i appreciate tier lists with comments on each entry instead of a random number system or just putting classes in SSS tier of F tier without explanation. good video
I think succession ranger should be in playable, she is strong in her own role in nodes/siegies/big pvp/rbf, due to the damage itself. However awakening is indeed weird, i fits in just dont because the amount of knowledge and skill required for this class to be playable is just not worth the time to invest. You may be wrong on mystic, since she has a lot of bugs. However everything else is on point.
It's a shame how they dealt with Awakening Nova. It needed nerfs a *long* time ago and I feel like their vision for the class is all wrong. I agree that being a 3 minute class makes it boring, like you said. I still main Nova, I still love it. But I wish they instead treated accel like a different "mode" rather than a straight buff to every skill. For example, they could make non-accel more protected with access to CC and make accel faster with more damage but less protected and less CC (edit: I should clarify, not faster or more damage than what it has now - just faster/higher damage than non-accel as it already is). Maybe they could even lock out certain skills in one or the other (for example, no vacuums or grab in accel). Essentially make it a class that switches between two playstyles every 30 seconds. But instead they went in the 3-minute class direction.
I play awaken witch on t1, t2+, and in siege. Awaken witch is viable on large scale only if its capped content like mediah or valencia siege, or capped NW like t1. Otherwise its large scale potential outside of its utility is horrible. Even with new ranged poke its long range dmg is limited and small. Close range it has to rotate SA to function and stand still in a 1 shot meta. Its damage is still sub par atm with rework and lets not forget about its split damage. You are lucky to get 2 skills off before dying. Mobility wise it has next to nothing, 1 tp to either position, use to attack, or use to defend. The more gear you go against, the more awaken witch falls off. It turns out standing still with this much gear in the game and no mobility is a bad combo lol. But yeah besides its utility I think its not that playable since there is very little in the kit atm to help you in this meta and what it does have is very lacking. If you are fighting any guild over 660gs avg, GL. Can't 1v1, can't ball v ball cause you insta die. Capped awaken witch on siege is playable though :) Oh and fix awaken witch dmg, its so bad atm it feels bugged (inb4 the 1 comment about how someone can kill their ranger friend)
The damage on awakened castor is bugged out rn for example voltaic as a skill always had low low damage.. but the pet flow didn’t and did all the damage.. with the removal of pet damage and flows all we have as is base skill damage and now the class doesn’t do damage: they will fix it though . Also pets aren’t taking on skill addons or ext buffs like food etc. there’s some doubt even buffs from crystals are applying as intended. And with the classes limited mobility and so much damage in game for a class reliant on FGs which melt, and easy for high mobility to wrap around FGs. Or on a SA skill you don’t have the mobility or cancels to avoid blowing up in SA . All are issues PA is aware of tho.
@@janeway7953 "All are issues PA is aware of tho." Unbugged damage still wont make awaken witch viable in terms of mobility or how the class was designed to play. Even before rework it was rough. We got 1 backwards SA tp that is slow to cast and has super tiny movement distance and gap at the end. There is legit too much dmg and gear in the game to play awaken witch how it was designed. If they are aware they just don't seem to care. Mobility wise, you have a class with single tp in the same game they design novas and corsairs in. But yeah, that all being said, would at least be nice to have some damage in the 1-2 skills before we die :(
Yea PA's plan for balance was "if we make the 1shot meta even worse than truly everyone can 1shot everyone. Therefore balance" R we really praising them for making the single biggest problem with pvp even worse? And like significantly worse not just a little worse
Not me only realizing after 19:54 that this is a PvP Tier list .. I was wondering why you never said anything about PVE :D I am so dumb. But amazing video and your ranking makes so much sense and it`s nice how you explained why on every aspect.
...I just do not understand what's going on here. Awakening Mystic does not function in any of the content. Its ungodly bugged with shard management, PvP damage getting applied in PvE, one of the two new skills being completedly useless, and the numbers all around being significantly bad than anyone else. This is exactly what Tamer is suffering from, and you put them into ''just don't'' list. You cant just put a class (awak in this case) into ''strong'' category while it DOES NOT function, and I don't understand how ''it will be fixed in the future'' justifies that. The bugs on awakening are only one part of a massive problem... If we gonna start making tier lists based on assumptions of the future, might as well put everyone into playable category.
its completely reasonable. when did PA ever care about tamer and fixed or did something to help tamer players? Right, never! and mystic is indeed still very strong. this is a pvp list. and PVE and the issues in pve dont play a role in this list. Mystic is still super tanky, has CC for days and also has some really sweet dmg. obviously its not musa/dk dmg.. but for a class that doesnt die to anything, CCs everything and has dmg to finish off opponents is just really good. and you guys have to accept that
I agree. Succ mystic is upper playable to low strong imo for large scale. Strong for 1v1. Strong for 1vX. The same can’t be said for awakening mystic. Awakening mystic is more like strong for 1v1. Just dont for large scale. Playable for 1vX given you have +30-50 gs on your opponents. Awakening mystics are down bad
@@MrDoit187 say that to my -73%, -75.9% pvp modifiers. have you seen any awakening mystic pvp lately? it's ok on low GS. Compared to succ or other classes, 650gs+ it has barely any pvp damage on 1v1 yet alone large scale.
@@jins5108 weil if you wanna be a damage dealer, then dont play awakening mystic. Awakening mystic has always been a tanky cc bot. Thats the class design. If you wanna kill people play something else. Seems like you need to reroll :P
@@vietdang5756 bro it was joke I play Consol and I’ve played her since she launched and I have been begging for them to add and black desert mobile skills into existing skills that would work Literally the same Just different colors it was literally just a joke
Y'all are malding like crazy about a tier list that is subjective while he explained his point of view and opinions about every single class in the game (except Shai for obvious reasons). Agree or not, Musa is not as Strong as it's predecessors. Being able to one hit you like any other class is not as bad as being able to range CC, range damage, teleport around, heal , give PA or even mentioning Nova. He is not as oppressive as she is, he lacks the grab, he lacks the s. He's not that good in certain matchups. For the rest, his tier list is subjective, just because you guys think a class is not strong, or is strong doesn't mean that this is the point of view of everyone. Most of my friends consider Guardian to be overpowered because they don't know how to deal with her and play non grab classes. Does it mean guardian is broken ? Of course not. Same thing, you guys might lack the gear, the pvp experience or even the skills to judge a class at full potential. Sadly ranger is one of the best duelists as awakening with the rework when played to perfection in my opinion. Does it mean it's broken? Does it mean I would recommend it ? No. Y'all should calm your tits it's a tier list in a videogame, just because your class is ranked highly but you think otherwise (maybe because you suck) doesn't mean that you should be hating on someone for saying something that goes against your opinion.
