Here's a tip Araki didn't wake up one day great at worldbuilding it took him time and effort to get this good setting your bar this high pre experience is asking to fail people like him are what to aim for not be right away
@@bashamd96 Very true! A good example is how he moved away from Hamon to Stands. It took Araki a while to be certain of what kind of power-scaling system he wanted and to figure out the specifics of Stands (though, like all artists/people, he wasn't perfect which is where some of the"Araki forgot" memes come from). My suggestion is to look up other world-building techniques from other artists to draw inspiration from, and to be curious about the world around you. Araki was originally inspired by a lot of '80s action movies and Fist of the North Star while creating Phantom Blood, so any inspiration could help. ^^
Also DIO's Heaven philosophy is literally his conversation with Polnareff in Part 3: the idea that people desire peace of mind. All beings knowing their fate and being unable to change it would, to DIO and Pucci, bring a solace to humanity that all people would be free of the fear of the unknown and the uncertainty of their lives.
manga artists dont get the credit they deserve. jojos came from ONE GUY. the story, the world, the characters, everything. all in ONE GUYS head. it’s incredible. people like araki, oda, and miura (rip) are all true creative geniuses.
I feel a lot of SBR worldbuilding gets overlooked by the fandom at large, the fact that there were more saint corpses (albeit of lesser power); a handful of countries were aware of their existence and actively tried to control them; "becoming a saint" is a real thing and there is people who know the exact conditions to do it. If Araki wanted, he could write an alternate history of the world influenced by the existence of holy powers.
Bro literally went from Hamon to Stands that alone shows how much Araki evolved in his power dynamic and sytem in which he was willing to change everything along with Artstyle and even character designs, getting more characters and giving the world a more grand feeling
@@Gomank it didn't just happen, it was a conscious decision to replace hamon and vampirism with stands and leave only one vampire in the story, to show how much more important the theme of humanity is in the story. It was never about "power", it's just tools.
I think Hamon and Stands are related somehow, like that the stands were created to rival hamon as the humans could have viewed it as the power of the gods. I could be wrong but this would make the most sense to me
@@linkfiedproductions2246and then there’s the spin bro made like three or four different power systems and put them all in the same verse I don’t know anyone else who does that
One of my favorite pieces of worldbuilding that Araki establishes is Rikiel and the air rods. Air rods as a cryptid are so niche and for Araki to include them into a stand battle was a real treat to see being someone who had prior knowledge of what Air Rods are in cryptid mythos.
Hell yeah, I was so happy when I read SO ten years ago and saw my favorite cryptids were canon lol I imagine he was introduced to the idea during his time in America researching for part 6. It would have been the mid to late 90s at that point and I know cryptozoology and the supernatural were very popular for tv shows at that time
I don't think that Dio's charisma was due to the Stone Mask. I think that it's part of his character development. Between the shock of seeing Jonathan actually dying and being trapped at the bottom of the ocean for over a century, he went from an omnicidal vampire who wanted to turn everyone into his zombie thralls; to a charismatic leader who wanted to govern the world from the shadows, and who has accumulated a group of genuinely loyal followers. Also, I think that Jonathan's body influenced Dio's personality a bit. I mean, we all saw how Dio became very ecstatic and bombastic after taking _Joseph's_ blood.
I think what’s significant so far about Mechanisms, given the context presented in this video, is it shows Jodio wants to understand how the universe works, gravity, fortune, calamity. Almost like Dio did in the original universe, Dio saw the mechanisms at work and now JoDIO takes up that charge
yeah, a perculiar difference between the first and the second universe is the lack of dio in the second one. obviously, there is diego, but he doesn't hold the spot of dio in the overall story in the slightest. There is no one character, no one image I can see that unites all the ideas, all the other characters' arcs, all the plot developments in the second universe as much as dio does in the first. And I think it's great, because of it we can have very clever parallels made in different ways that help you associate new ideas with old ones but also let new ones be free and develop freely. My gut tells me there is going to be some great unificating factor between parts 7-9 in part 9, that probably won't be a person but something else, and it's going to feel amazing. It will have kinda similar role and effect as of the gravity idea in part 6, but still different. In part 8, Araki already did something unique like that - the main villain, that isn't really a character villain, and isn't even a villainous idea represented through a character, but a character being literal embodiment of an idea, and the distinctions blur more and more and it just gets my brain tingling so much.
Araki by not elaborating some of his points and establishments he makes, makes use of one of the best elements of fiction itself: the curiosity of the viewer. What your imagination can produce no mangaka could even think of in 1000 years
thats a contentious thing, one mangaka can be praised for it, while another one would be called a bad story teller for it or someone who has inconsistencies in writing
@@eleanorrigby41 the mangaka could have give enough information, but double standards would still exist since this is the animanga community we are talking about
That's kind of a cop out. When your imagination is better than the story you're consuming, the story will always disappoint you. That's how you get on-going stories that people are crazy about but as soon as they wrap up, people lose interest and call them mid or trash. Once it's all over, there's too little room for theorize and headcanons, and people realize the story own it's own just isn't very interesting or good sometimes.
As much as I would apreciate the world building, you got to praise the character background. I am not talking about character writing, but the writer notes about them. He creates character sheets that includes their favorite food, color, and hobbies, things that influences the characters that won't be brought up in the story telling.
Furthermore, Dio was first an abused child before he was a megalomaniac. He probably wanted peace of mind in general, but he also wanted power and control as well. Wanting peace of mind is probably a thing he wanted since the very beginning.
exactly, he was never being crazy when not in the presence of his enemies and shit (at least part 3 onwards), he's always lowkey with enya, hol horse and pucci
I think Hamon Beat has a great video about this, DIO’s goal was more about having everyone know he was superior and there was nothing they can do about it, Pucci’s interpretation was that if everyone could see their fate they could ultimately evolve and become happy knowing their fate, while DIO wanted everyone to realize he was better than them and there was nothing they could do even if they could see their fate
14:00 why is it a retcon though? It’s not. The DIO in part 3 was always very much intellectual up until he realized that Jotaro has the potential to defeat him which kind of messed him up.
Great video. One thing I want to point out is that DIO isn't retconned in Part 6 compared to how he is written in Part 3. His characterization is very consistent between the two parts so long as you look at anything DIO did in Part 3 before fighting team Joestar. DIO has always been calm and intelligent.
