I wish instead of how normal Starscream constantly tries to usurp Megatron, Shattered Glass Starscream should pull a "GET DOWN MR. PRESIDENT!" for SG Megatron at every opportunity.
@@The_Calcium_Kingyes, even when megatron gets annoyed by it he’s glad he have someone at his side that cared enough to keep him safe and give up his life for him
Hey Soundwave, you want a compassionate Megatron? Watch Earthspark. Normally, Megs absolutely despises humans. In ES, he is inspired to switch sides after meeting a soldier named Dorothy Malto. They're essentially besties, lol.
@@KingdomofEvania100 Earthspark is painful to watch. Want a good story about Megatron having an actual kinda-sorta redemption without butchering his characterization? Then read the the IDW comic run of More then Meets the eye. There his change of heart is due to a long journey and is actually somewhat believable without involving a completely cringeworthy relationship with vomit-inducing subtext between Megatron and a human.
both will be so depressed now knowing what could have been, but also now knowing there monstrous mass murdering version of them...if it is IDW then SG Megatron will at least have peace knowing his counter apart become better. Optimus meanwhile will feel shame over his SG version
I think this version of them are different. Orion are more ambitious, cunning, and opportunistic miners who always planning to steal power from sentinel to reach top ladders. D16 are more clueless yet kindhearted miners who really genuine belief with his duty and caring with others
I feel like evil Optimus is more evil than normal megatron, or at least not as relatable/understandable. He didn’t go insane or lose his principles, he didn’t have any to begin with
to be fair, starscream _is_ competent, it's just that his massive ego and vanity leave him eating shit like 5 minutes after he pulls off any successful plan lol. I'd imagine that shattered glass starscream not being such a self-absorbed dick is probably a huge factor as to why he's so competent, he just literally no reason to yell "Megatron has fallen, I am the new leader!" every 5 seconds lol
@@redline841 Tf Armada Starscream I think is the One of the Strongest Versions of the Character. He fought Galvatrom Head on In a Duel for a Long Period of Time. Easily Stronger than Emperor Versions.
Its always amazing to see AUs like shattered glass. Supposedly the Shattered glass universe was gonna be in transformers animated but the next season of animated was cancelled
Nah I'm glad. IDW completely missed the point by making the story more serious than Shattered Glass should ever be. Fun Pub remains the true Shattered Glass
I think one of the things that SG does well is the fact it keeps the characters personalities, while under different circumstances with different issues, they’re all fundamentally still themselves, A lot of ‘switch’ stories just change the characters to fit with their opposites molds, Character X just acts like character Z while vice versa Meanwhile SG, character X still acts like character X just in character Z’s situation
@@DerekUpNorth what I think I like more is that they aren't more Cunning then they would be. They don't feel extra this or that to swap the narrative. Since it's current time the autobots are winning as much as they would be in the other universe. The only reason it looks so desperate is because the autobots are killers. At a time the decepticons were winning. They just aren't in contact with the deceptions that would turn the battle. Like tarn hasn't shown up yet. Jetfire was on the fence.
I also recommend to you, and your audience to check out the Original Shattered Glass that was released back when Fun Publications had the rights to host BotCon, aka the storyline that started back in 2008 where Classics (or G1 Marvel Comics US) Cliffjumper was accidentally transported over to an alternate universe where Autobots are evil and Decepticons are good
I've seen some comments here asking to cover the Original Run of Shattered Glass by Fun Pub and I think that would be great. Fun Pub really liked multiverse stories so almost none of it is entirely contained in the shattered glass universe. Also there were several tie in toys receiving a scattered and limited release between 2008 and 2016 that have various little nods to the history of the franchise. Like the Optimus toy having "I Shall Stand. The Rest Shall Fall" painted on the side of his truck mode.
@@DerekUpNorth TFWiki is probably your best bet for that. It's one of the most comprehensive fan wiki's on the internet and a lot of the admins for it were the guys that helped Fun Pub with the majority of their stories.
Nice to have seen Shattered Glass get some much-deserved attention from Hasbro (even if the new toys & the short IDW run weren't quite what we expected or hoped for); hope to see more people talk about the original Shattered Glass fiction & toys from the FunPub days get more discussion outside of Transformers circles as well (:
Imagine G1 but the roles are reversed. No litterally like megatron being the one to explain to spike what their faction means and Thundercracker being the earth finatic lol. Imagine Having Rumble (FIRRIB) as the kid apeal
the funny thing is i just litterally had the thought the other day "what if optimus was megatron" then i randomly got shown your short on Shattered Glass 2 and here i am.
