Paul Coceancig is an amazing doctor. He gave me advice 2 years ago on helping my lower wisdom teeth straighthen with orthodontic elastic bands and it worked. Now I have fully erupted lower wisdoms.
@@phillipplein6932he told me to buy orthodontic bands of varying thicknesses and to then try to slot the band that fit just a little less than comfortably into the space between the 2nd molar and partially erupting wisdom teeth, so the band loop would be sticking up vertically, with one side between the teeth and the other sort of sticking up above. The bands are stretched when slotting them in like floss and when relaxed expand and put a slight lateral force on the wisdom teeth making them want to straighthen when they are coming in crooked. For me they were coming in around 20° off of being straight and within a few weeks of doing this and chewing stronger gum over the erupting wisdoms, the wisdom teeth had straightened and we're also moving upwards and pushing the gum out of the way. It was hard to slot the band in at first but as the wisdom teeth erupted it got easier and easier. I had them in 24/7 and only replaced them after a few days or if they broke from chewing.
@@user-bn2nv5mx2g he told me over a zoom call and from what I gathered it's not a standard technique but one he intuitively recommend for somone like me who had partial erupted lower wisdom teeth that were coming in off axis by 20 degrees. He was the only professional who was adamant my wisdoms could be saved and he was 100% right. God bless him
The worst thing this guy has going for him is saying things like 100% of the time a 100% cure…serious doctors don’t talk like that. I find that the deeper the expert the more they talk in terms of nuance and probabilities. I’m sure this guy is legit if Ron is talking to but his style makes him sound more like the marketers he decries than a deep expert. Cool beard tho!
If you have had jaw surgery you might understand. The best orthographic surgeons are a little eccentric but they are brilliant. Speaking from experience here, he is correct in his answers 100%. Great interview.
Have you had jaw surgery? If so with whom? I’m considering it! And I’ll allow that this realm may just be more ego heavy than most medical fields, at least in terms of how they speak publicly. It’s a bit like having Donald Trump as your jaw surgeon though, no? “Only I can save America” is kinda like “only I can do your jaw surgery” lol. 😜
@@crossroads670 Fair enough but not knowing anything about the Australian system it’s tough for me to know what that means. Like aren’t they trying to revoke Mike Mews license in the UK or something? He seems pretty legit
Screaming for another episode with Dr. C. He totally left the mind wandering around the topic of jaw development and the questionable “soft foods” myth. Here are some wild guesses: (1) Back in the day, we were physically active from head to toe, as part of fulfilling chores without doorstep delivery and machines. If the biomechanics of the jaw affect that of the NHKF (neck, hips, knees, feet etc.), then the vice versa should also be true, thereby causing poor jaw development due to under activation of NHKF muscles/joints and their associated electrical signals to the jaw for infrastructural growth. (2) Another reason I can think of is the constant exposure of radio waves from devices that influence growth factors linked to 3D skeletal growth. The mother also holds the phone against her head while the baby is developing - anything there worth investigating? Really hope he keeps his promise by appearing in the next podcast and addressing all the gaps from the current session.
Household allergies leading to nasal obstruction, which leads to poor oral posture, which leads to poor jaw development. Also, sippy cups/lack of breastfeeding, which leads to infants not developing complete oral function & mechanics, which leads to poor oral habits/posture, which leads to poor jaw development pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18262736/ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8522884/
This doctor has a particular aura, charisma, gravitas, force of personality or whatever you call it he is not like the other doctors you interviewed. We definitely need another episode with Dr. Paul Keep doing this amazing work man, Thank you for all this. And also, wish you very happy married life.
