im sorry to break it to you, but this are not affordable cars for a lot of ppl. red sport starts at 63k, add tax and APR and its a 70k car, that is not affordable for most, imo.
I always forget how fast Qs are for the money. When you consider that the Q60 is a much larger, much more practical everyday car than the full-on sports car Supra, it just makes it even more impressive. Now if only they would update the infotainment system...
@@vq37zu it's a huge improvement, and because Infiniti was one of the first to fully adopt touch screen interfaces it works really naturally, but there's still the lingering issue of the badly aging lower screen/interface and the multifunction screen in the gauge cluster.
I agree in person it's a gorgeous car such ashamed though its performance doesn't match its looks....its a transmission and an interior update short of being great
I love how simple but also detailed are your videos, no huge intros with irrelevant bla bla bla like other channels do, you give us 360 shots, detailed specs written on the screen and boom straight to the races.you deserve way more subscribers and supporters
Nissan and Infiniti should pare the weight on all their cars starting with GTR.to all the Supra lovers this car is the product of German superior tech mated to ugly design by TOY-OTA.
@UCSrzOQKpwtUUE4w0PHSEZqg german superior tech my ass, and it still cant push as much power as the 2j supra. The q60 is a fat bitch, there should be no way it can keep up with a lightweight sports car like the supra.
I like that you disclosed the mods for the INFINITI to us. It is fine comparing the stock Supra with the modded INFINITI as long as you tell us exactly what has been done to the car.
50 more horsepower wouldn't be worth stating. These cars always have different horsepower when compared. Its about comparing a certain class against each other. If you had better torque or higher rpms you would still smoke a car with 50 more horse.
@Tristan Tang Bro I've had 17 cars dont tell me I don't know what im talking about. 50 more horses doesn't mean jack shit. 300 horse and 350 horse is damn near the same. Only transmission and torque and revvs will decide. Example when they compare cars you can clearly watch cars with less horsepower smoke cars with more. Why is that u think? Ohhhhh transmission and torque. Low horsepower cars are made with high rpms as well which makes for low end power. Ha ...what else must I enlighten you on? Hmmmmmm
The match up's we never asked for, but love lol. never think to want two see these go against each other. Great RUclips channel and content, Great work!
I'm an M2 owner now but I used to have a Q60 for 3 years and I did everything full bolt ons from AMS, with a carbon Fast Intensions exhaust. Made just shy of 500hp on pump fuel with 5k in mods on a 32k car used with low miles. Ran 11s consistently. The VR30 is an absolute beast of an engine, however you don't get to experience the engines full potential with its weight and lacking transmission. The new Z will definitely fix all these problems for the people that truly about that driver experience, and it will come with a carbon driveshaft.
I can’t wait for the NISMO version of the 400z to drop. The car it’s self is to be announced officially on AUG. 17th. Should drop around early 2022 and I’m hoping the NISMO is shortly after and I’m already ready to buy they just need to say when.
@@milkofthepuppy Nismo would be at best around 9 to 12 months after. Should start hearing news towards end of this year Hopefully. If sales go crazy fully expect Nissan to capitalise on that and release the Nismo with a bigger bump in power. A minimum of 25hp as theyre always conservative. Personally id push to 500hp and 20 inch wheels. GTR front brakes with drilled/grooved discs as standard with GTR brakes all round as an upgrade option. Towards end of production id experiment with an all wheel drive option as Toyota are doing a final end of life GRMN version with M3 engine possibly in 2025
@@blademanx man an all wheel drive 400z NISMO would be effin dirty!! Also agreed with the time line on the NISMO I’m waiting and I’ve got my ear to the ground for sure. When I do get the car the only thing I will add is whatever tune is available. Which I’ve seen a few already they’re saying tested on the Q60 will be available not long after release. I was just watching a RUclips channel where these guys were testing this stuff and talking about the differences between the Q60 an 400z. Just making sure this will be a VR32 motor right?
My license plates says baby getter “BABYGTR”bc it’s an outback SW LOL. If they release an all wheel drive NISMO 400z I’m just transferring my license plates over🤙
Thank you for this!! As soon as I seen the title I clicked on it immediately! When it comes to some of the RUclips channels yours is hands down one of the best I look forward to when you post videos!! It's not just supercars it's actually cars that I see on the day-to-day basis.
@@vincenttang1171 from what I’ve read they can handle 500-600whp on stock bottom end (~600-750 crank), but the weak link is the rods/rod bearings not the block. Block should be good for near 800whp. Problem is, I’m not sure either trans on the upcoming Z can handle more than 600whp. I definitely wouldn’t want to deal with the Q60’s trans either.
@@n9athan The new Z transmission should be able to handle 600whp easily. It's going to be a ZF9 transmission. We already know what those ZF trans are capable of.
Where did you get 600lb from? And yes everyone knows BMW dogs their HP rating, while Nissan over inflates theirs. Sam probably should have titled it . TUNED Q60.
@@nickmotsarsky4382 apparently Sam did because he was shocked that the Supra won so easily. If both cars were identical horsepower and torque, the Supra was still going to win. Why did he think it would be any different?
I knew it'd be close because of the AWD but it's the inline-6 with lower RPM torque and the fact that it has 18 more pounds of it, not to mention the 600 pounds less weight. The launch of that AWD is still impressive and I'd like to see if that 20 more HP could catch back up in the long run.
I can't understand why Sam sounds so surprised..."That's gotta be more than 382 hp!" There is a 600+ lb weight difference. Less than 9 lbs/HP vs 10 lbs/HP. The Supra is going to pull every time once it hooks up. The new Z will be lighter so it should be more interesting
@@Teebxv Incorrect. Every manufacturer rates HP at the crank, not at the wheel. Granted BMWs (the Supra) are often underrated by the factory, so that Supra is likely making 400+ hp at the crank and about 10-15% less at the wheel
In my opinion it would of been a better race both cars rwd. The Q60 weight is 627 over the Supra. BMW’s have always been a strong cars on the high end and the Supra has inherited that! Smaller, lighter, a much better transmission, so I’m not surprised with the outcome!! Still, I have a Q60S RS and I would not get off it to get into a Supra! But the Supra/BMW is a good car! Was looking forward to this comparison!! Thanks!!
