Luckily the Batman suiting up scene in Arkham Knight wasn’t like what happened in Joel Schumacher’s film (Batman & Robin) what with the camera zooming in on his Bat nips & Bat glutes other wise he would of really had a field day😅😂. Also rest in peace Joel Schumacher...
I was done with Mayo's video as soon as he said he can't get into the world of Arkham knight cause he's not a Batman fan, but right after he says he liked Arkham city because it felt like an authentic Batman world. This man's stupidity is mind boggling!
He strikes me as one of those people that will say whatever they can to try and make a point, even if they have no point to make. You know, a rambling idiot who thinks they're the most intelligent person in the room.
I concur, Arkham Knight is also my favorite Batman game. The whole Batman Experience imo. More dense and challenging than the Insomniac Spider-Man games too, which were obviously made with inspiration from the Arkham games.
@@pakman0049The Spider-Man games were inspired by the previous Spider-Man games, there’s honestly like nothing similar between the combat systems other than square to attack and triangle + circle to perform a finisher, the stealth segments are more of a copy of the Amazing Spider-Man games, as for traversal, all you have to do in Spider-Man is to hit triangle to glide, you can even do barrel rolls with the web wings while in Arkham, all you have to do is just grapnel boost, dive, and glide a lot to get to places, I do think that the Arkham games are more harder though
him complaining about batman getting a new suit to help him, literally is what batman does in any movie he calls fox and says he needs a better suit and gets one
I think there's no denying that they choose an awkward moment for that suit-up scene. In the preview, that animation happened in Fox's office in Wayne tower. In the game, they cut and pasted the sequence into a scene that kinda killed the story momentum. Not because Batman didn't need to get new equipment for a new challenge, but because the slow, methodical suit-up that worked gorgeously for the game's first sneak peek didn't work for a moment that required much more urgency. But is a deal-breaker? Hardly. It's a nit-pick.
either mayo is rage batting or his brain completely shut off, complaining about the Suit-up scene and calling it porn make no sense, that is like calling iron man suit-up scenes porn or Doom guy suit-up scenes porn or even Isaac Clarke from dead space suit upgrades to be porn, if he used his brain for half a second he would realize that it is just a suit-up scene to get a good look at the new armor, wow, it's almost like peapol want to take a brief look at some of the details of a new armor or suit upgrade that is either an improvement or adds new abilities or even if the armor just looks cool, and if he did not like the new suit in Knight you could change skins, imagen calling a suit upgrade porn because you get a suit-up scene that does not even last 20 seconds and you can change your skin if you don't like the new armor, like wtf?
Under The Mayo got a huge ego ever since his review of DOOM Eternal blew up. He's extremely full of himself and refuses to ever admit he's been wrong before. Just look at his Ultrakill videos or Trepang² videos. His Sifu videos are also incredibly bad and when he's called out for being a hypocrite or just blatantly spreading false info about the games he resorts to acting like a child. Also his Elden Ring stream just needs to be watched. It's just embarrassing.
0:16 If you want a quick run down on the guy. He is a massive DOOM Eternal fan BUT he dislikes every other game because they aren't like doom. He made horrible videos abouth other games too such as ultrakill.
Ultrakill really set him up on a path to replace synthetic man as the most obnoxious gaming channel on the platform. These 2 can literally complain about anything except the game they are covering and even when they do cover the game, its some of the most out-there surface-level condescending bull**** takes you will ever hear.
I think some youtubers are frankly being too easy on him. F this guy. He's a ragebaiter who spelled knight as "night" in his title so he could generate controversy to get more ad revenue.
Tbh I was like those youtubers, but that review was just a blatant attempt to piss people off. He lost me there. Maybe he realized he can't make good videos after doom eternal, and embraces the rage baiting as a final attempt at making a name for himself.
You forgot about the fact that he stopped playing at the Harley Quinn section and STILL decided to make a review. People somehow defend him by calling his review a ‘first impression’ which makes no sense
Nah he's rage baiting, why is he complaining so much about the suit up scene???, the Reason the suit up scene exists in Arkham Knight is *LITERALLY* because that's how basic game design works by showing the player the new abilities they have at their disposal and teaching the player how to use them while also its the fact that batman suits up because he's literally about to fight an entire *MILITARY* so obviously he has to upgrade his shit so he can stand a chance against the new and more powerful enemies in the game, that's literally what superheroes do, anyone with intelligence can see that and he's exaggerating it by constantly implying getting "ple@sure" from Batman 😂
@@MattTGM I think part of the reason why the batmobile gets a lot of hate for being overused is the side missions like mr freeze, militia bombs, firefly, Deathstroke and riddler for instance which all force you to use the batmobile especially riddler where instead of running my fade like a real man he wants me to run my wheels on his race tracks because he's salty and had catwoman captured for the majority of the game and especially Deathstroke only because everybody played Arkham Origins before Arkham Knight which I completely understand personally
@@SpiderSora absolutely, its the overuse Militia Bombs are whatever, its just more combat Firefly, its not bad, just very disappointing when we saw him in Origins as an awesome boss Mr Freeze, it was one race and one tank battle, the only one in the DLC, so that's not so bad. and contextually, it works perfectly for the sidequest Deathstrokes Tank was awful. 100% a huge letdown The Riddler is a personal preference thing. I liked his racetracks and batmobile puzzles, seeing as we'd already done pure Batman Riddler Rooms in City and Origins, but if people were tired of them I could understand it
And he continues it by complaining about the optional tutorials breaking his immersion, because “oh no, why isn’t he saving the hostages instead of doing vr training missions” my fucking God is just a tutorial and it’s optional.
15:18 Didn't Knerd mention in his video that his response video started with him vocally mocking the people who criticized his review? It's just really funny he tries to take a moral high ground after that lol
What really keeps me up at night is the things he said after calling it "batman porn." Commenting on how he doesn't actually know anything about batman to begin with but somehow feels Arkham City is more "accurate" to his character. It has to take an insane amount of inflated ego to say "I don't know anything about what I'm looking at but I think this is incorrect". It's almost revolting imo.
"Too much on screen", he says in the game where the most HUD you're going to see in regular gameplay is the health bar, the combo counter, and the compass, all of which are neatly condensed and barely take up any screen space.
The sad thing is that Mayo used to be the goat for this stuff back then When he wasn’t saying his garbage opinions on games like Ultrakill he would be slam dunking it on Doom Eternal, and was one of the few people back then that understood the purpose of the Marauder He actually is very impactful to the DE scene with his incredibly helpful guides for unused weapon mods And then his reviews on other games showed and man i was so disappointed
@@Splashzone263 exactly. His DOOM Eternal content is fully good and legit from what I've heard. But it seems that he hates everything else he plays, in part because it's not DOOM Eternal
Thank you for bringing up that the Batmobile was never useable in the previous games, since after playing Asylum and City (now Origins) I couldn’t wait to use that darn thing in Knight I also did a lot of roaming and Riddler stuff as Batman with all the Mark 2/3/4 grapple boost stuff being introduced, so I never had a complaint about “too much batmobile”
Me personally I feel like the only real valid “Batmobile used too much” is that we didn’t get true boss fights for deathstroke and that first Arkham knight encounter. And no final fight for firefly. Outside that, I personally don’t think it was overused. DLC included I think the like 16 percent is a very reasonable amount of usage for such an integral thing. Just wish we had gotten those boss fights though
@@GBelmont87the boss fights can be summed up to origins since people would complain that they are copy pasted. Not to mention the fact that since it’s the first use of the Batmobile in gaming, it’s not gonna be perfect. People forget that asylum’s combat and stealth is pure ass compared to city and especially knight. They could’ve easily started with city’s gameplay so why do they give asylum a pass
@@Yourfat247 oh no I definitely agree. My ONLY complaint is those boss fights, I would have gladly taken a spruced up reuse of those fights in knight over the tank battles. But the Batmobile and BM combat by far (imo) is very well done and I have no issues with it. I love how it handles while driving and how it plays as a tank. I think it’s awesome
I think it's fair to say the Batmobile was overused. Unlike the stealth and brawl combat mechanics, tank combat doesn''t have nearly enough depth to warrant that much repeated use. And I found it very hard to learn the racing controls, but that may be because I was playing on PC, which wasn't the right way to go. I could never quite master drifting, as the hand-break is the left-shift, which you have to hold with your pinky. Regardless, using the Batmobile on my first playthrough was pure frustration. So I understand why someone might rage-quit. The game has a much steeper learning curve than the first two entries.
I am personally convinced that Under the Mayo has a super power that wraps reality around him whenever he plays a game that isn't Doom Eternal, and makes him see anything, that isn't this game, shit.
