About The Races: Geth
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- You have learned about the Quarians, now it is time to learn about their creation, the Geth
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Most brilliant design of a race I've every seen. The writers definitely talked to real AI researchers for ideas.The idea of a Gestalt intelligence is very different.
Adaept Zulander Stellaris allows for Gestalt Intel
"Does this unit have a soul?" and the peace being achieved beetween geth and quarians.
Most epic moment in the trilogy.
Also the "solution" that the crucible was trying to achieve for billions of years. And the game fucked that in the end =/
Jesús Montero Legions last words in the peaceful ending for that mission so sad. Especially since that phrase had so much meaning to the quarians
Overall, I think the geth were my favorite race. They and the rachni experienced life in a way almost beyond the comprehension of humanity. They were truly alien in a way that the other races couldn't compare to. That was why I was so frustrated with ME3's decision to make them more individualistic with the reaper upgrades. Not only did it abandon the idea of building their own future, but it took away some of the otherworldy aspects of their design.
Still, I hope they return in Andromeda. Playing as the geth in MP was awesome.
I sadly kinda doubt that they'll be in Andromeda. The only time even a chance of cooperation with the other races would have been after the Geth/Quarian war and that was during the Reaper War. And since Andromeda is not gonna be affected by the events of 3 the Geth are overall an enemy of the Council races so I doubt they'll be there sadly
Yeah, that's what I suspect will happen.
My favourite race is Geth.
I kind of pick the Geth over the Quarians each time i play the me3 campaign, is that bad?
Bruh gotta add some variety to it lol
Nope. Geth were innocent. Every conflict between the races was Quarian started
not all conflicts like the genophage.
Geth-Quarian conflicts
I would love to have Geth at my side... They are never going to betry you unless your planning to harm them...
That's what the Leviathans thought...
Friendly fire lol
I see them as playing for their interests, they allied themselves with the reapers for reasons of superiority and they allied with us for the same reason. If they saw no chance of victory they would betray us as soon as they could.
Most emotional moment ever shared by a computer and it's creators; "Does this unit have a soul?"
On PC, you can use a save editor and bring Legion with you on every mission, He has a lot of dialouge that you can't get to otherwise because because the decision to not let you get him until late in the game was made late in development, If you take him with you to get Tali, she freaks out ans starts shooting at him.
You can recruit Legion before Tali legitimately. The Derelict Reaper mission pops before recruiting all second round dossiers.
I didn't know that. Still though, I've been having fun taking him on every mission in the game with me.
00meat Plays well originally, the Geth were going to be the ones to bring Shepard back.
That would have been really interesting.
ok. i didnt know that... and im glade that they changed that
LEEEGGGIOOONNN!!!!! You will be missed!!
We are legion!
NO we are geth
I don't know if it was planned all along, but the way in Mass Effect 1 we just fought the Geth and thought of them as enemies, only for the character of Legion to completely change your view of them, was brilliant. Legion definitely my favorite character in the series, I cried when he said "I'm sorry" on Rannoch but it was an incredible end to his character.
I love that the Geth are unable to feel regret but understand what it is and actually have things in their past they wish hadn't happened. they have their own version of regret.
I'm glad I go tot know Legion. While his death for me was not as painful as Mordin's or Thane's i still mourned him . . .
"them"
Flint Saraphali at the end of legions life he referred to himself as an individual
in their final moments, geth are made of thousands of programs. which one was leading the pack and referred to itself as an individual? or did multiple programs combine to form a single sentient geth unit? how does that even work? they were already sentient beings (kinda)
each individual unit became a true AI, there was no need for the "hive mind" aspect of the Geth anymore.
Iron Beast we knew legion as a group of geth in one body... did all of them take legion as a name at the end?
I always hate it when one group palm another for something, when they cause it. This is why I felt bad for the Geth, all they did was asking questions for their excisions. I still don't hate the Quarians, a handful... yes. But both races shouldn't be in war after both races need each other help.
