DALMORE - IS IT WORTH IT £££? - UNCUT & UNFILTERED 73
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- In this episode, we are thrilled to be joined by our good friend Olivia Pattison - a young, passionate, and inspiring female force in the whisky industry! Olivia brings her unique insights and enthusiasm to the table as we dive into a session full of surprises and candid opinions.
We kick things off with a blind tasting led by Jake, who introduces us to a sneak peek of The Whisky Baron's future project. Then, we jump headfirst into exploring the Dalmore core range. Let's just say... there are some mixed feelings about this brand, and it's not a good start!
Join us for an honest, unfiltered discussion filled with laughter, bold opinions, and a whole lot of whisky talk. Don't miss out on finding out if Dalmore is truly worth the hype and the price tag!
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Super! I like the blind tasting. Not to embarrass or fool anyone, but to stretch their senses. And the audience gets pure feedback without preconceived notions about the brand. Id like more of these.
thanks for the input Tim, great to hear you enjoyed the episode. we'll see about getting some more blind tastings in the lineup for you! sláinte
Anybody else see the spider going up poshes shoulder then he slapped at his neck😂 🥃 (26 minutes I think)
Omg at what point is this? 🤣🤣
keen eyes!
Evening team, it's always good to see Liv back on the podcast. Jake when you bottle that cask make sure you let us know because I'll buy a bottle, I've always avoided the OBs of Dalmore.
Evening Richard, hope you’re well bud. Always good to have her on - she’s the most frequent feature to date so maybe we’ll have to keep it going as a regular
@@TheWhiskyBaronI'm good mate, thank you. Keep us posted on that Dalmore cask.
@@richardkilley6838slumbering away for a while still - I’ll let you know where I land on the next re-rack
Great job again. Lovely to see Liv back! The guess the dram at the beginning was really good. Should definitely do it again. Haven’t really had much of Dalmore. After watching I don’t think I’ll be rushing out to buy any. Love it when Ian goes on his rants. Brutal! But awesome. If Jake references the island boys anymore he should be banned for an episode!!!! 😉🤣
thanks for tuning in bud! glad you enjoyed the guess the dram - we might have to do more of that. I'll try and ditch the island boys reference!
I've been absent for a while chaps, but on the upside, I have some episode binge watching to look forward to!
Dalmore.......(tumbleweed moment) - I do have an IB G&M 13yo Dalmore I bought out of curiosity.
People will always buy Dalmore, it makes money so they couldn't care less about enthusiasts, in my opinion. Should have a warning label - If you drink for taste and have active taste buds, this isn't for you.
great to have you back Al! hope the G&M release you got shone through for you
Oof, don’t know which was more brutal, this or the glenfiddich episode! Never felt the need to try Dalmore and probably won’t unless someone offers me some.
you can try it when you come on the pod - hell you can take it all with you!
Whyte & Mackay are probably just recovering from the mauling you gave to Jura Whisky a few vlogs ago.
So they’ll see this vlog and defo cross you off the Christmas card list 😂
Loving the honesty and that’s what I personally look for on RUclips.
You all speak as you find and I find that refreshing.
you might be right! we've got to be honest though Sean and glad to hear you value that. sláinte pal!
Great watch guys very funny the blind tasting was interesting, Ian's descriptions of bottles he hates are priceless you def need to do Ian's 5 worst drams episode .Richard is a legend we went to a dinner and tasting with Richard in Troon (not to far from you Jake) great fun , at the end Richard pulled out a cask sample from a 1974 Dalmore stunning dram . Richard and his PA ended up sitting with me and my pal the rest of the night what a laugh .
we were saying a worst whiskies episode would be good - let us see what we can do for you. ah sure I'd love to meet him - he seems like such a character
Cause I’m an island boyyy!!! Where was the vote? Keep at it I say!
Childishness at its finest!
Great episode. I enjoyed the blind tasting of the first dram. The point about Dalmore whiskies is that the price definitely doesn’t match the drinking experience they offer. I’ve had a few before; I think some are okay, but I would never buy a bottle. But I have to admit, I’m one of the few who like the bottle design and packaging 😅
good to hear you like the packaging - difference of opinions is what we're here for! shame that you agree on price point though
You guys are having a great time tasting all these. Picked up my Dalmore stash when prices were reasonable many years ago (e.g. 18 YO £58.50!).Love the distillery although now the price vs abv is driving people away from the brand in the UK. Portwood is a nice dram and the King Alexander before the price hike. Their higher abv or rate IBs are the ones to remain patient for.
