I had an amazing experience to meet Mr Rafferty and go down into the basement in Manhattan where he was cutting this movie together. We smoked hand rolled cigarettes and marvelled over his Steinbeck editing station. He showed me and my class the raw cuts from Mr Jones and the rest of the players. I will NEVER forget how amazing and curmudgeonly welcoming Mr Rafferty was. RIP x
I would have liked to have met him. His grandfather was the captain in 1903 and my first cousin three times removed was a sophomore and was the captain in '05.
Tremendous documentary. The unscripted nature of sports is wondrous. Listening to Don Gillis' play-by-play I was also struck by how less is more. Unlike today's typical football broadcast -- with every moment endlessly dissected and verbally assaulted -- Gilllis' crisp, clean commentary carries the day. The pictures, the plays, the score, the time. That and a nice, rhythmic call were the only things necessary. Mission accomplished.
Great work on this documentary! As a college football fan, I see both teams as a credit to college football. It was a hard fought game. A game for the ages.
one of the best sports documentaries .............. ever .....saw brian dowling play high school ball for st. ignatius HS in cleveland ....... in the 1963 and 1964 cleveland city championship football games , played at old municipal stadium in front of 38,000 and 41,000 fans............... boith games , vs benedictine HS .....benny won in 63 ....iggy got even big time in 64
What a great game. I watched this video with much joy and a smile on my face. I wasn't pulling for either team, but I witnessed two great groups of men both playing and recollecting a wonderful event. An excellent documentary.
I’ve watched this on more than one occasion and recommend it often, these guys are so real, humble class act guys and during an iconic time. The announcer doing the game broadcast was outstanding. What more can one say. Hang in to your hats boys and girls
I watched it years ago and loved it and just watched it again now that I am four decades removed from my "Bright College Years" [not spent in New Haven, or anywhere in the Ivy League]. I know that Kevin Rafferty has died and it's likely some of the participants have. Kevin's mother and Barbara Pierce Bush were sisters, if you didn't know.
A piece of lovely Americana crafted from the memories of a tumultuous period. That said, pretty sad that Calvin Hill did not appear - he was quite conspicuous by his absence.
I only watched the last 10 game minutes of 4th QTR, but Calvin Hill played. Now other than 1 incomplete long pass to him in end zone, Hill never touched the ball in plays I saw. He kept lining up in a WR position. I'll have to either watch whole game or see if I can find an official box score to see Calvin's rushing/receiving stats
I watched, along with many others, at the New Haven Arena, on Closed Circuit TV. The game was not on regular TV and tickets for the game itself were being scalped for big money.
And, just a decade later the NCAA demoted HARVARD AND YALE and the IVY LEAGUE schools to non-major college football status. No longer do you see star quality players like Calvin Hill at either one of the two schools in this presentation. There will still be good or average NFL players coming from both schools in very low numbers, if there are any each particular season, but it will never be like the pre-DIVISION 1-AA/NOW= FCS days. Ryan Fitzpatrick from HARVARD may be the last even decent pro qback to come out of an IVY LEAGUE school. Any way you slice it, this was a very well done documentary of that tie that wasn't emotionally really.. a tiegame. Meanwhile, the play-by-play guy sounded like a poor man's RAY SCOTT, and the listener could tell that influence from the then- CBS number one ftball mic. man was strong with the IVY announcer, very strong. Personally, I remember, ABC's SUNDAY MORNING College Football highlights show narrated/v.o. by BILL FLEMING, featuring this game. All the way down in Texas, that was my intro to how big of a rivalry this really was and to be aware of FRANK CHAMPI. I loved that last name. It sounded like the name of a legendary athlete, lol. Speaking of TEXAS, of course, MR. T. L. JONES was born in San Saba near the GEOGRAPHICAL CENTER OF TEX., and grew up over 200 miles away from his birthplace, in MIDLAND in the PERMIAN BASIN of WEST TEX. I was growing up in the HOUSTON area, even though I wasn't born in TEX., and only learned later on that TOMMY LEE J. was from the LONE STAR STATE, although, his accent was very WESTEX. I never experienced the latter though, until I lived later in my broadcasting career in WEST TEXAS, first in the BIG COUNTRY, and after that in the MIDLAND/ODESSA metro. All of that info. aside, this was a fantastic doc.. It wasn't just about the game. It was about the people who played in it and more importantly who and WHAT they were/are...as people even moreso than they were as athletes. Wunderbar! VERY WELL DONE.