That was a breath of fresh air watching the roles reversed. I suppose prime's more recent sentiment in the new live action movies "at all cost" made him worse than his foes. Funny though considering him terminating himself after realizing he cheating in a game... the two different prime walking two different paths show he could have been Megatron at any juncture in the lore!!!😢😢
It was shard to follow at first I didn't think they would be still autobots but once I started to understand I couldn't stop. I have been following the comics of transformers for a while but I never heard of this story. Ive always felt the decepatacons were not really evil (after watching the Netflix animation mini series)
There was actually a fanfiction series named Transformers Mirrorverse on the internet that had the same idea years earlier. I´m not sure if the authors were inspired by it or if it is coincidence.
My biggest problem with shattered glass is that the decepticons just don’t work well as good guys when they still have more aggressive designs and are literally called decepticons and the autobots just look goofy with evil repaints
Great video. I loved the story but Im not a fan of a lot of the color palettes they used. I also dont like how extremely ruthless they make the bad Autobots. They are far more sadistic then the normal Decepticons.
It's probably because they represent a lot of good things like justice and kindness in their regular versions. Which makes them very bad and cruel when inverting their roles
Obviously your opinion on the color pallets is subjective and I have no issue with you not being a fan. I will say back in 2008 when this concept was created it was done by hardcore fans of transformers and a good number of the color swaps are based on something within the franchise for the most part. Optimus= Galvatron, Grimlock= Tripticon, Ultra Magnus= His original color scheme from the early drafts of the 1986 film.
Of course he’s a baker! What started as a hobby became his obsession. He perfected his craft and became renowned for his Energon Cakes. This landed him a spot on a season of Master Chef Cybertron. And after a fierce competition he defeated Perceptor to become the new winner of Master Chef Cybertron. Now he spends his days developing new recipes for his chain of bakeries all across Cybertron called Calculated Cravings.
I’ve always been interested in the Shattered Glass universe, it’s just extremely intriguing to me how the story would change if the bots and cons roles were swapped
I love how comic book artists and animators often show robots using fabric cloaks as disguise and expect everybody else to go with it. (I mean, does anybody really think a flimsy piece of cloth can protect robots from cold weather or dust storms?)
You’re not wrong. As mentioned in the description; this video highlights the events that take place prior to Shattered Glass II. Which I’ll break down as well.
It alternate universe where Ideal and goal of both side switch. I bet Megatron hold the matrix and pretty much embody Megatronus Prime strength and courage
What I like about this palar universe is that neither Orion nor Megatron are wrong but the difference is that one went too far in the normal universe it was Megatron in this it is Orion
I feel ya 😅 my wallet isn’t big enough for the amount of comics I want to read. Which is exactly why I decided to do this, I’m glad you enjoyed the vid.
While the role reversal stuff is fun and all, im pretty sure the point of the mirrorverse which is what shattered glass is based on, wasn't just making good characters bad and bad characters good. It was to show how different humanity would be had they chose a different path in startreck and became a facist empire, the aliens like vulcans were still, good people after all. It was just humanity that had gone wrong... And I tend to find those stories more interesting...
There is the fan made shattered glass prime comic series by sound bluster on deviant. Unfortunately it was recently put on indefinite hiatus for various reasons (including toxic fans and harassment unfortunately), but it’s a good read which keeps the vibe of SG and prime. While unfinished, it’s still brilliant.
See if your local comic book shop has one on hand or if they can order one in for you. You could also try Amazon or eBay but you’d be paying resale value, unfortunately.
Here is a question if optimus prime and megatron have switched rolls where prime is the villain and megatron's the hero does that mean megatron has the matrix instead of prime.?
Optimus the side of good Hmmm. Good to Earth. Cybertron is Megatrons first priority. Optimus is willing to risk the saftey and future of Cybertron for the sake and the well being of other beings and planets. Sort of like when tree huggers go crazy and drive steel spikes into trees so when lumberjacks cut them down their chain breaks and often eithier mames them or kills them causing pain to a fellow human and their families choosing a tree over a human. Fight for one side long enough and time will turn you into a Villian. Energon comes at the sake of other life forms. The houses we live in come at the sake of living trees the rubber we wear on our shoes sends tiny picies of plastic on the street and rubber with every step we take polluting our rivers, lakes and oceans. In Star wars Obi Wan adress this by saying alot of how we see things depends on a certuan point of view.
