This is the best tv video I’ve ever seen on RUclips this year. The picture quality was very good to see and not too bright like other tv videos and I’ve have seen a lot of tv videos. Lon, you should consider on doing more more videos on different television sets for the viewing audience. You do a better job at explaining everything than most other RUclipsrs. Thanks for the video!!!
I feel you )) I managed to get B7 55". A remarkable TV, coming from last year's Samsung KS9000, which was also very good one, but not close to my plasma. This oled kills plasma.
Congrats! I am so glad OLED did push through in the end. I can remember Sony showing off some small OLED screen in the showrooms that was maybe 12" and low res some 8 years ago. So this is dream come true for the fans and I hope you will enjoy it. 65" is the size to go of course! Thanks a lot for the vid and your opinion on it! I guess this was your Christmas gift Lon;)
I was planning to mention that and it slipped my mind. I remember that Sony OLED too - I saw it at my local (now defunct) electronics store in the super expensive room :). It was mind blowing and ridiculously expensive.
Is there a updated review in the work pipe? Have you had any lip sync issues so far or is that a non-issue? It would be great to see a video about settings that you have applied to get what you think is the best image quality. Best consumer channel on youtube, keep up the good work!
I too went from a Pioneer plash to an LG OLED. I thought I would be hard pressed to find a quality replacement for the plasma but the OLED blew me away. It really is fantastic in all formats but especially in 4k.
I have found it to be pretty spectacular in all situations. Low resolution obviously looks poor. Not so much because of the inherent limitations but because of the larger screen and just how good 1080p+ looks. I tried the Tru Motion change Lon suggested and didn't really notice a difference from what it was set to originally but that could be because of the content. As he mentioned the biggest benefit is that OLEDs are independent and requires no back light panel and blacks are dead black which makes the gigantic difference especially when you are in a dark room.
Todd Lampone ok because I still have a a pioneer plasma and iled would be the nesxt step except I have heard motion is not up to scratch. Merry christmas aswell
I think it's hard to determine what works for you based on someone else's review but I can tell you that it is certainly a step up form my 1080p Pioneer plasma and worth the trip to a store to take a look!
Yeah, 10k tv paid the the workers, the ware house employee, the store, the sales rep, the delivery/shipping drivers, creators so they can all feed their kids.
Hey Lon, I have last year's model. There's a specific "Game Mode" in the Picture settings where you found the TruMotion option that turns off additional post-processing that the LG display does, helping to reduce the input latency even further. I had to muck around with mine for quite a bit to get it looking right. I play a lot of fast-action, twitchy games (classic arcade and TurboGrafx-16 shoot-em-ups, for example) and this was the first non-CRT display I found where I could play those games again! I built a new HTPC to pair with this so let me share a little wisdom: when Windows 10 goes into 4K, it will enable its HiDPI scaling (at 150%, I believe). This is great for reading the text, but confuses most games; you'll get a completely black screen or you'll see the top-left corner of the game screen because its being wildly overscaled! Once you have things set up as you like them, turn the display scaling all the way back down to 100% and everything should "just work".
I recently purchased the B7 model (LOVE IT!!!), and now am in the same boat as you with needing to upgrade my receiver for 4k passthrough. Have you found a suitable replacement for yours? Would love any suggestions.
I would like to congratulate myself for being the 999th viewer of this video. I would like to give a word to the 1000th viewer and say better luck next time.
We are an elderly couple and hubby constantly falls asleep in his recliner with his hand on the remote, usually hitting random buttons while asleep. We need to have the simplest television on the market because I am not tech savvy enough to undo whatever he might mess up while sleeping! Previously had subscription with ATT UVerse and had to cancel and go with our local provider for exactly the above mentioned reason. Can't have a TV smarter than I am! Have fun with your new toy though Lon!
With a recent update the B7A now supports Dolby Atmos, but unless you want to spend major money on a soundbar that support it, it doesn’t matter. A great soundbar is better than most tv speakers anyways. So my advice, get the B7A and with the $200 saved get a nice soundbar 👍
Thanks Lon! Purchased the 55” model and the picture is amazing! LG does not seem to have the apps that previous Samsung LED tv had, HBO specifically. Also, love to hear how your NVidia Shield is working with the Tv.
Great review as usual ! Will be interesting to see viewership numbers vs your traditional vids. I cant imagine spending $1.6 or$ 2.6K on any tv however ... to each his own
I bought the 55 c7. Picture quality is mind blowing. Also, what also blew me away was the sound quality. I have an atmos system but when testing the tv with a 4k film from Netflix I didn't have it on. The sound was so good from TV I just left it on and watched the whole film. Of course the Atmos would have been better but if you don't have one, the TV sound is just awesome.
