One of the things we forgot was the heart shield in WW2! Many people who fought in WW2 were Christians. So this company designed a small slim holy bible, but the rather hard fabric cover, it had a sheet metal cover. So if a grenade went of nearby, or he was shot with low caliber handgun in the heart. The fragmentation or bullet would crash into the hard cover sheet metal, would have to make it through hundreds pages, and hopefully stopped the round or fragment from reaching the heart. It was put in a breast pocket near the heart in an attempt to protect the American soldier in WW2. Many scared mothers and fathers would send their sons those heart shields. I'm not sure how successful they were, but the idea was smart. The bible would even have something like "May this comfort and protect you" or "May this keep you safe from harm" engraved on the cover with a beautiful crucifix engraving. Many soldiers probably felt very confident having that with them. Not to mention there have been several times in battle where a bullet was stopped by a pocket bible. So to add a sheet metal hard cover was smart.
My great grand dad was with the 32nd ID on the island of luzon, him and his platoon captured general yamashita and marched him back to Manila to stand trial n watched him hang. He had one of these bibles. Then my grandfather (his son) carried it in nam, 3 separate troops have carried it in the middle east and one in Africa since then.
I’m a retired US Army Infantry NCO serving 1983-2009 and I was issued 3 types of helmets in my tour, I remember hating the Kevlar helmet as did the rest of us. I was in the Gulf War with D Co. 2/502 INF, 101 ABN and we wore regular black leather boots since there wasn’t enough desert boots to go around. We also wore the PASGT vest but no desert Camo cover. I had a spare vest that I sat on in our HMMWV since our biggest concern was land mines as a few vehicles encountered some while we were on the Iraqi border, having the batteries of the HMMWV coming through my butt wasn’t something I looked forward to. They issued us the digital Camo parka and pants which we wore in the winter time since it got damn cold at night. When the 1st Armor Division deployed to Kuwait in April 2003, we were delayed a couple days waiting for IBA vests to arrive since they were new. We arrived in Iraq in 19 May 2003 and it was like being on Mars, it was an eerie scene. Oddly enough, us old salts didn’t particularly like the new ACH helmet since it barely covered the head, what’s next? A tea cup saucer? I was issued the older “Ranger plates” instead of SAPI plates for my IBA due to the low inventory and those things were a lot heavier than SAPI plates!
@@nicgur_6981 “wtf you on about” 1. None of your business. I am not morally obligated to tell you, you have no reason to care 2. It’s quite obvious, you shouldn’t have to ask in the first place 3. You’re replying to a 3 year old comment. Get a life (for the past 3 reasons, not just this one)
We used 90's era old army vests, helmets, those square first aid kits in the navy all in the 2000s. this makes me feel old. I thought that was modern equipment back then.
Cool collection. I have a couple interesting less common pieces that weren't on display here myself, an army M1952 vest (ballistic nylon, rather than fiberglass plates), a couple sets of rba, a chicken plate vest from vietnam for door gunners and a vietnam era variable body armor, which i think might have been the first "modern" ground infantry vest with rifle plates in it. It's kind of interesting because the plates themselves have webbing on them to be worn separately from the fragmentation carrier.
I wore the PSAGT Kevlar non desert camo version, we in the Seabees weren't issued desert camo. Awesome video thanks so much for the info, brings back lots of great memories.
+LennyFaceGuy i have a few european steel helmets,think there cool...only german kit i have is the 80's flektarn flak Vest,m56 stahlhelm,active service sleeping bag and a 80's vintage nbc suit
Missing an RBA and IOTV as well as the KDH plate carrier. Also the butt pad he has on the UCP IBA wasn't issued with IBAs, it wasn't introduced until the IOTV.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed a few finite details and errors lol. However in reference to your reply - I think the DCU Interceptor Vests had cock flaps on them. I'm not fully sure but I thought that they did. To my knowledge everything after the PASGT had a cock flap. It was just if you chose to attach it or not. Or even got issued one to begin with.
He's also missing all the M55s, M69, M1952A, BEAUR, variable, aircrew body armor and the CVC vest. So yeah a few to mention lol but it was a nice presentation.
When I was in the Marine Corps we didn't get those MICH Helmets till '08 but our version was called the LWH (LightWeight Helmet). We still had the PAGST helmets up until then. Also around that same time we switched from the Interceptor Body Armor to the Modular Tactical Vest(MTV). Funny thing is when I deployed to Afghanistan we left our MTVs back stateside and were issued Scalable Plate Carriers (SPC). which removes the kevlar and kept the SAPI plates. It deemed that mobility was more essential than protection.
Something to consider: The gentleman speaking in the video stated the reason armor went out of use during the middle ages was because bullet penetrated the armor. This is only a part of the reason, and not entirely accurate. Many, many cuirasses were able to withstand pistol and various small arms fire of the day. They were often shot as part of the "proof" process. While it is true that at closer ranges small arms could penetrate most of this armor, I would say that economics was a larger factor. Why have one armored knight when you can equip 4-6 foot soldiers with firearms that are going be be more lethal, if less protected, for the same cost? Besides that point, I enjoyed the quick look at these protective systems.
+John McClendon Also consider the metallurgy of the armor, the bullet and its weight, the powder behind the bullet, the logistics of providing armor and maintenance in the field, and in cases in WW1, the downfalls of carrying such armor across the muddy battlefields.