Continue the story....Shattered Glass II Issue 1 is now available ruclips.net/video/qMpLN9Wsd-s/видео.html
I just love the fact that starscream isn’t a cowardly traitor and is actually a well respected character with morals and Megaatroan right hand man.
Starscream a loyal ride or die soldier and friend of Megatron? One could say he’s the SG universe’s equivalent to Bumblebee
I wish instead of how normal Starscream constantly tries to usurp Megatron, Shattered Glass Starscream should pull a "GET DOWN MR. PRESIDENT!" for SG Megatron at every opportunity.
@@The_Calcium_Kingyes, even when megatron gets annoyed by it he’s glad he have someone at his side that cared enough to keep him safe and give up his life for him
@@demonicdeku1066 it would be funny to see Megatron trip over a rock and Starscream just blasts it back to Primus
Hearing compassionate and megatron in the same sentence hurt my brain for a moment. 😆
valid 💯 😂
Hey Soundwave, you want a compassionate Megatron? Watch Earthspark.
Normally, Megs absolutely despises humans. In ES, he is inspired to switch sides after meeting a soldier named Dorothy Malto. They're essentially besties, lol.
@@KingdomofEvania100 Earthspark is painful to watch. Want a good story about Megatron having an actual kinda-sorta redemption without butchering his characterization? Then read the the IDW comic run of More then Meets the eye. There his change of heart is due to a long journey and is actually somewhat believable without involving a completely cringeworthy relationship with vomit-inducing subtext between Megatron and a human.
@@_Muzolf
I've seen videos on it. I like Megatron has a good guy.
Megatron and Dorothy in my mind are purely platonic. Dot has a husband, lol.
Exactly my thoughts🤣🤣
imagine good Optimus and and compassionate Megatron meeting
if you think about it, thats something he dreams of. he wants his friend back.
True
both will be so depressed now knowing what could have been, but also now knowing there monstrous mass murdering version of them...if it is IDW then SG Megatron will at least have peace knowing his counter apart become better. Optimus meanwhile will feel shame over his SG version
Bros
Basically before both obtained enough power to make a change
Transformers One: Shattered Glass Editon
D-16: Orion… No…
Orion Pax: I’M DONE SAVING YOU.
nah i think should something eles like
D-16: orion don't
orion pax : i must do it for us all
@@idkwhattonamenguyen7034
Till all are one
I think this version of them are different.
Orion are more ambitious, cunning, and opportunistic miners who always planning to steal power from sentinel to reach top ladders.
D16 are more clueless yet kindhearted miners who really genuine belief with his duty and caring with others
What would sentinel prime be here?
@@ruffruggednraw actual good leader
I feel like evil Optimus is more evil than normal megatron, or at least not as relatable/understandable. He didn’t go insane or lose his principles, he didn’t have any to begin with
Very different than even TF1 Megatron
Starscream being competent is really funny
It’s definitely a complete 180 on his character
to be fair, starscream _is_ competent, it's just that his massive ego and vanity leave him eating shit like 5 minutes after he pulls off any successful plan lol. I'd imagine that shattered glass starscream not being such a self-absorbed dick is probably a huge factor as to why he's so competent, he just literally no reason to yell "Megatron has fallen, I am the new leader!" every 5 seconds lol
And also Loyal
Competent Starscream is rare, but not his opposite. TF Cybertron had the Starscream gain the alloys to throw hands with Megatron/Galvatron
@@redline841 Tf Armada Starscream I think is the One of the Strongest Versions of the Character. He fought Galvatrom Head on In a Duel for a Long Period of Time. Easily Stronger than Emperor Versions.
Its always amazing to see AUs like shattered glass. Supposedly the Shattered glass universe was gonna be in transformers animated but the next season of animated was cancelled
Yeah we almost had Optimus prime say the iconic yes of David Kaye.