What @chumcalmdown said is true Basically you can tell that rocksteady is proud with how they use the batmobile and deservingly so but for a lot of people they might be a tad too proud as it was used on times that ya might not need (good chuck of riddler throphies are just cars) and the biggest hit in gut was too many tank battle in place it doesnt make sense (deathstroke boss battle comes to mind) i think if tank battle was reduce by a quarter people would've hate it less cause bat mobile is a great addition
@@raden1287it’s not even a quarter of the game and people loathe it. Asylum’s boss fights are far worse (like joker) and guess what? It was the FIRST. The tank fights are needed and are the only vehicles that can fight the Batmobile. Most riddler trophies are on foot and a good chunk of challenges are in the orphanage. I believe that if people weren’t so biased and actually gave it a chance then they wouldn’t be so harsh since they praise asylum for the same reasons
As for someone who grew up playing every Arkham Batman game including Origins that had 100% every riddler challenges in all Batman game. When he said “Batman porn” gave me a massive headache and less Brain cells, but with all honesty I still enjoy Arkham Knight to this day i don’t know where he was talking about.
Batman porn is exactly what I signed up for. And this game definitely delivered. Those lascivious closeups of the Batmobie's tires really rev my engine.
Arkham Knight is actually my favourite game out of the 'main three' (sorry, Origins!), for multiple reasons. The biggest one of which is the introduction of the Grapple Launcher Boost, and the Batmobile and its ejector seat, all three of which massively speed up traversal across this large map. One thing I tend to hate about open-world games is travelling across such large maps, and in a series where skip travelling/teleporting/fast travelling isn't available, being able to soar rapidly across the map is VITAL - and Arkham City absolutely lacked this. Travelling across City felt so slow, tedious, and cumbersome without the Grapple Launcher Boost or the Batmobile, which alone makes me disinclined to replay it; meanwhile, it takes mere minutes to go across all three of Knight's islands, which is *much* better. Secondly, there's so many goon variants in Knight - shock sticks, guys with shields, Detective Mode jammers and trackers, guys with suits that make them essentially invisible to Detective Mode, the large thugs that need to be stunned and beaten down, medics that can revive a couple goons and coat others with electricity (so if you punch them, you get shocked), and more. This makes both combat and stealth takedowns much more interesting, compared to City. Thirdly, fewer Riddle trophies and stuff. Enough said about this. Fourthly, I don't like Catwoman, so I hated how I was forced to periodically play as her in City; here in Knight, she's relegated solely to Ridder's sidequest, and is a nonentity otherwise. Ideally she wouldn't have returned whatsoever, but this is good enough. Similarly, Barbara is using her Oracle role, so she stays out of combat and provides support neither Robin nor Nightwing could provide - a fantastic use of her character; Batgirl is only usable in a DLC thing, which...why?...but otherwise not in the main game, thankfully. Fifthly, I don't actually mind the Batmobile gameplay; in my opinion, it's definitely not overused at all, having just the right amount of presence to provide a nice gameplay switch from Batman himself every now and then. Sure, the Cloudburst (and Deathstroke) fights are tedious as hell, but against regular drones and even the standard larger tanks? It's perfectly fine, at least for me.
Fun fact about Mayo. His Ultrakill video was so universally clowned upon thaf it actually birthed a new Speedrunning category for the game. "Mayo%", where you beat the game as fast as possible using only rhe basic pistol.
haha yeah, I saw comments about that. His Ultrakill Review is... certainly one of the reviews of all time, but hey, at least it'll live on forever in infamy!
If there is one thing I learned about Mayo is that he likes being a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian. All of it is just for clout. Shitty contrarian takes is the most effecient way to get clout.
After this man's pathetic review of ultrakill, i find it quite unbelievable anyone takes what this guy says seriously. He is completely incompetent at reviewing games
The Batman suit up scene is not meant to be sexual in any way, but if he wants to go down that road, I would argue it’s actually less sexual than the other games. Arkham knight’s Batsuit is much more armored than the other games so you can’t see Batman’s giant muscles through the suit like you can in the other games. He’s literally putting on thicker clothing than the last game that now hides more of his physique, that’s like the complete opposite of sexual.
Mayo talking about how much he hates "Batmans stupid hot body" (not a direct quote) is a huge "tell on yourself" because the only thing i thought were and probably intended purpose of this animation "Yooo sick ass armor!"
Not really since you have the improved suit which upgrades the grapple and batman can go as fast as the Batmobile. It’s that there’s an army and on foot vs tanks ≠ fun
Him saying that Batman Arkham Knight is like Arkham porn or bat porn or whatever that’s literally like saying I don’t like this Batman game because it’s too much of Batman you get what you paid for buddy I don’t know what to tell you, Mr. Mayo
honestly, i love it. the dodge stuff and proper energy management... its really fun. Makes me feel like 2016 batmobile. sometimes i even get a bit of keaton mobile. i never bought armor however until i beat new game plus for the challenge though
Arkham Knight is a fantastic game, and my favourite Arkham game (though all four Arkham games have things that they do better than the other Arkham games). Yes, it has too many tank battles, not enough boss battles, both the Hush and the Asrael storylines go nowhere, and I *hate* the game's story's end, but the game does so much and so much of what it does it does extremely well, and overall I believe it's the most playable of all the Arkham games.
I like to think that there are two kinds of criticism. 1) this could be better than it is, and 2) this should be different. The first respects what the work appears to be trying to accomplish, and how it fails to achieve its goals. The second is more subjective, deciding what the work should be doing instead of what it did. "The Dark Knight Rises didn't quite get its thematic points across," vs "The Dark Knight Rises should have made different points." But I think there's actually a third kind, which comes down to, "Me me me!" "The Dark Knight Rises should have been about the Riddler, because I love the Riddler." Underthemayo's criticism seems to fall into theis third category. Criticism isn't exactly an art, but it explores our relationship with it, and so it requires a certain amount of self-reflection. When there's zero self-reflection, only the knee-jerk reaction, that "hot-take" is inevitably treated as an objective observation. Some of Underthemayo's reactions weren't without cause. But legitimate or not, his total disinterest in exploring why he had these reactions led to a comically self-indulgent rant, dismissing the entire game. It's like dismissing the whole of The Dark Knight, every plot point, performance, costume, and effect because you didn't like Christian Bale's voice. To be completely candid, I had a lot of the same reactions to Arkham Knight that Underthemayo did, at least on first playthrough. The suiting up scene is undoubtedly placed in an awkward moment, which kills the pacing of the game's first chapter. Compare the new suit's introduction to the dramatic introduction of the Batmobile, which utilizes its "Batman porn" moment to magnificent effect. I think the game made a couple of decisions like this. It presents an insurmountable barrier to an urgent problem, stopping progress. It then introduces a new game function as the challenge's solution. But wait, before you overcome this urgent problem, take 20 minutes to run a tutorial. Learning about the Batmobile's tank function did this, leaving Batman and Ivy pinned behind a door with tanks pointed out them while you learn the basics of tank combat via stimulation. It's not a huge issue, but it somewhat breaks the sense of urgency. The story is sacrificed in service of the game's game-ness. When a little reshuffling of events would have avoided that conflict. In the same way, the leisurely suit-up completely contradicts the urgency of having to rescue hostages. Had it taken place in Wayne Tower, as it did when the cut-scene was presented in the original trailer for the game, it would have been perfect. But as a long, distracting pause while hostages stand inches from death, it undeniably creates a conflict of emotion for the player. It seems obvious that the suit-up was cut and pasted. Its mood didn't quite fit the moment. Arkham knight is full of issues like this. The Batmobile's tank battles feel like an undercooked system that's overused, but that's not a deal-breaker. The Jason plotline was half-baked and sloppy, but again, not a deal-breaker. The Harley sequence broke the pacing of the game as well, feeling like a annoying digression as the story was picking up momentum. It should have come up earlier in the game. Deal breaker? Not even close. It was still a great sequence. As you say, Underthemayo's reaction is comically inappropriate to the problem. Do these foibles detract from the game experience? Yeah, of course they do. But do they ruin the game? Only if you ignore everything that's good about it. And there's just so much. I don't know about this dude, but I signed up to Arkham Knight for 50 hours of Batman porn. I didn't get that, of course. I got 500 hours. And I loved... most of it. Because I didn't let the parts that annoyed me spoil the parts that's frankly magnificent. To me, Underthemayo's rant just feels like an immature demand for attention, like a small child watching adults doing something truly impressive, and innocently going through the motions, hoping for the same applause. RUclips is full of young people watching excellent, thoughtful review videos, and thinking, "I can do that. I have opinions too!" They have no idea what it means to analyze things critically, anymore than they know how to make a movie by watching one. But that's the nature of youth. Hopefully, they'll go to college, or just learn the art of self-reflection, and eventually learn that their knee-jerk reactions aren't actual, valuable commentary, but just the raw material on which to build real thoughts. That's my hope for Underthemayo. Or else he'll get angry that "nobody gets me" and eventually stop wasting everyone's time. Either way is fine.