Ahhh he didn't get to answer why he didn't do jaw surgery although he admitted that he could be a candidate. Hopefully there will be another jawcast with Dr. Conceacig. Nice chat and very interesting human being
He talking about the soft tissue part of the nose which in many places sort of remains stunted. Check out his surgery plan videos and you'll see CT scans of people's airways in their nose and lots of people have small "air tubes" from never nose breathing during childhood. MSE if done properly should expan as far back as possible as that will expand the two outlets that exist at the very back of nasal airway but most of the time that area receives poor expansion due to resistance and how far back it is. And even then it still doesn't fix the problem of underdeveloped sinuses and other soft tissue function inside the nose. It's possible that nasal breathing for years may cause them to grow butnim not sure on that. In any case MSE expansion is definitely helping you if it put far back in your mouth around the 2nd to 1st molar. Ideally as far back as possible. Front expansion just back your nasal base and this nostrils bigger which Paul acknowledges as being of some benefit. If you need a huge amount of expansion then MSE is still needed because Paul can only expand your arch so much, maybe 5mm but less than 10mm due to risk of non bone union if gap is to big. Bone grafts could help with that though.
While he has some very good points about how a patient is not seen in a holistic way, with many different specialists for different "diseases" and that patients have one disease (a small jaw) and not ten, there are other statements that are quite controversial. He wanted you to read his book, without knowing anything of you Ron? Saying MSE doesn't work, without knowing that it worked on the person in front of him. Saying that skeletal expansion doesn't increase airways when the literature and empiric proves state the opposite. Big ego in my opinion.
after watching the full video, I think he might be right, what really narrows the airways from how I understand it is, that the recessed maxilla pushes against the airways. No matter how much you expand the maxilla, it still pushes against the airway and is the main reason why people can't get enough air. Keep in mind, Ron did the MSE treatment and he still chockes during his sleep.
Please ask ASAP just the question on what he thinks is causing jaws to not develop anymore. I want to know why we don't have wide jaws in particular with the nice 12 tooth smile from end-to-end and the lower mouth roof so that the nasal septum isn't all scrunched and nose off center.
I have breathing issue due to really bad tongue tie. I find it very difficult for me to mew due to high arch palate and also the tongue tie. I believe the palate expansion is beneficial when someone with bad tongue tie could not mew
Try pressing tongue upward to palate then at same time open mouth big as can you may be able to stretch the tie a bit look in mirror while doing it at under tongue!
Hey jaw hacks i have question and i want your input on it, my imw is about 39-40ish mm ive had braces and wear retainers, ive been mewing since about age 14 and now i am currently 18, i had braces because of of an overbite and to fix they used elastic bands which pulled my maxilla back im wondering if i ditch my retainers will i benefit from it or will it just cause relapse
I spoke with a 45yo man the other day, he told me about a recurring dream of drawning. What surprised me was that he had actually very good facial form... so hypothesis 1: the muscle tone in this area is actually not so much related to facial form or 2: psychological problem?
Oh so sounds like there is already a cure for sleep apnea 👀, he had said it in his channel…. I’m interested in this IMDO. But yes WE NEED PEOPLE WHO CAN DO IT IN THE US!!
The other thing is that IMDO is just one surgery. How many procedures do you need to fix everything and also, can you even do that. My arch is narrow and high, my nose is off center from scrunched up nasal septum. Also, I'm really disappointed that he couldn't just say why he thought why our jaws didn't grow. I agree the soft food thing always seemed a bit stupid. But, I thought vitamin A,D,K deficiency and also use of bottles to feed babies could explain it. Though, I may seen some people with very wide 12 tooth smiles and their mothers used bottles I think. I'm not sure what if any orthodontics they got. He needs to ask the jaw growth question. I can't wait for that!
@@sjisekek9637 I didn’t chew very hard foods growing up and have all my wisdom teeth. People like you think it’s not genetics but that’s mostly what it boils down to
@@DavidFoundCo when you process food you lose nutritional value that's what I'm talking about, Weston a price's book talks about the correlation of nutrition and proper facial growth and dental hygiene.
You had your wisdom teeth removed at 11? Wow, I was 14 when I had mine well as my premolars. I have had DJS and I have enough bone space back there to restore my wisdom teeth. Not sure I’ll do it but my bone length was really expanded with surgery and my airway is very healthy now. Wish you the best of luck.
