2015 season after his knee surgery. Went from a top 5 player (27, 7, and 3, on 45% shooting) to barely able to post 24 a game with sub par efficiency. It was all downhill from there.
I’m glad Portland gave him the chance to show he can still be productive. Being the #2 guy when Cj went down and turning back the clock for a couple of games was dope to see
your videos are so goated, there's very few youtubers that can simultaneously break down players while also analyzing adjacently relevant topics (both in great depth), and you do it so seamlessly, please keep on making videos!!!
had zero expectations for this subcount and video title but fantastic bro textbook execution subbed makes me want to take classes more seriously to be better at writing in this way fluently and easily great job man
2014 was the last year of prime Melo after his 2013-14 season his fg% was never 45% or above and he never averaged more than 5 freethrow attempts again.
45% was around his normal average every season as he was not consistently efficient outside of a few season.but getting less free throws did hurt him bad
@@bdbnation413 yeah but post 2014 he never reached that 45% fg again, in addition to not putting pressure on the rim and taking too long to develop as a catch n shoot threat. When you break it down, if you take away the efficiency of Melos pull up, which was effective for a decade. Melo didn’t do many things well
@@Watchingvideoslikeu I’m with you. My argument is just that the injury didn’t really affect his efficiency as it was about the same. If melo was more efficient in his prime he might’ve had a few years averaging 30.
@@bdbnation413 yeah we’re on the same page, I think since he didn’t drive to the basket as much as he should have with his frame he never became as efficient as he should’ve been, also he didn’t rebound as much as he should’ve especially on the offensive end. He didn’t take advantage of his height and weight enough, in other aspects of the game outside of midrange pull-ups or post fadeaways. Once his athleticism diminished and he tried to get the same shots off it showed that his bag wasn’t really that deep to begin with.
@@russianroulxtteThe next season he’d go on to have a more complete game and became a great defender on wings. Melo was 2nd to Kawhi Leonard in wing defense at one point that season. He became a much better passer and fans coined the term “Dad Melo”. 2015 was shaky but his 2016 season was his last great one.
he was never washed! his ppg wet down over time because he wasn't the number 1 option, but his efficiency stayed about the same the whole way! he was a bucket till the end!
injuries did play a part of i blame phil jackson. the only competent team the knicks had with melo was 11-12 after the trade and 12-13. once 14 came around all knicks fans were questioning what the hell are we doing. tyson chandler was a shell of himself and constantly hurt amare was done, was having anger problems, and also hurt and then they brought in andrea bargnani to a team with only one defender which was one legged chandler. melos injuries definitely slowed him down you see it with the weight gain from his first year in ny to his last. the team had no direction and aging stars. melo probably looked around in that 14 season and said fuck it i gotta do what i can. melo always caught a lot of hate for "not caring about winning but scoring 30" or that "he only plays for money" i watched melo every game on the knicks as a high schooler and literally watched him drag the knicks to wins going up against every big 3 when our big 3 was melo amare and chandler (jr smith clutch af too) melo did everything that he could in ny when management did their job. thanks for this video because this is one player that got a lot of hate while he played and just as much after retirement.
Would love this type of video for his Thunder teammate Russell Westbrook (although maybe not so much as a 'when was he washed', rather a 'when was he not viable as a true playmaking hub anymore'). Been loving your output and going back through it all recently man, keep it up bro!