What a great documentary! Really well put together and edited- it's one of those films that even though you already know the outcome, still holds the excitement! But FK! I hate the constant grammarly and aramco ads! I swear to avoid them both!
This is an object lesson in arrogance. Yale lost/tied because they failed to see the obvious reality developing in front of them. They just assumed they would win.
Amazing that one common thread of nearly all games like this.......turnovers. You cannot win big games and make so many poor turnovers/mistakes. Makes no difference if Algore or W are student fans, or Deion Sanders is coaching. You cannot make mistakes in big games. Also, this was a little less than a year removed from the Packers great drive to beat Dallas in the 4th quarter of the Ice Bowl.
Absolutely. I can attest. I'm an OU Sooner Alum. I was Sophomore at Cotton Bowl for 1984 OU Texas game. It was #1 vs #2 game. OU led 15-12. Texas' ball in closing seconds, OU Defensive Back intercepted pass in end zone and was 2 yards in bounds. Ref somehow ruled him out of bounds and UT tied it 15-15 on last play FG. To this day, OU fans are bitter. That game has always emotionally felt like a loss.
That DPI on the 2 pt was awful. Zebra right in front of the play called nothing...the back judge calls what he assumed happened, because he couldnt see the db make first contact.
@@humanbeing2420 Yes. That's what I saw. That's a common call in today's college and NFL; DB using other arm not playing the ball to turn player somewhere between hip and shoulder area
He probably had other commitments. He was (maybe still is) kind of a big deal. From his Wikipedia entry: "Hill currently sits on the boards of several organizations, works as a corporate motivational speaker, and works for the Dallas Cowboys organization as a consultant who specializes in working with troubled players. Additionally, Hill is a consultant to the Cleveland Browns Football Club and Alexander & Associates, Inc., a Washington, D.C. corporate consulting firm. ...... Hill has written several articles on sports and academia for national publications, makes appearances at university campuses and business firms, throughout the United States. He addresses several topics including the problem of drugs and alcohol and the work needed in this area, and the important relationship of sports and academia."
Possible. Some players on losing end of a historically big game with a dramatic ending, never like to talk about it on camera. A good example is 1983 NC State vs Houston championship game. I've never seen the great Clyde Drexler in game documentaries.
Skull and Bones is a senior society. By the end of junior year, most young men are weary of their fraternity so senior societies are a great idea. Traditionally, S&B always tapped the junior who would be the football captain that fall. Bonesmen aren't required to be involved in politics or interested in politics.
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I had an amazing experience to meet Mr Rafferty and go down into the basement in Manhattan where he was cutting this movie together. We smoked hand rolled cigarettes and marvelled over his Steinbeck editing station. He showed me and my class the raw cuts from Mr Jones and the rest of the players. I will NEVER forget how amazing and curmudgeonly welcoming Mr Rafferty was. RIP x
I would have liked to have met him.
His grandfather was the captain in 1903 and my first cousin three times removed was a sophomore and was the captain in '05.
Tremendous documentary. The unscripted nature of sports is wondrous. Listening to Don Gillis' play-by-play I was also struck by how less is more. Unlike today's typical football broadcast -- with every moment endlessly dissected and verbally assaulted -- Gilllis' crisp, clean commentary carries the day. The pictures, the plays, the score, the time. That and a nice, rhythmic call were the only things necessary. Mission accomplished.
Great work on this documentary! As a college football fan, I see both teams as a credit to college football. It was a hard fought game. A game for the ages.
one of the best sports documentaries .............. ever .....saw brian dowling play high school ball for st. ignatius HS in cleveland ....... in the 1963 and 1964 cleveland city championship football games , played at old municipal stadium in front of 38,000 and 41,000 fans............... boith games , vs benedictine HS .....benny won in 63 ....iggy got even big time in 64
What a great game. I watched this video with much joy and a smile on my face. I wasn't pulling for either team, but I witnessed two great groups of men both playing and recollecting a wonderful event. An excellent documentary.
57:05 So Bouscaren didn't even touch him (Hornblower).
1:17:00 "I just reached around and knocked the ball down (and with my other hand I threw him to the ground)." Anyway, that was a good call.
