All About Egypt's Maadi MISR & ARM AK47 Rifles
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- Опубликовано: 10 май 2018
- Today we talk about the history of Egypt's domestically manufactured AKM. This rifle has gone by several names over the years, including MISR, ARM, or just 'Maadi.'
Here we talk about how Soviet-Russia established Factory #54 outside of Cairo, get into why Anwar Sadat broke tighs with the Comblock, and end with Egypt's decision to ally itself with America and the West.
Then we discuss the various semi-auto Maadis that have been imported into the USA; such as those from Steyr, Intrac, PARS, and Century Arms International. Names for these civilian versions include: ARM, RML, RPM, MISR, MISR10, MISR-SA, and the dreaded MISR90.
Featured in this video is my own Intrac ARM rifle, with original Egyptian paratrooper side folding wire stock. Also my Russian AKM, assembled by Legion-USA from a 1973 Izhevsk parts kit (sorry for the mis-speak in the video), on a Childers receiver.
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Greating from Egypt
I lived more than 20 years in Maadi district and I am amazed by the amount of real information including the historical data as it is pretty accurate.
I happened to have came across a 1974 date full auto Egyptian AKMS and the finish show the age but was in a very good conditions internally and in perfect working order just to mintion that at least till mid 70 We did not had the side folders
thank you for the info, friend!
Please send more parts kits, I got to build an AK and I've been on a mid east kick with guns lately.
@BRAK54 of course they still . It's the main armament for the Egyptian army
you prolly dont give a shit but if you are bored like me during the covid times then you can watch pretty much all the new series on InstaFlixxer. I've been binge watching with my gf for the last couple of months xD
@Khalid Trevor yup, I've been using instaflixxer for months myself =)
My first parts kit I built was an Egyptian Maadi, so they will always have a special place in my heart.
Neat & thanks for watching
WOW, an actual Egyptian "Crutch" side-folder stock with an actual shiny black Egyptian pistol grip too!
Just found you channel because i was looking for information on an Egyptian Maadi RPM AKM, i just purchased. My first AK platform. Great channel. Thank you. Liked and subscribed.
I recently inherited a Maadi ARM imported by Intrac. It has been hard to find information about it. This video was very helpful, thanks!
Great video and history lesson. Thanks for sharing!
I just bought an 1993 marked ACC/Intrac Maadi ARM, and I'm here to learn the history behind it. This channel never cease to amaze me
Same. My papa owned it since it came to the states and he passed so I bought it
Love the history as much as the firearms. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Thank you for watching
That Black Pistol Grip really completes that look.
Looks great.
Thanks
Is it legal in Cali?
Xbox Psycho
If the Stock is welding "open" then yes.
In terms of featureless I think you would need to get that pistol grip that California wants you to use
Misha you know how to make my day!!! Thanks for posting this.
Very glad to hear, cheers.
Absolutely fantastic information everytime. Thank you so much for your channel and knowledge
Thank you very much
Love the info,and the guns. Great video, thanks.
thank you
Keep up the videos! Love your presentation style, very informative.
Thank you
I just picked up an INTRAC import Maadi ARM today for 475. I was kinda back and forth until I saw your video. Thanks for the great info
thats a HELLUVA good price
Great price. I paid $750.00 for one yesterday.
My MISR S/A actually had a welded muzzle nut and threads underneath. It came out of the factory in November of ‘97. Very happy with it so far, the De-Ban was easy and the parts were accessible.
As always solid info and great music! I didn’t know a song could match a rifle lol. 👍
One reason the Steyr imports are so expensive was their use in Red Dawn and the lower import numbers. I personally have a MISR S/A, I absolutely love it. I bought it from the original purchaser. I definitely will be getting a PARS or Intrac in the future.
Your awesome and I also appreciate no ads like for real
Thanks. We made the decision very early on not to let RUclips have monetary input, and while it slowed the growth of the channel, with everything that's come up over the last few years, we're glad we didn't. - Jay
Love your channel appreciate all the history info especially the hungarian videos, this is my favorite channel
Thanks very much, cheers.