There was a few efforts during WWII to provide sufficient body protection: The Canadian medics used a few steel british belly plates and back plates, not to mention the SN-42 which was highly liked by the engineers who were often under constant fire and last of all the Japanese used a few steel plate designs which are not easy to find good sources.
1 pilot of Prussian Empire during WW1 wore a very late era Maximilian style armour breastplate and was shot 4 times and survived, the piece is currently kept in The Germanisches Nationalmuseum
Good video. I was the quality control person for the 1968 & 1969 Vietnam era helmets (#6521) made by Dana Corporation at their Trenton, Michigan, factory. When I worked there both the materials and the manufacturing process were classified. From what I understand that info is now in the public domain.
It’s a steel helmet, not that complicated, why was it classified? Every single country on earth that had a standing army had the capability to stamp sheet steel and temper it.
I served in a smaller european army about 10 years ago and we had those exact forest camo PASGT vests. Not every country can afford the latest and greatest gear.
Excellent commentary! However, I don't believe that cooking in the "steel pot" would ruin the tempering because if there is food (liquid) in the helmet, the temperature of the helmet would not be able to exceed the boiling point of 212 degrees for the most part. That's why you can boil water in a paper cup in a fire - thanks.
The magazine belt should be reconfigured to make the bullets magazines serve as additional protective shell on top of the body armor. It would have a positive psychological boost if most of the upper chest and most of the abdomen area are covered. There could be magazine pockets for the upper thighs and arms, too.
Guys in the field are already wearing armor that can stop multiple AK rounds specifically the plate carriers guys already have to carry about 80+ pounds of gear depending on what mission they’re on adding more magazines and armor on your body will only reduce mobility and might actually get a soldier killed so in theory it might actually do the opposite
"an outer cover you can quickly slip over" that cover is anything but quick to put on. it took me a solid 40 minutes to get the thing put on right. I have also been told that the covers for the vests were only issued to some people due to them being thought of rather late to be put into mass production
Do you think offensive weapon development will surpass body armor in the future? Or will there be a need for developing something disruptive as fire arms were vs swords and melee weapons? Maybe rockets/RPG qualify?
Wore the M-1 Steel Pot until Late 1983-83. Three C’s: Chit, Chower, Chave! Cook also🙁 wore the Vest into 1983, had to DEMILITARIZE Them with Field Mess Kit Knives, all we had!
Actually, no the British stayed with the 'Brodie' design but there's many many different variations, with different liners, chinstraps, and we created a new helmet by around 1944 called the turtle helmet
You're looking at the interceptor vest backwards, and it has plate pockets in both the front and back. When you first get to it in the video, you're looking at the back.
@10:00 That IBA, Interceptor Body Armor, to me was the WORST Armor I've ever had. We finally switched to the IOTV in late 2007, early 2008. All the weight was on the shoulder, no real adjustment
Working on putting together a 2004 US Army impression. More specifically, Battle of Sadr City. I just need to find an Interceptor within my price range.
That pad on the back of your ACU vest called IBA ( individual body Armor)goes with the new armor system called IOTV. The new armor is not any cooler than the old vest you have, it just balances the weight better. I never Hurd that wege shaped flap called what you said. We called it primarily a groin protector, nut flap, or a dick protector. I was issued the deltoid protectors most commonly referred to as DAPS. I never wore them over seas in Iraq or Afghanistan. I never saw any one else where them either except on TV, never in real life.
I have a M1 helmet from Vietnam. A soldier really wore it during the Vietnam war. I don’t know his name sadly. It was built on July 1967. That’s it’s manufacturing date. (July 1967). (I can send a picture of it if you want.)
The First model of kevlar helmet adopted was Also called "Fritz", it's the name that US soldier gave to the model 38/40/42 of the german "stalhelm", they gave similari design so Fritz for the win!
In case of body armor the history returns. We can see the same evolution in the Middle age, they were bad protected and they build heavier and heavier armor, to protect them against fire weapons. Til they realized, that they can’t fight in to heavy armor. So they took less armor and start focusing on speed and this evolution was til WW1 then the militaries started to make helmets again and later body armor, too. And they make weapons which can penetrate these and make heavier armor. But f.e. special units focus on speed again. I think, we will build mechanized body armor, so the soldier don’t need muscles anymore, or the history returns again
Thats exactly describes the evolution of of usmc body armor over the last 2 decades. IBA to MTV, Marines wanted something lighter so the scalable plate carrier was introduced and issued concurrently with the MTV, MTV and SPC are then replaced by the IMTV and the IMTV plate carrier, USMC stops issuing the vest version and only issues the plate carrier, and it is currently being replaced by the pc gen 3
What's kind of interesting is that before the Brodie helmet was adopted by the US as well, they almost adopted this one: nuke.combat-helmets.com/Default.aspx?tabid=210 Called the EXPERIMENTAL N°2 "DEEP SALADE", it was adopted by the AEF but then rejected because it looked too much like the German Stahlhelm. I suppose the idea of also being (accidentally) shot at by the rest of the allied forces didn't exactly appeal to the army brass.
Britain bought a load of Vietnam era vests from the USA to be used in Northern Ireland (While Britain was waiting for its own version to be made). The story goes when the vests were issued in NI, many of them had holes and dried blood from their previous wearers.