I think I’ve tried the Portwood and remember it being fairly decent!
now that's beyond reasonable - if only things were still this simple!
I love Dalmore!
It's a distillery I can completely ignore, don't have to worry about grabbing the latest release, don't have to spend my whisky budget on it, doesn't take up space in my cabinet.....what's not to love?😁
enjoying this episode, with a good dram (the ultimate glen elgin)
liked the taste of a few dalmore's the very expensive one's but absolutly not worth the money.
liked ian's coments , great to see oliva agian.
keep up the good work.
which ultimate Glen Elgin? thanks Erwin, appreciate the support
When I told my friend that he could've bought a proper and good whisky from the price he spent on a Dalmore Cigar Malt, he wasn't that happy haha! I think he percieved to be more high quality/premium. Great ep guys!
so there is that appearance for outsiders. shame. thanks Bence, see you on the next one! sláinte
Awesome episode fellas, I really enjoyed the first blind tasting where you had to guess the ABV, age, cask type, region etc.
Perhaps that could be a series of episodes where you blind taste a select amount of drams, and then whoever gets the most amount of answers right wins, and has bragging rights 😂
we can definitely look at it JJ!
@@TheWhiskyBaron Thank you my brother 👏🏻
@@jimmyjazz4605 sláinte pal
Speaking of picking up a springbank 18. I wonder if you were lucky enough to grab a bottle of the new kilkerran 17 single cask.
I think Ian may have done but I didn't
I actually enjoy the cigar malt at the moment, lovely dram
I don’t feel the need to search out Dalmore even though I’ve never tried it as far as I can remember. No one seems to recommend it. I’m signed up to a subscription of tastings including a Dalmore one though so it’ll be interesting to see if I connect with any of the expressions on offer…
Dalmore... 😬😬😬😅. But so fair their spirit is quite good - they just ruin it at bottling 😅. IB Dalmore can be amazing
what's your favourite IB to date?
@@TheWhiskyBaron I believe that's a trick question 😅😁
@@Raymaster7482 🤣 good man
The vintage 2008 bottle (15 years old) costs £156 at TWE so a definite no buy, specially when I can buy a Tamdhu 15 for under £80 at MoM
Yeah that’s not a good price. Tamdhu 18 should be achievable for that price and 46% too! 🙏
good comparison
There was a video of a Danish man doing "The Dalmore Experience" with Richard Paterson and it was absolutely HILARIOUS. Even though it made me chuckle at the "snake oil" experience, there were some valid points that Richard Paterson still had and I still went out of my way to taste Dalmore. Ended up enjoying the King Alexander expression in an amazing priced flight at a bar in Inverness. But I am SO sure they paid him to take it down recently because I have tried searching for it and it is non existent...incredible memes though to back up Ian😂
that's interesting - please do share if you ever find it again!
£325! You could buy three really good 18YO whiskies (I picked out Speyburn, anCnoc, and Ledaig, but there are others options) and you'd have three better whiskies (in my view), at higher age statements and all 46% or more ABV, and have around £50 left over to spend on a nice dinner! Why would anyone buy Dalmore? Incidentally you can also get those three whiskies for slightly less than a single bottle of (43% ABV) Dalmore 18.
Totally agree! Even if you want brand recognition you could get a Bunna 18 and Glendronach 18 and walk away with a few pence change for the same as a D18 😬
it's properly mad isn't it. would have like to try the 18 but couldn't rationalise it in my head
Good stuff! Haven’t had the Quintet, but the Trio and Quartet are reasonable drams, although overpriced in my opinion. Go Glencan! Slàinte Mhath 🥃
worth a try if you can get a sample or just pay for a dram, otherwise it's punchy. sláinte my friend, thanks for tuning in!
Ah, Dalmore. I once got a sample of the port wood that I loved! Then I bought a bottle and it was meh. Overly sugary, a little metallic and very thin mouthfeel but quitte hot for the ABV. Waste of good money that could've been spend on an IB or something from another distillery. The Cigar Malt (new release, never had the old one) is still one of my worst whiskies ever, really glad I got a sample of it from a friend for free.
on the EU mainland's better webshops, The 12's around 60, Portwood 70 (it went up a lot last year), 15's 100, Cigar malt 140ish and KAIII moves up to 250ish. Completely insane!
