You forgot “emotional eating “, very commen in the live of complex trauma people. When one feels sad or is triggered they start to eat sweets and cookies and cake, take a second or third portion on their plate and so on. Then afterwards they have the guilt.
It has been proven that people only do that with ultra processed fake versions of food, like fake wholemeal bread and fake pizza, full of emulsifiers that ruin the gut bacteria, leading to metabolic dysfunction that affects the brain and makes you crave more consumption. Real pizza with real dough, real bread, real cake (i.e. homemade from scratch, with no gut bacteria destroying industrial chemicals unavailable to hoe kitchens) have been proven to cause people to enjoy the taste equally yet to consume 500 calories fewer per day than their ultra processed pre-packaged versions. Calling this a mental illness instead of chemical injury to the gut microbiome is letting corporations get away with global health devastation and fraudulent marketing.
I am very disappointed that compulsive overeating didn't make the list of eating disorders defined at the beginning of the presentation. More people suffer from being overweight & obesity than suffer from anorexia; yet it is rarely discussed as a disorder that requires intervention. Compulsive overeating and overweight resulting in obesity are regarded as a lack of character, discipline, or fortitude. In this society, It is still acceptable to discriminate against obese individuals . Compulsive overeating is on the same spectrum anorexia/bulimia, it just has a different manifestation. In my experience, people fall over themselves to help an eating disordered patient that weighs 75 lbs but retracts and distains the individual with an eating disorder that weighs 375lbs. I am not accusing, just trying to bring awareness of the prejudices that exist for the individuals that suffer with eating disorders that result in morbidly obese and to advocate for fair treatment/consideration in our healthcare system. The awareness needs to resound especially among healthcare professionals. As always, wonderful presentation.
During the lowest parts of my life i bordered on obese. Its a bitter memory because many seemingly decent people will not hesitate to kick you when you are lying down, so to speak. All those barbed comments on how my body had changed, still today i feel deep shame if someone even glances at my abdomen.
Gluttony is one of the deadly sins. There's many contributing factors to consider with obesity that used to not be an issue as little as 50-100 years ago. There's plenty of western medications out there that causes individuals to gain unhealthy weight. Unmanaged stress & unhealthy lifestyles is a huge factor plus it doesn't help with all the fake, processed, GMOs foods that are fillers which offers no actual nutritional value. White table salt & sugar have been stripped of their nutrition. Most honey on the shelves is not real honey. Look at foods from seeds of old versus foods with todays seeds & compare their nutritional value. Living in an instant gratification world constantly on the go, go, go is what is slowly killing us & the enemy is standing on the sidelines laughing at us.
I found that compulsive overeating comes from a desperation to connect and over feeling for others and others problem’s encroaching on your own self esteem and self worth. Feeling as tho your emotions don’t matter, being pushed so hard into isolating your issues inside
Oh my gosh! This was so helpful! I struggle with binge/emotional eating but I could apply so much of this to my issue. The interview with Debbie was amazing and nearly my exact story up until the weight loss part. I wish I could get in contact with her.
Debbie it's so great to hear your story! I'm going to listen to this again so I can figure out how to get where you are :) I am only 2 years into my food sobriety and a recent graduate of LIFT online. For now I still need to follow that strict 3 weighed/measure meals, no snacking program because it's the only thing I've ever found that keeps my overeating and binges in control. One day I hope I can eat my meals and even snack in moderation without drifting into binge territory.
The hardest part is when you’ve recovered from an ED and then relapse but you no longer look like you have an ED so people don’t understand but it’s screaming in your head. When I was underweight everyone worried and now it feels like they think I’m dramatic. I’m getting to a good place but dang it’s hard. Definitely having to press into God and His control instead of mine
I fought my eating disorder after I realized it is not Ed that is the source of my problem but rather that my ed is the way I cope with a bigger issue which was having an authoritarian narcissistic mother
@@Maruzzela-l1u Avoidant Restrictive Food Intake. It basically when you restrict your food intake but with no weight control reason. I was actually mistaken when I said I have ARFID. The physiologist says I had anorexia….
@@EL-ln8ei meaning one wont eat out of fear of getting fat? hank you for your answer ..the craziest thing jst happenned as I started typing my comment yt switched to a ytshorts about a girl who had anorexia....anyways....the difference would be anorexia is linked to depression?
So can we say SHAME leads to supression of feelings and DISCINNECTION...then that turns to Addictions to self soothe bcoz the previous 2 create a close loop...if one conects to emotions feels shame ciz had been shunned as kid and the inner critic along with fear of error is inside . so goes back to disconection .but wo feelings life is joyless hence self soothing ?,
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You forgot “emotional eating “, very commen in the live of complex trauma people. When one feels sad or is triggered they start to eat sweets and cookies and cake, take a second or third portion on their plate and so on. Then afterwards they have the guilt.
YES!
It has been proven that people only do that with ultra processed fake versions of food, like fake wholemeal bread and fake pizza, full of emulsifiers that ruin the gut bacteria, leading to metabolic dysfunction that affects the brain and makes you crave more consumption. Real pizza with real dough, real bread, real cake (i.e. homemade from scratch, with no gut bacteria destroying industrial chemicals unavailable to hoe kitchens) have been proven to cause people to enjoy the taste equally yet to consume 500 calories fewer per day than their ultra processed pre-packaged versions. Calling this a mental illness instead of chemical injury to the gut microbiome is letting corporations get away with global health devastation and fraudulent marketing.