What a missed opportunity to change his name from Optimus Prime to Optimus Crime 🗣️
😂 😂 😂
✍️ 🔥
FR
Bars
XD
It’s too bad IDW lost the license before they could compete the story
Or maybe they can still do it if Hasbro lets them even tho they lost the license
@@timmyhaymore7125 Nope, IMAGE has that license and the new comics are selling well so best chances is a reboot of the SG universe.
Agreed
Nooooo
Nah I'm glad. IDW completely missed the point by making the story more serious than Shattered Glass should ever be. Fun Pub remains the true Shattered Glass
I think one of the things that SG does well is the fact it keeps the characters personalities, while under different circumstances with different issues, they’re all fundamentally still themselves,
A lot of ‘switch’ stories just change the characters to fit with their opposites molds, Character X just acts like character Z while vice versa
Meanwhile SG, character X still acts like character X just in character Z’s situation
Man, Jetfire actually seems like one of the more decent Autobots, kept trying to save starscream.
It’s so wholesome that first time Starscream and Megatron are in good terms, buddies and he idolized Megatron
“Decepticons wage their battle to destroy the evil forces of…the Autobots?”
I just love the alternate designs in Shattered Glass.
They are pretty sweet!
@@DerekUpNorth what I think I like more is that they aren't more Cunning then they would be. They don't feel extra this or that to swap the narrative. Since it's current time the autobots are winning as much as they would be in the other universe. The only reason it looks so desperate is because the autobots are killers. At a time the decepticons were winning. They just aren't in contact with the deceptions that would turn the battle. Like tarn hasn't shown up yet. Jetfire was on the fence.
I also recommend to you, and your audience to check out the Original Shattered Glass that was released back when Fun Publications had the rights to host BotCon, aka the storyline that started back in 2008 where Classics (or G1 Marvel Comics US) Cliffjumper was accidentally transported over to an alternate universe where Autobots are evil and Decepticons are good
I WOULD PAY TO SEE THIS AS A MOVIE LIKE TRANSFORMERS ONE
Transformers negative one : Shattered glass
Yo that would be epic, I would finally see how it would be like if the roles were swapped
@ true
I've seen some comments here asking to cover the Original Run of Shattered Glass by Fun Pub and I think that would be great. Fun Pub really liked multiverse stories so almost none of it is entirely contained in the shattered glass universe. Also there were several tie in toys receiving a scattered and limited release between 2008 and 2016 that have various little nods to the history of the franchise. Like the Optimus toy having "I Shall Stand. The Rest Shall Fall" painted on the side of his truck mode.
I just have to figure out the reading order for the original Shattered Glass run and I'll happily cover it. I've never had the chance to read it.
@@DerekUpNorth TFWiki is probably your best bet for that. It's one of the most comprehensive fan wiki's on the internet and a lot of the admins for it were the guys that helped Fun Pub with the majority of their stories.
@dominicmason8687 I appreciate that! Thanks
The deceptibots vs rhe autocons
Imagine a fight with the vicious desperate bumblebee (SG Gold Bug) and our heroic bumblebee (G1)
“Twisted Mirror” is a great Star Trek episode name
Nice to have seen Shattered Glass get some much-deserved attention from Hasbro (even if the new toys & the short IDW run weren't quite what we expected or hoped for);
hope to see more people talk about the original Shattered Glass fiction & toys from the FunPub days get more discussion outside of Transformers circles as well (:
Starscream begging Megatron to take command again is a very funny 180
This is the best Alternate universe ever.
Imagine G1 but the roles are reversed. No litterally like megatron being the one to explain to spike what their faction means and Thundercracker being the earth finatic lol. Imagine Having Rumble (FIRRIB) as the kid apeal
Spike can be a car robber
the funny thing is i just litterally had the thought the other day "what if optimus was megatron" then i randomly got shown your short on Shattered Glass 2 and here i am.
Good to have ya!
I loved this whole video which happens to be the first one I see of your channel. Def subscribing and looking forward to the next part of this story
Appreciate that. Thank you!
That was a breath of fresh air watching the roles reversed. I suppose prime's more recent sentiment in the new live action movies "at all cost" made him worse than his foes. Funny though considering him terminating himself after realizing he cheating in a game... the two different prime walking two different paths show he could have been Megatron at any juncture in the lore!!!😢😢
I love the shattered glass version of sound wave and shockwave
This Optimus is just Bayverse Prime from The Last Knight.
