When to Plant Halloween Pumpkins in a Backyard Garden?
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2021
- More pumpkins? Why not?! We're going to give fall pumpkins a try and see if we can get them harvested before Halloween. Do we have enough time? We'll just have to see.
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"Well, we ain't got wet yet."16:08. I love that comment. Your soaked around the collar and the rest of that green shirt is soon to follow. I know how high humidity and dew point is here in the midlands of South Carolina is this time of year and I feel you. Love it man!
That humidity is no joke!
We used to grow Jack O Lantern pumpkins, an old heirloom variety back when our kids were young. They are great for carving and next to impervious to rotting. They also make great pies.
Fun stuff!
Last year (July 4) I planted some pumpkins in the midst of an oat/pea deer food plot at the place I hunt. I just mowed some small patches in the food plot with a weed eater and took an oscillating hoe to clear the ground. I then made a hill and planted seeds. It turned out great. The vines sprawled out in the food plot. Once the pumpkin fruits got some decent size, the weight kind of mashed down the foliage. I did this with about 10 hills. The varieties used were Big Moon and Connecticut Field. We got several 60+ pound pumpkins. With no water and one fertilizing.
I’m new to “gardening” growing things to eat lol. I am currently growing Casper pumpkin, luxury pumpkin and sugar pumpkins in central Florida so let’s see how this turns out.
Thank you very much for taking about intercropping, cover cropping and rotating. Where I live things really build up in the soil and you can get bad problems not rotating and not planting grasses and legumes. I've been trying to figure out best practices but there are a lot of factors to juggle. Again, thanks for your work!
My pleasure. Always trying to learn new techniques and new ways of doing things.
I use low boy rye grass to intercrop my pumpkins, and radish, because cucumber beetles hate radish I've read. I don't mow it because I want all the mass of the grass to continue covering the dirt. When the rye gets up and before the pumpkins start to run I crimp down and terminate the rye. It will leave a nice straw mat for the pumpkins and alot less dirt contact. For a garden size like you have, you could get a push style crimper roller.
Does that rye variety go to seed bad in the summer, or is pretty bolt-tolerant?
@@LazyDogFarm it has a very hard time in the summer it likes cooler weather and when it's hot out it is very easy to crimp and terminate
Enjoyed the video tonight. Planted some buckwheat where I had summer squash, butternut squash and zipper peas. Man has the heat been on the end of this week and weekend. Hope to see some rain Monday. Have a blessed weekend.
It has certainly been intense. I think we're getting some showers on Sunday or Monday to cool things back down.
You and your family make a great team.
Thanks y'all!
I have two awesome pumpkin plants that volunteered out of my compost bin.
That's awesome. Hopefully they make a few fruits.
Hope Brooklyn made it home safe and she has an awesome time with the girls!
She had a blast, but was ready to get back home.
Hubby keeps going back and forth on whether we are taking the kids when we take our first cruise (kids are 20 and 17 now) I will be a nervous wreck for that time but I know we need time to enjoy together.
All four varieties will be fun to see "all growed up."
Should be!
Crimping is easy on certain varieties like wheat/ triticale/ winter rye/ hairy vetch …a vetch with rye is an old standard…vetch with triticale matures closer to the same time for easy rolling
Good to know.
Your videos are always perfect timing! My youngest wanted to try to grow some butternut squash. We live in Florida and its still 93 degree highs but we're going to try to grow some this year.
Go for it! You've still got a few weeks before you'd need to plant.
I made a planter stick with pvc pipe.
I got an attachment that pops onto the straight pipe. Took a 90 elbow and attached it to that attachment piece. And then glued a 3 inch (?) Cap on the top of the elbow so it could hold my seeds.
All i have to do is walk down my row and let seeds fly!
(Im awful at seeds spacing so i was hoping it would help me be more accurate, i have an idea for a measurement piece that is essential the same as the seed holder but no cap, just a longer pieces attached to the elbow that are sized appropriately for the spacing im after. I think its probably overkill tho.)