Ngl Russ is tricky cuz i thought after 2019 he was finished as a star , he hardly dunked , yes he focused more on playmaking and passing and let PG takeover he only avg abt 20 and he jus didnt look like Russ much that year , but then he went to Houston put up 27 a game and looked as athletic as ever , went to washington struggled the 1st half of the year due to injuries , but closed the season out strong , then he went had a bad time in LA then got to the clippers and had a 30ppg playoff series vs suns , so hard to tell really when it happened
Oh man these videos are dope! Looking forward to seeing what you do next. I wanna see a Lebron video and what makes him so great even at his advanced age
Melo’s “decline” and exit out of the league is sort of misleading and just a little tragic considering he’s one of the greatest scorers the league has ever seen. I think washed insinuates there was a point that Melo couldn’t compete in the NBA and contribute and tbh I think he retired before that point entirely came. He fell out of his prime sure, but he really maintained a level of skill and play where he easily could’ve serviced a team longer than when he’d retired. Unforunately I think his style of play (mid range mastery and iso ball) was becoming “outdated” with the hyper offense run and gun with small ball erupting in the league and whether true or not Melo had a public perception of not being entirely selfless or willing to change his style (to that end he REALLY tried being a spot up 3 guy for Houston but it became clear that just wasn’t his game as he’s a rhythm shooter not a camp out in the corner and wait his turn guy). So I think a lot of teams were just like not willing to take on a guy who they might’ve felt time was leaving behind despite his undoubted ability to still score (Portland showed that despite aging Melo could still come off anyone’s bench and get a bucket when you needed it or spark the offense, maybe not lead like he used too but he could get you points).
Took a hit in 2015 then really leveled off after 2017, which is year 14/15. That's a very good career trajectory, but the lack of a chip and comparisons to Lebron will always hurt his legacy.
He was never washed he just wasn't good enough to be the an all star and his game could never translate to being a role player as he was an awful defender and was an average catch and shoot shooter.
I always felt he was a bit overrated as a scorer. Like he's no doubt a fantastic scorer, but people put him in conversations for one of the greatest scorers ever which is just absurd to me. In my opinion, he isn't one of the top 10 scorers of this century. Or even if he is, he's in the bottom half of the top 10.
amazing video, breakdowns are so in depth, I’ve been wanting to get into the player profile analysis and scheme analysis to understand better when i watch film , are their any resources you recommend?
One thing with melo I feel like he underachieved on getting a ring in his prime. I wish he would have teamed up somewhere else instead of going to the Knicks & later in his career retire with the Knicks. I know lala was a main reason of the move because she wanted to further her career in acting and other things, oh yeah the money as well.
Great video. Put into words what I have been trying to explain about Melos game. Every now and then I see a highlight video of him with casual NBA fans arguing he could “still be the guy” or that he was “blackballed from the league”. No. I wish I could link this video to everyone who says otherwise
Wen Melo went to the rockets I know he had to retire Greatness 3 level scorer to ever played but I wish he woulda got a ring fs n final MVP no lie he almost establish player hall of famer in my books
He should’ve never left the Knicks. He tossed his keys away. Soon as he left. Now u on another man’s team and they can do whatever they want with ya. He became relegated to the 4th option. Adams was getting more touches in OKC. And this goes for guys like Russ Dame Harden. They sign those super maxes then force their way out n it never works. Once u got the keys. Keep em!
Great vid. For me it was 2016 when he just looked like a shell of himself. Truthfully, I couldn’t believe we were able to trade. But, I thought he would be to OKC what Ray Allen was to The Celtics (different games of course). Because when Ray got to Boston he was no longer a franchise player, but rather a really good offensive threat that played off of players rather than having an offense run through them.
Carmelo refused to adjust any part of his game once he lost his athleticism. He could've EASILY been a chris Bosh or Shane Battier type player if he gave a damn about defense or playing off the the ball. But his game never adjusted, like Westbrook, & he was washed as soon as his prime was over.
I say washed in 2015/2016. In the right system even in his last prime years he could've still been hella productive. But he kept going to places where he needed to be more than what he could realistically be so it never worked out (along with other things, I'm not putting it all on him). Melo could've and should've still been a prime contender at least until 2018, and then a vet guy for a few years then retired around the same time he did. But we all know melo chased the bag, and when doing that you lose building a foundation in the league for your later years.. Your decline is more magnified, and next thing you know you're just out of the league one year.
i love how you scripted this video telling us that we can click off the video bc you technically already figured out when he got washed but still having fair points to make that maybe he wasn't washed making us stay to the end but at the end you didn't really change your answer besides saying your preferred year while still giving us a option to choose when we think he fell off based upon his athletic decline Basically good video bro
I wish Carmelo would have got drafted by Detroit and gotten a ring his rookie year. He would've been way more of an all around player if he would have been defeated by Detroit but by going to Denver he was always forced into a number one Batman position when he was better off suited as being Robin.