It was shard to follow at first I didn't think they would be still autobots but once I started to understand I couldn't stop. I have been following the comics of transformers for a while but I never heard of this story. Ive always felt the decepatacons were not really evil (after watching the Netflix animation mini series)
All a matter of perception
There was actually a fanfiction series named Transformers Mirrorverse on the internet that had the same idea years earlier. I´m not sure if the authors were inspired by it or if it is coincidence.
The fact Shattered glass starscream is the loyalist 2nd in command
Next to Transformers Armada Starscream
This make me wonder what Sentinel Prime would be like in shattered glass
My biggest problem with shattered glass is that the decepticons just don’t work well as good guys when they still have more aggressive designs and are literally called decepticons and the autobots just look goofy with evil repaints
Thundercracker fan here
😁👍
Great video. I loved the story but Im not a fan of a lot of the color palettes they used. I also dont like how extremely ruthless they make the bad Autobots. They are far more sadistic then the normal Decepticons.
Optimus and Goldbug are absolute SAVAGES 😅
It's probably because they represent a lot of good things like justice and kindness in their regular versions. Which makes them very bad and cruel when inverting their roles
That's the point
Obviously your opinion on the color pallets is subjective and I have no issue with you not being a fan. I will say back in 2008 when this concept was created it was done by hardcore fans of transformers and a good number of the color swaps are based on something within the franchise for the most part. Optimus= Galvatron, Grimlock= Tripticon, Ultra Magnus= His original color scheme from the early drafts of the 1986 film.
I associate starscream and jetfire's relationship in this comic with "two birds on a wire" because i saw an animatic of the two set to it.
I love this youtube channel.
Thanks!
Jetfire: YOU CAN'T ESCAPE ME I'LL CHASE YOU TO THE END OF CYBERTRON!!!!!!!! GOLDBUG *GOLDBUUUUUUUGGGGG!!!!!!*
I gotta wonder what the opposite-day version of shockwave is, what does he bake cookies and cakes now?
Of course he’s a baker! What started as a hobby became his obsession. He perfected his craft and became renowned for his Energon Cakes. This landed him a spot on a season of Master Chef Cybertron. And after a fierce competition he defeated Perceptor to become the new winner of Master Chef Cybertron. Now he spends his days developing new recipes for his chain of bakeries all across Cybertron called Calculated Cravings.
4:42 honestly... Orion has A GOOD POINT here.
So bumblebee is the personal punching bag not starscream in this reality 😂
i love how starscream character also alter his main traits from coward liar to brave and true
If Megatron was a good guy, he’d probably be just as ruthless as Michael Bay Optimus.
I’ve always been interested in the Shattered Glass universe, it’s just extremely intriguing to me how the story would change if the bots and cons roles were swapped
I love how comic book artists and animators often show robots using fabric cloaks as disguise and expect everybody else to go with it. (I mean, does anybody really think a flimsy piece of cloth can protect robots from cold weather or dust storms?)
wait, that's no where near the end of shattered glass, magnus hasn't got disfigured yet
That’s Shattered Glass II 😅
@@DerekUpNorth but the universe idea Is just called Shattered Glass
You’re not wrong. As mentioned in the description; this video highlights the events that take place prior to Shattered Glass II. Which I’ll break down as well.
@@DerekUpNorth OOooooh, that explains. I was about to comment something similar lol
"RISE.... megatronus prime...."
Shattered glass Starscream x Soundwave is fast approaching.
It alternate universe where Ideal and goal of both side switch. I bet Megatron hold the matrix and pretty much embody Megatronus Prime strength and courage
we need a show about this
I do like that the Autobots are still called Autobots and vice versa for the 'cons
I really hope someday someone covers the original Shattered Glass story. Not the IDW one.
It’s on my radar. Sooo it could happen.
Good versions of bad guys will always be sick!
Ain’t that the truth!
What I like about this palar universe is that neither Orion nor Megatron are wrong but the difference is that one went too far in the normal universe it was Megatron in this it is Orion
never though Megatron and the word compassion would be in the same sentence that has a good context.
The red Decpeticon emblem goes hard
Shatteres Glass was a fanmade comic on Deviantart
holy f, this really good alt universe
I love this trope.
