Apprentices
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Good evening everybunny!
Today's discussion is about apprentices. It quickly goes off the rails into rambling about other things I personally would like to see in the Warrior Cats series.
If there is no video next week, I am currently working on a long video about Starclan...
Subtitles have been added so RUclips doesn't auto generate them!
I always felt that Skyclan should have gotten the Sky Oak that cinderheartpaw fell out of to use as a camp. It has sky in the name!
I really wanna see more unique training depending on the mentor and apprentice, I’m always trying to make perfect matches for personality and everything, plus adding unique training styles for the characters lol
In a fanfic I was doing, Breezepelt and a several of other Clan cats far away from the Clans because they felt the leaders handled the Ashfur situation too poorly to be excused. They collect a lot of other cats along the way and realize after finding a place to settle down that they were WAY too big to operate smoothly. After watching Bumblestripe’s crush Cherryblossom constantly fix camp walls, dens, and nests but admit that he was a very poor hunter and hated the idea of fighting, Breezepelt got the idea of making units within the Clan, which each had a head to work with the deputy to form more effective patrols and hand out tasks. All cats would get basic hunting and self-defense training, but the hunting and border patrols would be carried out by certain cats. Hunters would learn moor advanced hunting techniques such as SkyClan’s hunting in the trees or RiverClan’s fishing. Guards would learn more advanced battle moves. Patrollers would learn both and lead patrols. Border patrols would be one or two patrollers, up to three guards, and one or two hunters to act as scouts in case they needed to send for reinforcements. Hunting patrols would have the same number of patrollers, up to three hunters, one or two guards, in case a predator attacked while they were hunting. Keepers would make sure the camp walls were fortified, dens didn’t have holes, and nests were comfortable enough, as well as helping the medicine cats collect herbs (much to Jayfeather’s pure JOY lol) and just keep the camp tidy as so many cats were bound to make a mess. In the event of the camp being attacked, keepers were also tasked with helping the kits, elders, and injured cats escape to someplace safe. Breezepelt makes sure everyone under that outside of basic needs, keepers are provide the most valuable service as cats don’t have to stop hunting in leafbare for a day or more to fix a hole in the elders den or worry about the safety of their mates and kits in an attack, they take care of the taste that aren’t usually thought of so the other can focus on feeding and protecting the Clan. The unit heads were chosen as apprentices and trained to know not only their units toasts, but also how to help the deputy make patrols, divide daily chores, and figure out problems within their unit- like how to spread out hunting patrols so they don’t over use areas, how to drive out a badger in their territory, or where to find building supplies when the stock they have starts to run low. Apprentices both choose their unit and also have a small test to see what skills they have to work with to better determine who should mentor them- some are better at hunting, some at fighting, some are equally good at both, and some aren’t good at either and need lots of training.
I like writing apprentices that are part of a prophecy and always sidetracking their training because of it lol like “I have to go to battle training but… I also need to go to this location to figure out what the heck it was that StarClan cat was trying to tell me in my dreams last night.”
That is super cool and I would love to read that!
I love this! So much!
@@FlareJollyDragoness thanks! I recently stared rewriting the story, but then a different story I dead came to mind and I’ve been obsessing over that lol
Oooo Can you send me a link to the fanfic?
@@idonthaveanygoodusernameid7713 I’m not done yet, but I will when I am!
I enjoyed your rant on how the clans aren't so different from one another. I might add the role of builder and den mother to my fanfic's allegiances. Den mothers help queens and take care of the kits while the queens are hunting/patrolling. Basically what Daisy does. I love the idea of nicknames for certain ranks and SkyClan living in the trees!
Edit: Forgot to add this: I think the clans lost their culture the moment they moved territories. I prefer the first arc + pre-Into The Wild books because the clans felt more unique. RiverClan built dens that float in the event of a flood, ShadowClan apprentices learned how to hunt frogs, SkyClan's gorge, etc.
One thing I like about the Tribe of Rushing Water is how they have separate positions for cave-guards and prey-hunters, which are treated as equal under the Healer. I just got finished reading Outcast, and one of things I really wish happened was that the Tribe and the Clan cats came up with the solution to assign cats in charge of both ranks in a deputy-like position. The cave-guard leader could be called "Headguard", while the prey-hunter leader could be called "Huntwatcher". It would be a good compromise, as the headguard could lead patrols like a deputy, and the huntwatcher could look out for spots of abundant prey and competition. I also think that Stormfur and Brook could have, and should have, been the first ones to earn and take on these roles (with the former as headguard and latter as huntwatcher, respectively), considering their outcasting was half the catalyst of the book's plot, and we could have seen them earning their place back in the Tribe compared to the little they actually contribute to the story.