The fact that JoJo is technically playing in our real world, but is influenced by these supernatural powers is just so cool to me. Most other shonen or other animes play in their own world but seeing this crazy franchise in our world, Yet (for the most part) it works under our understanding of logic which gives us these big brain moments in fights is so damn amazing
I also like how most characters still have a "human body". Most shonen protagonists can tank bombs. But no matter how strong Star Platinum is, if Jotaro slips from a flight of stairs and lands on his head he could die.
It's the same reason Jujutsu Kaisen feels so fun to read / watch. It's set in our world as some kind of alternate history ttpe thing. They use tech that should be present in the era and the characters are period accurate
The only criticism I have is that you said Dio's presentation in Part 6 is a retcon when if you actually pay attention to Dio's character you can easily tell that is not the case
@@alfalldoot6715 Just listen to what Dio says about Jonathan when he meets him as a head in the jar. (Before taking body of Jonathan) He said that "he admires Jonathan and their life and struggles were kinda predestined and if there was a god in their world then their destines would've been the most intricate ones". Its like a bit of foreshadowing or a commentary from the author himself about the story of his characters. And now this dialogue plays out to be a joke from their destiny itself haha.
Araki has essentially created a creation myth his universe, where stands and all of the supernatural powers throughout the parts are hints towards how the universe works
True, the spirits of part 4 (+ the jokai from TSRK) are in my opinion the most important worldbuilding part of DiU showing that exists different realms in the Jojo world and the afterlife exits
@@manupm9161 when has anyone in jojo ever had a hallucination, especially one that coincidentally lines up perfectly with what we later see in parts four and five regarding spirits and the afterlife
if anyone is interested in Jojo's world-building I highly recommend Araki's book "manga in theory and practice" he talks a lot about how he builds characters setting and theme's of story it's a very interesting read.
Literal translation of Hamon is Ripple. And that's a very descriptive name. Hamon is vibrations, or waves. Hamon doesn't kill vampires by itself, you need to make it simulate ultraviolet waves. Every other use of Hamon, including the more strange examples, are actually some variation of vibrations or waves. I wish translations had kept calling it Ripple, because that name alone does a lot to explain what it actually is, or at least figure it out.
13:29 I think that theme has kind of been going on starting from part 3 since Boingo and Tohth, since in the Boingo and Hol Horse episode Boingo keeps saying "if you follow what the book says then it'll work well but if you defy it then something bad will happen"
Jojo: everything is preordained, everything is already decided, everything has been set in stone and destined from the very beginning of the universe Araki: (a writer who writes on the spot)
tbh fate in part five, especially in rolling stones is shown to be changeable but only with determination, perseverance and sacrifices. at first it was meant for bucciarati to die alone, probably at the hands of diavolo when he was supposed to give trish to diavolo. the fact that mista by changing the stone, changed the fate probably meant that giorno will meet with bucciarati and give him another chance, which led to fate changing and finally defeating diavolo, but they had to sacrifice two additional live, but they didn't take any shortcuts, unlike diavolo who abused his ability to escape fate all the time.
cant believe you didnt talk about the ghosts or the literal god of muscle from rohans stories or the eastern luck directions that one stand in part 6 used or the cryptids that one stand in part 6 used jojos is fuckin nuts, man
Araki has said that he comes up with the story as he is drawing, he doesn't plan what is going to happen he just goes on with the plot. I think he is the master of improvisation, and why jojo feels so different to other mangas. Jojo has barely or any foreshadowing, and almost every part is a "soft-retcon" of other parts, but the changes he makes are super cool, and makes it so that the story always evolves and doesn't reach a stale point. There are moments in the story that feels that Araki took those decisions not because they made sense, but because that would be the "cooler" decision.
Many people don’t know this in the english community but “gravity” is not really what brings people together. Gravity would be 重力 (jūryoku) which they do actually say is necessary for achieving heaven. However DIO doesn’t actually ask pucci “do you believe in 重力?” He instead asks 君は引力を信じるか? He says 引力 (inryoku) which means “pulling power”! It can be interpreted as gravity also but it is different from 重力 (“heavy power”) so maybe attraction would be more fitting…
@@METAsMETAs oh boy… I might add then since this may blow up that I just tried to point out that it’s not the same word DIO uses for the gravity between people and the gravitational force that is used at C-moon and Jumpin’Jack flash (there it is also 重力 in fact 無重力/ mu jūryoku/no gravity). English doesn’t really have these nuances so that is why the translation says “gravity” to suggest that it is a similar force to the actual gravitational force. In my language (Hungarian) there is a word that can suggest for example gravitational pull but also other attraction aswell (the word is “vonzás”). I happened to translate the manga to one of my hungarian friends and that is why I noticed this. The way the two kanji is put together is the reason I said they mean “heavy power” and “pulling power” because those are the two characters.
Before starting the video I just hope you touch on the stuff in the SBRverse such as the Devils Palms, Saints, and most importantly, Rock Humans. The ideas in the setting of the SBRverse are some of my favorite world building ideas I've ever heard
I remember when the backstory of the rock humans were revealed in a later JoJolion chapter. That was insane. Along with how historical figures and past characters were used to reference how they lacked much physical differences from humans. But that was the tip of the iceberg compared to the other reveal: Rocks.
Something I find really endearing of part 8 is the plot of surviving calamity and going through it by hope. Considering that amidst the myriad of bizarre stands and things you also got natural disasters, death and characters going through dark times make this part feel so humane. I love it.
To be honest JoJo has a lot of nuances that fans often oversight, both storytelling, thematics, ideas, and some interpretation that went open Edit: Now I finished the video: I believe stands can be summed in the will of someone manifested by their psychic energy, JoJo has a supernatural but realistic world that works in a very artistic and philosophical/abstract way... I really like the ideas in JoJo because they're pretty much their own thing, Araki has stated about stands in a way that feels like our world is connected to stands, maybe there are stands in the world and they're perceived as being just really good at something and such, I really like how far the abstract nature goes honestly.
For me, the pillar men are so cool, because the way I see it, they’re essentially (in the world of Jojo) the origin of Aztec mythology. The myths the Aztecs wrote about gods and the like in that world was probably their understanding of what the pillarmen were.