You know, i wonder how hed react to me calling Doom Eternal "Doom Slayer P". After all, how many times is he shown in a badass or exaggerated way? Oh look at him staring down the king in the second level. Oh look how he brutalizes his enemies in Glory Kills. Yeah, sounds disingenuous.
i like how people go "why dont the tanks have better vision, why dont the thugs look up" bro why doesnt batman just call flash. make it a flash game. even within the "lore" which wasnt confirmed back then "hey i hacked into all cell phones and scarecrows comms, i know exactly where scarecrow is, get him" or better yet superman. or maybe give bat invisibility. If you really want to nitpick why doesnt GL fix it he can show up near invisible, scan from the atmosphere for the cloudburst, destroy it, capture knight and scarecrow. boom day over the point is you can go both ways but the matter of fact is, the game works best that way and youll simply have to accept at some point that its fiction and you can imagine whatevwr you want, but eventually you need to decide whats needed for the sake of the product or the product will fail
Under the Mayo just likes looking at Batman let's be real here. I mean Batman is a good looking guy. But I would rather look at Catwoman. We all have different tastes. I'm not gonna judge.
"Why are there more colored indicators?" Oh idk, maybe because it's a SEQUEL, so naturally it's gonna have more stuff than the previous installment. Seriously, what a dumb question.
I think he half-asses his gameplay to make games look bad on purpose. Like playing games that give you multiple ways to engage in combat, but always choose the most boring way to make it look like a game issue.
Personally I don’t have much problem with what the game does, it’s what it doesn’t do that always bugged me, no good bosses like Poison Ivy from Asylum, like Freeze fron City or Deathstroke from Origins, hell even Blackgate has a couple boss highlights such as Deadshot and Catwoman, I realize Arkham Knight has a few boss “scenarios” as I’ll call them, but none ever truly felt like a boss battle I guess….i would’ve liked a couple good one-on-one duels with Jason Todd, Azrael, and someone who could’ve gave a nice 1-1 predator battle similar to Mr. Freeze…..there’s no Batcave, no other playable characters besides Batman have more than a few minutes of playtime in the main story, no martial artist enemy types from Origins (I for one miss those lol)…..I can go on, but ultimately what the game DOES do is great, it just missed a lot of opportunities as well…..still a great game, thankfully the overused Batmobile DOES feel great to drive and battle with
Generally I find the criticism towards the batmobile a bit overblown. Sure the combat can be a bit tedious, and I hate the Riddler silly races, but it it drives like a dream, adding so much cool factor to Batman, and I absolutely love solving puzzles with it.
Damn. I remember stumbling upon Mayo's channel a while ago, watching something that was ok (Doom related I guess) and subscribing, then watching something else a few months later filled with such horrible takes I immidiately unsubed with a thought "wow, this guy is a *censored*". Had no idea about his AK video and can't say I'm surprised by it even a little bit. I applause your moderation. Tbh the first reaction I have after hearing his nonsense is a bunch of insults. His takes are so dumb I can't even take them seriously. You're a DMC, Bloodborne, Arkham and Doom Eternal enjoyer? Now that's a good taste (because it's very similar to mine).
@mishuggah_33 I tried to approach the video from a level headed perspective, responding with logic and less with insults. Thank you for the compliment And yep, I'm definitely a fan of those.
Under The Mayo had 1 good take, then every single video after just shows how shallow he is. He can’t review a game based on its own merits. When he reviews he game, he EXPECTS a game to play like a DIFFERENT game and if it doesn’t it’s a bad game.
I agree. And this video is an especially bad case, because he is capable of decent critique. but he just throws away any of that in exchange for childish whining and hyperbole
@@MattTGM The worst case of this was his Sekiro video. He didn’t actually review Sekiro, he didn’t even TRY. He just whined for 20 minutes about a DIFFERENT game. I think he only talks about Sekiro for 5 sentences.
I admit while Arkham Knight has its flaws and there have been others who offered different ideas for presenting them like there was someone who said you could keep the Deathstroke Tank fight, in Campaign For Disarmament, by including other Deathstroke fights in Own The Roads and Occupy Gotham, like when all checkpoints are down you could have a combat fight with Slade, then when all the watchtowers are down, another encounter with Slade but this time a stealth segment, maybe similar to the Two-Face and Harley Quinn stealth fights in Arkham City, then you can keep the Tank fight after all bombs are disarmed. Despite the aspects that take away from an experience I still love Arkham Knight and see it as my personal favorite of the game, mostly because the combat and stealth are at the peak of their abilities in my view, and the story made me glued to my seat, granted while Clownpuncher 139 offered a different story of Batman knowing the Arkham Knight is Jason Todd early on with Batman asking why are you doing this instead of who are you, and his idea sounded like a story I'd like to see, but overall I'm still satisfied with this game.
yeah, Deathstroke deserved better. but making combat bosses has always been something Rocksteady struggled with, especially in the Arkham Knight engine
I remember one time I decided to give a game I hated way too many chances. I finished it and spent like a year thinking about it, wondering why people liked it, despite all the flaws. Then I played it again when a DLC came out. And I loved it. That game is called Crosscode, and I don't regret finishing it while mostly hating it the first time. And I wasn't even going to make videos about it! The least he could do is finish it if he's gonna be so assured in his opinions.
That man will pick highly personal takes, and make arguments on that All while of course taking a random game and complaining the game he's reviewing isn't the same as the other one Like seryously, per say gow 2018 had sone flaws of course, his arguments were "kid anoyng, this game isn't how i want it to be"
10:47 this take from mayo is even MORE hypocritical because he says he likes City despite that game having almost the exact same scene and situation to this. The hostages or catwoman need to be saved, but we gotta suit up to do so. Mayo’s worse than the game journalists.
In some part of the video, Under the Mayo said he is not that into the Batman Mythology, which was my position at first too. Knight was my first Arkham game, funnily enough, and me not being into the Batman lore, therefore not knowing about Red Hood, made the Arkham Knight twist work for me. It pains me so much that someone who also could have been surprised by it decided to not even coming close to finding out
I like that someone called attention to this. A few years ago he made a similar review of Resident Evil 8 He made decent enough critiques in pointing out its flaws. But he straight up mentioned things that are just not true. To me when someone traffics in hyperbole and misinformation and thinks nothing of it; It does nothing but damage video game discourse. Check out his RE:Village video which he later also made a “repsonse” to tag along.
I'll be honest, part of the reason Arkham Knight is my favourite Arkham game IS because it's 'Batman porn'. It's the most insane balls to the wall Batman power fantasy simulator we've ever seen in gaming and it's fucking glorious.
For me what was annoying is when he said he didn't finish the game and wasn't a batman fan. Like why are you reviewing it if you didn't finish it or aren't a fan of the series or character? Also most of his complaints were just user error not the game.
@emberfist8347 yeah, that's true. But they don't do it as a first resort in every room. And we accept that, because it'd otherwise be less fun in gameplay
Oh i remember this guy. About a year ago or so i think he had a really shitty take on a stylish shooter called ultrakill. His take was so bad and his gameplay so stupid that the speedrunning community for the game named a meme category after him where they only utilize the starting revolver as mayo decided to make his own gameplay as miserable as possible by not engaging with all the weapons.
As someone who has never played the other two Arkham games and only played Knight, I actually enjoyed the Batmobile. I can understand the sentiment of it being overused and sure it was annoying to use sometimes, but overall I liked it and found the tank combat a good break from simply playing as Batman. Sometimes it’s fun to just blast things. Combined with stealth situations, and other times just jumping into a group of thugs to kick the crap out of them, as well as race tracks, Arkham Knight had a lot of variety, and it all fit together well enough that it wasn’t absurd in a story/gameplay wise. Complaining that the tanks lack situational awareness, while simultaneously complaining about the Batmobile is absurd. Why would want missions with the Batmobile to be HARDER?
@@MattTGMThanks! Honestly, the only thing I’d really complain about is The Riddler. I wouldn’t be surprised if the time it takes to complete his side quest is longer than all other side quests AND the story combined since you have to hunt down Riddler’s men to know where the trophies/challenges even are and then actually do all 243 of them. 😵💫
@@blackhat1018 yeah, its definitely the longest quest of the lot. But I've done it 5+ times so it's not really a bother for me anymore haha. and I maintain its not as hard as many people say
Arkham Knight is a great game - the best in the series? Maybe not. But it's a great experience. I remember preordering this game (back when preordering wasn't so stupid) and have since played and beaten this game multiple times. It's a fun experience and I'm tired of all the hate. I'd even argue that Knight is easily the most accessible in the series for newer players - the fighting mechanics, in my opinion, had been perfected. Love this game, always have. There's not a bad game in the Arkham series (Asylum, City, Origins, and Knight are all masterpieces).
during my 100% arkham knight playthrough, i looked at the batmobile with a groan due to the riddler races, but outside of that I honestly liked how it felt and the usage of it during gameplay
@@MattTGMI mean it's not like I'm struggling and dying all the time, I just want to do the cool stuff I see, which I know is probably people playing a level repeatedly until they know every possible situation, but I want to just do that on the fly lol.