Thanks for your consumer review! I myself have owned this TV set for almost two months now. Overall, I love it. However, I have noticed a few issues that I believe is quite common amongst LG OLED TV panels (which are present in all other OLEDs from others brands as well). The first issue, which doesn't bother me as much, is somewhat of a yellow tint on the left side of the panel when a white background is present. The other, which is more of an issue for me, is vertical banding. I see from forums that some barely have any of this vertical banding, with others having a quite serious banding issue. I was curious to know if you were able to notice any of this vertical banding on your set? This usually shows up in panning shots over a clear blue sky or when a relatively dark scene is playing with some greys all over the screen. Thanks!
Wow, that is an excellent TV, movie player and game screen! Sounds like you are e very happy with it! You mentioned several times how well it does at upgrading some of the older content resolution. Do you think it would do a good job of upgrading old VHS animation videos (such as cartoons and Disney stuff)?
It should do ok - I might hook my VCR up and take a look. But just remember that VHS is the equivalent of 360p on RUclips, very little resolution going in so it won't look spectacular on a 4k set like this.
Really want this tv. We recently moved our tv to a new room and it looks small because we're sitting two further back because of our couch. But I had to get a new receiver first because my old one didn't support HDR.
Tv image looks really nice! I like the relaxed sitting in a comfy chair / couch review. Did you get a 4k disc player yet? I still havent purchased one yet. Maybe if Disney converts all the star wars films to 4k discs ill get a 4k disc player.
@Lon.TV .. Ok what about image retention or burn-in ? .. what's your take on this issue with this TV ? .. please respond .. I personally didn't want to take that risk, so I decided to skip OLED TV"s for now , and I bought a Samsung QLED TV .. so far it's very nice tv .. gets very bright and has very good blacks ..
Great video. I’m in the market for a new TV. I’m so glad I waited out the 1080p, HD, And 3D :p I hope OLED stays relevant in the upcoming years. Looking to pull the trigger on this tv. Looks awesome!
LG OLEDs are the best HDR televisions. My E6P makes my games look amazing on my Xbox One X. Gears of War 4 & Hitman has amazing HDR on OLEDs running on the Xbox One X.
Hi Lon - great video. I’m looking at possibly getting one of these sets right now. Was going for a Samsung QE55Q7F, but this looks much better although probably won’t get as bright as the Samsung.
Hello Lon, many thanks for the informative review. I own the same TV and I am thinking of adding an Nvidia Shield Box. Could you please confirm if it would be possible to get 5.1/DTS (in Kodi) if my receiver has an Optical Input only and if so how would the setup be on both the TV and the Nvidia Box. Gracias.
Great review! Hey Lon, you should really invest in an input lag tester(~$100) because your iPhone technique isn't all that accurate, especially given that you don't have a precise way of detecting when the button press actually registered on the controller. The LG C7 line has ~21.5ms of input lag in game mode.
Hi Lon, I had the same issue with the receiver being older and doesn't support hdcp 2.2. I had to run digital optical cable. This works fine but I had to change the sound settings on TV to output dts or Dolby as the TV doesn't switch automatically, and receiver won't turn on automatically. Tried using hdmi 2.2 to 1.4 converter with no luck. Even tried using Arc port from TV to receiver. I have same set up box nvidia shield tv
You should update your video. I have a B7 bought in November and it now supports Dolby Atmos. Also, when watching TV, the thin silver bezel is not noticable.
Apparently the recent firmware update improves motion significantly on these, I have heard it's on par with the Sony & Panasonic on motion. (I don't know if thats with truemotion on or off) I really do want an OLED!
Hi All. Does anyone Know how to record and watch a different channel (at the same time) on LG C7V. It doesn't let me switch unless Recording stops. Is driving me mad !. Thank you. cjd
Excellent video Lon ,can you please tell me if you already test this tv with Apple TV 4K about the HDR and more important the dolby vision not many tvs have a dolby vision on the market but this one is one of them ,because iTunes is showing more and more dolby vision movies than HDR please share your opinion thank you...
I’ll give one 2 things to complain about :-) check 5٪ gray slide and a 100% white slide and tell us how is it banding and yellow/pink tint in your set ?
Most sites have the input lag measured at 20-21 ms. Though all I can say is I tested it with NES games through an emulation PC and it was super responsive. I practiced and beat Mike Tyson in punchout, second round tko several times in game mode. Couldnt do it in the other modes, so make sure game mode is on. I also played Ninja Gaiden Black at a high level on Xbox and tested that. There is really only ONE issue that annoys me with the display. It is amazing and better picture than anything out there, but there are faint vertical bands in all of these sets as far as I understand. The severity comes down to panel lottery. All tvs have these types of quirks but this is one that can really annoy me sometimes as I see it often with gaming. I play alot of old and new games but older games have less business on the screen so its easier to see with those especially.