I remember the first time I learned about Pucci's plan for the first time and was all confused. What is this guy on about? I thought he wanted to avenge his friend? Revive him? No? He just wants to relieve humans of anxiety by making them aware of their fate? Until it dawned on me that this is exactly what Dio spoke about with Polnareff on those stairs.
I have been thinking of how to expand on Hamon for a while now. And I have come up with multiple different branching forms of it. I feel like it deserved more expansion, so I have been writing to extend Araki's idea.
@@someguywithalowbudget1320 Well, given that the Hamon Tribe's teachings are as old as the Pillar Men, they must have some secrets techniques as well than just standard Hamon. I created two new types of Hamon: Dark Hamon and Hyper Hamon. They both require a ritual to be accessed from normal Hamon, but the rituals add immense power to the person doing said ritual.
Honestly, not enough credit goes to his genius And yes, it is genius Stands are one of the best power systems I’ve seen already, but even after that Araki expanded its work Really, it can all be traced back to Jojo’s underlining factor: Fate Fate has always been a concept of Joni even before stands, but Araki managed to relate stands to fate when first introduced But it didn’t stop there. If stands were the representation of one’s fighting spirit and psyche, of course it could lead to evolutions, or acts, if you will. That, plus the originator of stands being an arrow literally ingrained with fate, could lead to potential beyond just normal personality change, but more of a life change. The arrows either lead to that of release one’s true potential wether in the form of a requiem or what ever Bites the Dust was But then Araki, even after all that, in my opinion, perfected it. Part 6 lead to the true form of fate that was either foreshadowed or brilliantly mold into being a constant of the universe. All of his previously built rules and revelations all leading to DIO’s plan to Heaven and the nature of fate itself leading to the peak of the original universe’s level of power. The Heaven plan is one of the most perfectly crafted and genius plans for a story I’ve ever seen, from the subtle meaning’s being the phrases to it using all of the existing elements I listed previously and didn’t about stands and fate, using fate itself to lead to a realm beyond our own. The thing is a Heaven stand is much more than just an upgrade: in truth, from what we’ve seen of Made in Heaven, it’s literally untouchable, normally, due to it actually having fate manipulation due to being actually outside of the universe, only connected to what ever it comes in contact with. All. Of. It. Is. Incredibly. Genius. If it was all planned (which it likely wasn’t) I’d say that is one of the most held out plans for a storyline I’ve seen If it wasn’t, it’s the most brilliant form of not entirely adding but rather molding pre existing factors and related ideas together to leading one of the greatest, if not the greatest, forms of story and power systems I’ve ever been blessed to look at. I’ve actually had all of this in mind for about two weeks and wanted to say something but could never find the right subject to put it in
I could actually keep going on and on about this because there was only so much I could put in a comment that would actually get people’s to read, and even then it’s still quite long. I do hope others read about it, or at a least, no, just as much as I hope for the former option, to talk about it. Araki really deserves the recognition of all of this because it really is the greatest story-aligned power system I’ve seen. If you have questions on what I think, or what ever you guys think, feel free to express. The more intellectual conversation the better.
After resting the universe, MIH is literally untouchable unless given the opportunity similar to Emporio’s Hanson haedcanonly could be seen as the Soin but breathing, using people who are built near perfectly like the golden ratio perfecting nature Depending on on what level of logic we are talking about, WOU could very well be 10-11 dimensional Pillar men are probably like rock people, being silicon based life forms instead of carbon based, and Kars, Wammu, Esiedecie and Santanna the vampire equivalents to them Stand users are the only one who can see normal stands probably because they give off a different frequency of light Stands, despite seemingly breaking laws of physics, is plausible either in physics or pure spirit energy
Tbh I don't understand why people shit on part 6 this much. I was super invested in all of these cool themes. Just seeing Dio again with this insane plan and Pucci as a whole was a huge vibe.
One of my favorite smaller bits of world building is that Stands and Hamon are actually connected; Stands, like Hamon, are often stated to come from life energy, and Stands were sometimes referred to in Part 3 as "Juhamon," or "Ghost Ripple." Hamon as a power system never really disappeared, it just evolved into a whole new form.
The gravity concept reminds me of of a concept I made where souls in my story split off and reincarnate into multiple people. All ancient religions are canon to existents as all these god type beings had their souls reincarnate all over the world. Your soul descending from a certain figure can tie your fate in certain ways like you may be bound to have a similar life story to certain figures, you may make enemies with people descending from the souls of your of your oversoul's enemy, and so-on. I feel like I have some genius ideas. I just I was talented in any meaningful way.
Stand rules are so funny because almost all of them are broken at some point. There's stuff like "effective range", stands being intangible and sharing senses with the user, which rarely get brought up, like why did no one ever use their stand to look through walls and stuff? Some of the rules that just get ignored are "one ability only", despite stands like Tower of Gray just having no ability at all and stands like Highway star having the most random 2 abilities in generating a desired room and sucking nutrients at 80 km/h. Obvioulsy "one stand per user" gets wrecked by Pucci, but there's also the 11 men and the boom boom family who somehow have the same stand?
The two rats had the same stand, but that is because the rats wanted food. Then again, as assassins from the same family, they would all have magnetism powers by Tomb of the Boom, and the eleven men also being synchronized assassins would probably have Tatoo You!
I like to think that the Stands were created to “rival the power of the gods” was supposed to be about the pillar men and hamon users. It would connect all of the past things neatly into humanities response to Hamon and Pillar Men
didn't even mention the spin, great video nonetheless and definitely a good video to kickstart the discussion on araki's insane and incredible worldbuilding work
What I take away from the worldbuilding of Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure as well as the main theme of the series being a “celebration of humanity” is that the Joestars are the biggest personification of the Indomitable Human Spirit.
its actually not even a joke. Jesus was a stand user, making it reasonable that the miracles he has done was a stand power. Meaning God is either a stand or an ultimate stand user, and Jesus has merely a fraction of God's power. Maybe his stand power was simply to carry out the will of God.
jojo is such a creative manga, with hamon it was kinda crazy but not to much. Then with stand we got so many creative power, fight and design from more basic like Star Platinum to simple power like Killer Queen used a creative power to complex power like Dragon Dream, Wonder of U ecc
10:15 I think it’s less that Kira got KQ and became attracted to Stand users bc he’s had it since he killed Remi, and KQ helped him hide all his murders. However bc Morioh became so dense with Stand Users he essentially couldn’t hide due to sheer luck
Jodio Joestar is going to culminate this lore with the idea of Free Will. The idea that Fate is actually something that can be changed when you understand the Mechanism underlaying these concepts.