Wow all this time I never considered that while splitting the suture certainly widens the nasal base triangle the soft tissue inside may remain the same Also the insights about unpleasant dreams and shallow sleep vs pleasant dreams and deep sleep was interesting
Also, this guy just said that MSE doesn’t work, it clearly as day fucking does, Ron himself got the surgery and not only that there’s hundreds of ppl online that say they can breathe so much better with their new expansion so this dude is not open minded at all
IS THERE ANY POSSIBLE WAY TO GET WISDOM TEETH IMPLANTED AFTER JAW SURGERY??? I give so many fucke about my wisdom teeth getting put back in my mouth, I will travel the ends of the fucking earth I stg I don’t gaf, I’m getting my health BACK NO MATTER WHAT
Now I've learned, once again, that it will be even more financially impossible to correct my skull/face/and breathing the correct way.
Paul Coceancig is an amazing doctor. He gave me advice 2 years ago on helping my lower wisdom teeth straighthen with orthodontic elastic bands and it worked. Now I have fully erupted lower wisdoms.
How ??
@@phillipplein6932he told me to buy orthodontic bands of varying thicknesses and to then try to slot the band that fit just a little less than comfortably into the space between the 2nd molar and partially erupting wisdom teeth, so the band loop would be sticking up vertically, with one side between the teeth and the other sort of sticking up above.
The bands are stretched when slotting them in like floss and when relaxed expand and put a slight lateral force on the wisdom teeth making them want to straighthen when they are coming in crooked.
For me they were coming in around 20° off of being straight and within a few weeks of doing this and chewing stronger gum over the erupting wisdoms, the wisdom teeth had straightened and we're also moving upwards and pushing the gum out of the way. It was hard to slot the band in at first but as the wisdom teeth erupted it got easier and easier. I had them in 24/7 and only replaced them after a few days or if they broke from chewing.
Send references / resources so I could learn more.
What was the advice?
@@user-bn2nv5mx2g he told me over a zoom call and from what I gathered it's not a standard technique but one he intuitively recommend for somone like me who had partial erupted lower wisdom teeth that were coming in off axis by 20 degrees. He was the only professional who was adamant my wisdoms could be saved and he was 100% right. God bless him
The worst thing this guy has going for him is saying things like 100% of the time a 100% cure…serious doctors don’t talk like that. I find that the deeper the expert the more they talk in terms of nuance and probabilities. I’m sure this guy is legit if Ron is talking to but his style makes him sound more like the marketers he decries than a deep expert. Cool beard tho!
If you have had jaw surgery you might understand. The best orthographic surgeons are a little eccentric but they are brilliant. Speaking from experience here, he is correct in his answers 100%. Great interview.
He had his license suspended a month ago in Australia for harming patients.
Have you had jaw surgery? If so with whom? I’m considering it! And I’ll allow that this realm may just be more ego heavy than most medical fields, at least in terms of how they speak publicly. It’s a bit like having Donald Trump as your jaw surgeon though, no? “Only I can save America” is kinda like “only I can do your jaw surgery” lol. 😜
@@crossroads670 Fair enough but not knowing anything about the Australian system it’s tough for me to know what that means. Like aren’t they trying to revoke Mike Mews license in the UK or something? He seems pretty legit
@@Thinkagain1234 I consulted with Paul a few years ago and didn’t like him. I’d consider some of the Italian surgeons.
Screaming for another episode with Dr. C. He totally left the mind wandering around the topic of jaw development and the questionable “soft foods” myth. Here are some wild guesses:
(1) Back in the day, we were physically active from head to toe, as part of fulfilling chores without doorstep delivery and machines. If the biomechanics of the jaw affect that of the NHKF (neck, hips, knees, feet etc.), then the vice versa should also be true, thereby causing poor jaw development due to under activation of NHKF muscles/joints and their associated electrical signals to the jaw for infrastructural growth.