Cool stuff! Sounds like you've got the whole "no-bend" planting thing figured out!
Good evening Travis🌅I like all the varieties you planted! I had pumpkins last year but now its probably too late to plant them here in Kansas 🌻🚜🌅Thank you for sharing!
Yeah, we're cutting it close down here. Kansas might be past the point of no return for planting fall pumpkins now.
havent grown pumpkins for a while and no plans to do so anymore. i used to grow them along my ornamental borders, sometimes getting bumper crops. As i fill in my ornamental borders, i dont want them killed by pumpkins taking over, which they tend to do.
i grew the pumpkins before i found out how to fertilize (frequently) with the right stuff, so pumpkins was always a single crop from spring planting to fall harvest.
One thing that didnt help was our summer and fall being mostly dry and only hand watering. I'd harvest the crop of pumpkins, only to find the soil parched.
anyhow, good show.
with your current back problems, you have a chance to be inventive, for your own sake and for others that have mobility issues. it's not like the main market takes any note of anyone but the fit and mobile.
Glad we've been able to somewhat show how you can still garden with limitations.
I do hope you aren't over doing it...looking forward to more pumpkins and squash..take care
Taking it easy for four more weeks.
Thank for sharing
If you’ll ductape a shallow cup that you can get seeds out of with your hand real easy to the top of that pipe it’ll be all you need. I recon it’s the easiest way I’ve found to do it.
Sounds like a good idea
That seems simple enough!
I had an idea to grow a bunch of pumpkins (&flowers) this fall to kickstart my cut flower farm. Lots of varieties from Johnny's: Cinnamon Girl, Carnival, Casperita, Renegade, Early Giant, Orange Smoothie, Flat Stacker, Charisma, Goblin Eggs, Daisy Gourd, and Harrowsmith. Whew! I sure hope we can get a good crop. Zone 8a here.
Wow! That is quite the variety. Hope they all do well for you.
Travis glad to of found you. I didn't know why the last few months why you weren't on Hoss tool all at once. I ask and ask about you and no one would tell me from Hoss tool and only today someone told me where to find you. I went back to maybe find where you went and nothing about you was left on hoss no videos or nothing. Glad to see you Travis.
Glad you found us Joel! Welcome to the new channel.
Very interesting! I'll be rooting for y'all! My Fall gardens always seemed to be my best in Zone 9b. I'm going to find out if that's the same thing here in 8b.
Fall is always my most enjoyable gardening season because temps are cooling and it just seems more relaxing.
Looking forward to seeing the kids selling those pumpkins.
Should be fun if the heat doesn't bother them too much.
Love to see those punkin grow.
Us too! One of the more fun crops to grow in the garden.
I’m growing a Cinderella pumpkin and sugar pie, first time planting pumpkins 🙌🏻
Those are really good!
Looks like you’re doing pretty good glad to see you’re making a good recovery, still holding off the planting south Anna butternut , it needs cools down some. I have noticed it seems like every seed supplier is going to 10 seats per packet anymore for a lot of stuff
For the more expensive hybrids or rare seeds, I think a lot of them are going to smaller packets to improve their margins as seed costs for them have risen.
I’m in zone 8b down here in the south Texas hill country. When would I plant pumpkins to be ready for fall/Halloween? Awesome videos sir!
I'd plant them early to mid June.
I know this is an older video so I dunno if you'll see this. Have you tried sporadically planting sunflowers throughout your pumpkin plot? Im talking very thin, like 3 foot spacing. That way when they grow up tall, they provide a little bit of shade from the heat but not enough to shade them out. The deep roots can pull up water and nutrients from further down in the soil and share with the pumpkin vines. Sunflowers would be easy to terminate also.
I have not tried sunflowers. One fall we scattered iron clay peas in the pumpkin plot and that seemed to give a little shade and help.
I just planted seeds for some Howden pumpkins about a week and a half ago. Hopefully can get some by the end of Oct or the beginning of Nov (here on the edge of 7B and 8A ). First time growing pumpkins.