Yo i have a feeling the last part of jojos gonna expand upon the concept of value to complete the story of jjba universe since so far (spoilers) the lava rock seems to be drawing in items that have great monetary value which can be translated to non-physical value (the logic of gravity = how two individuals inevitably draw to one another and fortune and misfortune = who will win to write history gives me that logic). I think this is a pretty natural end to it because it kinda completes the main idea on how the jjba universe wants to end itself. Gravity draws important individuals together, fortune and misfortue decides the individual's fate, those who messes with fate gets hit with endless calamities, calamities are fought with value and value becomes the key to solving the universe which the jojo villains prolly wasnt able to solve the universe bc they lack moral value or smth Im cooking with drugs rn :/
I would argue that nothing is retconned regarding how DIO is in part 6. In part 3, we only saw him with his subordinates. Pucci is someone DIO actually considered to be a friend, so it makes sense he would act very differently around him.
Ok there's a few things, but mainly: what do you mean Kira would have been a better killer if he didn't have a stand??? His stand was what allowed him to evade capture for so long cause it completely destroyed the bodies without leaving evidence.
Long story short getting a stand affected his ego leading to his downfall and stand rules fucked him over. He was better off without it in the long run
One thing that really made me think: "whoa that's a cool idea" is in part 4 (spoiler) when that mangaka character appears. Thats interesting, making fun of your own job in your manga.
You are so based for acknowledging the bleach world building, the fact that people just forget about the millions of years of history in the soul society, the quincies the soul king the royal families and their history, it's just a gold mine of world building that people just tend to gloss over
Worldbuilding in jojo makes me insecure about worldbuilding in my own writing
Here's a tip: when in doubt, giant robot space gods
Here's a tip Araki didn't wake up one day great at worldbuilding it took him time and effort to get this good setting your bar this high pre experience is asking to fail people like him are what to aim for not be right away
@@bashamd96 also probably cocaine
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Very true! A good example is how he moved away from Hamon to Stands. It took Araki a while to be certain of what kind of power-scaling system he wanted and to figure out the specifics of Stands (though, like all artists/people, he wasn't perfect which is where some of the"Araki forgot" memes come from).
My suggestion is to look up other world-building techniques from other artists to draw inspiration from, and to be curious about the world around you. Araki was originally inspired by a lot of '80s action movies and Fist of the North Star while creating Phantom Blood, so any inspiration could help. ^^
It’s ok. Don’t worry it’s ok if you may feel bad just remember, araki is like a very very experienced writer
'Retconned DIO into being an intellectual'
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Did you forget Dio was studying to become a LAWYER in Part 1?
Also DIO's Heaven philosophy is literally his conversation with Polnareff in Part 3: the idea that people desire peace of mind. All beings knowing their fate and being unable to change it would, to DIO and Pucci, bring a solace to humanity that all people would be free of the fear of the unknown and the uncertainty of their lives.
Lawyer...no wonder he's evil
@@ringo1018chicken or the egg, did studying to be a lawyer make him more evil, or did he study law because of how evil he was
@@Tom-vx7qhhe studied law because Dio was evil, to see what terrible things he can get away with most likely.
@@Tom-vx7qhWell, I mean he burnt a dog to death before studying law
manga artists dont get the credit they deserve. jojos came from ONE GUY. the story, the world, the characters, everything. all in ONE GUYS head. it’s incredible. people like araki, oda, and miura (rip) are all true creative geniuses.
I'm pretty sure there are people that help them too in their studio but ofc they're the creative geniuses
@@SLATTSLATT-pl9wt Yeah but Araki is the creator, he put the most effort and came up with a majority of concepts for it…
Araki came up with 90% of everything in the series and got help with other stuff @@SLATTSLATT-pl9wt
They get a lot of credit, literally millions of ride-or-die fans from across the world. IDK what you're on about.
Did you mean manga artist or manga creator? And why you said they dont get credit they deserve?
I feel a lot of SBR worldbuilding gets overlooked by the fandom at large, the fact that there were more saint corpses (albeit of lesser power); a handful of countries were aware of their existence and actively tried to control them; "becoming a saint" is a real thing and there is people who know the exact conditions to do it. If Araki wanted, he could write an alternate history of the world influenced by the existence of holy powers.
He already did this somewhat with Jojolion, touching on aspects of secret societies and religious control being a coverup for organized crime.
oh, don't you worry, fanparts exist and delve wayyy too much into these things hahahaha
Bro literally went from Hamon to Stands that alone shows how much Araki evolved in his power dynamic and sytem in which he was willing to change everything along with Artstyle and even character designs, getting more characters and giving the world a more grand feeling
i dont think there was any intent to change the "power dynamics", it was done purely for thematical and creative reasons
vampires wernt a threat anymore so there needed to be a new power system. hamon was kinda useless after part 2@@AmelpsXett
@@Gomank it didn't just happen, it was a conscious decision to replace hamon and vampirism with stands and leave only one vampire in the story, to show how much more important the theme of humanity is in the story.
It was never about "power", it's just tools.
I think Hamon and Stands are related somehow, like that the stands were created to rival hamon as the humans could have viewed it as the power of the gods. I could be wrong but this would make the most sense to me
@@linkfiedproductions2246and then there’s the spin bro made like three or four different power systems and put them all in the same verse I don’t know anyone else who does that
One of my favorite pieces of worldbuilding that Araki establishes is Rikiel and the air rods. Air rods as a cryptid are so niche and for Araki to include them into a stand battle was a real treat to see being someone who had prior knowledge of what Air Rods are in cryptid mythos.