I believe the Phil Jackson BS and his troubles with his wife affecting him more than anything. Obviously injuries as well. But mentally i believe trying to deal with his failed marriage and the way the Knicks handled shit was big as well. Dude gave his soul to NY and Phil just sort of... Shitted on all that.
@@russianroulxtte happy to see the grow of your channel your pretty entertaining do you plan on going the route of analyzing players or going more in depth in the mechanics of the game
2015 season after his knee surgery. Went from a top 5 player (27, 7, and 3, on 45% shooting) to barely able to post 24 a game with sub par efficiency. It was all downhill from there.
is he really top 5 in 2014 or 2015?
@@snowman_ovenyes considering he was getting the best of Lebron when they matched
@MrDiMES123 2013-14 top 5 bron, kobe, KD, cp3 then Melo? over wall, pg13, curry, bosh, harden?
2014-15 Melo only played 40 games this season
after he left the knicks besically
It was over 2 years after he joined the Knicks
I’m glad Portland gave him the chance to show he can still be productive. Being the #2 guy when Cj went down and turning back the clock for a couple of games was dope to see
And also proved the NBA did in fact try black ball him
your videos are so goated, there's very few youtubers that can simultaneously break down players while also analyzing adjacently relevant topics (both in great depth), and you do it so seamlessly, please keep on making videos!!!
I'll try my best thanks for the kind words
@@russianroulxtteI also love the Zelda music!!!!🎉
had zero expectations for this subcount and video title but fantastic bro textbook execution subbed makes me want to take classes more seriously to be better at writing in this way fluently and easily great job man
read alot of scholarly articles
IMO he aged very well, obviously he declined a bit, but even in his later years with portland and la he was still solid
It was so surprising as a Knicks fan to see him make that comeback on Portland cause I thought his career was over in Houston ngl
What’s crazy is he played better in Portland than okc
@@notreallyafamousartist695Westbrook effect
@@notreallyafamousartist695He didn’t fit in OKC
Trash for the last 10 years of his career
2014 was the last year of prime Melo after his 2013-14 season his fg% was never 45% or above and he never averaged more than 5 freethrow attempts again.
45% was around his normal average every season as he was not consistently efficient outside of a few season.but getting less free throws did hurt him bad
@@bdbnation413 yeah but post 2014 he never reached that 45% fg again, in addition to not putting pressure on the rim and taking too long to develop as a catch n shoot threat. When you break it down, if you take away the efficiency of Melos pull up, which was effective for a decade. Melo didn’t do many things well
@@Watchingvideoslikeu I’m with you. My argument is just that the injury didn’t really affect his efficiency as it was about the same. If melo was more efficient in his prime he might’ve had a few years averaging 30.
@@bdbnation413 yeah we’re on the same page, I think since he didn’t drive to the basket as much as he should have with his frame he never became as efficient as he should’ve been, also he didn’t rebound as much as he should’ve especially on the offensive end. He didn’t take advantage of his height and weight enough, in other aspects of the game outside of midrange pull-ups or post fadeaways. Once his athleticism diminished and he tried to get the same shots off it showed that his bag wasn’t really that deep to begin with.
@@WatchingvideoslikeuCarmelo rebounding was one of the best for position as 6’8 sf…. He known to have one of the best 2nd jump rebounds for a while
This is next level hoop analysis my friend
2015 clips he just looked so much more stiff
he was moving so heavy, knee injuries are scary
Tht knee surgery destroyed him. Only SAS touched on it. His knee surgery was quiet but very damaging.
@@freezhollywood i wonder what he could have done differently to circumnavigate it?
@@jmgonzales7701 good question tbh idek what the injury was. It was very private media didn’t touch on it. Maybe a NYK beat writer.
@@russianroulxtteThe next season he’d go on to have a more complete game and became a great defender on wings. Melo was 2nd to Kawhi Leonard in wing defense at one point that season. He became a much better passer and fans coined the term “Dad Melo”. 2015 was shaky but his 2016 season was his last great one.
he was never washed! his ppg wet down over time because he wasn't the number 1 option, but his efficiency stayed about the same the whole way! he was a bucket till the end!