Well, it is his opinion but I agree that he failed to explain his opinion properly. But I can agree on some of the stuff that he said, explaining it my way. For example, I hate using Batmobile in Arkham Knight because.. well, it becomes boring of using it every time and I just want pure action, stealth or hand to hand combat, but instead of that this game reuses Batmobile too much and it makes me want to give myself a break from this game. And the Riddler challenges and collectables. As if we didn't had enough of him in Asylum, City and Origins. It was very annoying, especially those upside down driving sections of the Riddler challenges. On PC they are frustrating because, if you happens to get just a little lag spike, like one frame lag spike, then Batmobile gonna fell down and you gonna lose the challenge. So yeah, I feel like changing Riddler with somebody else would be better. Maybe with Zsaz that they cut out or Prometheus, who was only mentioned in Arkham Asylum but was never in any of the 4 games. And that is my biggest problems with Arkham Knight but other than that, I like the game. Especially the fighting system. It feels so powerful and right that you almost feel yourself as Batman.
@deathcold_longplaysua4846 I think most of us agree the Batmobile was overused. And the PC port of this game was a mess I'd have liked to see Prometheus, but I think including the Riddler was necessary. He's an arkham staple and we finally got a proper boss against him in Knight. Plus, there were far less trophies for him here than in arkham city
@@MattTGM Still, at least for me Riddler was a pain in the a$$ to deal with. And yes, they fixed PC version of the game a bit and it mostly works fine, but you still can experience a little frame drops here and there for no reason. That is mostly why I had a problem with the Riddler and Batmobile races.
I swear Under has to be a rage baiter at this point. Everytime i have heard his name its just been about him not liking a game, except for exclusivly Doom.
Do you plan on doing a video on the Arkham Shadow gameplay trailer? I know you have said stuff about it before but so far the reaction has been really positive. As a longtime Arkham fan and VR fan it could be an amazing entry.
@RedcoatTrooper maybe, but unlikely. Unless its like a short meme video If anything I'm bitter because the game looks and sounds pretty good, I Just can't experience it because I lack the tech haha
@@MattTGM I hear you bro, I personally decided to get a VR headset instead of a current gen console just because it didn't really interest me, as an Arkham fan this is exactly what I wanted to see the series but from a brand new perspective. The rumour is of a cheaper version of the Quest 3 being announced soon though might be worth a look at that.
@RedcoatTrooper fair enough mate. I went the other way, I've not gotten a VR yet, pricey and I wouldn't use it enough. But hey, if Arkham Shadow is really good, it could change.
Man I'm not even the biggest Arkham Knight fan when I first played it, but that Under the Mayo review was so god awful and stupid it actually makes me want to replay the game.
Wait, is he seriously complaining about fanservice in BAK, when he's a fan of Doom Eternal, a game that is basically just 100% fanservice itself, which constantly reminds you of how badass the Slayer is? Jesus he is braindead
Yep. He tried explaining the DOOM Eternal comparison away in his response video, but the point was stupid and weak so i didn't see it as worth responding to here
Ever since UTM started making game reviews I lost interest in his channel. Yes, I can understand not being a FAN of certain games or types of games(Sekiro, DMC, Ultrakill, etc.) but saying they’re “bad” because HE doesn’t like them just discredits how much of a following they have. If Sekiro is just a bad game, then why does the community have DOZENS of mods for just reworking bosses and giving them more attacks/making them MORE difficult? Just watch ONGBAL and you’ll see what I mean
I think Underthemayo is just insecure that he likes looking at batman’s badass suit and doesn’t want to admit it
Bruce has a Great body too 😊
Luckily the Batman suiting up scene in Arkham Knight wasn’t like what happened in Joel Schumacher’s film (Batman & Robin) what with the camera zooming in on his Bat nips & Bat glutes other wise he would of really had a field day😅😂. Also rest in peace Joel Schumacher...
* Batman's batass
Yep. He meatrides the shit out of doom slayer, yet cries about batman
It's also a suit that doesn't highlight Bruce's physique unlike the one from asylum and city
"this is just batman porn" did anyone else just feel there brain shrink
100%
If this dude read new batman comic he is going to have stroke because my god.
@@S-treme OH MY GOD THAT IS SO TRUE LMAO
*Their.* I'm sorry.
@@MattTGM 100% agree, or 100% brain shrinkage?
I was done with Mayo's video as soon as he said he can't get into the world of Arkham knight cause he's not a Batman fan, but right after he says he liked Arkham city because it felt like an authentic Batman world. This man's stupidity is mind boggling!
He strikes me as one of those people that will say whatever they can to try and make a point, even if they have no point to make.
You know, a rambling idiot who thinks they're the most intelligent person in the room.
Nah he’s right Arkham knight batman is an idiot compared to asylum
@@kylemason2836 How and when is he an idiot?
@@matthodgkinson2003 there’s like a million videos on this site going over Arkham knights story and poor characterization, take your pick
@@kylemason2836 I'm asking why do YOU feel that way? I'm not interested in anyone else
Batman porn? Is there something you're not telling us, Mister Mayo? 🤨 Jesus, my brain cells are leaving me. Arkham Knight is my favourite Batman game.
I concur, Arkham Knight is also my favorite Batman game. The whole Batman Experience imo. More dense and challenging than the Insomniac Spider-Man games too, which were obviously made with inspiration from the Arkham games.
@@pakman0049The Spider-Man games were inspired by the previous Spider-Man games, there’s honestly like nothing similar between the combat systems other than square to attack and triangle + circle to perform a finisher, the stealth segments are more of a copy of the Amazing Spider-Man games, as for traversal, all you have to do in Spider-Man is to hit triangle to glide, you can even do barrel rolls with the web wings while in Arkham, all you have to do is just grapnel boost, dive, and glide a lot to get to places, I do think that the Arkham games are more harder though
He must've been modding it, you know how his statement came from
@@jinsungyuu8365 this is a underthemayo level bad take 😂
@@silverbolt6699 How💀
him complaining about batman getting a new suit to help him, literally is what batman does in any movie he calls fox and says he needs a better suit and gets one
I think there's no denying that they choose an awkward moment for that suit-up scene. In the preview, that animation happened in Fox's office in Wayne tower. In the game, they cut and pasted the sequence into a scene that kinda killed the story momentum. Not because Batman didn't need to get new equipment for a new challenge, but because the slow, methodical suit-up that worked gorgeously for the game's first sneak peek didn't work for a moment that required much more urgency. But is a deal-breaker? Hardly. It's a nit-pick.
UnderTheMayo having a bad take is like saying grass is green
@criticalplat1num80 oh yeah. I saw a few other videos of his and I was quite shocked at how bad it can get
Just wait for elden ring, sekiro and ultrakill
And dmc 5, all awful
@@nioh2-ky8fr his take on DMC5 makes me wanna rip my hair out
@@nioh2-ky8frand Deathloop…
My god his Deathloop take…
either mayo is rage batting or his brain completely shut off, complaining about the Suit-up scene and calling it porn make no sense, that is like calling iron man suit-up scenes porn or Doom guy suit-up scenes porn or even Isaac Clarke from dead space suit upgrades to be porn, if he used his brain for half a second he would realize that it is just a suit-up scene to get a good look at the new armor,
wow, it's almost like peapol want to take a brief look at some of the details of a new armor or suit upgrade that is either an improvement or adds new abilities or even if the armor just looks cool, and if he did not like the new suit in Knight you could change skins, imagen calling a suit upgrade porn because you get a suit-up scene that does not even last 20 seconds and you can change your skin if you don't like the new armor, like wtf?
Your typo of “rage baiting” is so fitting I’m not even mad 😂
@@mediamanjamessmith251 Damnn, guess I go to grammar jail now
Under The Mayo got a huge ego ever since his review of DOOM Eternal blew up. He's extremely full of himself and refuses to ever admit he's been wrong before. Just look at his Ultrakill videos or Trepang² videos. His Sifu videos are also incredibly bad and when he's called out for being a hypocrite or just blatantly spreading false info about the games he resorts to acting like a child.
Also his Elden Ring stream just needs to be watched. It's just embarrassing.
that Elden Ring stream was physically painful to witness
Don't forget about his gow takes.