I like how Hussein brake boosts, you can tell when he'd getting off the line in the Supra his rear tire is already spinning in some cases. The almost 700 lb difference from the specs of both cars means that Q60 has more grip off the line but PWR means Supra wins every time. Very interesting race, I agree with Sam Supra is not stating it's hot correctly. The race map definitely helps in the roll but so did taking away the inertia for the Q60.
The supras just roll out. The Q60S is AWD, that's why it hooks. Also the 8 speed in the supra is a much better shifting and better geared trans than the 7 speed Q60S
The Q60 is a beautiful car. I would of thought that disclosing the information about the mods to the Infiniti would have helped with what we were seeing...(the guy driving the Q60 yelling saying he couldn't believe it). However, before the disclosing the data, I thought the information that was at the beginning of the video (car weight, power torque) it all made sense. Supra 600lb lighter and higher Torque figure too, of course the Supra was eventually going to go past, its just normal physics and math. Any car guy would recognise that. The AWD is what helps it get all that grunt to the ground, again why the Infiniti was ahead at the beginning of the race. Can't wait for the Z! Go Nissan!
The Red sport is still funded differently and it has the sport+ drive mode which allows it to rev at a higher RPM then the regular sport map I’ve seen the Red sport stock beat supras before.
I’ve seen stock 21 GRs on the dyno putting down 380 at the wheels what they claim at the flywheel, that with the 600+ lb weight difference is why Supra catches, but that awd Q is quick from a dig.
The weight is what kills the infiniti on the high end. But in my opinion its by far the better car. Much more daily driver practical. Nicer interior, quieter ride.
You guys are crazy, I’d definitely take a Toyota/bmw over a Nissan/Infiniti everyday and any day of the year. I own both and the quality difference is out of the water
@@eVerProductions1 Toyota engines last forever. BMW engines last just long enough for the warranty to expire. Then every part costs roughly the value of the vehicle. Nissan V6s are proven to be bulletproof.
@@boost331 the new VR30s aren't bulletproof. Myself and countless other people have had nothing but problems with them ranging from 2015-2019 models that were all brand new and followed factory service guidelines. Their old engines were great though
@@shad3128 Like what? I know the turbos are a common failure once you tune and take them out of their efficiency range. They are small and undersized to begin with.
That new 400Z better have it's A game on against that Supra ZF 8 speed automatic that transmission is top shelf. Stick shifts no chance from the dig drag race
@@MeowMochi3 well if you want to be more specific it’s a joint chassis development between EDM & JDM. So supra is on Toyota platform shows because supra on a slightly longer , narrower & shorter (vertical height) body than it’s less sportier brother Z4.
It will be VERY interesting to see how the 2022 or 2023 new 9 speed transmission the Z gets will improve performance in this as well. I hope for Nissan that it is bullet proof. Both of these cars are 🔥. The premium sound systems in the Q60s are beyond incredible from the factory.
Lighter, less drivetrain loss (rwd vs AWD) and much faster shifts on the 9sp give me hope that it will put up some very respectable numbers. Consider the fact there is already lots of aftermarket for the vr30 thanks to infinity and the GTR... Good things ahead for sure.
Great video. I had questions about the tune on the q. The q owner did add a comment here to clear that up. So really this is a tuned q vs a factory supra. Not apples to apples in my opinion.
I was hoping for stock Q60s / Skyline V37 vs stock Skyline GT-R R34 (only up to Nur trim, not CRS or even Z-Tune trim) the reason is while some always says R35 is successor of R34, but it's more like separate line now, however Skyline line-up is still exist albeit no GT-R trim anymore will be interesting to see how far improvement between Skyline V37 compare to Skyline R34
That engine retuned in the Z proto is going to hurt some feelings. If the Z is as light as 3400 lbs, i m hoping it is, it will be a blast to drive with a manual transmission. The reveal is coming in a week or two.
the 400z will not be any much lighter than the q60. I read reports that they aren't spending any money on new platforms so it will be as heavy if not heavier than the 370z
That’s exactly why I was gonna comment. The guy driving the Q says he shouldn’t be losing cuz he has 400hp vs 382hp but he doesn’t even consider the power to weight ratio the supra has. It’s a 600lb difference. 18hp more is never gonna make up for that weight difference. I’m impressed the Q did so well to begin with. But In the end, there’s always a price to pay for having all wheel drive.
The red sport 400 and normal "silver" sport versions of the Q50/Q60 have the same engine and turbos, just the red sport has more boost and an upgraded cooling system. I've seen posts claiming that the normal sport has one turbo while the red sport has a twin turbo, and posts about the red sport having different turbos compared to the normal sport version...this is just to clear up some confusion about that. All Q50/Q60 models have a 3.0L twin turbo with a 7-speed automatic transmission (2016-2021). Older 2014-2015 Q50's had the 3.7L NA engine. And the Q60's of those years were basically rebadged G37's.
Despite them both being coupes, they're not even in the same class. The supra is a very nimble and low sports car, the Q is a comfortable luxury cruiser that just so happens to be alright in the corners.
@@GR_FOURRARIS You might want to wait until the car comes out before making such statements. It's highly unlikely that the new Z is "blowing the doors off" the Supra.
@@GR_FOURRARIS Your definition of "blow doors off" and mine must be vastly different. It MIGHT be faster, but that hardly qualified as "blown doors." It would need a significantly more powerful engine for that. 400-450 won't get it done.