I think crookedstars promise has the only notable occurrence of the battle styles of the clans. When Maple trains him, a thunder clan cat, he learns a "thunderclan" move of tucking your tail behind the hindlegs, he uses this in action and the i think Riverclan cats take notice and ask where he learned it.
Frostpaw's warrior training felt... Different, it felt like such a relief for her to not have to carry the whole clan on her back with the whole "I'm the only one that can speak to starclan" thing, like, her training felt more like a break from all the struggle she was going through rather than the chore mixed with fun it's always been.
Late to the party, but something to note about Clan culture! In anthropology, there's this thing called Peer Polity Systems. A polity is a political unit (in Warriors' case, each individual Clan) and peer polities are politically equal units with a shared culture. The Greek city-states, the Iroquois, Scottish, and Japanese Clans, and English Heptarchy are peer polities. They share essentially the same battle tactics, architecture, systems of measurement, ideologies, writing systems, currency, and religious beliefs. The Warrior Clans are, in theory, another peer polity, so they should have a lot in common with one another and shouldn't feel as different as the Gauls from the Germanic peoples.
I see plenty of well-meaning people who, in an effort to make their Clans more distinct, make them too different that they don't feel like a shared culture anymore, like making how Starclan works vastly different in each Clan or having the role of leader be different. I personally like giving my Clans a henotheistic religion, where they recognize many gods but only worship some of them.
On a different note, one thing I see often neglected in fanclan worldbuilding are myths, folklore, and fairy tales, which may be inherited from canon (Lionclan and Tigerclan are only mentioned in passing, and we don't get any myths about them and Leopardclan until we read _supplemental material._ Freaking Watership Down interwove myths into its story, why can't Warriors?). Where are the myths for explaining natural phenomena? Why the territory is the way it is? Creation myth? Nursery tales to teach kittens how to behave? Mytho-history to tell apprentices and warriors what they're fighting for? I'd recommend checking out the video "Writing Animal Societies in Mythic Xenofiction" by Cardinal West for worldbuilding advice!
I’ll go check out that video! I’ve been looking for more material to help me with my own worldbuilding.
Reading this, I definitely fall into the “making clans more different than similar” camp haha. Each POV we get from another clan feels more and more like diet ThunderClan. If they added just a few more differences it might help the monotony of apprentice training or hunting rabbits. There is the issue of having them be so different it makes the fact that they have the same ancestors mean nothing. Thank you for bringing up peer politics, I’ll keep that in mind when writing or analyzing these books.
I’ve never seen someone do clans having many gods, that’s an interesting take on Warriors that is like to see more of. We know of other afterlives and ghosts so it’s not out of the realm of possibility.
Warriors lacks in myths outside of LeopardClan, TigerClan and LionClan. They don’t mention it a lot it’s surprising anyone still remembers it in the books. The supplemental material adding to the lore helps some but the main books should still be expanding on it to make it feel more cohesive. Usually their explanations for things is just StarClan or things are the way they are and that’s that.
I enjoyed reading your comment! It’s giving me a lot to think about.
Sorry for any mistakes in advance since english is not my first language!
Things about myths, folklore and religion are one of the things I'm having a lot of problems with, since me and my friends are kind of excluding StarClan and the Dark Forest from our RP, all dead cats go to the same place in our universe; so there's no "StarClan did it!" excuse! They do actually have all the same positions as the originals with a few additions here and there; like a Delegate, which is like a mediator and advisor to the Leader and Deputy, but is chosen by the rest of the Clan cats!
So far, we have:
-Clan of the Rising Mist: their region is in the wetlands, it is often foggy in there, and many lost cats allegedly were guided back by fliendly fires(will o the wisps), so for them fire is sacred. They are the only clan that know how to light fires(don't ask how XD) and have bonfire fests.
-Clan of the Sea Wind: live by the seashore, their camp in an abandoned lighthouse! Know how to read the winds, so they know about weather changes. They love to run along the shore to feel the wind; needless to say, wind is sacred for them. Whenever it rains they have a celebration to thank the wind for bringing them drinkable water! They also watch the sunset and startaze together by the beach.