Sounds like you're gonna be cutting it close like we are!
Hi, Travis. Look forward to seeing what the Black Futsu does in your garden -- I've never grown that variety.
Sure hope the Tug River Cushaw does well for you and that you like the flavor. Best wishes from Kate in Olympia, WA -- 7/30/2021.
Looking forward to it! Thanks again for the seeds.
I grew black futsu this spring/early summer here in Gainesville, FL and it was fantastic! prolific and delicious. hope you like it too. :-)
Great to hear Pamela. We look forward to it.
i have already planted "Big Moon" & "Early Sweet Sugar Pie" Pumpkins From Burpee... I start pumpkins (in trays or cups)
in June so they will be ready to transplant as soon as i can clean up after one of our canning stable vegetables are finished. I'm trying to time them for October .Maybe sell a few, Pressure can a couple...
You're a much better planner than me. I should have did the same thing.
Great info Travis! Hope Abram has a bumper crop for his market stand! 👍❤️🥰🙏
I hope so too!
cucurbita maxima and Jack o lantern pumpkins this year used a muck heap they have. Already begun to change to orange but one plant is still green so they will be ready in October
Awesome sharing ♥️♥️
Thank you! 🤗
@@LazyDogFarm u welcome 🌷🌷
Great Video. I've never grown any pumpkins.
Your round raised beds would look great full of pumpkin vines!
I thought about growing some jack-o-lantern pumpkins this year but don't have a space for them. Plus I would have to start them in June. Starting them now for us would just mean they get killed by frost beginning of Oct.
Yeah, we're cutting it really close. But we'll see what happens.
Good idea, I wonder if alfalfa would be a good cover crop.
Good question. I bet the folks at Green Cover Seed could help with that.
I watch pretty much all of your videos Travis. Though you gear it mostly towards home gardeners I learn a lot of great info from you as I am a small truck patch farmer.
We have about 7 acres of mixed pumpkins planted in North MS. With over 15-16 different varieties. I’m very curious to see how Igor turns out. It is tough to get jack o lantern style pumpkins to grow in the South I’ve found. Some years they do great, others not so much.
Keep up the awesome work!
Yeah our expectations aren't super high growing them in the fall, but we'll see what we get. Glad you enjoy the channel!
Had a great stand of Polar bear pumpkins, love that variety. However, the black futsu's did nothing didn't get even one. Can't wait to see how they do for you.
Thanks for sharing. Hopefully we can get both to produce at least a few.
I'm sorry you have a back problem Travis, I've had to have two back surgeries and I can tell you if you can do something else, like chiropractor and get some pain relief, do that.
It's getting much better now. Gonna take some time for my back muscles to strengthen, but everything else is going well.
As always great new video. I think I would use that seeding method myself. Alot easier on your back regardless of injury. I found a 10oz pack of innoculent for 12$ on True Leaf. (I was about to order thru Walmart, but when I researched where they are shipped from (Utah) I went straight to the website. And I am going to give them a try. Unfortunately I did not take into consideration how I'm going to store what I don't need until I get ready to plant my cover red rippers again. Or any other pea.
Just store the extra in the fridge. It'll keep just fine in there.
Travis, one day you will look back at this season in your life and see how God “grew” you, your marriage, and your family as you’ve always used your gift of growing to help others. I hope I’m around to see the final harvest. He is the ultimate gardener. The lessons and growth during my hardest trials have always been the most fruitful. This mother is still praying for you and your family. 👩🌾💛🌽☀️
Thanks for the kind words and the prayers.
Re: This Mother is still praying for you and your family.
What a beautiful comment. I sure miss my mom'ma. Praise God 4 those found in Christ Jesus/
the circle will never be broken. Isaiah 66:13: "As one whom his mother comforts, so I will comfort you."
I had wondered what happened to Travis. Glad to have found his new channel. I definitely understand family issues.