Hell yeah, I was so happy when I read SO ten years ago and saw my favorite cryptids were canon lol
I imagine he was introduced to the idea during his time in America researching for part 6. It would have been the mid to late 90s at that point and I know cryptozoology and the supernatural were very popular for tv shows at that time
I don't think that Dio's charisma was due to the Stone Mask. I think that it's part of his character development. Between the shock of seeing Jonathan actually dying and being trapped at the bottom of the ocean for over a century, he went from an omnicidal vampire who wanted to turn everyone into his zombie thralls; to a charismatic leader who wanted to govern the world from the shadows, and who has accumulated a group of genuinely loyal followers.
Also, I think that Jonathan's body influenced Dio's personality a bit. I mean, we all saw how Dio became very ecstatic and bombastic after taking _Joseph's_ blood.
dio was definitely charismatic even before that, but it may have gotten to supernatural levels, you know how many vampires are
He got more gentle trait with jonathan body that why giorno born with that jojo blood
I think what’s significant so far about Mechanisms, given the context presented in this video, is it shows Jodio wants to understand how the universe works, gravity, fortune, calamity. Almost like Dio did in the original universe, Dio saw the mechanisms at work and now JoDIO takes up that charge
yeah, a perculiar difference between the first and the second universe is the lack of dio in the second one. obviously, there is diego, but he doesn't hold the spot of dio in the overall story in the slightest. There is no one character, no one image I can see that unites all the ideas, all the other characters' arcs, all the plot developments in the second universe as much as dio does in the first. And I think it's great, because of it we can have very clever parallels made in different ways that help you associate new ideas with old ones but also let new ones be free and develop freely. My gut tells me there is going to be some great unificating factor between parts 7-9 in part 9, that probably won't be a person but something else, and it's going to feel amazing. It will have kinda similar role and effect as of the gravity idea in part 6, but still different. In part 8, Araki already did something unique like that - the main villain, that isn't really a character villain, and isn't even a villainous idea represented through a character, but a character being literal embodiment of an idea, and the distinctions blur more and more and it just gets my brain tingling so much.
bro u understand what TRULY could be part 9.Mechanisms will even be better than part 8 philosphy. MAN ODA and ARAKI are MADMEN
Araki by not elaborating some of his points and establishments he makes, makes use of one of the best elements of fiction itself: the curiosity of the viewer. What your imagination can produce no mangaka could even think of in 1000 years
thats a contentious thing, one mangaka can be praised for it, while another one would be called a bad story teller for it or someone who has inconsistencies in writing
@@UNKNOWNL3G3ND obv you need to give the reader "enough" information about how the mechanism works. There's always a fine line.
@@eleanorrigby41 the mangaka could have give enough information, but double standards would still exist since this is the animanga community we are talking about
@@UNKNOWNL3G3NDif the original material is good by itself you can ignore or even justify its flaws
But you can't do that when the original is bad
That's kind of a cop out. When your imagination is better than the story you're consuming, the story will always disappoint you. That's how you get on-going stories that people are crazy about but as soon as they wrap up, people lose interest and call them mid or trash. Once it's all over, there's too little room for theorize and headcanons, and people realize the story own it's own just isn't very interesting or good sometimes.
One of my favorite things to see in the entire world is seeing an author/artist continue to develop an idea continuously over the span of many years
As much as I would apreciate the world building, you got to praise the character background. I am not talking about character writing, but the writer notes about them. He creates character sheets that includes their favorite food, color, and hobbies, things that influences the characters that won't be brought up in the story telling.
I don’t think DIO‘s personality in Part 6 is a retcon, he already had some interesting speeches about peace of mind in Part 3
Furthermore, Dio was first an abused child before he was a megalomaniac. He probably wanted peace of mind in general, but he also wanted power and control as well. Wanting peace of mind is probably a thing he wanted since the very beginning.
exactly, he was never being crazy when not in the presence of his enemies and shit (at least part 3 onwards), he's always lowkey with enya, hol horse and pucci
I think Hamon Beat has a great video about this, DIO’s goal was more about having everyone know he was superior and there was nothing they can do about it, Pucci’s interpretation was that if everyone could see their fate they could ultimately evolve and become happy knowing their fate, while DIO wanted everyone to realize he was better than them and there was nothing they could do even if they could see their fate
14:00 why is it a retcon though? It’s not. The DIO in part 3 was always very much intellectual up until he realized that Jotaro has the potential to defeat him which kind of messed him up.
"They're not prettyboys with superhero-like powers"
I mean.. I'd venture to say Dio's hot enough to qualify under at least half that statement.
he also has ice powers
@@saratoga6663 Zane u also have one
Great video. One thing I want to point out is that DIO isn't retconned in Part 6 compared to how he is written in Part 3. His characterization is very consistent between the two parts so long as you look at anything DIO did in Part 3 before fighting team Joestar. DIO has always been calm and intelligent.
yeah Dio during the fight was at first being scary, intimidating and a little bit cocky. Then he became literally high as fick
“I don’t know if Araki is insane or creative” both, he’s both
The fact that JoJo is technically playing in our real world, but is influenced by these supernatural powers is just so cool to me.
Most other shonen or other animes play in their own world but seeing this crazy franchise in our world, Yet (for the most part) it works under our understanding of logic which gives us these big brain moments in fights is so damn amazing
The world of Jojo stems from Araki's fascination with our real world's cultures and weird things
@@danielnidhiry5796True.
It's also what keeps it intriguing.
I also like how most characters still have a "human body". Most shonen protagonists can tank bombs. But no matter how strong Star Platinum is, if Jotaro slips from a flight of stairs and lands on his head he could die.
It's the same reason Jujutsu Kaisen feels so fun to read / watch. It's set in our world as some kind of alternate history ttpe thing. They use tech that should be present in the era and the characters are period accurate
"There is no great genius without some touch of madness."
- Aristotle
Dios always been smart bro, dude was gonna be a lawyer
The only criticism I have is that you said Dio's presentation in Part 6 is a retcon when if you actually pay attention to Dio's character you can easily tell that is not the case
Like it’s literally in his dialogue too lmao
The first 3/4 of part 3 are there to show how intelligent and charismatic DIO is lol.