-Clan of the Silent Ruins: they have this name because their camp is inside an abandoned village and train station, their territory is in the forest though. The earth is sacred to them and they have the habit to meditate with their claws unsheathed to feel the ground better.
-Clan of the Mossy Stones: their territory is in the hills but they live inside an intricate cave system with water(like Son Doong cave in Vietnam for example). They havd fish there and learnt how to swim, so water is their sacred element! They bathe themselves in the water to wash away their doubts and their old lives during a ceremony. There's also a large lake outside that has water lilies growing, and they gather there to watch the fireflies.
But as you said too, I'll have to watch so that they won't end too differently from each other! And thanks for the video suggestion!
I love all of this!! The warriors world needs building and I accept all of the headcanons you’ve put forward in this video. Medicine cat apprentices being called “sprouts” omg that’s adorable❤️
Thank you so much for this, Im working on a fanfiction for my own group of clans and this has helped a lot. Most of my main characters time is spending with his friends instead of working because i feel like its more natural. Again tysm!
The music in the background unlocked memories of playing Sims animals. I have been trying to remember the name of that game for so long!
I love the nicknames you came up with!
And this is why I enjoy worldbuilding to some degree. As much as I love the clans it's okay to branch off an start something based off it. For example the my fanfic I frankenstein everything entirely!
Like instead of clans I adopted the name region because of how wide their territory is it gave me more room to worldbuild and there are 6 regions in total (Because I like being diverse) there use to be 7 but don't think hairless cats can make it in the wild so I made them sore of like prophets that live in a bard an can see the future. I even extended the roles more so every at is more active. The name changing for roles is also a major thing like
Warriors are called strikers
apprentices are called neophyts there is one for each rank depending on how good they're doing at that certain skill giving them a wide variety of options so there isn't really anything boring for them to do. They're even an exclusive role called a successor (not really new) for the kits of leaders if they want to take on that role an follow in the footsteps of their parents.
Envoy is another name for deputy (leader name stays the same didn't want to butcher it)
I made the use of guards which is a new rank since we see cats guarding the camp entrance or the ones the tribe of rushing water but not much is mentioned about them an I thought I'd give them some light
kits still have normal names an they're plenty of nicknames for them but I won't list them tldr
Hunter isn't new because the tribes did it first but they range from gatherer to hunter head hunter\sorter (basically a small task of handing out prey to region members individually the point being every cat will have their share based on how well they did in their task, their names don't change an having these small tasks to keep them occupied. If not they have free time till there is something to do.
Medicine cats are called healers, I know they have been used before in other fanfics so I took on the name as well and they range from herb hunter to healer to Oracle which is something new an hasn't been done before along with they can have a mate- I know that's entirely taboo but hey this is a fanfic everyone takes risks you know? Another change is Starclan to them is called Scattered skies (they're aware that clan cats an tribal cats exists) while still having the same purpose as in the books, I adopted the use of guards watching hunters from the tribe of rushing water as I didn't want to take away the things that made warriors cats what it is today. I won't go deep into detail but I can answer why are there so many regions(clans) in one area, because diversity is key an I wouldn't wan to stick to just one group of cats, to me the more cats they're the more special it is to make use to diversity within your universe so to everyone don't be afraid to try something new an even though your clan
egion\colony or other names for your cat group might look the same a the lake territory it's okay to be similar as long as you change up a few things because nothing has to be the same as the books =)))
I adore the new names and ranks! Envoy sticks out to me the most. It's got an almost mystical feel to it. Adding more roles to the clans would be a game changer. We already have Tree being a mediator so why not other jobs that are outside of Warriors and Medicine Cats?
Did not expect to hear sims animals music. Awesome
WHAWHA-- I watched you yesterday right before I went to sleep and I went to watch more of your videos,, only to realize you only have around 200 subs!! I am now subbed and I am so excited to see more warriors content :) it's a nice thing to have in the background or just even directly watch
Aww, Thank you!
rank nicknames i've always been neutral about but calling medicine cat apprentices sprouts.... omg thats so damn cute
Time to add some diversity to those clans I made up
Been here since day 1! Keep up the content!
6 seasons and a movie!
I honestly cats would stay apreices for longer.
Ayo 😳