@@LazyDogFarm Always🌻
@@1new-man thank you. 👩🌾🙏
Hey Travis love the video. I just got my soil sample analysis back and found my soil ph is 7.8 would you recommend doing anything? Thank you for all you do!
Raising pH is really easy, lowering pH is tough. Sulfur can help, but a lot of times the experts recommend "farming it off." Grow some cover crops, work them into the soil, and it should get better over time.
Have you tried calabacitas (aka Mexican zucchini)? They're all over the farmers markets in tbe Southwest, but it took me a while to figure out the name seed companies use for the cultivar (tatume) so I could grow them myself. I've heard they also turn into nice pumpkins if you ignore them, so I'm not gonna be aggressive with my harvesting.
I have not tried those, but it sounds cool.
@@LazyDogFarm they're the only C. pepo that's doing well for me this year. The bush varieties are weirdly stunted, but everything else with reasonable vine borer resistance is doing great. Iran, Queensland Blue, and Amish Pie are dead, and I'll be thrilled if I get more than one fruit off Speckled Hound and Flat White Boer, but I'm hoping for lots of Dickinson, Long Island Cheese, Yokohama, and Musquee de Maroc.
Trying some Blue Hubbard and Cushaw myself.
Nice! Hope you have an excellent crop!
Why do you not spray liquid seven concentrate on your winter squash that you're going to eat?
I had to spray it on mine it was the only thing that would keep the squash bugs and the cucumber beetles off.
The label says you can still eat stuff after it's been sprayed with it
I just try to minimize my use of it if I can. It's not so great for the bees, so we try to use it as little as possible.
@@LazyDogFarm okay I have hives so I understand that. I went through and doctored all of mine a week ago and it's keeping the squash bugs off and the cucumber beetles but now I have something eating at the base of my plants that's leaving like a frothy substance and basically just cutting it off at the ground. Any idea what that could be? I went back through yesterday and sprayed the base of the stem and all around the ground in an effort to stop this even though I'm not sure what it is.
Not sure if this has been said, but what if you just let the cover crop go to seed since it’s a fall plot, then the seeds will just naturally sprout in the spring. Then you get an early cover crop in the spring and you can terminate it before it goes to seed for your summer vegetables.
I guess it depends on where you live and your growing schedule. We're growing year round here, so that wouldn't necessarily work. But if you're not growing in the fall/winter, you could probably try that with success.
@@LazyDogFarm okay, I didn’t think of that I’m in 7b so after November into December it gets cold enough to knock everything out. On another note I just started getting stuff from hoss after I found yalls channel this last year, I got a double wheel hoe and that has made everything so much easier. I ordered a few seed from y’all this year but next year I plan on doing my whole seed order from hoss. Y’all have a really great company and product.
I'll be interested to see how this pans out. I tried growing some Seminole pumpkins last year through the fall and I didn't have a lot of success. I only harvested two or three before the vines caved to the chilly nights.
Seminole usually does pretty well in the fall if planted early enough. That variety is pretty tough, but it wouldn't care for the cold nights as you suggested.
@@LazyDogFarm first year growing Seminole pumpkins- harvesting some now - zone 8. Please advise on storing these- will outdoors under a barn with circulation work??
@@treasuresabound0062 Yes, they'll store very well under a barn in a dry space -- sometimes over a year!
What about using radishes for the cover crop? The tillage radishes have big leaves but they don't get too tall.
That would work once it cools a bit. They would bolt too quickly in the summer heat.
Hey Travis - regarding the cover crop situaiton you described...would it be possible to plant a dwarf bush bean variety as a cover crop in that scenario? I'm assuming the dwarf size wouldn't out-compete the pumpkin plants, and the beans would restore some nitrogen back into the soil. I'd also guess the dwarf beans would kill off with the frost, or mature in about 60 days and start to die back. I guess all this would be dependent upon the dwarf bush bean variety and the plant could hold up to pest pressurea, drought, PM. As a bonus, you could have some bush beans via "intercropping" with the pumpkins if it worked out. I saw some bush beans marked down 75% on a popular seed supply site and thought about using them as a cover crop. Thoughts?