This is actually really high-level analysis, please become a consistent youtuber.
injuries did play a part of i blame phil jackson. the only competent team the knicks had with melo was 11-12 after the trade and 12-13. once 14 came around all knicks fans were questioning what the hell are we doing. tyson chandler was a shell of himself and constantly hurt amare was done, was having anger problems, and also hurt and then they brought in andrea bargnani to a team with only one defender which was one legged chandler. melos injuries definitely slowed him down you see it with the weight gain from his first year in ny to his last. the team had no direction and aging stars. melo probably looked around in that 14 season and said fuck it i gotta do what i can. melo always caught a lot of hate for "not caring about winning but scoring 30" or that "he only plays for money" i watched melo every game on the knicks as a high schooler and literally watched him drag the knicks to wins going up against every big 3 when our big 3 was melo amare and chandler (jr smith clutch af too) melo did everything that he could in ny when management did their job. thanks for this video because this is one player that got a lot of hate while he played and just as much after retirement.
Honestly one of the best dives into a player I’ve ever seen
randomly got this recommended , great storytelling and editing bro you earned yourself a sub !
Respect the grind. Perceptive & creative content 💪🏻
Would love this type of video for his Thunder teammate Russell Westbrook (although maybe not so much as a 'when was he washed', rather a 'when was he not viable as a true playmaking hub anymore'). Been loving your output and going back through it all recently man, keep it up bro!
@@Thehillsfamily2009 yep I’d love a Westbrook video
Ngl Russ is tricky cuz i thought after 2019 he was finished as a star , he hardly dunked , yes he focused more on playmaking and passing and let PG takeover he only avg abt 20 and he jus didnt look like Russ much that year , but then he went to Houston put up 27 a game and looked as athletic as ever , went to washington struggled the 1st half of the year due to injuries , but closed the season out strong , then he went had a bad time in LA then got to the clippers and had a 30ppg playoff series vs suns , so hard to tell really when it happened
Subbed! We need to get more people to this channel!
Your channel is awesome glad I discovered it at 10:30 on a Friday night
Oh man these videos are dope! Looking forward to seeing what you do next.
I wanna see a Lebron video and what makes him so great even at his advanced age
You deserve way more followers what a great detailed video.
never expected an nba vid use pokemon background music. its nice though, don't get me wrong 👌👌
Melo’s “decline” and exit out of the league is sort of misleading and just a little tragic considering he’s one of the greatest scorers the league has ever seen.
I think washed insinuates there was a point that Melo couldn’t compete in the NBA and contribute and tbh I think he retired before that point entirely came. He fell out of his prime sure, but he really maintained a level of skill and play where he easily could’ve serviced a team longer than when he’d retired.
Unforunately I think his style of play (mid range mastery and iso ball) was becoming “outdated” with the hyper offense run and gun with small ball erupting in the league and whether true or not Melo had a public perception of not being entirely selfless or willing to change his style (to that end he REALLY tried being a spot up 3 guy for Houston but it became clear that just wasn’t his game as he’s a rhythm shooter not a camp out in the corner and wait his turn guy). So I think a lot of teams were just like not willing to take on a guy who they might’ve felt time was leaving behind despite his undoubted ability to still score (Portland showed that despite aging Melo could still come off anyone’s bench and get a bucket when you needed it or spark the offense, maybe not lead like he used too but he could get you points).
Really really good video man. Some of the best on youtube when it comes to informing us about ball. I learned a lot from this video, thank you.
Took a hit in 2015 then really leveled off after 2017, which is year 14/15. That's a very good career trajectory, but the lack of a chip and comparisons to Lebron will always hurt his legacy.
RUclips, please bless this man more views and subs. He's criminally underrated!
This is a next level presentation video. Your college teachers would be proud as hell man.
ngl I forgot melo was on the blazers before I watched this video
He had a lot of great moments there
He was never washed he just wasn't good enough to be the an all star and his game could never translate to being a role player as he was an awful defender and was an average catch and shoot shooter.
one of the best RUclips videos on the nba Ive ever seen
Good video!! I think you should make more " When did this player become washed" videos & make it a series, DeMarcus Cousins next?
for boogie it seems pretty straight forward he just had an acl injury but I might need to look into that further
@@russianroulxtte Also his peak was not nearly as good as most people think
Love your content, keep it up!