Honestly Im so glad to finally see ppl play dk and consider her as good without following ppl with outdated information and opinions about her because she really is good now
@@yakoolza3958 What's that combo? Is that an unrealistic recc combo? I heard that mystic damage is actually bad and if it's not true I may wanna tag her and try it
Tbh suc wizard is weak idk what they did but they nerfed its damage and left it incredibly squishy. In large scale where it's suppose to reign king its dog. And Musa is broken. I don't think anyone in NA would disagree.
Awakening wizard is much better than succesion imo, much more damage, much more aoe, more protections, just less mobility and range, but the range in succession is useless as you need to get near in some moment, and the mobility is a bit better but still a weak point just like awakening, I play wizard since 2017 and I find awakening better for everything, pve, pvp 1vs1 and node wars
People are traumatized from it being meta for so long that people think they're still op. My meteor does less damage than bolide. They needed cataclysm in awk to shit. And for wiz to be worth a shot you absolutely need 293+ ap to do what other classes will do to you at 277. But if theyeven slightly buff wiz the community will have a heart attack.
Hmm when you were reviewing musa, you make mention of awk sage being oppressive but then towards the end mention sage is the just don’t tier list. Is the awakened sage oppressive in its strength and power or oppressive in the term that is harsh to do well ?
Okay, honest question: why the hate on Nova? Her Awakening is one of the most fun classes to play in the game; you zip around at 1000MPH with your hair on fire throwing out mid-range nukes with decent protection that's largely centered on Super Armor, so you can just be worn down in Super Armor trades. With the long-term Super Armor on her 3-minute buff, she feels pretty balanced as a duelist, which is her main role. Succession Nova, on the other hand, is better designed for group play, and one of the few classes that can zone-defend in small scale skirmishes effectively against larger numbers. She's a little clunky, I'll admit, but she's not garbage-tier by a long shot. My opinions out of the way, I'm trying to understand why you think she's a failure of game design. She's one of the few classes that plays REALLY differently in Succession and Awakening, in that she goes from a slow, immobile tank with pets to a lightning-fast midrange duelist. Awakening does have the added advantage of being able to bunker down with her shield to use some utility skills for short periods of time, giving a strategic element to that spec. Certainly it's not "failure of game design" territory.
He refers to the fact that accel or no accel makes the playstyle bad, and i agree with him. Accel just makes you a good class when you have it and trash when you dont, it is just not that enjoyable. Cuz you have to always play around one cooldown, which makes it a mixed bag of feelings
Awakening kuno, fucken strong. Try pvp in rbf in season. Awakening wizard/witch is stronger than succession too. You got to understand, some players may have bad gear when compared to other players main that crystal and other upgrades. Season disengages that bias on gear. As for ninja Awakening, I can easily kill a succession berserker no problem and everything in the strong tier. It's not the class, it's the player.
@@Heedun honestly it is very close, not quite as fast, but one to twoshotting standing people with very high mobility while being protected? Not that different.
@@Narabedla4 Give musa a vacuum, ranged grab, 360block, and CCing summons, and higher acc mods, then Id agree that musa is just as strong as nova was at release.
@@sa1lor_jarry139 actually you are right, especially the vaccum made nova even more broken. However the rest is kinda evened out by the fact that musa isn't reliant on a big cd to do his thing.(also a grab nowadays is not nearly as strong/important as it was back then in my experience)
@@Narabedla4 also have to remember how many of those highlight reels were abusing respawn immunity. The cracked damage was more so just icing on the cake. Warrior is also not much different. It has a better kit, high damage (not musa high, but musa should be higher), and really high mobility. It just doesnt disengage like musa can.
Since rework, I never had so much fun playing GvG, Rbf. Even in pve! Love seing that many different class and having to relearn some matchup. Yeah some class are overtune but the fun make me forget that
It's nice that people have these wild opinions shows the game is quite balanced atm. Just hope players don't base their choices from this vid is all. Thanks for the vid! :D
thank god finally someone said, yes u all hate awak Lahn yes her grab broken but stop talking about her like she is good at every pvp.. she is awesome 1v1, awesome pve class (thanks to rework), trash large scale and playable small scale.. and yes succ Lahn, like Heedun said JUST DON'T.. why would u play only pve class when u can play any other perfect pve class also good 1v1 class.
Dislike for awa mystic strong tier. If you are new to the game watching this video don’t get tricked by this guy. You need an extreme gear advantage to do well in large scale and group pvp to do anything. At 650-670 gs, which is what I’d consider the new average req for serious nodewar/siege guilds on NA your 100% better off playing Succ mystic or another class. Only awa mystics left above those requirements grind and dfs only or have 30-50 gs on the average opponent like me. And even then in group pvp awa mystic feels like absolute dog and just swapping over to Succ mystic (despite not playing her for 2 years like I’ve played awa mystic) not only do I get more kills, I have more pressure, more survivability due to seamless Sa rotations, and the kit actually does protected burst damage with medium aoes
As a succession sorc I have to agree: They really fucked that one up, they pretty much just ignored the class completely. Still love her playstyle though and don´t really want to go back to awakening.
As a striker main who sieges, you should put him in the just dont category. Maybe I'm just ass, but my ook ain't worth shit. Stunned and knocked outta SA, damage through s, GRABBED or knocked outta s. Strikers ass rn.
@@sergiolanchazolopez1918 maybe get more then season gear? Litterly the only time this happens is at 300+AP musas blowing people up from the back or when fighting with a rather big GS difference. But i get it, now that even the underdog class cant be brain AFK buttonmashed to death anymore, suddenly dmg becomes an issue. Good thing no other class still blows you up faster at all, like Sage, Succ wiz, Nova, Guardians, Strikers, Warriors, Sorcs, Tamers, Succ Lahns etc done for over a year.
@@SoukenIDK Copium, musa even with less gear can still 2 shot geared players class is just overtuned atm and fiery crevice is the best skill in game atm
@@gosuld Not much Copium here rly. Tho i guess we can all agree that there is to much dmg ingame across the board. Yet i dont see much difference in a Full DP striker killing a full DP shai in a split second, or a Sorc breaking blocks + killing everything infront of her with crows within a sec to a musa blowing you up from behind. But ye, just try it out and you find very quickly that he is far from broken.