Tourniquet is usually pronounced as 'torny kay' not as 'turnikit'. It's like the name 'Renault', it's pronounced as 'ren oh' but some people think that it is called 'ren holt'.
You sure? Unless they were part of coalition forces they never used the steel pot helmet I don’t even think any desert helmet covers were made for the steel pot you might be getting confused by the Iraqis, they wore a helmet that was based off of the m1 helmet that was made out of a bullet resistant material which didn’t really work at all but was effective against blunt force trauma and debris they also had helmets that looked very similar to the m1 helmet too
@@mixmaster2909 not everyone that went received desert camo in time... but anyone active duty in the us military had kevlar helmets by then.... although they still had the woodland camo pattern covers on them. 🤷♂️
We could great increase the protection of all our armor - vehicular and personal - by adding a few layers of graphene, with negligible increase in weight. It's the Holy Grail of armor protection!
Ackshually there were bulletproof armors, but those were extremely heavy and extremely expensive, compared to normal armor, which in itself was already extremely expensive. Edit, I'm talking about the end of medieval / start of Renaissance period of course.
Swivel bales started being seen in late 1944 😂 even then in short quantities. They were not being issued in 1943 at all. Fixed bales were far more widely used throughout the entire war
What he said about Armour was kind of true but Knight armor could deflect bullets, the main reason Armour was no longer used was because troops weren't mobile enough.
the presentation of the 2nd to the last set, to me you made it seem like it was only isseued 1 plate of protection, when of course that wasnt the case, what military only provides one face of protectiob, other then that great video
Brandon x actually sometimes that was the case. During the Gulf war and invasion of Iraq, ground troops weren't logistical prepared. Not everybody had plates and some only had one plate because they were told to hand the other one in. NBC gear was issued in woodland even though they were fighting in the desert.
I have an m1 pot from the 80s and is a back swivel bale and the chin strap has an extra strap that loops into the bail and connects to another strap, were these used a lot, or did I find an rare helmet?!
The helmets were introduced in wwi on the western front to stop cods of dirt thrown in the air by explosives falling on soldiers heads and killing them. Aussie and New Zealand soldiers in Vietnam didn’t usually wear body armour and helmets. Too hot and heavy.
2 reasons number 1 they’re expensive as shit number 2 you’re not really supposed to get gear the military is currently using the military will regulate it up the ass because chances are if you can get the gear the enemy can too
The flak jacket you have for the Viet Nam war is an army issue. We Marines had a different type with plates sewn in and it was horrible to wear. We HAD to wear it. It was heavy and very hot.
@@stang3787 you guys really need a decent budget separate from the navy. As an army scout it's even hard for me to stomach.. kinda pisses me off how they're treated. Some of the best trained in the world sent out with obsolete shit.
@@pickolascage1283 I am a soldier, not a Marine, but I appreciate your comment. Some Marine Generals were extra proud that they kept costs down by using equipment the Army didn't want or believed was obsolete or no longer functional.
I have never seen anyone actually wearing the deltoid protects, and the neck protector and groin and back is just a bunch of unneeded stuff that just adds weight and heat, the majority of people don't even have the side plates in
Calvin Otis I can understand you taking off everything you mentioned save for the groin protector, if I was in the military that’d be the one thing I’d leave (for obvious reasons)
I found that hsi collection was interesteing, but little on information. THe early body armour were nothing but fragmentaion protection. It wasn't till the US SF started using modern body armpour did we see bullet protection. the Clasificatrion of protection from projectils is called "Class" these range from 2, 2a, 3, 3a, in soft armour (WIll stop handguns up to a 35 with the Class 3A" to hard armour "Plates", in classes 4, 5 etc.. the first Issue meldes were the RBA (Ranger Body Armour) that was used by the Ranger Regt, first seen in the famous Battle of Mogadishu, or Black Hawk Down story by Mark Bowden. The Rangers wore woodland camo, class 3A vest with Plates that protected from small arms up til 7.62 (308 Cal) ammunition. The Army started issueng the same Body Armour to units that participated in the War in Bosnia. Also during this time the Maries were being issued a version that had a quick release in case of accidents over water. This was due to several accidents where Maries drowed because of the body armour. Afterwards there was the developement of the IBA Individual Body Army, which was the 3 colour camo pattern vest he had displayed backwards on teh table. No one was issed only one plate. Now if a solider only wore one plaate, then he wasn't a smart soldier. This Body Armour was made famous and used during the Invasion and fighting in Iraq and Afganistan. There were problems due to not every soldier getting issued body armour. But in the end everyone was issued it. Afterwards, the US Army developed the version fo Body Armour that he had on the chair in teh Digital (OCP) camo pattern. This is a complete body armour sytem that was designed to protect a soldier more fully. But only non-combatant or verhicle crews wore it because of it's bulk, size and weight. The US Army has changed camo patterns again to the current Multicam /Scorpion/UCP patterns. the body armour is the same as the previous version which you saw on the chair. Helmets have chaged across the boart, and although the protection that has been added sionce the PASGT Helmet came out in the early 80's and used by unsits liek the 82d Airborne Div. in Grenada. the current issue MICH is a lighter version with trhe same level (Class) of protection. Another differnce in the hard plates are the amouts of impacts they can have. The current issue plates can handle two impacts from small arms fire. The Speical FOrces have used body armour longer and have mosty purchaced it through the open market, this allowing them to have better and lighter armour. Delta Force and the SEALs have been wearing Body Armour for almost 40 years now. or since they were developed. THe US Army SF change often their brands of Body Armour, but i knwo that resently they were still using Crye Pression BA. They have also began using other brands of lighter helmets that allow them to wear communication and hearing protection along with night vision. lights, and strobe lights. The Combat Crews in the USMC have also been using full body protection (Armour) coveralls since IED probelms in Iraq and A-Stan. And we are now seeing panels that can be worn over the legs with MOLLE/PALS webbing that can support drop leg pouches and holsters. Gloves have changed alnog with uniforms. The current combat uniforms are Fire Resistant. And tody a soldier can expect to wear a full fire resistant uniform, from head to toe. The Navel Seals Seal Team 6 used special sheaths for their body armour vest that protected them from water, as water can case a 30% drop in protection, combined with a flotation device. JUst slipped the vest panels inside and wore like a noremal vest. There is much more that can be added, but I though I would through in this little peace of information as I found the gentleman wasn't clear nor complete in his information. To add another point in WW1, the Germans developed armour steel plates to be worn over the torso aliong with face shields. ANd it has been found that the first known body armour was used by Alexander the Great, and it was a composite body armoutr that protected against arrows.