His ultrakill video was literally him crying about how The game isn't exactly like doom eternal
0:16 If you want a quick run down on the guy. He is a massive DOOM Eternal fan BUT he dislikes every other game because they aren't like doom. He made horrible videos abouth other games too such as ultrakill.
@@richardduska1558 yep. Did a bit of research while making the video and I was shocked. Let's not even mention the Elden Ring stream
And, somehow, even his positive reviews are hypocritical, just compare his sifu and sekiro reviews
Most of us in the DOOM community reject him
@@djnotnice108 Ironically he described himself as “the spokesperson of the doom community” like how clueless and arrogant can someone get lol
"Batman porn" is pretty funny though. I honestly like the moments where Batman gets to be a little "badass". Why not? He's cool. Let him be cool.
It’s funny to laugh at because insomniac Spider-Man gets a whole cutscene for just the suit 😂
Ultrakill really set him up on a path to replace synthetic man as the most obnoxious gaming channel on the platform. These 2 can literally complain about anything except the game they are covering and even when they do cover the game, its some of the most out-there surface-level condescending bull**** takes you will ever hear.
I think some youtubers are frankly being too easy on him. F this guy. He's a ragebaiter who spelled knight as "night" in his title so he could generate controversy to get more ad revenue.
Tbh I was like those youtubers, but that review was just a blatant attempt to piss people off. He lost me there. Maybe he realized he can't make good videos after doom eternal, and embraces the rage baiting as a final attempt at making a name for himself.
You forgot about the fact that he stopped playing at the Harley Quinn section and STILL decided to make a review.
People somehow defend him by calling his review a ‘first impression’ which makes no sense
Nah he's rage baiting, why is he complaining so much about the suit up scene???, the Reason the suit up scene exists in Arkham Knight is *LITERALLY* because that's how basic game design works by showing the player the new abilities they have at their disposal and teaching the player how to use them while also its the fact that batman suits up because he's literally about to fight an entire *MILITARY* so obviously he has to upgrade his shit so he can stand a chance against the new and more powerful enemies in the game, that's literally what superheroes do, anyone with intelligence can see that and he's exaggerating it by constantly implying getting "ple@sure" from Batman 😂
@@SpiderSora it's hardly the first outrageous take he's had. But it is one of the stupidest
@@MattTGM I think part of the reason why the batmobile gets a lot of hate for being overused is the side missions like mr freeze, militia bombs, firefly, Deathstroke and riddler for instance which all force you to use the batmobile especially riddler where instead of running my fade like a real man he wants me to run my wheels on his race tracks because he's salty and had catwoman captured for the majority of the game and especially Deathstroke only because everybody played Arkham Origins before Arkham Knight which I completely understand personally
@@SpiderSora absolutely, its the overuse
Militia Bombs are whatever, its just more combat
Firefly, its not bad, just very disappointing when we saw him in Origins as an awesome boss
Mr Freeze, it was one race and one tank battle, the only one in the DLC, so that's not so bad. and contextually, it works perfectly for the sidequest
Deathstrokes Tank was awful. 100% a huge letdown
The Riddler is a personal preference thing. I liked his racetracks and batmobile puzzles, seeing as we'd already done pure Batman Riddler Rooms in City and Origins, but if people were tired of them I could understand it
And he continues it by complaining about the optional tutorials breaking his immersion, because “oh no, why isn’t he saving the hostages instead of doing vr training missions” my fucking God is just a tutorial and it’s optional.
he got to know he was under the closet after playing arkham knight and he is cursing the game for it
15:18 Didn't Knerd mention in his video that his response video started with him vocally mocking the people who criticized his review? It's just really funny he tries to take a moral high ground after that lol
What really keeps me up at night is the things he said after calling it "batman porn." Commenting on how he doesn't actually know anything about batman to begin with but somehow feels Arkham City is more "accurate" to his character. It has to take an insane amount of inflated ego to say "I don't know anything about what I'm looking at but I think this is incorrect". It's almost revolting imo.
Like I genuinely hope this is just his internet grift persona and he doesn't interact with people that way irl it just seems so annoying.
I absolutely agree. I'd have addressed that in the video too, but I didn't want it to be *that* long
"This is just Batman porn" You could literally say the same thing with classic God of War and Doom 2016-Eternal
Hell even new GOW. Have you seen the blades of chaos seen in 2018 and the Thor boss in Ragnarok?
"there's too much on the screen" Mate we just had suicide squad game this year, this man does not know what too much on the screen looks like
He’s played DOOM, he shouldn’t be talking 😂
"Too much on screen", he says in the game where the most HUD you're going to see in regular gameplay is the health bar, the combo counter, and the compass, all of which are neatly condensed and barely take up any screen space.
You have to admire UnderTheMayo’s ability to make me like Arkham Knight even more
The sad thing is that Mayo used to be the goat for this stuff back then
When he wasn’t saying his garbage opinions on games like Ultrakill he would be slam dunking it on Doom Eternal, and was one of the few people back then that understood the purpose of the Marauder
He actually is very impactful to the DE scene with his incredibly helpful guides for unused weapon mods
And then his reviews on other games showed and man i was so disappointed
@@Splashzone263 exactly. His DOOM Eternal content is fully good and legit from what I've heard. But it seems that he hates everything else he plays, in part because it's not DOOM Eternal
Thank you for bringing up that the Batmobile was never useable in the previous games, since after playing Asylum and City (now Origins) I couldn’t wait to use that darn thing in Knight
I also did a lot of roaming and Riddler stuff as Batman with all the Mark 2/3/4 grapple boost stuff being introduced, so I never had a complaint about “too much batmobile”
Me personally I feel like the only real valid “Batmobile used too much” is that we didn’t get true boss fights for deathstroke and that first Arkham knight encounter. And no final fight for firefly. Outside that, I personally don’t think it was overused. DLC included I think the like 16 percent is a very reasonable amount of usage for such an integral thing. Just wish we had gotten those boss fights though
@@GBelmont87the boss fights can be summed up to origins since people would complain that they are copy pasted.
Not to mention the fact that since it’s the first use of the Batmobile in gaming, it’s not gonna be perfect. People forget that asylum’s combat and stealth is pure ass compared to city and especially knight. They could’ve easily started with city’s gameplay so why do they give asylum a pass
@@Yourfat247 oh no I definitely agree. My ONLY complaint is those boss fights, I would have gladly taken a spruced up reuse of those fights in knight over the tank battles. But the Batmobile and BM combat by far (imo) is very well done and I have no issues with it. I love how it handles while driving and how it plays as a tank. I think it’s awesome
I think it's fair to say the Batmobile was overused. Unlike the stealth and brawl combat mechanics, tank combat doesn''t have nearly enough depth to warrant that much repeated use. And I found it very hard to learn the racing controls, but that may be because I was playing on PC, which wasn't the right way to go. I could never quite master drifting, as the hand-break is the left-shift, which you have to hold with your pinky. Regardless, using the Batmobile on my first playthrough was pure frustration. So I understand why someone might rage-quit. The game has a much steeper learning curve than the first two entries.
Mayo is to Arkham Knight what Upper Echelon Gaming is to Doom Eternal.
"When you cant find anything to get mad about, just make shit up"- Underthemayo
I am personally convinced that Under the Mayo has a super power that wraps reality around him whenever he plays a game that isn't Doom Eternal, and makes him see anything, that isn't this game, shit.
Why do people hate the Batmobile, it’s COOL AS FUCK!?
I wished I could use it MORE
It's not perfect but when you sit back and think about it, it's a wonderful addition. I just wasn't a fan of the tank battles to be honest.
What @chumcalmdown said is true
Basically you can tell that rocksteady is proud with how they use the batmobile and deservingly so but for a lot of people they might be a tad too proud as it was used on times that ya might not need (good chuck of riddler throphies are just cars) and the biggest hit in gut was too many tank battle in place it doesnt make sense (deathstroke boss battle comes to mind) i think if tank battle was reduce by a quarter people would've hate it less cause bat mobile is a great addition
@@raden1287it’s not even a quarter of the game and people loathe it. Asylum’s boss fights are far worse (like joker) and guess what? It was the FIRST. The tank fights are needed and are the only vehicles that can fight the Batmobile. Most riddler trophies are on foot and a good chunk of challenges are in the orphanage.
I believe that if people weren’t so biased and actually gave it a chance then they wouldn’t be so harsh since they praise asylum for the same reasons
Hate bias or it’s trendy to hate the Batmobile. It’s a really good implementation for the first game.
As for someone who grew up playing every Arkham Batman game including Origins that had 100% every riddler challenges in all Batman game.
When he said “Batman porn” gave me a massive headache and less Brain cells, but with all honesty I still enjoy Arkham Knight to this day i don’t know where he was talking about.
