There definitly seems to be a pretty big contingent of riders looking for a burlier trail bike, but not quite the 150/160 Ripmo. If lightweight and maximum pedaling efficiency is what you are after the EXIE is kind of that new lightweight, pedal all day bike from Ibis
Seat tube angle ist irrelevant when riding while standing. So I disagree, that seattube angle can compensate missing chain stay length. As someone with really long legs Id like to have steap seat tubes AND long chainstays - Not a compromise
This engineer focuses on weight distrubution while climbing, which I agree is wrong. He is lengenting reach and keeping chainstay short based on climbing position. No front grip with that setup
Um. Did you miss the part where chainstay length grows from Medium (435mm) to XL (440mm). Additionally, seat tube angle gets slightly steeper as size increases. Ibis gave us size-specific geo. What exactly are you complaining about? Now if you want a bike with long chainstays, then buy a bike with long chainstays. But then don't complain when it's unwieldy in tight terrain or not much fun to jib off stuff. Like it or not, bikes are always a compromise. Unless you are riding strictly downhill, you spend a lot more time seated than standing. Even doing wheelies. I'd much rather have a fun, playful, poppy bike that isn't a pig to get onto the back wheel.
@@alexkeyes1706 Nonsense. I can tell you from personal experience that even the older V2s are fantastic climbers up very steep and rocky terrain. Reach lengthens as size increases. As does chain length. Smart. Center of mass remains centered over the bottom bracket no matter the size. Where it should be. It's why the seat tube angle needs to steepen for large and xl. Otherwise, the center of mass shifts rearward relative to sm, med, and xmed. If you want a point and plow with super-long chainstays, then get you one.
hi guys, which bike would make more sense for east coast weekly trailhead riding with 10ish bike park days a year? (Burke, Killington, Highland, Mont Saint-Anne, Bromont) advanced but not super aggressive riding, tech, flow, mid size jumps..
If you do plan on doing any bike park riding the Ripmo makes more sense. You'd just feel to under biked on a RIpley at the bike park, and the Ripmo is still a very capable pedaling bike.
Thanks for the vid guys. I'm the opposite of you in terms of body ratio. Also 6 ft but long torso, short legs. Would you suggest going for a large instead of the XM?
Nice review. Question, I’m 55. Avid rider. Nj based. At my age I’m avoiding steep dangerous tech. I enjoy ripping climbing singletrack. Head to Vermont quit a bit too. For me personally, would the Ripmo offer me simply a more stable ride over Ripley?
Not necessarily a more stable ride. Because they do share the same front and rear triangles the wheelbases are nearly identical between the Ripmo and Ripley. You'll just get more travel and a slightly slacker headtube on the Ripmo. That Ripley is a very capable bike and will feel plenty stable. If climbing efficiency is your priority then the Ripley is the best choice!
Ripley has a 72mm increase in wheelbase for the size large. I don't see how the large is still for the same person when the extra medium is 34mm longer.
I’m not sure why other companies don’t have options like this with their frames? Personally I’d opt for the Ripley since I would build as frame up and like to use wider i35 rims and 2.6” tires for stability on a 29er. I perhaps would go bigger and modify longer suspension if I were to move or seek out steeper chunkier trails that I want to charge down, but to be honest with myself, I don’t huck big gaps nor plow through chunks and usually pick a line and pic more mellow sections of the trail that are in my comfort zone.
Probably better choice to go HD6 if you are going to be doing a fair amount of bike park riding. Just get you more cushion for the pushing. HD6 still pedals extremely well thanks to that DW link suspension.
This engineer is overly focused on climbing position, and sacrficing weight distributon downhill, a 505 reach and 438 chainstay is going to push the front tire like crazy
Never once felt like the front tire was pushing on these bikes. It turns out these guys entire lives are revolved around figuring out kinematics on bikes and the Ripmo and Ripley are well balanced ripping bikes!
@@alexkeyes1706what about stack height? What about bb height? What’s your cockpit setup? Reach doesn’t tell the whole story. They said they wanted to keep it lively and maintain capability. That doesn’t always mean high-speed capability. That chainstay with that reach will be excellent on slow to mid-speed steeps and keep the bike lively everywhere else.
normally like your guys videos but please work on the editing. The constant chopping of cuts together has become jarring. Try to do some of the stuff in less takes please!
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These look so good. Probably ride even better!
They Rip!
Ripley v4 owner here. Were people really asking for a heavier, longer travel Ripley?
There definitly seems to be a pretty big contingent of riders looking for a burlier trail bike, but not quite the 150/160 Ripmo. If lightweight and maximum pedaling efficiency is what you are after the EXIE is kind of that new lightweight, pedal all day bike from Ibis
@@FanatikBikeCo the exie is an xc race bike, I'm sure there should be something in between...
@@ricodvorsky3844the Exie is really capable dh as well, definitely not just for xc racing
Great insight 🙂👍
Seat tube angle ist irrelevant when riding while standing. So I disagree, that seattube angle can compensate missing chain stay length. As someone with really long legs Id like to have steap seat tubes AND long chainstays - Not a compromise
This engineer focuses on weight distrubution while climbing, which I agree is wrong. He is lengenting reach and keeping chainstay short based on climbing position. No front grip with that setup
Um. Did you miss the part where chainstay length grows from Medium (435mm) to XL (440mm). Additionally, seat tube angle gets slightly steeper as size increases. Ibis gave us size-specific geo. What exactly are you complaining about? Now if you want a bike with long chainstays, then buy a bike with long chainstays. But then don't complain when it's unwieldy in tight terrain or not much fun to jib off stuff. Like it or not, bikes are always a compromise. Unless you are riding strictly downhill, you spend a lot more time seated than standing. Even doing wheelies. I'd much rather have a fun, playful, poppy bike that isn't a pig to get onto the back wheel.