Mike Box actually, no. During Vietnam ceramic ballistic plates that could stop 7.62 were issued to helicopter crews and in small quantities to ground troops.
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One of the things we forgot was the heart shield in WW2! Many people who fought in WW2 were Christians. So this company designed a small slim holy bible, but the rather hard fabric cover, it had a sheet metal cover. So if a grenade went of nearby, or he was shot with low caliber handgun in the heart. The fragmentation or bullet would crash into the hard cover sheet metal, would have to make it through hundreds pages, and hopefully stopped the round or fragment from reaching the heart. It was put in a breast pocket near the heart in an attempt to protect the American soldier in WW2. Many scared mothers and fathers would send their sons those heart shields. I'm not sure how successful they were, but the idea was smart. The bible would even have something like "May this comfort and protect you" or "May this keep you safe from harm" engraved on the cover with a beautiful crucifix engraving. Many soldiers probably felt very confident having that with them. Not to mention there have been several times in battle where a bullet was stopped by a pocket bible. So to add a sheet metal hard cover was smart.
what company
Were there any accounts of that working?
Also forgot the original level III plate armour of Vietnam.
My great grand dad was with the 32nd ID on the island of luzon, him and his platoon captured general yamashita and marched him back to Manila to stand trial n watched him hang. He had one of these bibles. Then my grandfather (his son) carried it in nam, 3 separate troops have carried it in the middle east and one in Africa since then.
Similarly he UK around the time that kevlar armor was majorly implemented used a metal block to protect the heart as it was basically a one shot kill
I’m a retired US Army Infantry NCO serving 1983-2009 and I was issued 3 types of helmets in my tour, I remember hating the Kevlar helmet as did the rest of us. I was in the Gulf War with D Co. 2/502 INF, 101 ABN and we wore regular black leather boots since there wasn’t enough desert boots to go around. We also wore the PASGT vest but no desert Camo cover. I had a spare vest that I sat on in our HMMWV since our biggest concern was land mines as a few vehicles encountered some while we were on the Iraqi border, having the batteries of the HMMWV coming through my butt wasn’t something I looked forward to. They issued us the digital Camo parka and pants which we wore in the winter time since it got damn cold at night.
When the 1st Armor Division deployed to Kuwait in April 2003, we were delayed a couple days waiting for IBA vests to arrive since they were new. We arrived in Iraq in 19 May 2003 and it was like being on Mars, it was an eerie scene. Oddly enough, us old salts didn’t particularly like the new ACH helmet since it barely covered the head, what’s next? A tea cup saucer? I was issued the older “Ranger plates” instead of SAPI plates for my IBA due to the low inventory and those things were a lot heavier than SAPI plates!
PASGT stands for personnel armor system for ground troops, MICH stands for modular integrated combat helmet and ACH stands for advanced combat helmet
Quartermaster didn‘t give me this helmet, *GOD* did
Der Boi actually either American Radiator co. or Schutler gave it to him
Der Boi and why do you have god in bold
Achtung probably to imply emphasis
@@hochspannunglebensgefahr5339 wtf you on about?
@@nicgur_6981 “wtf you on about”
1. None of your business. I am not morally obligated to tell you, you have no reason to care
2. It’s quite obvious, you shouldn’t have to ask in the first place
3. You’re replying to a 3 year old comment. Get a life (for the past 3 reasons, not just this one)
We used 90's era old army vests, helmets, those square first aid kits in the navy all in the 2000s. this makes me feel old. I thought that was modern equipment back then.
Personal armor system ground troops. (Pasgt)
Cool collection. I have a couple interesting less common pieces that weren't on display here myself, an army M1952 vest (ballistic nylon, rather than fiberglass plates), a couple sets of rba, a chicken plate vest from vietnam for door gunners and a vietnam era variable body armor, which i think might have been the first "modern" ground infantry vest with rifle plates in it. It's kind of interesting because the plates themselves have webbing on them to be worn separately from the fragmentation carrier.