I agree about guardian. We were high damage class but right now with this new meta damage classes we hit like sponge. I am speaking generaly about awakening
@@CurseOfDeath guardian didn't even get a reboot, it got one ability buffed from completely useless to "alright" but it didn't get changes to the class like others did
Awk lahn is dumb strong… 50%+ crit on everything, bleed everything without adds, a cone grab, constant heals, a 1 sec I-frame with SA on cool down lulz, they gave her accuracy passive paired with her attack speed for her moving protected 360 cc ☠️
Indeed this is the most ballanced version of the game, classwise, so far, but also the most fucked up version of the game when it comes to AP/DR, in the sense that the only use for DR currently is PvE up to a certain point cause Evasion builds become invulnerable when going just a bit above soft cap, both in PvP and PvE. Nice video! Cheers!
Thats part of the balance. Damage classes with less tools in their kits need more damage (I think casters could use a bit more damage tbh). Buffing DP would negate the reworks for the dead classes that jusy became relevant again.
why ninja succ and awk does not rank high in pvp ?Serpent dmg has been buffed back in 29th and has faster animation, Nova succ is also very good in pvp, shouldnt be last, her minions can stiffen you easily, and musa should be under *broken* LOL
I do question did u read patch notes on mystics numbers? They lost 25-30% dmg in pvp sure got some pve dmg but if same gear will get shit stomped in dfs and now if you cant punch above your weight. (This is awake btw dont know to much about succ)
awa striker is waaay stronger than awa mystic holycow! idk. The only thing that mystic has is the slow thing , everything else strike doing much better now. no this cant be right i cant be that bad even Lahn/Ninja and Hash weaker than awa mystic? maybe i should use my cc much more u know the 20 "downsmash". Atleast our pve is not that bad. AWA MYSTIC IS NOT STRONG IN PVP (not even close). succ mystic i can see that.
Remember neck beards. Its just an opinion, Dont need to start armageddon. Would defo say most of it correct but zerker does need protective kovement, even if some skills lose protection. It will counter against the terrible desync bullish issues. Warrior is well fun from what I played on awakening. Lovely class but you arma hurt after cuz the impact from skills gets you all tense and feeling the impact of every slash 🤣🤣. Hash lad too sick, moves so well and awakening hits like a truck. Switch between awakening and pre awake skills feels good but could be better. Not the feint heated when it comes to sweaty play. Succ hash is lovely to play but quite simples. Needs a few protected CC's 🤣🤣 Gonna try Dark Knight next during the tagging event and see how i feel. Defo keep Hash as main but might go Succ Zerker or DK depending what I like to play.
I watch different tier lists and everybody rates those characters differently. I guess that BDO community has no concept of being objective at all, hence I will ignore your list and I will play whatever the fuck I want
Bravo, I really like it and other than a couple of classes we share the same feelings on most of the list. Everyone that wanted more for their class and are unhappy with the reboot will be in disbelief they ranked so high, looking at you mystics, and anyone getting repeatedly one shot by a class will say it needs to be in the broken category. And I’m glad someone finally pointed out that lahn isn’t as great as people cry about. Looking forward to your sorc revoot guide :D
Imagine making tier lists based on assumptions and predictions rather than facts and actual class's state. Awk Mystic is nearly dead right now. It has no damage, 90% unprotected combos, the best slow was taken off(if you step on dragon's pit and get slowed you just deserved because it's dumb step on that). But then we have to believe and i quote: "I am sure PA is working 24/7 to fix those bugs and the class is going to be functional and as strong as it used to be very soon" ... 1 week later Awk mystic gets another pvp % damage reduction instead of massive buffs. Oh well ... 🤔 Now these are facts about Awk Mystic: - 305kutum can't barely kill 360~370dp (that's myself playing and can provide clips if needed) - 319 kutum can't barely kill people in rbf and sometimes doesn't even kill a musah in BA, which should be one of the squish classes in the game (And this is the clip for the above statement: ruclips.net/video/zSdsDffPK6I/видео.html )
I will say this. This class is very opinionated. I doubt this person brings all these classes into nw/siege. He probably tested these 1v1s and made a tierlist from there, or heard from here say, cause the majority of the public will tell you awaken musa is broken right from the rip. A lot of nerfs have happened to other classes to make bladers playable such as the removal of slows. The simple fact he put mystic alone in strong category is crazy, strong 1v1s yes, strong group play/nw/siege not so much. Again, this tierlist very opinionated. DKs you dont see many of them in siege either, and you can roll them hard in a 1v1 if you just have a grab. I feel like this tierlist is based off of sa trading/ not very common sense engaging or knowing how to disengage off a class or having a lot of classes knowledge. This is the person who helps get classes who need help nerfed, and classes who are strong but calls them weak nerfed. Again this is a 1v1 biased tierlist very much opinionated.
Sorry, I got extremely curious and would like to ask you for a link the the video you saw of the bdo russian server hybrid awk wizard. Thank you and great video!
awa lahn PLAYABLE XD we looking on PvP not nodewars or something its two differtent thinks xD and u put succ wiz and witch in strong ok. Useful tier list
Hello, just a quick question, what class do you recommend for high pings? my guess is some classes that can spam Aoe with SA, and definitely not some classes that highly rely on grabs
I don’t understand bdo at all. Is it mainly a story game. Do most people play through the story mainly or are people just doing pvp and stuff games so in-depth idk how guilds work or nothing or even where to start
@@w.coast_piano6404 Grinding Mobs,Hunt World Bosses,Life Skill (Gathering,Barter,Hunting,Fishing etc) you will learn about these mechanic in season server through seasonpass before you gratduate and then you're ready for real adventure it will be more harder more challenging.
Can u do a PVE teir list as well please 🙏 😔 I just got ps5 and wanna finally be able to play the game smoother than on a slim ps4 so im getting back into the game brand new but it's been like a year now since I played
Nice Tier list..agree with most of it except Awak Mystic being strong..they dont have a lot of protected skills in Awakening pre-reworks..2 out of 3 new skills post-rework are unprotected and both the unprotected skills are super slow animations...just because u fight Mier who is uber geared and eats damage like candy...doesnt mean its strong..the kit is weak... Coming to the other critique...you should stop with this SA on Shadow Eruption being OP...it fills an important role in the Sorc kit...before I go into the reasons...why do u think Sorcs are the last ones standing in 3v3 AoA matches..cause they are too pussy to go into a fight..they stand at the back throwing DoDs...their Rabams although great trading skills lack CCs...Core Violation is a FG and going into a ball with a FG skill is not smart knowing how de-sync can mess things up...Core TBS is a better option and i know thats prolly why u use it (IQ move?)....but it is still a bound...so all Sorcs are doing is pussying out in a fight as their team is getting slaughtered and then showing off their hero survivability as the enemy team chases them down... Enter Shadow Eruption with SA and float...now u have a skill to go into a fight and throw a good protected CC.. not a lame ass bound...hope u see the reason behind this re-work change...also so many other classes have protected engages now...so its not bad to join the bandwagon
when you said "I think PA just hates rangers"i felt impulse to dislike the video but i restrained myself. When i played the game Ranger and Sorc were the most broken classes and Tamer was by far the worst , which is why my life got a lot better when i rerolled. Looking at this list it looks like nothing has changed other than Tamer is now even worse and sorc is even better? at least dk is finally fine, maybe i can get myself a dk waifu already
This is the tierlist for today game, not for what it was 2 years ago, lmao. Maybe start playing it then making comments, ranger was unaplayable before rework patch and hedun tried her and gave up since she dies from 1 skill from other classes.