Wow.....you're a history book for aks. Thanks!
I’ve got one. It’s an Intrac. I put a bone steel folder on it. I love the pharaoh’s hat engraving on it. Looks cool. Best AK I’ve owned.
Who needs to be able to read with people like this around. Great video dude!!
I think one of the factors that make the Steyr's more valuable is that they were used in many movies during the 80's like Red Dawn, Commando, and Rambo 2 just to name a few.
Scott7891 I actually read an article that they used Maadis in Red Dawn. In the Magazine AK-47 + Soviet Weapons.
My 2002 Maadi misr-10 was converted from single to double stack pretty easily because it still had a double stack bolt etc. However the trunion required no modification.
You mentioned that modification was required.
Mine is all Maadi parts. Only the single stack mag well opening was different
Thanks for the info! We have talked before about Imports and I mentioned that I also have a very nice Wasr KR and I now have just picked up a Intrac Maadi in excellent condition! I'm seeing the prices skyrocket and wondering as of today what area price range is on the Intrac Maadi Mishka? Thanks man I appreciate your channel!
Very informative video! What book would you recommend for info If I wanted to buy a Maadi? Love your videos! Keep up the great work on videos!
The wooden furniture, although completely aesthetic, is very pretty, especially the coloration of the upper hand guard and how it harmonizes with the lower hand guard. What treatments and storage conditions do you use on all of your wooden furniture to keep them all so pristine? Thanks for another very informative video Misha.
Honestly? low but not 'no' humidity. I keep my room at about 55 percent. Not enough moisture to allow for rust, but enough to keep wood and leather from drying out and going lifeless.
Very nice broski...
thank you
Amazing knowledge 👌👌👌
This is amazing
Great vid bro. Love me some Maadis!
Really? I could never tell hehe
Haha!
Egypt now built another firearm factory and it will produce another rifle. I think it will be CZ-807 as the company mentioned tgat Egypt needs 450K to replace Maadi. They ordered some CZ to test in the ongoing operations in Sinai against ISIS. The rifle is now used by the Egyptian paratroopers. The Maadi factory will still working as the police still uses the AKM but they started to replace it by AK-103 for the SWAT team.
Interesting info. Thanks for sharing! - Jay
Thank you much
You welcome bro.
ازاى عرفت المعلومه دى how did you know that
isis is in sinai? funny they keep seeping out of israel lol. They got their ass kicked out of syria, people say they'll try to take parts of africa, but if they think they can fuck with egypt they're gonna have a hard time lol
thanks for the awesome video. I finally got me a job and hopefully 2 months I can buy ak and other guns soon.
Congrats! You'll have to let us know what your first buy ends up being. - Jay
Very interesting video. I own an Egyptian MISR S/A but I don't know much about it (I'm 45 and shot guns my entire life and know how to properly use firearms safely, but I'm far from an expert on the field) and have always wanted to learn more. Mine is very similar to yours, but mine still has the wooden stock with the thumb hole on it. I still have to say I have mixed feelings about the stock. I've had it for several years but I'm still honestly not sure if I like it or not. Lol Anyway, from what I was able to find out, the Egyptian AKs were made using Russian parts like you said. And if I recall, the Egyptian make AKs were second only to the actual authentic Russian AKs. Also if I remember correctly, it was not only due to the Russian made parts used to manufacture them on the Egyptian factories, but the Russians built the factory themselves and very closely monitored the entire process more than other manufacturers. Basically, if I am remembering correctly, the Russians really took a special interest (much more than any other manufacturers aside from Russia, of course) in the entire operation, including oversight, production, quality control, etc. etc. etc. I read pretty much everything you mentioned in the video, including how they had to make a few modifications (like shaving the bayonet lug and replacing the stock to a thumbhole one, as I mentioned mine had earlier, in order to sell them in the US market. However, there are a few words stamped/engraved on the metal that I was unable to find out the meaning to. Directly under the left side of the adjustable sights, it has "MISR S/A" (I'm guessing the S/A must mean semi automatic) and right below that it has "Cal 7.62x39mm", which is self