@@darrell9616 I stand corrected "blow the doors off" was deff an overstatement. I really just meant it was gonna be an overall better package IMO. Price, performance, plus looks(subjective I know) and the fact that a manual(for me very important) will be an option on the new Z. I know the Supra is great car and I accept that but as a poor person I look forward to the Z being a cheaper alternative. Even if the supra came in a manual i would not be able to afford it at $51K i could go for 2.0 with manual but still no word on whether it will be an option.
Im really surprised that for a car that is 600 pounds lighter the Supra did not win by much. 600 pounds! It's like the Q60 had 4 or 5 grown adults sitting inside while racing the Supra. VERY impressive for the q60.
What are you talking about?.😂 are you seriously comparing a AWD vs RWD? Of course the AWD will always have the advantage on a dragged race 😂 thats why these morons didn’t do nothing but one roll race cause they know the supra woulda smoked it in a roll race.
@@donovanowens8owens I doubt it. They'll be close. The Z will be lighter than the Sup, but the Sup realistically has 440bhp. Also, manual vs auto (auto always shifts quicker).
Since you're featuring tuned cars how about a matchup of a 3.3T Hyundai tuned with all bolt ons vs. a 3.0T Q50 tuned with all available bolt ons, or at the very least, the same bolt ons on each car?
You have to understand the HP on paper for both cars is not exactly the same, that B58 in Supra makes more power to the wheel than the Infiniti, plus on top of that Infiniti is AWD car that results in even more raw power loss at the drivetrain. So in reality that Supra makes 400+ at the wheel while Infinity makes 400 on paper, thats the difference. There are forums you can read of guys taking their B58 BMWs and Supras to the Dyno test and they make 60 - 100 hp more than what the number is on paper. Just so you know.
Exactly the 600lbs of weight is a huge difference maker. Also add to that an 8spd gear box vs 7spd. I awould not be surprised if the gear ratio's on the first 4 gears are lower on the Supra then the Infiniti. Lastly the shift speed on the Infiniti is very slow compared to the ZF on the Supra. I own a Q50 and an BMW with the ZF 8spd and the ZF is vastly superior to the Infiniti transmission when it comes to shift speeds. The infiniti's is smoother on shifts however.
Hey awesome race! I've got a tuned Q50 3.0t with some goodies on it and just love it. Great video. Off to smash the subscribe button and hit the like....
@@coobydon3093 yes I do .. and yes it will (if it’s stock) but I have a few mods (injen in-takes, ARK cat back exhaust and a few minor adds) still trying to find a tune to get it above 400hp but still have faith in ole Hydie 🤺🤺🤺
@@theshepherd6997 all that mods n u still ain't crack 400 bro naah something aint right bro you should've already touching 400 cause hybrid S already has 360 hp off the back
The transmission on the supra is what really makes a difference here and I know cause I have a 21 and you don't need 5k in mods to turn it into a street monster.
This right here! I have a 17 Q60 3.0t and yes, aside from the weight difference which is true. The ZF transmission in the Supra is top notch! It’s quick shifting, great gearing, and always ready to go. The automatic transmission on the Q60s are decently quick on shifting, but my main issue(in sport mode) is how slow it takes to react when you floor it while cruising. When I floor it, it will downshift once then almost a second later downshift again into optimal rpms and then go. In the Supra tho, you floor it and it will quickly shift to where it needs to be and it’s gone.
@@Mario_RX7 guys saying is all WEIGHT DIFFERENCE have no idea how good this supra transmission is,this is my 1st automatic and I'm so surprised,is super quick and shifts are very smooth.
Just had a stage 1 remap performed on my Supra. Pushing out 440bhp. When it shifts from 1st to second, the wheels spin!. Tuning dude stated it will be undriveable with a stage 2 tune and downpipe . 650bhp + through the rear wheels means it's fighting for traction.
I'd take the Supra for sure, the gearbox alone is from a different planet! I'd just love to have a targa top on it + a fighter jet styled dashboard n I'm all set! on and of course the sauce ( 6spd )
Proper diet for the q60 Rear seat delete, Carbon race seats, maybe some more unneeded things in the car you’ll be good. I own a 2018 Q60 RA500 puttin my Q on a diet as we speak
@@vroomgc only due to the huge weight difference, but I'm sure the Nissan Z with the same engine and lighter weight will be up to the task. This race isn't apples to apples.
The infiniti is 600 lbs heavier. The supra is a proper sports car. The infiniti is luxury sports. The real race will be with the new Z. Can't wait for that video.
For a company that knows how to pull off the sporty and the luxury without compromising reliability not one bit, that q60 looks like the winner to me. Close race and I can only imagine what that q60 could do if it was lighter, and it had all the upgraded parts from the red sport 400
Not just the races we wanted but that we needed, I’m tired of seeing those super car battles, nah, cars that most people can afford. Love this channel
im sorry to break it to you, but this are not affordable cars for a lot of ppl. red sport starts at 63k, add tax and APR and its a 70k car, that is not affordable for most, imo.
@@floggyWM1 well, but it’s more affordable than a 400k lambo right
@@briansantos4637 400k lambo is more affordable than a bugatti, right?
If you want cars ppl can afford let's a 2013 Ford Taurus vs 2011 Kia Sonata
@@floggyWM1 yes indeed
I always forget how fast Qs are for the money. When you consider that the Q60 is a much larger, much more practical everyday car than the full-on sports car Supra, it just makes it even more impressive. Now if only they would update the infotainment system...
I got one and man u are right about that. Also hope infinity change that 7bspeed like they are doing with the 2022 infinity qx50 with a nine speed.
newer infinitis come with AA/CP so you don't have to deal with it
@@justgodwise7873 thank god. That transmission is old! Still a sweatheart thou. It came out on the 2008 Infinity M35S rear wheel drive.