I wore the PSAGT Kevlar non desert camo version, we in the Seabees weren't issued desert camo. Awesome video thanks so much for the info, brings back lots of great memories.
I wouldn't call the PASGT vest cover 'quick' to slip on, but it does indeed slip on.
Thats a fine collection,mine is all british so its cool to see how our american friends cover up...thanks for sharing
Mines all german during the 20th century like ww1 and ww2 era.
+LennyFaceGuy i have a few european steel helmets,think there cool...only german kit i have is the 80's flektarn flak Vest,m56 stahlhelm,active service sleeping bag and a 80's vintage nbc suit
We've advanced since this video.
tumbo1984 oi m8 I know u
Nice.
Missing an RBA and IOTV as well as the KDH plate carrier. Also the butt pad he has on the UCP IBA wasn't issued with IBAs, it wasn't introduced until the IOTV.
Plus the USMC MTV, IMTV, and SPC.
sawyer lawrence and he had the groin protector on the dcu Camo interceptor vest wrong
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I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed a few finite details and errors lol. However in reference to your reply - I think the DCU Interceptor Vests had cock flaps on them. I'm not fully sure but I thought that they did. To my knowledge everything after the PASGT had a cock flap. It was just if you chose to attach it or not. Or even got issued one to begin with.
He's also missing all the M55s, M69, M1952A, BEAUR, variable, aircrew body armor and the CVC vest. So yeah a few to mention lol but it was a nice presentation.
When I was in the Marine Corps we didn't get those MICH Helmets till '08 but our version was called the LWH (LightWeight Helmet). We still had the PAGST helmets up until then. Also around that same time we switched from the Interceptor Body Armor to the Modular Tactical Vest(MTV). Funny thing is when I deployed to Afghanistan we left our MTVs back stateside and were issued Scalable Plate Carriers (SPC). which removes the kevlar and kept the SAPI plates. It deemed that mobility was more essential than protection.
The LWH was the PASGT but much better and lighter (same design shape but 10x more comfortable to wear)
Regading 4:18, PASGT is the acronym which means Personnel Armor System for Ground Troops.
Something to consider: The gentleman speaking in the video stated the reason armor went out of use during the middle ages was because bullet penetrated the armor. This is only a part of the reason, and not entirely accurate. Many, many cuirasses were able to withstand pistol and various small arms fire of the day. They were often shot as part of the "proof" process. While it is true that at closer ranges small arms could penetrate most of this armor, I would say that economics was a larger factor. Why have one armored knight when you can equip 4-6 foot soldiers with firearms that are going be be more lethal, if less protected, for the same cost? Besides that point, I enjoyed the quick look at these protective systems.
+John McClendon Also consider the metallurgy of the armor, the bullet and its weight, the powder behind the bullet, the logistics of providing armor and maintenance in the field, and in cases in WW1, the downfalls of carrying such armor across the muddy battlefields.
There was a few efforts during WWII to provide sufficient body protection: The Canadian medics used a few steel british belly plates and back plates, not to mention the SN-42 which was highly liked by the engineers who were often under constant fire and last of all the Japanese used a few steel plate designs which are not easy to find good sources.
You're dumb learn to speak properly kid.
1 pilot of Prussian Empire during WW1 wore a very late era Maximilian style armour breastplate and was shot 4 times and survived, the piece is currently kept in The Germanisches Nationalmuseum
Ignoring plates, there was also soft armor available, normally heavy silk.
Good video. I was the quality control person for the 1968 & 1969 Vietnam era helmets (#6521) made by Dana Corporation at their Trenton, Michigan, factory. When I worked there both the materials and the manufacturing process were classified. From what I understand that info is now in the public domain.
It’s a steel helmet, not that complicated, why was it classified? Every single country on earth that had a standing army had the capability to stamp sheet steel and temper it.
Marines wore the steel part and kevlar vest in Beirut and Grenada.
with the intercepter vest he had it so the back of the vest was facing up
"Vietnam Error" lol. Sort of was
Doug Swink I see you watch lindybeige :)
Doug Swink well the flak vest was not a good defense against spandau
Smartphone Gamer Its cool to see the "joke" went over your head.
@@codymcdaniel1151 whoooosh
I served in a smaller european army about 10 years ago and we had those exact forest camo PASGT vests. Not every country can afford the latest and greatest gear.
Which country?
what did the guy in the background say to the guy who was talking about the helmet at 2:16 ?
Jumpman Keel is like to know as well.
I think he said “they want you up there” but I’m not sure
that's my substitute teacher Mr Gurtski!
Lucky my sub just made fun of students Snd diddent teach anything
@@houstonhensley9324 sounds fun
@@TheBackpackingSailor I am seeing u everywhere
Excellent presentation. Thank you, sir.
the m1 is freaking sexy!
frankie Aranda wtf
frankie Aranda wait I'm wearing an M1 in my pic XD
No the m16A1 is sexy
TNG BROS its about helmet not gun :3 (sorry for my bad English)
TNG BROS thats a rifle not a helmet lol
Excellent commentary! However, I don't believe that cooking in the "steel pot" would ruin the tempering because if there is food (liquid) in the helmet, the temperature of the helmet would not be able to exceed the boiling point of 212 degrees for the most part. That's why you can boil water in a paper cup in a fire - thanks.