Never thought about planting bush beans as a cover crop. That could work. Maybe soybeans would be a solid option as well.
Millet might work as a cover crop mixed in with your pumpkins. Dwarf varieties exist, but I don't know where you would acquire seeds. A sack of bird seed is probably not how you want to go.
Didn't think about the shorter millet varieties. That very well could work.
What about vine boarers?
I wanted a pumpkin patch for Halloween for my kids , I’m beginner and though planting them In spring would be ready for October (zone 8b) 🥴 we have beautiful pumpkin now next year I ll plant in July
Yeah I think early July would be the more ideal planting date. We were late and we'll just have to see what happens.
How did they do? I live in zone 8b. I had the vines grow, but no pumpkin.
So you don’t put in fertilizer down for pumpkins?
Yet another very informative video session from a great gardener/ teacher. May I ask, first, have you tried Acephate to spray your pumpkins/ squash/ corn to prevent bug problems? And second, do you put up pears (preserves or spice pears) this time of year? May God bless.
I have not tried acephate. I love pears (the hard kind), but we don't have a pear tree or else I would.
Where is the best place to buy the big zinnias in bulk
If you're looking for high-quality cut flower seed, GeoSeed is your best bet. They don't have a lot of color photos and it's best to call when ordering, but they have a huge selection. Here's their site: geoseed.com
Thanks
Are you worried at all about Pickleworms? Last year they destroyed all my cushaw. This year I have insect netting covering them. It’s working pretty well, but I am always looking for advice.
A little, but I can zap them if I need to do so.
How do you zap them?
Travis, Do you ever use azomite or similar products to help replenish minerals in your soil or as part of your soil fertility plan?
I have never used Azomite. I'm not aware of any issues I've had with replenishing minerals in the soil thus far, but we'll see down the road if that becomes an issue.
Did Frankensteen make the Eyegore?
The website just says "developed by the breeders at Johnny's." Maybe one of their breeders is named Frankenstein?
Did you ever talk about when? As the title says… 😂
Hey Travis, just caught this video. I’m growing three varieties of pumpkins this fall. Diablo, hooligan, and blue bayou. I’ve had good germination and healthy growth so far. But I’m really starting to battle the squash bugs. So far the only thing I’ve tried is sevin spray from the big blue box store. I can’t tell if it’s working yet. Other than that about once every week and a half or so, I just get the eggs and the bugs when I see them. Just wondering if there are any good household remedies you’ve had success with?
Get some Bonide Fruit Tree Spray. It works very well for stuff you don't plant on eating anyways.
I wish it would rain here. My expectations is the next real rain will be around Halloween.
Hope you have some good irrigation!
@@LazyDogFarm The rates for water just keep going up, so we have to manage water usage. Jerry Brown signed a bill that over 50 gallons a day you start paying huge rates, and in something like 2025 that goes down to 35 gallons a day. Try washing dishes, clothes, taking a shower, drinking water, and flushing toilet on 35 gallons a day let alone having a garden or anything else that requires water.
Where abouts are you? I'm in the Central Valley, CA. I'm with you on the water issues!
@@gaylekerr9826 Inland Mendocino Co here. 👋 I have family in Tracy & Ripon!
@@norcalgal1876 and I have family in Ukiah!
Did you make an update video on this?
I think we did, but not sure which was it was. We did okay, but we've since stopped trying fall pumpkins down here.
Hi Travis, what do you do about stink bugs? Do you spray for them? They are now starting on my tomatoes and peppers..thankyou.
We get "leaf-footed bugs" on our tomatoes and peppers. That may be what you have. If you Google "leaf-footed bug," see if that's it. The adults are almost impossible to kill unless you go non-organic. You can kill the little guy and minimize the population boom with something like spinosad.
@@LazyDogFarm thankyou, you are correct about the correct Id of this bug. I will give it a try, and squish any adult or nymph I see..
sometime for your pepo var try cargo pmr
Noted! I've heard good things about that one.