(2) Another reason I can think of is the constant exposure of radio waves from devices that influence growth factors linked to 3D skeletal growth. The mother also holds the phone against her head while the baby is developing - anything there worth investigating?
Really hope he keeps his promise by appearing in the next podcast and addressing all the gaps from the current session.
Household allergies leading to nasal obstruction, which leads to poor oral posture, which leads to poor jaw development.
Also, sippy cups/lack of breastfeeding, which leads to infants not developing complete oral function & mechanics, which leads to poor oral habits/posture, which leads to poor jaw development
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18262736/
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8522884/
This doctor has a particular aura, charisma, gravitas, force of personality or whatever you call it he is not like the other doctors you interviewed. We definitely need another episode with Dr. Paul
Keep doing this amazing work man, Thank you for all this.
And also, wish you very happy married life.
Ahhh he didn't get to answer why he didn't do jaw surgery although he admitted that he could be a candidate. Hopefully there will be another jawcast with Dr. Conceacig. Nice chat and very interesting human being
Mse literally helps people with sleep apnea and disordered breathing tho
Including Ronald. This guy’s perspective is interesting but I’d also be curious to see him in conversation with someone like Dr Alfi or Kasey Li
Yeah, that opinion was really weird
He was citing a video from like a decade ago when he did RPE on a kid with the IMDO. Like idk the whole thing about expansion seems weird.
He talking about the soft tissue part of the nose which in many places sort of remains stunted. Check out his surgery plan videos and you'll see CT scans of people's airways in their nose and lots of people have small "air tubes" from never nose breathing during childhood. MSE if done properly should expan as far back as possible as that will expand the two outlets that exist at the very back of nasal airway but most of the time that area receives poor expansion due to resistance and how far back it is. And even then it still doesn't fix the problem of underdeveloped sinuses and other soft tissue function inside the nose.
It's possible that nasal breathing for years may cause them to grow butnim not sure on that. In any case MSE expansion is definitely helping you if it put far back in your mouth around the 2nd to 1st molar. Ideally as far back as possible. Front expansion just back your nasal base and this nostrils bigger which Paul acknowledges as being of some benefit.
If you need a huge amount of expansion then MSE is still needed because Paul can only expand your arch so much, maybe 5mm but less than 10mm due to risk of non bone union if gap is to big. Bone grafts could help with that though.
Great to hear from him. He's definitely at the forefront of sleep apnea and fixing the lower skull
While he has some very good points about how a patient is not seen in a holistic way, with many different specialists for different "diseases" and that patients have one disease (a small jaw) and not ten, there are other statements that are quite controversial.
He wanted you to read his book, without knowing anything of you Ron? Saying MSE doesn't work, without knowing that it worked on the person in front of him. Saying that skeletal expansion doesn't increase airways when the literature and empiric proves state the opposite. Big ego in my opinion.
after watching the full video, I think he might be right, what really narrows the airways from how I understand it is, that the recessed maxilla pushes against the airways. No matter how much you expand the maxilla, it still pushes against the airway and is the main reason why people can't get enough air. Keep in mind, Ron did the MSE treatment and he still chockes during his sleep.
Congrats on getting married, Ronald!
Please ask ASAP just the question on what he thinks is causing jaws to not develop anymore. I want to know why we don't have wide jaws in particular with the nice 12 tooth smile from end-to-end and the lower mouth roof so that the nasal septum isn't all scrunched and nose off center.
I have breathing issue due to really bad tongue tie. I find it very difficult for me to mew due to high arch palate and also the tongue tie. I believe the palate expansion is beneficial when someone with bad tongue tie could not mew
Try pressing tongue upward to palate then at same time open mouth big as can you may be able to stretch the tie a bit look in mirror while doing it at under tongue!
Get it cut ?