explanatory. However, on the opposite side of the gun under the right side of the sights is what I can't find any info on. It has "MADE BY MAADI CO IN EGYPT" stamped/engraved on it and below that it has "IMPORTER C A I At Alb VT". At least I'm pretty sure that's what it says. Some of the letters are small and hard to make out. But I'm hoping you (or someone else who may read this comment) might have some insight or be able to tell me or find out what it means. From what I read, it's supposedly a high quality rifle but I really don't know so Any info on the value would be appreciated also, but any feedback at all would be appreciated. Also, if you would like to see any pictures or have any questions, please feel free to ask. I can e-mail you any pics if you like. I know the video has been up for some time so if you don't respond, I'll understand. There is a good chance you may not even be aware of this comment/question. Thank you for your time. -Rick
Best Maadi info I've come across, After I picked up a Maadi RPM in a multi gun trade, I knew very little about this Gem. At first sight I thought the finish had been Rattle canned by some Billy Bob Bubba Boy down the line, the Egyptian stamps looked more like heavy scratches than stamps. After doing a little research I found that the paint job is original, and the markings were not gouged in scratches. Also learned very quick that I now owned a very well made sought after AKM!
My Maadi has the threaded barrel with the Black/Blue grip, also has the wood butstock with kinda matching upper/lower handguards. Out of all of my AK's the Maadi looks like the ugly duckling out of the bunch, out on the range, she drives like a vintage Ferrari! There is nothing I can add to my Maadi to make it run any better than it already does!
And thanks for a very informative video!
Hey misha, what kind of paint did they use on the original aks? Also do you think moly resin would be a good substitute for an original look .
Was the Maadi RML just an Import only configuration with the 20" barrel? Or was it in use of some sort with the Egyptian military? Thanks!
Was the RPM/RML long barrel versions just a America import deal or were they in service with the Egyptian military?
Whats the general consensus on the maadi misr-10? I bought a 2000 model unknowingly before watching this video and now wish I’d waited to get an ARM . Is the MISR10 still desirable ak? If so why ? Thanks
I'm looking at getting a maadi misr s/a and I was curious if I should grab it or walk away. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Man, I have seen some videos that just waste time and are just horse hockey. But your video is so full of great information. It's almost like I bought the weapon and asked you to teach me about it. Of course, I just got my ARM Maadi the day before yesterday. It's my second one and it'll not be sold. Anyways, great video.
I was not expecting this comment to go in the direction it did, but am grateful for it. 😁
Just started the paperwork on one tonight + a chinese sks LoL learning as I go! California is so hard to find anything decently priced
@@ex-spontaneous-spontaneous4134 hang in there, it'll happen. You'll get it done. Try Sarco and akfiles.
@@kenm8376 thanks for the tips! Looks like there's lots of good info!!
Questions; A MISR SA is all egyptian? Or is it 5 US parts? OR does it have MAK90 internals?
Great information in this vid. Any idea how Croatia ended up with a bunch of the Maadi rifles. I had a kit built from one and it came with a Croatian police force tag on it. Great rifle with all sandscript markings.
The Croats intercepted and captured a large shipment of maadi rifles that were suppose to go to Bosnia.... many of the egyptian kits that imported here at one time were from Croatia and from that intercepted batch of rifes intended for Bosnia. I have one as well but not lucky enough to have a sticker like yours, many were in great shape like mine is because they were not used much if at all..
Egypt was supplying parts of that conflict and were having trouble getting them in the hands of some. Plus trying to avoid the whole issue of not falling into war crimes which most of that conflict fell under afterwards..... they even made a very rare discreet export version specifically for the balkans that came with no arsenal markings to show the manufacture and its country of origin on the trunnion, with SAR selector markings, and a dong grip exactly like the Romanians had just to give the impression that they were in fact Romanian AK variants instead of Egyptian which would have arrosed many questions to some at the time...