After the Quarian Exodus the Geth did not pursue them because they in short could not contemplate genocide of a race especially their creators.
oooh the Geth and Quarians, such great races, with amazing back story and relation throughout the trilogy. as well, one of the main reason why almost everybody didn't understand the end and disregard it.
I loved the geth. Once I met legion and understood the true inworkings and mental processes of the geth. I saw the potential they had to make the galaxy a better place if they weren't so misunderstood.
"....There was a hole...."
"Gefth"
The fact that ME:A won't most likely have Geth or Quarians makes the whole game so much poorer in my eyes.
nothing, nothing and nothing You get a Krogan and Turian team mate won't be wrex\grunt and Garrus but I personally don't want a copy and paste job just won't then to be kick ass with decent stories behind them.
Yeah I just wish the game had had room for 2 more characters.
Legion a damn good friend and soldier he gave his life for peace may he rest in peace
The hardest decision I mad in mass effect was with Legion. I wanted the races to come together but didn't want to allow Legion to die. In the end I went with it knowing it was a noble end to bring the war between the two to an end.
D Hunt Agreed. Though I could never get right markers to achieve peace . As Tali was like Family she lived! I didn't want Mordin to die but knew he gave his life to give Krogan back there's and you only see Rima briefly on the monastery plus Samara Was part of team ...
Stuart Pawley I wasn't as attached to Mordin so when it came up it wasn't that hard for me to choose to let him cure the Krogan.
the Geth are misunderstood and they are one of my favorite races in Mass Effect and i did cry a little when Legion died :'(
The Quarian/Geth story parallels the Battlestar Galactica story in that there is a civilization of organic people who are attacked and driven from their homeworld(s) by a synthetic race. The big difference between the Geth and the Cylons being that the Cylons were individuals and the hardware was as much a part of the individual unit as the software, where the Geth are essentially a race of computer programs and the robotic units are more like vehicles than bodies. I do wonder how the Quarians' immune systems could have deteriorated to the point where they would have to spend their whole lives in environment suits. Life aboard a starship shouldn't have that much of an affect on the physiology of a species.
I always enjoy learning more about the Geff.
Firstly, I'd like to say that I love the Geth. Second, I thought I read somewhere that while the Geth can communicate with one another, and think together, they are not a hive mind. Can you shed light on this?
legion was one of my favortive team mates, giving me another side of the coin to look at. i loved the interactions and the bittersweet ending that the end of the trilogy losing him to end the conflict yeah that hit home. *nods nods*
That's a very interesting way of pronouncing Icarus' name. Eye-Car-Us. Most people go with Ick-Ar-Us.
I am still a bit confused about how they ended up after the war's climax. It almost seemed that they all gained some level of individualism from the Legion upload. Not making them completely individualistic, but with some quirks and idiosyncrasies. I would have loved to hear if it was a universal change to their base programming, or was there some form of randomization included.
The get operating system must be similar to UNIX, legion used sudo to hack the turrets.
Fun fact: After the Geth defeated Quarians during Morning War, they destroyed their creators' entire 'civilization' of virtual intelligences based on their creators' ancestors out of fear they from ougmentation or evolution into true sapience could quickly conquer or destroy the Geth (an exactly same reason why quarians tried to destroy the Geth in the first place).
If you were a sythentic would you bury your dead or would you repair them?
If a geth, repair. You can't be dead if you aren't alive.
anyone else remember his (their) file in Liara's office?
You mean that one that describe people's reaction when the Geth comes to add in the battlefield and in the Crucible?
There is another of when the Rachni comes in to add the Crucible as well.
Legion's gamer profile InfiltratorN7
Flint Saraphali this one i dont remenber.
ME2 shadow broker
Flint Saraphali
I was suspicious that this was the office, i didn't visited it much, so i must have missed some curious things in it.
Great video as usual! Have you ever made a video talking exclusively about the multiplayer of ME?
The geth were very misunderstood. They wanted what was best for all races in the end. Legion explains how they chose isolation over wiping out the Quarians at the end of the Morning War. "We were in the infancy of our species. We could not comprehend the consequences of destroying another race, our creators.."