This is a great video man. Just earned your self a sub
The GOAT is back
I absolutely love your videos so far man these are so entertaining!
amazing video man. could you make the same video but russ?
Dude your channel's gonna get huge soon, these videos are fantastic.
Here before you become one of the biggest NBA RUclipsrs! Love the content
2017-2018 season is when he becane washed
2015
I always felt he was a bit overrated as a scorer.
Like he's no doubt a fantastic scorer, but people put him in conversations for one of the greatest scorers ever which is just absurd to me.
In my opinion, he isn't one of the top 10 scorers of this century. Or even if he is, he's in the bottom half of the top 10.
He's at most no.5 at least no.7 or 8
You can easily name 10 scorers better than Melo.
@@Christo_Trismegistuswho?
Underrated basketball RUclipsr.
About 1:31 in and ima say it was those last knicks seasons he had cool averages but they weren't winning shyt with the way he was playing
You can say this about his whole career.
Excellent video. Detailed, objective, informative. Personally enjoy content of this ilk🫡
Wake up babe new high quality nba RUclipsr just dropped
lol i see you with that music in the start
Such a high quality video.
Washed since entering leaugue, alot of points from ball hogging and volume shooting, useless for a teammate.
amazing video, breakdowns are so in depth, I’ve been wanting to get into the player profile analysis and scheme analysis to understand better when i watch film , are their any resources you recommend?
Not necessarily but there are a lot of sites you can use to actually access the film, I use thehighlow.io
One thing with melo I feel like he underachieved on getting a ring in his prime. I wish he would have teamed up somewhere else instead of going to the Knicks & later in his career retire with the Knicks. I know lala was a main reason of the move because she wanted to further her career in acting and other things, oh yeah the money as well.
I love the video game aesthetic…
Stopped watching at 7:17 cuz u told me too. Thanks for the answer. Great vid!
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Great video. Put into words what I have been trying to explain about Melos game. Every now and then I see a highlight video of him with casual NBA fans arguing he could “still be the guy” or that he was “blackballed from the league”.
No. I wish I could link this video to everyone who says otherwise
I came for the basketball stayed for the pokemon ost. Great vidd
Wen Melo went to the rockets I know he had to retire Greatness 3 level scorer to ever played but I wish he woulda got a ring fs n final MVP no lie he almost establish player hall of famer in my books
Bro 🤌🏿 Wrd to my motha if you saw that Knicks vs Hawks 13:46 you know how GREAT MELO IS old ass man CAN SHOOT AND BANG AND FADE AND REBOUND ❤ MY GOAT
Good video I love carjellomello
Can we get a breakdown on Issac Okoro 3P shooting leap
Do it yourself
His style of play was also becoming obsolete so it accelerated his decline
Amazingly done video my friend
Long story short as his scoring ability got worse with age his iq stayed the same fr
Great video I think you should do one like this on Dwyane Wade because I was just wondering when & how he fell off so fast
Just like melo knee injuries got him
@@russianroulxtte yea but when. I feel like it happened & nobody noticed
Fantastic video
Here's a hot take, who will have had a better career, Jrue Holiday or Carmelo Anthony?
MAYBE HE WAS ALWAYS WASHCUZ OF DEFENSE
BE GREAT AT OFFENSE❤
Year 14 the team did look good to start i truly believe that team fell apart because of phill jackson
It would’ve been great if he was a better rebounder
He should’ve never left the Knicks. He tossed his keys away. Soon as he left. Now u on another man’s team and they can do whatever they want with ya. He became relegated to the 4th option. Adams was getting more touches in OKC. And this goes for guys like Russ Dame Harden. They sign those super maxes then force their way out n it never works. Once u got the keys. Keep em!
Great video
Great vid. For me it was 2016 when he just looked like a shell of himself. Truthfully, I couldn’t believe we were able to trade.
But, I thought he would be to OKC what Ray Allen was to The Celtics (different games of course). Because when Ray got to Boston he was no longer a franchise player, but rather a really good offensive threat that played off of players rather than having an offense run through them.