@@vq37zu it's a huge improvement, and because Infiniti was one of the first to fully adopt touch screen interfaces it works really naturally, but there's still the lingering issue of the badly aging lower screen/interface and the multifunction screen in the gauge cluster.
@@DiaperSNiFFER to be honest I haven't heard anything about the Q50 and q60 future yet so ?????
I don’t care how much times the Q60S Wins or Loses, it’s one of the most Beautiful Cars! I would LOVE to own for a daily driver
I agree in person it's a gorgeous car such ashamed though its performance doesn't match its looks....its a transmission and an interior update short of being great
@@ftr911drvr it’s performance isn’t bad it’s just the Supra is faster easy as that and the vr30 motor is very tuneable
@@ftr911drvr base model q50 3.0t with a jb4 on map 2 on 93 beats a supra
@@bbg9458 and so is the supra lol,they are meant to be tuned.
For real though idc about the interior that exterior is 😍
I love how simple but also detailed are your videos, no huge intros with irrelevant bla bla bla like other channels do, you give us 360 shots, detailed specs written on the screen and boom straight to the races.you deserve way more subscribers and supporters
Thank you!
@@SamCarLegion and also replying to all comments makes you even amazing 👏
When I saw the Q60 curb weight I was like OUCH, it's over already LOL
Nissan and Infiniti should pare the weight on all their cars starting with GTR.to all the Supra lovers this car is the product of German superior tech mated to ugly design by TOY-OTA.
@UCSrzOQKpwtUUE4w0PHSEZqg german superior tech my ass, and it still cant push as much power as the 2j supra. The q60 is a fat bitch, there should be no way it can keep up with a lightweight sports car like the supra.
On a straight line, it's not a good thing, but at curves they are.... more stability... and the AWD compliments it.
It's all physics & aerodynamics
exactly
@@onYTsince2008 weight is never good…
I like that you disclosed the mods for the INFINITI to us. It is fine comparing the stock Supra with the modded INFINITI as long as you tell us exactly what has been done to the car.
50 more horsepower wouldn't be worth stating. These cars always have different horsepower when compared. Its about comparing a certain class against each other. If you had better torque or higher rpms you would still smoke a car with 50 more horse.
@@pfwww12 horsepower throughout the rev range is literally the only thing that matters. Torque times revs is the definition of horsepower.
.. better torque and higher rpms = more hp
except he wasnt running on the tuned map until the roll race
@Tristan Tang Bro I've had 17 cars dont tell me I don't know what im talking about. 50 more horses doesn't mean jack shit. 300 horse and 350 horse is damn near the same. Only transmission and torque and revvs will decide. Example when they compare cars you can clearly watch cars with less horsepower smoke cars with more. Why is that u think? Ohhhhh transmission and torque. Low horsepower cars are made with high rpms as well which makes for low end power. Ha ...what else must I enlighten you on? Hmmmmmm
The match up's we never asked for, but love lol. never think to want two see these go against each other. Great RUclips channel and content, Great work!
us q60 owners really wanted to see this...everytime I have lined up with a new supra at the stop light I am driving my wifes QX80 ugh
I'm an M2 owner now but I used to have a Q60 for 3 years and I did everything full bolt ons from AMS, with a carbon Fast Intensions exhaust. Made just shy of 500hp on pump fuel with 5k in mods on a 32k car used with low miles. Ran 11s consistently. The VR30 is an absolute beast of an engine, however you don't get to experience the engines full potential with its weight and lacking transmission. The new Z will definitely fix all these problems for the people that truly about that driver experience, and it will come with a carbon driveshaft.
What made you get rid of the q60 if you don’t mind me asking ?
I can’t wait for the NISMO version of the 400z to drop. The car it’s self is to be announced officially on AUG. 17th. Should drop around early 2022 and I’m hoping the NISMO is shortly after and I’m already ready to buy they just need to say when.
@@milkofthepuppy Nismo would be at best around 9 to 12 months after. Should start hearing news towards end of this year Hopefully. If sales go crazy fully expect Nissan to capitalise on that and release the Nismo with a bigger bump in power. A minimum of 25hp as theyre always conservative. Personally id push to 500hp and 20 inch wheels. GTR front brakes with drilled/grooved discs as standard with GTR brakes all round as an upgrade option. Towards end of production id experiment with an all wheel drive option as Toyota are doing a final end of life GRMN version with M3 engine possibly in 2025
@@blademanx man an all wheel drive 400z NISMO would be effin dirty!! Also agreed with the time line on the NISMO I’m waiting and I’ve got my ear to the ground for sure. When I do get the car the only thing I will add is whatever tune is available. Which I’ve seen a few already they’re saying tested on the Q60 will be available not long after release. I was just watching a RUclips channel where these guys were testing this stuff and talking about the differences between the Q60 an 400z. Just making sure this will be a VR32 motor right?
My license plates says baby getter “BABYGTR”bc it’s an outback SW LOL. If they release an all wheel drive NISMO 400z I’m just transferring my license plates over🤙
That's was closer than I expected for the Infiniti . Wow.
The Q60S is not a redsport, is a tuned silvers sport.
@@doubled8247 your right. It's the silver sport. And it did quite well against the supra.
Can't wait to see what the new Z will be capable of
@@kevinlester tuned Im not surprised haha. Tuned silversports are at times faster than the Redsport due to the difference in turbos.
@@jeraldhogan that's is definitely one I am looking forward to.
Nearly the same HP but the Supra is 600 pounds lighter and has launch control. No contest.
And german engineering
More like better transmission
Almost 700lbs is insane! Where does the weight come from Infiniti 😑
@@jake2772 it's bigger.
@@philipjohn1338 👀😂🤯
Thank you for this!! As soon as I seen the title I clicked on it immediately! When it comes to some of the RUclips channels yours is hands down one of the best I look forward to when you post videos!! It's not just supercars it's actually cars that I see on the day-to-day basis.