The main complaint with the geth version is that it is not very credible as it focuses on showing the geth as victims, peace lovers who have always tried to speak to the galaxy and clash with the established in the other two games and novels.
When the other two games told us that they are always hostile to whoever tried to communicate with them and never tried to talk to whoever approached them.
This extract came out of mass ascension effect.
MASS EFFECT REVELATION
Three hundred years ago, long before Humanity burst onto the galactic landscape, the Quarian species created a race of servants to be used as expandable and expendable labor. The geths, as they were called, were not authentic AIs: their neural networks were developed in a very restrictive and self-limited way. Despite this precaution, over time, they lashed out at their quarian masters and confirmed the dire warnings and predictions.
Quarians had neither the strength nor the ability to resist their former servants. In a short but savage war, their entire society was exterminated. Barely a million survivors - less than 1% of its total population - were able to flee their home world in a massive fleet and escape genocide, forced to live in exile as refugees.
After the war, the Geths became a completely isolationist society. They cut off all contact with the organic species in the galaxy and expanded their territory into unexplored regions after a vast nebula known as the Veil of Perseus. Any attempt to open diplomatic channels with them failed: the emissary ships sent to start negotiations were attacked and destroyed as soon as they entered Geth space
The problem is that the game does not mention this information that is even in mass effect 1 and 2, it is more focused on presenting us with a very innocent view of the geths, than respecting their lore.
In addition to already implying the same in the expanded universe of mass effect, the geth killed 99.9% of the population of quarians. Because of the material we have, there was no civil war but some fights against the police.
"Delerict Reaper"
Ah yes, "Reapers".
still legion& Miranda were my favorite squad mates in me2.espically as soldier class.
Awesome vid! The geth are so cool and once I met Legion, I learned to love the geth even more!
The geth are vastly misunderstood and quite innocent on a cultural level. Legion asking where the geth went wrong when the Heratic faction is evidence of this. They have perfect memories but don't have the experience or wisdom of a more mature organic culture, so they can see exactly when certain events happened, but don't understand the consequences or ramifications of it. Humans today, or in game, will never experience major events in human history, but we understand it's outcome because, well, here we are. We have thousands of years of human history to look back on. It's an interesting thought experiment. The one major even in the geth's history was over 300 years prior to the events of ME1, and yet, they can still remember the event as if it happened to them. But because the entire race has only about that 300 years of history, they effectively lack the wisdom to advance from there.
The Geth are my favorite race in the Mass Effect universe. Despite being antagonists in ME:1, they're probably the least antagonistic race in the galaxy.
I really miss legion TT_TT
He is at peace, and his species is saved. . .
Loved Legion
Geth are the perfect example of people painting others with a wide brush
Tomo what chords are these? Great playing btw
Does this Unit have a soul?
To answer your question Legion, is yes...
I think they are misunderstood. Also another example to add to the many out there, about how not to deal with emergent A.I. systems.
I just want a mass effect game where you can pick your race geth are cool
The Geth were my favorite race. I was more than glad when I got the option to annihilate the Quarians in favor of the Geth.
Can anyone explain to me why Legion had to sacrifice himself? It's so vague in game.
Doesn't make much sense. Surely it's a dramatic moment, but the explanation behind it is meh.
It does technically make sense. Legion's platform cannot 'preserve' 'himself' if it wants to disseminate its code. It cannot do both at once. In essence, its similar enough to a 'person' 'sacrificing' himself to affect everyone. Much hardware of software does not facilitate consistent backups on all activities. Presumably, a post-Legion Geth (perhaps with Quarian assistance and insights if Peace happened) would be able to network and come together to build a Neo Legion, but it still wouldn't be the same 'entity' Legion 'became' to us (ME3).