Nice you are doing a tier list but everything is op at 700 + gs, its a gear game not a skill game, just cause it has good combat that can be used as an excuse to call it "skill", skill should beat gear if it doesnt then its no longer skill. Just wanted to point that out cause its kinda weird seeing a tierlist for a p2w mmo that mainly relies on who has more gear then the other. With the small exception of like 1 or 2 classes that can "perform" at lower gear.
right on and to get geared its either you play with rng or go around in circles. uninstalling as soon as my VP ends. made a mistake of coming back to bdo to try out my new GPU but never again!
It's a MMO. Of course more gear means more stats lol. Stop playing MMOs if you can't accept power creeping. Fortnite is a thing, play that. Hell, even MOBAs.
"Mystic is a incredibly strong class, I'm aware it has some bugs but I'm sure the developers are working 24/7 to fix this" - PA working 24/7 hmm 1 week delay of class reworks for console community says otherwise. Mystic is in a good spot for succession, I can agree with that, we did get some nice changes in our kit and SA on wave orb was really nice that we can trade damage while still not having a protected combo, it's still a great upgrade to the class... But seriously awakening needs a lot more work put in. The new skills are slow af and with pvp resistance cap raised up to 80%, the adamantine meta just shits all over our extended combos now. It doesn't really bother me as a mystic that we take more damage, I think having more mobility is a reasonable trade off but we do not trade damage well in Awakening. Therefore I would say Awakening mystic should be ranked lower in the playable for 1vX small scale and don't play for large scale. Simply put if you're new to the class pick something else because other classes do it better now.
This IS just the point of view of someone playing a broken classe. Sorry to tel that but you can't put awakening witch in same level as awaken striker and lahn and others. Striker IS one of the most broken classes, witch awakening IS bug and can't make kills whitout suicide. Witch awakening can't win a fight agaisnt all the playable class
If your reasoning to put rangers into "Just don't" is that being good at only one does not cut it, please do the same to Witch and Wizard. All they are good at is heal bots and nothing else. They are probably the weakest class right now.
agreed. and the spec just got completed by frontal and sa added to blackwave and se. bonus frontal on claw. Succ sorc so strong on pve right now. She also does fine on Pvp but required lots of gear i think
I waited for the removal of the dislike button to make a tier list
Little does he know, with a simple addon, its back. And unlike a certain lotion cop, this shit wont get disliked
LMAO
typical 200IQ sorc
89 dislikes atm :)
92 now. It's way easier for a content creator to hide behind a non see dislike wall then get the facts straight before make a tierlist.
2:14 Tamer
2:47 Archer
3:22 Dark Knight
4:05 Guardian
5:28 Hashashin
6:11 Kunoichi
6:57 Lahn
7:56 Maehwa
8:27 Musa
10:11 Nova
11:30 Mystic
12:22 Striker
13:11 Berserker
14:55 Sorceress
15:41 Witch
17:08 Wizard
17:44 Ninja
18:20 Ranger
19:19 Valkyrie
20:20 Warrior
21:11 Sage
21:22 Corsair
21:26 Conclusion
22:06 SHAI
Thank you!
Thanks !
You're a saint
You should be paid
i appreciate tier lists with comments on each entry instead of a random number system or just putting classes in SSS tier of F tier without explanation. good video
Honestly makes potionshop list look accurate
kek
true
wouldnt go that far lol
Toxic. :D
And it's still wrong, awakening mystic in strong
I think succession ranger should be in playable, she is strong in her own role in nodes/siegies/big pvp/rbf, due to the damage itself.
However awakening is indeed weird, i fits in just dont because the amount of knowledge and skill required for this class to be playable is just not worth the time to invest.
You may be wrong on mystic, since she has a lot of bugs.
However everything else is on point.
It's a shame how they dealt with Awakening Nova. It needed nerfs a *long* time ago and I feel like their vision for the class is all wrong. I agree that being a 3 minute class makes it boring, like you said. I still main Nova, I still love it. But I wish they instead treated accel like a different "mode" rather than a straight buff to every skill. For example, they could make non-accel more protected with access to CC and make accel faster with more damage but less protected and less CC (edit: I should clarify, not faster or more damage than what it has now - just faster/higher damage than non-accel as it already is). Maybe they could even lock out certain skills in one or the other (for example, no vacuums or grab in accel). Essentially make it a class that switches between two playstyles every 30 seconds. But instead they went in the 3-minute class direction.
Awk Mystic strong? bruh that's the funniest joke i heard today..
I feed on the hate from Mystic, I'M GROWING STRONGER EVERY DAY 😈
@@Heedun no hate bro. love ur content. I'm just saying the truth. Suc mystic is very good but awk mystic is in a really bad spot.
Think I have to send him the audio I recorded the other day of Mir and I just hating on awakened mystic for a solid 2 hours
I play awaken witch on t1, t2+, and in siege. Awaken witch is viable on large scale only if its capped content like mediah or valencia siege, or capped NW like t1. Otherwise its large scale potential outside of its utility is horrible. Even with new ranged poke its long range dmg is limited and small. Close range it has to rotate SA to function and stand still in a 1 shot meta. Its damage is still sub par atm with rework and lets not forget about its split damage. You are lucky to get 2 skills off before dying. Mobility wise it has next to nothing, 1 tp to either position, use to attack, or use to defend. The more gear you go against, the more awaken witch falls off. It turns out standing still with this much gear in the game and no mobility is a bad combo lol. But yeah besides its utility I think its not that playable since there is very little in the kit atm to help you in this meta and what it does have is very lacking. If you are fighting any guild over 660gs avg, GL. Can't 1v1, can't ball v ball cause you insta die. Capped awaken witch on siege is playable though :)
Oh and fix awaken witch dmg, its so bad atm it feels bugged (inb4 the 1 comment about how someone can kill their ranger friend)
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@@HouseTre007 :(
The damage on awakened castor is bugged out rn for example voltaic as a skill always had low low damage.. but the pet flow didn’t and did all the damage.. with the removal of pet damage and flows all we have as is base skill damage and now the class doesn’t do damage: they will fix it though . Also pets aren’t taking on skill addons or ext buffs like food etc. there’s some doubt even buffs from crystals are applying as intended. And with the classes limited mobility and so much damage in game for a class reliant on FGs which melt, and easy for high mobility to wrap around FGs. Or on a SA skill you don’t have the mobility or cancels to avoid blowing up in SA . All are issues PA is aware of tho.