What’s crazy about the VR30DDTT is how much power they can handle it’s such a great engine I can’t wait to see what I can do when I buy the 400z
Damn shame that their V8 engine is in a heavy ass vehicle that's not meant to be driven for drag. But that V8 in the q60 and it would be legendary.
The vr30 is an open deck. Without serious engine upgrades these engines can only run 500-600hp max and they will still blow up with continued use.
@@vincenttang1171 from what I’ve read they can handle 500-600whp on stock bottom end (~600-750 crank), but the weak link is the rods/rod bearings not the block. Block should be good for near 800whp. Problem is, I’m not sure either trans on the upcoming Z can handle more than 600whp. I definitely wouldn’t want to deal with the Q60’s trans either.
@@n9athan The new Z transmission should be able to handle 600whp easily. It's going to be a ZF9 transmission. We already know what those ZF trans are capable of.
The new 400Z is a 9 speed transmission Not the ZF 8 speed.
Did you forget that the Infiniti is 600 lbs heavier? Also, there are numerous dyno videos of the Supra showing that it puts down 370+ to the wheels.
2021 puts down 394whp over 416+tq wtq
Where did you get 600lb from? And yes everyone knows BMW dogs their HP rating, while Nissan over inflates theirs. Sam probably should have titled it . TUNED Q60.
@@jamesmin2837 if the Supra was tuned that q50 tuned vs tuned had 0 chances not even dig lol 😂
@@nickmotsarsky4382 apparently Sam did because he was shocked that the Supra won so easily. If both cars were identical horsepower and torque, the Supra was still going to win. Why did he think it would be any different?
@@nickmotsarsky4382 oh yes they do. Check dyno numbers on the Q50 400. Way under 400hp.
Sam is killing it with these amazing match ups! Looking forward to this!
The back angle of these two cars hits hard. 🔥
It's times like this, when a dyno session or 1/4 mile measured times with both cars would bring that extra oomph
You're absolutely right. They should Dyno these exact car now.
I would like to see the Infiniti Q70s 5.6 or Infiniti M56s vs Infiniti Q60s be good match
q70 is just too big and heavy,
its not even a race lol
@@q6_zilla just be nice and interesting to see. Watching this video i knew supra was going win but was interesting to watch
The Q70 V8 was damn fast for being a big fat luxury sedan. Pretty sad that Infiniti discontinued it.
I knew it'd be close because of the AWD but it's the inline-6 with lower RPM torque and the fact that it has 18 more pounds of it, not to mention the 600 pounds less weight. The launch of that AWD is still impressive and I'd like to see if that 20 more HP could catch back up in the long run.
Been waiting patiently for this one
Now wait until the new Z arrives with the Q60 motor! It will put a serious hurt on the Supra.
Exactly. The Infiniti luxuries are added weight to this platform. The new 400Z will be a better match for the Supra
@@ramboslice5154 Also, the Z will be RWD so you lose the extra weight of the AWD system.
No it will not 😂😂🤡
Bruh it’s like you guys don’t know basic math smh the 400z will still lose stock vs stock against the 2021 Supra smh
@@vonksummer9099 So, where is the manual version of the Supra at? Oh wait, there isn't one. Z wins 🏆
🎤 drop
I can't understand why Sam sounds so surprised..."That's gotta be more than 382 hp!" There is a 600+ lb weight difference. Less than 9 lbs/HP vs 10 lbs/HP. The Supra is going to pull every time once it hooks up. The new Z will be lighter so it should be more interesting
The new Z already lost to the Supra.
The supra is rated whp rather than crank whereas the q60/q50/z are rated crank hp. If the supra was rated at the crank it would be around 430hp.
@@Teebxv Incorrect. Every manufacturer rates HP at the crank, not at the wheel. Granted BMWs (the Supra) are often underrated by the factory, so that Supra is likely making 400+ hp at the crank and about 10-15% less at the wheel
@@seann7943 I guess that’s why Toyota has ‘21 supra at 382hp but dyno at 388hp?
@@seann7943 nvm I see your point. Being that the car is rated at the crank.
You can get a mild piggyback tune for under a grand and make 420 to the wheels in the Q. Love that car! The Supra is great too.
BMW engines' power is always underrated.
You mean "Toyota power figures are always underrated" 😉
Aye tis the case with this past generation of Infiniti engines, both make their power closer to the wheel but its something BMW is more known for.
Lmao
BMW are horrible
2:00 “oh my goodness I am gone” he’s only a 3/4s of a car length ahead lol
Great video. That extra 650 lbs of weight made somewhat a difference. I own a Q60. Can't wait for the next gen Q60.
They are not makign q60s anymore
@@joshofthesaints they are in 4 years bud
@honestreview169 Source? Havent seen any reliable sources that confirms this. Its being discounted in favor of SUV’s and electric vehicles
The Q60S has “luxuries” (weight) that the Supra will never have. Let’s get a match lined up when the 400Z arrives 😏
The 400z will still lose nigga 😂😂😂
@@vonksummer9099 how so nigga
Am putting my money on the 400z because it gonna be lighter with the same engine
You guys do know BMW is giving Toyota the last gen M3/M4 engine that makes 400+ hp.
Well that BMW interior still looks better than the luxurious Infiniti.
In my opinion it would of been a better race both cars rwd. The Q60 weight is 627 over the Supra. BMW’s have always been a strong cars on the high end and the Supra has inherited that! Smaller, lighter, a much better transmission, so I’m not surprised with the outcome!! Still, I have a Q60S RS and I would not get off it to get into a Supra! But the Supra/BMW is a good car! Was looking forward to this comparison!! Thanks!!
