I usually use that little rectangle piece of white tape that holds the tail end on the new spool. Once I tie the line on the reel, I cut that tape in half and use it to hold the line on the reel while I spool it on. The mono backer is a great idea that I've never used before lol
Your timing is perfect sir. Trying to get out and do some pan fishing and I’m trying 6lb braid for the first time. I spooled the line and it got tangled to the mono I put down first so I can’t get a full cast without the line hanging up. Thanks much!
Thanks! I spooled some 20 pound braid on one of my salt water reels today. I used 15 pound mono as a backer because that big reel can hold lots of line. I also don't want the chance of slippage on the spool. 🎣
One of the few videos that shows how to do it right. Most videos, even by 'pros', tell people to pull from the face of the filler spool thinking eliminating twist on the reel spool is a good thing not realizing after a few dozen casts, or the first line break, the first 100' or so gets twisted back on the spool anyway. And who wants a couple hundred twists between the reel and their next PB? THUMBS UP!
Being slightly over my mid '70's it humbles me to actually learn new tips and techniques. And I thought my Dad taught me everything I needed to know about fishing... Until I came across your channel, OK perhaps things do change LoL. I have never given any thought about the pre-loading of mono on my spinning reels befre adding the Braidesd line. That would be a great use for "out of date", or used and abused mono. I do have a question, do you think putting slightly more tension on the mono to get a tighter 'wrap' under the Braided line would really make a difference in keeping the braided line from slipping between the mono? I say yes, she who must be obeyed says not really. There are two new RAPALA lures and my latest refurbished Mitchel model 30 on the line here... P.S. I like the idea of your line tensioner, however I have been in electronics my whole career {retired EE} and have what is called "Technician Fingers" on my thumb and next 2 fingers, this was caused by pulling and testing hot tubes in equipment, the tubes went years ago, but the calluses remain, I will still make o ne and give these tired fingers a rest.
Grab pot and lid with hole for steam on it from kitchen. Fill up with water. Toss braid line in and pull through that small hole and Rock and Go . Works well too
if you forget to flip the bail and tie the new line onto the reel all you have to do is remove the reel spool from the reel, flip the bail and reinstall the reel spool. easy.
usually reel come with specification like line capacity based pounds-diameter mm so I was wondering can you not follow those spec, like for example i have this seahawk ionic 500 size spinning reel which is clearly for ultralight but the spec here recommend specific braid line product with specific pounds-diameter mm. say it want me to go for 6LB-195yrd but can I go below that like 2LB braid instead? will there be problem?
What about with heavy catfish reels? I’m putting 65 pound braid on a reel for river fishing at a dam and mono that test is way thicker. If I get to the backing fighting a big fish and it’s lighter test I’m going to get snapped.
Does it matter about the pounds of the mono and braid let’s say I use 12lb mono and 20 lb braid does it matter? And does it matter what pole as long as I don’t over do it?
You don’t have to match the braid and leader sizes. And yes, the rod does matter. You always want some flex in the rod if you intend to hook fish with braid on small hooks.
Using electrical tape does the trick. I have had the braid slice or break through the backer mono. I never worry about costs because my braided line typically lasts me about a year if i rinse it after every trip
One way to keep down the cost if you are using all braid is once you figure you’ve gotten about the usable lifespan on the braid, you’re really only talking about the first half of the line that’s been in the water. If you pull the line off the reel and then reverse it so that the old top of your braid is tied to the reel, you’ll end up with the top half or third of the line will be fresh unused braid that was just sitting on the base of the reel acting as the backer.
That reel is actually braid ready, no mono needed. That's why there is rubber on the reel...You can use mono so you don't have to use as much braid but straight braid won't slip on that particular reel....
Also have to be careful with those Daiwa mono estimates. If you look at the line diameter on the spool (.28mm for 12lb) vs. the typical diameter of line the same lb (.33-.36mm for 12lb) you'll notice it's much thinner. Daiwa bases their estimates off their own brand line and you won't get the same capacity if you use something else. It's deceiving because they only show the diameter on the physical spool, not on the online specs for their reels. People end up buying the wrong reel size if they bought it based on the mono estimates and in this case misjudge how much backing to put on. Their braid seems to be the same as other brands so not affected there.