@@alfalldoot6715But sadly, Part 3 is hella forgotten so no one remembers that, you're lucky if you find a fan that barely remembers 30% of the part
@@alfalldoot6715 Just listen to what Dio says about Jonathan when he meets him as a head in the jar. (Before taking body of Jonathan) He said that "he admires Jonathan and their life and struggles were kinda predestined and if there was a god in their world then their destines would've been the most intricate ones". Its like a bit of foreshadowing or a commentary from the author himself about the story of his characters. And now this dialogue plays out to be a joke from their destiny itself haha.
Araki has essentially created a creation myth his universe, where stands and all of the supernatural powers throughout the parts are hints towards how the universe works
"Part 5 stablish the concept of fate"
Meanwhile Part 4 with Bites The Dust and the day repeating the same way and Hayato saying he won against fate
@preternatural9417 Meanwhile also in Part 1, Zeppeli knowing and accepting his unevitable fate
I think he meant that part 5 is the part that primarily focuses on the fate in JoJo
I feel like not mentioning ghosts or rock humans is a crime lol, their such great (and bizarre!) additions hehe
True, the spirits of part 4 (+ the jokai from TSRK) are in my opinion the most important worldbuilding part of DiU showing that exists different realms in the Jojo world and the afterlife exits
@@manupm9161 well we already see spirits in part 3 when avdol and iggy ascend to heaven and when joseph dies.
@@jacobmatthews7524 but it's never gets clear if those are real or hallucinations
@@manupm9161 when has anyone in jojo ever had a hallucination, especially one that coincidentally lines up perfectly with what we later see in parts four and five regarding spirits and the afterlife
if anyone is interested in Jojo's world-building I highly recommend Araki's book "manga in theory and practice" he talks a lot about how he builds characters setting and theme's of story it's a very interesting read.
Literal translation of Hamon is Ripple. And that's a very descriptive name. Hamon is vibrations, or waves. Hamon doesn't kill vampires by itself, you need to make it simulate ultraviolet waves. Every other use of Hamon, including the more strange examples, are actually some variation of vibrations or waves.
I wish translations had kept calling it Ripple, because that name alone does a lot to explain what it actually is, or at least figure it out.
i cant believe how you didnt mention that stands are actually a space virus and the fact that JoJo has an infinite multiverse.
13:29 I think that theme has kind of been going on starting from part 3 since Boingo and Tohth, since in the Boingo and Hol Horse episode Boingo keeps saying "if you follow what the book says then it'll work well but if you defy it then something bad will happen"
Actually, now Jojo's has 132 volumes, the first jojolands volume came out recently
Jojo: everything is preordained, everything is already decided, everything has been set in stone and destined from the very beginning of the universe
Araki: (a writer who writes on the spot)
tbh fate in part five, especially in rolling stones is shown to be changeable but only with determination, perseverance and sacrifices. at first it was meant for bucciarati to die alone, probably at the hands of diavolo when he was supposed to give trish to diavolo. the fact that mista by changing the stone, changed the fate probably meant that giorno will meet with bucciarati and give him another chance, which led to fate changing and finally defeating diavolo, but they had to sacrifice two additional live, but they didn't take any shortcuts, unlike diavolo who abused his ability to escape fate all the time.
cant believe you didnt talk about the ghosts
or the literal god of muscle from rohans stories
or the eastern luck directions that one stand in part 6 used
or the cryptids that one stand in part 6 used
jojos is fuckin nuts, man
THERES TO FUCKING MUCH MAN I WANTED TO
@@METAsMETAsPart 2?
Can ya blame him there's way too much,btw he does talk About it in his theology video
Araki has said that he comes up with the story as he is drawing, he doesn't plan what is going to happen he just goes on with the plot. I think he is the master of improvisation, and why jojo feels so different to other mangas. Jojo has barely or any foreshadowing, and almost every part is a "soft-retcon" of other parts, but the changes he makes are super cool, and makes it so that the story always evolves and doesn't reach a stale point. There are moments in the story that feels that Araki took those decisions not because they made sense, but because that would be the "cooler" decision.
@preternatural9417 Jojo's is currently monthly.
@preternatural9417 no oda and many other manga artists have strict schedule where they have special time dedicated to just scripting and thumbnailing
Many people don’t know this in the english community but “gravity” is not really what brings people together. Gravity would be 重力 (jūryoku) which they do actually say is necessary for achieving heaven. However DIO doesn’t actually ask pucci “do you believe in 重力?” He instead asks 君は引力を信じるか? He says 引力 (inryoku) which means “pulling power”! It can be interpreted as gravity also but it is different from 重力 (“heavy power”) so maybe attraction would be more fitting…
This is the single most nerdy comment I have ever gotten and I talk about powerscaling for a living
@@METAsMETAs oh well 😅.
There ya go ☝️🤓.
@@bandrewandrew7407 naw man all of Twitter is talking about this now lol
@@METAsMETAs oh boy… I might add then since this may blow up that I just tried to point out that it’s not the same word DIO uses for the gravity between people and the gravitational force that is used at C-moon and Jumpin’Jack flash (there it is also 重力 in fact 無重力/ mu jūryoku/no gravity). English doesn’t really have these nuances so that is why the translation says “gravity” to suggest that it is a similar force to the actual gravitational force. In my language (Hungarian) there is a word that can suggest for example gravitational pull but also other attraction aswell (the word is “vonzás”). I happened to translate the manga to one of my hungarian friends and that is why I noticed this. The way the two kanji is put together is the reason I said they mean “heavy power” and “pulling power” because those are the two characters.
Before starting the video I just hope you touch on the stuff in the SBRverse such as the Devils Palms, Saints, and most importantly, Rock Humans. The ideas in the setting of the SBRverse are some of my favorite world building ideas I've ever heard
Sadly I don’t go crazy into it CAUSE THERES A LOT
I remember when the backstory of the rock humans were revealed in a later JoJolion chapter. That was insane.
Along with how historical figures and past characters were used to reference how they lacked much physical differences from humans.
But that was the tip of the iceberg compared to the other reveal: Rocks.
Something I find really endearing of part 8 is the plot of surviving calamity and going through it by hope. Considering that amidst the myriad of bizarre stands and things you also got natural disasters, death and characters going through dark times make this part feel so humane. I love it.