I got my 2017 q60rs a couple months ago for 35k…cheapest used GR Supra around me is 50k
I like how Hussein brake boosts, you can tell when he'd getting off the line in the Supra his rear tire is already spinning in some cases. The almost 700 lb difference from the specs of both cars means that Q60 has more grip off the line but PWR means Supra wins every time. Very interesting race, I agree with Sam Supra is not stating it's hot correctly. The race map definitely helps in the roll but so did taking away the inertia for the Q60.
The supras just roll out. The Q60S is AWD, that's why it hooks. Also the 8 speed in the supra is a much better shifting and better geared trans than the 7 speed Q60S
"He's got me, Damn that supra"😂😂
The Q60 is a beautiful car. I would of thought that disclosing the information about the mods to the Infiniti would have helped with what we were seeing...(the guy driving the Q60 yelling saying he couldn't believe it). However, before the disclosing the data, I thought the information that was at the beginning of the video (car weight, power torque) it all made sense. Supra 600lb lighter and higher Torque figure too, of course the Supra was eventually going to go past, its just normal physics and math. Any car guy would recognise that. The AWD is what helps it get all that grunt to the ground, again why the Infiniti was ahead at the beginning of the race.
Can't wait for the Z! Go Nissan!
The Red sport is still funded differently and it has the sport+ drive mode which allows it to rev at a higher RPM then the regular sport map I’ve seen the Red sport stock beat supras before.
I’ve seen stock 21 GRs on the dyno putting down 380 at the wheels what they claim at the flywheel, that with the 600+ lb weight difference is why Supra catches, but that awd Q is quick from a dig.
The weight is what kills the infiniti on the high end. But in my opinion its by far the better car. Much more daily driver practical. Nicer interior, quieter ride.
I mean the Supra is just a Toyota at the end of the day the interior isn’t really meant to be luxurious they should’ve put the q60 against a Lexus RC
You guys are crazy, I’d definitely take a Toyota/bmw over a Nissan/Infiniti everyday and any day of the year. I own both and the quality difference is out of the water
@@eVerProductions1 Toyota engines last forever. BMW engines last just long enough for the warranty to expire. Then every part costs roughly the value of the vehicle. Nissan V6s are proven to be bulletproof.
@@boost331 the new VR30s aren't bulletproof. Myself and countless other people have had nothing but problems with them ranging from 2015-2019 models that were all brand new and followed factory service guidelines. Their old engines were great though
@@shad3128 Like what? I know the turbos are a common failure once you tune and take them out of their efficiency range. They are small and undersized to begin with.
The Z is going to be fast being lighter!
And a different turbo set up completely
With an auto yeah, but it won't beat the Supra with a stick.
That new 400Z better have it's A game on against that Supra ZF 8 speed automatic that transmission is top shelf. Stick shifts no chance from the dig drag race
When will people learn that BMW lie about HP. That Supra probably pushing the same amount of HP as the Q60 on a dyno 🤣🤣
Technically they didn't lie, 382hp is to the wheels, q60 is rated 400 to the crank, but we all know you don't get to use that much.
Supra puts in that work boi, but that Q60 was doing good tho no cap both easily tunable to get hella hp 🤌🏾 win win for jdm
Well the other one is a EDM
Owner specified the infiniti was tuned in the comments
@@MeowMochi3 its Toyota chassis thoe
@@MeowMochi3 well if you want to be more specific it’s a joint chassis development between EDM & JDM. So supra is on Toyota platform shows because supra on a slightly longer , narrower & shorter (vertical height) body than it’s less sportier brother Z4.
@@just_a5.7 No it's a bmw
Run a Q50 RS awd vs A 2019+ bmw m340i xdrive. stock for stock or similar mods.
It will be VERY interesting to see how the 2022 or 2023 new 9 speed transmission the Z gets will improve performance in this as well. I hope for Nissan that it is bullet proof. Both of these cars are 🔥. The premium sound systems in the Q60s are beyond incredible from the factory.
Lighter, less drivetrain loss (rwd vs AWD) and much faster shifts on the 9sp give me hope that it will put up some very respectable numbers. Consider the fact there is already lots of aftermarket for the vr30 thanks to infinity and the GTR... Good things ahead for sure.
I have a 9 speed with just a V6 and it's nasty how fast it is and I'm still mostly stock
Great video. I had questions about the tune on the q. The q owner did add a comment here to clear that up. So really this is a tuned q vs a factory supra. Not apples to apples in my opinion.
Tuned Supra on E50 is doing high 10s and traps 126 mph, so that would be fair.
I'm AMAZED the Supra just walks away! I still like the Q60S more though. I might get one.
Supra wins because the infinity too bomboclaat heavy‼️
Yes, and the Supra is more dedicated sports car than luxury sport coupe.
I was hoping for stock Q60s / Skyline V37 vs stock Skyline GT-R R34 (only up to Nur trim, not CRS or even Z-Tune trim)
the reason is while some always says R35 is successor of R34, but it's more like separate line now, however Skyline line-up is still exist albeit no GT-R trim anymore
will be interesting to see how far improvement between Skyline V37 compare to Skyline R34
the Q50/Q60 is a Skyline model in Japan.
That engine retuned in the Z proto is going to hurt some feelings. If the Z is as light as 3400 lbs, i m hoping it is, it will be a blast to drive with a manual transmission. The reveal is coming in a week or two.
But it looks ugly tho
I thought the Supras were dumb looking but I saw one parked the other day and thought it looked alright. Still would buy the Z though.
400Z a Fiat chrysler junk
That means 400Z will be a good match to the Supra
@@kyoakland no...clearly you can see that...
the 400z will not be any much lighter than the q60. I read reports that they aren't spending any money on new platforms so it will be as heavy if not heavier than the 370z
Not to mention the 400 Z will come in a manual An automatic will have a 9 speed transmission
@@kyoakland It won't beat but they'll be close. The Z will have a manual, which is slower than the Supra's auto.
@@vq37zu Why are you spewing bullsh? 🤣 The Z will be 3200-3300 lbs.