@@janeway7953 "All are issues PA is aware of tho." Unbugged damage still wont make awaken witch viable in terms of mobility or how the class was designed to play. Even before rework it was rough. We got 1 backwards SA tp that is slow to cast and has super tiny movement distance and gap at the end. There is legit too much dmg and gear in the game to play awaken witch how it was designed. If they are aware they just don't seem to care. Mobility wise, you have a class with single tp in the same game they design novas and corsairs in. But yeah, that all being said, would at least be nice to have some damage in the 1-2 skills before we die :(
Yea PA's plan for balance was "if we make the 1shot meta even worse than truly everyone can 1shot everyone. Therefore balance"
R we really praising them for making the single biggest problem with pvp even worse? And like significantly worse not just a little worse
Not me only realizing after 19:54 that this is a PvP Tier list .. I was wondering why you never said anything about PVE :D I am so dumb.
But amazing video and your ranking makes so much sense and it`s nice how you explained why on every aspect.
I never thought I would live long enough to hear "guardian doesn't do enough damage".
...I just do not understand what's going on here.
Awakening Mystic does not function in any of the content. Its ungodly bugged with shard management, PvP damage getting applied in PvE, one of the two new skills being completedly useless, and the numbers all around being significantly bad than anyone else. This is exactly what Tamer is suffering from, and you put them into ''just don't'' list.
You cant just put a class (awak in this case) into ''strong'' category while it DOES NOT function, and I don't understand how ''it will be fixed in the future'' justifies that. The bugs on awakening are only one part of a massive problem...
If we gonna start making tier lists based on assumptions of the future, might as well put everyone into playable category.
its completely reasonable. when did PA ever care about tamer and fixed or did something to help tamer players? Right, never! and mystic is indeed still very strong. this is a pvp list. and PVE and the issues in pve dont play a role in this list. Mystic is still super tanky, has CC for days and also has some really sweet dmg. obviously its not musa/dk dmg.. but for a class that doesnt die to anything, CCs everything and has dmg to finish off opponents is just really good. and you guys have to accept that
I agree.
Succ mystic is upper playable to low strong imo for large scale. Strong for 1v1. Strong for 1vX. The same can’t be said for awakening mystic. Awakening mystic is more like strong for 1v1. Just dont for large scale. Playable for 1vX given you have +30-50 gs on your opponents. Awakening mystics are down bad
I still shit on sorcs though
@@MrDoit187 say that to my -73%, -75.9% pvp modifiers. have you seen any awakening mystic pvp lately? it's ok on low GS. Compared to succ or other classes, 650gs+ it has barely any pvp damage on 1v1 yet alone large scale.
@@jins5108 weil if you wanna be a damage dealer, then dont play awakening mystic. Awakening mystic has always been a tanky cc bot. Thats the class design. If you wanna kill people play something else. Seems like you need to reroll :P
quite different from reality but i appreciate your opinion, nice vid
I agree shai is the most broken class currently
Lol alrighty y’all keep say tht she may be nerfed again 😂
@@eagled4790 Why nerf? She cannot defense her spot.
@@vietdang5756 bro it was joke I play Consol and I’ve played her since she launched and I have been begging for them to add and black desert mobile skills into existing skills that would work Literally the same Just different colors it was literally just a joke
Who paid u to put awk mystic there? I can probly pay more
yes i agree mystic should be higher up
Y'all are malding like crazy about a tier list that is subjective while he explained his point of view and opinions about every single class in the game (except Shai for obvious reasons).
Agree or not, Musa is not as Strong as it's predecessors. Being able to one hit you like any other class is not as bad as being able to range CC, range damage, teleport around, heal , give PA or even mentioning Nova. He is not as oppressive as she is, he lacks the grab, he lacks the s. He's not that good in certain matchups.
For the rest, his tier list is subjective, just because you guys think a class is not strong, or is strong doesn't mean that this is the point of view of everyone. Most of my friends consider Guardian to be overpowered because they don't know how to deal with her and play non grab classes. Does it mean guardian is broken ? Of course not. Same thing, you guys might lack the gear, the pvp experience or even the skills to judge a class at full potential. Sadly ranger is one of the best duelists as awakening with the rework when played to perfection in my opinion. Does it mean it's broken? Does it mean I would recommend it ? No.
Y'all should calm your tits it's a tier list in a videogame, just because your class is ranked highly but you think otherwise (maybe because you suck) doesn't mean that you should be hating on someone for saying something that goes against your opinion.
Honestly Im so glad to finally see ppl play dk and consider her as good without following ppl with outdated information and opinions about her because she really is good now
cringe class takes negative skill
@@WaveOrb let’s 1v1 then let me see how easy dk is ^^
lets just ignore mystic ranking, you can smell the hate and bias oozing out if him xD
yes
Frick mystics
kekker im a mystic tag with a meme build of 277ap with tons of dp and can almost one combo full c20 evasion stroker at 420 dp
@@yakoolza3958 What's that combo? Is that an unrealistic recc combo? I heard that mystic damage is actually bad and if it's not true I may wanna tag her and try it
@@itachi9786 awk is terrible damage wise, succ mystic fucking destroys people
Probably the single worst tier list ive seen, good job
Make one and send it to me.
Guardian,giant,striker,warrior,Musa,maehwa,drakania which one is stronger for PVE GRIND ?
Tbh suc wizard is weak idk what they did but they nerfed its damage and left it incredibly squishy. In large scale where it's suppose to reign king its dog.
And Musa is broken. I don't think anyone in NA would disagree.
Awakening wizard is much better than succesion imo, much more damage, much more aoe, more protections, just less mobility and range, but the range in succession is useless as you need to get near in some moment, and the mobility is a bit better but still a weak point just like awakening, I play wizard since 2017 and I find awakening better for everything, pve, pvp 1vs1 and node wars
People are traumatized from it being meta for so long that people think they're still op. My meteor does less damage than bolide. They needed cataclysm in awk to shit. And for wiz to be worth a shot you absolutely need 293+ ap to do what other classes will do to you at 277. But if theyeven slightly buff wiz the community will have a heart attack.