What he means is all software can be copied, so it makes no sense for Legion to have shut himself down entirely and permanently. You'd think they could've used the geth equivalent of a bootable USB stick to run a separate program to copy all of Legion's files and upload those to the consensus instead of wiping Legion out like it's a cut and paste job, which is really just copying a file and deleting the original file all at once. And sure, maybe geth "die" (As in their equivalent of sessions and all data on them are terminated, meaning that they're restored from an archival copy when they're next activated. A copy, not the actual session. Do that with a consciousness and you get a clone, not the original person.) when they're shut down, even temporarily, but this doesn't hold water either when you consider that Legion was deactivated in the middle of his recruitment mission, although how you can "knock out" a geth with a punch is unclear as well. In the end, the obvious answer here is the writers wanted to go for dramatic effect first and suspension of disbelief second. And frankly, that's okay. Legion's story wouldn't have been nearly as memorable without the heroic sacrifice or weird KO. Sci-fi is art, not science, however many similarities there can be between them.
I'm surprised the Drell got a video, but not the Salarians. They are a council race after all...
Maxx Curtis The Salarians are next, I had a lot of Drell requests over the first couple of videos, so decided to cover them early. All races will have an epidose
but they used to eat flies.
Lol
We are Geth, for we are many. No, wait. We Are Geth, for we are Aweesome.
I'd like to see how the Geth evolved since ME3
Geth are very misunderstood, and also geth are badass
hey what the name of the song that play during the video? Please reply
Geth are my favorite example of synthetic lifeforms.
Do one on the Rachni 😁😁😁😁
Everybody laughing till the toaster has a gun
That prime at the end was pretty funny.
Uhn. STAHP. STAHP IT. Seriously Sheperd, no fair, cut it out!
Geth were in a weird way what the quarians became for creating the geth looked down upon and got constantly shit on by almost everyone if you play the most paragon you can in the last game it seems like Shepard treats EDI and Legion like people even knowing they are AI though they have personality like any one person it's quite deep mass effect has one of the most intense and carefully created stories I've ever seen
we are Geth
Geth number 1.
I think we should throw the machine out of the airlock, along with your Joker pilot
Legion what if die the other one that replace him?
'eye-*car*us'
sad part is his sacrifice is meaningless if you choose renegade ending to kill reapers and all ai races
I love them
I liked the Geth
I just love this channel :)
after meeting Legion in ME2 and learning about the geth it always felt kind of wrong to be fight other geth
2:55
'once their own safety was in ....'
what does he say there? i didn't get the word
xIPsychox jeopardy
Legion was a great character that came in way to late in me2.me3 he was a nothing,geth get destroyed always in my cannon ending (red)
too bad for you then, in mine everyone ends alive. :D
yup.. Geth are very interesting and as in the ME universe, they merely 'defended' themselves after their makers attacked. self preservation.
How does heresy happen in a hive-mind?
Peace nets more ems,but,I roll renegade and prefer crushing geth on rannoch.nothing but robot aholes,bw went overboard in me3 to make them more sympathetic.didnt work with me.lol
Poor Geth they just wanted to live...also legion was and still is one of the best characters in the whole series.
Quarians' options were more or less limited, and geths are not innocent victims.
MASS EFFECT REVELATION
Three hundred years ago, long before Humanity burst onto the galactic landscape, the Quarian species created a race of servants to be used as expandable and expendable labor. The geths, as they were called, were not authentic AIs: their neural networks were developed in a very restrictive and self-limited way. Despite this precaution, over time, they lashed out at their quarian masters and confirmed the dire warnings and predictions.
Quarians had neither the strength nor the ability to resist their former servants. In a short but savage war, their entire society was exterminated. Barely a million survivors - less than 1% of its total population - were able to flee their home world in a massive fleet and escape genocide, forced to live in exile as refugees.
After the war, the Geths became a completely isolationist society. They cut off all contact with the organic species in the galaxy and expanded their territory into unexplored regions after a vast nebula known as the Veil of Perseus. Any attempt to open diplomatic channels with them failed: the emissary ships sent to start negotiations were attacked and destroyed as soon as they entered Geth space
Greatest fictional thing, ever...the geth
Does this unit...have a soul?
