The air raid warden helmets often had a small nick taken out of the rim to denote that they were not good enough fro frontline troops. However they were good enough for protection from falling masonry, hence their ARP use. Black or White most common Warden colours depending on rank and or location. All factories had their own fire wardens and these vary a lot in colour and decoration. Military establishments also had appointed wardens and my guess would be that the later was used on such, probably an airbase.
I was wondering if you would mention the change in shape and the early rimless type A from the Somme ... the early British helmets were rimless and ROUND with completely circular brims, whereas the later c 1917 or were OVAL . I originally observed this in the Mons War Museum in Mons, Belgium, but you can see people detailing this on ebay as well. ruclips.net/video/xGpGlthfAQU/видео.html
I'm Australian, and our troops used the brodie helmet for as long as the British did. I have one, unrestored, and it's a MKII with the British liner and adjustable cloth chinstrap, but it doesn't have split pins. It uses the American style rivets. So it doesn't quite match any of yours there. Makes me wonder if we manufactured ours here in Australia. Looks like I've got some more research to do!
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The British Brodie was based off the medieval kettle helmet English French first design 12th century kettle helmets. Thats were is think the Brodie helmet design came from.
There were also British police Brodie helmets . Painted black , i think , although i am not sure . I had an uncle in the reserve police and one day arrested a suspicous character . He told the man to follow him to a phone box so that he could telephone for a police car to take the prisoner to a police station . My uncle , who was issued with a bicycle , told the man to stand outside the phone box and guard the bike for him .....i think we can all guess what happened to the bike and prisoner , never to be seen again .
Both the last helmets are WW2 era American civil defense helmets. I am not sure but I think these came before the standard McCord produced US civil defense helmet. They also may have been private purchase.
Thank you. I just googled McCord Civil Defense helmet, which I have in my collection because my father in law did that during WWII and saw helmets for sale that look like the converted WWI model with cloth chin strap labeled as CD helmet..
The warden Helmet is a Mk1* (mark one star). its a WW1 helmet brought up to WW2 spec. A lot of the army started the war with these helmets as the Mk2 was slowly replacing them. So as more and more Mk1* were replaced they made their way into civil defence.
I recently saw an article from Popular Mechanics( or was it Science) magazine referring to the US WWI Brodie as the Kelly. This is wrong. The WWI helmet which was worn by English Speaking soldiers in WWI was known as the tin hat, battle bowler or tommy hat.Kelly comes out in the 1930's and was replaced by the M1.
The warden helmet helmet is a reused ww1 helmet it’s probably Scottish as English wardens had black or white the other one with the split pins would have been used in 1920s by the British army in the Irish war of independence
This may have been mentioned during the video but I probably just missed it. Does anyone know when the Brodie helmet with netting first appeared? I imagine it was during the Second World War but I am unsure.
I have a Brodie pattern, with a strange suspension system. It appears to be an oilcloth ring, with laces, also the cloth chin strap is just riveted in place without bails. It attracts a magnet, and has quite a few dents, I'm thinking mild steel. Haven't seen anything like it, and doesn't have any heat stamps. Any ideas?
My Grandfather was in WW1 he was in the 32nd Division 107th Engineers. His helmet has what looks like sand applied on the outside. Is this camouflage? Why was it used?
Yes, but it’s a real pain in the a$$. I needed to replace the old helmet liner of my M1917 Kelly helmet with a reproduction liner due to the leather being worn out and unusable.
What this guy is saying about the rivets is not entirely accurate. Some British helmets and (Canadian made helmets) have solid rivets too, like the Harrison Bros. and Howson made helmets
I paid 80 dollars for a reproduction that doesn’t even have an adjustable liner. Much too small for my head. I have no idea how someone could say it’s accurate when it’s not big enough. Avoid World War Supply.
The air raid warden helmets often had a small nick taken out of the rim to denote that they were not good enough fro frontline troops. However they were good enough for protection from falling masonry, hence their ARP use. Black or White most common Warden colours depending on rank and or location. All factories had their own fire wardens and these vary a lot in colour and decoration. Military establishments also had appointed wardens and my guess would be that the later was used on such, probably an airbase.
German word for warden is Wart or Wärter, today dated.
My father was a WWII Warden (England), I remember, during the 1950's seeing his old helmet, which was painted black with white text. Hope that helps.
I was wondering if you would mention the change in shape and the early rimless type A from the Somme ... the early British helmets were rimless and ROUND with completely circular brims, whereas the later c 1917 or were OVAL . I originally observed this in the Mons War Museum in Mons, Belgium, but you can see people detailing this on ebay as well.
ruclips.net/video/xGpGlthfAQU/видео.html
I'm Australian, and our troops used the brodie helmet for as long as the British did. I have one, unrestored, and it's a MKII with the British liner and adjustable cloth chinstrap, but it doesn't have split pins. It uses the American style rivets. So it doesn't quite match any of yours there. Makes me wonder if we manufactured ours here in Australia. Looks like I've got some more research to do!
Well, I've found my answer. We did indeed make them here as well, Commonwealth Steel Co. in NSW made them. Mine is stamped MKIII 1942.
Mk II British helmets no longer used the split rivet. I have a 1939 British shell with circular rivets.
Awesome Collection i really need to find and buy a Brodie Helmet, thank you for sharing
Jersey Farang in Thailand eBay has a lot of original ww1 Brodie helmets for $100-300
I have 1 helmet...wwII.in malaysia
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The British Brodie was based off the medieval kettle helmet English French first design 12th century kettle helmets.