I wonder will we ever see the combaticons in the future issues of shattered glass
Love the decepticons here, 😈 Autobots 🤢
Wow what a cool new take on the transformers. Will there be more?
Definitely! I’ll be covering a ton of Transformers in the future.
wait but this is only part 1! The story isn't over yet!
I am currently reading it 😅 so stick around for Shattered Glass II
@@DerekUpNorth Can't wait for that!
Good video
Glad you enjoyed
Starscream being a loyal discipline makes me twitch
This is fascinating
I love that the desipcons are good
Megatron being nice ? Huh I never thought I would see this in my life
Decptibots and autocons
Just what I need before going to sleep
Thank you for listening to my sweet, sultry tones 😂 sleep well!
Thanks for the video! Been getting back into transformers since the trailer for tfo dropped and the comics are expensive 😅 this was great watch
I feel ya 😅 my wallet isn’t big enough for the amount of comics I want to read. Which is exactly why I decided to do this, I’m glad you enjoyed the vid.
tho owning these comics would be awesome, u can still read them online for free.
Shattered glass is just the normal universe except the story writer really focuses on megatrons backstory and the reason he became a gladiator💀
The one time I actually love starscream
While the role reversal stuff is fun and all, im pretty sure the point of the mirrorverse which is what shattered glass is based on, wasn't just making good characters bad and bad characters good. It was to show how different humanity would be had they chose a different path in startreck and became a facist empire, the aliens like vulcans were still, good people after all. It was just humanity that had gone wrong...
And I tend to find those stories more interesting...
Oof
There is the fan made shattered glass prime comic series by sound bluster on deviant. Unfortunately it was recently put on indefinite hiatus for various reasons (including toxic fans and harassment unfortunately), but it’s a good read which keeps the vibe of SG and prime. While unfinished, it’s still brilliant.
I might have to check this out, thanks!
@@DerekUpNorth glad to have recommended it
I wonder how Airachind would be in this scenario? Probably still nightmare fuel.
I feel like the shattered glass deceptions should be called *Defendicons* y'know?
We need a sequel
There is one. Shattered Glass II is linked in the description.
Y’know what? I’m just gonna call them Autocons and Deceptibots
If you think this is weird wait until you realize in real life that the Palestinians were always the good guys
Transformers Shattered Glass 2
Issue 1 drops this upcoming Monday ✌🏻
Do you happen to know where they sell physical copies?
See if your local comic book shop has one on hand or if they can order one in for you. You could also try Amazon or eBay but you’d be paying resale value, unfortunately.
Here is a question if optimus prime and megatron have switched rolls where prime is the villain and megatron's the hero does that mean megatron has the matrix instead of prime.?
I NEED AN ENDING😭😭😭😭😭
Shattered Glass 2 is already up!
@@DerekUpNorth yoo tnx!
Jetfire ans Starscream is so cute together im crying.Doomed robot yaoi
Wait, so shattered glass universe was a real comic series?! I thought is was a alternate universe the transformers fandom made up!!
it's a real series, published by both IDW and Fun Publications
Is this characters a extrapolation of Nemesis Prime?
Thats it? That all there is?
No, I’ll be covering Shattered Glass II soon.
@@DerekUpNorth Ok cool.
ruined my childhood! 😆
so even if the roles are reversed, they still somewhat retain their core character traits but placed in the context of them being either good or evil?
Optimus the side of good Hmmm. Good to Earth. Cybertron is Megatrons first priority. Optimus is willing to risk the saftey and future of Cybertron for the sake and the well being of other beings and planets. Sort of like when tree huggers go crazy and drive steel spikes into trees so when lumberjacks cut them down their chain breaks and often eithier mames them or kills them causing pain to a fellow human and their families choosing a tree over a human. Fight for one side long enough and time will turn you into a Villian. Energon comes at the sake of other life forms. The houses we live in come at the sake of living trees the rubber we wear on our shoes sends tiny picies of plastic on the street and rubber with every step we take polluting our rivers, lakes and oceans. In Star wars Obi Wan adress this by saying alot of how we see things depends on a certuan point of view.
Dornian Heresy.
😮
bro megatron is letery me
😊😊
This is bc
Not going to lie. I dislike this series. Never appealed to me.
Nothing wrong with that! Got a recommendation for a comic you do like? Maybe I’ll cover it in the future.
Propaganda. I won't hear of it.