It shouldn't be that big of a surprise considering how much more the Q weighs
That’s exactly why I was gonna comment. The guy driving the Q says he shouldn’t be losing cuz he has 400hp vs 382hp but he doesn’t even consider the power to weight ratio the supra has. It’s a 600lb difference. 18hp more is never gonna make up for that weight difference. I’m impressed the Q did so well to begin with. But In the end, there’s always a price to pay for having all wheel drive.
The difference is the weight of the vehicles! It would have been great if Toyota would have developed an engine just for this car.
Yeah 600lbs is a huge difference
Why a Toyota engine. The car be 90k then
The red sport 400 and normal "silver" sport versions of the Q50/Q60 have the same engine and turbos, just the red sport has more boost and an upgraded cooling system.
I've seen posts claiming that the normal sport has one turbo while the red sport has a twin turbo, and posts about the red sport having different turbos compared to the normal sport version...this is just to clear up some confusion about that. All Q50/Q60 models have a 3.0L twin turbo with a 7-speed automatic transmission (2016-2021). Older 2014-2015 Q50's had the 3.7L NA engine. And the Q60's of those years were basically rebadged G37's.
Difference between AWD and RWD
anyone else here after hearing 400Z will have the Q60's engine?
This was closer than I thought. If the Q60 was lighter I think it would take it
It was tuned vs stock imagine tune vs tune
@@sharktin240 yeah we definitely need stock vs stock because tunes vary and it can go back and forth.
@@sharktin240 Q60RS would be the same as this tuned Q60 standard.
@@SAT1337 q60rs might be quicker than this tuned q60, we dont know how much its putting out.
@@floggyWM1 Usually they’re neck and neck because it’s the same engine just tuned from factory for the RS.
Despite them both being coupes, they're not even in the same class. The supra is a very nimble and low sports car, the Q is a comfortable luxury cruiser that just so happens to be alright in the corners.
wait until the z400 comes out and blows the door of the supra
@@GR_FOURRARIS You might want to wait until the car comes out before making such statements. It's highly unlikely that the new Z is "blowing the doors off" the Supra.
@@darrell9616 true but im still fairly confident in my statement. based on what i know so far.
@@GR_FOURRARIS Your definition of "blow doors off" and mine must be vastly different. It MIGHT be faster, but that hardly qualified as "blown doors." It would need a significantly more powerful engine for that. 400-450 won't get it done.
@@darrell9616 I stand corrected "blow the doors off" was deff an overstatement. I really just meant it was gonna be an overall better package IMO. Price, performance, plus looks(subjective I know) and the fact that a manual(for me very important) will be an option on the new Z. I know the Supra is great car and I accept that but as a poor person I look forward to the Z being a cheaper alternative. Even if the supra came in a manual i would not be able to afford it at $51K i could go for 2.0 with manual but still no word on whether it will be an option.
Do the Supra vs Stinger
Im really surprised that for a car that is 600 pounds lighter the Supra did not win by much. 600 pounds! It's like the Q60 had 4 or 5 grown adults sitting inside while racing the Supra. VERY impressive for the q60.
What are you talking about?.😂 are you seriously comparing a AWD vs RWD? Of course the AWD will always have the advantage on a dragged race 😂 thats why these morons didn’t do nothing but one roll race cause they know the supra woulda smoked it in a roll race.
That Supra is fast.. all I can say is good luck q60 lol
The new 400z that’s coming out is gonna 💩 on the supra.
‘Supra’
Q60 need performance gear box and is too heavy!!!
Don't worry the new 400 Z will have a 9 speed automatic transmission and it also will come in a manual which the supra does not
@@donovanowens8owens I doubt it. They'll be close. The Z will be lighter than the Sup, but the Sup realistically has 440bhp. Also, manual vs auto (auto always shifts quicker).
Literally considering one of these two for my next car. This is a great video
Since you're featuring tuned cars how about a matchup of a 3.3T Hyundai tuned with all bolt ons vs. a 3.0T Q50 tuned with all available bolt ons, or at the very least, the same bolt ons on each car?
Lets do it Ill volunteer
"How is that even possible?!" It's called power to weight ratio... The Supra is literally 600 lbs lighter...
You have to understand the HP on paper for both cars is not exactly the same, that B58 in Supra makes more power to the wheel than the Infiniti, plus on top of that Infiniti is AWD car that results in even more raw power loss at the drivetrain. So in reality that Supra makes 400+ at the wheel while Infinity makes 400 on paper, thats the difference.
There are forums you can read of guys taking their B58 BMWs and Supras to the Dyno test and they make 60 - 100 hp more than what the number is on paper.
Just so you know.
Exactly the 600lbs of weight is a huge difference maker. Also add to that an 8spd gear box vs 7spd. I awould not be surprised if the gear ratio's on the first 4 gears are lower on the Supra then the Infiniti. Lastly the shift speed on the Infiniti is very slow compared to the ZF on the Supra. I own a Q50 and an BMW with the ZF 8spd and the ZF is vastly superior to the Infiniti transmission when it comes to shift speeds. The infiniti's is smoother on shifts however.
@@aleksankazakov , well that is even better, I will definitely buy a supra. Thanks bmw for give as more power
Finally thank you so much
Are those blue TE37’s on the Q60? Omg used to dream about those in high school (15 years ago)
I love how your to the point and no gassing the whole video
That Q60 is BEAUTIFUL! And sounds just like a GTR!
Technically it is a gtr
Q50/Q60’s are baby GTRs 😁 they share the same engine specs just different builds
a great race 👏🏽👏🏽 maybe the Q60 had some power loss because of the AWD
Nice videos as always, love it
Bro thanks for keeping the content with these sort of cars
Damn I forgot how beautiful the Q60s are.
Do a rematch when the 400z comes out 👀
Need GV70 vs QX70 plz Sam!!!!