For games be sure to set the HDR dynamic contrast range to low, LG optimized their tone mapping in such a way that it can make HDR games look too dark, setting that value to low will put it back to the way before LG changed it.
Lol and here I am happy with my 4k LG UH6100, got it for $375! No way I can afford a $1.6k TV! But glad you like it, sure OLED is the best, I for some reason love soap opera effect on movies, maybe because I am a PC gamer and love 60 fps ON ANYTHING! Good Review Lon
Hi Lon, Nice video, finally a video that isn´t a laptop....hehehe. Nice to see ya out of your very "Static" basement setup (but i guess thats´to be expected the way you do videos :), and others, AND! myself *LOL* . Please do more videos, in the house, the garden, with the family, or your BEAUTIFUL dog!....... whatever, just change the scene a little bit from time to time. - greetings from Copenhagen. and ohhh btw, i´m leaving you as a Patreon after 2.5 years, as it is time for me to go on, and grow my own channel here in Denmark.................................................. (ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT YOU!)......You´re a very nice man, and will still watch your channel.........may the force be with you Lon.
The Dolby Vision spec does support up to 12 bit colour depth (and content is mastered in 12 bit) but no retail TV, including this one, supports any more than 10 bit. Dolby do claim that 12 bit mastered Dolby Vision content down-sampled to 10 bit is still better than HDR10, but you'd expect them to.
Hey Lon, I was just looking around on Ebay for some computer stuff and this strange looking device popped up in one of my "all-in-one PC" searches which is an all in one pc but its inside a keyboard. Say what? I didn't even know they made all in 1 pc keyboards but apparently they do! I think you need to do a video on some and if you already have, please send me the link so i can go check it out. I am curious how it will do some stuff like your under $200 laptop tests with Minecraft etc. considering this keyboard pc is only $99 I think it would be an affordable video for you to do. Please reply to me on here and let me know what you think about this idea. The brand that I found was called Rhino PC but there might be more brands out there.
Hi Lon, avid watcher of your videos and I do realise that you are NOT a HELP or SUPPORT service, but I have a question. I think I know the answer, but would like to confirm. I just purchased the LG 65" C8 and loving it. I have loaded the PLEX app, and am trying to play movies from either my Mac Mini or my Synology NAS. When I hit the enter, it just sits there with a spinning circle. Is this because my devices are now to old. The Mac Mini is 2012 2.6Ghz i7 with 16GB of 1600 DDR3 memory, and the NAS is a DS414+ 4 cores with default memory...I would of thought either of these would lay smoothy....Any ideas, sorry for the long winded post. I might add, that some of the 1080p episode downloads of shows eg : Madam Secretary do play, but only after I see a buffer statement and then it pays, like maybe 15 secs from when I hit enter. Thanks in advance.. OH, and my answer is, the tech I have is just getting too old.
@@LonSeidman Thanks Lon, not entirely sure what you mean here, but I will google search around. I did bring up my settings for PLEX in the browser and checked the box "Use hardware acceleration when available" that was not checked. Maybe that is what you meant. will try it anyway.
I bought the Samsung Q9E the picture was good blacks were awful, returned it the next day. went with the 65 sony Bravia XBR65A1E , got home unboxed set it up awful design tv sits at a slight up angle no idea why they decided to do it, picture looks to animated and unnatural almost like it was it was Computer Animated or CGI enhanced, returned it. finally decided to go with the LG C7 65" the E9 was $800 more just for the built in soundbar, already have a amazing 7.2.4 home theater system. the LG C7 is EXACTLY what i needed. Picture is looks so natural blacks are black , the OPPO 203 4KUltra player is just WOW. hands down the best tv for $1000 less than the 2 i have returned. first LG product i have ever owned and very impressed and satisfied
HI Lon.TV i really like your Video. It is not to technical and easy to understand. Just the way i like and witch informes and entertain me well. tnx a lot
Be careful LG 4K OLED tvs suffer from burn-in/image retention. My two year old LG 4K OLED TV had to have its screen replaced, buy LG, due to screen burn-in only after 15 months. The replacement screen is now experiencing burn-in just after six months. Buy an LG 4K OLED TV at your own risk!
No mention of OLED degradation (aka OLED equivalent to burn-in) in the review. With OLED light set to 80 for typical use, you're bound to see it within a couple of years. Check rtings' burn in testing of B6 models. And no LG has done nothing substantial to reduce this issue. It's an inherent flaw in the OLED technology.
Testing input lag with a 240fps camera isn't ideal and will skew results. At least a 1000 fps camera is recommended so each frame will be 1ms intervals vs 4.16ms for 240fps. Otherwise good overview.