I’ve watched this on more than one occasion and recommend it often, these guys are so real, humble class act guys and during an iconic time. The announcer doing the game broadcast was outstanding. What more can one say. Hang in to your hats boys and girls
I watched it years ago and loved it and just watched it again now that I am four decades removed from my "Bright College Years" [not spent in New Haven, or anywhere in the Ivy League].
I know that Kevin Rafferty has died and it's likely some of the participants have.
Kevin's mother and Barbara Pierce Bush were sisters, if you didn't know.
On of my high school coaches was on harvard during this game
That's a pretty ballsy call running a draw play on 3rd and 10 with under :30 to go in the game!
I really enjoy it every time I watch it. Such a classic game.
A piece of lovely Americana crafted from the memories of a tumultuous period. That said, pretty sad that Calvin Hill did not appear - he was quite conspicuous by his absence.
I only watched the last 10 game minutes of 4th QTR, but Calvin Hill played.
Now other than 1 incomplete long pass to him in end zone, Hill never touched the ball in plays I saw. He kept lining up in a WR position. I'll have to either watch whole game or see if I can find an official box score to see Calvin's rushing/receiving stats
@@kevinburke8464 He played but refused to be interviewed for the movie.
Nixon wasn't yet in the White House,not until Jan.20,1969.
This game may have been more remembered had the Jets not won Superbowl III.
The sportscaster "don Gillis" was a real pro.
Shades of Ray Scott.
Great documentary. Have watched it a dozen times.
I watched, along with many others, at the New Haven Arena, on Closed Circuit TV. The game was not on regular TV and tickets for the game itself were being scalped for big money.
Famous ad read "any two. Any price. "
An entertaining game indeed. The body language of the Yale team, as Harvard got them in a twist, is epic.
And, just a decade later the NCAA demoted HARVARD AND YALE and the IVY LEAGUE schools to non-major college football status.
No longer do you see star quality players like Calvin Hill at either one of the two schools in this presentation.
There will still be good or average NFL players coming from both schools in very low numbers, if there are any each particular season, but it will never be like the pre-DIVISION 1-AA/NOW= FCS days.
Ryan Fitzpatrick from HARVARD may be the last even decent pro qback to come out of an IVY LEAGUE school.
Any way you slice it, this was a very well done documentary of that tie that wasn't emotionally really.. a tiegame.
Meanwhile, the play-by-play guy sounded like a poor man's RAY SCOTT, and the listener could tell that influence from the then- CBS number one ftball mic. man was strong with the IVY announcer, very strong.
Personally, I remember, ABC's SUNDAY MORNING College Football highlights show narrated/v.o. by BILL FLEMING, featuring this game. All the way down in Texas, that was my intro to how big of a rivalry this really was and to be aware of FRANK CHAMPI. I loved that last name. It sounded like the name of a legendary athlete, lol.
Speaking of TEXAS, of course, MR. T. L. JONES was born in San Saba near the GEOGRAPHICAL CENTER OF TEX., and grew up over 200 miles away from his birthplace, in MIDLAND in the PERMIAN BASIN of WEST TEX.
I was growing up in the HOUSTON area, even though I wasn't born in TEX., and only learned later on that TOMMY LEE J. was from the LONE STAR STATE, although, his accent was very WESTEX. I never experienced the latter though, until I lived later in my broadcasting career in WEST TEXAS, first in the BIG COUNTRY, and after that in the MIDLAND/ODESSA metro.
All of that info. aside, this was a fantastic doc..
It wasn't just about the game.
It was about the people who played in it and more importantly who and WHAT they were/are...as people even moreso than they were as athletes.
Wunderbar!
VERY WELL DONE.
Yes and there was so much going on. You can tell tommy Lee jones is shellshocked talking about living in that time
I think he's just a drama queen.
@@humanbeing2420You beat me to it.
What a great documentary! Really well put together and edited- it's one of those films that even though you already know the outcome, still holds the excitement! But FK! I hate the constant grammarly and aramco ads! I swear to avoid them both!
This is an object lesson in arrogance. Yale lost/tied because they failed to see the obvious reality developing in front of them. They just assumed they would win.
Amazing that one common thread of nearly all games like this.......turnovers. You cannot win big games and make so many poor turnovers/mistakes. Makes no difference if Algore or W are student fans, or Deion Sanders is coaching. You cannot make mistakes in big games.
Also, this was a little less than a year removed from the Packers great drive to beat Dallas in the 4th quarter of the Ice Bowl.