I strongly disagree on nova succession she is extremely strong
Yes succ is OP
used to , now every tanky class got down ez
Hmm when you were reviewing musa, you make mention of awk sage being oppressive but then towards the end mention sage is the just don’t tier list. Is the awakened sage oppressive in its strength and power or oppressive in the term that is harsh to do well ?
Okay, honest question: why the hate on Nova? Her Awakening is one of the most fun classes to play in the game; you zip around at 1000MPH with your hair on fire throwing out mid-range nukes with decent protection that's largely centered on Super Armor, so you can just be worn down in Super Armor trades. With the long-term Super Armor on her 3-minute buff, she feels pretty balanced as a duelist, which is her main role.
Succession Nova, on the other hand, is better designed for group play, and one of the few classes that can zone-defend in small scale skirmishes effectively against larger numbers. She's a little clunky, I'll admit, but she's not garbage-tier by a long shot.
My opinions out of the way, I'm trying to understand why you think she's a failure of game design. She's one of the few classes that plays REALLY differently in Succession and Awakening, in that she goes from a slow, immobile tank with pets to a lightning-fast midrange duelist. Awakening does have the added advantage of being able to bunker down with her shield to use some utility skills for short periods of time, giving a strategic element to that spec.
Certainly it's not "failure of game design" territory.
He refers to the fact that accel or no accel makes the playstyle bad, and i agree with him. Accel just makes you a good class when you have it and trash when you dont, it is just not that enjoyable. Cuz you have to always play around one cooldown, which makes it a mixed bag of feelings
Where is sage and Corsair in the tier list
My thought exactly :(
He mentioned sage don't play / corsair playable
Awakening kuno, fucken strong. Try pvp in rbf in season. Awakening wizard/witch is stronger than succession too. You got to understand, some players may have bad gear when compared to other players main that crystal and other upgrades. Season disengages that bias on gear. As for ninja Awakening, I can easily kill a succession berserker no problem and everything in the strong tier. It's not the class, it's the player.
I can appreciate your opinionated tier list, but if Musa is not "Broken" on your scale, the rest of the list must be copium.
You'd say Musa is as strong as Nova was at its peak?
@@Heedun honestly it is very close, not quite as fast, but one to twoshotting standing people with very high mobility while being protected? Not that different.
@@Narabedla4 Give musa a vacuum, ranged grab, 360block, and CCing summons, and higher acc mods, then Id agree that musa is just as strong as nova was at release.
@@sa1lor_jarry139 actually you are right, especially the vaccum made nova even more broken.
However the rest is kinda evened out by the fact that musa isn't reliant on a big cd to do his thing.(also a grab nowadays is not nearly as strong/important as it was back then in my experience)
@@Narabedla4 also have to remember how many of those highlight reels were abusing respawn immunity. The cracked damage was more so just icing on the cake. Warrior is also not much different. It has a better kit, high damage (not musa high, but musa should be higher), and really high mobility. It just doesnt disengage like musa can.
Since rework, I never had so much fun playing GvG, Rbf. Even in pve!
Love seing that many different class and having to relearn some matchup.
Yeah some class are overtune but the fun make me forget that
can't believe you put Musa, DK and Sorc in the same level as god damn Witch Succession.
It's nice that people have these wild opinions shows the game is quite balanced atm. Just hope players don't base their choices from this vid is all. Thanks for the vid! :D
thank god finally someone said, yes u all hate awak Lahn yes her grab broken but stop talking about her like she is good at every pvp.. she is awesome 1v1, awesome pve class (thanks to rework), trash large scale and playable small scale.. and yes succ Lahn, like Heedun said JUST DON'T.. why would u play only pve class when u can play any other perfect pve class also good 1v1 class.
Dislike for awa mystic strong tier. If you are new to the game watching this video don’t get tricked by this guy. You need an extreme gear advantage to do well in large scale and group pvp to do anything. At 650-670 gs, which is what I’d consider the new average req for serious nodewar/siege guilds on NA your 100% better off playing Succ mystic or another class. Only awa mystics left above those requirements grind and dfs only or have 30-50 gs on the average opponent like me. And even then in group pvp awa mystic feels like absolute dog and just swapping over to Succ mystic (despite not playing her for 2 years like I’ve played awa mystic) not only do I get more kills, I have more pressure, more survivability due to seamless Sa rotations, and the kit actually does protected burst damage with medium aoes
Facts!
As a succession sorc I have to agree: They really fucked that one up, they pretty much just ignored the class completely. Still love her playstyle though and don´t really want to go back to awakening.
As a striker main who sieges, you should put him in the just dont category. Maybe I'm just ass, but my ook ain't worth shit. Stunned and knocked outta SA, damage through s, GRABBED or knocked outta s. Strikers ass rn.
Is Shai good in pvp after rework? Unfortunately waited whole video to see what he had to say and it wasn't helpful...
She will never be good at pvp
Nah I play musa and the succession is just as strong as the awak in pve and in pvp 1 vs 1 it is very strong, in massive pvp it is opportunistic
Shai flavour of the game until they chop off some wheels from the skateboard
what tier list is this?
1v1? small scale? or large scale?
judging from your broken class you will never see our point of view compared to your broken class
Will you make for pve end-game tier list?
Nothing more humiliating than a shai CCing you and KickFlipping her Boomerang on your body.
Witch strong in LS? I got one shot in PA… and you can’t heal guildies who are one shot
Mystic and DK above striker , warrior and berserker ?
Bit of a cheap twist ignoring musa damage just in case they might eventually nerf it. Other than that interesting list.
why? because he now has around the dmg of other classes IF you get behind targets?
@@SoukenIDK no, because it onetaps u by looking in your direction
@@sergiolanchazolopez1918 maybe get more then season gear?
Litterly the only time this happens is at 300+AP musas blowing people up from the back or when fighting with a rather big GS difference.
But i get it, now that even the underdog class cant be brain AFK buttonmashed to death anymore, suddenly dmg becomes an issue.
Good thing no other class still blows you up faster at all, like Sage, Succ wiz, Nova, Guardians, Strikers, Warriors, Sorcs, Tamers, Succ Lahns etc done for over a year.
@@SoukenIDK Copium, musa even with less gear can still 2 shot geared players class is just overtuned atm and fiery crevice is the best skill in game atm
@@gosuld Not much Copium here rly. Tho i guess we can all agree that there is to much dmg ingame across the board.
Yet i dont see much difference in a Full DP striker killing a full DP shai in a split second, or a Sorc breaking blocks + killing everything infront of her with crows within a sec to a musa blowing you up from behind.
But ye, just try it out and you find very quickly that he is far from broken.
Dang man, respectfully I disagree, pretty heavily in fact. Thanks for the video nonetheless.