LG's documentation warns of an effect similar to burn in, in which images can sometimes stick on the display after being static on-screen for too long, although the pixels, physically, are still fine. The C7 has some onboard utilities for clearing this issue. I have never had this issue on my C7, I've heard LG fixed this (maybe in firmware) but I don't really know.
Seems like this has some of the shortcomings of LED. Soap opera effect, jaggedness, motion blur etc etc. Help me understand. The reason for most of these issues is If it’s converting from a refresh rate of 24hz to 60hz as you say. Yet plasma has a refresh rate of 600hz I believe and exhibits none of these problems. Doesn’t plasma convert 24hz to 600hz. I have 3 plasmas and 2 lcds so I do notice a difference btw
FIrst off, the soap opera effect is optional on this set. There's an option to disable it. Regarding jaggedness (or "judder" as I would call it) on plasmas - my Panasonic Viera from 2008 has judder. In fact, I think all plasmas have judder to varying degrees. Now you mentioned the 600hz refresh rate -- well www.cnet.com/news/what-is-600hz/ says that's essentially a marketing term. That is, there is a 600hz refresh rate that produces an effective 60hz refresh rate. EDIT: An even better explanation of the 600hz marketing term - www.lifewire.com/what-is-a-sub-field-drive-1847853.
Those aren't shortcomings of LED/LCD those are post processing effects how well those are done varies from display to display. OLED is free from almost all the downsides of LED/LCD of which their are many poor input lag, narrow viewing angles, bad contrast, bad HDR, dirty screen effects, screen glow, backlight bleeding etc. Plasma 600Hz is marketing rubbish, it's just more post processing soap opera effect with a different name.
+Void Toast - As stated in the 2 links I gave in the comment before yours, the 600hz plasma refresh rate is not a "post processing soap opera effect". It's just not the refresh rate we care about.
@Lon.TV When you are in the mood of calibrating the picture, you can manually update the TV's firmware www.lg.com/us/support-product/lg-OLED65C7P#softwareFirmware and then use the technicolor picture preset.
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This is the best tv video I’ve ever seen on RUclips this year. The picture quality was very good to see and not too bright like other tv videos and I’ve have seen a lot of tv videos. Lon, you should consider on doing more more videos on different television sets for the viewing audience. You do a better job at explaining everything than most other RUclipsrs. Thanks for the video!!!
I have a C7 arriving next week. So excited.
I love this dude's channel...always an honest review!
I bought the C7 55" back in late August. I also own and XBOX ONE X and I can tell you, it's absolutely amazing, worth the price.
Andrew Clement Nice to know. I also bought an Xbox One X and expecting the delivery of the 65" C7.
Alberto González yeah it's definitely worth it, gaming, watching movies, general TV shows etc
Thanks for the heads up looking to get the same setup c7 55 with the xbox x.
B Sawyer you won't be disappointed
@alrberto, even tho the 55 inch has less input lag i would love to know if the difference is noticeable on the 65 inch
I've been eyeing the 55" B7 for 2 months, but the complicated part is convincing my wife that we NEED THIS.
I've found begging for forgiveness vs. asking for permission to be the best strategy on these matters.
Respect!
I feel you )) I managed to get B7 55". A remarkable TV, coming from last year's Samsung KS9000, which was also very good one, but not close to my plasma. This oled kills plasma.
Oh yes ! how much i agree with you !
Lon as all ways great info, and as the owner of a 65E7 I could not be more excited to see you own a LG OLED!!!!
I thought I had a spot on my monitor, but Lon has a dent in his drywall!
:) yes I have to find a painting to cover that up!
Lon, this is the best LG Oled review I've seen...great job!
Congrats! I am so glad OLED did push through in the end. I can remember Sony showing off some small OLED screen in the showrooms that was maybe 12" and low res some 8 years ago. So this is dream come true for the fans and I hope you will enjoy it. 65" is the size to go of course! Thanks a lot for the vid and your opinion on it! I guess this was your Christmas gift Lon;)
I was planning to mention that and it slipped my mind. I remember that Sony OLED too - I saw it at my local (now defunct) electronics store in the super expensive room :). It was mind blowing and ridiculously expensive.
Is there a updated review in the work pipe? Have you had any lip sync issues so far or is that a non-issue? It would be great to see a video about settings that you have applied to get what you think is the best image quality. Best consumer channel on youtube, keep up the good work!
I too went from a Pioneer plash to an LG OLED. I thought I would be hard pressed to find a quality replacement for the plasma but the OLED blew me away. It really is fantastic in all formats but especially in 4k.
Todd Lampone what about the motion?
I have found it to be pretty spectacular in all situations. Low resolution obviously looks poor. Not so much because of the inherent limitations but because of the larger screen and just how good 1080p+ looks. I tried the Tru Motion change Lon suggested and didn't really notice a difference from what it was set to originally but that could be because of the content. As he mentioned the biggest benefit is that OLEDs are independent and requires no back light panel and blacks are dead black which makes the gigantic difference especially when you are in a dark room.