@@alexkeyes1706 Nonsense. I can tell you from personal experience that even the older V2s are fantastic climbers up very steep and rocky terrain. Reach lengthens as size increases. As does chain length. Smart. Center of mass remains centered over the bottom bracket no matter the size. Where it should be. It's why the seat tube angle needs to steepen for large and xl. Otherwise, the center of mass shifts rearward relative to sm, med, and xmed. If you want a point and plow with super-long chainstays, then get you one.
hi guys, which bike would make more sense for east coast weekly trailhead riding with 10ish bike park days a year? (Burke, Killington, Highland, Mont Saint-Anne, Bromont) advanced but not super aggressive riding, tech, flow, mid size jumps..
If you do plan on doing any bike park riding the Ripmo makes more sense. You'd just feel to under biked on a RIpley at the bike park, and the Ripmo is still a very capable pedaling bike.
Let’s go back to part where we have 2 bikes in one with a couple of parts swap…
Thanks for the vid guys. I'm the opposite of you in terms of body ratio. Also 6 ft but long torso, short legs. Would you suggest going for a large instead of the XM?
That might be the better option. What bike do you currently ride and what size is it?
@@FanatikBikeCo An older Merida One-Twenty 120/130 in large with a long 8cm aftermarket stem to help with the orangutan torso/arms.
Sounds like the LG might be the move for you on these bikes
Shouldn't the extra medium be smaller than the medium? Kinda like how extra small is smaller?
What about extra large though? thats bigger than a large, and extra small is smaller than a small. Nothing makes sense!
Can you still attach a pump tot he bottle cage? Like a one up pump or do you have to put it in the frame?
You could put the pump holder below your bottle cage to be attached to the outside of your bike still
Nice review. Question, I’m 55. Avid rider. Nj based. At my age I’m avoiding steep dangerous tech. I enjoy ripping climbing singletrack. Head to Vermont quit a bit too. For me personally, would the Ripmo offer me simply a more stable ride over Ripley?
Not necessarily a more stable ride. Because they do share the same front and rear triangles the wheelbases are nearly identical between the Ripmo and Ripley. You'll just get more travel and a slightly slacker headtube on the Ripmo. That Ripley is a very capable bike and will feel plenty stable. If climbing efficiency is your priority then the Ripley is the best choice!
Ripley has a 72mm increase in wheelbase for the size large. I don't see how the large is still for the same person when the extra medium is 34mm longer.
When do we get a lightweight ebike version of the Ripmo?
There not Legal at Galbraith. What a joke
@@brianmelton5723 my understanding is all e-bikes legal at Galbraith now...
Leon the replicant, thats who he look's like!! xx
I’m not sure why other companies don’t have options like this with their frames? Personally I’d opt for the Ripley since I would build as frame up and like to use wider i35 rims and 2.6” tires for stability on a 29er. I perhaps would go bigger and modify longer suspension if I were to move or seek out steeper chunkier trails that I want to charge down, but to be honest with myself, I don’t huck big gaps nor plow through chunks and usually pick a line and pic more mellow sections of the trail that are in my comfort zone.
Sag marker fall on rear suspension??
Where can I find shram parts. I like simano better. Or is it s ram , and shi manno
Finally a straight top tube so other riders won’t question my masculinity anymore 💪 👊
HD6 or Ripmo for bike park and one quiver 🧐
Probably better choice to go HD6 if you are going to be doing a fair amount of bike park riding. Just get you more cushion for the pushing. HD6 still pedals extremely well thanks to that DW link suspension.
1:14 the SAG ring left the chat ... there is a missing block device ?
What is SAG an abbreviation of?
Support and gear
This engineer is overly focused on climbing position, and sacrficing weight distributon downhill, a 505 reach and 438 chainstay is going to push the front tire like crazy
Exactly!!!!
Never once felt like the front tire was pushing on these bikes. It turns out these guys entire lives are revolved around figuring out kinematics on bikes and the Ripmo and Ripley are well balanced ripping bikes!
The seat angle changes too per size, the reach doesnt tell it all.
@@DandyHippo If you know anything it does, when you are standing up on the bike descending the reach is what matters, not top tube length.
@@alexkeyes1706what about stack height? What about bb height? What’s your cockpit setup? Reach doesn’t tell the whole story. They said they wanted to keep it lively and maintain capability. That doesn’t always mean high-speed capability. That chainstay with that reach will be excellent on slow to mid-speed steeps and keep the bike lively everywhere else.
normally like your guys videos but please work on the editing. The constant chopping of cuts together has become jarring. Try to do some of the stuff in less takes please!
There is no "H" in SRAM.
Cool thanks for the heads up.
Just shave it buddy
What you don't like my mustache? Thats ok, cause I love it, and thats all that matters
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Hahah no I’m talking about engineer dudes receding hairline!