The magazine belt should be reconfigured to make the bullets magazines serve as additional protective shell on top of the body armor. It would have a positive psychological boost if most of the upper chest and most of the abdomen area are covered. There could be magazine pockets for the upper thighs and arms, too.
Guys in the field are already wearing armor that can stop multiple AK rounds specifically the plate carriers guys already have to carry about 80+ pounds of gear depending on what mission they’re on adding more magazines and armor on your body will only reduce mobility and might actually get a soldier killed so in theory it might actually do the opposite
What type of mich helmet was that with the acu digital camo
Which ACU digital? OCP or UCP?
Barack Saddam Hussein Obama bin Laden #Grammar Nazi he probably means ucp that's what civilians think it's called the ocp he would call multicam
Hexa
Not just civilian, I've seen cases of Soldiers calling UCP ACU.
"an outer cover you can quickly slip over" that cover is anything but quick to put on. it took me a solid 40 minutes to get the thing put on right. I have also been told that the covers for the vests were only issued to some people due to them being thought of rather late to be put into mass production
Missing the somalia era, steel plated “ranger style” armor.
Well the armor wasn't standard issue so it doesn't count for this video
Do you think offensive weapon development will surpass body armor in the future? Or will there be a need for developing something disruptive as fire arms were vs swords and melee weapons? Maybe rockets/RPG qualify?
Wore the M-1 Steel Pot until Late 1983-83. Three C’s: Chit, Chower, Chave! Cook also🙁 wore the Vest into 1983, had to DEMILITARIZE Them with Field Mess Kit Knives, all we had!
78th Fort Dix. Lighting tomatos always in my heart. Greetings from Germany.
Actually, no the British stayed with the 'Brodie' design but there's many many different variations, with different liners, chinstraps, and we created a new helmet by around 1944 called the turtle helmet
You're looking at the interceptor vest backwards, and it has plate pockets in both the front and back. When you first get to it in the video, you're looking at the back.
@10:00 That IBA, Interceptor Body Armor, to me was the WORST Armor I've ever had. We finally switched to the IOTV in late 2007, early 2008. All the weight was on the shoulder, no real adjustment
2:48
Once tested firing 9mm and .45acp onto an M1 shell at about 10 meters. Deformed, but no penetration.
My question is, why is it in the first IBA he said that the back was the front?
Working on putting together a 2004 US Army impression. More specifically, Battle of Sadr City. I just need to find an Interceptor within my price range.
Digital Camouflage Helmet has a Torri for the Rakkasan my old unit. 1-187IN, 3BCT, 101st ABN DIV(AA).
Just a bit short, I was wearing a plate carrier and not a full ibas in 2008
it was imbeded in kevlar not the display case
So he was saying that sometimes soldiers would take out the front plate for mobility?
+William Tucker I was in the US Army for 10 years and served with many, many DS vets. I have never heard of anyone dropping their front plate.
Yeah, I thought it was the side or backs dropped but never the front.
That pad on the back of your ACU vest called IBA ( individual body Armor)goes with the new armor system called IOTV. The new armor is not any cooler than the old vest you have, it just balances the weight better. I never Hurd that wege shaped flap called what you said. We called it primarily a groin protector, nut flap, or a dick protector. I was issued the deltoid protectors most commonly referred to as DAPS. I never wore them over seas in Iraq or Afghanistan. I never saw any one else where them either except on TV, never in real life.
I am sure Humvee gunnars would have worn the deltoids or people clearing houses atleast.
Interceptor Body Armor. Not individual
Really love your guys videos keep it up!
Umm on the OTV you have it backwards, and the helmet was still a PASGT.
I have a M1 helmet from Vietnam. A soldier really wore it during the Vietnam war. I don’t know his name sadly. It was built on July 1967. That’s it’s manufacturing date. (July 1967). (I can send a picture of it if you want.)
The First model of kevlar helmet adopted was Also called "Fritz", it's the name that US soldier gave to the model 38/40/42 of the german "stalhelm", they gave similari design so Fritz for the win!
I like how they completely missed the m55 flak… which was literally seen constantly in Vietnam unlike the 3/4th which was barley seen
The 3/4th was a army thing mainly used in a defensive role other than armored units.
I need that 6 color helmet and vest cover.
I will fight you for it. Lol
Thanks for the good information , and by the way you have a nice collection
Thank you. It developed by accident as I was primarily interested in firearms.
Who is Gurski? (if you don't mind me asking)
The IBA w/ESAPI was OIF. Now the newest is the different plate carriers w/ESAPI.
This guy has some great one liners
Great video!
In case of body armor the history returns. We can see the same evolution in the Middle age, they were bad protected and they build heavier and heavier armor, to protect them against fire weapons. Til they realized, that they can’t fight in to heavy armor. So they took less armor and start focusing on speed and this evolution was til WW1 then the militaries started to make helmets again and later body armor, too. And they make weapons which can penetrate these and make heavier armor. But f.e. special units focus on speed again.