Todd Lampone ok because I still have a a pioneer plasma and iled would be the nesxt step except I have heard motion is not up to scratch. Merry christmas aswell
I think it's hard to determine what works for you based on someone else's review but I can tell you that it is certainly a step up form my 1080p Pioneer plasma and worth the trip to a store to take a look!
I've been on OLED for 5 years now. Started on Samsung 55" OLED and upgraded to 65" LG G6 OLED. Once you go OLED you never want to go back to lcd.
Yes they did. It was called the S9C. It cost me $10k at the time
The real question is why would anyone rich or not spend 10k on a tv? There are starving kids in......
Yeah, 10k tv paid the the workers, the ware house employee, the store, the sales rep, the delivery/shipping drivers, creators so they can all feed their kids.
How far do you sit from your 65" Oled ? I'm still not entirely sure whether to go 65 or 55.
Hey Lon, I have last year's model. There's a specific "Game Mode" in the Picture settings where you found the TruMotion option that turns off additional post-processing that the LG display does, helping to reduce the input latency even further. I had to muck around with mine for quite a bit to get it looking right. I play a lot of fast-action, twitchy games (classic arcade and TurboGrafx-16 shoot-em-ups, for example) and this was the first non-CRT display I found where I could play those games again!
I built a new HTPC to pair with this so let me share a little wisdom: when Windows 10 goes into 4K, it will enable its HiDPI scaling (at 150%, I believe). This is great for reading the text, but confuses most games; you'll get a completely black screen or you'll see the top-left corner of the game screen because its being wildly overscaled! Once you have things set up as you like them, turn the display scaling all the way back down to 100% and everything should "just work".
I bought the E6P a year ago and couldn't be happier.
I recently purchased the B7 model (LOVE IT!!!), and now am in the same boat as you with needing to upgrade my receiver for 4k passthrough. Have you found a suitable replacement for yours? Would love any suggestions.
I would like to congratulate myself for being the 999th viewer of this video. I would like to give a word to the 1000th viewer and say better luck next time.
We are an elderly couple and hubby constantly falls asleep in his recliner with his hand on the remote, usually hitting random buttons while asleep. We need to have the simplest television on the market because I am not tech savvy enough to undo whatever he might mess up while sleeping! Previously had subscription with ATT UVerse and had to cancel and go with our local provider for exactly the above mentioned reason. Can't have a TV smarter than I am! Have fun with your new toy though Lon!
Just snatch the remote out of his hand and bop him on the head with it. That's what my parents would do. 😁
Thanks for all the tips on customizing the settings
Good review. I'd be curious to see some follow up reviews. I'm still worried about burn in issues even though LG said it has fixed the problems.
With a recent update the B7A now supports Dolby Atmos, but unless you want to spend major money on a soundbar that support it, it doesn’t matter. A great soundbar is better than most tv speakers anyways. So my advice, get the B7A and with the $200 saved get a nice soundbar 👍
xguy9 apparently their built in speaker is “Dolby Atmos” but that’s clearly just marketing lol built in speakers are always trash
Thanks Lon! Purchased the 55” model and the picture is amazing! LG does not seem to have the apps that previous Samsung LED tv had, HBO specifically. Also, love to hear how your NVidia Shield is working with the Tv.
Great review as usual ! Will be interesting to see viewership numbers vs your traditional vids. I cant imagine spending $1.6 or$ 2.6K on any tv however ... to each his own
Love your style. Great review! I'm using this TV set too. 55"
I bought the 55 c7. Picture quality is mind blowing. Also, what also blew me away was the sound quality. I have an atmos system but when testing the tv with a 4k film from Netflix I didn't have it on. The sound was so good from TV I just left it on and watched the whole film. Of course the Atmos would have been better but if you don't have one, the TV sound is just awesome.
Thanks for your consumer review! I myself have owned this TV set for almost two months now. Overall, I love it. However, I have noticed a few issues that I believe is quite common amongst LG OLED TV panels (which are present in all other OLEDs from others brands as well). The first issue, which doesn't bother me as much, is somewhat of a yellow tint on the left side of the panel when a white background is present. The other, which is more of an issue for me, is vertical banding. I see from forums that some barely have any of this vertical banding, with others having a quite serious banding issue. I was curious to know if you were able to notice any of this vertical banding on your set? This usually shows up in panning shots over a clear blue sky or when a relatively dark scene is playing with some greys all over the screen.
Thanks!
Wow, that is an excellent TV, movie player and game screen! Sounds like you are e very happy with it!
You mentioned several times how well it does at upgrading some of the older content resolution. Do you think it would do a good job of upgrading old VHS animation videos (such as cartoons and Disney stuff)?