I am very disappointed that compulsive overeating didn't make the list of eating disorders defined at the beginning of the presentation. More people suffer from being overweight & obesity than suffer from anorexia; yet it is rarely discussed as a disorder that requires intervention. Compulsive overeating and overweight resulting in obesity are regarded as a lack of character, discipline, or fortitude. In this society, It is still acceptable to discriminate against obese individuals . Compulsive overeating is on the same spectrum anorexia/bulimia, it just has a different manifestation. In my experience, people fall over themselves to help an eating disordered patient that weighs 75 lbs but retracts and distains the individual with an eating disorder that weighs 375lbs. I am not accusing, just trying to bring awareness of the prejudices that exist for the individuals that suffer with eating disorders that result in morbidly obese and to advocate for fair treatment/consideration in our healthcare system. The awareness needs to resound especially among healthcare professionals. As always, wonderful presentation.
Anorexia IS narcissistic personality disorder. Sam Vaknin and every other expert acknowledges this.
During the lowest parts of my life i bordered on obese. Its a bitter memory because many seemingly decent people will not hesitate to kick you when you are lying down, so to speak. All those barbed comments on how my body had changed, still today i feel deep shame if someone even glances at my abdomen.
Gluttony is one of the deadly sins. There's many contributing factors to consider with obesity that used to not be an issue as little as 50-100 years ago. There's plenty of western medications out there that causes individuals to gain unhealthy weight. Unmanaged stress & unhealthy lifestyles is a huge factor plus it doesn't help with all the fake, processed, GMOs foods that are fillers which offers no actual nutritional value. White table salt & sugar have been stripped of their nutrition. Most honey on the shelves is not real honey. Look at foods from seeds of old versus foods with todays seeds & compare their nutritional value. Living in an instant gratification world constantly on the go, go, go is what is slowly killing us & the enemy is standing on the sidelines laughing at us.
I found that compulsive overeating comes from a desperation to connect and over feeling for others and others problem’s encroaching on your own self esteem and self worth. Feeling as tho your emotions don’t matter, being pushed so hard into isolating your issues inside
Your overweight eating disorders is what the ACE study was all about. We’re very aware.
Oh my gosh! This was so helpful! I struggle with binge/emotional eating but I could apply so much of this to my issue. The interview with Debbie was amazing and nearly my exact story up until the weight loss part. I wish I could get in contact with her.
What about binge eating without purging. That’s a huge one.
Debbie it's so great to hear your story! I'm going to listen to this again so I can figure out how to get where you are :) I am only 2 years into my food sobriety and a recent graduate of LIFT online. For now I still need to follow that strict 3 weighed/measure meals, no snacking program because it's the only thing I've ever found that keeps my overeating and binges in control. One day I hope I can eat my meals and even snack in moderation without drifting into binge territory.
I loved the guest today. As always, Tim is the best❤️
Excellent presentation 👏🏽 Thank You ‼️
Yes, my mother would shame herself by calling herself fat. I'd feel disconnected when this would happen. Luckily, it wasn't that often.
Such a helpful video I’m a former anorexic. Thank you
1:00 addressing conventional approach to the issue
It's a pity Debbie's experience was cut because I found it very useful but thanks for posting anyway.
The hardest part is when you’ve recovered from an ED and then relapse but you no longer look like you have an ED so people don’t understand but it’s screaming in your head. When I was underweight everyone worried and now it feels like they think I’m dramatic.
I’m getting to a good place but dang it’s hard. Definitely having to press into God and His control instead of mine
I fought my eating disorder after I realized it is not Ed that is the source of my problem but rather that my ed is the way I cope with a bigger issue which was having an authoritarian narcissistic mother
Would it b fair to say that parents with bpd have kids with cptsd?
Thank you 🙏🏽
Thank you 🙏
ARFID is missing here and it may be caused by CPTSD. That’s what happened to me….
ARFID and BPD. BPD *does* belong with the others for so many reasons.
What s ARFID
@@Maruzzela-l1u Avoidant Restrictive Food Intake. It basically when you restrict your food intake but with no weight control reason.
I was actually mistaken when I said I have ARFID. The physiologist says I had anorexia….
@@EL-ln8ei meaning one wont eat out of fear of getting fat?
hank you for your answer ..the craziest thing jst happenned as I started typing my comment yt switched to a ytshorts about a girl who had anorexia....anyways....the difference would be anorexia is linked to depression?
I am not sure if you answer our questions but my husband's personality has changed since his surgery and he has become my enemy. Can this reverse?
So can we say SHAME leads to supression of feelings and DISCINNECTION...then that turns to Addictions to self soothe bcoz the previous 2 create a close loop...if one conects to emotions feels shame ciz had been shunned as kid and the inner critic along with fear of error is inside . so goes back to disconection .but wo feelings life is joyless hence self soothing
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Thank you all!
So binge eating without purging is not an eating disorder? I think my 600 pound life proves it is.