This is like trying to get line twist. This technique is good for casting reels but not spinning reels. The line should come off the spool counter clockwise.
completely wrong way to put line on a fixed spool reel, he's putting half a twist in the line with every revolution..you always lay the new line spool flat on the floor so it comes off the spool the same way as the reel is revolving
@@calebwistad I should add, my spinning reel only holds 150yds of 10lb braid, so I find it unnecessary for a backer. If your reel holds double that or amore , I would definetely fill it up with mono first to save some money.
I agree. It’s better to spool up a spinning reel with the spool flat on a table so that the line comes off the spool in the same direction that it goes on to the reel, to avoid line twist. The technique in this video is good for spooling up a bait casting reel.
Ummm… I could start a list of problems that braid solves but it would be pretty long. Braid has also been around for over 30 years now and has overtaken mono as the most popular line by far, so to say it’s “just a trend” is pure silliness. 😂
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Like that tensioner design!! Cool video
Thanks! Pretty simple but it works great.
I usually use that little rectangle piece of white tape that holds the tail end on the new spool. Once I tie the line on the reel, I cut that tape in half and use it to hold the line on the reel while I spool it on. The mono backer is a great idea that I've never used before lol
Interesting. I’m sure that would work!
An Alberto Knot to splice the mono and braid is stronger than the double uni. It is also smoother going through the guides.
Your timing is perfect sir. Trying to get out and do some pan fishing and I’m trying 6lb braid for the first time. I spooled the line and it got tangled to the mono I put down first so I can’t get a full cast without the line hanging up. Thanks much!
Good deal! I’m glad you found the video helpful.
Thanks! I spooled some 20 pound braid on one of my salt water reels today. I used 15 pound mono as a backer because that big reel can hold lots of line. I also don't want the chance of slippage on the spool. 🎣
Right on!
One of the few videos that shows how to do it right. Most videos, even by 'pros', tell people to pull from the face of the filler spool thinking eliminating twist on the reel spool is a good thing not realizing after a few dozen casts, or the first line break, the first 100' or so gets twisted back on the spool anyway. And who wants a couple hundred twists between the reel and their next PB? THUMBS UP!
Thank you very much! 🙏
Being slightly over my mid '70's it humbles me to actually learn new tips and techniques. And I thought my Dad taught me everything I needed to know about fishing... Until I came across your channel, OK perhaps things do change LoL. I have never given any thought about the pre-loading of mono on my spinning reels befre adding the Braidesd line. That would be a great use for "out of date", or used and abused mono. I do have a question, do you think putting slightly more tension on the mono to get a tighter 'wrap' under the Braided line would really make a difference in keeping the braided line from slipping between the mono? I say yes, she who must be obeyed says not really. There are two new RAPALA lures and my latest refurbished Mitchel model 30 on the line here... P.S. I like the idea of your line tensioner, however I have been in electronics my whole career {retired EE} and have what is called "Technician Fingers" on my thumb and next 2 fingers, this was caused by pulling and testing hot tubes in equipment, the tubes went years ago, but the calluses remain, I will still make o
ne and give these tired fingers a rest.
I’m glad you enjoyed the video! It’s always best to get good tight wraps on all the line on your real for best results. Tight lines man!
Wish I would have watched this before spooling 2 reels with light braid for the first time... lesson learned.
Now you know!
Grab pot and lid with hole for steam on it from kitchen. Fill up with water. Toss braid line in and pull through that small hole and Rock and Go . Works well too
Yes it does!
may i recommend the alberto knot for braid to mono
The Alberto is a great knot as well.
Time to crack a 🍺 and watch.
Yeah buddy!
Good video man
Thanks!
if you forget to flip the bail and tie the new line onto the reel all you have to do is remove the reel spool from the reel, flip the bail and reinstall the reel spool. easy.
Yes. That would work.
usually reel come with specification like line capacity based pounds-diameter mm so I was wondering can you not follow those spec, like for example i have this seahawk ionic 500 size spinning reel which is clearly for ultralight but the spec here recommend specific braid line product with specific pounds-diameter mm. say it want me to go for 6LB-195yrd but can I go below that like 2LB braid instead? will there be problem?
You don’t have to. You can go lighter or heavier.
@@calebwistad thanks!