I agree about guardian. We were high damage class but right now with this new meta damage classes we hit like sponge. I am speaking generaly about awakening
Awk dmg was garbage even before rework
which is the new meta
@@CurseOfDeath guardian didn't even get a reboot, it got one ability buffed from completely useless to "alright" but it didn't get changes to the class like others did
@@Saintlel some succ skills received a damage buff
I liked your breakdown. I also was confused seeing many other tier lists rank wizard and witch so low.
Mystic is stronger than Striker?
she isnt this guy is just a clown and a mystic hater
@@WaveOrb oh okay, didn't think so either. I was just wondering, cuz this is the only guy I've heard say that 😆 🤣
Awk lahn is dumb strong… 50%+ crit on everything, bleed everything without adds, a cone grab, constant heals, a 1 sec I-frame with SA on cool down lulz, they gave her accuracy passive paired with her attack speed for her moving protected 360 cc ☠️
Won’t stop her getting 2 shot by a Musa.
Indeed this is the most ballanced version of the game, classwise, so far, but also the most fucked up version of the game when it comes to AP/DR, in the sense that the only use for DR currently is PvE up to a certain point cause Evasion builds become invulnerable when going just a bit above soft cap, both in PvP and PvE.
Nice video!
Cheers!
Yeap, they should just release a game mode where gear doesn't matter like in Lost Ark or Guildwars 2.
@@Danilocked no pls no
Thats part of the balance. Damage classes with less tools in their kits need more damage (I think casters could use a bit more damage tbh). Buffing DP would negate the reworks for the dead classes that jusy became relevant again.
why ninja succ and awk does not rank high in pvp ?Serpent dmg has been buffed back in 29th and has faster animation, Nova succ is also very good in pvp, shouldnt be last, her minions can stiffen you easily, and musa should be under *broken* LOL
Finally, someone got it, Awk. Mystic is still broken! I said that for years ..
I do question did u read patch notes on mystics numbers? They lost 25-30% dmg in pvp sure got some pve dmg but if same gear will get shit stomped in dfs and now if you cant punch above your weight. (This is awake btw dont know to much about succ)
@@septimus3679 yeah just imagine getting a 30% dmg nerf and still being one of the best classes in the game
@@noxsuspe6922 Lol there’s no way u think mystic is even playable in pvp
Awa mystic is in the "just don't" tier.
I know nothing about this game... But Shai is really THAT bad? :( It's my main
awa striker is waaay stronger than awa mystic holycow! idk. The only thing that mystic has is the slow thing , everything else strike doing much better now. no this cant be right i cant be that bad even Lahn/Ninja and Hash weaker than awa mystic? maybe i should use my cc much more u know the 20 "downsmash". Atleast our pve is not that bad. AWA MYSTIC IS NOT STRONG IN PVP (not even close). succ mystic i can see that.
Nah awa mystic is trash tier and has no redeeming qualities over succ besides vacuum. Succ mystic was and is strong even if a bit underrated.
Succ Nova is busted as hell on Console
Remember neck beards. Its just an opinion, Dont need to start armageddon.
Would defo say most of it correct but zerker does need protective kovement, even if some skills lose protection. It will counter against the terrible desync bullish issues.
Warrior is well fun from what I played on awakening. Lovely class but you arma hurt after cuz the impact from skills gets you all tense and feeling the impact of every slash 🤣🤣.
Hash lad too sick, moves so well and awakening hits like a truck. Switch between awakening and pre awake skills feels good but could be better. Not the feint heated when it comes to sweaty play.
Succ hash is lovely to play but quite simples. Needs a few protected CC's 🤣🤣
Gonna try Dark Knight next during the tagging event and see how i feel. Defo keep Hash as main but might go Succ Zerker or DK depending what I like to play.
REEEEEEEEE!!!!!
I watch different tier lists and everybody rates those characters differently. I guess that BDO community has no concept of being objective at all, hence I will ignore your list and I will play whatever the fuck I want
Like you should
Bravo, I really like it and other than a couple of classes we share the same feelings on most of the list. Everyone that wanted more for their class and are unhappy with the reboot will be in disbelief they ranked so high, looking at you mystics, and anyone getting repeatedly one shot by a class will say it needs to be in the broken category.
And I’m glad someone finally pointed out that lahn isn’t as great as people cry about.
Looking forward to your sorc revoot guide :D
Imagine making tier lists based on assumptions and predictions rather than facts and actual class's state.
Awk Mystic is nearly dead right now. It has no damage, 90% unprotected combos, the best slow was taken off(if you step on dragon's pit and get slowed you just deserved because it's dumb step on that).
But then we have to believe and i quote: "I am sure PA is working 24/7 to fix those bugs and the class is going to be functional and as strong as it used to be very soon" ... 1 week later Awk mystic gets another pvp % damage reduction instead of massive buffs. Oh well ... 🤔
Now these are facts about Awk Mystic:
- 305kutum can't barely kill 360~370dp (that's myself playing and can provide clips if needed)
- 319 kutum can't barely kill people in rbf and sometimes doesn't even kill a musah in BA, which should be one of the squish classes in the game
(And this is the clip for the above statement: ruclips.net/video/zSdsDffPK6I/видео.html )
I want to start the game any classes for F2P beginners full pve ?! I don't like pvp
I will say this. This class is very opinionated. I doubt this person brings all these classes into nw/siege. He probably tested these 1v1s and made a tierlist from there, or heard from here say, cause the majority of the public will tell you awaken musa is broken right from the rip. A lot of nerfs have happened to other classes to make bladers playable such as the removal of slows. The simple fact he put mystic alone in strong category is crazy, strong 1v1s yes, strong group play/nw/siege not so much. Again, this tierlist very opinionated. DKs you dont see many of them in siege either, and you can roll them hard in a 1v1 if you just have a grab. I feel like this tierlist is based off of sa trading/ not very common sense engaging or knowing how to disengage off a class or having a lot of classes knowledge. This is the person who helps get classes who need help nerfed, and classes who are strong but calls them weak nerfed. Again this is a 1v1 biased tierlist very much opinionated.
This is hilarious because it's actually you who is doing everything u just accused him of
Sorry, I got extremely curious and would like to ask you for a link the the video you saw of the bdo russian server hybrid awk wizard. Thank you and great video!
Rusia is attacking Ucrania
What's your opinion about Dark Knight Awakening?
na must have a different meta from eu
For sure, always have been like that
@@Heedun what classes do u guys stack for wars
Oh yeah I forgot Shai. She has a skateboard, she’s broken 🤣🤣🤣
No Corsair or sage??
I wanted to check if I should pick shai and that’s the only one he didn’t talked about 😅
What’s the current status?