Thats were is think the Brodie helmet design came from.
There were also British police Brodie helmets . Painted black , i think , although i am not sure . I had an uncle in the reserve police and one day arrested a suspicous character . He told the man to follow him to a phone box so that he could telephone for a police car to take the prisoner to a police station . My uncle , who was issued with a bicycle , told the man to stand outside the phone box and guard the bike for him .....i think we can all guess what happened to the bike and prisoner , never to be seen again .
Both the last helmets are WW2 era American civil defense helmets. I am not sure but I think these came before the standard McCord produced US civil defense helmet. They also may have been private purchase.
Thank you. I just googled McCord Civil Defense helmet, which I have in my collection because my father in law did that during WWII and saw helmets for sale that look like the converted WWI model with cloth chin strap labeled as CD helmet..
I have a Brodie just like the warden one with the ww1 liner and cloth chinstrap but no writing on it. Just plain green
The warden Helmet is a Mk1* (mark one star). its a WW1 helmet brought up to WW2 spec. A lot of the army started the war with these helmets as the Mk2 was slowly replacing them. So as more and more Mk1* were replaced they made their way into civil defence.
Thanks
@@stang3787 you're welcome
Odd that he upload his last vedio 6 months earlier
the warden and other helmet are a british private purchase helmet of lesser quality steel for homeland use only.
I recently saw an article from Popular Mechanics( or was it Science) magazine referring to the US WWI Brodie as the Kelly. This is wrong. The WWI helmet which was worn by English Speaking soldiers in WWI was known as the tin hat, battle bowler or tommy hat.Kelly comes out in the 1930's and was replaced by the M1.
Awesome brodie helmet in UK its the rarest!
The warden helmet helmet is a reused ww1 helmet it’s probably Scottish as English wardens had black or white the other one with the split pins would have been used in 1920s by the British army in the Irish war of independence
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Glad my helmet (pictured in my profile picture as of October 22, 2022) is a reproduction. It has that elastic (with springs) chinstrap.
I'm trying to find canvas liner for an ocd helmet riveted in only can find the bolted ones is there a parts supplier out there
This may have been mentioned during the video but I probably just missed it. Does anyone know when the Brodie helmet with netting first appeared? I imagine it was during the Second World War but I am unsure.
I’ve seen ones like the last two that are said to be Canadian ones.
I have a Brodie pattern, with a strange suspension system. It appears to be an oilcloth ring, with laces, also the cloth chin strap is just riveted in place without bails. It attracts a magnet, and has quite a few dents, I'm thinking mild steel. Haven't seen anything like it, and doesn't have any heat stamps. Any ideas?
I have a question, does the British mk.2 brodie (The one with the rubber cross) have asbestos?
if any one can help me it would be great.
They do not! Safe to handle, no worries.
@@KeepItBrick Thanks
How long we gotta wait till next vid
does anybody know if there were any british helmets with a lizard emblem painted on the side? i found one for sale but don't know if it is original
My Grandfather was in WW1 he was in the 32nd Division 107th Engineers. His helmet has what looks like sand applied on the outside. Is this camouflage? Why was it used?
Yes, it was put on later manufactured helmets to cut down on "shine' when helmets were wet.
Cork was applied to wet paint then painted over to reduce shine when wet.
May be modified us or a UK one
Amazing
Its probabably an early UK version of the air warden
Maybe you're right
Can anyone explain to my why there was asbestos in the British helmets because I just don't get why they put it in there
Do you know how to put a liner back on a USA m1917 helmet
Yes, but it’s a real pain in the a$$. I needed to replace the old helmet liner of my M1917 Kelly helmet with a reproduction liner due to the leather being worn out and unusable.
@@HistoryCollectorsForum ok thanks for the info
I’ve got a British made helmet and I wanted to know if there’s any to tell the date? The heat stamp says HS153
thats ww1. ww2 ones are dated. however it may be a ww2 refurb.
Could anyone tell me where I could going to see these collectors?
If you live in NJ go to www.njacc.info
I love history you sould make a weird items in us military history
with stan
The helments are the most original the last helment is a home guard
Finally
Vendo uno que tengo, un casco brodie de 1941
Asbestos! I did not know that
The us dough boy never hade a donut in them
We Germans liked the british helmet a lot. Very good for eating soup out of it.
You’re helmets made for good shovels…for shit
We british and australians etc loved the german helmut because it was good for pissing in. It looks and works like a piss pot.
@@mickwarnie8707 Ha ha, because of that what you call beer? No, you wouldn't. You would say: "Wow, that's a real helmet!"
Not all mk1 had doughnuts only from June 1917
Last two are i think are Portuguese
What this guy is saying about the rivets is not entirely accurate. Some British helmets and (Canadian made helmets) have solid rivets too, like the Harrison Bros. and Howson made helmets
Did England supply the u.s with helmets during ww1
yes
Huh.. I could have sworn that the Brodie helmets were inspired by kettle helmets.. for obvious reasons
They were inspired also by the archer's helmet of the Middle Ages.
The number will be a service number the warden will be RAF
I paid 80 dollars for a reproduction that doesn’t even have an adjustable liner. Much too small for my head. I have no idea how someone could say it’s accurate when it’s not big enough. Avoid World War Supply.
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Good vedio
The firts comment is my other account lmao
Restore!!! That’s blasphemy
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Totally wrong
bad vid
David Hugh why so?
Yeah why fucking so, David?