Hey awesome race! I've got a tuned Q50 3.0t with some goodies on it and just love it. Great video. Off to smash the subscribe button and hit the like....
Infiniti Q60👍👍👍❣️
I wanna see the Q50/60 hybrid S make a debut in these trials..👍🏾
Assuming you have a sport hybrid 😂 i havr one too but it'll still get walked by the supra
@@coobydon3093 yes I do .. and yes it will (if it’s stock) but I have a few mods (injen in-takes, ARK cat back exhaust and a few minor adds) still trying to find a tune to get it above 400hp but still have faith in ole Hydie 🤺🤺🤺
@@theshepherd6997 all that mods n u still ain't crack 400 bro naah something aint right bro you should've already touching 400 cause hybrid S already has 360 hp off the back
Mods don’t do much without a tune to support
@@coobydon3093 I’m pretty sure it’s around 400 haven’t had it tuned to find out. But as was said mods don’t do too much without a tune.
I thought we already did the Beemer vs Q60 race?
😂
Cant wait to see the supra vs the 400z
That Infiniti looks so much better.
Power to weight ratio. 650 pounds goes a long way in the car world
I'm so glad I found this channel
The second guy doing the roll race def stepped through the floor when he gassed it 😆
I sure did, it pained me seeing my car lose like that, had to put it in fast mode 😂😅
@@CheatCodeG80 beautiful q60 bro! I used to be a big Infiniti guy from the Gs to the FXs
The transmission on the supra is what really makes a difference here and I know cause I have a 21 and you don't need 5k in mods to turn it into a street monster.
This right here! I have a 17 Q60 3.0t and yes, aside from the weight difference which is true. The ZF transmission in the Supra is top notch! It’s quick shifting, great gearing, and always ready to go. The automatic transmission on the Q60s are decently quick on shifting, but my main issue(in sport mode) is how slow it takes to react when you floor it while cruising. When I floor it, it will downshift once then almost a second later downshift again into optimal rpms and then go. In the Supra tho, you floor it and it will quickly shift to where it needs to be and it’s gone.
@@Mario_RX7 guys saying is all WEIGHT DIFFERENCE have no idea how good this supra transmission is,this is my 1st automatic and I'm so surprised,is super quick and shifts are very smooth.
Power to weight advantage is a big deal. Team super👍🏿
This makes me so excited for the 400z
Any idea what size and offset those wheels are on the Q60? That's the look I'm going for on mine. Thanks for all Q60/50 videos!!!
I think toyota did well partnering up with bmw. I feel like the bmw sorts carried the torch where the 2jz left off.
Said no one, ever
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@@nickmotsarsky4382 longevity and reliability. Toyota makes sure their engines last. Shame they didn’t use a v8 for the new Supra.
I'm just saying the 335i bmws I think arent a slouch and for what it is are awesome with mods.
A V8 your stupid . That B 58 engine is a masterpiece of HP
Now do it with a Supra that has a downpipe and a tune😂
Just had a stage 1 remap performed on my Supra. Pushing out 440bhp. When it shifts from 1st to second, the wheels spin!. Tuning dude stated it will be undriveable with a stage 2 tune and downpipe . 650bhp + through the rear wheels means it's fighting for traction.
He's saying the stock supra isn't 382 hp, but fails to factor in the 600 lb difference, extra gear, and better aerodynamics of the bmw!
"That Supra makes 380hp, I make 400 how is that Possible" lol I don't know maybe the weight
No shit eh lol power to weight ratio
@@nolanduchesne3668 lol he must be high 🤣
I'd take the Supra for sure, the gearbox alone is from a different planet! I'd just love to have a targa top on it + a fighter jet styled dashboard n I'm all set! on and of course the sauce ( 6spd )
Everyone hates on the Supra…. But Look at her go 🔥
Proper diet for the q60 Rear seat delete, Carbon race seats, maybe some more unneeded things in the car you’ll be good. I own a 2018 Q60 RA500 puttin my Q on a diet as we speak
I might just accept the fact that it's a BMW 😆😅🤣😂🙃
Yes but it’s amazing 😂 sounds so damn good for a Yota
Welcome to BMW under rated HP…..
Coming from a G35 owner, a new Supra doesn’t excite me one bit but those Q60’s are just sleek and beautiful in design.
nobody cares. drive what you like and have fun with it.
Please preview the twin turbo .. 15 - up FORD TAURUS SHO 😅🙏🏾🙏🏾. What can you race it with??? LOVE YOUR VIDEO!! 💯
Weight, that’s how it’s possible. The infinity is a porker. Also, the BMW engine is underrated.
Q60 for the win 🥇
Lol, I like the enthusiasm.. but it will take some mods to have the q60 win :)
@@vroomgc only due to the huge weight difference, but I'm sure the Nissan Z with the same engine and lighter weight will be up to the task. This race isn't apples to apples.
@@jeraldhogan True enough
It’s the weight man lol
Sam your video are awesome. Keep it up my man.👍
Thank you
i REALLY like your video, is it possible to you to drag race with a amg gla45 2017 i would love see my car race other caR !!
Excited to see this!
Lol supra going to win hands down and im a q50/q60 lover. The supra is just a amazing vehicle in all aspects
The infiniti is 600 lbs heavier. The supra is a proper sports car. The infiniti is luxury sports. The real race will be with the new Z. Can't wait for that video.
This is almost the race I wanted. Can you do a supra 2.0 vs rc200t vs 2.0l brz. Id like to see which company makes the best Toyota.
Can’t find a 2.0 supra
In a drag race I think you can automatically remove the brz from that question.
For a company that knows how to pull off the sporty and the luxury without compromising reliability not one bit, that q60 looks like the winner to me. Close race and I can only imagine what that q60 could do if it was lighter, and it had all the upgraded parts from the red sport 400