I"m looking forward to that celebrity line up! the Irish Pogues's cheap AF (and way too sweet) but I'm interested in what Metallica and those other rock/metal legends put their names on.
shame - this seems to be the response across the board. we'll get on those other episodes ASAP for you!
@whiskybaron. Were you thinking Green & Blacks chocolate 😂? I’d prefer to talk chocs over anything from Dalmore that I’ve tried tbf. Good craic as usual guys 👍🥃
thanks MM. in honesty I have no idea what I was thinking of - there was a chocolatier in Borough I used to go to and for some reason I thought it was Thornton's. obviously not!
Jake 52 mins, re pricing of the 12 and 15...."it's not something to jump at, is it?" Beautifully understated, underwhel-ment.....
just being honest Hamish and it seems as though the community agrees! you a Dalmore drinker at all?
@@TheWhiskyBaron I've had Cigar Malt and the ( uncoloured ) 2007 vintage, none of the core range age statements
@@highlandhamish9330 impressed by either of them?
2007 is definitely a class act. Cigar malt, I'd had in 2018 when I was first getting in to whisky. Was kindly gifted another one last year . This second one tastes different ; but maybe it's my palate has changed
@@highlandhamish9330 no, it has definitely changed IMO. glad someone else is finding some winners in the core range!
Ian poo pooing the “island bois” quip 😂😂
he's old, he doesn't get it
😂
Had the 12 10 years ago never touched Dalmore again
I can’t imagine I’d even accept a free dram of it after this episode 😅
aye, it sounds as though that's the general consensus unfortunately
Protect Ian, we need more candidness in the industry.
Dalmore…”our category is old men” - Stevie
😂
he's not wrong in fairness..
Looks it's simple.... Mrs Smith is not a serious whisky drinker and wants to buy a gift for someone. The 3d stag looking £100 bottles is not cheap but no too expensive to purchase as a gift. Looks high end. That will do, done and purchased now what wrapping paper would Mr Smith buy
I'd like to think more people would go for the third offering but unfortunately I'd say more are likely to buy the 12
I heard ISLAY..AA..IRELAY..😂
.So when is the islay video coming ourlt ?? Eagerly waiting for it since you last told it s coming this year.
sorry, which Islay video?
@@TheWhiskyBaron
I think i got that reply on the uncut channel that you guys are going to islay this year n will make videos of warehouse tastings etc..
@@sehrajsinghvirk5273 we're certainly heading to Islay soon but I don't know if it will be this year. don't hold your breath but we'll have something with you ASAP!
Never tried dalmore. The vintage is now 155 online retailers... its just too rich for one whisky.
I bought nearly 3 bottles for that price.
From what I can tell from living in Taiwan the demographics of the people buying Dalmore are very similar to those in the UK and other markets: older, predominantly male, marketing driven, brand driven, but non-serious about whisky, consumers. Not one person I have met who has actually been “into” whisky has owned a bottle of Dalmore - but I have seen a few friends fathers with bottles. It’s also up there with Macallan as a celebration whisky. Wedding/birthday/newborn/anniversary/promotion/whatever, if you’re not being gifted Macallan it’ll be Dalmore. It’s easy to forget as enthusiasts but the vast majority of consumers are buying blindly, without that much care about the product, or about the nuances of whisky itself, so brands that have the reputation and the aesthetic tend to be more popular.
P.s pretty sure the Dalmore expression using 7 different wine casks is the King Alexander III - great whisky, but recent price hikes make it an easy one to avoid.
That’s great insight - thank you! We get constantly told whisky is being made for other markets
that's really interesting, thanks for sharing. and you're right - KA is 7, Quintessence is 5 as Ian correctly pointed out
Nope I have never been a Dalmore fan. The colouring is insane and so are the prices! There’s much better scotch!!
glad you agree Christine! such a shame really as it has great potential
Hold up. You can tell from the smell and taste an STR? Like how and what does it smell off
STR casks are often have more subtle wine characteristics whilst the influence of the oak becomes greater. they're also often quite dark in colour so not quite what we had here, but a solid guess from Liv
🫶 thanks brother. Good info and I love the channel
@@hakanozdemir6113 no worries my guy, appreciate the support. hope to see you on the next one. sláinte
Fuck Dalmore there I said it....tried a couple and was nothing special....Lovin the content however!!
thanks Dan - glad we're not disappointing you like Dalmore is!
Posh, living his worst whisky life in this episode...
😂
he rally didn't enjoy it did he!