AK47(AngelKing)AK74 I just purchased a rifle presented as a Balkan war kit, all matching serial numbers but no Arabic markings. It has caliber marking on the left side of rear sight post. The furniture looks Egyptian with East German crutch folder but I’m not confident I have an Egyptian Maadi? The kit was sent to and built by In Range and is a cool rifle at a decent price $750 . I wish I knew for certain it was a Maadi.
So it's cool to slap some Croatian mags in one?
Most of the videos on the AK47 are fairly old. You seem to have an ongoing attachment to yours, which is great. You seem to be very knowledgeable on them so I thought I would run a few questions in regards to mine. I noticed on one of the videos, one fella was panning a closeup of his and you could see the serial number. His started with "ES" mine begins with, "AC". I was curious if this meant anything such as it does in the VIN to a vehicle. Also another gentleman was showing how authentic his was because it had the Egyptian numerals on the site bar. Mine has our numbers. I bought mine about 20 years ago at a gun show for 900.00. The but of mine has the pistol grip as a rather large oval type hole where my thumb goes thru and I can rest the butt on my shoulder. Seems like all of the others I see on the videos show a separate pistol grip from the butt. Mine has all of the MAADI stamps on the left side rear, as do the others I have seen, but mine has a stamp on the right side, just forward of the clip that has stamped, "A.C.C. INT/INTRAC"
"KNOX. TN."
"EGYPT"
Just curious if you knew the purpose of that? I don't know of another rifle that feels like you could drop it in the bayou and pull it out of the mud a year later and just start ripping with it! The cleaning kit in the butt and the ability to break the gun down is unlike any other rifle I have put my hands on. If there are others built like that, what are they, in your opinion? I have a couple of AR15's and if I dropped them on the concrete, it's a 90-10 chance that I just broke something!!! Anyway, I was just curious if you could maybe shed a little light on mine for me. Thanks.
It sounds like you have a MISR S/A they were imported I believe from 1997-2001 maybe 2002 before ties were cut off with imports from Egypt.
Okay I have to say one thing, I own a Misr90 yeah I realize it's the dumpster fire of the AK world. Yes it does have a slightly canted front sight and yes the slanted receiver totally sucks. But with that being said foam hole stock is gone and I have modified with the appropriate parts, I have put more than 1500 rounds or possibly close to 2000 rounds with zero malfunctions. So in my opinion it's not quite the dumpster fire that everybody thinks they are. I purchased this weapon in the early 2000s not knowing any better, but as far as my opinion goes it's done a fairly decent job. I think it stands right up there with the type 56 mak-90.
Can you thread a Pars International Post ban barrel with the threads turned off?
I have a MISR10 that has had the mag well opened, so far it runs fine. I've compared its front trunnion to the one in my Intrac ARM, my feg sa85m and a few more of my akm pattern rifles and can see no difference. They look identical and there is what appears to be factory finish on the misr trunnion still. It does have a single stack bolt, but very little has been taken off of the sides and none off of the bottom. So far through several different mag types it feeds fine.
MISR-10's are chinese junk
Love my MAADI
love the folding wire stock. where can i get one and does fit a regular stamped reciever
Yes, it goes into a stnadard AKM trunnion, so will fit the WASR10 and all Maadis, cheers.
I can get a wasar side folder for 829.00 is that a good price ..what's your opinion on the side folders ..
What can be done to a misr 90 to make it a good rifle
I am from maadi and proud
Not because am Egyptian but couse maadi is a great and a very different part of the whole universe
Misha, just picked up a maadi arm from intrac.... little worse for the wear.... but gonna spiff her all up and get her running again
Will the SA and the 90 have the receiver marked with those designations?
The SA's are marked MISR SA or MISR S/A on the rearsight block on the left hand side.