Travis, I’ve noticed you don’t plant much with a seeder. Any reason? Just wondering.
I do if I'm planting several rows of the same thing. I use it for my sweet corn and if I'm growing a large plot of peas or beans. But if I'm just doing a single row, it's not worth the time to calibrate a plate for a specific variety.
Travis WHEN WILL YOU BE PLANTING YOUR ONIONS FROM SEED? I'M ABOUT 2 WEEKS LATER THAN YOU AND I CAN JUDGE WHEN TO PLANT MINE BE WHEN YOU PLANG YOURS.
Mid-September or so, hopefully.
@@LazyDogFarm good to know, got mine ordered Friday morning thru HT.
Travis, did you leave Hoss Tool? I haven't seen you over there for a while?
I did. I left in early April.
I am in North Alabama and for once I planted something before you. I planted pumpkins on July 4th.
On the bad side, I am still waiting for my corn to mature.
I should have planted these a few weeks earlier, but just didn't have the plots ready in time.
Do you have chiggers there? Sounds like a chigger haven , and near tomatoes, a high maintenance crop, sounds likely to get you a good crop of bites!! LOL!
Spanish moss in the live oak trees around here will hold chiggers, but that's about the place I'm aware they exist down here.
You are blessed, here they live in the tall grass
How much longer till you get out of back jail?
About 3-4 more weeks.
@Lazy Dog Farm I saw your update video. Sounds like things are on the mend. Good news. Best wishes for you!
Man we gotta talk fall sweet onions.
I know hoss is on the past but the boss tool chart says not recommended for a fall crop. I’m some 8a and you are zone 8b and you get your onions in the ground come November?? When should I start them in seed trays? I’m stressing here. I don’t care what google says, I go by what Travis says. Maybe a video??
Thanks man
I'll probably start mine in trays around mid-September. Supposed to be getting a greenhouse in a few weeks, so that will open the door for lots of good seed starting videos.
@@LazyDogFarm
Cool. I will start mine in trays beginning of September then.
@@LazyDogFarm
What greenhouse did you decide to go with?
@@Sammyj12991 I'll share that on tonight's video.
@@LazyDogFarm sweet
That tall one can make a really goofy face.
For sure! Plenty of surface area to work with.
@@LazyDogFarm Every time I see that kale I think of the clowns on the Simpsons. www.dailyedge.ie/simpsons-killing-off-krusty-sideshow-bob-1582037-Jul2014/
Do you know if anyone has used your irrigation system with a PTO roller pump out of a pond? I live in south central Kentucky and have to plant where I have a flat spot or to stay away from the deer lol. Have no well or power in those spots but do have big pond. Wife is going to get me a wheel hoe for Christmas was wanting to know about roller pump usage so I could plan on what hoe attachments would not want to waste my money on irrigation system if it didn’t work on roller pump. And I have my grandpa’s ol high wheel cultivator hoe and am afraid I am going to break it so I am going to retire it and hang it up for people to look at and your hoe will take its place.it looks like the best built hoe for the money. Thanks and I love your channel love what you do and teach. Keep it up
You can pump from a pond, but you need to add a pretty decent filter to catch the debris before it enters the drip system.
Aren’t you related to the Hoss tool guy? You don’t use hoss seeds?
Yes and no
Be careful Travis out there working in the garden.
Trying to be as careful as I can. Thanks for watching!
No longer with HOSS tools?
That is correct. I resigned in April.
@@LazyDogFarm okay gotcha
Was definitely confused when your new channel appeared but I’m glad a found you
Still subscribed to the old and just subscribed to the new
Many thanks for your valuable content!!!
Get good with a weed-eater.
I've got lots of experience with a weed-eater. Used to work for a golf course in college and would weed-eat ditches and ponds all day long.
15 minutes into the vid and not a single word about "When to Plant Halloween Pumpkins in a Backyard Garden" 🤷♂
That's what I'm thinking.