It should do ok - I might hook my VCR up and take a look. But just remember that VHS is the equivalent of 360p on RUclips, very little resolution going in so it won't look spectacular on a 4k set like this.
Very nice review! :-) Packed full of useful information. Thank you for taking the time to share your insights.
Great review. Perfect score.
Enjoy your new telly! thanks for the review.
Really want this tv. We recently moved our tv to a new room and it looks small because we're sitting two further back because of our couch. But I had to get a new receiver first because my old one didn't support HDR.
Please give us an update after some time about the reported issues with burn in & image retention. Thanks & happy new year!
MikesHDVideos wait after 7 years we will update u.
Tv image looks really nice! I like the relaxed sitting in a comfy chair / couch review. Did you get a 4k disc player yet? I still havent purchased one yet. Maybe if Disney converts all the star wars films to 4k discs ill get a 4k disc player.
Excellent review
Brovo great review! Very comprehensive.
@Lon.TV .. Ok what about image retention or burn-in ? .. what's your take on this issue with this TV ? .. please respond ..
I personally didn't want to take that risk, so I decided to skip OLED TV"s for now , and I bought a Samsung QLED TV .. so far it's very nice tv .. gets very bright and has very good blacks ..
Hey Lon, Great Video. What demo disc are you using?
Hi Lon, so it’s been a couple of months now, any issues? How you like it so far? Thanks!
Great video. I’m in the market for a new TV. I’m so glad I waited out the 1080p, HD, And 3D :p I hope OLED stays relevant in the upcoming years. Looking to pull the trigger on this tv. Looks awesome!
LG OLEDs are the best HDR televisions. My E6P makes my games look amazing on my Xbox One X. Gears of War 4 & Hitman has amazing HDR on OLEDs running on the Xbox One X.
I really liked this review out of the 10 others i watched.
Really looking like Mr Rodgers on that couch Lon lol
Hi Lon - great video. I’m looking at possibly getting one of these sets right now. Was going for a Samsung QE55Q7F, but this looks much better although probably won’t get as bright as the Samsung.
Hello Lon, many thanks for the informative review. I own the same TV and I am thinking of adding an Nvidia Shield Box. Could you please confirm if it would be possible to get 5.1/DTS (in Kodi) if my receiver has an Optical Input only and if so how would the setup be on both the TV and the Nvidia Box. Gracias.
Good video, did you update the firmware?
Great review! Hey Lon, you should really invest in an input lag tester(~$100) because your iPhone technique isn't all that accurate, especially given that you don't have a precise way of detecting when the button press actually registered on the controller. The LG C7 line has ~21.5ms of input lag in game mode.
Is it wall mountable? I don't see any screw holes on the back.
yes
How is the picture quality when watching 1080i content like Directv?
Great review, enjoyed it very much!
Lg c8 or c7 or sony a1 ..need to buy 55 inch version..which is best?
How do you record a channel while watching something else or any other app? The whole idea is to go back and watch it later . Is it not ? Thanks
that was an excellent review on the c7
Hi Lon, I had the same issue with the receiver being older and doesn't support hdcp 2.2. I had to run digital optical cable. This works fine but I had to change the sound settings on TV to output dts or Dolby as the TV doesn't switch automatically, and receiver won't turn on automatically. Tried using hdmi 2.2 to 1.4 converter with no luck. Even tried using Arc port from TV to receiver. I have same set up box nvidia shield tv
You should update your video. I have a B7 bought in November and it now supports Dolby Atmos. Also, when watching TV, the thin silver bezel is not noticable.
Apparently the recent firmware update improves motion significantly on these, I have heard it's on par with the Sony & Panasonic on motion. (I don't know if thats with truemotion on or off) I really do want an OLED!
oh man the tick is so good i cant wait till the new season comes out
I loved it! So good.
Were you running Kodi while playing Star Wars?! How did you do that?
Your video's are EPIC. Nice.
Can’t wait until they go on sale before the Super Bowl I will be getting one..
Hi All. Does anyone Know how to record and watch a different channel (at the same time) on LG C7V. It doesn't let me switch unless Recording stops. Is driving me mad !. Thank you. cjd
Excellent video Lon ,can you please tell me if you already test this tv with Apple TV 4K about the HDR and more important the dolby vision not many tvs have a dolby vision on the market but this one is one of them ,because iTunes is showing more and more dolby vision movies than HDR please share your opinion thank you...
Yes it supports Dolby vision on AppleTV - looks great !
I like your living room!
Comfortable much? Love it.
When motion is off then screen is judder and blurr so how you can watch like that,i try and thats make me sick😣😣😣😣
I’ll give one 2 things to complain about :-) check 5٪ gray slide and a 100% white slide and tell us how is it banding and yellow/pink tint in your set ?
