try to dig up some of mine.
heatgun->peel off stickers->sanding->clearcoat tank->new badges
Freddie, I currently own, maintain, and occasionally repair my 1988 BMW K75 with 88k+ miles, my 2002 BMW R1150GS eith 62k + miles and most recently my 2017 Ducati Monster 797. Knowing how the decal was applied to the tank (before or after the clear coat) is critical to how the decal should be removed! Using E10 will likely not immediately damage your engine but used continuously it may. It is wise to run the manufacturers recommend octane and never lug the engine. I would expect your Bonnie to run properly after repair and wouldn't settle for less. Best Regards, Dan
Yes
Does seem odd ?
Just recovering from surgery and watched how you painstakingly read out the word “Riumph” 😂 My stitches nearly split open with laughing!
couple of things mate...don't tank a charged fuel tank into your flat, cover that positive terminal a bit better..and you sadly will see some of the missing lacquer as your new badge won't cover it
Please tell me you and Monika are making those jackets you are wearing lately
I love them !!
And if you are I’ll buy one!
One tip - if you want to spend the admittedly sizeable amount of money - that headlight bucket would accommodate a 7 inch JW Speaker 8790 adaptive LED headlight reflector. They're also approved for use on the road. The adaptive lights turn on extra lights on the sides when you lean to light up the side of the road which helps a ton in the corners. They also have a vastly better low and high beam than the glorified candle that Triumph stuck on their bikes, seeing that yellow light in the video made me think of it. The install job is super easy - remove the chrome trim ring, detach the old reflector, attach the new reflector, plug in the cables and reattach the chrome trim ring (and reflector) and say hello to a super bright headlight. Of course they have a very distinctive look that might not please everyone on a classic style bike. A Truck-lite 27270c 7-incher looks a lot more "normal", though it would require a thicker trim ring since it protrudes a bit more. But putting a JW Speaker headlight on my Triumph was a game changer for night riding.
Love the photos. Look forward to seeing what becomes of the book project.
Marigold gloves!! If I didn't know better.....
Very enjoyable video Freddie, good luck with de-badging the “Ryumph”! Look forward to seeing the classic badges on soon. Anthony
Freddie, I ride a 2015 Triumph America, as you likely know the exact same engine as your T100. I’m from Canada but I ordered a set of slip on pipes from your countryman at Maverick Customs and have deleted the AIS. I can say that as far as the tone of the exhaust note and the performance of the bike itself this is definitely the way to go and you should give that a try. It will transform your experience to something more raw and visceral, what a Triumph should be.
Hi Freddie. I've now got a Triumph Tiger 955i and absolutely love it. You know what makes me laugh though is when this bike first came out all the reviews said it was far too heavy as an off road bike. It's 214kg !! Look at the latest adventure bikes 225 245kg etc far heavier than mine. Looking forward to the lanes around Wales next year and the NC500 😊
Just in case you aren't aware, make sure you have good batery and full charge. These motors are very prone to destroying the spray clutch. Now depending on what model you have, that could mean a complete engine removal. And like Freddie I lost a whole summer because Triumph did not have any parts. Good luck
@@flexywingdo you mean the sprag clutch?
@@clayfarnet970 Yes I do, auto correct! Thanks
You do worry me at times Freddie. Battery negative terminal first and last when disconnecting and reconnecting. Petrol tank in the house and heating it up? Not sure that's a good idea. A d cutting around the tank badges with a knife? Surely that'll rust now? You could almost stick the badges on top of the originals? Not sure why the bike is down on power has it got new piston rings and got to be run in? Should be already on power? And E5 is ideally what you should use anyway.
This could end in tears
You made a mistake cutting into the clear coat and black paint.
Even if you don't realize, but while working with such a sharp tool you're going all the way to the steel surface of the tank.
Once you wash the bike or it starts to rain it'll rust underneath the new badge 📛
What I do in cases like this, which is a pretty cheap, fast and effective solution is: getting an identical colored vinyl sticker, cut to the shape of the old badge, cover it up and then glue the new badge on it.
That way you don't damage the factory paint and if you ever decide to go back to the original design you just remove the new badge and remove the vinyl without any residue.
I mounted most of my Gopro mounts like that on my bikes and helmets because I didn't wanna compromise the beautiful factory paint.
You need a heat gun to get the badges off but it will look a shocker if you don’t get the tank reclear coated
Why didn't you just stick it over the top of the sticker with number plate tape? Then you could return to standard if you wanted. Black tape underneath would cover any overlap.