The year after linsanity
Three letters: O K C
Once your efficiency drops, you’re washed
Carmelo refused to adjust any part of his game once he lost his athleticism. He could've EASILY been a chris Bosh or Shane Battier type player if he gave a damn about defense or playing off the the ball.
But his game never adjusted, like Westbrook, & he was washed as soon as his prime was over.
Gerudo Valley ❤
I can give you the exact date he was washed: May 29, 1984!
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Bet you you’re favorite player had a nightmare the night before playing Melo
@@PeopleAreCrazy-v2i He was a gunny bunny. Anybody would have nightmares guarding someone who shot the ball so much!
@@PeopleAreCrazy-v2i Yeah, I hear coaches had nightmares too. He was a notorious coach killer.
Melo was a 3 for 90% of his career
Your gonna be great dude
Do one for dwade
summer = saved
Portland used him better imo
great vid
Honestly melo never was washed he was disrespected
I say washed in 2015/2016.
In the right system even in his last prime years he could've still been hella productive. But he kept going to places where he needed to be more than what he could realistically be so it never worked out (along with other things, I'm not putting it all on him).
Melo could've and should've still been a prime contender at least until 2018, and then a vet guy for a few years then retired around the same time he did.
But we all know melo chased the bag, and when doing that you lose building a foundation in the league for your later years.. Your decline is more magnified, and next thing you know you're just out of the league one year.
Never washed
Pokémon diamond and pearl music??
yeah lol
edit: there's some gen 5 and gen 2 actually but I don't think I put any gen 4 now that im thinking about it
You should use even more Pokémon music it's sounds good
Time Decay was invented 😔
one number impact metrics are always the final gatekeeper.
You should do when Michael become not great. How last years on. Bulls and wizards
MJ won MVP and finals MVP his last year with the Bulls, lmfao. Go back to the drawing board.
@@LaidBack-- like someone cares about your opinion WE DONT BITCH 😂
can you do more draft content of the next drafts and of those propects, who becomes the next nba stars?
im not rlly a draft guy but there are plenty of great draft channels on this site
Man those thunder clips was so painful and cringe to watch. Like damn he ain’t so melo no more.
Sad Scenes
i love how you scripted this video telling us that we can click off the video bc you technically already figured out when he got washed but still having fair points to make that maybe he wasn't washed making us stay to the end but at the end you didn't really change your answer besides saying your preferred year while still giving us a option to choose when we think he fell off based upon his athletic decline Basically good video bro
i’m tuned in
thank you sir
I wish Carmelo would have got drafted by Detroit and gotten a ring his rookie year. He would've been way more of an all around player if he would have been defeated by Detroit but by going to Denver he was always forced into a number one Batman position when he was better off suited as being Robin.
Every NBA MVP has been inducted into the Naismith Hall of Fame. Will Derrick Rose make it?
Probably not
MVP, couple all-star selections and a ROY sounds worthy to me. There's been worse players in the HOF.
@@sined9819 Facts! Plus, he is the youngest MVP in NBA history.
He was supposed to be the next Kobe but he fell off
Lol idk about that
At his peak it was 5 drives per game. Thats weak considering how much he had the ball
Pace was a lot slower back then, KD was only around like 7
@russianroulxtte not suprised about kd... how about iverson, jordan, kobe...
@@JosephTurner-ok6br different playstyles
I believe the Phil Jackson BS and his troubles with his wife affecting him more than anything. Obviously injuries as well.
But mentally i believe trying to deal with his failed marriage and the way the Knicks handled shit was big as well. Dude gave his soul to NY and Phil just sort of... Shitted on all that.
Never 💀
where do you get footage from
thehighlow.io
@@russianroulxtte how do you not have the mark that says NBA advanced stats
@@dsantrix5154 I just cropped it out
@@russianroulxtte you making me feel retarted
@@russianroulxtte happy to see the grow of your channel your pretty entertaining do you plan on going the route of analyzing players or going more in depth in the mechanics of the game
Mello only cared about getting his numbers. That's all.
thunder legend
can you do more draft content of the next drafts and of those propects, who becomes the next nba stars?
@@joshuabile4657 i will keep doing that