Batman porn is exactly what I signed up for. And this game definitely delivered. Those lascivious closeups of the Batmobie's tires really rev my engine.
I love how everyone is dunking on this guy’s bad review.
@@emberfist8347 he has it coming
He probably doesn't even know we can get both the REC gun and Freeze blast in Arkham Knight🤣
Arkham Knight is actually my favourite game out of the 'main three' (sorry, Origins!), for multiple reasons.
The biggest one of which is the introduction of the Grapple Launcher Boost, and the Batmobile and its ejector seat, all three of which massively speed up traversal across this large map. One thing I tend to hate about open-world games is travelling across such large maps, and in a series where skip travelling/teleporting/fast travelling isn't available, being able to soar rapidly across the map is VITAL - and Arkham City absolutely lacked this. Travelling across City felt so slow, tedious, and cumbersome without the Grapple Launcher Boost or the Batmobile, which alone makes me disinclined to replay it; meanwhile, it takes mere minutes to go across all three of Knight's islands, which is *much* better.
Secondly, there's so many goon variants in Knight - shock sticks, guys with shields, Detective Mode jammers and trackers, guys with suits that make them essentially invisible to Detective Mode, the large thugs that need to be stunned and beaten down, medics that can revive a couple goons and coat others with electricity (so if you punch them, you get shocked), and more.
This makes both combat and stealth takedowns much more interesting, compared to City.
Thirdly, fewer Riddle trophies and stuff. Enough said about this.
Fourthly, I don't like Catwoman, so I hated how I was forced to periodically play as her in City; here in Knight, she's relegated solely to Ridder's sidequest, and is a nonentity otherwise. Ideally she wouldn't have returned whatsoever, but this is good enough. Similarly, Barbara is using her Oracle role, so she stays out of combat and provides support neither Robin nor Nightwing could provide - a fantastic use of her character; Batgirl is only usable in a DLC thing, which...why?...but otherwise not in the main game, thankfully.
Fifthly, I don't actually mind the Batmobile gameplay; in my opinion, it's definitely not overused at all, having just the right amount of presence to provide a nice gameplay switch from Batman himself every now and then. Sure, the Cloudburst (and Deathstroke) fights are tedious as hell, but against regular drones and even the standard larger tanks? It's perfectly fine, at least for me.
Main 4* don’t apologise to one of the main games
Fun fact about Mayo. His Ultrakill video was so universally clowned upon thaf it actually birthed a new Speedrunning category for the game.
"Mayo%", where you beat the game as fast as possible using only rhe basic pistol.
haha yeah, I saw comments about that. His Ultrakill Review is... certainly one of the reviews of all time, but hey, at least it'll live on forever in infamy!
If there is one thing I learned about Mayo is that he likes being a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian. All of it is just for clout. Shitty contrarian takes is the most effecient way to get clout.
"The Mona Lisa of video games" is the most apt description for this game
I agree, Arkham Knight is fantastic
but I was mainly using it as a general metaphor haha
After this man's pathetic review of ultrakill, i find it quite unbelievable anyone takes what this guy says seriously. He is completely incompetent at reviewing games
The Batman suit up scene is not meant to be sexual in any way, but if he wants to go down that road, I would argue it’s actually less sexual than the other games. Arkham knight’s Batsuit is much more armored than the other games so you can’t see Batman’s giant muscles through the suit like you can in the other games. He’s literally putting on thicker clothing than the last game that now hides more of his physique, that’s like the complete opposite of sexual.
"YOU EXPIRED CONDIMENT" launched me out of my batmobile seat🤣
@@Haidar_AS thank you, I figured that was an acceptable joke haha
Mayo talking about how much he hates "Batmans stupid hot body" (not a direct quote) is a huge "tell on yourself" because the only thing i thought were and probably intended purpose of this animation "Yooo sick ass armor!"
The Batmobile is also a big part of the game because..YOUR IN A CITY.
Not really since you have the improved suit which upgrades the grapple and batman can go as fast as the Batmobile.
It’s that there’s an army and on foot vs tanks ≠ fun
Imagine hating completely optional tutorials because "muh immersion"
sorry new players who need to learn to play the game. someones immersion has been 'challenged'
Maybe in the next game they should give Batman a chainsaw that refills his batarangs? Then Mayo’ll like it!
Him saying that Batman Arkham Knight is like Arkham porn or bat porn or whatever that’s literally like saying I don’t like this Batman game because it’s too much of Batman you get what you paid for buddy I don’t know what to tell you, Mr. Mayo
@@kerchydaproductions6384 my thoughts exactly. It's such a dumb critique
He had the worst God of War take, now he's back with the worst Arkham take. Where will this journey take us next?
He's also planning on adding it to his top 10 worst games hes played for a video. Wtf.
he's just asking for critique at this point. but hey, it gets him views
@@MattTGM bait used to be believable,what can i say.
Im in the minority but I always enjoyed using the batmobile
honestly, i love it. the dodge stuff and proper energy management... its really fun. Makes me feel like 2016 batmobile. sometimes i even get a bit of keaton mobile. i never bought armor however until i beat new game plus for the challenge though
Arkham Knight is a fantastic game, and my favourite Arkham game (though all four Arkham games have things that they do better than the other Arkham games). Yes, it has too many tank battles, not enough boss battles, both the Hush and the Asrael storylines go nowhere, and I *hate* the game's story's end, but the game does so much and so much of what it does it does extremely well, and overall I believe it's the most playable of all the Arkham games.
a very fair evaluation.
I like to think that there are two kinds of criticism. 1) this could be better than it is, and 2) this should be different. The first respects what the work appears to be trying to accomplish, and how it fails to achieve its goals. The second is more subjective, deciding what the work should be doing instead of what it did. "The Dark Knight Rises didn't quite get its thematic points across," vs "The Dark Knight Rises should have made different points." But I think there's actually a third kind, which comes down to, "Me me me!" "The Dark Knight Rises should have been about the Riddler, because I love the Riddler."
Underthemayo's criticism seems to fall into theis third category. Criticism isn't exactly an art, but it explores our relationship with it, and so it requires a certain amount of self-reflection. When there's zero self-reflection, only the knee-jerk reaction, that "hot-take" is inevitably treated as an objective observation. Some of Underthemayo's reactions weren't without cause. But legitimate or not, his total disinterest in exploring why he had these reactions led to a comically self-indulgent rant, dismissing the entire game. It's like dismissing the whole of The Dark Knight, every plot point, performance, costume, and effect because you didn't like Christian Bale's voice.
To be completely candid, I had a lot of the same reactions to Arkham Knight that Underthemayo did, at least on first playthrough. The suiting up scene is undoubtedly placed in an awkward moment, which kills the pacing of the game's first chapter. Compare the new suit's introduction to the dramatic introduction of the Batmobile, which utilizes its "Batman porn" moment to magnificent effect. I think the game made a couple of decisions like this. It presents an insurmountable barrier to an urgent problem, stopping progress. It then introduces a new game function as the challenge's solution. But wait, before you overcome this urgent problem, take 20 minutes to run a tutorial. Learning about the Batmobile's tank function did this, leaving Batman and Ivy pinned behind a door with tanks pointed out them while you learn the basics of tank combat via stimulation. It's not a huge issue, but it somewhat breaks the sense of urgency. The story is sacrificed in service of the game's game-ness. When a little reshuffling of events would have avoided that conflict.
In the same way, the leisurely suit-up completely contradicts the urgency of having to rescue hostages. Had it taken place in Wayne Tower, as it did when the cut-scene was presented in the original trailer for the game, it would have been perfect. But as a long, distracting pause while hostages stand inches from death, it undeniably creates a conflict of emotion for the player. It seems obvious that the suit-up was cut and pasted. Its mood didn't quite fit the moment.
Arkham knight is full of issues like this. The Batmobile's tank battles feel like an undercooked system that's overused, but that's not a deal-breaker. The Jason plotline was half-baked and sloppy, but again, not a deal-breaker. The Harley sequence broke the pacing of the game as well, feeling like a annoying digression as the story was picking up momentum. It should have come up earlier in the game. Deal breaker? Not even close. It was still a great sequence. As you say, Underthemayo's reaction is comically inappropriate to the problem. Do these foibles detract from the game experience? Yeah, of course they do. But do they ruin the game? Only if you ignore everything that's good about it. And there's just so much. I don't know about this dude, but I signed up to Arkham Knight for 50 hours of Batman porn. I didn't get that, of course. I got 500 hours. And I loved... most of it. Because I didn't let the parts that annoyed me spoil the parts that's frankly magnificent.