So intrec is who imports I take it. Someone has a intrec mk2 romanian ak. Never heard of it. Any info is good.
Awesome akm info as usual. Someday ill find my preban. I have seen them top 4 grand, no way could I do that.
While I'd not mind a Steyr of course, agreed $2k and really the only big difference (after debanning) between one and my Intrac is the bayo lug & bragging rights? For that money, you can keep your lug and my pride isn't worth $3k lol.
I just scored a mint condition Steyr Maadi for just $1,800. Couldn't believe my luck and if not for the knowledge gleaned from this video I wouldn't have recognized it for the bargain that it was. Thanks Misha! Love your videos!
So the Maadi has become one of my favorite AKM pattern rifles. The small idiosyncrasies are what give it so much character. Black, blue, brown grips and bayonets, Mismatched shades of upper and lower hand guards, Arabic or western markings or even both on the same number matching rifle! I have a full Arabic marked 1988 parts kit and a half western, half Arabic 1987. The strange thing is that my 1987 has an Arabic marked rear sight block serialized with a matching western marked sightleaf. I can not find any info on why some had one, or the other, in markings, wood, or colored grips. Even the imported rifles that had the pharaohs crown had some with western number 54 and some with the Arabic 54. There seems to be no rhyme or reason. The Maadi is like a box of chocolates because you never know what you are going to get! Also the icing on the cake for me is the green sling that makes the rifle stand out. All of these strange things make it much more appealing to me than some of the others where you know they will all be identical. My .02 on the Maadi. Thanks for the video!
Thanks much for watching, cheers.
I know this comment is old but Egypt stopped using Arabic numerals at some point they discovered that the origin was Indian so they just use western numerals after that.
@@IGD-974 what a load of bullshit
@@youssefzidan555 تمام الحمد لله
نعم صحيح
تمام
@@IGD-974 Those "western" numerals are actually called Arabic numerals lol. it's kinda weird
I love how people loves the Egyptian ak iam so happy 😀
The Maadi post bans were shipped with 1 5round mag!
My MISR10 is almost done with the AKM clone process. My barrel was threaded for 1/2 x 28 RH and I can't find an AK slant brake for that thread pitch anywhere. Anyone have a lead? CNC and all of them are out of stock and I've searched everywhere online.
I never know anything about weapons - just suggest --- if we use Shock Absorber same in cars but modify it to use it in The part touching the chest ؟؟؟؟؟
Is that a 30 or 40 round mag you have in it? Looks longer than usual.
Looks like a 40 round mag.
My dad gave me a Maddi, the lower was produced by a shop called Norris Armory from Woodland California anyone know anything about "Norris" the letter and number stamping were done one letter at a time and they look like they are on the ocean on a ruff day. They go up and down not a straight line at all. I probably shouldn't judge the gun by the letter stamps. The rivets look decent. The coating on the lower is a much lighter gray-green than the rest of the gun maybe I get the gun Parkerized.
What is the purpose of an export designation? What changes?
To determine ones used demostically and ones built for export to other nations for military use....
In most cases, there is no difference functionally or even in appearnce. But the difference is in the markings. Egypt uses Arabic numberals on the sight leaf and the rear sight block showing its intended caliber aswell as Arabic selector markings for the modes of fire. While export models have SAR for selector markings just as the Romanians did and regular numbers on both rsb and sight leaf. Egypt did also make a rare export version known as the discreet export that was purposily built for use in the Balkan wars that had a forward grip same as the romanians commonly called the dong grip.... it was intended to cover up any thoughts that egypt was arming cetain parts of the conflict by giving the impression that they were instead the Romanian variant.
What is the price of the gun?
I have that same ak. Is it legal to change the thumb hole stock to that one like you did? I'm confused on that.
Fuck the law
You have to have I believe 5 American parts in it or it’s not legal to dump the thumb hole stock. Look it up online. It’s there.