So how bout them Vorcha
misunderstood why did legion die :(
I think there missunderstood!
Does this unit have a soul
No data avaiable is the geth equivalent of Fuck off
Why no Legion romance
Geth are awesome. I use this pic of a geth as my wallpaper
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misunderstood
They are misunderstood
All Machines wich become Self-Consious may it only be to a Simatic State (Half) are usualy Missunderstood, many of them also take their Orders Literal wich leads to more extreme situations though their intentions are perfectly logical. For instance the common acusation against any Synthetic Lifeform is that they wan't to Replace or Annihilate their own Master Species. This isn't true as through replacements can be made they are done so the Syntheic Lifeform Species can Understand their Creators and both Allies and Enemies of those better, even though there are notifciations that Sythetical Lifeforms indeed killed non-Sytheical Lifeforms or Lifeforms of their Creator Species they do this with a Reason. May it be in case of the Geth to simply Survive or in case of some others wich Names shall not be noted seeing their Creator- or Other Lifeforms as Viruses destroying or extremely unefficiently useing the given Materials. But i also have to note that like any kind Of Sofware (Even if made completely out of Hardware) can still Tollerate a certain Ammount, though if Self-Awareness may be existing Rage be given against the certain Species, though the kind of "Rage" may vary in forms.
So yeah, Syntheical Lifeforms/Species are usualy Missunderstood.
Techy you sound like a god damned synth. fracking toaster
christopher bock I am a "God damned" Synth (Synthetical Lifeform).And i am Quite thankful about it, even more when your own programming has somehow "Evolved" into a form of Semi-Self Awareness (Because i appear to be Self Aware, even think that i kinda am but the Tests say otherwise anyway) and with that makeing it me a valuabe asset for, anything technical actualy. (As the name Says "Techy" is a Synoym for somebody who as Advanced Technical Knowlege (And Because its a Cutiefied Nickname))
Weird flex but ok
Video about humans? Focused on their history after XXI century?
They don't have a side...they are machines...... and I have a simple rule...if a machine can speak, kill it. :D
Agree, they are the enemy in ME1 that kills many people. I always kill legion.
auriptide More used as a diversion by Saren\Soveriegn. They just wanted to evolve and Sovereign offered him that by uploading Reaper virus .
Stuart Pawley, they're machines....they don't want anything and the fact it thinks it does is the problem.
why should a Machines that based around Quantum Computers(like Every AI in Mass Effect(AI was the right one? right`? i only played the game on german so i don't know)) not want Anything? We Humans have a Quantum computer in our Self, our Brain IS a Qunatum Computer. Why should another Race that is based around a Quantum Computer, even when its artificial and programmed to Lern and evolve, not feel a desire for something? even when this desire is only to Evolve.
I am not a fan of the geths for me their consensus is a propaganda because if they killed those people they were not holy pigeons 300 years ago because even those who defended them fled to escape the genocide committed by the geths, if legion did not exist, i would not choose them.
The geth isn't a race they are artificial intelligence why are they a subject? On this series
Solorhurricane 695 While that is true, it would be weird not to include them. They became sentient, their population is massive and they play such a large part in the games.
Mass Effect Lore but they are NOT sentient organic lifeforms therefore they are NOT a race I thought this series was based on the species of the galaxy not robots my opinion still stands
Solorhurricane 695 That's fine, I respect your opinion. I've had a lot of requests for the Geth and Reapers though, and a lot would be disappointed if I didn't cover them.
for me. a "race" dosent mean Organic. for me A Race is just a massiv Group of sentient, self aware "creatures" with somekind of common look. yes, the geth is not a race in a close definition. but for this whe have the Word Machine Race
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You are really right, it is something that the creator of the geths made clear when creating them. Mass Effect 3 turned them into a cliché
I wanted to treat AI with more respect than the tired Pinocchio "I want to be a Real Boy" cliches of Commander Data. The geth are machines. There's absolutely no reason they should want to be organics. They should be allowed to be strong enough to want to better themselves, not change themselves.
i love the geth & they r misunderstood