I think, we will build mechanized body armor, so the soldier don’t need muscles anymore, or the history returns again
Thats exactly describes the evolution of of usmc body armor over the last 2 decades. IBA to MTV, Marines wanted something lighter so the scalable plate carrier was introduced and issued concurrently with the MTV, MTV and SPC are then replaced by the IMTV and the IMTV plate carrier, USMC stops issuing the vest version and only issues the plate carrier, and it is currently being replaced by the pc gen 3
The special operations museum is awesome
i love my plate carrier stops everything up to 7.62x59 that covers about 80 percent
Mine stop 308
What's kind of interesting is that before the Brodie helmet was adopted by the US as well, they almost adopted this one:
nuke.combat-helmets.com/Default.aspx?tabid=210
Called the EXPERIMENTAL N°2 "DEEP SALADE", it was adopted by the AEF but then rejected because it looked too much like the German Stahlhelm.
I suppose the idea of also being (accidentally) shot at by the rest of the allied forces didn't exactly appeal to the army brass.
Britain bought a load of Vietnam era vests from the USA to be used in Northern Ireland (While Britain was waiting for its own version to be made). The story goes when the vests were issued in NI, many of them had holes and dried blood from their previous wearers.
try and get your hands on the army plate carrier, or new IOTV Gen 4
Ive probaly watched this 6 times already
or use it to shave my dad used it to shave in 1960 -1962 in Germany in the 14th armored division as a loader on a M52 105mm self propelled howitzer
When you learn more from this video than you do in your history class
Tourniquet is usually pronounced as 'torny kay' not as 'turnikit'.
It's like the name 'Renault', it's pronounced as 'ren oh' but some people think that it is called 'ren holt'.
00:18 prior to ww1 there was no such thing as body armor and helmets
You ever heard of a knight
Skersaroony
_Ballistic_ body armour and helmets
@@pcarrierorange There was armour capable ot stopping common pistols berore WW1.
_Cuirassier_ still active at the beginning of ww1
Fun fact they used the steel pot was used up into desert storm but it was very rare
You sure? Unless they were part of coalition forces they never used the steel pot helmet I don’t even think any desert helmet covers were made for the steel pot you might be getting confused by the Iraqis, they wore a helmet that was based off of the m1 helmet that was made out of a bullet resistant material which didn’t really work at all but was effective against blunt force trauma and debris they also had helmets that looked very similar to the m1 helmet too
@@mixmaster2909 not everyone that went received desert camo in time... but anyone active duty in the us military had kevlar helmets by then.... although they still had the woodland camo pattern covers on them. 🤷♂️
PASGT for life
2:42 I have that cover.
We could great increase the protection of all our armor - vehicular and personal - by adding a few layers of graphene, with negligible increase in weight. It's the Holy Grail of armor protection!
Cool video but what about the marines flaks? Especially Korea to Vietnam
sweet post thank you,
Some one should do "Cooking with m1 helmet"
Ackshually there were bulletproof armors, but those were extremely heavy and extremely expensive, compared to normal armor, which in itself was already extremely expensive.
Edit, I'm talking about the end of medieval / start of Renaissance period of course.
Just trying to check this out before I get drafted
The ww2 steel pot had swivel bails. I'm pretty sure originals had fixed bails.
Nope. The swivel bale began to show up in early 1943, so swivel bales are still very WWII. Fixed bale was pre-mid war.
sorry! i got it mixed up
Patrick Williams Don't worry about it, happens to the best of us :P
Swivel bales started being seen in late 1944 😂 even then in short quantities. They were not being issued in 1943 at all. Fixed bales were far more widely used throughout the entire war
You missing the part when the marines were using the matv body armor and switched to the plate carrier
Very cool
oh man the one full vest is neat
What he said about Armour was kind of true but Knight armor could deflect bullets, the main reason Armour was no longer used was because troops weren't mobile enough.
Not to mention buff coats.
@@news_internationale2035 yeah, they really helped against swords and were lighter than steel.
the presentation of the 2nd to the last set, to me you made it seem like it was only isseued 1 plate of protection, when of course that wasnt the case, what military only provides one face of protectiob, other then that great video
Brandon x actually sometimes that was the case. During the Gulf war and invasion of Iraq, ground troops weren't logistical prepared. Not everybody had plates and some only had one plate because they were told to hand the other one in. NBC gear was issued in woodland even though they were fighting in the desert.
The poor bastards in the black hawk down situation thought that taking out their backplates was a good idea, it wasn't.
I have an m1 pot from the 80s and is a back swivel bale and the chin strap has an extra strap that loops into the bail and connects to another strap, were these used a lot, or did I find an rare helmet?!
The helmets were introduced in wwi on the western front to stop cods of dirt thrown in the air by explosives falling on soldiers heads and killing them. Aussie and New Zealand soldiers in Vietnam didn’t usually wear body armour and helmets. Too hot and heavy.
Very interesting!;)
What about more modern marine body armor?
2 reasons number 1 they’re expensive as shit number 2 you’re not really supposed to get gear the military is currently using the military will regulate it up the ass because chances are if you can get the gear the enemy can too
7:10 the protector of the future generations of American soldiers 😂
The flak jacket you have for the Viet Nam war is an army issue. We Marines had a different type with plates sewn in and it was horrible to wear. We HAD to wear it. It was heavy and very hot.
USMC issued the ones made for Korea.Making do with old equipment is a Marine heritage.(03 Springfields at Guadalcanal)
@@stang3787 you guys really need a decent budget separate from the navy. As an army scout it's even hard for me to stomach.. kinda pisses me off how they're treated. Some of the best trained in the world sent out with obsolete shit.