I am from malaysia. Is it possible to be treated by this doctor? I have nearly a dying thought everyday due to breathing issue
Can headphones negatively affect facial structure?
Hey jaw hacks i have question and i want your input on it, my imw is about 39-40ish mm ive had braces and wear retainers, ive been mewing since about age 14 and now i am currently 18, i had braces because of of an overbite and to fix they used elastic bands which pulled my maxilla back im wondering if i ditch my retainers will i benefit from it or will it just cause relapse
I spoke with a 45yo man the other day, he told me about a recurring dream of drawning. What surprised me was that he had actually very good facial form... so hypothesis 1: the muscle tone in this area is actually not so much related to facial form or 2: psychological problem?
sleep study would help uncover it
Apparently, dreams of drowning or suffocating are signs of sleep apnea.
Oh so sounds like there is already a cure for sleep apnea 👀, he had said it in his channel…. I’m interested in this IMDO.
But yes WE NEED PEOPLE WHO CAN DO IT IN THE US!!
The other thing is that IMDO is just one surgery. How many procedures do you need to fix everything and also, can you even do that. My arch is narrow and high, my nose is off center from scrunched up nasal septum. Also, I'm really disappointed that he couldn't just say why he thought why our jaws didn't grow. I agree the soft food thing always seemed a bit stupid. But, I thought vitamin A,D,K deficiency and also use of bottles to feed babies could explain it. Though, I may seen some people with very wide 12 tooth smiles and their mothers used bottles I think. I'm not sure what if any orthodontics they got. He needs to ask the jaw growth question. I can't wait for that!
Him saying diet doesn’t impact impacted wisdom teeth I have to disagree jaw size and processing of food is directly correlated idk
It’s not
@DavidFoundCo lol it is I'm betting cause my 90 year old grandmother has so much mouth space she has room BEHIND her wisdom teeth.
@@DavidFoundCo look at weston a price's research (most importantly his book) then open your mouth.
@@sjisekek9637 I didn’t chew very hard foods growing up and have all my wisdom teeth. People like you think it’s not genetics but that’s mostly what it boils down to
@@DavidFoundCo when you process food you lose nutritional value that's what I'm talking about, Weston a price's book talks about the correlation of nutrition and proper facial growth and dental hygiene.
Does anyone know what it means if you don’t have any wisdom teeth in your mid 20s and is there anything we can do about it?
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You had your wisdom teeth removed at 11? Wow, I was 14 when I had mine well as my premolars. I have had DJS and I have enough bone space back there to restore my wisdom teeth. Not sure I’ll do it but my bone length was really expanded with surgery and my airway is very healthy now. Wish you the best of luck.
I’m sorry but insisting “soft diets have nothing to do with impacted wisdom teeth” is a very bold statement to make Dr. 😅
Dr. Alfaro is the best imo
Wow all this time I never considered that while splitting the suture certainly widens the nasal base triangle the soft tissue inside may remain the same
Also the insights about unpleasant dreams and shallow sleep vs pleasant dreams and deep sleep was interesting
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Also, this guy just said that MSE doesn’t work, it clearly as day fucking does, Ron himself got the surgery and not only that there’s hundreds of ppl online that say they can breathe so much better with their new expansion so this dude is not open minded at all
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when i try to suction mew, my tongue bloat out and my half closed teeth start to make contact with it, is there any way to prevent this
23:15 he’s saying bloke when in reality it will be a bot
IS THERE ANY POSSIBLE WAY TO GET WISDOM TEETH IMPLANTED AFTER JAW SURGERY??? I give so many fucke about my wisdom teeth getting put back in my mouth, I will travel the ends of the fucking earth I stg I don’t gaf, I’m getting my health BACK NO MATTER WHAT
You could trade a toe for the jaw surgery. probably not good to use the toe surgeon for the jaws, though
What are you chewing?
He chews Tomazoo's Stronger Gum! Look in the description for "Ron's Favorite Mewing Gum"
OMGGGGG