Blown away constantly by both your content and editing skills, ye are really a dream team. Looking forward to the new products but it’s unbelievably good to have your Riumph back on the road 😅 I think this was one of the best videos ye have produced. A Masterclass 👏🏻
I just always watch and smile and end up still smiling. Thanks guys. Good luck with the badge. I winced when you started cutting in (ok...winced and smiled?)...gawd. Brave.
Ride the bike in 2nd and 3rd gear for a while, high revs will get it running right. The cakes look great we don’t get real cream in Ontario Canada🇨🇦😎
Freddie, that bread you cut looked just like a water bear (Tardigrade) 😂
oh, and E5 petrol always. E10 has way too much ethanol and rots plastic and rubber...of which all your important pipes are made of....
Freddie you strike me as a “heavy handed” home mechanic, so probably best to let Monika handle the decal work. Looking forward to the stories book and even more so for The Libertatia!
Normally if you de badge a lacquered over badge you would d a sand the badge off, re paint and lacquer the tank. Good luck with the way your doing it
Freddie, why the marigolds when doing the tank job?
Where you trying to protect your hands from possible petrol spills?
I am not skilled in the way of resprays or bodywork but the tank will need a bit of refinishing otherwise you might see lines showing through from the previous Triumph graphics?
Would very much like to see the finished product perhaps later in another video....👍
Oh Freddie you're such a clutch, what other possible outcome was there ever going to be. I agree about that jacket, hideous 😊
When I was taking the vinyl stripes off my campervan, I used freshly-boiled water trickled over the bit I was peeling. The advantage with using boiling water is that it never gets hotter than 100°C, so you won't scorch the paint.
Glad you've got the Bonnie back to some sort of working order. Here's hoping you don't need to replace any new Triumph parts or you could be off the road for another 5 months.
Freddie, you’re missing a bolt on the rack (under the seat). Just incase you didn’t already know. Love watching your vids btw 😂
Great to see you both back on the Bonnie, it's taken you on a lot of adverntures, I can't see you ever getting rid of it. Good to see you spending some money on it to keep it going. You clearly love it. All the best with the book
Love your chilled out content but I have to say cutting through clear coat with a Stanley knife is a terrible idea.
Freddie I have a helmet lock with a 4 digit combination it’s a game changer and that lock you are using would be through my back wheel. Please do it before your bike gets taken.
Hi Freddie. I've ridden & owned just about everything, over many years.
But I totally agree with you about the Triumph Bonneville. I have the same model as yours, which I acquired back in 2017, & I love this bike above all others.
Keep up the good work...
I had a similar problem with my bike, Yamaha FZ1, (not running very well). Tried premium fuel (helped for 10 km), changing spark plugs (helped for 10 km), ignition coils (helped for 10 km) and then the workshop found out there was water in the tank, runs perfectly now.
Could you have not stuck the new badges over the old without removing them? Id also worry now that as you've broken the laquer that water will get underneath and cause it to peel.
Just need to apply a cost of lacker where the badge is removed from
I couldn't help but keep saying "Don't do it Freddie!" Your braver than me 🙂
Ohhhhh Freddie, what a great video! You make me want a Riumph sooooo bad. But could I ever sell my beloved Sportster? Yes, I think I could. If I could find a nice used Street Twin with proper spoke wheels, I'd probably be a goner. Such great bikes. Oh, and I love that you include Monika in your videos.) Keep up the good work :-)
Tip bud, take the fuel out for safety, swill with water, and then go at it with a heat gun. Or the proper way is ten minutes with a masked off angle grinder and take it down the resprayer
To remove a stuck on badge, providing it has some sort of soft backing, I've used a thin guitar string. Gently move/pull it under the badge untill it comes of. Heating with a heat gun first will help
Been a long time since I had a bike with a carburetor. Injection is so great, the bike always runs perfectly (well.. or not at all).
I'm assuming, that as you're trying to cut around the decal, that the new badge is bigger, or you would risk seeing cut marks. If this is the case, leave the decals, purchase some numberplate sticky pads and fit your new Triumph bages overtop.
My Super Meteor badges started coming off, couple of sticky pads later, job done. 👍
...Good luck with the bike in any case. I hope that nothing else goes wrong that Triumph can't replace. Safe riding
Ahhh.....i remember my first Riumph ! Classic precursor to the Triumph. 😀
Cool to see the GPZ1000RX as the last bike of the photo montage of the video. That was my first bike after passing my test: yep, I went from the Honda H100 (100cc) which I took my test on, to the Kawasaki GPZ1000RX. Great days,.