As a Shai main im strongly agree with the his tier xD
Agree about shai skateboard, need nerf.
Why nerf? 15s cooldown is too long.
awa lahn PLAYABLE XD we looking on PvP not nodewars or something its two differtent thinks xD and u put succ wiz and witch in strong ok.
Useful tier list
YES THE SKATEBOARD, IT REALLY DO BE BROKEN LMAO
Guys, chill. This dude is living in the alt reality.
Im between dk and sorc for must play solo pvp pve Any advice thbks
Sorceress or Kuno?
Everyone doing big damage. BDO fun again
Hello, just a quick question, what class do you recommend for high pings? my guess is some classes that can spam Aoe with SA, and definitely not some classes that highly rely on grabs
valk succ got nerfed and have no accuracy. She 's playable
is sorceress succ really that bad?
Best class for hadum boss rush?
I don’t understand bdo at all. Is it mainly a story game. Do most people play through the story mainly or are people just doing pvp and stuff games so in-depth idk how guilds work or nothing or even where to start
It's a Sandbox MMORPG. you can do whatever you want.
Just play season server and find pve guild or watching a guide there's a plenty on youtube.
@@Ra7eNzTH how do I join a guild good sir
@@Ra7eNzTH and what do people do in pve guilds. Bosses and grinds ?
@@w.coast_piano6404 just press G and looking for a guild newbie friendly with no req
@@w.coast_piano6404 Grinding Mobs,Hunt World Bosses,Life Skill (Gathering,Barter,Hunting,Fishing etc)
you will learn about these mechanic in season server through seasonpass before you gratduate and then you're ready for real adventure it will be more harder more challenging.
heedun is on hard copium putting awak mystic as strong
Sage? Or did I miss it?
Sage: Just Don't...but I did...and ouch.
Can u do a PVE teir list as well please 🙏 😔 I just got ps5 and wanna finally be able to play the game smoother than on a slim ps4 so im getting back into the game brand new but it's been like a year now since I played
Im awk hash and I eat most of the strong class for breakfast
I was waiting for a shai joke, didn't get disappointed
apparently u havnt 1v1d a succ nova :D the class is straight up broken. such a cheese class
Nice Tier list..agree with most of it except Awak Mystic being strong..they dont have a lot of protected skills in Awakening pre-reworks..2 out of 3 new skills post-rework are unprotected and both the unprotected skills are super slow animations...just because u fight Mier who is uber geared and eats damage like candy...doesnt mean its strong..the kit is weak...
Coming to the other critique...you should stop with this SA on Shadow Eruption being OP...it fills an important role in the Sorc kit...before I go into the reasons...why do u think Sorcs are the last ones standing in 3v3 AoA matches..cause they are too pussy to go into a fight..they stand at the back throwing DoDs...their Rabams although great trading skills lack CCs...Core Violation is a FG and going into a ball with a FG skill is not smart knowing how de-sync can mess things up...Core TBS is a better option and i know thats prolly why u use it (IQ move?)....but it is still a bound...so all Sorcs are doing is pussying out in a fight as their team is getting slaughtered and then showing off their hero survivability as the enemy team chases them down...
Enter Shadow Eruption with SA and float...now u have a skill to go into a fight and throw a good protected CC.. not a lame ass bound...hope u see the reason behind this re-work change...also so many other classes have protected engages now...so its not bad to join the bandwagon
when you said "I think PA just hates rangers"i felt impulse to dislike the video but i restrained myself. When i played the game Ranger and Sorc were the most broken classes and Tamer was by far the worst , which is why my life got a lot better when i rerolled. Looking at this list it looks like nothing has changed other than Tamer is now even worse and sorc is even better?
at least dk is finally fine, maybe i can get myself a dk waifu already
This is the tierlist for today game, not for what it was 2 years ago, lmao.
Maybe start playing it then making comments, ranger was unaplayable before rework patch and hedun tried her and gave up since she dies from 1 skill from other classes.
ranger was broken like in 2017 or so lol, until awakening was released, then improved a little bit when succession was released but not much
Yes guardian succ is trash pls buff.
Gotta love all the people complaining in the comments KEKW
Im appreciating the memes my man, EU MASTER REGION
Nice you are doing a tier list but everything is op at 700 + gs, its a gear game not a skill game, just cause it has good combat that can be used as an excuse to call it "skill", skill should beat gear if it doesnt then its no longer skill. Just wanted to point that out cause its kinda weird seeing a tierlist for a p2w mmo that mainly relies on who has more gear then the other. With the small exception of like 1 or 2 classes that can "perform" at lower gear.
right on and to get geared its either you play with rng or go around in circles. uninstalling as soon as my VP ends. made a mistake of coming back to bdo to try out my new GPU but never again!
It's a MMO. Of course more gear means more stats lol. Stop playing MMOs if you can't accept power creeping. Fortnite is a thing, play that. Hell, even MOBAs.
Where is corsair?
Literally the best class in small scale and great skirmisher Awak Lahn in playable? This tierlist is bullshit.
"Mystic is a incredibly strong class, I'm aware it has some bugs but I'm sure the developers are working 24/7 to fix this"
- PA working 24/7 hmm 1 week delay of class reworks for console community says otherwise.
Mystic is in a good spot for succession, I can agree with that, we did get some nice changes in our kit and SA on wave orb was really nice that we can trade damage while still not having a protected combo, it's still a great upgrade to the class...
But seriously awakening needs a lot more work put in. The new skills are slow af and with pvp resistance cap raised up to 80%, the adamantine meta just shits all over our extended combos now.
It doesn't really bother me as a mystic that we take more damage, I think having more mobility is a reasonable trade off but we do not trade damage well in Awakening. Therefore I would say Awakening mystic should be ranked lower in the playable for 1vX small scale and don't play for large scale. Simply put if you're new to the class pick something else because other classes do it better now.
This IS just the point of view of someone playing a broken classe. Sorry to tel that but you can't put awakening witch in same level as awaken striker and lahn and others. Striker IS one of the most broken classes, witch awakening IS bug and can't make kills whitout suicide. Witch awakening can't win a fight agaisnt all the playable class
If your reasoning to put rangers into "Just don't" is that being good at only one does not cut it, please do the same to Witch and Wizard. All they are good at is heal bots and nothing else. They are probably the weakest class right now.
Bruh sorc succ is bad? What a joke I played sorc succ until now that class really fun to play and i got stroomtroper using sorc succ
agreed. and the spec just got completed by frontal and sa added to blackwave and se. bonus frontal on claw. Succ sorc so strong on pve right now. She also does fine on Pvp but required lots of gear i think