Lol number 27 on Yale, fumbled punt any two major penalties, one could say he lost the game all by himself
East Coast elites summing it up why football is great. Thanks gentlemen great documentary
It was a tie game, but Harvard took it as a win
Emotionally..it was..
Absolutely. I can attest. I'm an OU Sooner Alum. I was Sophomore at Cotton Bowl for 1984 OU Texas game. It was #1 vs #2 game.
OU led 15-12. Texas' ball in closing seconds, OU Defensive Back intercepted pass in end zone and was 2 yards in bounds. Ref somehow ruled him out of bounds and UT tied it 15-15 on last play FG.
To this day, OU fans are bitter. That game has always emotionally felt like a loss.
Tommy Lee Jones ……..OH NO ,it’s Mister Laughs !!!
If he smiled, his face would crack.
For me, he is the comic relief.
Rafferty knew how to enable him to make an ass of himself.
This was the same day Houston beat Tulsa 100-6.
Wow, I vaguely remembered that score. That might make for an interesting story also.
@@johnperrigo6474 No one has video of it so far. Very few VCR's back then so getting the footage will be like pulling teeth to get it.
I was feeling sorry for Bouscarre til seeing how dirty he played
Holy Moly! Great game, great movie!
STEELERS MAKE IT TOUGH by APOLOGETIX a great football song
That DPI on the 2 pt was awful. Zebra right in front of the play called nothing...the back judge calls what he assumed happened, because he couldnt see the db make first contact.
Seems to me Waldman had his right hand on the receiver's hip and pulled him away from the ball. It was a close call but not an unreasonable one.
@@humanbeing2420 correct
@@humanbeing2420 Yes. That's what I saw. That's a common call in today's college and NFL; DB using other arm not playing the ball to turn player somewhere between hip and shoulder area
How does Harvard beat Yale if the score is tied?
I'll bet Calvin Hill refused to be interviewed because he blew the game with 2 fumbles.
He probably had other commitments. He was (maybe still is) kind of a big deal.
From his Wikipedia entry:
"Hill currently sits on the boards of several organizations, works as a corporate motivational speaker, and works for the Dallas Cowboys organization as a consultant who specializes in working with troubled players. Additionally, Hill is a consultant to the Cleveland Browns Football Club and Alexander & Associates, Inc., a Washington, D.C. corporate consulting firm. ...... Hill has written several articles on sports and academia for national publications, makes appearances at university campuses and business firms, throughout the United States. He addresses several topics including the problem of drugs and alcohol and the work needed in this area, and the important relationship of sports and academia."
@@humanbeing2420"Big deal." Oh please. So what? As if sitting on a board means anything. And in his case it's complete window-dressing.
Possible. Some players on losing end of a historically big game with a dramatic ending, never like to talk about it on camera. A good example is 1983 NC State vs Houston championship game. I've never seen the great Clyde Drexler in game documentaries.
goldsmith is pretty hard on himself. #25 threw an excellent block on him on the first 2 pt conversion.
Tommy Lee Jones seems like an odd duck.
He had to live with Al Gore. That would screw anyone up.
@@brianjacob8728 LOL
No offense, but Yale's LB, Mike Bouscaren, was really some kind of nut case. 🤪
Jeez, he comes off as some kind of sociopath.
Would've made a good Oakland Raiders' draft choice though . . .
28:52 - this guy looks familiar...
Yep Tommy Lee jones the actor was number 61 as an offensive guard
Walked right thru the picked line 👍love that
perhaps, but viet nam was an immoral and unnecessary war. the protestors were correct.
Harvard's coach may not have been all that, but he was basically right. This was all about Harvard executing. Champi got his 15 minutes of fame.
genltemen you are about to havard vs yale
The quote was, "gentleman, you are about to play football for Yale against Harvard. Never in your life will you do something so important".
I wish they would of had over time play back then
36:52 🦃 😄
I notice the male cheerleaders.
President Bush had been one, but was in the Class of 1968.
btw brian dowling is skull and bones. for him to say he;s "apolitical" is laughable.
Skull and Bones is a senior society.
By the end of junior year, most young men are weary of their fraternity so senior societies are a great idea.
Traditionally, S&B always tapped the junior who would be the football captain that fall.
Bonesmen aren't required to be involved in politics or interested in politics.