To be honest JoJo has a lot of nuances that fans often oversight, both storytelling, thematics, ideas, and some interpretation that went open
Edit: Now I finished the video:
I believe stands can be summed in the will of someone manifested by their psychic energy, JoJo has a supernatural but realistic world that works in a very artistic and philosophical/abstract way...
I really like the ideas in JoJo because they're pretty much their own thing, Araki has stated about stands in a way that feels like our world is connected to stands, maybe there are stands in the world and they're perceived as being just really good at something and such, I really like how far the abstract nature goes honestly.
For me, the pillar men are so cool, because the way I see it, they’re essentially (in the world of Jojo) the origin of Aztec mythology. The myths the Aztecs wrote about gods and the like in that world was probably their understanding of what the pillarmen were.
I remember the first time I learned about Pucci's plan for the first time and was all confused. What is this guy on about? I thought he wanted to avenge his friend? Revive him? No? He just wants to relieve humans of anxiety by making them aware of their fate?
Until it dawned on me that this is exactly what Dio spoke about with Polnareff on those stairs.
4:37 I have GYAT to rewatch part two
Well, without Killer Queen, Kira would eventually be caught because Killer Queen allowed him to kill without leaving trace. So he was doomed, lol!
He thought fate was on his side but it was rigged from the beginning
Bro part 9 is gonna get wild if we're already starting off with the reality stuff
I have been thinking of how to expand on Hamon for a while now. And I have come up with multiple different branching forms of it. I feel like it deserved more expansion, so I have been writing to extend Araki's idea.
Explain
@@someguywithalowbudget1320 Well, given that the Hamon Tribe's teachings are as old as the Pillar Men, they must have some secrets techniques as well than just standard Hamon. I created two new types of Hamon: Dark Hamon and Hyper Hamon. They both require a ritual to be accessed from normal Hamon, but the rituals add immense power to the person doing said ritual.
This along with One Piece's world building is just great
1:11 bro really did say jamón
Araki is our worlds version of Ultimate Kars and is just writing the stories of his alternate versions so we can enjoy them.
And it part 9 it seems like araki intoduce a "mechanism" about wealth and therefore power
Honestly, not enough credit goes to his genius
And yes, it is genius
Stands are one of the best power systems I’ve seen already, but even after that Araki expanded its work
Really, it can all be traced back to Jojo’s underlining factor: Fate
Fate has always been a concept of Joni even before stands, but Araki managed to relate stands to fate when first introduced
But it didn’t stop there. If stands were the representation of one’s fighting spirit and psyche, of course it could lead to evolutions, or acts, if you will. That, plus the originator of stands being an arrow literally ingrained with fate, could lead to potential beyond just normal personality change, but more of a life change. The arrows either lead to that of release one’s true potential wether in the form of a requiem or what ever Bites the Dust was
But then Araki, even after all that, in my opinion, perfected it. Part 6 lead to the true form of fate that was either foreshadowed or brilliantly mold into being a constant of the universe. All of his previously built rules and revelations all leading to DIO’s plan to Heaven and the nature of fate itself leading to the peak of the original universe’s level of power. The Heaven plan is one of the most perfectly crafted and genius plans for a story I’ve ever seen, from the subtle meaning’s being the phrases to it using all of the existing elements I listed previously and didn’t about stands and fate, using fate itself to lead to a realm beyond our own. The thing is a Heaven stand is much more than just an upgrade: in truth, from what we’ve seen of Made in Heaven, it’s literally untouchable, normally, due to it actually having fate manipulation due to being actually outside of the universe, only connected to what ever it comes in contact with.
All. Of. It. Is. Incredibly. Genius.
If it was all planned (which it likely wasn’t) I’d say that is one of the most held out plans for a storyline I’ve seen
If it wasn’t, it’s the most brilliant form of not entirely adding but rather molding pre existing factors and related ideas together to leading one of the greatest, if not the greatest, forms of story and power systems I’ve ever been blessed to look at.
I’ve actually had all of this in mind for about two weeks and wanted to say something but could never find the right subject to put it in
And don’t get me started on the Golden Ratio, which in truth is really the closest physical thing we have, if not so, to fate being present
I could actually keep going on and on about this because there was only so much I could put in a comment that would actually get people’s to read, and even then it’s still quite long. I do hope others read about it, or at a least, no, just as much as I hope for the former option, to talk about it. Araki really deserves the recognition of all of this because it really is the greatest story-aligned power system I’ve seen. If you have questions on what I think, or what ever you guys think, feel free to express. The more intellectual conversation the better.
After resting the universe, MIH is literally untouchable unless given the opportunity similar to Emporio’s
Hanson haedcanonly could be seen as the Soin but breathing, using people who are built near perfectly like the golden ratio perfecting nature
Depending on on what level of logic we are talking about, WOU could very well be 10-11 dimensional
Pillar men are probably like rock people, being silicon based life forms instead of carbon based, and Kars, Wammu, Esiedecie and Santanna the vampire equivalents to them
Stand users are the only one who can see normal stands probably because they give off a different frequency of light
Stands, despite seemingly breaking laws of physics, is plausible either in physics or pure spirit energy
Tbh I don't understand why people shit on part 6 this much. I was super invested in all of these cool themes. Just seeing Dio again with this insane plan and Pucci as a whole was a huge vibe.
Araki basically heard the superman timetravel is impossible and wanted his own franchise with it an explanation how it is possible
I am extremely disappointed that you didn't even touch the Rock humans.
If there were drugs that allowed you to come up with shit like what Araki comes up with, I'd be on them 24/7.
i'm sure you're joking but when i was much younger, that attitude led me down some unfortunate places. creativity comes from within
some people do lsd microdosing
One of my favorite smaller bits of world building is that Stands and Hamon are actually connected; Stands, like Hamon, are often stated to come from life energy, and Stands were sometimes referred to in Part 3 as "Juhamon," or "Ghost Ripple." Hamon as a power system never really disappeared, it just evolved into a whole new form.
World building is always my favourite thing in series idk why but even as a little kid I loved obscure stuff and background detail in stories.
Dios carizma doesnt relate to the mask it originates from his own character. He could influence people even before he became a vampire.