Great stuff again Freddie, but why not stick the new over the old and touch up the visible remainder with a bit of black nail varnish…..Ride safe.
Glad to see you back on you Ruimph!
God bless you Fredster. Having a go. I prefer to get my local mechanic for all this r type of work.
You can't beat the look of those old Riumph's
Hey Freddie and Monika. Great to see the Bonneville back on the road. Looking good and I’m sure you will get the exhaust sound back to normal after running in. Cheers and ride safe. Dan ✌️🏍🇨🇦
Freddie make it a twin exhaust estética lot better 👍😂. Just saying 😂
Did you win the bet...... That must be the only reason you are wearing that jacket❤
I needed cheering up today... thanks Freddie. You'll get your Onneville just right one day.
We have a kercher steamer one of it's nozzles provides a high intensity jet of steam I bet something like that would strip that sticker off without damaging the paint on the tank.
Freddie, did your bike sound bad before it went into the mechanics? If not, then it's likely that it's making the noise because of the head removal and replacement - which would of course mean the exhaust was removed and replaced. Are you sure it's not just a leak where the pipes meet the head? Loose nuts, or the exhaust gaskets needing replacing (unlike your head gasket, exhaust gaskets are readily available and cheap).
Also, you're a braver man than me attacking your tank with a Stanley knife!
Have fun on the 'riumph'. 🙂
Nice to have the bonneville (or Riumph ) back even if the sound is terrible , I’ve got a street twin and even with stock exhausts the sound is fabulous
Holbrook woods ?
Good new bike friendly American style dinner .
At Ofton Limburners.
On road from Bramford to Needham market.
I was half expecting a fireball in your flat? How did you know that no petrol vapours were going to be set off by the hairdryer? Most people empty out their tank then let it air out before buggering around with heat applications- you might want to rethink that manoeuvre next time? Stay safe and keep wearing the mini-ha-ha jacket when touring Ipswich
"Riumph" sounds like a bike for Scooby Doo.
Please do not attach the wiring to your battery directly, as creeping current from the USB port will drain it within a mo time. The sensible thing to do is to put the wiring behing a fuse, so that it only holds current when the ignition is set to on.
Great video. Can't wait for The Lost Biker Stories...
I assume that you have to take the original sticker off because it would protrude past the new badge and be seen, otherwise you would just put the new badge over the old one, but what are you going to do with the damaged area that will protrude past the new badge?
I thought the same thing, also the new badge will hide most of the old one, therefore he could get away with just removing the small piece the old badge badge that isn’t covered by the new one.
@@richardbains5 true, there’s usually only one way to do theses things, rub it down and respray, or in other words the “right way”, but hey Freddie is only young and we all have to learn, I’ve made many cock ups over the years and learnt from them, now it’s Freddie’s turn 😉
Good thinking 🤔
@@1234567marks He's 37 .
@@1mikefrost blimey, no excuses then! 🙂
Actually it’s clear that he has little mechanical or practical knowledge, but that said nobody is born with it!, so given time and the inclination I’m sure he’ll get up to speed 😁👍
I like the existing Triumph logos. This raised plastic ones would look odd on your bike.
Freddie if the engine is running lumpy it's because the engine has been appart and the carbs or injectors need balancing or valve clearance is wrong no amount of e5 fuel will sort it ima 👍
Fuel injection on a 10 plate.
I guess these things are subjective but I prefer the sticker to those old triumph badges.
You're one brave dude, Freddie! I'm nervous even when removing those annoying warning stickers that come attached to the tank on a new motorcycle.
Hairdryer and white spirit. Done loads.
Arggh. Why, Feddie, why? lol. The badges even match the patina of the manifold. - the first cuts were painful to watch. 😅 Granted your other projects are exciting.
Ah my favorite brand, Riumph
Tried running my enfield on e10. Ran like a bag of spanners. Won't put anything but e5 in the tank now. Sounds like a gasket is blowing slightly on tick over.
The first comment bragging rights, grabbed!
Bastard!
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Love your videos. You guys are great :-)
I love your content....
but Freddie....,Please..,Please ..PLEASE replace that front mudguard with a stock one...😢
Had to reach for double strength heart tablets during that tank de badging technique.
Your channel is compulsive viewing I just love it.❤😊