مصر دولة محاطة بالاعداء و اكثر دولة في محيط الشرق الاوسط دخلت حروب،لذلك تجد التصنيع العسكري لديها مميز و فعال لكي تكون قادرة على المواجهة و الحسم في اي وقت
hey, I have an AKM from the same arsenal but of the year later. In it's original 1974 receiver just because here is 100% legal
Sorry for misspelling your name lol
السلاح المصري الحصري فعلا هو " الرشاش البورسعيدي " صناعية حصرية مصرية ورائع
The closest you’ll get to a Russian AKM
Big Ben77 Kind of. Unless you consider Russian kit builds by Legion USA, and others. Or if you are talking about 100 series AKM, I would say Saiga.
Glockshooter79 that is true, only thing about Saiga is the price went up after they were banned by the last person in office
What about polytechnic legend or a type 56 under folder ?
CAVKING19DELTA TEXAS trump is a hater.
@@Apolloneek Totally different than the Soviet Bloc AKM rifles.
God Egypt gun👍
Have you ever run across an Albanian ak? I read a little on them believe they are unobtanium
hunter Green They were never imported to the U.S. Even when they were available, Albania had to destroy them as one of the conditions to enter NATO. U.S., U.K., Germany, and Norway paid to have their remaining AK stockpiles destroyed!!
Scott7891 that's the story of what happened to the military stockpiles in Albania. However the world is not a nice place where everyone complies with the requirements they were given and so it happens that you can buy an ASh78 Albanian AK for a 1000€ in almost every balkan country
Correction Egypt lost 1 war with Israel, under President Abdel Nassers rule who was very close to the Russians. In the 2nd war President Sadat with very little real support from neighboroughing nations was able to attack Isreal and recover much of the previous lost Sinai land. This was no lose, militarily it was successful.
Egypt lost all wars to Israel please read the real history not the Egyptian propaganda
@@robleyusuf2566 or you read the real history and not The Jew/Israel Propaganda
@@zamalkawy4618 Israel is the Apple of God's eye. No weapon formed against Israel shall prosper. The Word Of God!
So incorrect. Isreal offered to give the sanai back as a peace offering
@@zamalkawy4618 we all know that Islam is a violent religion
I have a 1993 Maadi R.P.M.S. with bipod lug. Y Stamp. Serial number is under 100. 20" barrel. I strongly dislike the 20" barrel and am going to slap a new 16" incher in that bee otch. fully deban (weld wings lol). and slap russian AKM furniture on it. At least that's my plan. someday.
Please come back Matt i miss seeing you shoot loads of clipazines
@@attributetovienna1982 idk with these ammo prices bro
@@ronalby5957 you yytitititititititititititiriririririririririririririririririririririririririririririririririririririririririririririririririr7dudueu
احلي بندقية صنع بلادي المصريين اللي هنا لايك لي
When did Egypt start producing their own AKM rifles ?
Babd cheers for that !
Crutch folders are nice but need modified as there built for short people in egpyt lol.
I live in maadi cairo its very nice city
Google it
MAADI AKM MASTER RACE!!!!
haha
คนไท ขอเอาเก็บไว้ดูสักกระบอกได้ไหม รักมากA. K
Its mixed between Russian and
East German AK47 copy
Actually the Russian supported the Egyptian pretty well before the 73 war with all the air defenses systems anti tanks missiles and the tanks and planes but Sadat for some reason took that decision
And actually during the war the Soviets were still on the support for
Even might have gone for nuclear because the zionists didn’t uphold to the ceasefire
لله علي إذا رزقني هذا الكلاشنكوف أحرر فلسطين إن شاءالله
Egypt didn’t switch sides. They still have a closer alliance with Russia 🇷🇺 than the west. Egypt also came out on top in the October war (6th of October war).
Greetings from Egypt 🇪🇬
Basically all Century Maadi was junk. They didn’t do quality control like Intrac . Intrac actually had a lot to do with qc of the first imports as they went to Egypt and did QC.
What is the rml and why doesn't it ever get spoken of?