Did anyone buy the curved lg tv with 3d? I don’t see many videos of that version
Most sites have the input lag measured at 20-21 ms. Though all I can say is I tested it with NES games through an emulation PC and it was super responsive. I practiced and beat Mike Tyson in punchout, second round tko several times in game mode. Couldnt do it in the other modes, so make sure game mode is on. I also played Ninja Gaiden Black at a high level on Xbox and tested that.
There is really only ONE issue that annoys me with the display. It is amazing and better picture than anything out there, but there are faint vertical bands in all of these sets as far as I understand. The severity comes down to panel lottery. All tvs have these types of quirks but this is one that can really annoy me sometimes as I see it often with gaming. I play alot of old and new games but older games have less business on the screen so its easier to see with those especially.
For games be sure to set the HDR dynamic contrast range to low, LG optimized their tone mapping in such a way that it can make HDR games look too dark, setting that value to low will put it back to the way before LG changed it.
I want one this coming year
Nice video as always!! Pls do a review of the Samsung qled TV and the Sony oled TV and compare them with this.
Sony uses LG-manufactured OLED panels so Sony TVs should have the same performance as LG ones.
Lol and here I am happy with my 4k LG UH6100, got it for $375! No way I can afford a $1.6k TV! But glad you like it, sure OLED is the best, I for some reason love soap opera effect on movies, maybe because I am a PC gamer and love 60 fps ON ANYTHING!
Good Review Lon
Use the isf modes or technicolour mode when watching movies and tv. Game for games
Hi Lon, Nice video, finally a video that isn´t a laptop....hehehe. Nice to see ya out of your very "Static" basement setup (but i guess thats´to be expected the way you do videos :), and others, AND! myself *LOL* . Please do more videos, in the house, the garden, with the family, or your BEAUTIFUL dog!....... whatever, just change the scene a little bit from time to time. - greetings from Copenhagen. and ohhh btw, i´m leaving you as a Patreon after 2.5 years, as it is time for me to go on, and grow my own channel here in Denmark.................................................. (ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT YOU!)......You´re a very nice man, and will still watch your channel.........may the force be with you Lon.
The Dolby Vision spec does support up to 12 bit colour depth (and content is mastered in 12 bit) but no retail TV, including this one, supports any more than 10 bit. Dolby do claim that 12 bit mastered Dolby Vision content down-sampled to 10 bit is still better than HDR10, but you'd expect them to.
I should mention, I own the 55 inch C7 and it's easily the best TV I've ever owned.
Hey Lon, I was just looking around on Ebay for some computer stuff and this strange looking device popped up in one of my "all-in-one PC" searches which is an all in one pc but its inside a keyboard. Say what? I didn't even know they made all in 1 pc keyboards but apparently they do! I think you need to do a video on some and if you already have, please send me the link so i can go check it out. I am curious how it will do some stuff like your under $200 laptop tests with Minecraft etc. considering this keyboard pc is only $99 I think it would be an affordable video for you to do. Please reply to me on here and let me know what you think about this idea. The brand that I found was called Rhino PC but there might be more brands out there.
This tv does have internal dolby atmos speakers. The only difference with the c7 and the b7 is the bezal and the stands
I picked up the LG Oled B7A Watching It Now.
Not everyone hates true motion. MarocoPolo on NetFlix Looks Amazing With True Motion set to smooth.
Be careful of burn-in, which is avoidable. And congrats on your purchase.
Might be a silly question but how do you wall mount this?
There are mounting points on the lower plastic portion
Hi Lon, avid watcher of your videos and I do realise that you are NOT a HELP or SUPPORT service, but I have a question. I think I know the answer, but would like to confirm. I just purchased the LG 65" C8 and loving it. I have loaded the PLEX app, and am trying to play movies from either my Mac Mini or my Synology NAS. When I hit the enter, it just sits there with a spinning circle. Is this because my devices are now to old. The Mac Mini is 2012 2.6Ghz i7 with 16GB of 1600 DDR3 memory, and the NAS is a DS414+ 4 cores with default memory...I would of thought either of these would lay smoothy....Any ideas, sorry for the long winded post. I might add, that some of the 1080p episode downloads of shows eg : Madam Secretary do play, but only after I see a buffer statement and then it pays, like maybe 15 secs from when I hit enter. Thanks in advance.. OH, and my answer is, the tech I have is just getting too old.
Check and see if the Mac Mini’s intel processor supports quick sync. You may not have enabled hardware transcoding on it.
@@LonSeidman Thanks Lon, not entirely sure what you mean here, but I will google search around. I did bring up my settings for PLEX in the browser and checked the box "Use hardware acceleration when available" that was not checked. Maybe that is what you meant. will try it anyway.