To me, Underthemayo's rant just feels like an immature demand for attention, like a small child watching adults doing something truly impressive, and innocently going through the motions, hoping for the same applause. RUclips is full of young people watching excellent, thoughtful review videos, and thinking, "I can do that. I have opinions too!" They have no idea what it means to analyze things critically, anymore than they know how to make a movie by watching one. But that's the nature of youth. Hopefully, they'll go to college, or just learn the art of self-reflection, and eventually learn that their knee-jerk reactions aren't actual, valuable commentary, but just the raw material on which to build real thoughts. That's my hope for Underthemayo.
Or else he'll get angry that "nobody gets me" and eventually stop wasting everyone's time. Either way is fine.
You know, i wonder how hed react to me calling Doom Eternal "Doom Slayer P". After all, how many times is he shown in a badass or exaggerated way?
Oh look at him staring down the king in the second level. Oh look how he brutalizes his enemies in Glory Kills.
Yeah, sounds disingenuous.
He says "oh the tone is different"
Which is still a dumb comparison he makes. Badass characters are allowed to be badass
i like how people go "why dont the tanks have better vision, why dont the thugs look up" bro why doesnt batman just call flash. make it a flash game. even within the "lore" which wasnt confirmed back then "hey i hacked into all cell phones and scarecrows comms, i know exactly where scarecrow is, get him" or better yet superman. or maybe give bat invisibility. If you really want to nitpick why doesnt GL fix it he can show up near invisible, scan from the atmosphere for the cloudburst, destroy it, capture knight and scarecrow. boom day over the point is you can go both ways but the matter of fact is, the game works best that way and youll simply have to accept at some point that its fiction and you can imagine whatevwr you want, but eventually you need to decide whats needed for the sake of the product or the product will fail
Correct me if i’m wrong but isn’t mayo the guy that calls everything woke
Under the Mayo just likes looking at Batman let's be real here. I mean Batman is a good looking guy. But I would rather look at Catwoman. We all have different tastes. I'm not gonna judge.
"Why are there more colored indicators?" Oh idk, maybe because it's a SEQUEL, so naturally it's gonna have more stuff than the previous installment. Seriously, what a dumb question.
@@CityofButterfly and it's not even got that many new things. There's blue items and occasional blue glowing people, that's it.
People have been saying he was faking being bad in city
If that's true, I don't know why he'd do that
I think he half-asses his gameplay to make games look bad on purpose. Like playing games that give you multiple ways to engage in combat, but always choose the most boring way to make it look like a game issue.
@@jontaehall2740 yeah, I've noticed that. if it really is deliberate, its disingenuous and he should feel bad
The only "Batman porn" is maintaining a triple digit combo
@@Warpded too true
To be honest, the batmobile handles like absolute dogwater, but I couldn’t care less because I finally got to drive the fucking batmobile.
Personally I don’t have much problem with what the game does, it’s what it doesn’t do that always bugged me, no good bosses like Poison Ivy from Asylum, like Freeze fron City or Deathstroke from Origins, hell even Blackgate has a couple boss highlights such as Deadshot and Catwoman, I realize Arkham Knight has a few boss “scenarios” as I’ll call them, but none ever truly felt like a boss battle I guess….i would’ve liked a couple good one-on-one duels with Jason Todd, Azrael, and someone who could’ve gave a nice 1-1 predator battle similar to Mr. Freeze…..there’s no Batcave, no other playable characters besides Batman have more than a few minutes of playtime in the main story, no martial artist enemy types from Origins (I for one miss those lol)…..I can go on, but ultimately what the game DOES do is great, it just missed a lot of opportunities as well…..still a great game, thankfully the overused Batmobile DOES feel great to drive and battle with
@@EarselBill-bi4xr all that is totally valid. Knight lacks proper boss fights
Generally I find the criticism towards the batmobile a bit overblown. Sure the combat can be a bit tedious, and I hate the Riddler silly races, but it it drives like a dream, adding so much cool factor to Batman, and I absolutely love solving puzzles with it.
Damn. I remember stumbling upon Mayo's channel a while ago, watching something that was ok (Doom related I guess) and subscribing, then watching something else a few months later filled with such horrible takes I immidiately unsubed with a thought "wow, this guy is a *censored*".
Had no idea about his AK video and can't say I'm surprised by it even a little bit.
I applause your moderation. Tbh the first reaction I have after hearing his nonsense is a bunch of insults. His takes are so dumb I can't even take them seriously.
You're a DMC, Bloodborne, Arkham and Doom Eternal enjoyer? Now that's a good taste (because it's very similar to mine).
@mishuggah_33 I tried to approach the video from a level headed perspective, responding with logic and less with insults. Thank you for the compliment
And yep, I'm definitely a fan of those.
Under The Mayo had 1 good take, then every single video after just shows how shallow he is. He can’t review a game based on its own merits. When he reviews he game, he EXPECTS a game to play like a DIFFERENT game and if it doesn’t it’s a bad game.
I agree. And this video is an especially bad case, because he is capable of decent critique. but he just throws away any of that in exchange for childish whining and hyperbole
@@MattTGM
The worst case of this was his Sekiro video. He didn’t actually review Sekiro, he didn’t even TRY. He just whined for 20 minutes about a DIFFERENT game. I think he only talks about Sekiro for 5 sentences.
@@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 really? wow. that's gotta be one of his worst videos, alongside Arkham Knight, Ultrakill and Elden Ring stream
i kind of wish the other batmobiles had their own battle modes, i like the 1989 and the original arkham mobile style
I admit while Arkham Knight has its flaws and there have been others who offered different ideas for presenting them like there was someone who said you could keep the Deathstroke Tank fight, in Campaign For Disarmament, by including other Deathstroke fights in Own The Roads and Occupy Gotham, like when all checkpoints are down you could have a combat fight with Slade, then when all the watchtowers are down, another encounter with Slade but this time a stealth segment, maybe similar to the Two-Face and Harley Quinn stealth fights in Arkham City, then you can keep the Tank fight after all bombs are disarmed. Despite the aspects that take away from an experience I still love Arkham Knight and see it as my personal favorite of the game, mostly because the combat and stealth are at the peak of their abilities in my view, and the story made me glued to my seat, granted while Clownpuncher 139 offered a different story of Batman knowing the Arkham Knight is Jason Todd early on with Batman asking why are you doing this instead of who are you, and his idea sounded like a story I'd like to see, but overall I'm still satisfied with this game.
yeah, Deathstroke deserved better. but making combat bosses has always been something Rocksteady struggled with, especially in the Arkham Knight engine
poor under the mayo hes still being eaten alive by arkham fans
I remember one time I decided to give a game I hated way too many chances. I finished it and spent like a year thinking about it, wondering why people liked it, despite all the flaws. Then I played it again when a DLC came out. And I loved it. That game is called Crosscode, and I don't regret finishing it while mostly hating it the first time. And I wasn't even going to make videos about it! The least he could do is finish it if he's gonna be so assured in his opinions.
You know what else is a bad gane according to this doofas? Elden Ring, wich he played for charity, instead of giving the money he bought a ps5
yeah that guy is 100% trolling/ragebaiting, for content, none of his words are sincere.
11:30 yea, god forbid I wanna feel badass and cool while playing as fucking BATMAN
You probably won't like his video about devil May cry 5 or the devil May cry series
That man will pick highly personal takes, and make arguments on that
All while of course taking a random game and complaining the game he's reviewing isn't the same as the other one
Like seryously, per say gow 2018 had sone flaws of course, his arguments were "kid anoyng, this game isn't how i want it to be"
The good bits of AK are the best of the entire series. The worst bits make the game an unplayable chore.
@@raminybhatti5740 I agree with the first bit, I disagree with the second bit. But to each their own mate
I actually didn’t mind the Batmobile at all except for one instance, the deathstroke boss should’ve never been a tank battle
@@Sidney2219 100% agree
10:47 this take from mayo is even MORE hypocritical because he says he likes City despite that game having almost the exact same scene and situation to this. The hostages or catwoman need to be saved, but we gotta suit up to do so. Mayo’s worse than the game journalists.
Bro is never right😂 like he just hates anything that isn't doom
Common under the mayo L
In some part of the video, Under the Mayo said he is not that into the Batman Mythology, which was my position at first too. Knight was my first Arkham game, funnily enough, and me not being into the Batman lore, therefore not knowing about Red Hood, made the Arkham Knight twist work for me. It pains me so much that someone who also could have been surprised by it decided to not even coming close to finding out
I like that someone called attention to this. A few years ago he made a similar review of Resident Evil 8
He made decent enough critiques in pointing out its flaws. But he straight up mentioned things that are just not true. To me when someone traffics in hyperbole and misinformation and thinks nothing of it; It does nothing but damage video game discourse.
Check out his RE:Village video which he later also made a “repsonse” to tag along.