Right, and even when It doesn't work he can just implant a vampiric flesh node into the person to manipulate them like he did with Anya and Kakyoin
Rule 34: if it killed diavolo, it's canon
The gravity concept reminds me of of a concept I made where souls in my story split off and reincarnate into multiple people. All ancient religions are canon to existents as all these god type beings had their souls reincarnate all over the world. Your soul descending from a certain figure can tie your fate in certain ways like you may be bound to have a similar life story to certain figures, you may make enemies with people descending from the souls of your of your oversoul's enemy, and so-on.
I feel like I have some genius ideas. I just I was talented in any meaningful way.
Also vitamin c arc is my favorite arc in jojo.
I like to believe that the rule of stand users attracting other stand users is an explanation for why people get in stand fights every half a week
that literally is the explanation, thats the purpose of araki making that statement in the story
Now we wait for Part 7
Yes, it is quite insane
One might even say
Bizarre
Stand rules are so funny because almost all of them are broken at some point. There's stuff like "effective range", stands being intangible and sharing senses with the user, which rarely get brought up, like why did no one ever use their stand to look through walls and stuff?
Some of the rules that just get ignored are "one ability only", despite stands like Tower of Gray just having no ability at all and stands like Highway star having the most random 2 abilities in generating a desired room and sucking nutrients at 80 km/h.
Obvioulsy "one stand per user" gets wrecked by Pucci, but there's also the 11 men and the boom boom family who somehow have the same stand?
The two rats had the same stand, but that is because the rats wanted food. Then again, as assassins from the same family, they would all have magnetism powers by Tomb of the Boom, and the eleven men also being synchronized assassins would probably have Tatoo You!
I like to think that the Stands were created to “rival the power of the gods” was supposed to be about the pillar men and hamon users. It would connect all of the past things neatly into humanities response to Hamon and Pillar Men
LOVE the hollow knight intro
That thumbnail tho
didn't even mention the spin, great video nonetheless and definitely a good video to kickstart the discussion on araki's insane and incredible worldbuilding work
Always a good Day when METAs uploads.
What I take away from the worldbuilding of Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure as well as the main theme of the series being a “celebration of humanity” is that the Joestars are the biggest personification of the Indomitable Human Spirit.
*1:56* ok technically somewhat pretty boys
6:27 * intensely stares at the Fate Series, and things being explained as "gas leaks" *👀👀
He rlly knows the art of referencing to build the world of jojo
Fate is the strongest stand and the universe is it’s stand user🫨🫨🫨
its actually not even a joke. Jesus was a stand user, making it reasonable that the miracles he has done was a stand power. Meaning God is either a stand or an ultimate stand user, and Jesus has merely a fraction of God's power. Maybe his stand power was simply to carry out the will of God.
@@AmelpsXett it would make sense since stands are fighting spirit & will materialized which god can easily make
jojo is such a creative manga, with hamon it was kinda crazy but not to much. Then with stand we got so many creative power, fight and design from more basic like Star Platinum to simple power like Killer Queen used a creative power to complex power like Dragon Dream, Wonder of U ecc
Araki makes simple and seemingly useless powers terrifying and creative for sure
Part two is still one of my favorite in the series.
10:15 I think it’s less that Kira got KQ and became attracted to Stand users bc he’s had it since he killed Remi, and KQ helped him hide all his murders. However bc Morioh became so dense with Stand Users he essentially couldn’t hide due to sheer luck
19:43 he doesn't even look old.
the vampires later become pretty boys with super hero like powers tho
spin has been forgotten
Jodio Joestar is going to culminate this lore with the idea of Free Will. The idea that Fate is actually something that can be changed when you understand the Mechanism underlaying these concepts.
Part 1 is literally my favorite.
People don't believe me when I say that.
Spirits are connected to everything
Yo i have a feeling the last part of jojos gonna expand upon the concept of value to complete the story of jjba universe since so far (spoilers) the lava rock seems to be drawing in items that have great monetary value which can be translated to non-physical value (the logic of gravity = how two individuals inevitably draw to one another and fortune and misfortune = who will win to write history gives me that logic). I think this is a pretty natural end to it because it kinda completes the main idea on how the jjba universe wants to end itself. Gravity draws important individuals together, fortune and misfortue decides the individual's fate, those who messes with fate gets hit with endless calamities, calamities are fought with value and value becomes the key to solving the universe which the jojo villains prolly wasnt able to solve the universe bc they lack moral value or smth
Im cooking with drugs rn :/
17:05 I think the word you're looking for is Bizarre.
I would argue that nothing is retconned regarding how DIO is in part 6. In part 3, we only saw him with his subordinates. Pucci is someone DIO actually considered to be a friend, so it makes sense he would act very differently around him.
Ok there's a few things, but mainly: what do you mean Kira would have been a better killer if he didn't have a stand??? His stand was what allowed him to evade capture for so long cause it completely destroyed the bodies without leaving evidence.
Long story short getting a stand affected his ego leading to his downfall and stand rules fucked him over. He was better off without it in the long run
@@mrfact03s No, it was the arrow.
I think unhinged is a more befitting term to describe his world building
I really need whatever Araki was on for the last 30+ years.
8:45 hahaha eggy looks stupid😂
Can you do a video explaining all rock humans stands PLEASE
Amazing video
But dio aint a retcon in part 6
I recomend watching the video on dio from hamon beat that goes into his path from part 3
One thing that really made me think: "whoa that's a cool idea" is in part 4 (spoiler) when that mangaka character appears. Thats interesting, making fun of your own job in your manga.
That gratuitous jab at twilight is showing your age
You are gonna love the "lord of the mysteries" anime
If ya love worldbuilding, you GOTTA watch Ascendance of a Bookworm
jodio is the son of the world. time stops every time he closes his eyes but he doesn't notice cause his eyes are closed...
HOLLOWW KNIGHTTT REFRENCEE 😭😭😭💕💕💕
Ah, yes- “big MEN punching the shit out of each other.”
My favorite.
First time I read JoJoLand, I got bamboozled thinking Dragona was a girl at first. Classic Araki and his unpredictable story.
2:27
So cool that was copied but in a different way, right Demon Slayer?
Diavolo has been to all of these locations
My favourite anime ♥️
You are so based for acknowledging the bleach world building, the fact that people just forget about the millions of years of history in the soul society, the quincies the soul king the royal families and their history, it's just a gold mine of world building that people just tend to gloss over