I bought the Samsung Q9E the picture was good blacks were awful, returned it the next day. went with the 65 sony Bravia XBR65A1E , got home unboxed set it up awful design tv sits at a slight up angle no idea why they decided to do it, picture looks to animated and unnatural almost like it was it was Computer Animated or CGI enhanced, returned it. finally decided to go with the LG C7 65" the E9 was $800 more just for the built in soundbar, already have a amazing 7.2.4 home theater system. the LG C7 is EXACTLY what i needed. Picture is looks so natural blacks are black , the OPPO 203 4KUltra player is just WOW. hands down the best tv for $1000 less than the 2 i have returned. first LG product i have ever owned and very impressed and satisfied
HI Lon.TV i really like your Video. It is not to technical and easy to understand. Just the way i like and witch informes and entertain me well. tnx a lot
Any screen uniformity issues?
Be careful LG 4K OLED tvs suffer from burn-in/image retention. My two year old LG 4K OLED TV had to have its screen replaced, buy LG, due to screen burn-in only after 15 months. The replacement screen is now experiencing burn-in just after six months. Buy an LG 4K OLED TV at your own risk!
Nice review.pls update us Sony x900e or Sony x930e
No mention of OLED degradation (aka OLED equivalent to burn-in) in the review. With OLED light set to 80 for typical use, you're bound to see it within a couple of years. Check rtings' burn in testing of B6 models. And no LG has done nothing substantial to reduce this issue. It's an inherent flaw in the OLED technology.
Any follow up to this video?
Why didn't u talk about 4k movies rather than regular blu ray?
Testing input lag with a 240fps camera isn't ideal and will skew results. At least a 1000 fps camera is recommended so each frame will be 1ms intervals vs 4.16ms for 240fps. Otherwise good overview.
My B7 supports Atmos. The differences between the B7 and C7 are purely cosmetic.
Is burn-in still a problem with OLED TVs?
Jonathan Oquendo No, LG has fixed burn in issues. Personally tested by playing a game with a static hud for over 12 hours straight.
LG's documentation warns of an effect similar to burn in, in which images can sometimes stick on the display after being static on-screen for too long, although the pixels, physically, are still fine. The C7 has some onboard utilities for clearing this issue. I have never had this issue on my C7, I've heard LG fixed this (maybe in firmware) but I don't really know.
Are there any more LG Picture Settings Videos?
Yes there's a great site for these demo videos here: 4kmedia.org/ -- lots of options with various formats that work on any TV.
Seems like this has some of the shortcomings of LED. Soap opera effect, jaggedness, motion blur etc etc. Help me understand. The reason for most of these issues is If it’s converting from a refresh rate of 24hz to 60hz as you say. Yet plasma has a refresh rate of 600hz I believe and exhibits none of these problems. Doesn’t plasma convert 24hz to 600hz. I have 3 plasmas and 2 lcds so I do notice a difference btw
FIrst off, the soap opera effect is optional on this set. There's an option to disable it.
Regarding jaggedness (or "judder" as I would call it) on plasmas - my Panasonic Viera from 2008 has judder. In fact, I think all plasmas have judder to varying degrees. Now you mentioned the 600hz refresh rate -- well www.cnet.com/news/what-is-600hz/ says that's essentially a marketing term. That is, there is a 600hz refresh rate that produces an effective 60hz refresh rate.
EDIT: An even better explanation of the 600hz marketing term - www.lifewire.com/what-is-a-sub-field-drive-1847853.
Those aren't shortcomings of LED/LCD those are post processing effects how well those are done varies from display to display. OLED is free from almost all the downsides of LED/LCD of which their are many poor input lag, narrow viewing angles, bad contrast, bad HDR, dirty screen effects, screen glow, backlight bleeding etc. Plasma 600Hz is marketing rubbish, it's just more post processing soap opera effect with a different name.
+Void Toast - As stated in the 2 links I gave in the comment before yours, the 600hz plasma refresh rate is not a "post processing soap opera effect". It's just not the refresh rate we care about.
Can't you just use optical to your receiver and plug the 4k content devices to the TV HDMI ports
Yes but optical doesn’t support lossless formats. I am going to experiment with HDMI ARC
"On the Origonal Xbox" wow, that console from 2001 sure looks high def lol
@Lon.TV When you are in the mood of calibrating the picture, you can manually update the TV's firmware www.lg.com/us/support-product/lg-OLED65C7P#softwareFirmware and then use the technicolor picture preset.
More living room reviews plz
Lon's a baller. Sweet T.V.
So c7 is better than b7?
the sound from b7 and c7 is 40 watt not 20
Can this be mounted on a wall?
Yes there are attach points on the plastic portion so the screen will stick out from the wall a bit.
It has a 21ms latency when using game mode, over 40 would be a disaster.