@@pickolascage1283 I am a soldier, not a Marine, but I appreciate your comment. Some Marine Generals were extra proud that they kept costs down by using equipment the Army didn't want or believed was obsolete or no longer functional.
@@stang3787 roger, understood. They do get the shitty end of the stick sometimes tho.
The 3 color iba makes me jealous I wanted one of those
The thing are government is doing how do I need to ask for my suit so I feel save going out of my house
do a full uniform of the us army
I have never seen anyone actually wearing the deltoid protects, and the neck protector and groin and back is just a bunch of unneeded stuff that just adds weight and heat, the majority of people don't even have the side plates in
Kevlar 'chocate chip' pattern
8:35 ALMOST 30 FUCKING KILOS WHAT
With my iotv, body armor, I took off the shoulder, crotch, neck and back protection to reduce heat exhaustion
Calvin Otis I can understand you taking off everything you mentioned save for the groin protector, if I was in the military that’d be the one thing I’d leave (for obvious reasons)
nice
Chocolate chip... But when I saw the writing it shows chocate chip... 😀😆😂🤣😭... I sometimes do that on emails or text.
"Prior to WWI, there were no such things as helmets or body armor".
Medieval knights, Samurai, etc: Am I a joke to u?
US
I found that hsi collection was interesteing, but little on information. THe early body armour were nothing but fragmentaion protection. It wasn't till the US SF started using modern body armpour did we see bullet protection. the Clasificatrion of protection from projectils is called "Class" these range from 2, 2a, 3, 3a, in soft armour (WIll stop handguns up to a 35 with the Class 3A" to hard armour "Plates", in classes 4, 5 etc.. the first Issue meldes were the RBA (Ranger Body Armour) that was used by the Ranger Regt, first seen in the famous Battle of Mogadishu, or Black Hawk Down story by Mark Bowden. The Rangers wore woodland camo, class 3A vest with Plates that protected from small arms up til 7.62 (308 Cal) ammunition. The Army started issueng the same Body Armour to units that participated in the War in Bosnia. Also during this time the Maries were being issued a version that had a quick release in case of accidents over water. This was due to several accidents where Maries drowed because of the body armour. Afterwards there was the developement of the IBA Individual Body Army, which was the 3 colour camo pattern vest he had displayed backwards on teh table. No one was issed only one plate. Now if a solider only wore one plaate, then he wasn't a smart soldier. This Body Armour was made famous and used during the Invasion and fighting in Iraq and Afganistan. There were problems due to not every soldier getting issued body armour. But in the end everyone was issued it. Afterwards, the US Army developed the version fo Body Armour that he had on the chair in teh Digital (OCP) camo pattern. This is a complete body armour sytem that was designed to protect a soldier more fully. But only non-combatant or verhicle crews wore it because of it's bulk, size and weight. The US Army has changed camo patterns again to the current Multicam /Scorpion/UCP patterns. the body armour is the same as the previous version which you saw on the chair. Helmets have chaged across the boart, and although the protection that has been added sionce the PASGT Helmet came out in the early 80's and used by unsits liek the 82d Airborne Div. in Grenada. the current issue MICH is a lighter version with trhe same level (Class) of protection. Another differnce in the hard plates are the amouts of impacts they can have. The current issue plates can handle two impacts from small arms fire. The Speical FOrces have used body armour longer and have mosty purchaced it through the open market, this allowing them to have better and lighter armour. Delta Force and the SEALs have been wearing Body Armour for almost 40 years now. or since they were developed. THe US Army SF change often their brands of Body Armour, but i knwo that resently they were still using Crye Pression BA. They have also began using other brands of lighter helmets that allow them to wear communication and hearing protection along with night vision. lights, and strobe lights. The Combat Crews in the USMC have also been using full body protection (Armour) coveralls since IED probelms in Iraq and A-Stan. And we are now seeing panels that can be worn over the legs with MOLLE/PALS webbing that can support drop leg pouches and holsters. Gloves have changed alnog with uniforms. The current combat uniforms are Fire Resistant. And tody a soldier can expect to wear a full fire resistant uniform, from head to toe. The Navel Seals Seal Team 6 used special sheaths for their body armour vest that protected them from water, as water can case a 30% drop in protection, combined with a flotation device. JUst slipped the vest panels inside and wore like a noremal vest. There is much more that can be added, but I though I would through in this little peace of information as I found the gentleman wasn't clear nor complete in his information. To add another point in WW1, the Germans developed armour steel plates to be worn over the torso aliong with face shields. ANd it has been found that the first known body armour was used by Alexander the Great, and it was a composite body armoutr that protected against arrows.
Mike Box actually, no. During Vietnam ceramic ballistic plates that could stop 7.62 were issued to helicopter crews and in small quantities to ground troops.
70 pounds is 5 stone. Looks like muli mariani is still relevant in the infantry.
but it's not only green
Grenada not Grenadem
Prior to WW1,no body armour?
So i guess he has never heard of medieval knights or Samurai from feudal Japan?
Pretty sure he is speaking on the American side, not the Scottish/Irish/Japanese ect
@@JDMilitaria true.Tbh,i was being a bit sarcastic but didn't mean to be a smart ass.
@@ninjamaster7724 oh sorry, I didn't realise my bad
Glad you guys settled your spat calm like
Or buff coats.