What about with heavy catfish reels? I’m putting 65 pound braid on a reel for river fishing at a dam and mono that test is way thicker. If I get to the backing fighting a big fish and it’s lighter test I’m going to get snapped.
You only need about a dozen wraps of mono to cinch down on the reel spool. You can go all braid from there and fill her up!
@@calebwistad what # test for the backer with the 65# braid? Thanks in advanced! Great channel!
0:59 what model reel is that?
That’s a Diawa Exceler.
Does it matter about the pounds of the mono and braid let’s say I use 12lb mono and 20 lb braid does it matter? And does it matter what pole as long as I don’t over do it?
You don’t have to match the braid and leader sizes. And yes, the rod does matter. You always want some flex in the rod if you intend to hook fish with braid on small hooks.
Very useful. I have better knowledge now
Good deal!
Using electrical tape does the trick. I have had the braid slice or break through the backer mono. I never worry about costs because my braided line typically lasts me about a year if i rinse it after every trip
Not a bad idea! The tape keeps the line from slipping I assume?
One way to keep down the cost if you are using all braid is once you figure you’ve gotten about the usable lifespan on the braid, you’re really only talking about the first half of the line that’s been in the water. If you pull the line off the reel and then reverse it so that the old top of your braid is tied to the reel, you’ll end up with the top half or third of the line will be fresh unused braid that was just sitting on the base of the reel acting as the backer.
@@calebwistad I’ve used electrical tape on a bunch of reels. It has always worked for me.
I use the same white tape line brings 😂
That reel is actually braid ready, no mono needed. That's why there is rubber on the reel...You can use mono so you don't have to use as much braid but straight braid won't slip on that particular reel....
That is correct. About 1/3 of my reels are “braid ready”. I still typically put backer on them though.
Done using braid. Line twists everywhere
Like wind knots?
@@calebwistad yes
That's probably from putting on the way this guy showed in the video
Also have to be careful with those Daiwa mono estimates. If you look at the line diameter on the spool (.28mm for 12lb) vs. the typical diameter of line the same lb (.33-.36mm for 12lb) you'll notice it's much thinner. Daiwa bases their estimates off their own brand line and you won't get the same capacity if you use something else. It's deceiving because they only show the diameter on the physical spool, not on the online specs for their reels. People end up buying the wrong reel size if they bought it based on the mono estimates and in this case misjudge how much backing to put on. Their braid seems to be the same as other brands so not affected there.
Hmm, interesting. Good to know!
This is like trying to get line twist. This technique is good for casting reels but not spinning reels. The line should come off the spool counter clockwise.
I would never spool mono this way. Braid is minimally affected by line twist and this method of spooling does not cause any noticeable difference.
completely wrong way to put line on a fixed spool reel, he's putting half a twist in the line with every revolution..you always lay the new line spool flat on the floor so it comes off the spool the same way as the reel is revolving
With mono that matters a lot, with braid it really doesn’t make any difference. At least not in my experience.
Lil electric tape and you can spool braid without any backer.
Yes. New trick I learned after I filmed this video! Good idea.
@@calebwistad I should add, my spinning reel only holds 150yds of 10lb braid, so I find it unnecessary for a backer. If your reel holds double that or amore , I would definetely fill it up with mono first to save some money.
never waste what is left. use it for your lead line
Good idea!
Complete opposite way to spool a spinning reel from any way I've ever been taught
I’m curious to know how you would spool a spinning reel the opposite way of the one I showed in the video.
I agree. It’s better to spool up a spinning reel with the spool flat on a table so that the line comes off the spool in the same direction that it goes on to the reel, to avoid line twist. The technique in this video is good for spooling up a bait casting reel.
I just use the side holes in my crocs and a pencil
Nice trick!
I just don't see what problem is being solved by running braid. I guess it's just trendy.
Ummm… I could start a list of problems that braid solves but it would be pretty long. Braid has also been around for over 30 years now and has overtaken mono as the most popular line by far, so to say it’s “just a trend” is pure silliness. 😂
@@calebwistad I still don't see what problem is being solved by running braid. Must be the trendy colors.
Talking way too much. Just get to the point!! 🤦🏿♂️
Which point should I pick to get to? 😂
Get this spooler, I have it and it really is awesome. Daiichi Seiko Recycler DS Full Equipment Line Spooler 331324
Nice. I’ll check it out.