@@93juantheone I'll add it to my watch list. Cheers mate
Arkham Knight was badass and has maybe 2 pain in the ass parts.. all things considered I would take more batmobile over any suicide squad.
UnderTheMayo should not be even allowed to live under the mayo nor stay in the mayo, he himself is the expiry date.
I'll be honest, part of the reason Arkham Knight is my favourite Arkham game IS because it's 'Batman porn'. It's the most insane balls to the wall Batman power fantasy simulator we've ever seen in gaming and it's fucking glorious.
@tritonk1759 I agree. It's batmans last night, let him be as awesome as possible
Keep in mind this reviewer, who ADORES Doom, whined about Ultrakill as he played using only a fucking pistol…
His review on Ultrakill was so bad that the DEV HIMSELF made a challenge called “Mayo%” where you only use the starter pistol
@@amanofmanynames9027lmao that’s funny
For me what was annoying is when he said he didn't finish the game and wasn't a batman fan. Like why are you reviewing it if you didn't finish it or aren't a fan of the series or character? Also most of his complaints were just user error not the game.
The thugs do look up but only if you get spotted first or spam inverted takedowns.
@emberfist8347 yeah, that's true. But they don't do it as a first resort in every room. And we accept that, because it'd otherwise be less fun in gameplay
WHY DID HE CALL THIS GAME A BATMAN PR0N??????? this guy is just one big bruh moment
@@ponczos_2293 I don't get how he had such an adverse reaction to it
@@MattTGM especially considering that there was a suit up scene in Arkham city at the beginning of the game. I guess it was longer?
@ponczos_2293 the actual suit up scene in city is like 12 seconds shorter. So apparently that's the difference between cool and Pr0n
@@MattTGM I'm surprised he didn't make any jonkler or r/Arkham jokes in the video... instead of this lol.
Okay why are there so many videos about this guy review, I’ve seen like 3 channels complain about his video is it seriously that bad?
If there's 3 channels, then absolutely
It's pretty bad
Oh i remember this guy. About a year ago or so i think he had a really shitty take on a stylish shooter called ultrakill. His take was so bad and his gameplay so stupid that the speedrunning community for the game named a meme category after him where they only utilize the starting revolver as mayo decided to make his own gameplay as miserable as possible by not engaging with all the weapons.
As someone who has never played the other two Arkham games and only played Knight, I actually enjoyed the Batmobile.
I can understand the sentiment of it being overused and sure it was annoying to use sometimes, but overall I liked it and found the tank combat a good break from simply playing as Batman. Sometimes it’s fun to just blast things.
Combined with stealth situations, and other times just jumping into a group of thugs to kick the crap out of them, as well as race tracks, Arkham Knight had a lot of variety, and it all fit together well enough that it wasn’t absurd in a story/gameplay wise.
Complaining that the tanks lack situational awareness, while simultaneously complaining about the Batmobile is absurd. Why would want missions with the Batmobile to be HARDER?
I 100% agree. I'm glad you liked it
@@MattTGMThanks!
Honestly, the only thing I’d really complain about is The Riddler. I wouldn’t be surprised if the time it takes to complete his side quest is longer than all other side quests AND the story combined since you have to hunt down Riddler’s men to know where the trophies/challenges even are and then actually do all 243 of them. 😵💫
@@blackhat1018 yeah, its definitely the longest quest of the lot. But I've done it 5+ times so it's not really a bother for me anymore haha. and I maintain its not as hard as many people say
Arkham Knight is a great game - the best in the series? Maybe not. But it's a great experience. I remember preordering this game (back when preordering wasn't so stupid) and have since played and beaten this game multiple times. It's a fun experience and I'm tired of all the hate. I'd even argue that Knight is easily the most accessible in the series for newer players - the fighting mechanics, in my opinion, had been perfected. Love this game, always have. There's not a bad game in the Arkham series (Asylum, City, Origins, and Knight are all masterpieces).
I wholly agree
during my 100% arkham knight playthrough, i looked at the batmobile with a groan due to the riddler races, but outside of that I honestly liked how it felt and the usage of it during gameplay
@@BatmanReal I was the opposite. I loved the Riddler races and was a bit irked by some of the puzzles. I do enjoy the combat as well tbh
A Batman and a Doom Eternal fan?
You just earned a sub.
@@Blaze72sH thank you very much. I appreciate it
He sound like he has more spite for Arkham Knight than the game we shall not name
Under The Mayo’s voice is so annoying lol
The only gripe with the arkham games i have is that i wish i was as good as the videos that youtube keeps recommending me
@@xxarcangelxx143 it's just practice and practice. You got this
@@MattTGMI mean it's not like I'm struggling and dying all the time, I just want to do the cool stuff I see, which I know is probably people playing a level repeatedly until they know every possible situation, but I want to just do that on the fly lol.
Well, it is his opinion but I agree that he failed to explain his opinion properly. But I can agree on some of the stuff that he said, explaining it my way. For example, I hate using Batmobile in Arkham Knight because.. well, it becomes boring of using it every time and I just want pure action, stealth or hand to hand combat, but instead of that this game reuses Batmobile too much and it makes me want to give myself a break from this game. And the Riddler challenges and collectables. As if we didn't had enough of him in Asylum, City and Origins. It was very annoying, especially those upside down driving sections of the Riddler challenges. On PC they are frustrating because, if you happens to get just a little lag spike, like one frame lag spike, then Batmobile gonna fell down and you gonna lose the challenge. So yeah, I feel like changing Riddler with somebody else would be better. Maybe with Zsaz that they cut out or Prometheus, who was only mentioned in Arkham Asylum but was never in any of the 4 games. And that is my biggest problems with Arkham Knight but other than that, I like the game. Especially the fighting system. It feels so powerful and right that you almost feel yourself as Batman.
@deathcold_longplaysua4846 I think most of us agree the Batmobile was overused. And the PC port of this game was a mess
I'd have liked to see Prometheus, but I think including the Riddler was necessary. He's an arkham staple and we finally got a proper boss against him in Knight. Plus, there were far less trophies for him here than in arkham city
@@MattTGM Still, at least for me Riddler was a pain in the a$$ to deal with. And yes, they fixed PC version of the game a bit and it mostly works fine, but you still can experience a little frame drops here and there for no reason. That is mostly why I had a problem with the Riddler and Batmobile races.
I swear Under has to be a rage baiter at this point.
Everytime i have heard his name its just been about him not liking a game, except for exclusivly Doom.
I feel like people should really understand the difference between a "review" and somebody expressing their opinion.
All reviews are opinions.
It’s the same thing bro
@@DrEcho But not all opinions are reviews :)
@@Bugplanet8840 Actually... No it's not the same.
@@ttaylor7604 it is we just proved you wrong
Do you plan on doing a video on the Arkham Shadow gameplay trailer? I know you have said stuff about it before but so far the reaction has been really positive.
As a longtime Arkham fan and VR fan it could be an amazing entry.
@RedcoatTrooper maybe, but unlikely. Unless its like a short meme video
If anything I'm bitter because the game looks and sounds pretty good, I Just can't experience it because I lack the tech haha
@@MattTGM I hear you bro, I personally decided to get a VR headset instead of a current gen console just because it didn't really interest me, as an Arkham fan this is exactly what I wanted to see the series but from a brand new perspective.
The rumour is of a cheaper version of the Quest 3 being announced soon though might be worth a look at that.
@RedcoatTrooper fair enough mate. I went the other way, I've not gotten a VR yet, pricey and I wouldn't use it enough. But hey, if Arkham Shadow is really good, it could change.
I genuinely like using the Batmobile
Man I'm not even the biggest Arkham Knight fan when I first played it, but that Under the Mayo review was so god awful and stupid it actually makes me want to replay the game.
why am i not surprised to see that it’s underthemayo
Personally as a need for speed and batman fan I fucking love the batmobile
Wait, is he seriously complaining about fanservice in BAK, when he's a fan of Doom Eternal, a game that is basically just 100% fanservice itself, which constantly reminds you of how badass the Slayer is? Jesus he is braindead
Yep. He tried explaining the DOOM Eternal comparison away in his response video, but the point was stupid and weak so i didn't see it as worth responding to here
To be honest, I don't care if the batank is over used. I mean, you can't use it in previous games, so I really enjoy it.
I guess it's just not doom-ethernal-like enough ://
Ever since UTM started making game reviews I lost interest in his channel. Yes, I can understand not being a FAN of certain games or types of games(Sekiro, DMC, Ultrakill, etc.) but saying they’re “bad” because HE doesn’t like them just discredits how much of a following they have. If Sekiro is just a bad game, then why does the community have DOZENS of mods for just reworking bosses and giving them more attacks/making them MORE difficult? Just watch ONGBAL and you’ll see what I mean